November 25, 2025 • 24 mins
Discover brain-based techniques to boost your virtual presentation energy—even when you’re tired. Learn how posture, breath, lighting, and micro-movements improve your on-camera clarity, confidence, and executive presence. Perfect for remote workers, virtual leaders, and online presenters.
In this episode of the Virtual Presentation Skills Podcast, we reveal how to present with clarity, confidence, and energy—even when you’re exhausted. We break down the brain–body connection, explaining why virtual meetings drain your cognitive resources faster and how simple physiological shifts can instantly improve your presence.
What You’ll Learn: • Why virtual work increases brain fatigue (8:05) • How posture, breath, and micro-movements boost vocal power • The “2-Minute Presenter Reset” for fast on-camera energy (18:20) • Lighting and camera adjustments that elevate authority • Articulation tricks that improve clarity and warmth
Whether you're leading virtual meetings, pitching clients, recording video, or presenting online, these quick brain-science tools help you show up focused, energized, and confident—no matter how tired you feel.
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Very fast and simple ways to wake up your cognition, even if you're running on fumes. 3 00:00:19,251.818181818 --> 00:00:21,171.818181818 Hey, fellow humans. 4 00:00:21,231.818181818 --> 00:00:27,381.818181818 Welcome to another episode of the Virtual Presentation Skills podcast. 5 00:00:27,831.818181818 --> 00:00:36,621.818181818 This is the show where we mix professional wisdom, a dash of humor, and a lot of really cool brain science. 6 00:00:36,681.818181818 --> 00:00:41,511.818181818 I'm Kimberly Gilbert, one of your co-hosts, Kathy Gina, your other co-host. 7 00:00:41,886.818181818 --> 00:00:49,776.818181818 Today's topic is the brain body connection, presenting with energy even when you're tired. 8 00:00:50,916.818181818 --> 00:00:58,596.818181818 I don't know about you, but this time of year I think I start becoming more tired because I know what we have coming up. 9 00:00:58,961.818181818 --> 00:01:02,351.818181818 We made it through Halloween, which was fantastic. 10 00:01:02,471.818181818 --> 00:01:04,541.818181818 We celebrate American Halloween. 11 00:01:04,541.818181818 --> 00:01:08,141.818181818 We're in the States and that was really fun. 12 00:01:08,141.818181818 --> 00:01:11,201.818181818 But now we have Thanksgiving and we have. 13 00:01:11,221.818181818 --> 00:01:19,651.818181818 Christmas and we are working hard on Black Friday deals for all of you. 14 00:01:19,951.818181818 --> 00:01:27,991.818181818 We have five days of Black Friday deals and we've never done this before, so I am very excited. 15 00:01:27,991.818181818 --> 00:01:30,631.818181818 But I will tell you, my team is exhausted. 16 00:01:30,661.818181818 --> 00:01:33,151.818181818 Right, Kathy? Absolutely. 17 00:01:33,151.818181818 --> 00:01:39,546.818181818 So I hope that my voice sounds okay today because I am very tired, so we'll see. 18 00:01:40,806.81818182 --> 00:01:45,816.81818182 Well, this podcast is perfect timing because as you heard, Kathy feels tired. 19 00:01:46,146.81818182 --> 00:01:48,126.81818182 I feel a little bit tired. 20 00:01:48,126.81818182 --> 00:02:00,576.81818182 I usually don't get too fatigued because I'm usually so excited about everything we're doing, and this is my passion, and I love to help you in your virtual presentation world. 21 00:02:00,606.81818182 --> 00:02:01,626.81818182 But I'll tell you. 22 00:02:02,26.81818182 --> 00:02:06,196.81818182 Your body is the engine of your virtual presence. 23 00:02:06,196.81818182 --> 00:02:08,326.81818182 So think about that for just a moment. 24 00:02:08,656.81818182 --> 00:02:12,496.81818182 When your engine is tired, your message suffers. 25 00:02:12,826.81818182 --> 00:02:23,676.81818182 Now, Kathy is obviously a co-host on this show, so she's a little bit more prepped with techniques you can use to minimize your tiredness. 26 00:02:23,676.81818182 --> 00:02:29,396.81818182 Like, Kathy, what did you do this morning? My suggestion was Kimberly, I can't do it right this second. 27 00:02:29,396.81818182 --> 00:02:34,196.81818182 So I said, let's go outside, get a great big breath stretch. 28 00:02:34,316.81818182 --> 00:02:37,46.81818182 It's actually really cool and crisp outside. 29 00:02:37,46.81818182 --> 00:02:42,206.81818182 So it felt really, really nice to get that jolt of cold air and wake up. 30 00:02:43,136.81818182 --> 00:02:46,106.81818182 Yes, and we talk about that later in the show as well. 31 00:02:46,106.81818182 --> 00:02:46,196.81818182 Mm-hmm. 32 00:02:46,436.81818182 --> 00:02:49,676.81818182 So walking for about 10 seconds could be more for you. 33 00:02:49,676.81818182 --> 00:02:55,76.81818182 You obviously need to determine for yourself how long you need to step away. 34 00:02:55,931.81818182 --> 00:02:57,971.81818182 This is so important. 35 00:02:58,21.81818182 --> 00:03:12,901.81818182 After coaching 8,500 humans in more than 33 countries over the last 21 years, energy is a killer for your virtual presence if it is' managed properly. 36 00:03:12,901.81818182 --> 00:03:12,991.81818182 Mm-hmm. 37 00:03:13,351.81818182 --> 00:03:15,776.81818182 Because fatigue changes your vocal tone. 38 00:03:16,716.81818182 --> 00:03:18,816.81818182 It collapses your posture. 39 00:03:18,816.81818182 --> 00:03:24,516.81818182 You might start hunching over and not speaking from a strong diaphragm. 40 00:03:24,906.81818182 --> 00:03:29,166.81818182 The fatigue slows your processing power in your brain. 41 00:03:29,646.81818182 --> 00:03:41,976.81818182 And I see this all the time with people who are just exhausted and they think they're putting on a show in the virtual world because people aren't with them in the 3D world. 42 00:03:41,976.81818182 --> 00:03:43,146.81818182 And people think, oh. 43 00:03:43,536.81818182 --> 00:03:52,536.81818182 People will never know that I'm showing up in No Pants Nation or that I'm tired because they won't feel my Yeah, no Pants Nation. 44 00:03:53,436.81818182 --> 00:03:56,856.81818182 It really dampens your emotional warmth as well. 45 00:03:56,856.81818182 --> 00:04:01,446.81818182 And guess what? The 2D world doesn't help with warmth. 46 00:04:01,446.81818182 --> 00:04:05,96.81818182 You're presenting to a screen teeny tiny little screen, and it's. 47 00:04:05,321.81818182 --> 00:04:15,161.81818182 Probably made of metal and plastic, and that doesn't help things warm up for you or for me, or anybody that is listening. 48 00:04:15,161.81818182 --> 00:04:20,741.81818182 We know that to be true, but there's some good news you can present with energy clarity. 49 00:04:20,911.81818182 --> 00:04:27,181.81818182 Confidence, enthusiasm, all of the buzzwords you need to be successful in the virtual world. 50 00:04:27,481.81818182 --> 00:04:35,701.81818182 Even on your most exhausted days, it may be something that is planned and premeditated. 51 00:04:35,731.81818182 --> 00:04:48,1.81818182 The little techniques we'll share with you, but when you understand the brain body connection, it becomes a tool for you to regain your power and regain your confidence. 52 00:04:48,941.81818182 --> 00:05:00,821.81818182 Today, we will talk a little bit about why your brain loses energy faster during virtual work, how your physiology controls your voice tone and executive presence. 53 00:05:01,271.81818182 --> 00:05:07,781.81818182 Very fast and simple ways to wake up your cognition, even if you're running on fumes. 54 00:05:07,991.81818182 --> 00:05:09,641.81818182 So we'll test this with Kathy today. 55 00:05:10,421.81818182 --> 00:05:11,531.81818182 Oh, no, no. 56 00:05:13,581.81818182 --> 00:05:16,101.81818182 See, Kathy never knows what I'm going to do live on the show. 57 00:05:16,101.81818182 --> 00:05:20,511.81818182 That's one fun thing about the show, your posture, breath and micro movements. 58 00:05:20,541.81818182 --> 00:05:28,611.81818182 Micro movements are something we've talked about more and will continue to speak about micro movements as they relate to the 2D world. 59 00:05:28,611.81818182 --> 00:05:35,216.81818182 It's really interesting the control you have in the virtual world that you might not think you do right now. 60 00:05:36,561.81818182 --> 00:05:42,201.81818182 That can instantly lift your presence and how to trick your brain into showtime mode. 61 00:05:42,681.81818182 --> 00:05:43,641.81818182 Let's put on a show. 62 00:05:43,641.81818182 --> 00:05:47,781.81818182 Let's face it, we're always putting on a show even when you feel depleted. 63 00:05:48,201.81818182 --> 00:05:52,396.81818182 I was telling Kathy the other day, I understand clearly now why I. 64 00:05:52,936.81818182 --> 00:05:57,676.81818182 Actors are paid as much as they are movie stars, et cetera. 65 00:05:58,36.81818182 --> 00:06:05,866.81818182 It took me about 10 takes yesterday to just to create one little video that was less than a minute. 66 00:06:06,346.81818182 --> 00:06:10,276.81818182 And I was thinking, oh my goodness, this is absolutely exhausting. 67 00:06:10,306.81818182 --> 00:06:12,226.81818182 Well, that's why I'm not a movie star. 68 00:06:13,336.81818182 --> 00:06:16,516.81818182 I really, that would be a really hard job, in my opinion. 69 00:06:16,936.81818182 --> 00:06:20,896.81818182 So let's get into the science that powers your presence. 70 00:06:21,231.81818182 --> 00:06:24,621.81818182 Why virtual presenting drains your brain faster. 71 00:06:24,921.81818182 --> 00:06:28,371.81818182 Kathy, I know you have some really interesting information to share here. 72 00:06:28,971.81818182 --> 00:06:31,671.81818182 I do, and you know, I am not an expert. 73 00:06:31,701.81818182 --> 00:06:40,131.81818182 We all know that, but I have learned so much from Kimberly during this podcast and even before, because I did go through the virtual office audit. 74 00:06:40,526.81818182 --> 00:06:46,706.81818182 A couple of years ago, so I'm familiar with everything and I've learned just so much more since then. 75 00:06:47,96.81818182 --> 00:06:55,76.81818182 I was looking at a study from Stanford's Virtual Human Interaction Lab, and I found these four interesting little points. 76 00:06:55,586.81818182 --> 00:07:00,536.81818182 Your brain processes faces differently in 2D mm. 77 00:07:00,956.81818182 --> 00:07:04,556.81818182 Your cognitive load increases by up to 30%. 78 00:07:05,621.81818182 --> 00:07:14,201.81818182 Your brain tries to fill in missing social cues and eye contact feels unnatural, but still demands, effort. 79 00:07:14,711.81818182 --> 00:07:22,361.81818182 All of those things are so true and I experience that in pretty much every single virtual meeting that I am in. 80 00:07:22,841.81818182 --> 00:07:29,321.81818182 But if you just put it in simple terms, zoom uses more brain power than a real room. 81 00:07:30,131.81818182 --> 00:07:31,751.81818182 Totally, totally correct. 82 00:07:32,141.81818182 --> 00:07:33,911.81818182 Wouldn't you say? Yes. 83 00:07:33,911.81818182 --> 00:07:45,761.81818182 So that probably, I mean that also obviously relates to MS Teams and WebEx and Scoot and Google and I'm trying to think of all the different I know webinar platforms that are available. 84 00:07:45,761.81818182 --> 00:07:46,901.81818182 There's so many. 85 00:07:47,411.81818182 --> 00:07:55,871.81818182 We primarily use Zoom, but I gotta, I have to confess, my true love is still WebEx because I worked there years ago. 86 00:07:56,51.81818182 --> 00:08:00,41.81818182 So, to your point, Kathy Zoom uses more brain power than a real room. 87 00:08:00,131.81818182 --> 00:08:00,251.81818182 Ah. 88 00:08:00,251.81818182 --> 00:08:00,341.81818182 Mm-hmm. 89 00:08:00,851.81818182 --> 00:08:06,821.81818182 Think about that and think about what is going on in our prefrontal cortex and why it fatigues faster. 90 00:08:07,331.81818182 --> 00:08:14,711.81818182 Because there's more decision making, there's more focus, different things to focus on than we normally would in person. 91 00:08:15,326.81818182 --> 00:08:20,216.81818182 You cannot separate your voice, your posture, your breath, and your energy. 92 00:08:20,516.81818182 --> 00:08:23,816.81818182 They are one single system. 93 00:08:23,846.81818182 --> 00:08:27,626.81818182 No matter if we are in person or we are. 94 00:08:27,926.81818182 --> 00:08:28,736.81818182 Online. 95 00:08:28,766.81818182 --> 00:08:37,196.81818182 That's a little bit about physiology, which I am not an expert on, but I know enough to know that that is absolutely a true statement. 96 00:08:37,196.81818182 --> 00:08:41,36.81818182 You can't separate those different categories. 97 00:08:41,126.81818182 --> 00:08:49,76.81818182 If you are presenting in the virtual world, and you are live on camera now, you might be able to separate your voice. 98 00:08:49,96.81818182 --> 00:08:50,866.81818182 Like we do on this podcast. 99 00:08:50,866.81818182 --> 00:08:55,786.81818182 Our podcast is not a video podcast yet on YouTube, but we're almost there. 100 00:08:56,296.81818182 --> 00:09:00,576.81818182 We are on YouTube at this point in time, just as an audio podcast. 101 00:09:00,846.81818182 --> 00:09:04,116.81818182 So I believe that statement is absolutely true. 102 00:09:04,116.81818182 --> 00:09:06,36.81818182 Decision making focus. 103 00:09:06,96.81818182 --> 00:09:12,196.81818182 Verbal precision inhibition of distractions and emotional regulation. 104 00:09:12,796.81818182 --> 00:09:13,816.81818182 But here's the catch. 105 00:09:14,411.81818182 --> 00:09:22,971.81818182 The PFC tires easily when you are multitasking and you all know I don't believe in multitasking, so we'll call it task switching. 106 00:09:24,71.81818182 --> 00:09:27,131.81818182 Gosh, last week was about work from anywhere. 107 00:09:27,131.81818182 --> 00:09:30,71.81818182 Talk about showing up in an unfamiliar environment and. 108 00:09:30,181.81818182 --> 00:09:40,411.81818182 Still being able to be the top performer on your show or in your meeting because you are performing on camera and you're under pressure. 109 00:09:40,801.81818182 --> 00:09:44,611.81818182 Your brain goes into what researchers call cognitive thinning. 110 00:09:44,971.81818182 --> 00:09:52,21.81818182 This is a newer term for me, but it means you have fewer resources and slower processing. 111 00:09:52,381.81818182 --> 00:09:55,981.81818182 Your posture also changes your brain's chemistry. 112 00:09:56,161.81818182 --> 00:09:58,306.81818182 Kathy, I know you have opinions on posture. 113 00:09:59,471.81818182 --> 00:10:02,291.81818182 Oh, I have an opinion on cognitive thinning. 114 00:10:02,741.81818182 --> 00:10:04,541.81818182 Totally understand that. 115 00:10:04,571.81818182 --> 00:10:11,391.81818182 When I first started doing this with you, we would start recording and then I would go blank. 116 00:10:11,601.81818182 --> 00:10:23,391.81818182 Okay? There is nothing in my brain to talk about right now because I'm not used to being in front of a microphone, only speaking to a screen, and so then I don't know. 117 00:10:23,391.81818182 --> 00:10:24,351.81818182 It's been really weird. 118 00:10:26,76.81818182 --> 00:10:27,156.81818182 The brain goes blank. 119 00:10:27,306.81818182 --> 00:10:27,876.81818182 So anyway. 120 00:10:27,876.81818182 --> 00:10:27,936.81818182 Yeah. 121 00:10:27,936.81818182 --> 00:10:29,346.81818182 You know, I think it's really important. 122 00:10:29,346.81818182 --> 00:10:35,886.81818182 Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that honestly, because our audience needs to hear your perspective. 123 00:10:35,886.81818182 --> 00:10:35,976.81818182 Mm-hmm. 124 00:10:36,216.81818182 --> 00:10:39,756.81818182 Because more of our listeners will relate. 125 00:10:39,816.81818182 --> 00:10:44,286.81818182 To you and your journey because you've been a frustrated virtual presenter. 126 00:10:44,286.81818182 --> 00:10:53,646.81818182 You've been mind boggled by the tech and the difference in the way you conducted business for years. 127 00:10:53,651.81818182 --> 00:10:53,661.81818182 Mm-hmm. 128 00:10:53,746.81818182 --> 00:10:54,216.81818182 And years. 129 00:10:54,216.81818182 --> 00:10:54,996.81818182 And years. 130 00:10:54,996.81818182 --> 00:10:55,6.81818182 Mm-hmm. 131 00:10:55,6.81818182 --> 00:10:59,136.81818182 And I know so many people need help. 132 00:10:59,136.81818182 --> 00:11:05,586.81818182 And like you've said many times, Kathy, if you had had the guidance simply from the virtual office audit mm-hmm. 133 00:11:05,856.81818182 --> 00:11:05,876.81818182 Which is. 134 00:11:06,91.81818182 --> 00:11:10,121.81818182 30 minutes, seven steps, less than a hundred dollars. 135 00:11:10,121.81818182 --> 00:11:14,111.81818182 And guess what? It's even less expensive than that on Black Friday. 136 00:11:14,501.81818182 --> 00:11:16,871.81818182 Virtual office audit.com. 137 00:11:16,871.81818182 --> 00:11:22,961.81818182 Don't miss some of these deals that are coming up because I know you're probably struggling with virtual meetings. 138 00:11:22,961.81818182 --> 00:11:24,401.81818182 You're probably frustrated. 139 00:11:24,401.81818182 --> 00:11:28,841.81818182 You're probably wondering about your confidence on screen, on camera. 140 00:11:28,896.81818182 --> 00:11:29,316.81818182 Mm-hmm. 141 00:11:29,516.81818182 --> 00:11:29,916.81818182 I know because. 142 00:11:30,316.81818182 --> 00:11:33,976.81818182 Thousands of people around the globe have shared those stories with me. 143 00:11:33,976.81818182 --> 00:11:43,416.81818182 So Kathy, the more you can share from a real life experience perspective, the more our listeners are going to appreciate you. 144 00:11:44,346.81818182 --> 00:11:45,786.81818182 Well, exactly. 145 00:11:45,786.81818182 --> 00:11:54,946.81818182 And you know, like we've said before, and like I've experienced too and we all have, in person presenting is just so much more fun. 146 00:11:55,336.81818182 --> 00:11:55,876.81818182 Sorry. 147 00:11:55,936.81818182 --> 00:11:56,746.81818182 It just is. 148 00:11:56,836.81818182 --> 00:11:56,926.81818182 Mm-hmm. 149 00:11:57,256.81818182 --> 00:12:01,456.81818182 And then moving to a virtual platform, it is not the same. 150 00:12:01,456.81818182 --> 00:12:05,301.81818182 And so you really do need to learn and practice the tips from the virtual. 151 00:12:06,86.81818182 --> 00:12:11,576.81818182 Office audit, but let's talk about the posture and how it can change the brain's chemistry. 152 00:12:12,146.81818182 --> 00:12:19,756.81818182 I know when I get tired, my diaphragm compresses, my oxygen intake drops. 153 00:12:20,26.81818182 --> 00:12:24,556.81818182 I don't always realize it at the time, but I do later. 154 00:12:25,76.81818182 --> 00:12:27,806.81818182 And what also happens is the cortisol rises. 155 00:12:28,356.81818182 --> 00:12:37,306.81818182 My voice is also not as strong as it should be, and then I also appear less confident and I feel less confident also. 156 00:12:37,766.81818182 --> 00:12:41,636.81818182 That is why tired people can sound flat. 157 00:12:42,536.81818182 --> 00:12:45,56.81818182 Look flat and feel flat. 158 00:12:45,746.81818182 --> 00:12:52,261.81818182 One of the ways to not be flat is to boost our energy and our vocal power, and we'll get to that. 159 00:12:53,561.81818182 --> 00:12:53,981.81818182 Yes. 160 00:12:53,981.81818182 --> 00:13:01,251.81818182 Well, I'd like to just chime in here about something I learned about posture when I started bodybuilding a couple years ago. 161 00:13:01,731.81818182 --> 00:13:03,111.81818182 Planning to be on stage. 162 00:13:03,111.81818182 --> 00:13:05,661.81818182 Obviously your body needs to be in a certain. 163 00:13:06,156.81818182 --> 00:13:10,236.81818182 Position to show off the muscles you've worked so hard to develop. 164 00:13:10,716.81818182 --> 00:13:18,846.81818182 I am extremely well aware of when I start to slump and I get something called old lady butt. 165 00:13:18,876.81818182 --> 00:13:22,146.81818182 That's what it looks like when I look at my profile in the mirror. 166 00:13:22,596.81818182 --> 00:13:28,236.81818182 Now, maybe we'll just say old person butt, and you don't have to be an old person to have this posture. 167 00:13:28,536.81818182 --> 00:13:34,836.81818182 I can glance over to the side in a full length mirror and right away my brain says, oh. 168 00:13:34,971.81818182 --> 00:13:44,361.81818182 I need to re-post my lower back and I need to pop out my sternum just an inch or two inches, shoulders down. 169 00:13:44,751.81818182 --> 00:13:49,701.81818182 It's not about pushing your chest out, but it's pulling your diaphragm. 170 00:13:49,966.81818182 --> 00:13:50,56.81818182 Mm-hmm. 171 00:13:50,926.81818182 --> 00:13:55,846.81818182 And I tell you, sometimes I am completely freaked out by the way. 172 00:13:55,846.81818182 --> 00:14:01,96.81818182 My posture changes and I don't even realize it until I look in the mirror. 173 00:14:01,396.81818182 --> 00:14:06,316.81818182 Or I can start to feel my voice becoming more flat, like you said, just a moment ago. 174 00:14:07,86.81818182 --> 00:14:09,306.81818182 This is something you can learn as well. 175 00:14:09,336.81818182 --> 00:14:12,66.81818182 These are not techniques I grew up with. 176 00:14:12,66.81818182 --> 00:14:25,146.81818182 I learned them along the way, became certified in a lot of these techniques, and now I know they're very teachable and it doesn't have to be expensive, and it doesn't have to be overly time consuming. 177 00:14:25,536.81818182 --> 00:14:26,886.81818182 So that's the good news. 178 00:14:27,466.81818182 --> 00:14:41,386.81818182 Now, Kathy, I also think you have some really great fast wake up tools that you didn't mention earlier, but you said you were going to, you mentioned taking a walk for 10 seconds in the cool crisp air, which we did, which I think is fantastic. 179 00:14:41,686.81818182 --> 00:14:46,966.81818182 And what else? So Kimberly, yes, I do have extra tips to share. 180 00:14:47,146.81818182 --> 00:14:52,456.81818182 One of the things that I like to do is roll my shoulders up and then roll them back. 181 00:14:53,56.81818182 --> 00:14:55,446.81818182 Drop them down, I'm doing that now. 182 00:14:55,476.81818182 --> 00:14:59,406.81818182 Does it look awkward? I know you can't see me, but I'm awkwardly rolling my shoulders. 183 00:14:59,406.81818182 --> 00:15:04,416.81818182 But you know what? The more of an exaggerated move I do, the more it feels better. 184 00:15:05,116.81818182 --> 00:15:06,826.81818182 Those big, big, big movements. 185 00:15:06,826.81818182 --> 00:15:07,426.81818182 I love that. 186 00:15:07,426.81818182 --> 00:15:07,936.81818182 Thank you. 187 00:15:08,896.81818182 --> 00:15:09,256.81818182 Good. 188 00:15:09,256.81818182 --> 00:15:10,516.81818182 I'm glad that felt good, Kimberly. 189 00:15:10,516.81818182 --> 00:15:11,806.81818182 It feels good to me too. 190 00:15:11,926.81818182 --> 00:15:19,176.81818182 A couple other tips that I can offer are lift your sternum slightly and bring your chin back. 191 00:15:19,416.81818182 --> 00:15:21,696.81818182 Not down, but keep your chin back. 192 00:15:22,206.81818182 --> 00:15:26,766.81818182 Oh, and that also dovetails to the fact that you have to look into your camera. 193 00:15:26,766.81818182 --> 00:15:32,316.81818182 So make sure that your computer is at eye level and that will help you keep your chin up. 194 00:15:32,961.81818182 --> 00:15:33,861.81818182 And not look down. 195 00:15:34,191.81818182 --> 00:15:34,521.81818182 Ha. 196 00:15:34,581.81818182 --> 00:15:38,511.81818182 And guess what? That's step number one in the group virtual office on it. 197 00:15:39,711.81818182 --> 00:15:56,601.81818182 You know what I absolutely love when other people's research supports my own? And remember this started out as Kimberly's conjecture, and then I became certified as a neurolinguistics coach practitioner, and now all of these research houses. 198 00:15:57,391.81818182 --> 00:16:05,611.81818182 Agree, and a lot more people are talking about that camera and the importance of getting it to eye level. 199 00:16:06,31.81818182 --> 00:16:07,321.81818182 So important. 200 00:16:07,321.81818182 --> 00:16:12,61.81818182 I am a huge fan of a ring light in general, and the light. 201 00:16:12,126.54301948 --> 00:16:17,766.54301948 Technique we teach is a couple of different techniques for the ring light. 202 00:16:17,766.54301948 --> 00:16:25,566.54301948 For example, I have a huge studio ring light in my office because I have a very dark office. 203 00:16:25,566.54301948 --> 00:16:30,486.54301948 The ceilings are cedar with open beam, and I need the extra light. 204 00:16:30,576.54301948 --> 00:16:32,76.54301948 But you might not. 205 00:16:32,76.54301948 --> 00:16:32,321.54301948 You might. 206 00:16:32,636.54301948 --> 00:16:40,356.5430195 Need just a tiny little ring light, we have an Amazon affiliate link, and Kathy will add that to the show notes. 207 00:16:40,356.5430195 --> 00:16:45,696.5430195 Just remember, your brain associates brightness with alertness. 208 00:16:45,816.5430195 --> 00:16:54,546.5430195 This is basic circadian biology, and it works if you're not paying attention to the circadian rhythms in your life. 209 00:16:54,786.5430195 --> 00:16:56,466.5430195 Well, that's a whole other episode. 210 00:16:57,626.5430195 --> 00:17:06,746.5430195 And then some of the on camera energy hacks besides the lighting are to anchor your emotion. 211 00:17:06,806.5430195 --> 00:17:11,680.0738421 What did I start off with this morning, Kathy? Kimberly, you started off with gratitude today. 212 00:17:11,794.6155076 --> 00:17:27,564.6155076 Yes, I absolutely did, and I had a great gratitude session this morning and I practice gratitude almost every day because there are so many times when we become boggled down with work and. 213 00:17:28,589.6155076 --> 00:17:40,259.6155076 Interesting colleagues and hard, hard projects we're working on, and it can really bring you down and bring down your tone and your energy. 214 00:17:40,499.6155076 --> 00:17:43,19.6155076 So I like to start with gratitude. 215 00:17:43,319.6155076 --> 00:17:48,664.6155076 I typically begin our team meetings by asking everybody to share something good news about. 216 00:17:48,949.6155076 --> 00:17:50,419.6155076 Business if they want to. 217 00:17:50,839.6155076 --> 00:17:52,819.6155076 If they want to share personal good news. 218 00:17:52,819.6155076 --> 00:17:54,469.6155076 I think that's great as well. 219 00:17:54,859.6155076 --> 00:18:05,259.2584735 You can also connect to your natural sense of curiosity, empathy, and of course, one of our favorites, which is what, Kathy, kimberly, of course it's humor. 220 00:18:06,326.4285463 --> 00:18:06,716.4285463 Yes. 221 00:18:06,766.4285463 --> 00:18:12,69.7089996 How about let's give a two minute routine for going from tired to ready. 222 00:18:12,429.7089996 --> 00:18:20,529.7089996 Now I have heard from a lot of you, you like sections that you can bookmark and easily reference, so I am going to roll through these. 223 00:18:20,529.7089996 --> 00:18:24,399.7089996 This is the two minute presenter reset. 224 00:18:24,819.7089996 --> 00:18:28,869.7089996 We've shared some of these already, but I'm just gonna give these to you in a list. 225 00:18:29,529.7089996 --> 00:18:30,939.7089996 10 steps. 226 00:18:31,59.7089996 --> 00:18:33,579.7089996 Take 10 steps in 10 seconds. 227 00:18:33,909.7089996 --> 00:18:35,679.7089996 Your shoulder reset. 228 00:18:36,159.7089996 --> 00:18:39,9.7089996 Cycle your breath four to six times. 229 00:18:39,9.7089996 --> 00:18:40,179.7089996 Breathe in four. 230 00:18:40,179.7089996 --> 00:18:42,639.7089996 Hold for four, breathe out six. 231 00:18:43,89.7089996 --> 00:18:48,879.7089996 Lift your posture and realign that camera if it's not right in the middle of your forehead. 232 00:18:49,239.7089996 --> 00:18:52,629.7089996 At eye level speak one high energy sentence. 233 00:18:52,897.6835038 --> 00:18:56,437.6835038 Smile intentionally for five seconds, even if it kills you. 234 00:18:56,437.6835038 --> 00:18:59,107.6835038 People Put a smile on your face. 235 00:18:59,137.6835038 --> 00:19:04,597.6835038 It will change your own attitude and begin with warmth if it's possible. 236 00:19:04,597.6835038 --> 00:19:12,142.6835038 I know we have some team meetings that it's not always possible to start that way, but if you can try to begin the meeting. 237 00:19:12,432.6835038 --> 00:19:14,292.6835038 Some type of warmth. 238 00:19:14,832.6835038 --> 00:19:18,972.6835038 Now, I'll just go back to number five, which was the high energy sentence. 239 00:19:18,972.6835038 --> 00:19:25,152.6835038 This is a technique I've used for years in teaching, especially non-native English speakers. 240 00:19:25,152.6835038 --> 00:19:27,312.6835038 How to speak better in American English. 241 00:19:27,702.6835038 --> 00:19:37,662.6835038 If you speak a sentence with your mouth wide open, which will probably make your coworkers giggle, it activates the articulation muscles in your face. 242 00:19:37,882.6835038 --> 00:19:45,997.6835038 If you're a person who says, I have a really thick tongue today, it's just because your articulation muscles are not properly activated. 243 00:19:46,377.6835038 --> 00:19:51,952.6835038 So I'll give you an example, and this is probably going to be super annoying, but I'm going to do it live and then I'll have Kathy do it as well. 244 00:19:52,222.6835038 --> 00:19:53,422.6835038 I'm going to say. 245 00:19:53,699.1140987 --> 00:19:57,569.1140987 My name is Kimberly Gilbert, and I'm your presenter today. 246 00:19:57,599.1140987 --> 00:19:59,969.1140987 Now I'm gonna do it with my mouth wide open. 247 00:20:00,155.6126823 --> 00:20:06,455.6126823 My name is Kimberly Gilbert, and I am your presenter today. 248 00:20:06,761.9752885 --> 00:20:10,811.9752885 Now, what I just did, if I feel like I have a thick tongue, go ahead, Kathy. 249 00:20:10,941.5900194 --> 00:20:12,586.5900194 I, I'm just laughing and silent. 250 00:20:12,586.5900194 --> 00:20:13,581.5900194 That's all I'm not gonna do. 251 00:20:14,1.5900194 --> 00:20:15,141.5900194 No, I'm not gonna do. 252 00:20:15,141.5900194 --> 00:20:15,421.5900194 Come on. 253 00:20:15,426.5900194 --> 00:20:15,946.5900194 Bust it out. 254 00:20:15,946.5900194 --> 00:20:17,386.5900194 Bust a move for audience. 255 00:20:17,506.5900194 --> 00:20:18,46.5900194 Seriously. 256 00:20:18,106.5900194 --> 00:20:18,616.5900194 Oh my goodness. 257 00:20:18,616.5900194 --> 00:20:19,606.5900194 This is so much fun. 258 00:20:19,606.5900194 --> 00:20:21,856.5900194 And it is so funny to do this in person. 259 00:20:22,96.5900194 --> 00:20:26,896.5900194 So, Kathy, say, my name is Kathy Gina, and I'll be your presenter today. 260 00:20:26,896.5900194 --> 00:20:37,216.5900194 Just say it in a regular tone and then open your mouth as wide as you can get it, like all the flies in the world are going to buzz into your mouth, and then we'll talk about the difference afterwards. 261 00:20:37,276.5900194 --> 00:20:37,666.5900194 Go ahead. 262 00:20:38,326.5900194 --> 00:20:41,296.5900194 First of all, people, this is a very awkward thing to do. 263 00:20:41,566.5900194 --> 00:20:45,196.5900194 She has asked me to do this before, and I'm not saying it doesn't work. 264 00:20:45,196.5900194 --> 00:20:46,786.5900194 It's just kind of strange. 265 00:20:46,786.5900194 --> 00:20:51,766.5900194 So my name is Kathy Gina, and I am your co-host today. 266 00:20:52,276.5900194 --> 00:21:02,56.5900194 I am Kathy, Gina Am and I am your co-host today. 267 00:21:02,626.5900194 --> 00:21:03,886.5900194 And there you go. 268 00:21:04,96.5900194 --> 00:21:07,606.5900194 Now, do you feel anything different in your face? Just be honest. 269 00:21:07,606.5900194 --> 00:21:14,176.5900194 Do you feel a little warmth tingling, maybe? Like your facial muscles are a little bit looser? They've been stretched. 270 00:21:14,176.5900194 --> 00:21:15,526.5900194 My mouth has been stretched. 271 00:21:15,937.3917191 --> 00:21:26,587.3917191 So you might be able to use this technique to very quickly warm up your articulation muscles in your face. 272 00:21:27,7.3917191 --> 00:21:30,997.3917191 I work with a lot of presenters who are very, very nervous. 273 00:21:31,27.3917191 --> 00:21:38,467.3917191 Oftentimes much more nervous in the virtual world than they ever would be on stage, which is a little bit mind blowing. 274 00:21:38,867.3917191 --> 00:21:41,477.3917191 Has happened thousands of times over the years. 275 00:21:41,807.3917191 --> 00:21:43,127.3917191 This is one of those little tricks. 276 00:21:43,127.3917191 --> 00:21:47,327.3917191 Obviously, we don't share this live to the audience unless I'm in trainer mode. 277 00:21:47,387.3917191 --> 00:21:47,477.3917191 Mm-hmm. 278 00:21:47,717.3917191 --> 00:21:51,677.3917191 And I'm helping you learn to become more confident and become more articulate. 279 00:21:51,677.3917191 --> 00:21:57,47.3917191 When you speak, you can be considered a speaker who is not very articulate. 280 00:21:57,732.3917191 --> 00:22:02,292.3917191 Open up and warm up the articulation muscles. 281 00:22:02,292.3917191 --> 00:22:07,452.3917191 You form a little bit of muscle memory, especially if you struggle with a word. 282 00:22:07,452.3917191 --> 00:22:16,362.3917191 I have a lot of non-native English speakers that struggle with LS or Rs, and we work on those articulation muscles and it works. 283 00:22:16,392.3917191 --> 00:22:17,172.3917191 It works. 284 00:22:17,262.3917191 --> 00:22:24,102.3917191 Like how said it might be slightly weird and slightly awkward, but you know, there's just another one of Kimberly's training tools. 285 00:22:25,32.3917191 --> 00:22:27,942.3917191 Hey, you know, whatever works is what you need to use. 286 00:22:27,942.3917191 --> 00:22:30,477.3917191 And I have often said that I have a thick tongue. 287 00:22:30,577.3917191 --> 00:22:34,557.3917191 It's always, I have a hard time with my S'S and I forget this. 288 00:22:34,942.3917191 --> 00:22:46,462.3917191 Technique, and so I have to remember to do this before we record each time, right? A lot of people will say thick tongue, but it isn't necessarily your thick tongue. 289 00:22:46,462.3917191 --> 00:22:49,432.3917191 It's really the articulation muscles that are helping you. 290 00:22:49,732.3917191 --> 00:22:50,302.3917191 Speak. 291 00:22:50,692.3917191 --> 00:22:50,782.3917191 Mm-hmm. 292 00:22:51,22.3917191 --> 00:23:00,22.3917191 So maybe that gives you and our listeners a little bit of new insight as we move forward with the next group. 293 00:23:00,22.3917191 --> 00:23:03,532.3917191 Virtual office audit, virtual office audit.com. 294 00:23:03,532.3917191 --> 00:23:05,392.3917191 30 minutes, seven steps. 295 00:23:05,392.3917191 --> 00:23:08,212.3917191 And you are not going to believe how. 296 00:23:08,572.3917191 --> 00:23:20,902.3917191 Expensive it is for you to start the learning journey toward successful virtual meetings becoming a successful virtual leader or virtual producer. 297 00:23:20,902.3917191 --> 00:23:24,802.3917191 This virtual office audit helps you hands down. 298 00:23:24,832.3917191 --> 00:23:29,537.3917191 We've heard it thousands of times now, and we would love to see you online. 299 00:23:30,277.3917191 --> 00:23:38,897.3917191 Kathy, does this feel like a wrap to you Kimberly, I think we are close to a wrap, but I just want to say one more thing I read something and I need to share it. 300 00:23:39,227.3917191 --> 00:23:42,437.3917191 So back to the lighting and our frame. 301 00:23:43,257.3917191 --> 00:23:51,777.3917191 Your face has to be the brightest thing in the frame, and the reason is because our brains prioritize bright objects. 302 00:23:51,777.3917191 --> 00:23:52,467.3917191 Mm-hmm. 303 00:23:53,7.3917191 --> 00:23:54,387.3917191 I forget those details. 304 00:23:54,627.3917191 --> 00:23:59,457.3917191 So if we have a bright face, it equals perceived energy. 305 00:23:59,727.3917191 --> 00:24:01,122.3917191 But if our face is dim. 306 00:24:02,407.3917191 --> 00:24:04,597.3917191 Our audience perceives fatigue. 307 00:24:04,807.3917191 --> 00:24:06,337.3917191 I think that's so powerful. 308 00:24:06,577.3917191 --> 00:24:07,477.3917191 Oh, it is. 309 00:24:07,507.3917191 --> 00:24:09,7.3917191 I completely agree with you. 310 00:24:09,127.3917191 --> 00:24:09,607.3917191 Yes. 311 00:24:09,607.3917191 --> 00:24:12,847.3917191 We strive to achieve the halo effect. 312 00:24:12,997.3917191 --> 00:24:13,87.3917191 Mm-hmm. 313 00:24:13,387.3917191 --> 00:24:21,347.3917191 For you as the presenter in any of your virtual engagements, whatever that might look like for you, Kathy. 314 00:24:21,797.3917191 --> 00:24:24,377.3917191 Does this feel like a wrap now? It's a wrap. 315 00:24:24,573.6296795 --> 00:24:24,843.6296795 Okay. 316 00:24:24,843.6296795 --> 00:24:25,263.6296795 It's good. 317 00:24:25,323.6296795 --> 00:24:39,603.6296795 Well, it's great to pack in any last minute details that pertain to the episode because there's so much we want to share with you and we are so excited and so passionate about this space and what we have coming up. 318 00:24:40,263.6296795 --> 00:24:42,723.6296795 I feel like this is a wrap as well. 319 00:24:43,315.4478613 --> 00:24:48,745.4478613 We look forward to meeting you in the next episode where we go live from the waist up.
Very fast and simple ways to wake up your cognition, even if you're running on fumes. 3 00:00:19,251.818181818 --> 00:00:21,171.818181818 Hey, fellow humans. 4 00:00:21,231.818181818 --> 00:00:27,381.818181818 Welcome to another episode of the Virtual Presentation Skills podcast. 5 00:00:27,831.818181818 --> 00:00:36,621.818181818 This is the show where we mix professional wisdom, a dash of humor, and a lot of really cool brain science. 6 00:00:36,681.818181818 --> 00:00:41,511.818181818 I'm Kimberly Gilbert, one of your co-hosts, Kathy Gina, your other co-host. 7 00:00:41,886.818181818 --> 00:00:49,776.818181818 Today's topic is the brain body connection, presenting with energy even when you're tired. 8 00:00:50,916.818181818 --> 00:00:58,596.818181818 I don't know about you, but this time of year I think I start becoming more tired because I know what we have coming up. 9 00:00:58,961.818181818 --> 00:01:02,351.818181818 We made it through Halloween, which was fantastic. 10 00:01:02,471.818181818 --> 00:01:04,541.818181818 We celebrate American Halloween. 11 00:01:04,541.818181818 --> 00:01:08,141.818181818 We're in the States and that was really fun. 12 00:01:08,141.818181818 --> 00:01:11,201.818181818 But now we have Thanksgiving and we have. 13 00:01:11,221.818181818 --> 00:01:19,651.818181818 Christmas and we are working hard on Black Friday deals for all of you. 14 00:01:19,951.818181818 --> 00:01:27,991.818181818 We have five days of Black Friday deals and we've never done this before, so I am very excited. 15 00:01:27,991.818181818 --> 00:01:30,631.818181818 But I will tell you, my team is exhausted. 16 00:01:30,661.818181818 --> 00:01:33,151.818181818 Right, Kathy? Absolutely. 17 00:01:33,151.818181818 --> 00:01:39,546.818181818 So I hope that my voice sounds okay today because I am very tired, so we'll see. 18 00:01:40,806.81818182 --> 00:01:45,816.81818182 Well, this podcast is perfect timing because as you heard, Kathy feels tired. 19 00:01:46,146.81818182 --> 00:01:48,126.81818182 I feel a little bit tired. 20 00:01:48,126.81818182 --> 00:02:00,576.81818182 I usually don't get too fatigued because I'm usually so excited about everything we're doing, and this is my passion, and I love to help you in your virtual presentation world. 21 00:02:00,606.81818182 --> 00:02:01,626.81818182 But I'll tell you. 22 00:02:02,26.81818182 --> 00:02:06,196.81818182 Your body is the engine of your virtual presence. 23 00:02:06,196.81818182 --> 00:02:08,326.81818182 So think about that for just a moment. 24 00:02:08,656.81818182 --> 00:02:12,496.81818182 When your engine is tired, your message suffers. 25 00:02:12,826.81818182 --> 00:02:23,676.81818182 Now, Kathy is obviously a co-host on this show, so she's a little bit more prepped with techniques you can use to minimize your tiredness. 26 00:02:23,676.81818182 --> 00:02:29,396.81818182 Like, Kathy, what did you do this morning? My suggestion was Kimberly, I can't do it right this second. 27 00:02:29,396.81818182 --> 00:02:34,196.81818182 So I said, let's go outside, get a great big breath stretch. 28 00:02:34,316.81818182 --> 00:02:37,46.81818182 It's actually really cool and crisp outside. 29 00:02:37,46.81818182 --> 00:02:42,206.81818182 So it felt really, really nice to get that jolt of cold air and wake up. 30 00:02:43,136.81818182 --> 00:02:46,106.81818182 Yes, and we talk about that later in the show as well. 31 00:02:46,106.81818182 --> 00:02:46,196.81818182 Mm-hmm. 32 00:02:46,436.81818182 --> 00:02:49,676.81818182 So walking for about 10 seconds could be more for you. 33 00:02:49,676.81818182 --> 00:02:55,76.81818182 You obviously need to determine for yourself how long you need to step away. 34 00:02:55,931.81818182 --> 00:02:57,971.81818182 This is so important. 35 00:02:58,21.81818182 --> 00:03:12,901.81818182 After coaching 8,500 humans in more than 33 countries over the last 21 years, energy is a killer for your virtual presence if it is' managed properly. 36 00:03:12,901.81818182 --> 00:03:12,991.81818182 Mm-hmm. 37 00:03:13,351.81818182 --> 00:03:15,776.81818182 Because fatigue changes your vocal tone. 38 00:03:16,716.81818182 --> 00:03:18,816.81818182 It collapses your posture. 39 00:03:18,816.81818182 --> 00:03:24,516.81818182 You might start hunching over and not speaking from a strong diaphragm. 40 00:03:24,906.81818182 --> 00:03:29,166.81818182 The fatigue slows your processing power in your brain. 41 00:03:29,646.81818182 --> 00:03:41,976.81818182 And I see this all the time with people who are just exhausted and they think they're putting on a show in the virtual world because people aren't with them in the 3D world. 42 00:03:41,976.81818182 --> 00:03:43,146.81818182 And people think, oh. 43 00:03:43,536.81818182 --> 00:03:52,536.81818182 People will never know that I'm showing up in No Pants Nation or that I'm tired because they won't feel my Yeah, no Pants Nation. 44 00:03:53,436.81818182 --> 00:03:56,856.81818182 It really dampens your emotional warmth as well. 45 00:03:56,856.81818182 --> 00:04:01,446.81818182 And guess what? The 2D world doesn't help with warmth. 46 00:04:01,446.81818182 --> 00:04:05,96.81818182 You're presenting to a screen teeny tiny little screen, and it's. 47 00:04:05,321.81818182 --> 00:04:15,161.81818182 Probably made of metal and plastic, and that doesn't help things warm up for you or for me, or anybody that is listening. 48 00:04:15,161.81818182 --> 00:04:20,741.81818182 We know that to be true, but there's some good news you can present with energy clarity. 49 00:04:20,911.81818182 --> 00:04:27,181.81818182 Confidence, enthusiasm, all of the buzzwords you need to be successful in the virtual world. 50 00:04:27,481.81818182 --> 00:04:35,701.81818182 Even on your most exhausted days, it may be something that is planned and premeditated. 51 00:04:35,731.81818182 --> 00:04:48,1.81818182 The little techniques we'll share with you, but when you understand the brain body connection, it becomes a tool for you to regain your power and regain your confidence. 52 00:04:48,941.81818182 --> 00:05:00,821.81818182 Today, we will talk a little bit about why your brain loses energy faster during virtual work, how your physiology controls your voice tone and executive presence. 53 00:05:01,271.81818182 --> 00:05:07,781.81818182 Very fast and simple ways to wake up your cognition, even if you're running on fumes. 54 00:05:07,991.81818182 --> 00:05:09,641.81818182 So we'll test this with Kathy today. 55 00:05:10,421.81818182 --> 00:05:11,531.81818182 Oh, no, no. 56 00:05:13,581.81818182 --> 00:05:16,101.81818182 See, Kathy never knows what I'm going to do live on the show. 57 00:05:16,101.81818182 --> 00:05:20,511.81818182 That's one fun thing about the show, your posture, breath and micro movements. 58 00:05:20,541.81818182 --> 00:05:28,611.81818182 Micro movements are something we've talked about more and will continue to speak about micro movements as they relate to the 2D world. 59 00:05:28,611.81818182 --> 00:05:35,216.81818182 It's really interesting the control you have in the virtual world that you might not think you do right now. 60 00:05:36,561.81818182 --> 00:05:42,201.81818182 That can instantly lift your presence and how to trick your brain into showtime mode. 61 00:05:42,681.81818182 --> 00:05:43,641.81818182 Let's put on a show. 62 00:05:43,641.81818182 --> 00:05:47,781.81818182 Let's face it, we're always putting on a show even when you feel depleted. 63 00:05:48,201.81818182 --> 00:05:52,396.81818182 I was telling Kathy the other day, I understand clearly now why I. 64 00:05:52,936.81818182 --> 00:05:57,676.81818182 Actors are paid as much as they are movie stars, et cetera. 65 00:05:58,36.81818182 --> 00:06:05,866.81818182 It took me about 10 takes yesterday to just to create one little video that was less than a minute. 66 00:06:06,346.81818182 --> 00:06:10,276.81818182 And I was thinking, oh my goodness, this is absolutely exhausting. 67 00:06:10,306.81818182 --> 00:06:12,226.81818182 Well, that's why I'm not a movie star. 68 00:06:13,336.81818182 --> 00:06:16,516.81818182 I really, that would be a really hard job, in my opinion. 69 00:06:16,936.81818182 --> 00:06:20,896.81818182 So let's get into the science that powers your presence. 70 00:06:21,231.81818182 --> 00:06:24,621.81818182 Why virtual presenting drains your brain faster. 71 00:06:24,921.81818182 --> 00:06:28,371.81818182 Kathy, I know you have some really interesting information to share here. 72 00:06:28,971.81818182 --> 00:06:31,671.81818182 I do, and you know, I am not an expert. 73 00:06:31,701.81818182 --> 00:06:40,131.81818182 We all know that, but I have learned so much from Kimberly during this podcast and even before, because I did go through the virtual office audit. 74 00:06:40,526.81818182 --> 00:06:46,706.81818182 A couple of years ago, so I'm familiar with everything and I've learned just so much more since then. 75 00:06:47,96.81818182 --> 00:06:55,76.81818182 I was looking at a study from Stanford's Virtual Human Interaction Lab, and I found these four interesting little points. 76 00:06:55,586.81818182 --> 00:07:00,536.81818182 Your brain processes faces differently in 2D mm. 77 00:07:00,956.81818182 --> 00:07:04,556.81818182 Your cognitive load increases by up to 30%. 78 00:07:05,621.81818182 --> 00:07:14,201.81818182 Your brain tries to fill in missing social cues and eye contact feels unnatural, but still demands, effort. 79 00:07:14,711.81818182 --> 00:07:22,361.81818182 All of those things are so true and I experience that in pretty much every single virtual meeting that I am in. 80 00:07:22,841.81818182 --> 00:07:29,321.81818182 But if you just put it in simple terms, zoom uses more brain power than a real room. 81 00:07:30,131.81818182 --> 00:07:31,751.81818182 Totally, totally correct. 82 00:07:32,141.81818182 --> 00:07:33,911.81818182 Wouldn't you say? Yes. 83 00:07:33,911.81818182 --> 00:07:45,761.81818182 So that probably, I mean that also obviously relates to MS Teams and WebEx and Scoot and Google and I'm trying to think of all the different I know webinar platforms that are available. 84 00:07:45,761.81818182 --> 00:07:46,901.81818182 There's so many. 85 00:07:47,411.81818182 --> 00:07:55,871.81818182 We primarily use Zoom, but I gotta, I have to confess, my true love is still WebEx because I worked there years ago. 86 00:07:56,51.81818182 --> 00:08:00,41.81818182 So, to your point, Kathy Zoom uses more brain power than a real room. 87 00:08:00,131.81818182 --> 00:08:00,251.81818182 Ah. 88 00:08:00,251.81818182 --> 00:08:00,341.81818182 Mm-hmm. 89 00:08:00,851.81818182 --> 00:08:06,821.81818182 Think about that and think about what is going on in our prefrontal cortex and why it fatigues faster. 90 00:08:07,331.81818182 --> 00:08:14,711.81818182 Because there's more decision making, there's more focus, different things to focus on than we normally would in person. 91 00:08:15,326.81818182 --> 00:08:20,216.81818182 You cannot separate your voice, your posture, your breath, and your energy. 92 00:08:20,516.81818182 --> 00:08:23,816.81818182 They are one single system. 93 00:08:23,846.81818182 --> 00:08:27,626.81818182 No matter if we are in person or we are. 94 00:08:27,926.81818182 --> 00:08:28,736.81818182 Online. 95 00:08:28,766.81818182 --> 00:08:37,196.81818182 That's a little bit about physiology, which I am not an expert on, but I know enough to know that that is absolutely a true statement. 96 00:08:37,196.81818182 --> 00:08:41,36.81818182 You can't separate those different categories. 97 00:08:41,126.81818182 --> 00:08:49,76.81818182 If you are presenting in the virtual world, and you are live on camera now, you might be able to separate your voice. 98 00:08:49,96.81818182 --> 00:08:50,866.81818182 Like we do on this podcast. 99 00:08:50,866.81818182 --> 00:08:55,786.81818182 Our podcast is not a video podcast yet on YouTube, but we're almost there. 100 00:08:56,296.81818182 --> 00:09:00,576.81818182 We are on YouTube at this point in time, just as an audio podcast. 101 00:09:00,846.81818182 --> 00:09:04,116.81818182 So I believe that statement is absolutely true. 102 00:09:04,116.81818182 --> 00:09:06,36.81818182 Decision making focus. 103 00:09:06,96.81818182 --> 00:09:12,196.81818182 Verbal precision inhibition of distractions and emotional regulation. 104 00:09:12,796.81818182 --> 00:09:13,816.81818182 But here's the catch. 105 00:09:14,411.81818182 --> 00:09:22,971.81818182 The PFC tires easily when you are multitasking and you all know I don't believe in multitasking, so we'll call it task switching. 106 00:09:24,71.81818182 --> 00:09:27,131.81818182 Gosh, last week was about work from anywhere. 107 00:09:27,131.81818182 --> 00:09:30,71.81818182 Talk about showing up in an unfamiliar environment and. 108 00:09:30,181.81818182 --> 00:09:40,411.81818182 Still being able to be the top performer on your show or in your meeting because you are performing on camera and you're under pressure. 109 00:09:40,801.81818182 --> 00:09:44,611.81818182 Your brain goes into what researchers call cognitive thinning. 110 00:09:44,971.81818182 --> 00:09:52,21.81818182 This is a newer term for me, but it means you have fewer resources and slower processing. 111 00:09:52,381.81818182 --> 00:09:55,981.81818182 Your posture also changes your brain's chemistry. 112 00:09:56,161.81818182 --> 00:09:58,306.81818182 Kathy, I know you have opinions on posture. 113 00:09:59,471.81818182 --> 00:10:02,291.81818182 Oh, I have an opinion on cognitive thinning. 114 00:10:02,741.81818182 --> 00:10:04,541.81818182 Totally understand that. 115 00:10:04,571.81818182 --> 00:10:11,391.81818182 When I first started doing this with you, we would start recording and then I would go blank. 116 00:10:11,601.81818182 --> 00:10:23,391.81818182 Okay? There is nothing in my brain to talk about right now because I'm not used to being in front of a microphone, only speaking to a screen, and so then I don't know. 117 00:10:23,391.81818182 --> 00:10:24,351.81818182 It's been really weird. 118 00:10:26,76.81818182 --> 00:10:27,156.81818182 The brain goes blank. 119 00:10:27,306.81818182 --> 00:10:27,876.81818182 So anyway. 120 00:10:27,876.81818182 --> 00:10:27,936.81818182 Yeah. 121 00:10:27,936.81818182 --> 00:10:29,346.81818182 You know, I think it's really important. 122 00:10:29,346.81818182 --> 00:10:35,886.81818182 Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that honestly, because our audience needs to hear your perspective. 123 00:10:35,886.81818182 --> 00:10:35,976.81818182 Mm-hmm. 124 00:10:36,216.81818182 --> 00:10:39,756.81818182 Because more of our listeners will relate. 125 00:10:39,816.81818182 --> 00:10:44,286.81818182 To you and your journey because you've been a frustrated virtual presenter. 126 00:10:44,286.81818182 --> 00:10:53,646.81818182 You've been mind boggled by the tech and the difference in the way you conducted business for years. 127 00:10:53,651.81818182 --> 00:10:53,661.81818182 Mm-hmm. 128 00:10:53,746.81818182 --> 00:10:54,216.81818182 And years. 129 00:10:54,216.81818182 --> 00:10:54,996.81818182 And years. 130 00:10:54,996.81818182 --> 00:10:55,6.81818182 Mm-hmm. 131 00:10:55,6.81818182 --> 00:10:59,136.81818182 And I know so many people need help. 132 00:10:59,136.81818182 --> 00:11:05,586.81818182 And like you've said many times, Kathy, if you had had the guidance simply from the virtual office audit mm-hmm. 133 00:11:05,856.81818182 --> 00:11:05,876.81818182 Which is. 134 00:11:06,91.81818182 --> 00:11:10,121.81818182 30 minutes, seven steps, less than a hundred dollars. 135 00:11:10,121.81818182 --> 00:11:14,111.81818182 And guess what? It's even less expensive than that on Black Friday. 136 00:11:14,501.81818182 --> 00:11:16,871.81818182 Virtual office audit.com. 137 00:11:16,871.81818182 --> 00:11:22,961.81818182 Don't miss some of these deals that are coming up because I know you're probably struggling with virtual meetings. 138 00:11:22,961.81818182 --> 00:11:24,401.81818182 You're probably frustrated. 139 00:11:24,401.81818182 --> 00:11:28,841.81818182 You're probably wondering about your confidence on screen, on camera. 140 00:11:28,896.81818182 --> 00:11:29,316.81818182 Mm-hmm. 141 00:11:29,516.81818182 --> 00:11:29,916.81818182 I know because. 142 00:11:30,316.81818182 --> 00:11:33,976.81818182 Thousands of people around the globe have shared those stories with me. 143 00:11:33,976.81818182 --> 00:11:43,416.81818182 So Kathy, the more you can share from a real life experience perspective, the more our listeners are going to appreciate you. 144 00:11:44,346.81818182 --> 00:11:45,786.81818182 Well, exactly. 145 00:11:45,786.81818182 --> 00:11:54,946.81818182 And you know, like we've said before, and like I've experienced too and we all have, in person presenting is just so much more fun. 146 00:11:55,336.81818182 --> 00:11:55,876.81818182 Sorry. 147 00:11:55,936.81818182 --> 00:11:56,746.81818182 It just is. 148 00:11:56,836.81818182 --> 00:11:56,926.81818182 Mm-hmm. 149 00:11:57,256.81818182 --> 00:12:01,456.81818182 And then moving to a virtual platform, it is not the same. 150 00:12:01,456.81818182 --> 00:12:05,301.81818182 And so you really do need to learn and practice the tips from the virtual. 151 00:12:06,86.81818182 --> 00:12:11,576.81818182 Office audit, but let's talk about the posture and how it can change the brain's chemistry. 152 00:12:12,146.81818182 --> 00:12:19,756.81818182 I know when I get tired, my diaphragm compresses, my oxygen intake drops. 153 00:12:20,26.81818182 --> 00:12:24,556.81818182 I don't always realize it at the time, but I do later. 154 00:12:25,76.81818182 --> 00:12:27,806.81818182 And what also happens is the cortisol rises. 155 00:12:28,356.81818182 --> 00:12:37,306.81818182 My voice is also not as strong as it should be, and then I also appear less confident and I feel less confident also. 156 00:12:37,766.81818182 --> 00:12:41,636.81818182 That is why tired people can sound flat. 157 00:12:42,536.81818182 --> 00:12:45,56.81818182 Look flat and feel flat. 158 00:12:45,746.81818182 --> 00:12:52,261.81818182 One of the ways to not be flat is to boost our energy and our vocal power, and we'll get to that. 159 00:12:53,561.81818182 --> 00:12:53,981.81818182 Yes. 160 00:12:53,981.81818182 --> 00:13:01,251.81818182 Well, I'd like to just chime in here about something I learned about posture when I started bodybuilding a couple years ago. 161 00:13:01,731.81818182 --> 00:13:03,111.81818182 Planning to be on stage. 162 00:13:03,111.81818182 --> 00:13:05,661.81818182 Obviously your body needs to be in a certain. 163 00:13:06,156.81818182 --> 00:13:10,236.81818182 Position to show off the muscles you've worked so hard to develop. 164 00:13:10,716.81818182 --> 00:13:18,846.81818182 I am extremely well aware of when I start to slump and I get something called old lady butt. 165 00:13:18,876.81818182 --> 00:13:22,146.81818182 That's what it looks like when I look at my profile in the mirror. 166 00:13:22,596.81818182 --> 00:13:28,236.81818182 Now, maybe we'll just say old person butt, and you don't have to be an old person to have this posture. 167 00:13:28,536.81818182 --> 00:13:34,836.81818182 I can glance over to the side in a full length mirror and right away my brain says, oh. 168 00:13:34,971.81818182 --> 00:13:44,361.81818182 I need to re-post my lower back and I need to pop out my sternum just an inch or two inches, shoulders down. 169 00:13:44,751.81818182 --> 00:13:49,701.81818182 It's not about pushing your chest out, but it's pulling your diaphragm. 170 00:13:49,966.81818182 --> 00:13:50,56.81818182 Mm-hmm. 171 00:13:50,926.81818182 --> 00:13:55,846.81818182 And I tell you, sometimes I am completely freaked out by the way. 172 00:13:55,846.81818182 --> 00:14:01,96.81818182 My posture changes and I don't even realize it until I look in the mirror. 173 00:14:01,396.81818182 --> 00:14:06,316.81818182 Or I can start to feel my voice becoming more flat, like you said, just a moment ago. 174 00:14:07,86.81818182 --> 00:14:09,306.81818182 This is something you can learn as well. 175 00:14:09,336.81818182 --> 00:14:12,66.81818182 These are not techniques I grew up with. 176 00:14:12,66.81818182 --> 00:14:25,146.81818182 I learned them along the way, became certified in a lot of these techniques, and now I know they're very teachable and it doesn't have to be expensive, and it doesn't have to be overly time consuming. 177 00:14:25,536.81818182 --> 00:14:26,886.81818182 So that's the good news. 178 00:14:27,466.81818182 --> 00:14:41,386.81818182 Now, Kathy, I also think you have some really great fast wake up tools that you didn't mention earlier, but you said you were going to, you mentioned taking a walk for 10 seconds in the cool crisp air, which we did, which I think is fantastic. 179 00:14:41,686.81818182 --> 00:14:46,966.81818182 And what else? So Kimberly, yes, I do have extra tips to share. 180 00:14:47,146.81818182 --> 00:14:52,456.81818182 One of the things that I like to do is roll my shoulders up and then roll them back. 181 00:14:53,56.81818182 --> 00:14:55,446.81818182 Drop them down, I'm doing that now. 182 00:14:55,476.81818182 --> 00:14:59,406.81818182 Does it look awkward? I know you can't see me, but I'm awkwardly rolling my shoulders. 183 00:14:59,406.81818182 --> 00:15:04,416.81818182 But you know what? The more of an exaggerated move I do, the more it feels better. 184 00:15:05,116.81818182 --> 00:15:06,826.81818182 Those big, big, big movements. 185 00:15:06,826.81818182 --> 00:15:07,426.81818182 I love that. 186 00:15:07,426.81818182 --> 00:15:07,936.81818182 Thank you. 187 00:15:08,896.81818182 --> 00:15:09,256.81818182 Good. 188 00:15:09,256.81818182 --> 00:15:10,516.81818182 I'm glad that felt good, Kimberly. 189 00:15:10,516.81818182 --> 00:15:11,806.81818182 It feels good to me too. 190 00:15:11,926.81818182 --> 00:15:19,176.81818182 A couple other tips that I can offer are lift your sternum slightly and bring your chin back. 191 00:15:19,416.81818182 --> 00:15:21,696.81818182 Not down, but keep your chin back. 192 00:15:22,206.81818182 --> 00:15:26,766.81818182 Oh, and that also dovetails to the fact that you have to look into your camera. 193 00:15:26,766.81818182 --> 00:15:32,316.81818182 So make sure that your computer is at eye level and that will help you keep your chin up. 194 00:15:32,961.81818182 --> 00:15:33,861.81818182 And not look down. 195 00:15:34,191.81818182 --> 00:15:34,521.81818182 Ha. 196 00:15:34,581.81818182 --> 00:15:38,511.81818182 And guess what? That's step number one in the group virtual office on it. 197 00:15:39,711.81818182 --> 00:15:56,601.81818182 You know what I absolutely love when other people's research supports my own? And remember this started out as Kimberly's conjecture, and then I became certified as a neurolinguistics coach practitioner, and now all of these research houses. 198 00:15:57,391.81818182 --> 00:16:05,611.81818182 Agree, and a lot more people are talking about that camera and the importance of getting it to eye level. 199 00:16:06,31.81818182 --> 00:16:07,321.81818182 So important. 200 00:16:07,321.81818182 --> 00:16:12,61.81818182 I am a huge fan of a ring light in general, and the light. 201 00:16:12,126.54301948 --> 00:16:17,766.54301948 Technique we teach is a couple of different techniques for the ring light. 202 00:16:17,766.54301948 --> 00:16:25,566.54301948 For example, I have a huge studio ring light in my office because I have a very dark office. 203 00:16:25,566.54301948 --> 00:16:30,486.54301948 The ceilings are cedar with open beam, and I need the extra light. 204 00:16:30,576.54301948 --> 00:16:32,76.54301948 But you might not. 205 00:16:32,76.54301948 --> 00:16:32,321.54301948 You might. 206 00:16:32,636.54301948 --> 00:16:40,356.5430195 Need just a tiny little ring light, we have an Amazon affiliate link, and Kathy will add that to the show notes. 207 00:16:40,356.5430195 --> 00:16:45,696.5430195 Just remember, your brain associates brightness with alertness. 208 00:16:45,816.5430195 --> 00:16:54,546.5430195 This is basic circadian biology, and it works if you're not paying attention to the circadian rhythms in your life. 209 00:16:54,786.5430195 --> 00:16:56,466.5430195 Well, that's a whole other episode. 210 00:16:57,626.5430195 --> 00:17:06,746.5430195 And then some of the on camera energy hacks besides the lighting are to anchor your emotion. 211 00:17:06,806.5430195 --> 00:17:11,680.0738421 What did I start off with this morning, Kathy? Kimberly, you started off with gratitude today. 212 00:17:11,794.6155076 --> 00:17:27,564.6155076 Yes, I absolutely did, and I had a great gratitude session this morning and I practice gratitude almost every day because there are so many times when we become boggled down with work and. 213 00:17:28,589.6155076 --> 00:17:40,259.6155076 Interesting colleagues and hard, hard projects we're working on, and it can really bring you down and bring down your tone and your energy. 214 00:17:40,499.6155076 --> 00:17:43,19.6155076 So I like to start with gratitude. 215 00:17:43,319.6155076 --> 00:17:48,664.6155076 I typically begin our team meetings by asking everybody to share something good news about. 216 00:17:48,949.6155076 --> 00:17:50,419.6155076 Business if they want to. 217 00:17:50,839.6155076 --> 00:17:52,819.6155076 If they want to share personal good news. 218 00:17:52,819.6155076 --> 00:17:54,469.6155076 I think that's great as well. 219 00:17:54,859.6155076 --> 00:18:05,259.2584735 You can also connect to your natural sense of curiosity, empathy, and of course, one of our favorites, which is what, Kathy, kimberly, of course it's humor. 220 00:18:06,326.4285463 --> 00:18:06,716.4285463 Yes. 221 00:18:06,766.4285463 --> 00:18:12,69.7089996 How about let's give a two minute routine for going from tired to ready. 222 00:18:12,429.7089996 --> 00:18:20,529.7089996 Now I have heard from a lot of you, you like sections that you can bookmark and easily reference, so I am going to roll through these. 223 00:18:20,529.7089996 --> 00:18:24,399.7089996 This is the two minute presenter reset. 224 00:18:24,819.7089996 --> 00:18:28,869.7089996 We've shared some of these already, but I'm just gonna give these to you in a list. 225 00:18:29,529.7089996 --> 00:18:30,939.7089996 10 steps. 226 00:18:31,59.7089996 --> 00:18:33,579.7089996 Take 10 steps in 10 seconds. 227 00:18:33,909.7089996 --> 00:18:35,679.7089996 Your shoulder reset. 228 00:18:36,159.7089996 --> 00:18:39,9.7089996 Cycle your breath four to six times. 229 00:18:39,9.7089996 --> 00:18:40,179.7089996 Breathe in four. 230 00:18:40,179.7089996 --> 00:18:42,639.7089996 Hold for four, breathe out six. 231 00:18:43,89.7089996 --> 00:18:48,879.7089996 Lift your posture and realign that camera if it's not right in the middle of your forehead. 232 00:18:49,239.7089996 --> 00:18:52,629.7089996 At eye level speak one high energy sentence. 233 00:18:52,897.6835038 --> 00:18:56,437.6835038 Smile intentionally for five seconds, even if it kills you. 234 00:18:56,437.6835038 --> 00:18:59,107.6835038 People Put a smile on your face. 235 00:18:59,137.6835038 --> 00:19:04,597.6835038 It will change your own attitude and begin with warmth if it's possible. 236 00:19:04,597.6835038 --> 00:19:12,142.6835038 I know we have some team meetings that it's not always possible to start that way, but if you can try to begin the meeting. 237 00:19:12,432.6835038 --> 00:19:14,292.6835038 Some type of warmth. 238 00:19:14,832.6835038 --> 00:19:18,972.6835038 Now, I'll just go back to number five, which was the high energy sentence. 239 00:19:18,972.6835038 --> 00:19:25,152.6835038 This is a technique I've used for years in teaching, especially non-native English speakers. 240 00:19:25,152.6835038 --> 00:19:27,312.6835038 How to speak better in American English. 241 00:19:27,702.6835038 --> 00:19:37,662.6835038 If you speak a sentence with your mouth wide open, which will probably make your coworkers giggle, it activates the articulation muscles in your face. 242 00:19:37,882.6835038 --> 00:19:45,997.6835038 If you're a person who says, I have a really thick tongue today, it's just because your articulation muscles are not properly activated. 243 00:19:46,377.6835038 --> 00:19:51,952.6835038 So I'll give you an example, and this is probably going to be super annoying, but I'm going to do it live and then I'll have Kathy do it as well. 244 00:19:52,222.6835038 --> 00:19:53,422.6835038 I'm going to say. 245 00:19:53,699.1140987 --> 00:19:57,569.1140987 My name is Kimberly Gilbert, and I'm your presenter today. 246 00:19:57,599.1140987 --> 00:19:59,969.1140987 Now I'm gonna do it with my mouth wide open. 247 00:20:00,155.6126823 --> 00:20:06,455.6126823 My name is Kimberly Gilbert, and I am your presenter today. 248 00:20:06,761.9752885 --> 00:20:10,811.9752885 Now, what I just did, if I feel like I have a thick tongue, go ahead, Kathy. 249 00:20:10,941.5900194 --> 00:20:12,586.5900194 I, I'm just laughing and silent. 250 00:20:12,586.5900194 --> 00:20:13,581.5900194 That's all I'm not gonna do. 251 00:20:14,1.5900194 --> 00:20:15,141.5900194 No, I'm not gonna do. 252 00:20:15,141.5900194 --> 00:20:15,421.5900194 Come on. 253 00:20:15,426.5900194 --> 00:20:15,946.5900194 Bust it out. 254 00:20:15,946.5900194 --> 00:20:17,386.5900194 Bust a move for audience. 255 00:20:17,506.5900194 --> 00:20:18,46.5900194 Seriously. 256 00:20:18,106.5900194 --> 00:20:18,616.5900194 Oh my goodness. 257 00:20:18,616.5900194 --> 00:20:19,606.5900194 This is so much fun. 258 00:20:19,606.5900194 --> 00:20:21,856.5900194 And it is so funny to do this in person. 259 00:20:22,96.5900194 --> 00:20:26,896.5900194 So, Kathy, say, my name is Kathy Gina, and I'll be your presenter today. 260 00:20:26,896.5900194 --> 00:20:37,216.5900194 Just say it in a regular tone and then open your mouth as wide as you can get it, like all the flies in the world are going to buzz into your mouth, and then we'll talk about the difference afterwards. 261 00:20:37,276.5900194 --> 00:20:37,666.5900194 Go ahead. 262 00:20:38,326.5900194 --> 00:20:41,296.5900194 First of all, people, this is a very awkward thing to do. 263 00:20:41,566.5900194 --> 00:20:45,196.5900194 She has asked me to do this before, and I'm not saying it doesn't work. 264 00:20:45,196.5900194 --> 00:20:46,786.5900194 It's just kind of strange. 265 00:20:46,786.5900194 --> 00:20:51,766.5900194 So my name is Kathy Gina, and I am your co-host today. 266 00:20:52,276.5900194 --> 00:21:02,56.5900194 I am Kathy, Gina Am and I am your co-host today. 267 00:21:02,626.5900194 --> 00:21:03,886.5900194 And there you go. 268 00:21:04,96.5900194 --> 00:21:07,606.5900194 Now, do you feel anything different in your face? Just be honest. 269 00:21:07,606.5900194 --> 00:21:14,176.5900194 Do you feel a little warmth tingling, maybe? Like your facial muscles are a little bit looser? They've been stretched. 270 00:21:14,176.5900194 --> 00:21:15,526.5900194 My mouth has been stretched. 271 00:21:15,937.3917191 --> 00:21:26,587.3917191 So you might be able to use this technique to very quickly warm up your articulation muscles in your face. 272 00:21:27,7.3917191 --> 00:21:30,997.3917191 I work with a lot of presenters who are very, very nervous. 273 00:21:31,27.3917191 --> 00:21:38,467.3917191 Oftentimes much more nervous in the virtual world than they ever would be on stage, which is a little bit mind blowing. 274 00:21:38,867.3917191 --> 00:21:41,477.3917191 Has happened thousands of times over the years. 275 00:21:41,807.3917191 --> 00:21:43,127.3917191 This is one of those little tricks. 276 00:21:43,127.3917191 --> 00:21:47,327.3917191 Obviously, we don't share this live to the audience unless I'm in trainer mode. 277 00:21:47,387.3917191 --> 00:21:47,477.3917191 Mm-hmm. 278 00:21:47,717.3917191 --> 00:21:51,677.3917191 And I'm helping you learn to become more confident and become more articulate. 279 00:21:51,677.3917191 --> 00:21:57,47.3917191 When you speak, you can be considered a speaker who is not very articulate. 280 00:21:57,732.3917191 --> 00:22:02,292.3917191 Open up and warm up the articulation muscles. 281 00:22:02,292.3917191 --> 00:22:07,452.3917191 You form a little bit of muscle memory, especially if you struggle with a word. 282 00:22:07,452.3917191 --> 00:22:16,362.3917191 I have a lot of non-native English speakers that struggle with LS or Rs, and we work on those articulation muscles and it works. 283 00:22:16,392.3917191 --> 00:22:17,172.3917191 It works. 284 00:22:17,262.3917191 --> 00:22:24,102.3917191 Like how said it might be slightly weird and slightly awkward, but you know, there's just another one of Kimberly's training tools. 285 00:22:25,32.3917191 --> 00:22:27,942.3917191 Hey, you know, whatever works is what you need to use. 286 00:22:27,942.3917191 --> 00:22:30,477.3917191 And I have often said that I have a thick tongue. 287 00:22:30,577.3917191 --> 00:22:34,557.3917191 It's always, I have a hard time with my S'S and I forget this. 288 00:22:34,942.3917191 --> 00:22:46,462.3917191 Technique, and so I have to remember to do this before we record each time, right? A lot of people will say thick tongue, but it isn't necessarily your thick tongue. 289 00:22:46,462.3917191 --> 00:22:49,432.3917191 It's really the articulation muscles that are helping you. 290 00:22:49,732.3917191 --> 00:22:50,302.3917191 Speak. 291 00:22:50,692.3917191 --> 00:22:50,782.3917191 Mm-hmm. 292 00:22:51,22.3917191 --> 00:23:00,22.3917191 So maybe that gives you and our listeners a little bit of new insight as we move forward with the next group. 293 00:23:00,22.3917191 --> 00:23:03,532.3917191 Virtual office audit, virtual office audit.com. 294 00:23:03,532.3917191 --> 00:23:05,392.3917191 30 minutes, seven steps. 295 00:23:05,392.3917191 --> 00:23:08,212.3917191 And you are not going to believe how. 296 00:23:08,572.3917191 --> 00:23:20,902.3917191 Expensive it is for you to start the learning journey toward successful virtual meetings becoming a successful virtual leader or virtual producer. 297 00:23:20,902.3917191 --> 00:23:24,802.3917191 This virtual office audit helps you hands down. 298 00:23:24,832.3917191 --> 00:23:29,537.3917191 We've heard it thousands of times now, and we would love to see you online. 299 00:23:30,277.3917191 --> 00:23:38,897.3917191 Kathy, does this feel like a wrap to you Kimberly, I think we are close to a wrap, but I just want to say one more thing I read something and I need to share it. 300 00:23:39,227.3917191 --> 00:23:42,437.3917191 So back to the lighting and our frame. 301 00:23:43,257.3917191 --> 00:23:51,777.3917191 Your face has to be the brightest thing in the frame, and the reason is because our brains prioritize bright objects. 302 00:23:51,777.3917191 --> 00:23:52,467.3917191 Mm-hmm. 303 00:23:53,7.3917191 --> 00:23:54,387.3917191 I forget those details. 304 00:23:54,627.3917191 --> 00:23:59,457.3917191 So if we have a bright face, it equals perceived energy. 305 00:23:59,727.3917191 --> 00:24:01,122.3917191 But if our face is dim. 306 00:24:02,407.3917191 --> 00:24:04,597.3917191 Our audience perceives fatigue. 307 00:24:04,807.3917191 --> 00:24:06,337.3917191 I think that's so powerful. 308 00:24:06,577.3917191 --> 00:24:07,477.3917191 Oh, it is. 309 00:24:07,507.3917191 --> 00:24:09,7.3917191 I completely agree with you. 310 00:24:09,127.3917191 --> 00:24:09,607.3917191 Yes. 311 00:24:09,607.3917191 --> 00:24:12,847.3917191 We strive to achieve the halo effect. 312 00:24:12,997.3917191 --> 00:24:13,87.3917191 Mm-hmm. 313 00:24:13,387.3917191 --> 00:24:21,347.3917191 For you as the presenter in any of your virtual engagements, whatever that might look like for you, Kathy. 314 00:24:21,797.3917191 --> 00:24:24,377.3917191 Does this feel like a wrap now? It's a wrap. 315 00:24:24,573.6296795 --> 00:24:24,843.6296795 Okay. 316 00:24:24,843.6296795 --> 00:24:25,263.6296795 It's good. 317 00:24:25,323.6296795 --> 00:24:39,603.6296795 Well, it's great to pack in any last minute details that pertain to the episode because there's so much we want to share with you and we are so excited and so passionate about this space and what we have coming up. 318 00:24:40,263.6296795 --> 00:24:42,723.6296795 I feel like this is a wrap as well. 319 00:24:43,315.4478613 --> 00:24:48,745.4478613 We look forward to meeting you in the next episode where we go live from the waist up.
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