All Episodes

June 3, 2025 62 mins

Is your insurance policy building wealth or just a cost? In this episode of the Vital Wealth Strategies Podcast, host Patrick Lonergan, founder of Vital Wealth, sits down with Wallis Wilkinson Tsai, a former Goldman Sachs investment banker, hedge fund investor, and co-founder of AboveBoard Financial. Together, they explore how insurance can become a powerful tool in your financial strategy, if it’s used correctly. Whether you're a high-level entrepreneur, CEO, or business owner, this conversation will show you how to turn insurance from a sunk cost into a high-leverage asset. 

Wallis shares her expertise on everything from tax-optimized life insurance structures to often-overlooked tools like disability coverage and executive benefits. This episode will challenge what you’ve heard about “buy term and invest the rest,” and introduce you to strategies like Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts (ILITs), Private Placement Life Insurance (PPLI), and buy-sell agreements that can drastically improve your financial outcomes. If you’re looking to reduce taxes, preserve wealth, and make smarter decisions about your business and legacy, you’ll want to listen all the way through. 

Key Takeaways: 

  • Why most insurance sales are misaligned with client goals 
  • How to use life insurance for tax-deferred and tax-free growth 
  • The hidden importance of disability insurance for business owners 
  • Estate planning strategies using Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts (ILITs) and survivorship policies 
  • How executive benefit carve-outs can retain top talent and reduce tax liability 
  • A breakdown of Whole Life, Indexed Universal Life (IUL), Variable Universal Life (VUL), and Private Placement Life Insurance (PPLI), plus when to use each 
  • Why now is the time to reevaluate your insurance strategy 

Learn More About Wallis:

Episode Exclusive Website

Official Website

Resources:   

Visit www.vitalstrategies.com to download FREE resources     

Listen to the podcast on your favorite app: https://link.chtbl.com/vitalstrategies    

Follow on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/vital.strategies      

Follow on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/VitalStrategiesPodcast     

Follow on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricklonergan/     

Credits:    

Sponsored by Vital Wealth    

Music by Cephas    

Art work by Two Tone Creative 

Audio, video, research and copywriting by Victoria O'Brien

Mark as Played
Transcript

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Ridiculous History

Ridiculous History

History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.