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July 29, 2025 46 mins

Is your business growing but so is your stress, chaos, and burnout? In this episode of The Vital Wealth Strategies Podcast, host Patrick Lonergan sits down with Leslie Hassler, founder of Your Biz Rules and author of First This, Then That, to challenge the traditional narrative of business success. With nearly two decades of experience guiding entrepreneurs, Leslie brings a fresh philosophy: Scaling Rich, a model of intentional, profitable growth that enhances your life rather than consumes it. Together, they unpack the difference between growth and true scalability, why recovery is a critical phase most founders skip, and how belief and mindset might be your biggest barriers to reaching your next level. 

Whether you're stuck at a revenue ceiling, feel like your team’s underperforming, or are just craving more time freedom, this episode delivers a roadmap to building a business that serves your life, not the other way around. Patrick and Leslie dive into fractional C-suite strategies, high-profit models, and why now is the best time to embrace change and let your business evolve. This episode is packed with candid stories, actionable insights, and a new lens on what it means to thrive as an entrepreneur. 

Key Takeaways: 

  • Why entrepreneurs must stop choosing between scale and sanity 
  • The difference between growth, scale, and recovery and why all three matter 
  • How belief and inertia keep business owners stuck 
  • Why profitability, not revenue, is the ultimate metric 
  • How fractional C-suite support can unlock operational efficiency and profits 
  • The importance of building a business that fits your life, not the other way around 

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Credits:    

Sponsored by Vital Wealth    

Music by Cephas    

Art work by Two Tone Creative 

Audio, video, research and copywriting by Victoria O'Brien

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