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November 25, 2025 59 mins

Is your business growing but somehow getting harder to manage? In this episode of the Vital Wealth Strategies Podcast, host Patrick Lonergan sits down with Courtney De Ronde, CEO of Forge Financial and Management Consulting, to unpack what it really takes to move from growth to true scale. Together they explore how entrepreneurs can evolve from being the do-it-all founder to a confident leader who builds systems, empowers teams, and creates a business that runs efficiently, without running them into burnout. 

Listeners will discover why scaling requires more than just working harder, how to make data-backed decisions, and the mindset shifts needed to build a company that thrives long-term. Packed with practical tools, leadership insight, and strategic frameworks, this conversation offers a roadmap for anyone ready to build structure, clarity, and sustainable profitability. 

Key Takeaways: 

  • The difference between growth and scale and why most founders confuse the two 
  • The two essential transformations every entrepreneur must make to scale successfully 
  • How to use business intelligence and KPIs to lead with data, not instinct 
  • The “Diagnose → Design → Drive” framework for continuous improvement 
  • Why clarity in vision, mission, and values is the foundation of scalable leadership 

Learn More About Courtney: 

Ebook – The Simple Scale-Up System: forgeahead.com/ebook 

Scaling Assessment: assessments.forgeahead.com 

Forge Financial Website: forgeahead.com 

Episode Resources: 

The Five Dysfunctions of a Team - Patrick Lencioni   Deep Work - Cal Newport 

Essentialism - Greg McKeown 

The Four Tendencies- Gretchen Rubin 

Full Focus Planner - Michael Hyatt 

Resources:   

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Credits:    

Sponsored by Vital Wealth    

Music by Cephas    

Art work by Two Tone Creative 

Audio, video, research and copywriting by Victoria O'Brien

 

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