Nature has a plan of its own. Are we willing to listen?
In this last part of their conversation, host Abby Starr and Ke’oni Hanalei explore the deep relationship between wellness, nature, and self-awareness. Running is more than movement for Ke’oni. It is meditation, a way to connect with breath and presence. Foraging is not just gathering. It is a conversation with the plants, asking for consent and honoring the exchange. What shifts when we see the natural world as an active participant rather than a resource to control?
The episode also challenges the idea of possession and how attachment fuels destruction. Ke’oni shares insights from the ferns, including a message from Neke, the fern of charisma, which they believe will shape 2025. What if true influence starts with looking inward?
Abby and Ke’oni’s conversation invites reflection on how we engage with nature, our past, and ourselves. It is a reminder to move through life with more presence, gratitude, and respect for the world around us.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:23 Running as Meditation
03:15 Experiencing Nature in Hawaii
03:57 Respecting Nature and Plant Medicine
05:01 Ceremony and Plant Potency
06:08 Lessons from Nature and Plants
07:01 Listening to the Natural World
08:48 The Influence of Charisma in 2025
10:06 Looking Inward for Influence
12:00 The Concept of Possession
13:31 Balancing Possession and Sentimentality
15:03 Grief and Completion
17:35 Authenticity and Honesty
19:16 Embracing True Nature
20:25 Confirmation of Ancestral Knowledge
22:32 Importance of Remembering Our Roots
23:19 Closing
24:05 Quickfire Questions
Links
Connect with Ke’oni Hanalei:
Website: https://www.pohala.net/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pohala_hawaiian_botanicals/
Source & Self:
Website: https://source-self.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sourceandself
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sourceandself
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sourceandselfboxes
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