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it was unthinkable, unthinkable, but it's actually brought the whole family, my whole work, my whole relationship to another level that I didn't think it could go to.
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So if anyone is listening, there is another option.
.001If you're just stuck with those two options, there is another option to explore your own body.
And as soon as I'd learned the work and had this experience with the cervical orgasm, I was like, I need to teach this.
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Welcome to Wendy Goes Deep.
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I am Wendy and today I have got Nicola Parish on with me and I am really excited to talk to her about today's topic, which is not going to come as a surprise to some of you who know me.
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We're going to be talking about cervical orgasms.
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So definitely one of my favorite topics.
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And if you don't know who Nicola is, she is an embodied female pleasure and wild woman circle.
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Facilitator based in Cheshire, UK, and she, after having spent nearly a decade studying energy healing, Nicola has established herself as a specialist in facilitating the awakening and enhancing of more pleasure for women, magical humans, and vulva owners, 35 plus.
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She is now known for putting the spark back in the bedroom in established marriages and long term relationships.
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Everything she has learned and practiced over that time has been weaved with the roadmap training in embodied female pleasure so that they can experience pleasure, intimacy, orgasms, and sex, and have confidence in themselves and their body at any age.
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These teachings have been a lifeline during Nicola's perimenopause journey.
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And she believes everyone should have access to their body's wisdom and the magical experiences it can bring.
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She is also married to her husband for 20 years and two teenage daughters and loves the outdoors, walking her dog, Ralph, and connecting to her Celtic roots and healing.
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Her favorite food is homemade pizza and loves to travel to the sun.
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Welcome Nicola thank you so much for having me, inviting me on.
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Really, really excited to talk about this.
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Really excited.
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Me too.
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So, I mean, sometimes I kind of talk about like the background, but I'm thinking I kind of want to just dive in and start talking about cervical orgasms because especially as a sex educator, I don't know if you come across this too.
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I hear a lot of people talk about how cervical orgasms aren't really a thing and that it's really just all the clitoris.
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And so I would love to hear Your perspective when you hear people say, no, it's just clitoral orgasms that we're having.
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Like, how did you discover cervical orgasms? And how do you know if you're having a cervical orgasm versus like a clitoral orgasm? I want to hear from you.
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I love it.
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I love how we're diving straight in as well, because I always tell my clients, like, we don't start with a cervical orgasm.
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It's like, we warm up to that conversation.
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You know, we warm up to, to get in there.
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It's not the goal, but yeah, there's definitely been, from my experience, a very marked difference between.
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The energy around a clitoris orgasm and a cervical orgasm.
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And it was actually me having my very first solo cervical orgasm during me establishing I was in perimenopause that was really profound, really spiritual.
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I felt really lit up, felt connected to everything.
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This is where we switch.
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It's like, this is where we switch the light and it just filled me up.
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There was this sense of being full, full and like this energy of overflowing and giving, you know, when people say share from an overflowing cup and I'm like, yeah, I would, if I knew what that felt like, you know, so first solo cervical orgasm, I was like, ah, this is that surplus energy that's there to give.
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And, uh, just was.
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So for those that say they haven't, that they don't exist, um, you know, all the work is about feeling your own body, getting to know your own body.
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There's a lot of things women have been told in the past about their own body.
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So this is really, um, and my experience to a cervical orgasm, I feel is going to be different to anybody else's who, you know, I can describe what it feels for me.
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But I couldn't describe what it feels for you or one of my clients and, and there, there, there is always, sometimes I'll even go to myself.
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Was that one? Was that one? I'm not sure if that was one, you know, because the, um, a clitoris orgasm is, can be very fast and the energy is there and there's this peak.
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So then you've got the peak and the energy goes out and then afterwards you can, you know, you want to go, maybe you want to go again.
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There's just this energy, to me, it's like the energy goes out, whereas the cervical is like keeping it in, letting it flow through, through the whole of the body.
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Um, so yeah, does that answer a little bit of the question? So I'm excited to hear you describe your cervical orgasm because of understanding the biology.
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And I love that you mentioned women have been told a lot of things that are incorrect about their bodies.
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And One of those is very much tied to the cervix.
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So no shade on masters and Johnson who did so much benefit to, uh, understanding sex, sex, sex process and sex health and sex pleasure and all of that, uh, their work in their sixties, but they.
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The way part of how they did that, they interviewed a whole bunch of people.
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So this was really taboo.
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So it was really cutting edge.
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And as I said, like absolutely very thankful that they've done this work because they completely helped progress, you know, sex education as we know it, you know, now, however, there's An aspect to some of the research that they did that has done some, um, kind of long lasting harm and, you know, because of it.
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And 1 of it is about the cervix.
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So, when they interviewed the women that, and by the way, these were all mostly young women, um, all college age, for the most part, and, you know, for the people listening who are older.
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Uh, we can probably all agree that you as a younger person, you as an older person, there's a big difference in how you connect to yourself and connect to your body.
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So unless you grew up with caregivers, you know, family, or in a situation where you learn how to be embodied from a young age, most people in their twenties are so disconnected from their body.
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And part of this survey was, About whether or not they could feel on their cervix.
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And so.
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The, the end result was that the cervix was numb and this information got put into textbooks in OBGYN books.
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And even to this day, many women, when they go to talk to their doctor about different procedures with the cervix, they'll be like, Oh, it's no big deal.
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This because they have this belief that the cervix is numb when in fact the cervix has three pairs of nerves.
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It's actually one of the most highly innervated organs in the body.
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And so this has to do with like the work you do and the work that I do And it is about kind of dispelling this myth that the cervix is not a source of pleasure because it is truly a source of pleasure, just like the clitoris has nerves on it, the cervix has nerves on it too.
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And so this kind of breaking this myth about like where orgasms occur, I think is part of it.
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You know, stems from this, like, long belief that only this, the clitoris is the source of orgasms when in, which is ironic to me also, because a lot of these sex educators will also talk about nipple orgasms and so they believe that you can have a nipple orgasm.
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But only a clitoral orgasm and they're completely ignoring the rest of the biology.
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And when in fact, orgasms start and end in the nervous system and their nervous system function.
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So anywhere there's a nerve cluster, you can actually have an orgasm.
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It's really interesting that they found out about the numbness around the cervix because that is often the case.
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And that was my own experience.
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You know, this is where we say we don't go.
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I follow like a roadmap with the process.
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And we start off with like being in your body, feeling safe in your body.
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exploring what your body's like, exploring pleasure as a whole.
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It's a, it takes its time.
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It takes as long as it takes.
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Some people can get there quite easily.
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Some people have some stuff or some numbness.
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We call it the thawing out process, like the thawing out stage.
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And so When I went into, like, explore my cervix, I was like, go steady, and go slow, and take your time, and I often shame, good old Nicola fashion way, we went straight in.
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You know, I was like, I've not got the patience to wait for that, which.
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Um, we really did find numbness, pain, and the energy of being, um, impacted by an ex boyfriend that was, I'd never told anybody, it was like quite, um, abusive, it was, and that was all, that energy was held on the cervix, so that's why when I went into explore, it was numb.
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So what you're saying, they've probably done the interview and that could be the case for many women because we store a lot of our trauma a lot of you know a lot of what's going on for us a lot of our stories in our pelvis and our hips and Because I come from this energy kind of world So it's like well, of course, you know if that's still hanging around there since there was like 27, what the hell, you know? that's um And especially with being, I've been together for 20 years now with my husband and it was like, I could, you know, project the blame onto him when actually it's my own body that needed like love and attention and, and this release.
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So yeah, it can feel numb in the beginning.
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Um, but with some love and patience and internal massage, not going in for the goal, you know, Getting to know your body and vulva gazing and there's lots of different practices I do now.
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And because I've been through that of like going straight in, I really stress to anybody, if you're exploring, go really, really slow.
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Because I literally cried for three days and had to have some energetic support to.
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You know, now I can talk about the story and it's gone.
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And I'd never told anybody what happened.
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So it's really interesting to me that that's what they found.
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That of course they would find that in the beginning, but it feels.
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So the, the cervix and the throat are connected through, uh, it's called the deep fascial line.
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And from the time that you're, you're born, there's an indentation that becomes later becomes the genitals.
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And there's an indentation that becomes the mouth and that line still connects.
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And so.
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They're literally anytime you feel like you can't speak up and there's like energy flowing up through your body and you want to voice it.
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Whether that's through tears, whether that's through anger, whether it's speaking your mind, like anytime that energy is coming up and it gets to your throat where you feel like it needs to be released and you clamp it down, that energy travels through the deep fascial line and gets stored into the cervix.
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If you are a male, it gets stored in the prostate.
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And so it's the same analogous, uh, yeah, like body part.
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Um, so if, you know, it's not surprising that this, that people are so numb, because now if you think about what happens when you are in pain, your body goes, Hey, there's a pain signal, whether it's mental, physical, emotional is, it doesn't actually matter.
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It gets to process in the same part of the brain, which is the period aqueductal gray.
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Um, But if you ignore it, your body will stop sending pain signals and you will become numb because you're not addressing the pain.
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And so that's why the cervix is numb for most women because they haven't addressed the pain of whatever caused that energy to be stuck there.
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I mean, when you explain it like that, I love that you know the science.
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I mean, I, I am in perimenopause and I'd forget those names straight away, but the, the, the way women have had to not speak and not express their feelings, it's no wonder that this area of our body has been so ignored and left to feel numb.
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It's that's when the rage kind of comes.
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You can feel the rage coming, coming through because, you know, turning 50 last year, being from that generation where we were, you know, my mum didn't speak about anything like, I mean, even now when I think of my mum, I kind of shut down on, on talking.
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We called it that department and would point to that department.
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And so, and her moments, definitely it was never anything that was, um, in my family, in my history.
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So no wonder it's been pushed down because to speak, to speak their truth and speak what they desire.
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Even now, I, I'm, whenever I ask a client or ask friends or, you know, ask my community, what is it you desire? It gets stuck here.
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It's, They don't even know what it is they desire or what, you know, what they want, what they want even.
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And so that's like the place to start speaking what you want.
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Yes, and I love that you...
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when you were talking about this was about creating safety.
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So I am orgasm coach and a neuro-pleasure coach and 80% of my work is teaching people how to feel safe in their body.
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That's that, that, that's it.
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Because you, when you don't feel safe, just neurobiologically.
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If you don't feel safe, you are tense.
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And you will keep holding that energy in..
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And, you know, you use the term energy.
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I use the term energy and that is, you know, the term that we use.
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And I know it becomes very elusive, but if you think about what happens when you get stressed, like we, we feel like, you know, our face gets a little warm, our breathing picks up, you know, there's all these different biological functions that happen.
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That's chemistry, right? And when there's a chemical reaction, there is a, you know, you put different things together, there's going to be the stuff that's used and then there's going to be.
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The waste, right? From the experiment, right? Or from the, for the combination.
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That waste that's the energy that also travels through our body and it gets stuck in the fascia and the fascia covers every single organ, every single structure in your body.
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And it's this interconnected web that keeps our body.
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Together, basically, and your cervix is covered in fascia, and your throat is covered in fascia, and it gets, travels through there and gets stuck and lodged.
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That energy doesn't go, doesn't just disappear.
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Right.
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We know that.
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I think everyone, most people watching this or listening to this knows that energy cannot be created or destroyed.
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It can only be transferred.
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And so if you're not transferring that energy, it's stuck in your body.
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And a lot of people also don't realize this.
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If you think about like when you eat and you've taken calories, that's like, we know it's energy, right? How are we actually releasing it? Most people are not aware it's through our breath.
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It's through our.
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Voice it's through our mouth.
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It is through this, this, uh, circular organ that we, you know, we have.
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And when we cannot express the energy through the, the throat.
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It travels back down and gets stuck in our body.
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And this is why I think for myself, um, I was 47, I think, when I came across this work.
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Um, It was, you know, perimenopause now, we name it as that.
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And, um, I was very anxious.
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I was very stressed.
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Um, very worried about the future, you know, two teenage daughters.
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Worrying about my relationship.
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You know, I sat on the stairs thinking, how can I do my work that means so much to me and bring up children and have a husband? It was just like, I just sat on the stairs.
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Like I thought the only options I had was, do I stay and be unhappy or leave? And it just consumes me all the time.
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And I'd be crying.
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I could feel it in the morning coming up, this feeling of like, Oh my gosh, getting my feet out of bed and putting two feet on the ground.
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And for those that know me, I mean, you know, that is not me.
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Um, I love life.
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I love living and I put everything into everything.
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So it was really like, I know it was in COVID and I know it was really different times, but I usually can rise to whatever.
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And I just so grateful that this third option come in of where I could look at myself, look at how to please my own body.
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Cause if I didn't know how to please my own body, how am I expecting my husband to? Or whoever your partner, your partner is like, it was such a revelation to feel safe in my body, come back to my body, come back to really feeling the emotions was there, you know, not strangling the relationship, like this has to work or, you know, living in this fear that I've got to leave.
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Just to create some space around it and create some space for like, you know, leave the dishes, leave the washing up and just go and spend two hours with yourself, which, I mean, you know, just was, it was unthinkable, unthinkable, but it's actually brought the whole family, my whole work, my whole relationship to another level that I didn't think it could go to.
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So the, you know, if anyone is listening, there is another option.
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It doesn't have to be though.
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If you're just stuck with those two options, there is another option to explore your own body and, you know, And then bring that and then bring that.
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And as soon as I'd learned the work and in orgasmic confidence and had this experience with the cervical orgasm, I was like, I need to teach this.
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Like, I was like walking around and everyone's like, how are you doing? And I was like, Oh, well, what have you been doing while in lockdown? And I was like, Oh, cervical orgasms.
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And I'd be having these amazing conversations on the corners with like women from all ages.
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Even in the 70s, this one woman, she was a retired air stewardess.
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I was like, have you heard about the cervical orgasms or in the supermarket going, have you heard of them? And everyone's going, no, no.
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And I was like, you know, and I was like, you look really well.
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I said, I know I'm feeling it.
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And it was the anxiety, when the stress, when I'm with a better mom to show up, I was sharing.
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I was like, I'm not getting, you're not, you won't need to get to 47 to have all this.
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It's gorgeous information.
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I've got, you can have it now and there, but you know, it changed the way I communicate with my daughters on how I speak about it.
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So yeah, um, I get, I got to talk about it all day.
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I get really.
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Excited, but just that even for perimenopause or as your body changes, you know, and you said, like, what, what do I desire now? It just takes a little bit longer.
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It is a little bit slower, but it's so much more deeper, you know, it doesn't have to be more, you know, sometimes people are just want more sex, more sex.
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Well, what about if it was, more meaningful and deeper and more connected.
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It doesn't have to be more of something.
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It can just be a different experience.
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And yeah, Yeah.
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know one of the things that like, one of the reasons why I'm such a big proponent of Yoni dearmoring and learning about cervical orgasms and, you know, really doing this work to.
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Show up for yourself is honestly like the best thing for your health and you, you hinted at it, right? That you were things were easier.
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Obviously we know stress is like the number one killer of everybody, right? It's because your body's not safe and when you're not safe, you're not able to Give the energetic resources to digestion and repairing and all the different things that your, your body needs to be healthy.
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And while clitoral orgasms are amazing, they're fun.
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Um, they are surface level.
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And I do not mean that in a bad way.
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I mean that in a biological way, they are part of the nerve.
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It's the pedendal nerve.
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Uh, this is the same as, um, That the same nerve that connects a penis to.
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So just.
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You know, for people to be aware of that and it is, it's a surface level.
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It has to deal with the extremities.
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And that's why sometimes people will feel like a tingling in their toes, even with a really, you know, intense cervical orgasm, I mean, cervical clitoral orgasm.
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Whereas the cervical orgasm is attached to the vagus nerve.
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And most people in wellness, they I've probably heard of the vagus nerve.
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It is the nerve that connects our entire body together.
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It's like our breathing, our heart rate, all our digestive system is connected to the vagus.
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Basically everything that is essential for wellbeing is connected to the vagus nerve and people do things like breath work, cold plunges, all these different modalities to tone the vagus nerve.
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Cervical orgasms.
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Do that.
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I don't know about you, but I really liked that way of toning my vagus nerve.
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Um, and that was it.
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I was doing all the things like so many things and this, whether it be a spiritual journey, unraveling, I was just doing, it felt like I was doing everything.
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I'm sure it wasn't everything.
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Cause there's so much more out there now, but even, um, you know, like Kundalini yoga, and now I've had the felt experience of it, like it was bringing all the energy up and out.
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And I was still feeling frazzled and still feeling my nervous system was like, we want to bring the energy down.
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We want to bring the energy back down, down here so we can go into like a more relaxed and flow mode, but be able to go into go.
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So it was like, so I did.
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Then you get grounded.
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I got really grounded to where I didn't do anything.
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So this, this for me has just been where I can show up as myself.
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I feel more like myself.
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I stopped overthinking.
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I stopped beating myself.
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I mean, I was a classic, you know, beat myself up.
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People would tell me, stop beating yourself up, Nicholas.
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I was like, yeah, it's great.
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You're telling me that.
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And then, you know, cervical orgasms.
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I was like, I don't beat myself up anymore, you know, and to me, that is like, been the, one of the biggest gifts.
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To my mental, my, my, my mental wellbeing, you know, um, yeah, and it's lovely to reflect.
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It's lovely to reflect and share I like to that.
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jump in with a little science there again.
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I think this is why we've, we've connected because I have the felt sense and this is like the felt sense of the experience to explain it.
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And then you like filling in all the, uh, the science of it, which is great.
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Exactly.
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I know.
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I realize a lot in my conversations.
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I understand the science so well, but even though I have physical experience, it's really hard for me not to explain it biologically because it's just such a part of, of my ethos.
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Um, and so, uh, one of the things that you brought up though, is how you were doing the breath work and the Kundalini and how bringing the energy up.
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And while that is a great experience and I, I'm a huge proponent of breathwork.
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I'm actually, uh, it depends on when this airs.
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Most, most likely is right around my, my certification.
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I'm getting certified in holotropic breathwork.
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So I'm a huge proponent of it.
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So like what I'm about to say right now, you know, it's not like I'm poo pooing on breathwork.
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However, people do not know how to breathe all the way through their diaphragm.
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And to their pelvic floor and a lot of the breathwork training teaches these techniques on, you know, the actual like moving of the breath.
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But if you are not bringing your breath into your pelvic floor.
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Because you're numb, you forgot sensation there.
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You're not aware of it.
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You're disconnected.
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You don't even know you're disconnected from your pelvic floor because if you're, you know, having a clitoral orgasm, you don't think you're disconnected because, well, look, I can have an orgasm, right? Except for, You're on the surface, you're not into the, the deeper part of the organs, the deeper sensations that only occur, like in the cervix, the a spot, the u-spot.
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You need those, those deeper areas within, um, to get that sense, you know, if you're not able to feel those, that means you're disconnected and.
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When you do the breath work and you don't go all the way to the pelvic floor, you're staying within the more sympathetic range of your breath.
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Even if you're doing the long exhales, you got all the technique right.
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If you're not pulling your breath into the pelvic floor, that energy can only go up and it doesn't have that full experience of the vagal toning that people are actually looking for.
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Now, some people figure out how to do it through the breath work and that's why they, they finally get this relief relief because they're finally being connected to their pelvic floor.
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Right.
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But some people really are so disconnected that it doesn't And they don't know it, but they struggle getting to the pelvic floor or they need those like hours long sessions to really connect in, you know, or doing like hot yoga or these different modalities that really, you know, turn kind of turn off their brain and get them embodied because of that disconnection, right? This is why like cervical orgasms and like this process of the slow awakening because it teaches you how to connect.
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To the pelvic floor and then all these other modalities work so much better.
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And it's really important, you know, especially as we age to connect to our pelvic floor and be aware of how it works and how we can support it as we move through into the next stage.
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You know, everything that we're doing now and looking after ourselves in our, you know, in your 40s, your 50s, we're looking after ourselves in our 50s, 60s and beyond.
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You know, keeping your awareness around your pelvic floor is super, it's been super powerful and to be connected to it and where all the creativity and juice and uh, and the alive, like your life force energy.
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My throat is crackling now here.
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It's like come and spend some time with my own pelvic floor.
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Yeah, it's really important.
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I've been doing quite a bit of work with them and different clients.
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I mean, I, I love it.
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So I love that you are helping guide people, you know, through this process of learning their bodies.
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I mean, it's, it's your body.
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I think there's so much information out there now.
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This like you're saying these books on how to have an orgasm or all this just, or even what we fed on Instagram or Facebook or whatever your social media is.
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There's so much of how you should feel or what it's like to be spiritual or what it's like to be a woman or full grown or...
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There's so many imprints out there.
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out there that really finding, you know, well, how do you feel? How do you feel? And that kind of remember that you can, you've probably got through some tough times in the past and your body does know the way, you know, I think I was getting a little bit reliant on all these things.
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Whereas it's not really empowering, where now I know I can listen to, I can really listen to the signals.
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I still ignore them.
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You know, it's like sometimes it's good to ignore them, you know? Like this morning it got me out of, I was like, I could go back to sleep, but I need to go and work out at seven.
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So I was really grateful that I ignored it and got up and got the energy going.
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But like before our call, I was like, I feel really tired.
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Like there was this tiredness that come over me so I can take myself off to an embodied practice and check in.
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And I was like, no, it's not actually tiredness I was feeling.
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It was that kind of little bit of excitement for a new call and talking about this and.
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And like I said, I was able to move through whatever was showing up for me before our call.
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And it's like knowing your own emotions and knowing how your own body feels.
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No one can tell you how you should feel or, or yeah, or your emotions or yeah.
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And I think that's been really powerful for myself and that what I see for clients, especially, um, clients that, you know, if they've, Some horrific, but women come to me with some horrific birth stories.
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We've done some, I've done some deep work with women.
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Um, so no wonder they're feeling numb.
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I mean, some medical stories on how they've been left.
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And, um, we spend a lot of time going really slow.
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It's interesting.
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Cause I did myself have a, um, you know, but our body can, can release the trauma.
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It doesn't have to hold onto it.
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It doesn't have to.
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Stay that way.
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I'm sure by you keep sharing your message and me coming out.
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I mean, if you'd have said to me, you're going to be talking about cervical orgasms in podcasts or in your, I was like, no way.
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It took me a good 12 months, 18 months to really like, yeah, I can talk about this.
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But without the shame, all the, all the stuff coming down on me now.
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you said that right now, I'm thinking a little bit about my journey.
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So when I got started, I was purely focused on having different kinds of orgasms.
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I was not in this connected cervical orgasm, yoni dearmouring part at all.
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And, um, I still, as I was learning about and talking to people, I still would kind of like giggle.
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I mean, I, I laugh all the time anyway, but I would kind of get when I say vagina or peanut, I would be like kind of talking about it cause there was still so much shame around, you know, just having these conversations about body parts.
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Um, now I just.
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I, I find it ridiculous because if I can talk about my elbow, why can't I talk about another body part? Right.
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You can talk about your throat.
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People talk about, Oh, I have a tense jaw.
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Oh, do you have a tense pelvic floor? And all of a sudden the conversation changes.
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It's a body part.
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Like, come on.
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Right.
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Why is it that those are the only.
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Body parts that, you know, that's a whole thing, right? it's a whole, I hold wild women's circles as well online.
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I do, um, facilitate.
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That where we do some embodiment, um, we do a wild woman, like embodied a deeper in embodiment practice, play with flavors, and then we do a ritual.
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And I've had friends reach out and say, it's not the sex stuff, is it? It's like, I'm like, it's not it.
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I have to say it's not, even though it's the beginning of it.
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It's the big, you know, all the practices layer on each other.
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We just don't talk about the anatomy and the wilder in circles.
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It's embodiment and feeling safe in your body and exploring like the range of emotions you can feel.
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But it's really interesting that that keeps coming up, like, just don't talk to me about, about that.
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And, um, yeah, I'm like, ooh, ooh, this is, this is where the juice is.
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This is why, um, you're all, you're feeling overwhelmed and anxious and all the things going on.
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It's like, when you push what's going on in your sex life out of your health, You know, I don't think I've ever been to the doctors and they've said, So how's your sex life? You know, that, that's never come up, but it's so related.
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It's more like, like, it's more connected than, than we know.
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So, yeah.
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medicine.
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It is actually, is it TCM or Ayurveda? Might be both, but I can't remember now off the top of my head.
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Okay.
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So, you know, like now that I want to talk about it, it just, the facts just left my head.
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However, it's one of the, like the main pillars, like libido is one of the main pillars of understanding someone's health.
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But if you think about it biologically, if people are struggling with libido, I don't have to know anything else.
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Just by them saying that I'm like, I know a whole bunch of things about their system.
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Because when you are feeling safe in your body, you are less stressed.
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When you are less stressed, all the other functions, happen.
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When your body is in a state of wellness.
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You have high libido, not excessive libido, but high libido.
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There's a difference between the two.
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Excessive libido is actually another issue.
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It's.
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Not balanced, right? But the average healthy person will want to have sex because that is the way we are biologically designed.
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Orgasms, in particular cervical orgasms, are one of the most beneficial things you can do to optimize your health and wellbeing.
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And.
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When you are in the process of getting healthy, your body's going to want to keep doing the things that actually make you healthy and that is having connection with people, having the energetic release, all the things.
343
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I mean, there's so many, there's so many things to why orgasms are so important for people.
344
00:37:26,888.395 --> 00:37:32,138.395
Even clitoral orgasms are great there too, but in particular, cervical orgasms.
345
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Like, you know, I'm not saying they're better, but they have a different purpose.
346
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Right.
347
00:37:38,988.395 --> 00:37:43,128.395
So it's like saying, you know, is your mouth better than your feet? You know? No.
348
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Like they have a different purpose.
349
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Right.
350
00:37:45,878.395 --> 00:37:53,433.395
You know? you know, one of the questions I get asked a lot is like, how do you find the time with teenagers life...
351
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To, to even connect with your husband? You know, how do you find the time? I was like, because I prioritize it because this is how I fill myself up.
352
00:38:04,103.394 --> 00:38:08,983.395
You know, it's great just going to the gym or working out or, you know, doing any, what you do.
353
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But.
354
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This has to become as important as those things.
355
00:38:13,13.395 --> 00:38:14,773.395
Sometimes it is a cervical orgasm.
356
00:38:15,343.394 --> 00:38:18,573.394
Not that we go in like that, but he knows that I need more time.
357
00:38:18,783.394 --> 00:38:20,3.395
It's more time for me.
358
00:38:21,228.395 --> 00:38:22,388.395
More time, maybe for him.
359
00:38:22,388.395 --> 00:38:39,278.395
Sometimes we've not got the time for both of us at the same time, you know, life is busy or how long before anyone comes back home, you know, what? Or then, we've got all afternoon, shall we spend some time? And, and then that's when, ooh, yeah, I really need that.
360
00:38:39,308.395 --> 00:38:45,88.395
So, you get to, by knowing your own body, for me, I get to gauge when and what I need.
361
00:38:45,338.394 --> 00:38:48,8.395
And sometimes it can be a blend of them all.
362
00:38:48,68.395 --> 00:38:53,678.295
It doesn't have to be, um, oh, we're gonna, you know, have a cervical orgasm.
363
00:38:53,678.395 --> 00:38:56,78.395
It can be a blend of all the different spots.
364
00:38:56,548.395 --> 00:38:59,948.395
And that can feel quite magical as well.
365
00:38:59,978.395 --> 00:39:02,808.395
And, um, enlivening.
366
00:39:02,808.395 --> 00:39:10,848.395
It's that kind of, there's a, there's a sense of peace that comes within the whole home as well.
367
00:39:10,848.395 --> 00:39:12,548.395
It's, it's like, there's a sense of peace.
368
00:39:12,598.395 --> 00:39:17,198.395
There's a sense of, um, peace that is infectious.
369
00:39:17,698.395 --> 00:39:39,3.395
It is, yeah, it is, which I'd love to, I'm smiling because I'd love to be there more often and then the next morning it's like, right, have you got this? Have you got this? And running around and doing, doing everything, but it just, it like brings the whole energy of the house to a level that's nice and relaxed.
370
00:39:39,3.395 --> 00:39:44,503.395
Which, um, as women, we have got that power to create that.
371
00:39:44,975.895 --> 00:39:49,680.895
Which we've never been taught that, have we? right.
372
00:39:50,10.895 --> 00:40:02,870.895
So one of the things that, as I, you know, as I mentioned, I think it's the traditional Chinese medicine where they use libido, but Yoni dearmoring is a really ancient practice, like a yoga, yoga practice.
373
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Thousands and thousands of years.
374
00:40:06,285.895 --> 00:40:19,785.895
And you know, there's, you know, Kama Sutra and different things where people kind of think it is, or they hear Tantra and they, they think it's a certain thing, right? Because that's the Western sexualized view of stuff.
375
00:40:20,115.895 --> 00:40:30,455.895
But when you go into the deep teachings of it, all of these different parts of the yoga traditions, they're all meant to work together for optimal health.
376
00:40:30,850.895 --> 00:40:31,300.895
Right.
377
00:40:31,730.895 --> 00:40:39,950.895
It's not that you should only do yoni dearmoring and not do all the other stuff, right? Or it's not that you should only do this and that.
378
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Not the other stuff, right? It's about, it's a practice that it's an integrated practice for health and wellbeing.
379
00:40:46,830.895 --> 00:40:58,300.895
And the, the Yoni dearmoring is basically, uh, you know, slowly massaging out the cervix and the Yoni is the word for the womb.
380
00:40:58,390.894 --> 00:41:03,60.894
It's an ancient practice for health and wellbeing for females.
381
00:41:03,420.894 --> 00:41:15,605.893
And it got lost, right? Now there, there were other traditions, not just the, the yoga one, but all the Western ones were basically, you know, shut down.
382
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So there used to be priestess temples where they would teach these practices to the women of the village.
383
00:41:22,45.894 --> 00:41:35,555.894
So they would learn how to keep their health and wellbeing, but, you know, that was a few few couple thousand years ago when they decided that the priestess temples were, uh, too distracting from the.
384
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The monotheistic viewpoint.
385
00:41:38,795.894 --> 00:41:42,285.894
And so that's when they started being targeted.
386
00:41:42,965.894 --> 00:41:56,975.894
Uh, but this was a part of, you know, of pretty much every ancient tradition was the understanding that the internal organs of the woman are important and essential and a place for.
387
00:41:57,360.894 --> 00:42:02,950.894
You know, deep spiritual connection to the self and, you know, to the other realm.
388
00:42:03,540.894 --> 00:42:04,170.894
It's interesting.
389
00:42:04,170.894 --> 00:42:11,260.894
If you think about it, like what the cervix is, the cervix is the pathway from, you know, the internal world to the external world.
390
00:42:12,70.893 --> 00:42:21,500.894
And one of the things that I found really interesting when I started going in to the energetic kind of connections to the different organs.
391
00:42:21,510.894 --> 00:42:23,810.894
So I learned about all different ones.
392
00:42:24,300.894 --> 00:42:26,990.894
One of the things about the cervix, cause we know it's the root.
393
00:42:27,380.894 --> 00:42:36,740.894
And like yoga, you hear the root, grounding, right? But it's also your place in society is really tied to the cervix or the prostate.
394
00:42:37,370.894 --> 00:42:43,980.893
And think about all the times women's place in society, their voice had to be shut down.
395
00:42:44,350.894 --> 00:42:45,640.894
It's no surprise.
396
00:42:45,920.894 --> 00:42:50,0.894
We have like a population full of numb cervixes.
397
00:42:50,780.894 --> 00:42:54,580.894
Yeah, yeah, we have work to do.
398
00:42:54,580.994 --> 00:42:55,890.894
We have work to do.
399
00:42:56,260.894 --> 00:43:03,560.894
And it's what I love about the work that I do, or the work, is that it meets women where they're at.
400
00:43:04,950.894 --> 00:43:10,260.894
And for anyone listening, and we're talking about, All these things.
401
00:43:10,300.894 --> 00:43:19,360.894
This has been a process for us to get here, you know, this is a process to get here and it's my mind that's gone blank now.
402
00:43:19,360.894 --> 00:43:19,990.894
That's so funny.
403
00:43:20,480.894 --> 00:43:24,700.8935
My perimenopause kicks in, but it is it's meet yourself where you're at.
404
00:43:24,700.8935 --> 00:43:26,670.893
I think that was my train of thought.
405
00:43:27,640.894 --> 00:43:33,990.894
I came in not through the yogic kind of tantric tradition.
406
00:43:34,780.894 --> 00:43:37,500.893
It's led me to find a teacher.
407
00:43:37,820.894 --> 00:43:41,230.894
I've worked with Michaela Bowen now, who's passing down the Celtic roots.
408
00:43:41,320.894 --> 00:43:49,560.994
I've worked with her, which, I've had a very safe journey into this work, um, which has always met me where I'm at.
409
00:43:49,760.994 --> 00:43:57,665.994
So I've always been able to explore for myself without any or imprints or anything, so that's been really good.
410
00:43:57,665.994 --> 00:44:11,725.994
I've really appreciated being safe with, with teachers, cause I know there's a lot of misinformation that can come through and a lot of abuse that's happened in some of the traditions that have come through in those.
411
00:44:12,445.994 --> 00:44:24,585.995
So you don't have to come through from there to feel safety in your body, you know, you can, it can be for every woman to, to, to arrive here.
412
00:44:25,145.995 --> 00:44:29,675.994
And I think the more these conversations happen...
413
00:44:30,105.994 --> 00:44:38,735.994
Cause I think even like, we, we joined together and then you go and check people's pages that, you know, go and I was like, Oh, I don't know enough.
414
00:44:38,835.994 --> 00:44:39,635.994
Oh, I don't know.
415
00:44:39,636.094 --> 00:44:46,15.994
And I was like, how to have this, this, this voice that comes in now that it's like, really, sure.
416
00:44:46,265.994 --> 00:44:55,829.3606667
Are you sure? You know, you, you know what, what your clients experience, you know, What your body's experienced, and that is enough to share.
417
00:44:55,829.3606667 --> 00:45:19,335.994
And so, just keep gathering all the information, and feeling what feels right for you, and learning from there, and taking it from there, and not to be I think one of the biggest things is, the myth is what sexual confidence looks like, you know? And It's a flavor to get dressed up in different ways.
418
00:45:19,755.994 --> 00:45:20,345.994
That's great.
419
00:45:20,585.994 --> 00:45:25,58.544
But you can also be very sexually confident in your tracksuit.
420
00:45:25,58.544 --> 00:45:33,605.994
You know, I was like, really? It's like, it comes from within these different areas to play with.
421
00:45:34,265.993 --> 00:45:40,715.994
But you feeling sexual confidence is something that only you can feel for yourself.
422
00:45:40,715.994 --> 00:45:42,275.994
It's not an outward image.
423
00:45:42,315.994 --> 00:45:43,100.894
It's not an outward thing.
424
00:45:44,180.994 --> 00:45:54,220.994
Yes, you can go and play, but that kind of inner feel, you know, that in a, in a confidence and I often get the lovely ice cream lady.
425
00:45:54,230.993 --> 00:45:57,690.993
It's like, I just saw you walking down the street and you was just glowing.
426
00:45:57,730.993 --> 00:46:01,0.994
I mean, and sometimes I don't feel like that.
427
00:46:01,885.994 --> 00:46:14,735.994
It's always interesting when I get those comments or you look really good as like, yeah It's usually when I give myself that time to explore pleasure Yes.
428
00:46:15,555.994 --> 00:46:20,305.994
I love that you brought up that it doesn't have to be through the yoga and tantric..
429
00:46:20,565.994 --> 00:46:22,715.994
That's actually not where I learned it.
430
00:46:23,415.994 --> 00:46:29,585.994
I learned it from a biological biological standpoint because I didn't feel connected to it.
431
00:46:29,615.994 --> 00:46:31,785.993
It wasn't my, my roots.
432
00:46:32,5.993 --> 00:46:35,405.994
I felt a little bit like, eh, I don't know.
433
00:46:35,405.994 --> 00:46:38,265.994
I just wasn't called like that's, that's not my mind.
434
00:46:38,265.994 --> 00:46:43,235.994
My mind's very, I'm a sci fi junkie neuroscience.
435
00:46:43,850.994 --> 00:46:45,960.994
Like give me a research paper.
436
00:46:46,300.994 --> 00:46:48,640.994
That's the kind of girl that I am.
437
00:46:49,200.994 --> 00:46:54,710.993
Telling me just to tell me to do something without explaining why does not work well for me.
438
00:46:54,900.993 --> 00:47:03,360.994
I know it does for some other people, but it's never been my, I'm not good at following directions just because you say I should do something.
439
00:47:04,555.994 --> 00:47:16,800.994
No, I and I appreciate that I think that's why we it's nice to to meet and get to know as well to understand Yeah, I really appreciate it Listening to some of your other podcasts.
440
00:47:16,880.994 --> 00:47:17,590.994
I've appreciated that.
441
00:47:19,800.994 --> 00:47:20,170.994
Yeah.
442
00:47:20,200.994 --> 00:47:21,340.994
I mean, I love the car.
443
00:47:21,420.994 --> 00:47:27,20.994
I love these conversations because You do explain what I am experiencing.
444
00:47:28,330.994 --> 00:47:28,730.994
Yeah.
445
00:47:28,731.094 --> 00:47:33,60.994
And know how to explain it scientifically.
446
00:47:35,210.994 --> 00:47:38,740.994
which I think is, is just such a wonderful, juicy conversation.
447
00:47:38,790.994 --> 00:47:49,100.994
Cause I can only explain it from as a busy frazzled mom with two teenagers in perimenopause, wanting to bring her relationship to life.
448
00:47:49,580.994 --> 00:47:53,100.994
I didn't even know that that was what was going on.
449
00:47:53,100.994 --> 00:47:57,650.994
Cause, um, when I joined the program, orgasmic confidence.
450
00:47:58,90.994 --> 00:48:03,750.994
And I didn't, I just wanted more confidence because I couldn't be more visible on social media.
451
00:48:03,750.994 --> 00:48:07,300.994
And I couldn't get my, you know, that story.
452
00:48:07,740.993 --> 00:48:09,930.994
I was like, Oh, we'll just go in and I need a bit more confidence.
453
00:48:10,0.994 --> 00:48:13,200.994
I need to speak, be able to speak more because it feels very cut off.
454
00:48:13,500.994 --> 00:48:16,340.994
Like I see a lot of people sharing what I know.
455
00:48:16,390.994 --> 00:48:20,510.994
Why can't I do so? We'll just join this for some confidence.
456
00:48:20,511.094 --> 00:48:25,570.994
And then I was like, what, why have we not been taught? You know.
457
00:48:25,880.994 --> 00:48:30,610.994
Then there was like all this rage and then, um, it was great home play.
458
00:48:30,730.994 --> 00:48:32,260.994
I think it was one of the courses my.
459
00:48:32,905.994 --> 00:48:36,525.994
My husband was like, um, yeah, yeah.
460
00:48:38,465.994 --> 00:48:42,495.994
One of his favorite quotes is like, we've got pussy coming out the printer now.
461
00:48:42,545.994 --> 00:48:51,175.995
Cause every time I print something off, it was more, um, you know, this joint printer in the office, which was quite amusing.
462
00:48:51,265.993 --> 00:49:05,950.994
So it become where, you know, I mean, so even go and say, Oh, To tell him, I bought a cervical wand from, you know, a cervical glass Oh yeah.
463
00:49:06,630.994 --> 00:49:11,890.994
And I was like, how am I going to share this with him? Cause I'd explored it with myself.
464
00:49:11,990.994 --> 00:49:12,940.994
I'd had this amazing experience.
465
00:49:13,516.094 --> 00:49:19,285.994
How the hell, you know, and I did, it was messy.
466
00:49:19,345.994 --> 00:49:23,165.994
It was not, you know, it's not how I wanted it to be.
467
00:49:23,195.994 --> 00:49:27,785.994
And, but now it's just part of our, um, our connection together.
468
00:49:28,265.994 --> 00:49:32,885.994
And so it, and it always reminds me when I, when I think I can.
469
00:49:33,610.994 --> 00:49:35,630.994
voice something or share something.
470
00:49:35,940.994 --> 00:49:41,740.993
Well, you voiced that you wanted to use the glass wand so you can voice anything you want, Nicola.
471
00:49:41,740.994 --> 00:49:47,840.994
You know, it's like, do you remember how you felt in that moment? Like, Oh, I'll have to hide that from him.
472
00:49:47,840.994 --> 00:49:50,400.993
And I don't know, you don't want to hide things.
473
00:49:50,410.993 --> 00:49:55,280.993
So I do have another one that's specially for me, but that's another story.
474
00:49:57,640.994 --> 00:49:59,690.993
Uh, we all get to keep our little secrets.
475
00:49:59,750.993 --> 00:49:59,980.993
Yeah.
476
00:50:01,760.994 --> 00:50:15,735.993
Um, I love that there, that you're out there, that I'm out there, that there's More and more women that are out there talking because you know, not everyone's going to want to work with me and not everyone's going to want to work with you and, or the next person.
477
00:50:16,55.994 --> 00:50:20,645.994
We need more and more voices, more and more people out there sharing their experiences.
478
00:50:21,85.994 --> 00:50:25,345.994
So that way the people that really do connect with them can find them and work with them.
479
00:50:25,345.994 --> 00:50:28,455.994
Like I, you know, I do work with couples.
480
00:50:28,515.994 --> 00:50:34,500.994
Mostly I work with couples who are looking to, you know, There's actually two parts to it.
481
00:50:35,80.994 --> 00:50:47,420.994
I have, I work with men who often have some form of either like porn addiction or kink or fetish that maybe doesn't serve them well, like there's no, to me, there's no shame in it.
482
00:50:47,420.994 --> 00:50:47,710.994
Right.
483
00:50:47,960.994 --> 00:50:52,800.993
But you know, sometimes we have habits that maybe aren't so useful for us.
484
00:50:52,890.993 --> 00:50:53,140.993
Right.
485
00:50:53,490.993 --> 00:51:00,375.894
And so I work with them to help them develop, you know, a different way that they feel, you know, comfortable.
486
00:51:00,995.994 --> 00:51:04,215.994
Is more aligned with who they are or whether their position is.
487
00:51:04,265.994 --> 00:51:07,865.994
So sometimes the men will have something that that's going on.
488
00:51:07,865.994 --> 00:51:08,195.994
Right.
489
00:51:08,445.994 --> 00:51:12,55.994
Uh, most of the couples that I work with are heteronormative.
490
00:51:12,75.994 --> 00:51:16,345.993
Not all of them, but that's, you know, a big, that is a big portion of them.
491
00:51:16,565.994 --> 00:51:16,925.994
Right.
492
00:51:16,985.994 --> 00:51:24,315.994
Or that they're opening up their relationship and they're exploring things and still working on the communication aspect.
493
00:51:25,45.994 --> 00:51:30,620.994
And then the vast majority of the other clients I have are women that are not partnered.
494
00:51:31,110.994 --> 00:51:40,590.993
And so much of the work that, you know, I see a lot of people out there like in the relationships and they teach this work from a perspective of being partnered.
495
00:51:40,870.994 --> 00:51:53,20.994
And it leaves out so many women who aren't partnered, you know, are like, well, how do I, how do I do this on my own? Do I have to wait to experience pleasure and have Right.
496
00:51:53,300.994 --> 00:51:54,960.994
Connection until I'm in a partner.
497
00:51:54,970.994 --> 00:52:02,110.9935
And so nothing wrong with it because like people who are partnered, you're going to have a different perspective than people who are single.
498
00:52:02,110.9935 --> 00:52:04,330.994
And I just, I think it's so important.
499
00:52:04,630.994 --> 00:52:08,300.994
It doesn't matter who you are, where you are, what your circumstances are.
500
00:52:08,300.994 --> 00:52:12,360.994
There's going to be someone that you can find to work with.
501
00:52:12,370.994 --> 00:52:16,860.994
That's gonna help you, you know, create this connection for yourself.
502
00:52:17,655.994 --> 00:52:22,245.994
And I think, I think some of that comes down to who's your niche as well.
503
00:52:22,305.994 --> 00:52:28,865.994
You know, I do work with women that are single and the single in their later in fifties, you know, they're single in later life.
504
00:52:29,765.993 --> 00:52:43,170.994
And, um, and whoever comes to work, which I'm sure you say the same, whoever comes to work with me, we always start with you and the self anyway, before we go into the, you know, the That comes later.
505
00:52:43,610.994 --> 00:53:05,340.994
It's like, it's, the thing I guess to look out for to working with someone is do you feel safe? Do you, do you feel safe with them? Do you feel you can trust them? you know, does your body trust being with that person? Cause you're going to, as you, I love the name, Wendy goes deep because, um, you're going to go deep with this work.
506
00:53:05,950.994 --> 00:53:08,750.993
It is, it is confronting that is resistance.
507
00:53:08,751.093 --> 00:53:11,710.933
You know, my goodness, there is resistance to doing it.
508
00:53:11,710.933 --> 00:53:15,820.993
Um, and that's why we fill ourselves up being busy with time.
509
00:53:15,850.993 --> 00:53:22,860.993
We've not got time for pleasure because it's easier to not have time for pleasure than go deep and look at some of the root causes.
510
00:53:24,655.994 --> 00:53:26,265.994
that block us from our pleasure.
511
00:53:26,775.994 --> 00:53:47,795.994
And then when you add this kind of conversation into it as well it's um and sometimes it's this myth that the USA is further on than the UK and you know I'm beginning to like Not tell myself that, and that the UK is quite open.
512
00:53:47,795.994 --> 00:53:51,315.994
I put like the British up a stiffer lip kind of thing.
513
00:53:51,315.994 --> 00:53:52,365.994
We don't talk about those things.
514
00:53:52,366.094 --> 00:53:57,755.894
Yeah, yeah.
515
00:53:58,500.994 --> 00:54:04,450.994
There's plenty of people who are super uncomfortable when I introduce myself as an orgasm and neuro pleasure coach.
516
00:54:04,450.994 --> 00:54:07,310.993
And they're like, I'm going to go over there.
517
00:54:08,130.993 --> 00:54:16,135.994
And then the other people are like, really? You I'll share a quick, very quick story.
518
00:54:16,355.994 --> 00:54:19,465.994
I was invited into a co working event.
519
00:54:19,915.994 --> 00:54:21,705.994
So this was post COVID.
520
00:54:21,875.994 --> 00:54:24,545.994
Hadn't been out of the house, you know, been through all this.
521
00:54:27,210.994 --> 00:54:29,890.994
Just not been in a working environment for this long.
522
00:54:29,960.994 --> 00:54:33,970.994
So I go in and I was like, yeah, I'll do the lightning talk.
523
00:54:33,980.994 --> 00:54:36,980.994
I'll talk about, you know, cervical orgasms.
524
00:54:37,60.994 --> 00:54:39,360.993
And this woman was like, yeah, come, come.
525
00:54:39,880.993 --> 00:54:42,550.994
And when I got there, there was men there.
526
00:54:43,25.994 --> 00:54:51,655.994
And I was, I was like, talk about jumping off the diving board in the, you know, jumping in at the deep end.
527
00:54:51,725.994 --> 00:54:57,385.994
I was like, I could have warmed up to, you know, I'm not a great public speaker or on stage.
528
00:54:57,385.994 --> 00:55:04,575.894
That's one of my fears that hopefully can overcome, you know, small groups or one to one I'm good at.
529
00:55:05,765.994 --> 00:55:06,105.994
No.
530
00:55:06,135.994 --> 00:55:27,735.994
So I was like, Oh, I'm just going to run for the door and then I did the lightning talk, um, come back into my, but went to the toilets, come back into my body and did all the things that I needed to do and then went out and everyone was just like, And it was the men that came up to speak to me after.
531
00:55:27,735.994 --> 00:55:28,895.994
Thank you for sharing.
532
00:55:28,955.994 --> 00:55:31,25.994
That will be really helpful to know.
533
00:55:31,26.094 --> 00:55:37,405.993
And, and, and it was like, yeah, this conversation, it just needs to be the norm.
534
00:55:37,715.994 --> 00:55:39,425.994
You know, I think that's what we're trying to say.
535
00:55:39,425.994 --> 00:55:53,790.994
Isn't it? know, there's something about that, what you said right now that I have to get this message again, I will say it a gazillion times, you know, how we keep talking about it starts with safety with yourself.
536
00:55:54,190.994 --> 00:56:03,750.994
And one of the, when I work with men or partners or partners of females, one thing that we start with is safety.
537
00:56:04,165.994 --> 00:56:29,995.994
Kind of helping them and guiding them on how to have that help their partner feel safe if you start there if you learn Nothing else except for how to have your partner feel safe your partner's body will know what to do and and it's not that you know, Especially when you're when you start talking about this With people like, Oh, I feel safe with my partner.
538
00:56:29,995.994 --> 00:56:32,45.994
You know, Oh, there's, I'm not scared of my partner.
539
00:56:32,285.994 --> 00:56:33,345.994
It's not about that.
540
00:56:33,685.994 --> 00:56:42,235.994
It is the, the wiring and the messages throughout the, the female's life that they're not safe is still there.
541
00:56:42,245.993 --> 00:56:56,700.994
It hasn't, it has nothing to do with the kindness or the gentleness or the, you know, whatever of the partner that they're with, it's about helping that female's body to rewire towards safety.
542
00:56:57,60.994 --> 00:57:13,220.994
And then once you're safe, then you can move towards pleasure and it requires that safety first before you move towards pleasure, because if you're not safe, you're on alert and it doesn't matter what you say, what you do, how safe you actually are as the partner.
543
00:57:13,650.993 --> 00:57:20,990.994
If the, if your partner doesn't feel safe, they're not going to experience those, those deeper orgasms.
544
00:57:21,180.994 --> 00:57:24,730.894
It, you know, No, my, my, my, my part.
545
00:57:27,330.994 --> 00:57:29,320.994
I don't know what more else I can do.
546
00:57:29,770.994 --> 00:57:33,480.994
You know, it was like, have a good relationship.
547
00:57:33,570.994 --> 00:57:35,740.994
I have a good man and he's like, I don't know what.
548
00:57:37,65.994 --> 00:57:58,215.994
It was just baffled, like, and like you say, it can be a history, you know, I was in the, you know, I had quite a party girl name and liked dancing and, you know, Ibiza and I've had my own stories that I've carried, but also that imprint and lineage that is run through us.
549
00:57:58,685.994 --> 00:58:07,725.994
You know, the epigenetics that, the history of the fear of men running through our bodies can, that fear can still be present.
550
00:58:07,755.993 --> 00:58:13,615.994
So it might not even be ours, you know, it might not even be ours, the story that's running through us.
551
00:58:14,715.993 --> 00:58:20,805.993
So healing your lineage and healing way, way, way back is going to take time.
552
00:58:21,795.994 --> 00:58:46,545.994
So, yeah, it's a great, great that you're sharing that with men, because it's not them in the room, it wasn't the men in the room, it was, it was the history of what, you know, the stories that I've been told, like, you don't talk about this in front of men even, kind of thing, so, yeah, there's a reason for me sharing that story, because it could just, like, come through at the end, so, yeah.
553
00:58:48,360.994 --> 00:58:49,90.994
Exactly.
554
00:58:49,440.994 --> 00:58:59,480.994
Um, yeah, it's, it, it, it's interesting because as you know, in general, the process is actually quite simple.
555
00:58:59,810.994 --> 00:59:00,920.994
What needs to happen.
556
00:59:01,460.994 --> 00:59:01,990.994
Yeah.
557
00:59:02,35.994 --> 00:59:18,644.805
And it feels, I, I, I remember when I started learning about these different things and going, eh, but really, is that really going to make a difference? Because like, do you know how screwed up I actually am? Right.
558
00:59:18,644.805 --> 00:59:26,245.994
How can like this little simple practice really work? Like there's some major trauma that needs to be unraveled here.
559
00:59:26,245.994 --> 00:59:30,175.994
Like there's no way this simple practice can have that big of an impact.
560
00:59:30,745.994 --> 00:59:34,580.994
And Oh my God, is it life changing? It is.
561
00:59:35,80.994 --> 00:59:35,550.994
It is.
562
00:59:36,35.994 --> 00:59:54,715.994
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure because I get, you know, after that event, I was like, why did I put myself through that? Do you know why the sweats and the, but you know, why do we keep finding a way to share this message when it's uncomfortable? It's confronting, um, at times.
563
00:59:55,210.994 --> 01:00:03,50.994
You know, for me, at times, it really, it really has been and what it brings up for other people, for other women.
564
01:00:03,690.993 --> 01:00:12,470.994
Um, I've had to go, that's been a barrier to go through and we just know how important it is to keep sharing it and demystifying.
565
01:00:13,310.993 --> 01:00:14,310.994
Oh, she's a pleasure.
566
01:00:14,440.994 --> 01:00:19,84.3606667
Oh, you know, you know, she's an orgasm.
567
01:00:19,84.3606667 --> 01:00:21,840.994
And it's like, can we just like.
568
01:00:22,250.994 --> 01:00:28,750.994
Look at it from another perspective and they, and I, I often hear like, Oh, I'm okay.
569
01:00:28,750.994 --> 01:00:29,270.994
I'm good.
570
01:00:29,620.994 --> 01:00:33,30.9935
I'm like, which, you know, no judgment here on any of it.
571
01:00:33,30.9935 --> 01:00:37,510.993
Cause I've been there and then it's, we've never been shed, but there's more.
572
01:00:37,900.994 --> 01:00:45,520.993
There is always more to female pleasure or women's men's, you know, there's always more.
573
01:00:46,235.994 --> 01:00:47,795.994
Always more for the men as well.
574
01:00:47,795.994 --> 01:00:52,445.994
It's not just, you know, it's just, we've been squashed down so much.
575
01:00:52,445.994 --> 01:01:05,765.894
It's like, it feels like revolutionary kind of thing, but it isn't by me being more connected to my pleasure, the effect that it's had or the ripple effects that it has.
576
01:01:06,405.994 --> 01:01:10,525.994
Um, in different relationships, like, because it's very hard.
577
01:01:10,535.994 --> 01:01:15,395.994
So a lot of my works, how we start with the heart, you know, a lot of heart centered love.
578
01:01:15,395.994 --> 01:01:22,545.994
And yeah, there's a lot of time there for people and just.
579
01:01:22,960.994 --> 01:01:27,20.994
How it can, I've had great conversations with my mum now about it.
580
01:01:27,310.994 --> 01:01:54,800.994
Ooh, she could be on stage talking about it, but ooh, and then don't tell me anymore, you know, it was like, don't, don't talk about it anymore, but, um, yeah, be curious to see how more women connected to different levels of pleasure, it's always more how, what, what changed for that, for the whole of the world, but for the whole of our societies, how.
581
01:01:54,956.094 --> 01:02:00,115.994
I want to turn it the other way around from the direction it's been going in.
582
01:02:00,435.994 --> 01:02:06,865.994
It's like, what, what would that be for the You know, I'm going to bring in biology again.
583
01:02:12,545.994 --> 01:02:17,265.993
I always say the best gift you can give the world is to learn how to regulate your nervous system.
584
01:02:18,135.993 --> 01:02:20,695.995
We know this instinctively as parents.
585
01:02:21,915.994 --> 01:02:25,945.994
When you are in a calm state, your kids are in a calm state.
586
01:02:26,440.994 --> 01:02:27,900.994
We know this with everybody.
587
01:02:28,30.994 --> 01:02:32,310.994
If someone's freaking out around you, if you can stay calm, they're going to be less freaked out.
588
01:02:32,320.994 --> 01:02:35,320.994
If you react, they're going to be more freaked out.
589
01:02:36,230.993 --> 01:02:39,380.994
And this is how humans work.
590
01:02:39,410.994 --> 01:02:40,850.994
This is actually not just humans.
591
01:02:40,860.994 --> 01:02:41,940.994
This is how mammals work.
592
01:02:41,940.994 --> 01:02:43,630.993
It's called a social engagement system.
593
01:02:43,630.993 --> 01:02:46,600.994
And we connect with the other mammals around us.
594
01:02:47,140.994 --> 01:02:57,280.994
And the practice Of the cervical orgasm, of the yoni dearmouring, of the, the, the self massage of the slowing down, creating safety.
595
01:02:58,130.994 --> 01:03:02,350.994
We are teaching ourselves how to regulate our nervous system.
596
01:03:02,870.994 --> 01:03:11,460.994
And when you have a regulated nervous system, you show up differently in the world, not just in the bedroom in the world.
597
01:03:11,800.994 --> 01:03:16,20.994
It is honestly the best gift you can give the world.
598
01:03:16,30.994 --> 01:03:28,570.994
Like if you're feel, if someone's listening to this or watching this and you're going, should I do this? Can I not, you know, like, is this really the right thing for me to do? It is a gift for the world.
599
01:03:28,900.994 --> 01:03:35,340.993
If you learn how to regulate your nervous system, how to connect with your body and stay present in your body.
600
01:03:35,900.994 --> 01:03:37,450.994
That is one of the best gifts.
601
01:03:38,880.994 --> 01:03:39,360.994
It is.
602
01:03:39,720.993 --> 01:03:44,820.994
It is because it just feels like we don't want to all be just learning these tools to stay regulated.
603
01:03:45,540.994 --> 01:03:50,310.994
There's more chaos out there, you know, so it does need to grow.
604
01:03:50,670.994 --> 01:03:54,760.994
It does need to grow so we can all be in that different space.
605
01:03:54,770.994 --> 01:03:59,460.994
So, yeah, but that's I have to really bring it back to the self because it blows my mind.
606
01:04:00,870.994 --> 01:04:01,700.994
When I'm.
607
01:04:01,955.994 --> 01:04:06,75.994
That, that journey of worrying about everyone and everything all the time.
608
01:04:06,195.994 --> 01:04:15,745.994
Um, yeah, I've, I've just journeyed through that, but it's, it's, it's how, how important it is.
609
01:04:16,405.993 --> 01:04:17,295.994
It's how important.
610
01:04:18,880.994 --> 01:04:25,940.994
I mean, think about some of the things that you have said here today about what it was like before you were really hard on yourself.
611
01:04:26,240.994 --> 01:04:27,140.994
You were stressed.
612
01:04:27,250.994 --> 01:04:32,650.994
You were wondering if you can even, how you're going to even stay in your relationship.
613
01:04:32,650.994 --> 01:04:52,85.993
Maybe sitting, you said it's sitting on the steps, you know, like how can I handle life, like just being frazzled and all of those things that, you know, are not pleasurable, And having really like, I think it was like, well, what else do you want? You know, you've got a lovely home.
614
01:04:52,85.993 --> 01:04:56,855.993
You've got, you, you've got everything, everything at hand.
615
01:04:57,285.993 --> 01:04:59,565.993
You've got all the means to do things and.
616
01:05:00,425.994 --> 01:05:08,815.994
You know, what is going on, especially with what was going on in the world and, and you're still not, that was another layer of guilt on myself.
617
01:05:10,30.994 --> 01:05:18,215.994
And then that the cervical orgasm has taken that feeling away.
618
01:05:19,70.994 --> 01:05:21,470.994
it's a regulated nervous system.
619
01:05:22,320.994 --> 01:05:22,610.994
That's.
620
01:05:23,630.994 --> 01:05:33,790.993
It is an, an, unlike say, you know, a breath work session where you're, you know, do a group breath work session.
621
01:05:33,790.994 --> 01:05:51,850.994
Remember once again, getting trained, not talking bad about breath work, right? You know, you're in a group breath work session and you're, you know, you're regulating, you're feeling in your body and you're releasing and you're making all of the, doing all of the things to help regulate your nervous system.
622
01:05:51,850.994 --> 01:05:51,920.994
Okay.
623
01:05:52,205.994 --> 01:05:57,775.994
And it's amazing because it's such an amazing tool and modality to be able to do that.
624
01:05:58,295.994 --> 01:06:01,15.994
However, it's not always accessible to everybody.
625
01:06:01,575.994 --> 01:06:12,65.995
Not everyone can go to these like retreats or go set aside a 90 minute breathwork session, you know, with an individual or group or, you know, the drive time and you're a busy mom.
626
01:06:13,265.995 --> 01:06:30,925.995
If you can have this practice that you can incorporate into your life, it has the same kind of benefits except for the added benefit of truly creating safety within yourself, learning the different nuances of how your body works.
627
01:06:30,985.994 --> 01:06:40,565.995
So you're not having to depend on the breath work session or depend on going to the gym or to the retreat or to the, you know, the meditation class.
628
01:06:41,485.995 --> 01:06:53,890.995
Bringing those, those little those little habits and positioning of your body and learning, you know, there's little things that you just learn about yourself.
629
01:06:53,910.995 --> 01:07:04,280.995
Like, oh, it feels better when I bring my shoulders back to here and not all the way to here or, you know, or I like it when I go slow over here.
630
01:07:04,750.995 --> 01:07:23,640.994
And then when you're able, if you are partnered and you're able to bring that practice in with your partner, you know, two hours with your partner where you're both getting a regulated nervous system versus, you know, you having to go there and them going to go there and maybe still not regulated together.
631
01:07:24,190.994 --> 01:07:32,870.994
I don't call me crazy, but I think regulating your nervous system together is a really good thing to help keep a marriage together.
632
01:07:33,625.995 --> 01:07:46,315.995
Yeah, and it's, it's, it was never a third option out there, you know, it's not, it was never something that I even could consider, you know, like relationship therapy.
633
01:07:46,975.994 --> 01:07:49,855.995
I don't know even if that was something we needed.
634
01:07:50,930.995 --> 01:07:51,500.995
Clearly not.
635
01:07:51,520.995 --> 01:08:05,330.995
Cause I always say we're work in progress, even after 20 years, you know, but I'm glad you've mentioned like the going on retreats and going on workshops and going, cause I think I would go to those days.
636
01:08:07,190.995 --> 01:08:15,750.995
And then come back and like want everything to change and like, it was like taking you to like a peak and then coming back down.
637
01:08:15,790.995 --> 01:08:21,160.995
And so this is like these really simple practices and, you know, five minutes a day.
638
01:08:21,190.995 --> 01:08:30,510.995
I mean, I do one of my, if I've not had time while the conditioners in my hair in the shower, I can do an embodiment practice and just while the conditioners on.
639
01:08:30,860.995 --> 01:08:35,60.995
So it's not like I've got to get myself to like, say a studio and a workout.
640
01:08:35,130.995 --> 01:08:35,150.995
Yeah.
641
01:08:35,935.995 --> 01:09:04,515.995
That, that having to do something for something, this is, it's like finding a practice, I think with anything that you do, finding a practice that you love and enjoy, can show up for, and you can do, and it's the, the practice my teacher Steve always says with me, to us, is it's the practice that you do every day, not the one hour session every week, or the retreats you go, and it's those little things that you do in between.
642
01:09:05,325.995 --> 01:09:07,725.995
And yeah, that's, Yeah.
643
01:09:07,725.995 --> 01:09:18,15.994
If you just, if you just add it up, if you start, so like part of what I, I work with people, so I have ADHD.
644
01:09:18,885.995 --> 01:09:23,445.995
I was, even though I'm talking fast now, believe it or not, I used to talk even faster.
645
01:09:23,485.995 --> 01:09:31,945.995
I was just, I could not even focus necessarily to have really good deep conversations because I was always thinking about what I was going to say next.
646
01:09:32,795.995 --> 01:09:41,815.995
And these little practices That you, I started bringing in, you know, to my existence and they're out there.
647
01:09:41,815.995 --> 01:09:47,125.995
Like, it's not like I have like the magic bullet that, you know, magic, wait, magic bullet.
648
01:09:48,345.995 --> 01:09:48,995.995
That's a different topic.
649
01:09:48,996.095 --> 01:09:55,325.995
Uh, but all of these little.
650
01:09:55,540.995 --> 01:10:11,860.994
Kind of pieces that while you're in the shower, while you're getting ready into the shower, while you're in the bathroom by yourself, while you're driving, while you're making your coffee, right? Learning how to bring pleasure, pleasure, not necessarily sex, but just pleasure into your life.
651
01:10:11,920.995 --> 01:10:25,690.995
Moments of noticing you start cultivating a practice, a genuine practice of pleasure that accumulates to way more than spending two hours in meditation.
652
01:10:26,970.995 --> 01:10:27,320.995
Throughout the day.
653
01:10:27,365.994 --> 01:10:29,235.994
And it closes that gap.
654
01:10:29,235.995 --> 01:10:37,985.995
So then when for myself or like clients that are in couples, if that gap's closer, you've got more access.
655
01:10:38,541.095 --> 01:10:53,210.995
It doesn't take as long, because I think sometimes it's like, you know, sex with a partner becomes a chore, because it takes too long to relax into it, and they've not got time for that.
656
01:10:53,470.994 --> 01:11:02,810.994
But if you're doing the practice during the day and noticing what your body feels, you know, when you said about the shoulders, one of my first things was chopping carrots.
657
01:11:03,51.095 --> 01:11:04,620.995
at home cooking.
658
01:11:04,621.095 --> 01:11:13,590.994
I was like, why, why am I chopping carrots? Like someone's going to come and run in with a gun and like, you know, or come and just attack me.
659
01:11:15,590.995 --> 01:11:18,100.995
And so I've been holding my shoulders like that.
660
01:11:19,280.994 --> 01:11:28,180.995
So you begin to notice the practice, you begin to notice in everyday life, you know, you begin to, to notice like, why, why I wouldn't have noticed that.
661
01:11:29,330.995 --> 01:11:32,800.995
And then wondering why this is all tense and crutched up.
662
01:11:33,110.995 --> 01:11:39,110.995
Whereas now it's um, you know, I thought it was just chopping, just chopping carrots.
663
01:11:40,330.995 --> 01:11:43,845.995
So, yeah, it's It's those little practices.
664
01:11:44,965.995 --> 01:11:45,335.995
Yep.
665
01:11:45,525.995 --> 01:11:58,55.995
And then when you get to combine them with the, you know, the wild women retreats or the breath work or the, the different things that you do to like bring more health and wellness, it just.
666
01:11:58,980.995 --> 01:12:07,200.995
Those simple practices just create a better foundation to for wellness, right? Like the, it's all of it put together.
667
01:12:07,200.995 --> 01:12:16,630.994
Like there's not, it's not one thing, right? We need to look at all these aspects of ourself and you know, the cervix is a body part.
668
01:12:17,390.995 --> 01:12:20,610.995
You wouldn't ignore, you know, your elbow.
669
01:12:20,660.995 --> 01:12:27,140.995
I mean, maybe we, we do ignore elbows, you know, but, um, but we noticed them and we're You can, scared to talk about them.
670
01:12:27,150.995 --> 01:12:30,304.795
We're not, you know, like, Exactly.
671
01:12:30,304.795 --> 01:12:31,343.495
Yeah.
672
01:12:31,345.995 --> 01:12:34,355.995
just exploring your elbow with touch.
673
01:12:34,995.995 --> 01:12:40,209.658
That could be the first place and spending some time with the touch and self regulation.
674
01:12:40,209.658 --> 01:12:40,840.549
Me too.
675
01:12:40,840.549 --> 01:12:41,890.995
No, we Yep.
676
01:12:42,250.995 --> 01:12:48,530.995
Um, well, I, I don't know about you, but I've very much enjoyed this conversation today.
677
01:12:53,285.995 --> 01:12:55,405.995
it's been really, um, gorgeous.
678
01:12:55,945.995 --> 01:12:57,615.995
connection and combination.
679
01:12:57,625.995 --> 01:13:21,245.994
I hope anyone listening gets as much out, gets as much enjoyment out of listening as we have, as I am, um, sharing, sharing my, my very, we, our very personal stories, you know, that, um, it is a bit easier to share one to one, which will reach many people, but it's easier than standing on the stage for now.
680
01:13:22,80.995 --> 01:13:22,270.995
Yes.
681
01:13:23,380.995 --> 01:13:27,930.994
If people want to learn more about you, follow you, all that good stuff.
682
01:13:27,940.995 --> 01:13:36,775.995
How do they find you? So yeah, on social media, I'm on Instagram, Nicola Parish, Pleasure Coach or Facebook just as Nicola Parish.
683
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And then I have got a freebie of a, you know, from Frazzle to Freedom meditation for any of your listeners, if they wanted to listen to that so they can connect and stay connected on there.
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But yeah, or drop me a message in any of the socials and let me know, let me know how, how it's going.
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That'd be great.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Well, thank you so much for coming on and keep spreading the good word and work and doing what you're doing, girl, because the world needs it.
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much.
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Thanks for having me.
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I'm sure hopefully, you know, we get to go deeper on, on what's next and I'm sure we could talk about this all day.
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Thank you for joining for today's episode.
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I hope you found the conversation interesting, maybe even a little inspiring.
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And if you're curious about how to work with our guest today, check out the show notes, because I'll have all the links and resources there.
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And if you're curious about how to work with me or what I offer, you can check out my website, wendygoesdeep.Com
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to learn more about what it is that I do.
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And I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you for a little favor, growing this community.
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is only possible with support from people like you.
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If you could take a moment to like, subscribe, or maybe even share it with a friend, it helps more than you know.
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And until we can go deep again, stay curious and keep exploring.