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May 19, 2025 42 mins

Diehard Cleveland Cavaliers fan and creative powerhouse, Abra Said is a self-professed eternal optimist. But that doesn’t mean her path has turned out as she expected. On this episode of Why is Nobody Talking About This?, Abra and Kim discuss loss, the challenges of making new friends as adults, and financial security as a creative person.

 

THIS CONVERSATION COVERS

+ Holding firm with boundaries when your work seems “fun”

+ The profound impact and imprint of loss

+ Celebrating platonic love as much as romantic love

+ What we get wrong about people without kids

+ How we can unknowingly lose ourselves in marriage and parenthood and why that’s such a risk

+ The awkwardness of making new friends as an adult

+ Starting something new and being okay with the uncertainty of it

+ Having enough and still wanting more—money, work, friends, and opportunities

 

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You can find Abra on her newly launched, beautiful website and on Instagram.

 

For more about The Bench, a community for women who love their work but want it to come at less of a cost, visit kimwensel.com/thebench.

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