November 18, 2025 • 27 mins
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Kevin Tejada:
So Lizzo lost a buttload of weight, pun intended. If you don't know, (00:28):
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Kevin Tejada: Lizzo is a pop music artist. (00:33):
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Kevin Tejada: I think it's pop. Pop just means popular, so I don't know. (00:36):
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Kevin Tejada: And famously, she's known, she has been known to be round. So the fact that (00:40):
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Kevin Tejada: she's lost a bunch of weight recently is interesting. (00:45):
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Kevin Tejada: But Kevin, if you don't listen to the music, how the fuck would you know this? (00:48):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, basically, I was just researching what people have been searching for (00:52):
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Kevin Tejada: in regards to weight loss. and I see, well, Lizzo, weight loss, Lizzo, weight loss. (00:56):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm thinking, what's going on over here? (00:59):
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Kevin Tejada: She was weight. Thank God. My girlfriend has called me fat phobic as a joke (01:03):
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Kevin Tejada: because I myself have lost a hundred pounds and I bring up Lizzo's weight whenever (01:08):
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Kevin Tejada: she comes up saying, hey, did she lose weight yet? (01:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Not because I hate fat people, because being that obese is not great. (01:17):
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Kevin Tejada: And she's apparently lost a bunch Now my first (01:22):
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Kevin Tejada: thought was Oh she used OZEMPIC of (01:25):
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Kevin Tejada: course That's what everyone's doing these days So I (01:28):
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Kevin Tejada: looked into it And she did at least at the beginning (01:31):
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Kevin Tejada: But then she said Hey this (01:34):
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Kevin Tejada: basically just causes A caloric deficit (01:36):
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Kevin Tejada: So if I can do that myself it's gonna be better overall No (01:40):
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Kevin Tejada: bad side effects So assuming this is true And she's not secretly taking drugs (01:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Then that's fucking badass and I commend that so I'm going to use this as a (01:49):
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Kevin Tejada: kind of frame to discuss natural weight loss versus drugs drug weight loss maybe surgery one we'll see. (01:55):
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Kevin Tejada: Liposuction is something people totally forgot about once once the Zempick and (02:03):
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Kevin Tejada: we go we got popular what's lipo? fuck that. (02:08):
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Kevin Tejada: So here's the thing, you can lose weight naturally, or you can lose it through (02:12):
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Kevin Tejada: drugs and surgery. I would say unnaturally. (02:16):
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Kevin Tejada: There are costs to both. Both can work. I think there's a clear winner here because I'm biased. (02:20):
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Kevin Tejada: I lost 100 pounds through nutrition and exercise. (02:27):
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Kevin Tejada: If you told teenage me, hey, you can just inject this a bit or whatever and (02:31):
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Kevin Tejada: then lose weight without effort, who knows what I would have done? (02:35):
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Kevin Tejada: Maybe that would have sounded great to me. So I'm glad I never had the option (02:38):
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Kevin Tejada: because I learned doing it, in my opinion, spoiler alert, I prefer the natural (02:42):
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Kevin Tejada: way because once you know that, once you know what to do, once you gain that (02:46):
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Kevin Tejada: knowledge through experience. (02:51):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, it's really hard for you to get overweight again. (02:53):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, a lot of people do, but in my opinion, once you go through that, (02:55):
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Kevin Tejada: you know what it takes to get to that point. (02:59):
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Kevin Tejada: You know what it takes to lose all that weight. You know what it's going to (03:03):
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Kevin Tejada: take mentally to go through that journey again. you know how it works. (03:06):
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Kevin Tejada: It's a difference between hiring a plumber to come fix your stuff or learning how pipes work. (03:11):
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Kevin Tejada: Now that pipe situation is not really going to be something that gives you diabetes, right? (03:17):
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Kevin Tejada: But yeah, ideally it'd be great if you could just have that knowledge yourself, right? (03:22):
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Kevin Tejada: That's why I prefer natural weight loss. So if you work in tech, (03:28):
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Kevin Tejada: especially You're sitting down all day You're sifting through you know code (03:32):
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Kevin Tejada: blocks Systems policies All this shit For probably 7 to 10 hours a day. (03:36):
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Speaker1: Your metabolism is already low because your activity is not very high, (03:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Probably. So these drugs might be interesting for you. They may be like, (03:46):
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Kevin Tejada: hey, I can lose weight by not doing stuff. (03:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Whoa, that sounds interesting to me. (03:54):
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Kevin Tejada: But it's the same issue I had with liposuction. As in, yeah, (03:57):
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Kevin Tejada: get the fat sucked out of you. No effort, besides financial. (04:01):
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Kevin Tejada: But it doesn't fix the habits that got you there. So it's possible it could just happen again. (04:06):
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Kevin Tejada: What a waste of money that would be. (04:12):
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Kevin Tejada: Naturally it's a different story you have (04:14):
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Kevin Tejada: to build new habits you have to retrain your brain you have (04:18):
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Kevin Tejada: to figure out what actually works so to use Lizzo as an example as I'll be using (04:21):
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Kevin Tejada: throughout this this entire episode apparently she tried Ozempic initially early (04:26):
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Kevin Tejada: on and obviously Ozempic it basically works it just makes you not hungry but (04:31):
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Kevin Tejada: for her the side effects seem to be too, (04:37):
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Kevin Tejada: well not worth it she heard about all the emergency room visits the emergency surgeries, (04:40):
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Kevin Tejada: probably the muscle loss wasn't very appealing either (04:46):
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Kevin Tejada: so for her it was a it was just a science thing (04:50):
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Kevin Tejada: as she said i'm gonna quote her it's just (04:53):
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Kevin Tejada: a science for me calories in versus calories out ozempic (04:56):
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Kevin Tejada: works because you eat less food makes you feel full so if (04:59):
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Kevin Tejada: you can do that on your own and get mind over matter it's the (05:02):
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Kevin Tejada: same thing that's i like that take (05:05):
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Kevin Tejada: although it's not the same thing because osempic makes you not hungry (05:08):
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Kevin Tejada: and you're you know it doesn't fix the habit so you're just going to lose a (05:11):
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Kevin Tejada: bunch of muscle as well probably bone mass too but i don't recall the specifics (05:13):
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Kevin Tejada: of that but you lose more than the fat so that's great understanding the science (05:17):
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Kevin Tejada: behind it understanding that it's about calories in versus calories out is what (05:22):
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Kevin Tejada: will get you that weight loss and what will keep you there. (05:26):
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Kevin Tejada: Side note, what do people mean when they say calories in versus calories out? (05:31):
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Kevin Tejada: Calories in, as you can guess, is what you're eating. Calories out is what you're (05:34):
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Kevin Tejada: expending. Now, here's something I thought for many years. (05:38):
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Kevin Tejada: And once I found this out, or rather when I found out the truth, (05:42):
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Kevin Tejada: I was very, very relieved. (05:45):
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Kevin Tejada: What I used to think was that calories out meant everything that went in had (05:47):
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Kevin Tejada: to be burned off through exercise. (05:52):
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Kevin Tejada: So I thought people who were thin, not fat, they just exercise a lot. (05:54):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you eat, you know, 2000 calories a day for your food, (05:59):
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Kevin Tejada: you have to work out 2000 calories at some point to kind of nullify that. (06:05):
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Kevin Tejada: And I was thinking, holy fucking hell, how is this possible? (06:10):
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Kevin Tejada: How is this even possible to stay thin? Then these people must must be super (06:13):
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Kevin Tejada: active. And I can't keep up with that. It's ridiculous. (06:17):
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Kevin Tejada: But what I found out, and this changed everything, is that calories out is not just through exercise. (06:20):
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Kevin Tejada: The calories you burn through exercise is actually not that much. (06:27):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, yeah, if you want to run for like two hours, that's a decent amount, (06:30):
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Kevin Tejada: but it's still not going to outdo what a donut would put into you. (06:34):
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Kevin Tejada: So what I found out is that even at rest, just your body existing, (06:39):
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Kevin Tejada: you're breathing, your heart's pumping, your organs are doing stuff, (06:44):
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Kevin Tejada: you're talking, just existing, no matter what you're doing, breathing, (06:47):
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Kevin Tejada: talking, blinking, it all burns calories. (06:51):
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Kevin Tejada: All these bodily functions burn calories. If you were in a coma, (06:55):
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Kevin Tejada: you would still burn over a thousand calories just by existing. (06:59):
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Kevin Tejada: Now, if you're up, walking around, living your life, that number goes up. (07:03):
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Kevin Tejada: You're burning more calories by existing because your existence is a bit more (07:09):
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Kevin Tejada: active than just being in a coma. (07:12):
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Kevin Tejada: And I'll say you exercise, the number of calories that you burn just by existing goes up yet again. (07:14):
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Kevin Tejada: So that's kind of why I really recommend exercise if you're trying to lose weight. (07:22):
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Kevin Tejada: The majority is nutrition, duh. (07:27):
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Kevin Tejada: But if you're generally active, your body will burn more calories at rest every (07:29):
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Kevin Tejada: day, which will make it much easier for you to lose weight. So that's what that means. (07:34):
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Kevin Tejada: An interesting thing that Lizzo did is she used to have a vegan diet and then (07:39):
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Kevin Tejada: she switched to eating a bunch of animals. (07:46):
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Speaker1: I found this to be fascinating, (07:49):
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Kevin Tejada: Not because I don't understand why, but because you don't normally hear that kind of thing. (07:50):
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Kevin Tejada: You normally hear the opposite. Say, hey, I used to eat a shit ton of steaks. (07:55):
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Kevin Tejada: I went vegan and lost a bunch of weight. (07:58):
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Kevin Tejada: But that's the thing most people don't understand. Just because something is (08:00):
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Kevin Tejada: vegan doesn't mean it is good for you. (08:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Oreos are vegan. Of course, falafels and other good foods are also vegan. (08:07):
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Kevin Tejada: Those are what you should be going for. (08:12):
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Speaker1: However, most people, when they're vegan, (08:15):
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Kevin Tejada: A lot of their diet, especially in America, it can go to ultra-processed foods that pretend to be meat. (08:20):
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Kevin Tejada: You know, the fake meat options, fake cheese options. (08:27):
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Kevin Tejada: Sometimes those are worse than actual (08:30):
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Kevin Tejada: meat and cheese in terms of all the saturated fat and whatnot on them. (08:32):
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Kevin Tejada: Now, I won't lie to you. I have a friend who's vegan. So when we have our board (08:38):
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Kevin Tejada: game nights, there's the impossible nuggets that come out and that partake sometimes, you know, (08:41):
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Kevin Tejada: now regular chicken nuggets versus impossible quote unquote chicken nuggets (08:48):
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Kevin Tejada: in terms of your health. They're both not great. (08:53):
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Kevin Tejada: Like let's be clear. They're both ultra processed to shit, extra stuff in them (08:56):
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Kevin Tejada: just to, you know, let them keep their shape and bake and stuff like that. (09:00):
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Kevin Tejada: Apparently impossible nuggets are slightly less bad, but, you know, (09:04):
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Kevin Tejada: fucking nuggets are nuggets, right? (09:09):
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Kevin Tejada: And the point being, just because something is vegan, doesn't mean it is better (09:11):
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Kevin Tejada: by far. That's not how that works. (09:15):
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Kevin Tejada: When a food is vegan, all that means is that it does not contain animal, (09:18):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know what you call animal innards. (09:24):
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Kevin Tejada: It doesn't come from an animal, essentially, Whether it's from the body of the (09:27):
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Kevin Tejada: animal itself With the meat or what it You know the dairy What it squirts out (09:31):
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Kevin Tejada: through its nipples if it's a mammal And also Eggs too that comes out as well, (09:36):
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Kevin Tejada: Essentially if it comes From an animal If it comes of the animal or from the animal. (09:42):
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Speaker1: It's no good. (09:48):
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Kevin Tejada: So a lot of the vegan stuff is plant-based. You would think, (09:49):
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Kevin Tejada: if you can find the stuff that actually tastes good, you can be vegan, (09:52):
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Kevin Tejada: lose a bunch of weight, be healthy. (09:57):
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Kevin Tejada: Thing is, it's pretty challenging these days because go out to eat, (09:59):
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Kevin Tejada: try to be vegan, see what happens. (10:02):
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Kevin Tejada: See how fucking easy, see how fucking hard that is. But if you're eating, (10:05):
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Kevin Tejada: you know, like a Mediterranean diet, the vegan parts, it's just great, it's fun, it's awesome. (10:08):
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Kevin Tejada: But it is very possible for a vegan to have a way worse diet than someone who (10:15):
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Kevin Tejada: just eats animal proteins diet dairy stuff It's possible. (10:19):
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Kevin Tejada: It just depends on the quality of the food so Big ass tangent aside, (10:24):
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Kevin Tejada: Lizzo switched from vegan to eating meat and stuff like that And I commend this (10:29):
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Kevin Tejada: actually because a lot of the stuff she was eating was processed Like I said (10:33):
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Kevin Tejada: and a lot of that stuff a lot of ultra processed foods whether they're vegan (10:37):
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Kevin Tejada: or not They're not very filling. (10:40):
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Kevin Tejada: They're just meant to taste pretty good and be cheap to make so (10:42):
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Kevin Tejada: it says she was eating 3 000 to 5 000 calorie (10:45):
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Kevin Tejada: vegan diet which is crazy and obviously you know there's some other stuff not (10:48):
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Kevin Tejada: just process ultra process stuff but you know like breads and stuff like that (10:53):
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Kevin Tejada: bread can be pretty good but in terms of the calories it's kind of like rice (10:56):
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Kevin Tejada: you know it's great with a meal but if you're eating just that you're gonna (11:01):
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Kevin Tejada: be you're gonna fill up your calorie budget real quick. (11:04):
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Speaker1: Not necessarily be as full as you want to be. (11:08):
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Kevin Tejada: So that was part of what she was doing. But then she switched to more whole (11:11):
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Kevin Tejada: foods, less ultra processed, more animal proteins. (11:15):
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Kevin Tejada: And guess what? It helped. (11:18):
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Kevin Tejada: You know why? When you eat whole foods, more animal, or more proteins in general, you stay full. (11:21):
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Kevin Tejada: Like I said, a lot of the other ultra processed foods, they don't really fill (11:27):
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Kevin Tejada: you up because they're filled with not food, but more real food, it helps fill you up. (11:30):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're full, you're less likely to eat if you're less (11:37):
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Kevin Tejada: likely to eat you're less likely to eat too much which helps you lose (11:39):
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Kevin Tejada: weight let's get into some some myths here myth (11:42):
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Kevin Tejada: one glp1 drugs like olympic (11:46):
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Kevin Tejada: are safe and easy everyone's doing it bro what (11:49):
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Kevin Tejada: everyone's doing it that might be a thing in (11:52):
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Kevin Tejada: hollywood i it sucks i hate that that (11:55):
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Kevin Tejada: that this has become popular because now when (11:58):
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Kevin Tejada: i see someone you know like 20 years ago i saw a celebrity (12:00):
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Kevin Tejada: or someone that i didn't know in person i (12:03):
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Kevin Tejada: saw him lose weight i'm like awesome good for them but now (12:06):
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Kevin Tejada: when i see someone famous lose weight i'm like (12:10):
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Kevin Tejada: uh you hopped on the drug right it sucks (12:13):
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Kevin Tejada: i don't know if they did it naturally or not and they're not gonna fucking say (12:16):
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Kevin Tejada: it some do i watched a comedy special from jim gaffigan months ago right at (12:19):
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Kevin Tejada: the beginning he was like yeah i lost a bunch of weight you think it was as (12:25):
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Kevin Tejada: epic it wasn't it was manjaro whatever the fuck it was so he's straight up about (12:29):
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Kevin Tejada: it's like yeah man And willpower is tough. So I'm going to take this drug as long as I can. (12:33):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm like, you know what? I actually respect that. Fair enough. (12:38):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, it'd be great if you could build that, but, you know, (12:42):
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Kevin Tejada: self-awareness is great. (12:45):
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Kevin Tejada: So, yeah, a lot of people are doing it. That's true. But safe and easy, bro, what the hell? (12:47):
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Kevin Tejada: So what I'm reading here is 70% of ER visits, emergency room for those not in (12:52):
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Kevin Tejada: America who don't need to go to the emergency room so often. (12:58):
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Kevin Tejada: For these drugs, the semaglutide drugs, the ozempic-wegovis, (13:01):
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Kevin Tejada: 70% of those visits are for distress in the gastrointestinal area, (13:07):
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Kevin Tejada: you know, stomach and the butt area. (13:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, really, it travels from your mouth to your butt, basically. (13:17):
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Kevin Tejada: Everything between there can count as the gastrointestinal tract. (13:20):
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Kevin Tejada: So this includes vomiting, nausea, diarrhea, blah, blah, blah. (13:25):
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Kevin Tejada: As of January 2025, there have been 82 deaths linked to GLP-1 drugs in the UK. (13:29):
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Kevin Tejada: I really wonder how much it is for America, but 82 is way too much anyway. (13:39):
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Kevin Tejada: And higher doses, of course, increased risk of other kinds of diseases like (13:44):
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Kevin Tejada: pancreatitis, gallbladder stuff, stuff like that. So it's not very safe, actually. (13:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number two You need drugs to lose significant weight Natural methods don't (13:59):
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Kevin Tejada: work fast enough You know you might have half of a point With the second part (14:04):
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Kevin Tejada: about the natural But you need drugs to lose significant weight Is absolutely (14:07):
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Kevin Tejada: insane I lost 100 pounds myself No drugs But I agree it was not fast enough. (14:10):
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Speaker1: That took me, I don't know, (14:16):
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Kevin Tejada: Because the start date, the end date, kind of blurry, took between five and (14:17):
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Kevin Tejada: seven years for me to lose 100 pounds. (14:22):
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Kevin Tejada: I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. So it took a long time. (14:24):
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Kevin Tejada: If I knew then when I knew now, it would take me about two-ish years to lose those 100 pounds low. (14:27):
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Kevin Tejada: And honestly, if I had to do it again, I'd probably not lose 100. (14:34):
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Kevin Tejada: I'd probably lose like 70 or so and go straight to fit instead of thinner or (14:36):
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Kevin Tejada: leaner, I guess I would say. (14:44):
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Kevin Tejada: May still be lean but you know what i'm saying i would basically pack on a bunch (14:46):
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Kevin Tejada: of muscle or retain a lot of muscle as i am losing that weight that's what i would have done but, (14:49):
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Kevin Tejada: regardless it takes it takes a while that's true so you don't need drugs to (14:54):
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Kevin Tejada: lose significant weight the natural methods not working fast enough is it's (14:59):
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Kevin Tejada: something you got to build your patience like, (15:03):
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Kevin Tejada: i was telling a client the other day you know we're kind of starting out in (15:06):
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Kevin Tejada: the beginning feeling out what you can handle for nutrition, but I got to tell you, (15:11):
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Kevin Tejada: once we get going proper, it's still not going to be super fast. (15:15):
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Kevin Tejada: All things going perfectly. You can still expect, you know, one pound per week (15:19):
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Kevin Tejada: loss, give or take, of course. (15:23):
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Kevin Tejada: It's not going to be super quick, but it doesn't really matter. (15:25):
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Kevin Tejada: If your goal is to reach X. (15:28):
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Kevin Tejada: Wait, it doesn't matter how long it's going to take. The alternative is just (15:31):
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Kevin Tejada: not doing it and just staying overweight, staying unhappy. (15:35):
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Kevin Tejada: So even if it takes a while, it doesn't really matter. That's going to be the (15:39):
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Kevin Tejada: end goal. Who cares if it takes six months or six years? (15:42):
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Kevin Tejada: That's where you want to get to. In six years, do you want to be more overweight (15:47):
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Kevin Tejada: or do you want to reach that goal? (15:51):
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Kevin Tejada: The patience just has to come with it. You're going to develop a lot of patience on this journey too. (15:53):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number three Once you start the drug, you can just stop when you hit your goal, (15:59):
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Kevin Tejada: Maybe, I don't know It might be like liposuction where you do it And then you (16:04):
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Kevin Tejada: move on with your life And then you gain a bunch of weight Because you didn't (16:07):
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Kevin Tejada: fix the habits that got you overweight in the first place, (16:11):
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Kevin Tejada: And I assume it's the case for people who stop using these drugs They're like, (16:14):
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Kevin Tejada: okay, I'm done, I reached my way I'm sick of these side effects, let me get off the drug, (16:18):
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Kevin Tejada: Oops, I still don't know how to count my fucking calories I'm gaining weight (16:22):
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Kevin Tejada: again Whoopsie doopsie let me hop on the drug again. That's a healthy cycle. (16:26):
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Kevin Tejada: If you don't learn how it actually works, you're just going to be dependent on that drug. (16:31):
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Kevin Tejada: It's not going to be just, I'm going to take this drug. I reach my weight. (16:35):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm this weight forever now. No. (16:39):
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Kevin Tejada: It just stops you from being super hungry. You know what else can stop you from (16:41):
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Kevin Tejada: being super hungry? Your brain. Try it, please. (16:46):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number four, natural weight loss is too slow and complicated for busy tech (16:50):
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Kevin Tejada: workers. The slow thing Opinion Too complicated Bro if you work in tech You understand complexity. (16:55):
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Kevin Tejada: You understand how systems work and how they can help. (17:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Weight loss is not very complicated. You don't need to do massive meal prep (17:09):
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Kevin Tejada: stuff. It helps, but you don't have to do it. (17:12):
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Kevin Tejada: You don't have to work out so damn much. It can help if you work out more, (17:15):
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Kevin Tejada: but you don't really have to work out at all, to be honest with you. (17:19):
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Kevin Tejada: You can straight up not work out, just eat less and you lose weight. It's pretty simple. (17:23):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're working seven to 10 hours a day, that might be how you start off. (17:29):
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Kevin Tejada: I would obviously recommend doing exercise at some point, but yeah, (17:33):
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Kevin Tejada: you still have the option to do the method that just involves food control. (17:37):
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Kevin Tejada: So you can honestly fit this into any job, unless you're a taste tester, (17:43):
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Kevin Tejada: maybe that that might be difficult, or you're a chef, maybe that's probably tough. (17:49):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know how every chef in the world isn't fat as fuck, you know, (17:54):
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Kevin Tejada: just take, I mean, you must say, I guess if you're super confident in your food, (17:58):
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Kevin Tejada: you're like, I don't need to taste this. I know it's good. (18:02):
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Kevin Tejada: Then I guess that can work. But I'd imagine if you're cooking this good stuff, (18:04):
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Kevin Tejada: you can just pick parts of it here and there. (18:08):
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Kevin Tejada: That must be tough. But if you're impatient, natural weight loss can be slow. (18:11):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're new, it can seem complicated. But once you ease into it slowly, (18:18):
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Kevin Tejada: it's going to be something that's fairly sustainable long-term. (18:22):
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Kevin Tejada: Just start slow start with (18:25):
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Kevin Tejada: eating less shit you eat five donuts (18:29):
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Kevin Tejada: a week eat two try that first love soda switch to low sugar juice or kombucha (18:32):
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Kevin Tejada: try that first take it slow see how it goes if you like what's going on you (18:41):
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Kevin Tejada: can make more changes so here's here's a cost comparison. (18:47):
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Kevin Tejada: Ozempic is about a thousand a month (18:53):
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Kevin Tejada: without insurance i think with insurance something (18:56):
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Kevin Tejada: like 300 a month which either way is fucking (18:59):
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Kevin Tejada: absurd for a drug you can pay for like a personal trainer for that or a sick (19:02):
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Kevin Tejada: gym like in equinox or something although be careful with equinox i used to (19:09):
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Kevin Tejada: work there and canceling your membership is a humongous pain in the ass so be (19:14):
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Kevin Tejada: sure you you like Like it, (19:19):
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Kevin Tejada: but yeah, for a drug 300, dude, if you're going to be spending like 300 or so, (19:21):
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Kevin Tejada: like go see a coach or a trainer or something. I'm not just biased. (19:25):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, I am biased, but here's how I look at it. (19:29):
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Kevin Tejada: If you're paying for Ozempic or something, it's kind of like renting an apartment. (19:32):
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Kevin Tejada: You're putting that money in, but you're not retaining anything that's helpful. (19:36):
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Kevin Tejada: You spend the money on a personal trainer or coach. They're not shitty. (19:40):
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Kevin Tejada: You're learning some stuff along the way. So it's kind of like, (19:44):
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Kevin Tejada: instead of renting an apartment, you're paying mortgage on a house. (19:47):
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Kevin Tejada: Yeah, you're still paying, but you're getting something. (19:50):
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Kevin Tejada: You are getting value from that, whether it's knowledge, results, whatever it is. (19:54):
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Kevin Tejada: But that's with insurance. It'll be $300 for El Zempic. (19:58):
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Kevin Tejada: Costs about $1,000. We Govi is more expensive, I think. It's hard. (20:03):
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Kevin Tejada: America's insurance thing is completely fucked up. I try to compare the health (20:08):
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Kevin Tejada: insurance with my girlfriend the other day. I'm like, what the, (20:13):
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Kevin Tejada: how the fuck am I supposed to read this? (20:16):
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Kevin Tejada: What does this even mean? Why is it, why is, why is the deductible and the premium (20:18):
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Kevin Tejada: so drastically different for this plan? (20:23):
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Kevin Tejada: Like what I have to read the, the, the, you know, the different specialist stuff, (20:25):
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Kevin Tejada: the drug, what's different about it? Why is it so fucking insane to understand this? (20:29):
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Kevin Tejada: Anyway, we go, he's more expensive. It seems like about 1300 a month. (20:34):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know what a DTC program is, but I assume it's something similar to insurance or discount. (20:39):
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Kevin Tejada: So, yeah, it's going to cost over, either one costs over $10,000 a year, (20:45):
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Kevin Tejada: which I think is not worth it. (20:48):
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Kevin Tejada: You know what's free? Subscribing, by the way. (20:51):
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Kevin Tejada: But a gym membership is about $40 to $70 a month. (20:54):
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Kevin Tejada: Mine is about $25 a month. If you can find a Blink Fitness, go for it. I love Blink. (20:59):
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Kevin Tejada: The only issue with Blink Fitness is that it is, it's crowded as fuck because (21:05):
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Kevin Tejada: it's cheap, but it is better than Planet Fitness. (21:09):
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Kevin Tejada: It's got, you know, it's got barbells that are not attached to a Smith machine. That is fantastic. (21:11):
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Kevin Tejada: I think some Planet Fitnesses now have free, you (21:20):
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Kevin Tejada: know free barbells out there but all the (21:23):
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Kevin Tejada: ones i ever went two years ago they the closest thing (21:26):
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Kevin Tejada: was just the one on the smith machine which doesn't really count as a barbell (21:29):
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Kevin Tejada: because you can't move it so gym memberships 40 70 i guess could be cheaper (21:32):
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Kevin Tejada: so that's 500 to a thousand a year or less could be 300 personal training could (21:36):
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Kevin Tejada: be 200 to 300 a month or it could be more. (21:44):
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Kevin Tejada: When i worked at equinox people were paying me i mean (21:48):
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Kevin Tejada: uh paying the gym like a over 100 per (21:51):
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Kevin Tejada: session which as a trainer at equinox you don't get you don't get a lot of that (21:55):
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Kevin Tejada: but they were paying you know the ones my clients were three times a week so (21:59):
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Kevin Tejada: they were paying like 1200 or more a month so hey you know things could be worse (22:03):
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Kevin Tejada: i mean they got good results i'm not gonna say it's a waste (22:10):
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Kevin Tejada: money i made it worth it for him but imagine paying (22:14):
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Kevin Tejada: that and you don't get to keep any of that you don't get (22:16):
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Kevin Tejada: any knowledge you don't get any tracking you don't get any support you don't (22:19):
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Kevin Tejada: get any correction you just get hey inject this and you won't eat as much doesn't (22:23):
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Kevin Tejada: seem worth it to me yeah i i don't prefer the drug approach because it's kind (22:28):
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Kevin Tejada: of like you ask someone to help you with something and they just come over there and do it for you, (22:33):
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Kevin Tejada: And you're thinking, okay, that's cool, but I don't really know how to do this (22:39):
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Kevin Tejada: myself, so that kind of sucks. (22:42):
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Kevin Tejada: Whereas losing it naturally is like asking someone to help you with something. (22:44):
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Kevin Tejada: They're like, okay, so here's what we're going to do, boop, boop, (22:48):
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Kevin Tejada: boop, boop, boop. And then you understand, like, okay, I have a decent idea (22:50):
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Kevin Tejada: of where to go from here. Awesome, thanks. (22:52):
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Kevin Tejada: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man a fish, feed him for life. (22:55):
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Kevin Tejada: Fish is a great source of protein, by the way. (23:00):
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Kevin Tejada: It's just a philosophy behind this, the natural versus unnatural. (23:02):
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Kevin Tejada: If you have a shit ton of money you don't (23:06):
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Kevin Tejada: give a fuck about muscle willpower is (23:09):
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Kevin Tejada: annoying buy your drugs that's fine (23:12):
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Kevin Tejada: i understand i don't agree with it but if you (23:15):
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Kevin Tejada: truly understand what it means cost wise (23:18):
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Kevin Tejada: future wise and you can afford the the emergency room visits if what can i say (23:22):
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Kevin Tejada: like you you got it you know you know what you're gonna do go for it if you're (23:29):
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Kevin Tejada: not rich you actually care about not losing all your muscle. (23:33):
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Kevin Tejada: You don't feel like going to the hospital and paying more. (23:37):
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Kevin Tejada: To fix what you already paid too much for in terms of drugs. (23:39):
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Kevin Tejada: I recommend doing it naturally. (23:44):
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Kevin Tejada: What does this consist of? Well, first of all, make a change. (23:46):
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Kevin Tejada: Make a change. If you don't do any exercise at all, start walking. (23:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Start that first. If you eat like complete fucking dog shit. (23:54):
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Kevin Tejada: Swap those snacks, swap those foods, or reduce the amount. Try that first. See how you feel. (23:58):
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Kevin Tejada: Make sure you're keeping track of this stuff via pictures or scale. (24:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Is you need some kind of reference whether it's visual or numbers or something (24:08):
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Kevin Tejada: else then when you're more comfortable with this kind of progress and tracking, (24:11):
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Kevin Tejada: you can get more granular if you want tracking your calories you (24:16):
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Kevin Tejada: can track macros if you want i think the only macro worth (24:19):
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Kevin Tejada: tracking is is proteins honestly i mean that's that's also only helpful kind (24:22):
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Kevin Tejada: of well not only helpful but it's mostly helpful when you see it in reference (24:28):
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Kevin Tejada: to other macro nutrients but whatever that's one thing if you if you for some (24:31):
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Kevin Tejada: fucking reason just never want to track your calories ever, you're missing out, first of all. (24:36):
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Kevin Tejada: Secondly, I would recommend you at least track your protein, your grams of protein. (24:41):
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Kevin Tejada: Try to get like a gram of protein per kilogram of body weight. (24:46):
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Kevin Tejada: It's more like, you know, 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, (24:50):
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Kevin Tejada: maybe a bit more actually, but just, just think about it as a base. (24:55):
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Speaker1: Like for me, (24:59):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm 70 something kilograms. I don't know. 78. (25:00):
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Kevin Tejada: So I'd be eating a bit over 100 grams of protein per day. (25:05):
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Kevin Tejada: I try to, and that's ideal. So if you don't want to track calories for whatever (25:09):
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Kevin Tejada: reason, that would be the absolute minimum I would recommend to you in terms of tracking. (25:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Don't change everything at once. It's not going to be fun. It's going to be way too hard. (25:20):
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Kevin Tejada: At your day job, you're probably familiar with the concept of change meetings. (25:24):
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Speaker1: You group together, say, (25:31):
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Kevin Tejada: Hey, we're going to make this change to the process. Is everyone okay with this? (25:32):
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Kevin Tejada: Is this going to fuck anything else up? Are there other changes that we need to keep in mind first? (25:35):
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Kevin Tejada: Think of it like that. Just introduce a change. Think, oh, is this work? (25:40):
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Kevin Tejada: Is this going to mess something up? Is this doable? (25:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Make that change, then see what happens. but just do one maybe two at a time (25:46):
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Kevin Tejada: don't just next week say okay i'm gonna start exercising three times a week (25:51):
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Kevin Tejada: i'm gonna eat only chicken i'm gonna add in three pounds of broccoli per week. (25:54):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm gonna track all my calories from day one chill the (26:00):
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Kevin Tejada: fuck out that's gonna that's gonna end poorly because (26:03):
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Kevin Tejada: you're gonna be like this is too much because i'm not used to it and i (26:06):
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Kevin Tejada: don't want to do it anymore fuck this chill out do one (26:08):
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Kevin Tejada: of those things and even like a partial like gin (26:11):
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Kevin Tejada: three times a week right away you just do once a week just try (26:14):
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Kevin Tejada: just just do one thing okay so here's a (26:17):
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Kevin Tejada: challenge for you if you try to lose weight and you're like oh drugs seem kind (26:20):
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Kevin Tejada: of cool slap yourself and then for the next week try keeping track of four food (26:24):
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Kevin Tejada: items like download my fitness pal chronometer whatever you use the chronometer (26:30):
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Kevin Tejada: however you say it my net diary any calorie tracking app. (26:34):
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Kevin Tejada: Track four foods, not meals, foods. (26:38):
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Kevin Tejada: Use a barcode. I'm consuming this. Barcode, snap, scan, whatever. (26:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Got that. At the end of the week, just see how it is. (26:48):
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Kevin Tejada: Add a bit more and do a whole day sometime in the coming weeks as you get more (26:51):
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Kevin Tejada: accustomed to the actual tracking. See how it is. (26:57):
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Kevin Tejada: See what you notice. Sometimes just being aware can help you change more than anything else. (27:00):
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Kevin Tejada: So do that for drugs Please, please. (27:05):
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Speaker1: Because you'll keep (27:09):
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Kevin Tejada: The knowledge And also subscribe Or you're not going to make it Alright, (27:10):
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Kevin Tejada: stay off drugs kids, see you next time. (27:15):
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Kevin Tejada: Lizzo is a pop music artist. (00:33):
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Kevin Tejada: I think it's pop. Pop just means popular, so I don't know. (00:36):
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Kevin Tejada: And famously, she's known, she has been known to be round. So the fact that (00:40):
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Kevin Tejada: she's lost a bunch of weight recently is interesting. (00:45):
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Kevin Tejada: But Kevin, if you don't listen to the music, how the fuck would you know this? (00:48):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, basically, I was just researching what people have been searching for (00:52):
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Kevin Tejada: in regards to weight loss. and I see, well, Lizzo, weight loss, Lizzo, weight loss. (00:56):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm thinking, what's going on over here? (00:59):
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Kevin Tejada: She was weight. Thank God. My girlfriend has called me fat phobic as a joke (01:03):
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Kevin Tejada: because I myself have lost a hundred pounds and I bring up Lizzo's weight whenever (01:08):
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Kevin Tejada: she comes up saying, hey, did she lose weight yet? (01:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Not because I hate fat people, because being that obese is not great. (01:17):
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Kevin Tejada: And she's apparently lost a bunch Now my first (01:22):
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Kevin Tejada: thought was Oh she used OZEMPIC of (01:25):
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Kevin Tejada: course That's what everyone's doing these days So I (01:28):
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Kevin Tejada: looked into it And she did at least at the beginning (01:31):
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Kevin Tejada: But then she said Hey this (01:34):
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Kevin Tejada: basically just causes A caloric deficit (01:36):
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Kevin Tejada: So if I can do that myself it's gonna be better overall No (01:40):
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Kevin Tejada: bad side effects So assuming this is true And she's not secretly taking drugs (01:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Then that's fucking badass and I commend that so I'm going to use this as a (01:49):
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Kevin Tejada: kind of frame to discuss natural weight loss versus drugs drug weight loss maybe surgery one we'll see. (01:55):
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Kevin Tejada: Liposuction is something people totally forgot about once once the Zempick and (02:03):
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Kevin Tejada: we go we got popular what's lipo? fuck that. (02:08):
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Kevin Tejada: So here's the thing, you can lose weight naturally, or you can lose it through (02:12):
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Kevin Tejada: drugs and surgery. I would say unnaturally. (02:16):
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Kevin Tejada: There are costs to both. Both can work. I think there's a clear winner here because I'm biased. (02:20):
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Kevin Tejada: I lost 100 pounds through nutrition and exercise. (02:27):
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Kevin Tejada: If you told teenage me, hey, you can just inject this a bit or whatever and (02:31):
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Kevin Tejada: then lose weight without effort, who knows what I would have done? (02:35):
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Kevin Tejada: Maybe that would have sounded great to me. So I'm glad I never had the option (02:38):
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Kevin Tejada: because I learned doing it, in my opinion, spoiler alert, I prefer the natural (02:42):
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Kevin Tejada: way because once you know that, once you know what to do, once you gain that (02:46):
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Kevin Tejada: knowledge through experience. (02:51):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, it's really hard for you to get overweight again. (02:53):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, a lot of people do, but in my opinion, once you go through that, (02:55):
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Kevin Tejada: you know what it takes to get to that point. (02:59):
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Kevin Tejada: You know what it takes to lose all that weight. You know what it's going to (03:03):
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Kevin Tejada: take mentally to go through that journey again. you know how it works. (03:06):
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Kevin Tejada: It's a difference between hiring a plumber to come fix your stuff or learning how pipes work. (03:11):
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Kevin Tejada: Now that pipe situation is not really going to be something that gives you diabetes, right? (03:17):
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Kevin Tejada: But yeah, ideally it'd be great if you could just have that knowledge yourself, right? (03:22):
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Kevin Tejada: That's why I prefer natural weight loss. So if you work in tech, (03:28):
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Kevin Tejada: especially You're sitting down all day You're sifting through you know code (03:32):
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Kevin Tejada: blocks Systems policies All this shit For probably 7 to 10 hours a day. (03:36):
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Speaker1: Your metabolism is already low because your activity is not very high, (03:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Probably. So these drugs might be interesting for you. They may be like, (03:46):
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Kevin Tejada: hey, I can lose weight by not doing stuff. (03:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Whoa, that sounds interesting to me. (03:54):
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Kevin Tejada: But it's the same issue I had with liposuction. As in, yeah, (03:57):
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Kevin Tejada: get the fat sucked out of you. No effort, besides financial. (04:01):
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Kevin Tejada: But it doesn't fix the habits that got you there. So it's possible it could just happen again. (04:06):
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Kevin Tejada: What a waste of money that would be. (04:12):
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Kevin Tejada: Naturally it's a different story you have (04:14):
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Kevin Tejada: to build new habits you have to retrain your brain you have (04:18):
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Kevin Tejada: to figure out what actually works so to use Lizzo as an example as I'll be using (04:21):
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Kevin Tejada: throughout this this entire episode apparently she tried Ozempic initially early (04:26):
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Kevin Tejada: on and obviously Ozempic it basically works it just makes you not hungry but (04:31):
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Kevin Tejada: for her the side effects seem to be too, (04:37):
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Kevin Tejada: well not worth it she heard about all the emergency room visits the emergency surgeries, (04:40):
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Kevin Tejada: probably the muscle loss wasn't very appealing either (04:46):
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Kevin Tejada: so for her it was a it was just a science thing (04:50):
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Kevin Tejada: as she said i'm gonna quote her it's just (04:53):
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Kevin Tejada: a science for me calories in versus calories out ozempic (04:56):
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Kevin Tejada: works because you eat less food makes you feel full so if (04:59):
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Kevin Tejada: you can do that on your own and get mind over matter it's the (05:02):
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Kevin Tejada: same thing that's i like that take (05:05):
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Kevin Tejada: although it's not the same thing because osempic makes you not hungry (05:08):
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Kevin Tejada: and you're you know it doesn't fix the habit so you're just going to lose a (05:11):
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Kevin Tejada: bunch of muscle as well probably bone mass too but i don't recall the specifics (05:13):
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Kevin Tejada: of that but you lose more than the fat so that's great understanding the science (05:17):
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Kevin Tejada: behind it understanding that it's about calories in versus calories out is what (05:22):
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Kevin Tejada: will get you that weight loss and what will keep you there. (05:26):
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Kevin Tejada: Side note, what do people mean when they say calories in versus calories out? (05:31):
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Kevin Tejada: Calories in, as you can guess, is what you're eating. Calories out is what you're (05:34):
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Kevin Tejada: expending. Now, here's something I thought for many years. (05:38):
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Kevin Tejada: And once I found this out, or rather when I found out the truth, (05:42):
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Kevin Tejada: I was very, very relieved. (05:45):
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Kevin Tejada: What I used to think was that calories out meant everything that went in had (05:47):
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Kevin Tejada: to be burned off through exercise. (05:52):
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Kevin Tejada: So I thought people who were thin, not fat, they just exercise a lot. (05:54):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you eat, you know, 2000 calories a day for your food, (05:59):
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Kevin Tejada: you have to work out 2000 calories at some point to kind of nullify that. (06:05):
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Kevin Tejada: And I was thinking, holy fucking hell, how is this possible? (06:10):
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Kevin Tejada: How is this even possible to stay thin? Then these people must must be super (06:13):
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Kevin Tejada: active. And I can't keep up with that. It's ridiculous. (06:17):
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Kevin Tejada: But what I found out, and this changed everything, is that calories out is not just through exercise. (06:20):
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Kevin Tejada: The calories you burn through exercise is actually not that much. (06:27):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, yeah, if you want to run for like two hours, that's a decent amount, (06:30):
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Kevin Tejada: but it's still not going to outdo what a donut would put into you. (06:34):
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Kevin Tejada: So what I found out is that even at rest, just your body existing, (06:39):
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Kevin Tejada: you're breathing, your heart's pumping, your organs are doing stuff, (06:44):
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Kevin Tejada: you're talking, just existing, no matter what you're doing, breathing, (06:47):
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Kevin Tejada: talking, blinking, it all burns calories. (06:51):
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Kevin Tejada: All these bodily functions burn calories. If you were in a coma, (06:55):
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Kevin Tejada: you would still burn over a thousand calories just by existing. (06:59):
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Kevin Tejada: Now, if you're up, walking around, living your life, that number goes up. (07:03):
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Kevin Tejada: You're burning more calories by existing because your existence is a bit more (07:09):
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Kevin Tejada: active than just being in a coma. (07:12):
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Kevin Tejada: And I'll say you exercise, the number of calories that you burn just by existing goes up yet again. (07:14):
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Kevin Tejada: So that's kind of why I really recommend exercise if you're trying to lose weight. (07:22):
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Kevin Tejada: The majority is nutrition, duh. (07:27):
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Kevin Tejada: But if you're generally active, your body will burn more calories at rest every (07:29):
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Kevin Tejada: day, which will make it much easier for you to lose weight. So that's what that means. (07:34):
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Kevin Tejada: An interesting thing that Lizzo did is she used to have a vegan diet and then (07:39):
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Kevin Tejada: she switched to eating a bunch of animals. (07:46):
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Speaker1: I found this to be fascinating, (07:49):
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Kevin Tejada: Not because I don't understand why, but because you don't normally hear that kind of thing. (07:50):
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Kevin Tejada: You normally hear the opposite. Say, hey, I used to eat a shit ton of steaks. (07:55):
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Kevin Tejada: I went vegan and lost a bunch of weight. (07:58):
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Kevin Tejada: But that's the thing most people don't understand. Just because something is (08:00):
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Kevin Tejada: vegan doesn't mean it is good for you. (08:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Oreos are vegan. Of course, falafels and other good foods are also vegan. (08:07):
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Kevin Tejada: Those are what you should be going for. (08:12):
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Speaker1: However, most people, when they're vegan, (08:15):
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Kevin Tejada: A lot of their diet, especially in America, it can go to ultra-processed foods that pretend to be meat. (08:20):
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Kevin Tejada: You know, the fake meat options, fake cheese options. (08:27):
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Kevin Tejada: Sometimes those are worse than actual (08:30):
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Kevin Tejada: meat and cheese in terms of all the saturated fat and whatnot on them. (08:32):
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Kevin Tejada: Now, I won't lie to you. I have a friend who's vegan. So when we have our board (08:38):
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Kevin Tejada: game nights, there's the impossible nuggets that come out and that partake sometimes, you know, (08:41):
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Kevin Tejada: now regular chicken nuggets versus impossible quote unquote chicken nuggets (08:48):
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Kevin Tejada: in terms of your health. They're both not great. (08:53):
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Kevin Tejada: Like let's be clear. They're both ultra processed to shit, extra stuff in them (08:56):
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Kevin Tejada: just to, you know, let them keep their shape and bake and stuff like that. (09:00):
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Kevin Tejada: Apparently impossible nuggets are slightly less bad, but, you know, (09:04):
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Kevin Tejada: fucking nuggets are nuggets, right? (09:09):
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Kevin Tejada: And the point being, just because something is vegan, doesn't mean it is better (09:11):
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Kevin Tejada: by far. That's not how that works. (09:15):
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Kevin Tejada: When a food is vegan, all that means is that it does not contain animal, (09:18):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know what you call animal innards. (09:24):
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Kevin Tejada: It doesn't come from an animal, essentially, Whether it's from the body of the (09:27):
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Kevin Tejada: animal itself With the meat or what it You know the dairy What it squirts out (09:31):
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Kevin Tejada: through its nipples if it's a mammal And also Eggs too that comes out as well, (09:36):
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Kevin Tejada: Essentially if it comes From an animal If it comes of the animal or from the animal. (09:42):
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Speaker1: It's no good. (09:48):
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Kevin Tejada: So a lot of the vegan stuff is plant-based. You would think, (09:49):
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Kevin Tejada: if you can find the stuff that actually tastes good, you can be vegan, (09:52):
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Kevin Tejada: lose a bunch of weight, be healthy. (09:57):
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Kevin Tejada: Thing is, it's pretty challenging these days because go out to eat, (09:59):
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Kevin Tejada: try to be vegan, see what happens. (10:02):
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Kevin Tejada: See how fucking easy, see how fucking hard that is. But if you're eating, (10:05):
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Kevin Tejada: you know, like a Mediterranean diet, the vegan parts, it's just great, it's fun, it's awesome. (10:08):
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Kevin Tejada: But it is very possible for a vegan to have a way worse diet than someone who (10:15):
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Kevin Tejada: just eats animal proteins diet dairy stuff It's possible. (10:19):
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Kevin Tejada: It just depends on the quality of the food so Big ass tangent aside, (10:24):
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Kevin Tejada: Lizzo switched from vegan to eating meat and stuff like that And I commend this (10:29):
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Kevin Tejada: actually because a lot of the stuff she was eating was processed Like I said (10:33):
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Kevin Tejada: and a lot of that stuff a lot of ultra processed foods whether they're vegan (10:37):
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Kevin Tejada: or not They're not very filling. (10:40):
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Kevin Tejada: They're just meant to taste pretty good and be cheap to make so (10:42):
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Kevin Tejada: it says she was eating 3 000 to 5 000 calorie (10:45):
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Kevin Tejada: vegan diet which is crazy and obviously you know there's some other stuff not (10:48):
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Kevin Tejada: just process ultra process stuff but you know like breads and stuff like that (10:53):
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Kevin Tejada: bread can be pretty good but in terms of the calories it's kind of like rice (10:56):
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Kevin Tejada: you know it's great with a meal but if you're eating just that you're gonna (11:01):
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Kevin Tejada: be you're gonna fill up your calorie budget real quick. (11:04):
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Speaker1: Not necessarily be as full as you want to be. (11:08):
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Kevin Tejada: So that was part of what she was doing. But then she switched to more whole (11:11):
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Kevin Tejada: foods, less ultra processed, more animal proteins. (11:15):
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Kevin Tejada: And guess what? It helped. (11:18):
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Kevin Tejada: You know why? When you eat whole foods, more animal, or more proteins in general, you stay full. (11:21):
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Kevin Tejada: Like I said, a lot of the other ultra processed foods, they don't really fill (11:27):
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Kevin Tejada: you up because they're filled with not food, but more real food, it helps fill you up. (11:30):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're full, you're less likely to eat if you're less (11:37):
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Kevin Tejada: likely to eat you're less likely to eat too much which helps you lose (11:39):
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Kevin Tejada: weight let's get into some some myths here myth (11:42):
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Kevin Tejada: one glp1 drugs like olympic (11:46):
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Kevin Tejada: are safe and easy everyone's doing it bro what (11:49):
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Kevin Tejada: everyone's doing it that might be a thing in (11:52):
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Kevin Tejada: hollywood i it sucks i hate that that (11:55):
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Kevin Tejada: that this has become popular because now when (11:58):
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Kevin Tejada: i see someone you know like 20 years ago i saw a celebrity (12:00):
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Kevin Tejada: or someone that i didn't know in person i (12:03):
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Kevin Tejada: saw him lose weight i'm like awesome good for them but now (12:06):
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Kevin Tejada: when i see someone famous lose weight i'm like (12:10):
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Kevin Tejada: uh you hopped on the drug right it sucks (12:13):
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Kevin Tejada: i don't know if they did it naturally or not and they're not gonna fucking say (12:16):
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Kevin Tejada: it some do i watched a comedy special from jim gaffigan months ago right at (12:19):
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Kevin Tejada: the beginning he was like yeah i lost a bunch of weight you think it was as (12:25):
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Kevin Tejada: epic it wasn't it was manjaro whatever the fuck it was so he's straight up about (12:29):
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Kevin Tejada: it's like yeah man And willpower is tough. So I'm going to take this drug as long as I can. (12:33):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm like, you know what? I actually respect that. Fair enough. (12:38):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, it'd be great if you could build that, but, you know, (12:42):
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Kevin Tejada: self-awareness is great. (12:45):
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Kevin Tejada: So, yeah, a lot of people are doing it. That's true. But safe and easy, bro, what the hell? (12:47):
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Kevin Tejada: So what I'm reading here is 70% of ER visits, emergency room for those not in (12:52):
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Kevin Tejada: America who don't need to go to the emergency room so often. (12:58):
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Kevin Tejada: For these drugs, the semaglutide drugs, the ozempic-wegovis, (13:01):
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Kevin Tejada: 70% of those visits are for distress in the gastrointestinal area, (13:07):
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Kevin Tejada: you know, stomach and the butt area. (13:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Well, really, it travels from your mouth to your butt, basically. (13:17):
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Kevin Tejada: Everything between there can count as the gastrointestinal tract. (13:20):
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Kevin Tejada: So this includes vomiting, nausea, diarrhea, blah, blah, blah. (13:25):
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Kevin Tejada: As of January 2025, there have been 82 deaths linked to GLP-1 drugs in the UK. (13:29):
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Kevin Tejada: I really wonder how much it is for America, but 82 is way too much anyway. (13:39):
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Kevin Tejada: And higher doses, of course, increased risk of other kinds of diseases like (13:44):
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Kevin Tejada: pancreatitis, gallbladder stuff, stuff like that. So it's not very safe, actually. (13:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number two You need drugs to lose significant weight Natural methods don't (13:59):
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Kevin Tejada: work fast enough You know you might have half of a point With the second part (14:04):
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Kevin Tejada: about the natural But you need drugs to lose significant weight Is absolutely (14:07):
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Kevin Tejada: insane I lost 100 pounds myself No drugs But I agree it was not fast enough. (14:10):
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Speaker1: That took me, I don't know, (14:16):
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Kevin Tejada: Because the start date, the end date, kind of blurry, took between five and (14:17):
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Kevin Tejada: seven years for me to lose 100 pounds. (14:22):
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Kevin Tejada: I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. So it took a long time. (14:24):
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Kevin Tejada: If I knew then when I knew now, it would take me about two-ish years to lose those 100 pounds low. (14:27):
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Kevin Tejada: And honestly, if I had to do it again, I'd probably not lose 100. (14:34):
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Kevin Tejada: I'd probably lose like 70 or so and go straight to fit instead of thinner or (14:36):
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Kevin Tejada: leaner, I guess I would say. (14:44):
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Kevin Tejada: May still be lean but you know what i'm saying i would basically pack on a bunch (14:46):
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Kevin Tejada: of muscle or retain a lot of muscle as i am losing that weight that's what i would have done but, (14:49):
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Kevin Tejada: regardless it takes it takes a while that's true so you don't need drugs to (14:54):
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Kevin Tejada: lose significant weight the natural methods not working fast enough is it's (14:59):
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Kevin Tejada: something you got to build your patience like, (15:03):
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Kevin Tejada: i was telling a client the other day you know we're kind of starting out in (15:06):
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Kevin Tejada: the beginning feeling out what you can handle for nutrition, but I got to tell you, (15:11):
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Kevin Tejada: once we get going proper, it's still not going to be super fast. (15:15):
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Kevin Tejada: All things going perfectly. You can still expect, you know, one pound per week (15:19):
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Kevin Tejada: loss, give or take, of course. (15:23):
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Kevin Tejada: It's not going to be super quick, but it doesn't really matter. (15:25):
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Kevin Tejada: If your goal is to reach X. (15:28):
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Kevin Tejada: Wait, it doesn't matter how long it's going to take. The alternative is just (15:31):
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Kevin Tejada: not doing it and just staying overweight, staying unhappy. (15:35):
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Kevin Tejada: So even if it takes a while, it doesn't really matter. That's going to be the (15:39):
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Kevin Tejada: end goal. Who cares if it takes six months or six years? (15:42):
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Kevin Tejada: That's where you want to get to. In six years, do you want to be more overweight (15:47):
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Kevin Tejada: or do you want to reach that goal? (15:51):
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Kevin Tejada: The patience just has to come with it. You're going to develop a lot of patience on this journey too. (15:53):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number three Once you start the drug, you can just stop when you hit your goal, (15:59):
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Kevin Tejada: Maybe, I don't know It might be like liposuction where you do it And then you (16:04):
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Kevin Tejada: move on with your life And then you gain a bunch of weight Because you didn't (16:07):
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Kevin Tejada: fix the habits that got you overweight in the first place, (16:11):
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Kevin Tejada: And I assume it's the case for people who stop using these drugs They're like, (16:14):
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Kevin Tejada: okay, I'm done, I reached my way I'm sick of these side effects, let me get off the drug, (16:18):
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Kevin Tejada: Oops, I still don't know how to count my fucking calories I'm gaining weight (16:22):
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Kevin Tejada: again Whoopsie doopsie let me hop on the drug again. That's a healthy cycle. (16:26):
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Kevin Tejada: If you don't learn how it actually works, you're just going to be dependent on that drug. (16:31):
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Kevin Tejada: It's not going to be just, I'm going to take this drug. I reach my weight. (16:35):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm this weight forever now. No. (16:39):
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Kevin Tejada: It just stops you from being super hungry. You know what else can stop you from (16:41):
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Kevin Tejada: being super hungry? Your brain. Try it, please. (16:46):
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Kevin Tejada: Myth number four, natural weight loss is too slow and complicated for busy tech (16:50):
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Kevin Tejada: workers. The slow thing Opinion Too complicated Bro if you work in tech You understand complexity. (16:55):
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Kevin Tejada: You understand how systems work and how they can help. (17:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Weight loss is not very complicated. You don't need to do massive meal prep (17:09):
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Kevin Tejada: stuff. It helps, but you don't have to do it. (17:12):
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Kevin Tejada: You don't have to work out so damn much. It can help if you work out more, (17:15):
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Kevin Tejada: but you don't really have to work out at all, to be honest with you. (17:19):
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Kevin Tejada: You can straight up not work out, just eat less and you lose weight. It's pretty simple. (17:23):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're working seven to 10 hours a day, that might be how you start off. (17:29):
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Kevin Tejada: I would obviously recommend doing exercise at some point, but yeah, (17:33):
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Kevin Tejada: you still have the option to do the method that just involves food control. (17:37):
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Kevin Tejada: So you can honestly fit this into any job, unless you're a taste tester, (17:43):
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Kevin Tejada: maybe that that might be difficult, or you're a chef, maybe that's probably tough. (17:49):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know how every chef in the world isn't fat as fuck, you know, (17:54):
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Kevin Tejada: just take, I mean, you must say, I guess if you're super confident in your food, (17:58):
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Kevin Tejada: you're like, I don't need to taste this. I know it's good. (18:02):
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Kevin Tejada: Then I guess that can work. But I'd imagine if you're cooking this good stuff, (18:04):
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Kevin Tejada: you can just pick parts of it here and there. (18:08):
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Kevin Tejada: That must be tough. But if you're impatient, natural weight loss can be slow. (18:11):
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Kevin Tejada: And if you're new, it can seem complicated. But once you ease into it slowly, (18:18):
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Kevin Tejada: it's going to be something that's fairly sustainable long-term. (18:22):
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Kevin Tejada: Just start slow start with (18:25):
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Kevin Tejada: eating less shit you eat five donuts (18:29):
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Kevin Tejada: a week eat two try that first love soda switch to low sugar juice or kombucha (18:32):
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Kevin Tejada: try that first take it slow see how it goes if you like what's going on you (18:41):
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Kevin Tejada: can make more changes so here's here's a cost comparison. (18:47):
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Kevin Tejada: Ozempic is about a thousand a month (18:53):
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Kevin Tejada: without insurance i think with insurance something (18:56):
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Kevin Tejada: like 300 a month which either way is fucking (18:59):
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Kevin Tejada: absurd for a drug you can pay for like a personal trainer for that or a sick (19:02):
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Kevin Tejada: gym like in equinox or something although be careful with equinox i used to (19:09):
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Kevin Tejada: work there and canceling your membership is a humongous pain in the ass so be (19:14):
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Kevin Tejada: sure you you like Like it, (19:19):
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Kevin Tejada: but yeah, for a drug 300, dude, if you're going to be spending like 300 or so, (19:21):
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Kevin Tejada: like go see a coach or a trainer or something. I'm not just biased. (19:25):
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Kevin Tejada: I mean, I am biased, but here's how I look at it. (19:29):
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Kevin Tejada: If you're paying for Ozempic or something, it's kind of like renting an apartment. (19:32):
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Kevin Tejada: You're putting that money in, but you're not retaining anything that's helpful. (19:36):
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Kevin Tejada: You spend the money on a personal trainer or coach. They're not shitty. (19:40):
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Kevin Tejada: You're learning some stuff along the way. So it's kind of like, (19:44):
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Kevin Tejada: instead of renting an apartment, you're paying mortgage on a house. (19:47):
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Kevin Tejada: Yeah, you're still paying, but you're getting something. (19:50):
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Kevin Tejada: You are getting value from that, whether it's knowledge, results, whatever it is. (19:54):
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Kevin Tejada: But that's with insurance. It'll be $300 for El Zempic. (19:58):
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Kevin Tejada: Costs about $1,000. We Govi is more expensive, I think. It's hard. (20:03):
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Kevin Tejada: America's insurance thing is completely fucked up. I try to compare the health (20:08):
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Kevin Tejada: insurance with my girlfriend the other day. I'm like, what the, (20:13):
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Kevin Tejada: how the fuck am I supposed to read this? (20:16):
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Kevin Tejada: What does this even mean? Why is it, why is, why is the deductible and the premium (20:18):
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Kevin Tejada: so drastically different for this plan? (20:23):
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Kevin Tejada: Like what I have to read the, the, the, you know, the different specialist stuff, (20:25):
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Kevin Tejada: the drug, what's different about it? Why is it so fucking insane to understand this? (20:29):
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Kevin Tejada: Anyway, we go, he's more expensive. It seems like about 1300 a month. (20:34):
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Kevin Tejada: I don't know what a DTC program is, but I assume it's something similar to insurance or discount. (20:39):
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Kevin Tejada: So, yeah, it's going to cost over, either one costs over $10,000 a year, (20:45):
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Kevin Tejada: which I think is not worth it. (20:48):
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Kevin Tejada: You know what's free? Subscribing, by the way. (20:51):
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Kevin Tejada: But a gym membership is about $40 to $70 a month. (20:54):
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Kevin Tejada: Mine is about $25 a month. If you can find a Blink Fitness, go for it. I love Blink. (20:59):
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Kevin Tejada: The only issue with Blink Fitness is that it is, it's crowded as fuck because (21:05):
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Kevin Tejada: it's cheap, but it is better than Planet Fitness. (21:09):
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Kevin Tejada: It's got, you know, it's got barbells that are not attached to a Smith machine. That is fantastic. (21:11):
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Kevin Tejada: I think some Planet Fitnesses now have free, you (21:20):
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Kevin Tejada: know free barbells out there but all the (21:23):
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Kevin Tejada: ones i ever went two years ago they the closest thing (21:26):
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Kevin Tejada: was just the one on the smith machine which doesn't really count as a barbell (21:29):
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Kevin Tejada: because you can't move it so gym memberships 40 70 i guess could be cheaper (21:32):
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Kevin Tejada: so that's 500 to a thousand a year or less could be 300 personal training could (21:36):
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Kevin Tejada: be 200 to 300 a month or it could be more. (21:44):
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Kevin Tejada: When i worked at equinox people were paying me i mean (21:48):
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Kevin Tejada: uh paying the gym like a over 100 per (21:51):
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Kevin Tejada: session which as a trainer at equinox you don't get you don't get a lot of that (21:55):
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Kevin Tejada: but they were paying you know the ones my clients were three times a week so (21:59):
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Kevin Tejada: they were paying like 1200 or more a month so hey you know things could be worse (22:03):
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Kevin Tejada: i mean they got good results i'm not gonna say it's a waste (22:10):
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Kevin Tejada: money i made it worth it for him but imagine paying (22:14):
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Kevin Tejada: that and you don't get to keep any of that you don't get (22:16):
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Kevin Tejada: any knowledge you don't get any tracking you don't get any support you don't (22:19):
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Kevin Tejada: get any correction you just get hey inject this and you won't eat as much doesn't (22:23):
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Kevin Tejada: seem worth it to me yeah i i don't prefer the drug approach because it's kind (22:28):
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Kevin Tejada: of like you ask someone to help you with something and they just come over there and do it for you, (22:33):
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Kevin Tejada: And you're thinking, okay, that's cool, but I don't really know how to do this (22:39):
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Kevin Tejada: myself, so that kind of sucks. (22:42):
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Kevin Tejada: Whereas losing it naturally is like asking someone to help you with something. (22:44):
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Kevin Tejada: They're like, okay, so here's what we're going to do, boop, boop, (22:48):
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Kevin Tejada: boop, boop, boop. And then you understand, like, okay, I have a decent idea (22:50):
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Kevin Tejada: of where to go from here. Awesome, thanks. (22:52):
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Kevin Tejada: Give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man a fish, feed him for life. (22:55):
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Kevin Tejada: Fish is a great source of protein, by the way. (23:00):
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Kevin Tejada: It's just a philosophy behind this, the natural versus unnatural. (23:02):
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Kevin Tejada: If you have a shit ton of money you don't (23:06):
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Kevin Tejada: give a fuck about muscle willpower is (23:09):
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Kevin Tejada: annoying buy your drugs that's fine (23:12):
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Kevin Tejada: i understand i don't agree with it but if you (23:15):
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Kevin Tejada: truly understand what it means cost wise (23:18):
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Kevin Tejada: future wise and you can afford the the emergency room visits if what can i say (23:22):
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Kevin Tejada: like you you got it you know you know what you're gonna do go for it if you're (23:29):
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Kevin Tejada: not rich you actually care about not losing all your muscle. (23:33):
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Kevin Tejada: You don't feel like going to the hospital and paying more. (23:37):
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Kevin Tejada: To fix what you already paid too much for in terms of drugs. (23:39):
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Kevin Tejada: I recommend doing it naturally. (23:44):
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Kevin Tejada: What does this consist of? Well, first of all, make a change. (23:46):
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Kevin Tejada: Make a change. If you don't do any exercise at all, start walking. (23:50):
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Kevin Tejada: Start that first. If you eat like complete fucking dog shit. (23:54):
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Kevin Tejada: Swap those snacks, swap those foods, or reduce the amount. Try that first. See how you feel. (23:58):
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Kevin Tejada: Make sure you're keeping track of this stuff via pictures or scale. (24:04):
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Kevin Tejada: Is you need some kind of reference whether it's visual or numbers or something (24:08):
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Kevin Tejada: else then when you're more comfortable with this kind of progress and tracking, (24:11):
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Kevin Tejada: you can get more granular if you want tracking your calories you (24:16):
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Kevin Tejada: can track macros if you want i think the only macro worth (24:19):
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Kevin Tejada: tracking is is proteins honestly i mean that's that's also only helpful kind (24:22):
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Kevin Tejada: of well not only helpful but it's mostly helpful when you see it in reference (24:28):
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Kevin Tejada: to other macro nutrients but whatever that's one thing if you if you for some (24:31):
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Kevin Tejada: fucking reason just never want to track your calories ever, you're missing out, first of all. (24:36):
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Kevin Tejada: Secondly, I would recommend you at least track your protein, your grams of protein. (24:41):
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Kevin Tejada: Try to get like a gram of protein per kilogram of body weight. (24:46):
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Kevin Tejada: It's more like, you know, 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight, (24:50):
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Kevin Tejada: maybe a bit more actually, but just, just think about it as a base. (24:55):
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Speaker1: Like for me, (24:59):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm 70 something kilograms. I don't know. 78. (25:00):
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Kevin Tejada: So I'd be eating a bit over 100 grams of protein per day. (25:05):
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Kevin Tejada: I try to, and that's ideal. So if you don't want to track calories for whatever (25:09):
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Kevin Tejada: reason, that would be the absolute minimum I would recommend to you in terms of tracking. (25:14):
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Kevin Tejada: Don't change everything at once. It's not going to be fun. It's going to be way too hard. (25:20):
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Kevin Tejada: At your day job, you're probably familiar with the concept of change meetings. (25:24):
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Speaker1: You group together, say, (25:31):
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Kevin Tejada: Hey, we're going to make this change to the process. Is everyone okay with this? (25:32):
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Kevin Tejada: Is this going to fuck anything else up? Are there other changes that we need to keep in mind first? (25:35):
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Kevin Tejada: Think of it like that. Just introduce a change. Think, oh, is this work? (25:40):
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Kevin Tejada: Is this going to mess something up? Is this doable? (25:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Make that change, then see what happens. but just do one maybe two at a time (25:46):
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Kevin Tejada: don't just next week say okay i'm gonna start exercising three times a week (25:51):
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Kevin Tejada: i'm gonna eat only chicken i'm gonna add in three pounds of broccoli per week. (25:54):
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Kevin Tejada: I'm gonna track all my calories from day one chill the (26:00):
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Kevin Tejada: fuck out that's gonna that's gonna end poorly because (26:03):
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Kevin Tejada: you're gonna be like this is too much because i'm not used to it and i (26:06):
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Kevin Tejada: don't want to do it anymore fuck this chill out do one (26:08):
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Kevin Tejada: of those things and even like a partial like gin (26:11):
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Kevin Tejada: three times a week right away you just do once a week just try (26:14):
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Kevin Tejada: just just do one thing okay so here's a (26:17):
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Kevin Tejada: challenge for you if you try to lose weight and you're like oh drugs seem kind (26:20):
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Kevin Tejada: of cool slap yourself and then for the next week try keeping track of four food (26:24):
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Kevin Tejada: items like download my fitness pal chronometer whatever you use the chronometer (26:30):
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Kevin Tejada: however you say it my net diary any calorie tracking app. (26:34):
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Kevin Tejada: Track four foods, not meals, foods. (26:38):
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Kevin Tejada: Use a barcode. I'm consuming this. Barcode, snap, scan, whatever. (26:43):
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Kevin Tejada: Got that. At the end of the week, just see how it is. (26:48):
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Kevin Tejada: Add a bit more and do a whole day sometime in the coming weeks as you get more (26:51):
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Kevin Tejada: accustomed to the actual tracking. See how it is. (26:57):
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Kevin Tejada: See what you notice. Sometimes just being aware can help you change more than anything else. (27:00):
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Kevin Tejada: So do that for drugs Please, please. (27:05):
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Kevin Tejada: The knowledge And also subscribe Or you're not going to make it Alright, (27:10):
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