Not Barbara Walters on How to Interview... Myself

This is NOT Barbara Walters, but it is a very spooky (and quite possibly the craziest) episode of Adam interviewing... himself.

Stay with us for "exactly" one hour, as the Adam(s) attempt to sharpen the interview skill sets. Yes, it's quite the split personality discussion, Smeagle, more than Sybil and does it pay off? And, of course, this episode includes the iconic segments from everyone's favorite southern mom and pop! Linda LaFaye and Dad!

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Episode Transcript

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This is you've got an hour with Adam Griffin on a very spooky episode to ring in this Halloween season.

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We're going to be calling in the dead.
Ah ha ha ha ha.
Bring out Barbara Walters.
I guess I shouldn't have used a rotary phone.
I should have used a Ouija board, but you know what those scare me and I'm not using it.
All right, no matter how spooky the theme is.
I guess I'm just not going to be able to ask her how to interview someone better.

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So I'll practice on myself.
That's right, today's episode is me interviewing myself, which is both a game and the topic.
Sort of a juggle and hide moment, if you will.
We're really honestly more of like a civil/unite-stay-satera thing, because it's like two versions of me on this.
Ooh, okay, turn to both mics.
[BEEP]

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You know, it's fascinating. I'm sitting here with you and this is interesting because the environment around us is not very soothing.
First of all, it's like 105 degrees out. We're literally going through a heat wave.
And also, I'm starting it when actually you're the one interviewing.
Yeah, I've noticed I'm just letting you talk.
This is a tactic that interviewers can do is just let the subject just let them kind of spend their own web.

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All right, anyway, well, I'm already liking your confidence.
That's better than I anticipated.
I thought you were going to sort of lackluster that.
Thank you.
Yeah, anyway, it was interesting watching you try to put this together.
Because that whole thing you just did with the mic stand, let's not reference what's going on.
Okay, I'm going to start asking questions now.
Okay, finally, someone takes charge.

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So, let's do a little icebreaker here.
Favorite color. That's an icebreaker.
What is this kindergarten? Who asks questions like that?
I don't, first of all, I don't like favoritism.
I don't understand it. Sounds like trauma.
No, uh-uh, no. It's not that.
I don't have a problem with it from other people.
I have a problem with it from myself because I'm indecisive in that way.
I feel like if I say a favorite on literally anything, it's going to show that it's not

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my favorite later or that I've missed something in the mix.
Can you just pick a damn color?
Who cares?
Well, if, in no one cares, then why am I answering it?
But it would have been blue a long time ago.
And I don't know if that's seen how we've got to unpack this.
I don't know if that has to do with the fact that the 1950s saw this whole blue versus
pink thing happening, which wasn't a thing before then.

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It was being put in like gowns, the boy or girl didn't matter about gender as it shouldn't,
you know.
I'm going to have to do some research on those dates and I'm not going to correct that.
I hope you don't, but I don't know really if it blew, I think I like the sky.
Although honestly, the sky scares me because it's infinite.
I love the ocean, but it also scares me because it feels infinite even though it's, it's

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not.
It's vast, but it's not as infinite as the sky.
All right.
You know, you're such a Gemini right now.
I really can't even see.
That is my rising sign.
So thank you for acknowledging that part of ourselves, which you normally don't.
You're such a monster.
Thanks so much for labeling me.
I was going to say that you're so pathetic.
Okay.
Well, we're really getting along.
This is another tactic.
We didn't like that icebreaker.
Sure.

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Didn't take two.
Where was your White Ass on January 6th?
Is that better?
Yeah, that's a lot better.
I can tell you exactly where I was and that's that I was at home.
Well, you're stuttering, so I'm not really confident in that.
I definitely wasn't in DC.
I can't even afford to go pay my groceries, let alone fly across the country like that.
You could take a plane train or automobile.
Yeah, great plug for a movie we weren't in and we're not going to get in the remake of

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that.
Who's to say you don't think that you could do that?
Can you move on?
All right.
Here's what I'd like to do.
I'm going to set out the tone of what we're going to do today.
I like when you're getting to a book, you open it and it gives you the chapter line up.
Although the only book I've ever published, which I took off the market, but it didn't
have page numbers because I liked chaos in that moment.
But anyway, I'd like to sit here and do the chapters and that being that I'm going to build

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a foundation of truths here and getting to know you.
And then I'm going to follow up by honing in on a point that you bring about and that's
sort of how we're going to tackle this today.
Okay.
What's a piece of advice that you wish that you could give your younger self?
What is this GQ?
I mean, first of all, I'm not successful in the way that I feel like I could be giving
my younger self advice.

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Don't dismiss yourself.
What would you give yourself advice if you were?
First of all, I'm struggling with my confidence up now.
I'm ready to answer it.
Okay.
So off the bat, I would say the power that you have is finite in this world.
You know, I think everybody needs to keep their ego in check.
So I think that's important.
I don't think I struggled from an ego issue.
So you didn't struggle from that, but that's the first point that you bring out.

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Is that covering or is that the truth?
I don't need to unpack it.
Here's the thing.
I think that power you have in this world is finite.
You know, there's only so much you can do, but you can affect your community.
You can affect your outlook on the world.
You have a very infinite power within yourself in how you react to things, your interpretation

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of scenarios.
Like, for example, if I was on the street right now, somebody came up to me, whether I
know them or not, and they yelled at me, you always have the ability to react back.
There's a million ways that could go, right?
The two biggest could be yelling back at them or crying, you know, those are sort of where
my brain goes to immediately because hello, Gemini, but it's also not just like what your

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reaction is to somebody.
It's also how you're interpreting what they did.
Like, you can immediately go like, I've done something wrong, be self-defeating, or you
can say that had nothing to do with me.
That was so random.
You know, there's a million ways you can interpret something, but you have a lot of power
in the interpretation.
And I think the important thing I'm trying to get at here for my younger self would be
just to comfort yourself and say, you know, whatever's going on around you, you can only

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have your interpretation.
You know, like if everything's sort of like not going well for yourself, you have to try
and find the positive within it and you have to try to stay positive and keep advocating
for yourself and be your own best cheerleader, not your own worst critic.
Yeah, I've heard you say that before.
I like that.
I like that theory there.
Would you say you're anxiously attached or an avoidant attached individual?

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Well, you know me because I'm literally interviewing myself here, but just for shits and giggles,
acting like I'm not interviewing myself, I'll answer it genuinely as I scratch my collar
here.
Nervously would like to say, yeah, I'm an anxious attachment person.
I always have been.
I try really hard to work against that.
I actually have only one friendship currently that I'm anxiously attached to and I'm contemplating

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actually getting rid of that friendship, which then I think would make me sort of an avoidant
attachment instead of like working through it, which is toxic, but I'm an avoidant attachment
within my own feelings and problem solving.
Like I want to anxiously attach myself to anyone, problem solve them, work on whatever
they've got going on completely divest for myself and invest in them only and then I'm

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who am I in the mix?
You know what I mean?
What are your goals in life?
Okay, that was a big jump.
I don't really know how those two connect and I don't think that was a great question follow
up.
I wrote it so you can sort of blame yourself.
Yeah, well, I'm over here pretending that I'm just being interviewed.
So I would like to just comment on what I'm seeing as I'm seeing it.
Goals in my life.
I definitely want to be a show runner and I'm getting to an age now where it's like, am

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I really going to ever have that happen or am I just having this idea in my head?
Like is this something that I am on the train of and it's a good idea or is this something
that I need to reevaluate and re-correct the train?
But I'm going to speak on that and I'm glad I brought it up is that I don't think that there
is a time limit.
Like I don't think that the universe works in a way where you're supposed to do this at

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22 unless you're an athlete or like a ballerina.
Like there's a definite time that would work and not work career wise.
But I think for something like writing, who's to say that it's going to go a certain way
and the industry is in a different footing.
It's not grounded in the way that it was even five years ago.
That apps have really changed up a lot of stuff.

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I don't love to talk about the entertainment industry on this but we're asking me directly
what I do in that capacity.
So when you stop making excuses for like what's being asked and just answer the question
as yourself, you don't need to speak for everyone in the room.
And also the only person in the room is you.
So you're good.
Do you still want me to answer this?

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I mean, I don't even know if I care anymore.
I want to be a show runner and I want to, I don't care what age it happens but I'm working
really steadily on it.
I just, I have a portfolio of things I've written.
It is a four piece thing of sitcom material.
One of them is multi-cam.
One of them is animated the other two are single cam, meaning that you know, it's like a

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30 rock situation.
It's not in front of a live studio audience.
And book series.
I have a book series I'm working on and I'd really like representation for that.
And now I hear a helicopter going by so that's just going to reiterate it for myself.
That's how I choose to see it.
Okay.
I'm going to ignore the ranting you just did.
I don't know if you should though.
I think as an interviewer, maybe you pick up on a point.
Okay.
Well, if you listen and not interrupt, here's what I was going to say.

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Rude.
Those were career goals that you listed, but what are some personal goals that you have?
You know what?
I, I sound angry.
I'm not angry.
That's just how my tone I have a tone problem.
But I, I really don't have personal goals because I'm pretty fulfilled.
I mean, I just talked about, there's like a friendship that I'm anxiously attached to
and I'm concerned about how I'm working on that.

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And what I'm bringing to the table on that.
But outside of that one relationship, I really feel pretty, pretty square.
It's good to be in a good place on all of this.
Like I don't really have expectations for more than this.
Okay.
That's interesting.
So I'm glad to hear that you're happy, but so does that mean you don't want a partner?
I mean, you're single.

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Do you want kids?
No.
I hesitate to ask why you seem aggressive, so I don't really want to push you further.
Okay.
No, I mean, honestly, as an interviewer, I'd like for you to have more of a backbone.
I'll just say that.
Yeah, why more?
Like tell me more.
Yeah, I don't really feel, I never feel like I'm somebody who's going to have a partner
or not have a partner.

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I don't think it matters.
It doesn't matter if you have a partner.
Yeah, I knew we should do a follow-up on that.
I mean, it doesn't matter to me whether or not I have a partner.
And because of that, it doesn't matter to me whether or not I have kids.
I don't intend to raise kids myself.
I don't see that for myself.
I don't want to do that.
But in terms of having a partner, I haven't had the greatest track record in who I pick.

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And how I handle the situations when I am dating someone.
I don't think that I'm a great person to date.
I think I'm a good friend.
I hope I'm a great friend.
Only my friends can answer that.
But I don't find myself happiest when I'm dating.
I find myself anxiously attached and not really myself, not focused on what it is that I want

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to do.
I'm more driven by what I want to.
They talked about this on "Grace Anatomy" actually in the land of Shonda, that iconic world.
People either are career oriented or they're relationship oriented.
And I'm definitely not romantically relationship oriented.
I'm very focused on my friends, hopefully not in an anxiously attached way.

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But I don't care at all about dating.
This is a long answer for a short thing, which is no.
And I don't know why I need to expand on it.
Oh no, I have a better answer for this actually.
I want to find joy within myself.
And if there's a partner that sort of like matches that energy, that's fine.
But I don't, I've lived alone for so long.
And I feel so old in my soul.

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I feel like I've been married even though I've not been married ever.
And I feel like one of my soul cycle journeys for this is to be independent and to really
find joy within myself and to be centered in that.
So I don't think that involves marriage.
I don't think that involves a partner.
I don't even have any interest in dating.
Every time that it comes up that I should be dating or other people are dating and they're

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checking these, I felt a lot of pressure growing up to do those sort of things because everyone
around me was doing them.
And I'm not checking the boxes as quickly as everyone else's in terms of like first kiss or
you know, dating and all of that kind of stuff.
But once I checked those boxes because that's what society was doing and all by society.
I mean, just even my friends around me were doing.

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I was like, I don't care about this.
I don't want to do this.
Like yeah, it's nice to be infatuated with somebody and someone be interested in me.
But I don't, unless, unless the person is in front of me, I'm not seeking it.
And I'm fulfilled without it.
And that's not me covering.
It's not you covering.
No, it's not.
I mean, bringing it up makes it seem like I'm probably am covering, but I'm not.

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I don't have any interest in dating.
And I haven't really ever to be honest.
And I get myself into a lot of trouble trying to make myself interested in dating when
I'm not interested in dating.
Now, in terms of kids, I helped sort of not really, but to some extent, I feel like I was
a third parent to the twins.

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So my brother and sister, so I feel like I've kind of already checked that box and I checked
it really early on.
Having a significant age gap between yourself and your siblings can make you kind of feel that
way.
And either it will make you excited to have your own kids and do it a different way or
it, you know, there's a lot of ways that you could interpret that for yourself.
But for me, it's just completely been like that was so fulfilling and I love them and

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I don't, I'm not their parent.
I feel like I fulfilled whatever it was within me that wanted to go through that experience.
It's done.
Okay.
I'm good on that.
I don't want to ask any more follow-ups.
Yeah, thank God.
G-A-Y-D, because I'm ready to move on.
Where are some fears and some worries that you have?
You know, we have a lot of fears.
The first thing that's coming to my mind is grand delusion.
Like, I feel like a lot of what I want to do is career oriented.

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And even though I'm doing a podcast and it's, you know, essentially just for fun, I want
it to be successful.
And at the end of the day, it's like, do I have anything interesting to say?
I have feelings of, is this all some grand illusion that I have?
And I'm really not.
I'm like self-important in a way that isn't structured towards the career goal that I have.

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Like is the mission statement so not what the mission statement is supposed to be?
I have worries about that and doubts about that all the time.
Those are my biggest fears and worries.
There's nothing, there is nothing bigger than that.
It keeps me up at night sometimes and I'm anxious about it and I feel like I'm going
to be like, who am I kidding and why am I doing this?
And at the end of the day, it's because I love to do it and I enjoy it.

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And that overrides the feeling of, who am I kidding?
All right.
Not what I thought you were going to say.
Well, what did you think I was going to say?
I don't, it doesn't matter.
Anyway, phobias.
Tell me some of your phobias.
I mean, I guess that's a good follow up for fears and worries.
Yeah.
So, can you stop self-evaluating everything I'm doing in the moment?
I would like for you to just talk, please.

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Well, and I would like for you to just ask questions.
So, why don't we both stay in our lanes?
Good luck with that.
I'm uncomfortable around horses.
I mean, there was a time, if my cousins were here, they would tell the story better than
me.
But I got on a horse one time and it, it really was scary.
I mean, it's funny to think about now sort of.
But when I'm around a horse, I still have the fear because I guess it's a little bit triggering.

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I mean, just to be on something that's a wild animal and not really have control.
I like to have control.
I like to have total control.
Yeah, I mean, we're literally interviewing ourselves and then we're editing it ourselves.
So I would say, yeah, we got that from the jump.
Yeah, speaking of the jump, the horse that I was on with my cousins the last time I ever

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went on one, it went away from them.
I couldn't calm it down.
I couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do.
It went away from the track and went totally like, I don't know, a mile into the woods
through another yard, jumped offence.
I felt like a jockey when I got off of it, but I thought at what point is the horse going

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to stop?
Like, is the horse going to, what if it doesn't make this jump?
You know what I mean, all the things that you could possibly be thinking and fearing in
that moment were terrifying and I'm not going to get back on one because I've seen all
these other stories of, you know, like the guy who was Superman who was paralyzed because
they got thrown off of a horse or kicked from a horse or like I even, you know, had a

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cousin that got really hurt by a horse.
So I'm just like, I think my lucky starts, I didn't get hurt from a horse that day and I'm
good.
I don't want to, even if I was acting and I had to be in a period piece, I would not agree
to get on a horse.
I think it's too dangerous.
I also don't like, honestly, the conditions we put the horses through for anything that
is for human needs.
It's so not necessary nowadays.

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We don't need a horse for transportation.
So why would I do it?
Like when I can just get on my hovercraft, you know what I mean?
You know, you have a tendency to always do comedic things and I would like for you to be serious.
Again, stay in your lane.
Yeah, the biggest fear though that I have is that one day we're going to lose gravity and
fall for eternity into the abyss.

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Like that's why I was saying earlier that the sky is both exciting but scary.
I mean, it's a totally irrational fear.
It makes no sense.
I don't even know how we would go about that happening.
I guess the earth would have to stop rotating.
Ah, it just did it for a half of a beat.
No.
And this book falling up, I think is where this comes from.
There was a visual on the cover of it of a boy rising above the pavement, off the sidewalk,

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and falling up.
And I just don't, like, I don't, if I look, I don't have vertigo but I can stand on the
tallest building, can look down but the moment I can't see the horizon, I'm so dizzy
and I'm so uncomfortable and I'm sweating and I'm nauseous and I don't like it at all.
Like, it makes me panic.
I don't love it.
It's not good.
So that would be my biggest phobia, I guess.

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I also really don't like snakes and I think that that could be a past life thing.
I have memories of, you know, something like my first memory here is I was a prince which,
okay, Grand Illusion, hello, 101, but like I was a prince and I was pushed into a pit of
snakes and my hair was eaten.
Do what you will with that but that's my first memory here and I am named Adam.

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And snakes are always something that I think Adams just are naturally going to be scared
of given the story of Adam and Eve.
It's like shoved down our throats and the Christian religion from day one and it terrifies
me.
They terrify me.
I don't want to be a round one.
I don't want to think of one.
I don't want to see one.
Again, would never agree to hold one.
I had a friend in college that had a pet snake and when we were at parties, I would try

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really hard to hold it and I didn't want to hurt the snake, of course, but I was like,
take it back, take it back, take it back.
It took everything within me as soon as I was touching it, not to let it go and let it
fall on the ground, which would hurt the snake.
I would never want that to happen, but I also just don't why did I agree to touch it?
That's not something that's in my wheelhouse.
Some things you just can't expand and you don't need to.

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I would tell my younger self that you don't need to do, you don't need to go outside of
your comfort.
You don't need to.
For who?
Why?
Like, I don't need to fall out of a plane.
I don't need to do that.
I don't need to trigger myself.
I'm good.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
And here's a phobia that fascinates me though.
Sure.
I mean, it's interesting.
I've asked you one question and you talk on it for like five minutes.

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That's why I'm a great interview.
E, I don't know if I'm a great interviewer.
Ouch.
I am so interested in trick to phobia and people, it's like when you see like a beehive
pattern in something, you know, all those little dots everywhere and that scares people.
Not trick or word.
No, trick to phobia is a fear of hair.

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A phobia is the fear of a pattern of holes.
So close, but no cigar.
I find that to be interesting.
That fascinates me.
Yeah, me too, because we're the same person.
Now, tell me some things because that was a lot that give you unbridled joy.
Making somebody laugh.
I'm always really impressed with myself when I can do that.
And I know that's sort of like, all right, you're impressed with yourself.
But I don't care.
I'm impressed with myself when I make somebody laugh.

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It really makes me happier in my life than doing that.
And outside of that, I mean, my answers are all over the place.
Like, I'd love to see indigenous people thriving because indigenous voices are heard
the least out of anything, especially in the States.
So I like to see indigenous people thriving.
We don't see it enough.
I love giraffes.
Oh, you have no idea.
Seeing a tall, tall neck, it just really gives me, ugh, I could cry.

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We went to the zoo one time and I literally like attacked a giraffe.
We were supposed to be feeding it and they were like, don't touch it.
And I literally wrapped my arms all the way around its neck and I was like, I don't even
care if this kills me.
I do not care.
I couldn't resist.
I need this for myself.
My soul has to heal from this.
I'll never do one of those again.
I think that's inappropriate.
And like, that's another example of things like a horse that we just don't need to be around

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and why was I in that environment and why was that animal in that environment?
But anyway, I took advantage of it.
Sorry.
And I also, this is not appropriate as a follow-up, but I love little people.
I just love them.
I just really love them.
I just love them.
Oh, so where does all of this comedy come from?
I mean, you've got a lot of fears and you've got a lot of phobias.
Yeah, I mean, trying to make light of the world is a simple answer, but honestly, here's

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the truth.
And I thought on this because I pre-wrote these questions.
But misinterpretation, mishearing, earwax, like honestly, I have a very small baby canal
situation in my ears.
I have to go and get my ears cleaned out.
I have to get them irrigated every soften, which is the most unattractive quality of myself
in my opinion.

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And I can't believe I just said that on the record.
So I bought myself an earwax cleaning kit and I'm loving it because I don't have to pay
for them to do it.
And I don't have to do the embarrassment of like them being like, wow, there's a lot of
build up going on here.
I bet you can hear a lot better now, finally.
And I'm like, yeah, sort of.
But yeah, I miss here things all the time.

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And I don't know if it's a creative licensing with them or it is that literal earwax.
But I all the time am hearing things wrong.
And then I write it down because what I heard is so insane.
Like somebody, this is going to be a bad example.
But somebody will be like, this is blue paper.
And what I'm hearing is like, whiz Khalifa is in the building.
And I'm like, what did, how did I get from A to B there?

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Like I don't understand what that was.
And then I'm like, what if Whiz Khalifa was here right now?
Like what would that be like and why would Whiz Khalifa be in my apartment?
Because that's the physical building I'm in right now.
And like what are we doing?
You know what I mean?
Are we having a video game session or like, are we writing a song together?
You know, those kind of thoughts.
And I said it was a bad example.
And it was.
And now I want blue paper.
Miss hearing something like that just is right for comedy because anything you say is

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open for interpretation by these simple years.
Okay, I'd like to ask you, do you know how to shut the fuck up?
No.
Oh, that's my shortest answer.
Oh, son.
So what frustrates you?
You.
You, I frustrate myself.
No one frustrates me like myself.
Do you want to give some examples?
No, I'd really rather not.
Okay, like I make weird noises all the time.

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I wish I had more control over my voice.
Like I think that I hold in my breath a lot and forget to breathe.
And then when I'm hearing myself breathe aloud like that right there that it drives me crazy.
I edit them out in the podcast as much as possible.
But I talk so fast I forget to breathe sometimes.
That annoys me.
I get annoyed by the simplest things.
Like I have a hard time moving my body sometimes.

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This is like something that really irritates the hell out of me.
I feel like I'm in a cyborg.
Like I feel like I'm in a VR system.
And and I'm trying to do something very simply and succinctly.
And I have a hard time getting my body to do it.
Like I'll be like, if I'm too tired or if I'm having brain fog, I like I can't get my
my arm to do the thing that I want it to do.
It happens a lot.

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It's happened honestly a lot since COVID I've noticed.
I don't know if it's a long term side effect or it's something I've always done or I'm
just more impatient the older I'm getting.
But it drives me insane.
I'll be like, Adam, pick it up.
I have to talk in the third person all the time because I don't want to literally be upset
with myself.
So I call myself Adam to not be like self-defeating or like I get so frustrated with myself sometimes.

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I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
Like I'm like, I don't like, am I supposed to scream right now?
I have to defuse the bomb.
And so I have to count to three.
Randy had this great idea count to 10.
But like I'm not patient enough.
I count to three.
And just pray that I've made it there because I'm like, uh-uh.
No.
Just grab the paper.
Grab the paper.
And now I'll shut the fuck up because you just asked me that rude question.

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Okay.
Let's name some things you're good at.
You're good at so many things.
Pass.
Okay.
What's the worst job you've ever had?
I don't even know if I want to talk about this.
I don't really think I do.
I mean some of the jobs I've had have been absolutely insane.
I don't know why we would get to this.
Like what brought you to this question off of the things we were just talking about?
Okay.

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What kind of worker are you?
And don't give me a LinkedIn answer.
I actually wasn't.
It depends on the task.
I mean honestly, I'm probably going to be too honest to a fault here.
I think I, if it, like, work like this, I love doing anything creative.
I love doing.
But as soon as I don't feel like I have any creative license, I'm a very lazy worker.
I'm going to do the bare minimum.
I don't want to do it.

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I'm not self-motivated.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let's edit that out.
Please.
Hello.
Uh-uh.
No.
I'm not selling myself short in case anyone's out there.
I want to hire me.
I'm a hard worker.
That is so silly of me.
Haha, I was joking.
Funny.
So funny.
Okay, you're speaking for yourself.
Jim and I move.
That's how you interpret it.

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But you always get the job done and you work really hard.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
Middle ground, me there somewhere.
I don't know.
I worry about who would ever listen to this answer.
So I might have to just delete this.
How do you define a job?
Because you just talked about creative versus non-creative spaces.
Okay.
Like when I worked in a restaurant, that's not a creative job.
There's a, you could be creative in the way that you approach tables, like guests or like

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how you try to get tips.
But I'm not motivated by that.
I'm not motivated by the money of that.
That's interesting that you say that because if I could replay the track, you literally
talked about earlier that you are motivated, like you go to work for the money.
No, we haven't gotten to that yet.
That's something you thought in your head.
I, I, that is true.
Like, I am somebody who I'm at work for the money and then I'm creatively working

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on whatever and I'm hoping that the creative things that I do and work on in love are
eventually going to make me money.
But I'm not, I don't know.
I'm not somebody who like only is here for a paycheck.
Like I have been without work for the past two months because there's a, a lull in my industry
and I'm not motivated to look for other jobs because I don't want to work outside of this
field.
I mean, I have been looking, hold on.

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Approved PR statement.
I am applying for jobs when I'm like, ho, I'm not even really hoping I get them and I
haven't been even getting an interview for any of them because they're not in the
same field in this two month lull that I have, you know.
So I mean, I would define a job as who's the most misunderstood person?
I don't understand your linearity with these questions.

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Like I don't understand where you're heading from or to like off of that you could have asked
like, I don't know what's your favorite job or like, so when's the time you felt really
confident in work or like what's your goals for your next job or whatever, but here we
go.
I'll answer this.
Most misunderstood.
I feel like a lot of people are misunderstood because honestly, I feel like most people are
not really listening to one another, you know, says the person who's literally

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interviewing themself.
Yeah, I'll point to myself first.
I'm talking about myself.
No, I think that we often dismiss people and we, I don't, it's not the same thing as cancel
culture.
I'm not talking about that, but I'm saying a lot of people like they just don't have the
chance to fail.
Like, I don't know as a human, we need to be able to learn and grow and this and something

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not be our worst moment and like no one's perfect and I just feel like we need to hear
people out more.
Okay, so now you're a peacemaker.
No, don't get it twisted.
I'm a hater.
100%.
I love that aspect of human society.
I think that the more people, more people should be judgmental, but in a way of like I'm still
letting you learn and grow.
Like I'm judging you and I'm telling you to your face what I'm thinking about it in a

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way that maybe you can learn from this and grow from this and maybe we can be friends
after this, you know what I mean?
But also in terms of cancel culture, I can't wait to be damned because then I'll finally
see what I've been seeing in myself all along.
Like no one gets more annoyed with themselves than I do and I'm like see, I told you, I told
you I was fucking annoying.
Yeah, I really don't want to turn off the 10 listeners that we do currently have.

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We're trying to build the brand not to diminish it.
So well, you should have thought about that before you enter.
Typical me.
I have annoyed myself to the point that I need a break in the editor's room.
So this seems like a perfect place as any to stop this jekyll and hide momentum and
let's hear a calming word from my mother.
Hey everybody, this is Linda LaFay and I've always got something to say and today's topic

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is about grooming.
And it is pretty unfortunate that I feel like I need to talk about this but I'm just going
to have to do it because I have paid attention even to some people in my family.
I'm sorry, I'm calling you out.
She ain't talking about me so don't think it's about me.
I wouldn't have put it in here if it was.
You need to take a minute to look down at your feet.
I'm looking down.

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Mine are looking good.
I'm gay, honey.
I'm getting pedicures.
So again, not me.
Look at your toenails and you need to say to yourself, "Self, am I presenting myself in
the best light possible?"
Now if you can't bend your tall body, you're aching back down to reach those long toes.
And if you can't see well enough to see that those toenails need clipping or that there

(29:31):
is toe jam down up in there, that is a pity but I'm going to tell you something.
That is nasty all.
So you need to just pay attention and if you're going to wear open toe shoes and yes,
I'm speaking to women and men.
But I'm very sorry.
I'm primarily talking to you, men.
Self.
Am I proud of these toes?
And if the answer is no, you need to do something about it.

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Drive to the manicure and pedicure store.
There's plenty of men sitting in there.
You might find that you like the little massage chair before they take care of your toes.
And of course, yes, they're going to soak them in some warm water and you're going to like
it.
Because they're not going to want to touch those funky feet.
It's a good idea to do that every once in a while and you know who you are.
That truly wasn't that soothing.

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Now I'm self conscious.
Okay.
Anyway, love her.
Here's a word from my dad.
I asked.
Oh, you know what?
Because I didn't interview someone today.
I would love to hear from you about what noise you hear when you are backing out of an
awkward situation or just a situation you want to exit and it's not coming soon enough.

(30:39):
You know mine is the beep beep beep.
Send me an audio recording to @You've Got an Hour on Instagram.
I'd love to hear what noises you've got in mind.
And then I'm going to compile them for a very special episode in the future.
Okay.
I guess we'll jump back into this tennis match from hell.
Here we go.

(30:59):
So basically what I'm hearing is that this interview is trauma dumping.
Why do this?
My therapist wouldn't agree to do the interview.
Okay.
So this is a therapy session for you.
Interesting.
What do you wish this interview was about?
Well, we've talked about, I wish there was a specific topic and we were talking about
that one topic.
I don't understand this whole like getting to know you, getting to know every single thing

(31:20):
about you.
The questions have been all over the place.
Yeah, that's something that I should probably focus in on more.
But when I'm interviewing people, I want them to bring the topic.
You know, that's the point of it.
And so you're blaming me.
I didn't bring a topic.
Yeah, a little bit.
Other than grief, what's the hardest thing you've ever had to overcome?
Well, I don't think you really overcome grief, to be honest.
The older I'm getting, the more I'm realizing, I think you carry whatever that was with you

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because grief packs on a lot of other stuff.
It's not just like the loss of a person.
It's the going through motions of not having a person here and it's also the whole like
holding on to what you thought life was going to look like.
You're holding on to the ideas of what you expected from life and where you thought you
were going to be.
Hopefully think about it less and less.

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You hope to be like Dory.
You hope to forget it.
It's not good.
I don't love it.
I hate that anyone and everyone pretty much is going through grief at all the time.
We need to be a lot kinder to each other because of it.
But I would say the hardest things I've been through are ending a friendship.
That moment of deciding if we're going to end a friendship and then once you've ended
a friendship, trying not to regret ending the friendship or evaluating it more.

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It's like, oh, you just beat that to a pulp.
I would say even more difficult than that.
And this is part of that.
It's encompassed in that ending of friendship thing is rerouting a toxic pattern.
That is so hard.
Retraining yourself because first of all, you have to acknowledge the pattern exists.
It's like going through AA with yourself.

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You know, like, hey, this is not benefiting you.
This is not a good idea.
This isn't a line with you.
Maybe it'll line with you previously and it doesn't even matter if it did.
But wherever you are now, it doesn't align.
Whether it's a friendship or a habit or, you know, a way that you attach to things or a way
that you talk or a way that you approach work or, you know, you got to constantly evolve

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as you're human.
You're growing constantly.
I think that you're only getting better, hopefully.
You're not improving.
You don't like becoming adult at X age and for you, whatever number you thought of was
wrong.
It's not 21.
It's not 30.
It's not 40.
It's not 60.
It's not retirement.
It's constantly on a journey of life for a reason and that's to grow into change.

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And so being malleable and seeing toxic patterns whenever they arise and changing them is a good
idea.
Maybe you're somebody who perpetually dates people all the time and you have it within
your wheelhouse to just settle and not do that.
You might not need a person around you or maybe you're someone who avoids even trying
to find love and it's like, hey, maybe I could enjoy that.

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And then if you don't change again, you know, okay, what would be yours?
I would be probably accepting that I'm smart because I am.
I dismiss myself a lot.
A lot of my comedy has at times been to dumb myself down and dumb down my smartness, but
I'm a pretty smart person and I don't need to dismiss that.
I'm not the smartest person always in the room, but currently I am.
I'm definitely smarter than that half over there.

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And that's how you should end the interview right there because what a rude statement.
BEEP BEEP BEEP.
Clip.
So hardest things for you, I'm hearing we're not things like moving across the country
when you didn't know anyone in another city or not having a job there, not coming out.
None of that.
No, and I actually resent that you would even bring either of those things up for as a
mainstream answer.

(34:34):
See, that actually could be a good question for somebody else.
But it was a bad question for me because you know I don't enjoy those things and that's
good that maybe I wanted you to talk about it.
Okay.
But I think that the coming out story is so boring and I don't ever want to talk about
that with anyone.
I don't ever want that to be a topic.
I think it's just so boring.
I don't understand the need for it.

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I think even if you explain it to me like I'm a simpleton, even though you just admitted
were both smart, at the end of the day I need things explained to me like I am almost illiterate
because I don't grasp the concept of coming out, coming out of what.
I wasn't really in denial in the first place.
I just discovered a truth of myself and it was like I can either celebrate this or

(35:19):
it can just be another day.
And I think it should just be another day for myself.
Everybody can do what they need to do and I don't want to dismiss.
See, coming out is like such a complicated thing for so many people and for me I'm so impatient.
Like anyone that wasn't on board with it, I was like get it together and get on with it.
Like you want a relationship with me or not?
Who cares?
Like why is this even a factor?
Why are we even talking about this?

(35:40):
Like I'm not talking about your romantic life and the slightest.
I don't care in that way.
I'm not beholden to it.
You know, talk about it with me if you want but not in a way that's like, oh I'm judging
this in a way that I can't understand it and I'm never going to understand it and I can't
comprehend it.
What's there to understand?
It doesn't involve you.
I just don't care.
I'm not patient with it.
It's just silly.
It's a silly thing.

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I think children growing up supposed to be this liberating thing and it's amazing thing
but we all have an imprint in a vision of like, you know, this is what I hope my kid
is.
I hope this I'm raising the kid better than I raised myself where I hope that the kid
is better than I am and they have more than I did and like all of these things and
I don't think any of that's healthy and I think that learning through having a kid as

(36:24):
a parent, learning through that would be probably one of the more rewarding things you
could have as a human because you're like, no, this idea that I had for you, it really
had more to do with myself and I'm growing a lot through having a kid.
Plus kids teach you a lot of patience.
I don't know why I'm talking about kids.
I don't want one.
Sounded like you did.
Let me take this.
Okay.

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What are some topics you'd like to discuss on the show?
Oh good.
I hope you're starting to wrap this out.
Well, anything that people are again and clear wanting to talk about, I think is good.
I try to filter through what I think is going to work and not work for the show or if I
have an idea for a sample on the show, like I have this DJ that I'm going to bring onto
the show and he's a plumber and I think that's an interesting concept and I want to talk

(37:05):
about how he got into that and I also want to play a game with him about like shit humor
and jokes like that because I'm five.
But aside from topics specifically like that one, I don't, unless I'm pitching a segment,
I like people and whomever I am friends with and I'm like, you would be a good guest, but
what would you want to talk about?
I let them pitch it to me.
I let them pitch it and then we kind of shape it from there.

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I do want to get more specific about getting to the meat of the story and where they're
at with it because those real conversations are what I think the show is about and hopefully
where the show thrives.
So I think that's what today is about is like working on that.
Do you think we successfully did that?
No, not at all.
I think we're going to do this about six more times and I don't even know which version of

(37:50):
this is going to get aired if any.
Okay, I'll determine that.
What would be something you love as a topic?
Okay, so motherhood, we talked about that.
Friendships are always interesting.
Those are two dynamics that every single person, no matter who you are, has a relationship
with one another on.
We all have a mother.
Whether you know her or not is a different story or chosen mother versus your real mother
or whatever.

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Everybody has different circumstances coming to it and from friendships.
We've all gone through various states of our friendships, friendship breakups, front
new friendships, excitement.
You know, all of those degrees of it are interesting to me and I don't think I'll ever get
sick of talking of either of those.
So love those topics.
And I'm less interested, honestly, in discussing dating and someone's dating life because I think

(38:32):
that that's something that I shouldn't be telling someone what to do and I can be a
soundboard for it, but it doesn't really make for an interesting conversation because how
is that going to work out for them?
You need to be working on that together with your person and not in a public forum.
I don't think that's healthy.
I think that's so toxic.
That's a toxic pattern that people need to break.
I know that we love reality TV and I love working in reality TV, but I don't think practically

(38:57):
speaking unless it's for the form of entertainment, like your real relationship.
If you're really interested in it, you don't need to be in a public forum.
It's not going to benefit from it at all.
It's not.
There are some topics you would like.
Anything scientific?
I mean, I would like to have some scientists on here to explain, like, for example, there
was this recent discovery of dark oxygen at the base of the ocean because photosynthesis

(39:19):
is the delivery of oxygen on Earth.
They thought as the only entity for that.
And now they're finding that there could be somebody did this study and they found that
through rocks, through minerals, oxygen was being developed at the base of the sea.
And I think that's fascinating, things like that or whatever's going on with Pluto these
days, or as if it's someone we can just check in on.

(39:41):
But science, resources are always interesting.
I like that dynamic.
I like that.
And stuff like that.
Interesting, because I'm kind of talking about relationship dynamics and you're talking about
learning outside of and expanding.
So that's something we need to get more clear on as a brand, probably, right?
Oh, we're in agreement.

(40:02):
This isn't a hallmark card.
So I'll just stop us there.
Which of these questions are tactics?
Would you keep moving forward?
I think that's a good question.
Don't act like it's not.
I don't think I would keep any of them because I'm not going to interview myself ever again.
So I don't know how helpful this was.
I'm going to have to practice with other humans.
Like this is not, I don't find this to be interesting or helpful.

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Why do you have such a hatred for authority?
Hmm.
See, that's a good question and that's something that maybe you should ask yourself.
I literally am asking myself, and just like an atom, I'm not answering it.
In terms of creativity, what's off limits?
Nothing.
But I think anyone listening to this, there's obvious answers.
And you already have them filled in.

(40:44):
You know, anything that's ostracizing a certain group or making a monster out of a certain
group, you know, unless that group is a monster.
That's different.
Superhero stories exist for a reason.
But I think that, you know, those are not things that even should be considered.

(41:04):
So I don't really, I don't even know why anyone's complaining about this like, this like,
woke thing or this like, cancel thing.
It's like, it's obvious what's right and wrong.
I don't really understand this narrative that society has about like, oh, comedies.
But like, doing fat jokes isn't funny.
Like I don't get why anyone's doing that.

(41:25):
I don't get why anyone's doing anything that would or even want to talk about, you know,
the accent of somebody or like the way that somebody doesn't process information that
you're talking to.
But they're from somewhere else.
Like all of that stuff, build the wall.
Like I don't, that's not funny.
It's really sad that you're making your circle smaller.

(41:46):
I don't know why you're doing that.
At some point, you're going to get kicked out the circle too.
Others should not be judge and jury on anything and I don't agree with people saying, oh, we
need to joke about that because you're ostracizing them when you do that.
You're kicking them.
And a lot of times the people you're kicking are already down, you know, they need help.

(42:06):
They don't need to be kicked.
So I mean, really, I guess a true answer would be nothing, but also those things that's,
those aren't going to be topics and things that I'm talking about.
But somehow 9/11 is okay.
That's on the board.
I don't know why.
I don't know.
Like trauma like that is something we've all experienced or that a character has experienced
that they can speak from directly and like try to make light of it and try to make a joke

(42:29):
out of it.
To me, that's funny.
I don't know.
What do you think?
I'm not answering that.
I'm not taking that bait.
I mean, that's a pretty crazy thing to talk about.
What's the craziest thing you've ever written?
Where do I start?
I mean, I think the craziest thing I've probably ever written was called Intergalactic
Fans Only.

(42:52):
Take pictures for their only fans.
They work in a society where sex work is the penultimate.
It's not a backwards profession, even though it's the oldest profession in Earth's history.
You know, it's like, it's interesting that we've made a monster out of this thing that everybody
has sex.
It's like an organic, unless you're asexual and there's nothing weird or wrong with that.

(43:14):
And me spelling it out like that makes it weird.
Hold on, let me rephrase this.
Restart.
So Intergalactic Fans Only was an interesting project that I worked on.
It is in my portfolio and I'm very proud of it.
It takes the idea of this sort of Bible Bell anti-sex, anti-expression, you know, sex
work is really a monster kind of thing.

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And Flipson on its head and says, you know, this is an alien species that crash lands here
to do some sex work.
They use Earth as a background for their only fans.
And little do they know they've landed on a society that is an absolute dumpster fire that
completely hates that and thinks that is just the nastiest thing ever.
And that juxtaposition from someone who lives in a society where that is the penultimate

(44:01):
career, to me, is very interesting.
And that's, it's crazy in the sense that I don't know if I even explained that well.
Also I wrote this thing called Honestville where the one thing you're not allowed to do
in society is lie.
And I love that facet.
It's a little bit post-apocalyptic, you know, the states are no longer the states, but the

(44:22):
outer banks are where people are thrown literally catapulted to and maybe they'll survive the
fall, maybe they won't.
But if you survive it and you are over there, you live like a pirate.
You have to figure it out.
There's no rules.
There's nothing going on except for the fact that you can't lie in that society.
That's something they won't forgive, but like kill somebody and I for an eye, they don't

(44:43):
care.
Like there's no other rule.
You just can't lie.
You can never lie.
It's not an animated series.
That's one of my single cam options and I really love it.
I think it's really fun.
I also wrote something really, I mean everything I write is crazy.
I could talk about this all day, but honestly, the wildest thing that I wrote, I'll reinterpret
this.
I wrote something called Out with the Buzzards.

(45:04):
It's a book.
I had never written a book before.
It's a book series that I'm very interested in.
I mean, I'm very interested in sort of like the Octavia Butler, Margaret Atwood, Post-apocalyptic,
societal expressions and how far religion goes in terms of things.
I'm very fascinated by that.
I think it's a dangerous toe that we are always on the line of tiptoeing too far over.

(45:28):
I think it's a great thing for people to have a connectivity with the universe and with
themselves naturally.
I think humans being in charge of what God thinks and for me, G-A-Y-D, thinks is very problematic
and should not be done.
We should not try to interpret that.
So I'm fascinated with it and I have a book where it's like the third generation it's

(45:51):
not like.
It is the third generation after the fall of the states.
It's called The Square.
Everybody has to fit into the box.
I love a metaphor of whatever this society thinks is acceptable and if you don't fit within
that box, you're a threat.
So there are people that are slowly developing because we mutate and we do to an extent evolve.

(46:15):
I'm not saying that we gain superpowers but the universe is looking at it and saying this
is an unacceptable way for the humans to live and it's totally threatening our planet in
a way that the earth is going to get rid of you.
So let me try and keep my species here by granting you these visions and the visions are an interconnectivity

(46:36):
to other people that are outside of that check box and they do end up developing a skill
set that is magical.
So the first one develops in the theory of air.
This is an airborne individual meaning that they can fly and they do have indigenous reincarnated
individuals that are akin to witches that overlook them and they are buzzards.

(47:00):
They are literally at the end of a life cycle digesting death, consuming death.
They're overlooking the society as it's dying and they are going to have this person who
can see visions.
They've been waiting for someone with visions like them to train and to course correct and
that person is their story from start to end and each of the books that I would write would

(47:25):
be that.
The second one is about someone that is like a mere person essentially and it's a trans
allegory as well because I think Little Mermaid was that and I would like to see it express
more explicitly and directly.
So the second book is that and they're kind of connected in this way of not fitting into
the gender spectrum and other things but it's air and it's water directly.

(47:48):
And they both have skill sets with that.
So that series is interesting.
Every book would be an individual journalistic style expression of one person start to finish
on the path to the final book which would be sort of like an avenger's story of them coming
together and correcting the earth and what does that look like?

(48:10):
What does that look like?
And I'm not going to spoil it but that's really fun for me.
Something I write in a book form is something that I feel very nervous to even talk about.
I mean I like talking about it but I feel nervous for anyone to ever read it because it's
such a big mission statement.
I don't know that it could ever be accomplished and I don't know if it achieves the person

(48:31):
that I'm impressioning after because it's definitely like that one is very much clearly
Margaret Atwood clearly Octavia Butler's style of writing.
Those are very big tasks but a little bit also Neil Gaiman and the magical sense and a lot
of Truman Capote in the truth telling gender spectrum gender dysphoria avenue as well.

(48:53):
So like those four writers are quintessential to my vocabulary.
I love Virginia Woolf but no one would read in a modern context the type of simplistic
stories that are being told there in a complicated manner.
I mean she's unpacking like real emotions and it's so thought heavy.
I love to read it.
I don't know that it would work in a mainstream avenue and I struggled with the tone of that

(49:17):
book and I may never achieve it because it was very Virginia Woolf and the way that it
was written and this person wants to be a poet they don't fit into that society in that
way just another way that they don't fit into the box because it's not an essential role
in society.
It really it kind of isn't.
You are a creative soul and you need to express that but it doesn't mean that you are valued
by society in a way that's like here is money for that.

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Here's survival for that.
You know it's an artist lifestyle can be very difficult and in this society it is it
couldn't be more difficult.
So I struggled with the tone and the style and the rhythm of it.
I completely wrote the book when I was in high school and then stopped you know because
I was like this doesn't work.

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No one's going to read it like this.
I can't sell this and then I rewrote it during the pandemic.
And I've been editing it since which is good.
Sometimes you can over edit something.
You don't feel like you're over editing it.
Okay that was a leading question but no I don't think I have.
I think the first half is at a place now where an editor can really look at it and say

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let's remove this is triggering or this is this needs to be expanded upon more and then
part two of the book which I don't know if it would be released as one entity or two
has a lot of facts and gets you up to speed with why society is like this.
And then also they literally end up taking flight at the beginning of the first part.
So the second part needs to deal with the emotionality but also the truth of this person's

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skill set, this new skill set and what does that mean for society around them and how they're
viewed in it.
So part two is essential to the story and I don't want it to be two books personally but
from a sales tactic I think it could be more alluring for it to be two books.
It's just a lot less fantastical in part one than it is in part two.

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As society is I think that if you're an individual that has an eye opening experience let's just
imagine that superheroes were real but you didn't ever know about them aliens are real
but you didn't ever have experience with one and then you encounter one one day your whole
world perspective has changed.
So part two is drastically different than part one because there's a lot of change that's

(51:31):
happened and there's a lot of growth that happens forcibly so from this person's perspective
but at the end of the day it's also a murder sort of anthology so I don't know there's
a lot going on there I don't even know how we would sell it but that's that's the wildest
thing I've ever written.
So I was gonna ask what's the thing you're most excited to do written but it sounds like
that was the most excited thing you've ever written.
It is and it isn't.

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I mean everything I've written is a precious baby I mean these to me like I don't intend
to have children these are my children and I'm very interested in the stories that I'm
hoping to tell and share because they curate conversation.
I hope they curate conversation I hope they curate that dialogue I love to talk.
Yeah bitch we know okay calm down but I do think at the end of the day the thing that

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I'm most interested in today and currently is it's a pilot called casted you know you're
not really supposed to say I casted you in this as I cast you in this but it takes a look
at the industry I am part of and I'm blessed to be part of but not from today's perspective
like it's 20 years ago it's it it allowed me to do a lot of research on why the business

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is the way that it is or the way that it used to operate which is totally different
and that's exciting for me that that is interesting you know it takes the sort of like project runway
aspect and it questions a lot about what has changed in the business and what hasn't and
because it is essentially a period piece because 20 years ago you know around that post 9/11

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right after time period that's a different whole set of society things 20 years ago is
a different time period so it's a period piece and it's fun to write those I mean that was
a very pivotal time within my own youth so I really loved going there and writing from
an adult perspective all of that that was really interesting I'm not saying 9/11 plays

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a role in it there are some 9/11 jokes in it because it's in an appropriate situation
it's like it's like a the office it's like 30 rock you know they're trying to make light
of some things that they don't quite grasp or understand or are comfortable with so
there are delete that from don't say that there are interesting jokes that are made and
it pushes the label and and button on some hot topic issues and it's intentional to drive

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a conversation about what has changed or not so that to me is a really interesting and
fun thing that I've written and I got to interview some people that you know worked around
that time I'm not going to say that anyone that worked on project runway was interviewed
for it because I'm not going to throw them under the bus or anything but like it was really

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fun for me to dive into that I love fashion and I love casting I love reality TV so all
of that to write about was really really fun for me and I think I achieved it I think I
did a really good job with it it's a very strong ensemble piece and I have re I have
high hopes for it whether or not it goes anywhere it's one of the better things I've written

(54:33):
I'll say that either that or the multi cam the multi cam I wrote I'm also really excited
about because it's about two people who I'm just like pitching all my stuff now yeah you
really are this became an ad for your writing which I don't really know if that's interesting
well I'll just say it because I already started it but it's a multi cam for my friend Stephanie
and I you've seen her on the show or you've heard her on the show and she's a great actor

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and I just over the course of time we were like we should I should write something that
we could play to our strengths on and multi cam is really where she thrived and I've
always wanted to do multi cam because I love a live audience but I don't like doing the
same script over and over I like want to really get their reaction and enjoy it and feed
off of it and then move on you know but the same characters it's fun to play them so long

(55:17):
as they're having a new set of circumstances so multi cam isn't thriving right now and
I want to bring it back so badly and I don't know that I'm the person to do it but why
wouldn't I try to have that going on I mean Carol Bernad I love Lucy all of these people
and all of the shows that they had in front of live audiences sign filled friends they're
so fun they're such there's so much room for them and we really like it I mean it's fun

(55:43):
for us to watch it feels like you're watching a play think of golden girls absolutely fabulous
LeVernin Shirley you know all these shows Martin living single hello they're fun so why wouldn't
we try to bring it back anyway so it's to sort of white Lotus Esque people they're affluent
they're elitist they're assholes and they on a whim after her second divorce meet in an

(56:09):
airport and they fly out to this vineyard that she bought on a whim in Europe and they're
just gonna start their new life with this unsuccessful vineyard rebranding it and that's what the
show's about it's about this it's called the wine down and I just love it anyway I'm pitching
that because it's wine Wednesday you get it because that's when the episodes come out yeah

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I walked away for a minute but I'm back yeah so I mean we know you love to write I mean you
literally wrote the center view so this was mostly scripted I don't want anyone to know
that this was essentially scripted I don't want them to know that well you did and I'm
the interviewer and I'm gonna be transparent at all times when I'm interviewing people I don't
know what I'm supposed to learn from this I think that it's more about listening and letting the

(56:52):
interviewer talk and trying to push them in the right direction but the topic needs to be really
really clear from the jump and it does need to be about two besties talking about what they're
going through not pop problem solving it but like having a real genuine conversation about it
and we're listening in on it and throughout the process the interconnectivity is that we're all
creative at our hearts yeah and that's why I wouldn't use any of this tactics that I use today so you

(57:17):
agree with me thanks fuck off you're welcome at this point in the interview I'd literally through one
of my microphones on the ground what a frustrating process if you're still with us I can't believe you are
congratulations you made it through basically me pushing the agenda of my writing stuff when really

(57:37):
I should have had a topic going into this that I really wanted to focus on and digest all of my
interest and pick apart my brain on oh well maybe I'll do that next time what topic should it be oh hell
we're not out of the clear yet I picked my mic back up you know I think to wrap this out I just want
to say that first of all we're definitely out of time like I need to reclaim my time here you had

(58:02):
an hour okay and that's great you did a great job of being interviewed but I don't know that I did a
great job interviewing you like I asked literally 12 questions and you just really ran with it so that's
something we're gonna continue to need to work on oh my god the air's on quick somebody turn
both of their mics off this is the time you never cease to annoy me oh you know who wants to have

(58:26):
a word at the end here can you guess who it's not me that's right it's and PS you mean a whole lot of
you you got hair growing out your ears and I'm gonna tell you something that needs to be trimmed and
if it's a cultural thing to let it be there I'm not talking to you but the rest of all of you you
need to take a look see that's not something that is pretty it is nasty and you get your little nose

(58:50):
tremor and head up in there you hear me that is so yeah anyway thank you so much for listening to
the podcast next week we will not have me interviewing myself so hopefully if you didn't like this
you can skip over to that one and really enjoy it again or if you did love this we can bring it back
as a recurring segment with themes that you really enjoy remember to like and subscribe the

(59:12):
podcast and also send me an audio of the sound you hear when you're backing out of a situation
last but not least I want to give a big shout out to my bestie Colleen this was her idea she
encouraged me to do this and really asked that I do it and I enjoyed doing it so hopefully Colleen

(59:34):
you enjoy it and others do as well see you next you won't see me no damn it hear me next time
this has been you've got an hour exactly oh my god almost exactly this is the most on time I've been
can you believe it how punctual I am when it's just me say psych real quick Adam because seriously oh my
god I'm back in reverb no no enough with the smieble one personality from here out click