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Hi there. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for checking in or tuning in or whatever you call it with us.
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I don't know the terminology and that's obvious from the jump if you didn't know.
Oh, I gotta get close.
You do have to get closer. We'll test the levels never. I don't have an audio engineer.
Do you need a pillow behind you? Is it too complicated?
I don't know what the fuck I need.
It looks great. It looks great. You're doing great, sweetie.
You're doing great, sweetie. Oh, that's who I'll say I'm having on today.
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I'm so excited that I have Chris Jenner. Oh my god.
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No, it's my friend Stephanie.
Stephanie's back by popular demand not just because I love her,
but because a lot of you have been asking as a follow-up.
You know, what happened with her friendship? Where is that at?
So we get all into it. We're talking about friendships and how they should be a two-way street,
not a one-way street. I think that's really important to remember as we're moving forward in our own lives.
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So that's the topic. But of course, first we're going to start with games and I have to say,
a lot of you gave feedback in regards to how you could only hear me in one of your ears.
Well, now you should be able to hear me in both.
So turn your hearing aids up if you can't. And here we go. We're going to launch into it.
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Wow. Yes.
We kept saying earlier. I know. Me too. Don't you wish you had that money.
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Holy shit. I wish.
The new season has been boring, though. Have you been watching it?
Yeah, I'm not. I mean, listen, there's always that element of just like,
oh my god, I want their lives, right? That's really a big reason why everybody watches it.
But as far as the storylines, there's never been really that great.
No, but I will say now it feels so much like a cash cow.
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Disney is really milking them for the advertisement money.
This whole season, they've had an arc about the Golden Bachelor and he did have drinks at their house with them
and they watched an episode. And I was like, do you want me to really buy and believe that Chris is watching this show?
No, it's Kendall, too.
Yeah, and that I could believe because Kendall's the most boring person I've ever seen in my life.
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But Chris, I don't believe for one second that she's watching the Bachelor.
She saw ABC sign the check and she said, I love any product that you want to push my way.
You can feed it into this show and it will now become the storyline.
I love you. I mean, I kind of believe that her and Kendall watch it.
I think they're both like Kendall, she's kind of nerdy, though.
See you bought into it because they'll even be like, oh my god, you can watch it next day on Hulu.
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And I'm like, this is the way of TV now. It's like, have a Pepsi in the ad and it's like Pepsi bought that spot, though.
You think we're just looking at that brand just for fun?
I mean, yes, I will agree with that, but I still, I don't know. I don't know.
I mean, what I wish though was that I wish they would pay me to do it.
Because guess what? I love Pepsi. I was bored in that birthplace.
I hate Pepsi. I would not do it.
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You know what? And that is not-
I'm a girl. We're going to delete that from the podcast.
But I, if Coke wants to pay for me to look, everybody in middle school, all my teachers thought I was on Coke,
because I had dilated eyes. They're just blue. I just said blue eyes.
I had it. Oh, you meant the drink.
Oh, that's awkward. So today we're going to play a game. It's called Friend or Fiend.
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And it's just random celebrities that are actors.
Yes.
And I want to know if you would befriend them, you think you'd be besties with them, or you know,
what do you really think about it?
Because you always have hot takes and I do love that.
Okay, let's do it.
Oh, yeah. So to get into this, I asked Steph what some of her favorite programs were.
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I guess half of them tell-
I'm so proud of you actually. So Adam had sent me like a text before I came on the show.
And it was just like, hey, what are some of your favorite sitcoms and dramas and comedies?
Literally 10 minutes before you were driving here.
Literally.
So last minute.
Great producer. Last minute.
Last minute. Yeah, fired.
Never will be Chris.
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So I was like, so I sent him some of my favorites and he's probably going to talk about them so I won't say them now.
But-
No, say them. I want them to know.
Okay, so three, my three tops that come, Seinfeld is for sure number one.
Same.
Um, so good.
And I knew that was one of yours.
And I love that you knew that.
I thought it was that incurred your enthusiasm and get more girls for some reason.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah.
Not top three, but I thought those were in the role of Dax.
Yeah, not far off, but Seinfeld number one.
I would say friends for sure.
And then what was my other one?
Oh God, what was your other one?
You just text me and I already for a great producer, huh?
Great producer.
Wait a minute.
Oh, shit's Creek.
Yeah, and that's-
Oh my god.
That one I didn't guess that one, but it didn't surprise me, of course.
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Oh, new girl too, actually.
Yeah, I knew that you liked new girl.
New girl.
But you were friends with everyone on new girl.
I was.
And it's Creek.
So that's we're not going to talk about those cast numbers.
Okay.
But um, tell them that your favorite movies though.
Because this is wild.
Oh, do you think it's wild?
In a good way.
I love it.
The two movies are wild?
Yeah, they are.
Your favorite movies wouldn't take hot to me.
Favorite?
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Wait, I'm setting it up.
Everyone's going to be like, yeah, okay, mine too.
But no, listen to this.
So one of my favorite movies is for sure the Godfather.
Yeah, and I guess that one.
I really had that on lock.
I was like, she loves Italian anything.
Oh, Italian mob.
Yeah.
Fuck, I've like always wanted to be Italian.
I wanted to be- if I was a guy, I was like,
I wanted to be an Italian monster.
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You know what?
In the past life, I bet actually this is going on our sitcom too.
Past life, past life.
I feel like that is our dynamic though.
You would be the one out killing.
And I'd be like, honey, I may bow to Nye Say.
You know, and you'd like-
There's 100% sure of it.
You would definitely be cheating on me.
I'd be crying in the corner of my head
and cheating on you with all of your brothers.
Oh my fucking God.
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I love it.
You just wrote the script right now.
Yeah.
Of what our sitcom would be.
And what would we call that?
Oh my Godfather.
I can't with you.
I cannot with you.
No one laughed harder at their jokes than I do.
And that's why we love you.
Yeah.
So-
She's got paid to say that.
I had a hand in her a five in a Pepsi.
Welcome.
I fucking hate my nose.
You do, but drink it.
I'm sorry.
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God dammit.
I don't want to.
Oh wow.
And the second favorite-
The second favorite.
I would say for me like, this is a perfect movie.
To me-
It's incredible, but I was shocked when you said it.
Really?
I mean, I want to get into the psychosis of it in a second.
This is a diversion from the game.
I don't care.
Oh, you're like digging in.
Oh, we're digging in.
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Okay.
So my second fit-
Well, really, it's up there with the Godfather.
Is Harold and Maud.
Anyone that doesn't know the premise of this movie,
it's a very-
It's almost like an underage man with a very elderly woman.
And they're in a romantic relationship.
Okay.
Can you like make it sound a little bit better?
Yes, that's the first one.
No, that they kill people in it too.
It gets worse than that.
No, no, no, no, no.
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So I'll tell you why-
You tell me the new script.
You write it.
Let me fucking break it down for you.
You're going to make a many series.
I just know it.
So I'll try to keep this short.
So good luck.
It was a movie that was made in the 70s.
Hal Ashby is the director.
Oh, we're getting all the notes.
Yeah, he's done a bunch of soft-root cordon.
This is one of the stars.
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Bud court is the other.
And it's a-
Blood court?
Bud court.
Okay.
That isn't what we heard.
I'm just saying.
You said "but court."
That too.
Okay, sure.
Rewinding it left right center.
Go on.
This movie, it's a dark comedy.
Yes.
And it's about this kid, Bud court, who grew up.
He's like his mom's like a socialite.
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Like very, very wealthy family.
He's an only child.
His dad is God knows where-
Like the OG salt burn in a way.
Yes.
Very similar to that.
And the mom's just like-
She doesn't care about him.
Like she just cares about her status in society.
It's all about her.
What he does to try to get her attention
is to fake his own deaths.
So he does these like-
Where he like puts, well, fake blood on him.
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Like and he's like laying in a bathtub
when she like walks in and it's like-
It's so much pop.
It's so much pop.
But and she doesn't even know this.
And so anyway, he hates life.
The whole moral of this is he fucking hates life
and he doesn't want to live.
Okay.
And so what he does for fun is he goes to funerals.
And at one of the funerals,
he meets this woman played by Ruth Gordon, mod.
And she is in her 80s and she's this carefree lover of life,
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holocaust survivor.
And she goes to funerals to pay respects for their lives.
She doesn't know them and she just shows up
and she's just full of life in every way.
I gotta rewatch.
'Cause my interpretation of this was so separate.
Yeah, it is so separate.
'Cause you have no idea
'cause I've watched this so many fucking times.
Yeah, I've only seen it once and I was like,
I'm obsessed with this.
This does need to be a miniseries genuinely
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but also what have I witnessed.
I'm crying.
I mean-
It's not, there's no crime that happens.
No, no, no.
Anyways, you know-
Doesn't murder anyone?
No, what?
Oh Jesus Christ.
No.
I really thought they did.
There's no murder on the dance floor.
I'm wrong, okay I'm wrong.
When I'm wrong, sue me.
Soak it up, it doesn't happen often.
Okay, there we go.
Anyway, well that'll be the next episode.
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Watch that.
They're talking about this now.
So they end up starting to hang out
and they still go to funerals and whatever.
And during this process,
she is teaching them how to live, how to love life.
And they fall in love in the purist form.
It is not this gross.
And you see this arc of this boy
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that's like been given a second chance at life.
And all because of her, like I get so tearied.
But that's what it is.
It's like this story of hope
and what love really means
and how you can find love in the most obscure
and you know, weird places that you've never thought of.
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And I mean, it's tragic at the end that there is a death
but they don't kill anybody.
- Can I not put so wrong?
- From every part of it,
from the acting to the writing to the directing,
to the cinematography to the soundtrack,
which is all done by Kat Stevens
before he became Moussaf Islam.
It is an absolute perfect movie in every way.
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- And clearly you would win a trivia game at this
'cause you gave us all the deep cuts.
You gave us the editor, you gave us the fashion designer.
You gave us the filming locations.
- So go see it.
But those are my two favorite things.
- Well, they can't go see it.
It's not in cinemas, but go rent it.
- Okay, rent it at Blockbuster, yes.
- Yeah, go rent it at Blockbuster
'cause I think you'd only want to have a copy of it.
- But, I do too.
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That's really depressing.
- That was like our,
well you're younger than me.
But was that like your Friday night?
- Oh yeah, we would.
- I would go with my parents
and we would pick out a movie
and almost nine times out of 10,
I would pick now and then
and finally we bought the movie.
I loved that movie.
- Oh my God, you're so...
- Give me a flash forward and backwards
and talk about growing boobs.
I'm there.
I'm sold.
- You know, I am a little,
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but yeah, I don't know if that was queer culture,
gay culture or none of the above.
I don't know how to a lot of girl cousins
and I was like, what do you mean you're developing?
Me too.
- Let me see.
- Come on, but not in a sexual way,
even though I'm in bread.
- I love you.
- Oh gosh, now I want to watch Harold and Maude.
- You need to.
- I don't know.
I was gonna raz you over the coals for it
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and you just really sold me on it.
- I know.
- And that's why she does sales.
She's the top salesperson
in all of North America.
- Such a fucking liar.
- No, she's Christian or?
(laughing)
- I wish.
- Play along.
Okay, so let's do it first.
This is not any of the things that you picked
'cause you know I gotta give you a plot twist.
Or would you be friends with anyone
from the cast of The Avengers?
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Scarlett Johansson, first of all.
- Oh, okay.
- You think you'd be friends with her?
We just watched a video today of that woman
passing behind her that--
- Like it, it's that phrase.
- Disappeared.
And as her mother, apparently,
I'm like, did she absorb her mother?
Is that they'd go to her boobs?
What is that?
- No, I would be friends.
I feel like she's stunningly gorgeous,
but I feel like she's fun and she is--
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- And she's a good show.
- She's a humor.
- Yeah.
- She doesn't take herself too seriously.
- I think we would be friends with anyone technically.
I would hope.
- Not really.
- I would hope we would try to--
- We would try to try to try to--
- I mean, we don't really know these people.
- We don't.
- Okay, Chris Evans, I don't know if I could be friends
with him.
He's too attractive.
- Chris Evans.
You know what's funny?
I feel like he's probably really boring.
- That's what I was, you know what?
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He probably is.
Anyway, next, that's a skip.
Chris, him's worth though I think would be friends.
- Yummy.
- I want to be friends because I honestly,
I think that the wife is the top,
and I really want to see the dynamics
between the two play out.
- And I actually think he's really got a great
fun sense of humor.
- He seems funny.
- Yeah, he's funny.
- And Australians are like a little bit mad.
Like not angry, I mean, well, they probably are too,
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but like, you know, like a little off,
just a little off, and I can relate to that.
I can get behind that ship.
- Oh, damn.
- Okay, what about Robert Downey Jr.?
- Oh my god, a thousand percent yes.
That's our go to now.
- Oh, obsessed.
- Last one from the Avengers cast,
and I'm leaving off key players,
but I don't care, it's my podcast.
Mark Ruffalo.
- Love him.
I actually would.
- Out of that core group right there,
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who would be the number one that you would choose?
- Robert Downey Jr.
- And Mark Ruffalo, because he looks a little depressed,
and I know I could butter him up.
- I was just gonna say, are you,
is it because you want to fucking fix him?
- Yeah, you like him.
- Yep, there we go.
- I'm like, I'm gonna energize their bunny.
Hi, I'm gonna figure it out.
I'm gonna get to the core of the problem.
- I just know so many issues you have.
- Oh, I can fix him.
- I can fix him.
- No, you can.
- No, you can't.
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- You can't.
- You can't sell to any dude.
- You can't even fix yourself, so get it together.
Okay, take a clone up and.
What about the cast of Star Wars?
I don't know if you watched that ever.
- Are you picking the fucking movies that I don't know.
- I set it up because I gotta give you a plot twist.
- Oh god.
- And did you ever watch Star Wars growing up?
- I mean, four, yes, four, five and six, yes.
- Well, I call those one, two and three,
but I know that's the chronological orders,
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one, two and three, but they're chapter four, five and six.
- Correct.
- Sue me, I think that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
- I tell you that's a Georgia Lucas in his face.
- I will.
I can't wait to.
I actually can't wait to.
Mark Camel, love him.
- Love him.
I think he'd be boring as hell, but I do.
- I don't, I think he's actually really sardonic
and interesting and I don't even know what sardonic means,
but I think it fits him to a T.
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I'm gonna commit Carrie Fisher, you know you would.
- She's a crazy bitch.
- Well, I think respectfully, I think that I would want
to be besties with her, but I would have to have already been
sober by the time we met.
I think it would've been a problem.
- She's, she's nightmare.
- 'Cause I'd be like, I gotta keep up with the vibe
and I can't keep up with the vibe.
Are you kidding me?
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Let's talk about Shonda Land.
Remember those shows that she did?
- Oh yeah.
- I don't wanna talk about Bridgerton.
- He's got don't.
- Oh, really?
- Yeah, no.
- You don't like it?
- This is the thing.
- Yeah, spill it.
- I do.
- Yeah, you don't.
You know what I mean?
- I don't know.
- It's not Harold and Maude.
- Thank you.
- I do like it.
- Okay.
- But I don't love it.
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- Okay.
- Is it 'cause it's a period piece of what?
- No, I love period pieces.
It's like my favorite.
- Yeah, that's why I don't get it.
Why don't I like it?
- And I, I feel like it's so put on.
There's nothing grounded for me in that.
- I feel like it's a little too campy and juicy.
- Yeah.
- Is that why?
- But I watch it.
- I do too.
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- And I'm like, oh, the characters are--
- First season I was sold.
- Yep.
- Second season he's hot, but I wasn't interested.
- Right.
- Third season I haven't even finished.
- Yeah, like that's the thing is,
like I feel like the characters are good,
but I am not invested.
- I think it's too anthology based.
Like I want it.
I know the books went that way,
but I want, like if you're doing a show,
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I want to be invested in the same characters the whole time.
And I want to know where they end up.
Like I, if you're gonna close the chapters, start over.
- Yeah.
- To me.
Like I love the Queen Charlotte character
when we get like two seconds over.
So here's some actors, do you remember,
do you remember like Scandal?
- Yeah.
- And how to get away with Murder.
- Yeah.
- And Grace Nathamemur, when those are all three on TV
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at the same time.
- But I did have a run-in with Carrie Washington.
- Oh shoot.
What?
- I gotta say, for all our listeners out there.
- Oh, this is Givet.
- She is phenomenal.
Phenomenal.
- A girl's girl.
- A girl's girl.
So I'll tell you what went my interaction with her.
- Oh, I can't wait.
- Um, and I don't,
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I think turb, but I wanna like,
I hope I see her again,
'cause I wanna properly think her so that's the deal.
Years ago, in my 20s,
I'm not in my 20s anymore, I'm in my 40s, it's fine.
But.
- I wasn't gonna tell.
- I don't know, it's okay.
I was at Whole Foods,
and you know the like hot bar, like we're,
okay, all that, that fucking food is so good.
- It is good.
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This is not a plug for Whole Foods,
but if you do wanna sponsor us, we have slots available.
And we clearly have a wonderful story
with a clear connective line for Carrie Washington
to make a cameo.
Just saying, her budget'll be more expensive than ours.
For now, get us while we're hot.
- So I was like looking to see what I wanted.
I was kinda just taking my time,
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like slowly going through it.
And this guy, like was talking to me,
and he was just like creepy vibes.
Just like really creepy vibes.
You know, for the most part, like,
I know I can be a bitch, but I'll be nice.
Like I'm not gonna be rude to be rude.
So I just kinda was like, oh, huh.
- Also, you don't know what he's gonna do.
- Made a little small talk, right?
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- Yeah.
- So, but then it was like, I just kinda was like not,
not, I was like, please get away, but I didn't say it.
But he just kept coming back, right?
Very stalk-ish.
And then I look up and I see,
and I notice it's Carrie Washington.
- That Whole Foods.
- That Whole Foods.
- This is just LA story I can't ask.
- By yourself.
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- But you weren't even in LA, right?
You were in-- - No, it's LA.
- You weren't either home.
- I'm just fucking, I don't know.
- I'm just fucking, I don't know.
My friend called it Desmoneys, 'cause she didn't know how to--
- Are you kidding me?
- Sort of got in my life.
- My friend Lauren.
- My friend Lauren, I'm gonna say her last name.
Not my bestie Lauren, this other Lauren,
oh, Jesus, sorry, this other Lauren,
and she like legit, we were talking about like a state
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and she said Desmoneys.
- Desmoneys. - Desmoneys.
- And I look at her and I thought,
I started laughing 'cause I thought she knew she was kidding.
- Oh, and then you feel bad, 'cause you're like,
oh, shoot.
- And then I, she's like,
what, and then I'm like, it's Desmone, Iowa.
I had to be not-- - Don't you mind being blonde
and telling people what's correct?
- Yes, I was like, how do you not know this?
And she was like, I literally had no idea.
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I'm like, you're an idiot, don't ever say that again,
'cause we're never laughing.
- Those can't, that's like guacamole.
- So lame.
- It's like, please stop.
- It's like worse than that, but yes.
So anyway, Carrie, so we're in LA,
out of Whole Foods, Carrie sees this guy talking to me.
And I, 'cause I look up and I see her,
and she's like kinda just like looking over.
And she seems to be like looking at my situation.
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Legit walks over, grabs me by the arm,
and she was like, girl, come here, I need your help
with what I want for lunch.
Like, I need you, I'll be picking it out.
And pulls me away from this guy.
And she's like, oh my God, he would not leave you alone.
And I was like, no, not at all, thank you so much.
She was like, no problem, girl.
Like, guys like that, just are so fucking creepy.
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And I thanked her profusely, and we chatted
for a couple of minutes,
but I could not, what a fucking amazing person.
- She's amazing.
- I really meant that, I really was touched by that.
The fact that she didn't know who I was,
but she was like, oh no, how long?
- She had your back in that moment,
and you're a total stranger to her.
- Total fucking stranger.
- Is this how you tell me that we're meeting her
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right after this, 'cause I've been secretly wanting to.
And not on scandalous way.
- I love that.
- I would love to.
I gotta say, honestly, one of my goals
is to meet her again.
And like, say, like really say, like thank you.
Like I--
- I feel like we should make this like a TikTok
and see if it'll go viral enough,
but she'll see you. - We should do that.
- She'll see you and talk about it.
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Oh, you're serious.
- Oh, I'm serious.
- Well, we really wanna be friends with her.
I feel like we gotta wait until we're at Georgia Lucas' party
and I can tell him to his face off.
And then you can side-bar with her.
I'll get kicked out, but you'll be your friend forever with her.
- Or we could do a TikTok where it's like,
every TikTok we like talk about,
like our interactions with celebs.
- Oh yeah.
- Yeah, so many projects. - We're not, right?
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But we're not even doing anything mean,
so we can't, we're like being nice about it,
like putting our actions at the top.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I've had none.
So, well, Titus, no, I will say Titus Burris.
Remember, he was on "Kemi Schmidt"
and he was on a couple of other shows
and he's a legend, he's amazing.
He was Sebastian and Little Mermaid
when it came out on Broadway.
- Oh, he didn't know that.
- He's amazing.
But I was kinda sad that he wasn't in the Disney movie.
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But he, how many times was gonna say, "Butt in a row"?
- Yeah, please do that.
- I was catered, waitering at something
and he was like trying to ask where the bathroom was
and he was just a lovely human.
But that's not a particularly exciting story.
It's about the bathroom.
- Yeah, can you work on that story?
- Yeah, I'll do some toilet humor.
I've got a plumber coming on later this season.
So that's a plug.
Literally.
There's the butt quark.
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(laughs)
- Where are we?
- I cannot with you.
- So here's some hosts.
Where is I like to call them the Jimmy's?
This is me getting us back on the train of the friend or few.
- Oh, is it?
- Okay, let's go.
- Yeah, we haven't been saying Fiend or not,
but I love that.
- Okay, I like the title.
So of the Jimmy's, who do you think would be the one
that you like the most?
- Kimmel, I think he's funny.
- Me too.
I think Kimmel's more normal.
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- And I think he's funny.
- And I think Farlin, I couldn't trust the laugh.
I would be like, "Are you think, do you think I'm funny
or are you putting that on because of you have anxiety?"
Like, yeah, I also think he's a terrible interviewer.
- He's so bad at it.
- Yeah, but he's my pitch to get his job.
No, I'm just kidding.
- But the one before it, what was the big,
oh my god, the bigger Johnny Carson?
- Yeah, Johnny Carson, I almost said him,
(21:04):
but I was like-- - I love him too.
- Yeah. - You're up watching him.
- I know, but he's the one that really blacklisted Joan,
and I can't forgive him.
But he was such a good, whole interviewer.
- He's so good.
- He was incredible.
Okay, now let's talk about the shows
that you actually like I tortured you enough.
This will be Rapid Fire.
Are you ready for this? - Okay, go.
- Okay, I'm gonna do women from the house
vibes very quickly, ready?
(21:25):
- Okay, go.
- Meredith Mark.
- Oh, a friend.
- Amazing.
Karen Huger from Potomac.
- Oh.
- Kathy Hilton.
- Oh, friend.
Do you know that I think I've told you this?
- You have, but I want them to hear it.
- Okay.
She has liked four of my reels on Instagram
over the last three years.
(21:46):
- Yeah, like not in succession,
like over a period of time,
like you're coming up on her feed.
- Like what is, I'm so, I need to be friends with her.
She's such a hot mess in the best way.
- Yeah, like her.
- I mean, and that'll get you one step closer to Chris.
- I know.
- 'Cause they're besties.
- Oh, they are.
And Kathy was just on the Kardashians this, today.
(22:07):
- Yeah, she was.
- Yeah, really well done.
- Yeah, but she likes some of your stuff.
Does she ever comment?
- I gotta look.
'Cause I thought she did.
- Yeah, 'cause I thought like she did.
I thought she had commented or something.
- I feel like she's like so funny girl or like heart,
heart, heart.
- Yeah, it was like maybe something.
I don't know, maybe I think that might--
- I think it's her.
I don't think it's like her marketing team.
I really don't.
- Oh, it's her.
- Yeah, it's definitely her.
- Yeah, I think it's her.
- She had a little prize of second, she's just like on there late at night.
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- Where can I go with that?
- Why prize of second,
'cause I don't even have a particularly exciting drug.
Okay, the cast of friends,
there's gonna be not a single person from this
that you're not gonna be friends with.
- The one I would probably be closest to
is Jennifer Anderson.
- Me too, that's my number one.
- That's my number one.
- But I think, I mean, that's why she's so endearing
to all of America.
I like her and I really like Lisa Kudrow,
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but I don't know if she would find me annoying.
- You guys would be fun together.
- I hope so.
- You guys could create some fun songs together.
- Oh gosh, I smelly cut, smelly cut.
- That was good.
- Yeah, oh, I practiced.
- Okay.
- That was, I warmed up before you came here, you know.
Oh, Matthew Perry, now I'm sad.
I can't read through this.
- Okay.
- You know what, Paul Rudd was on the show for a while
(23:09):
and I forgot about that.
I mean, they had a lot of guests on the show over the years,
but like Paul Rudd was there for a minute.
- Paul Rudd is so hot.
- I can't even handle it.
- I like him.
- And Man though, really?
- Is he, he's married, yeah?
- He's so hot.
- He's so hot.
I just, yeah.
Him and Clueless, I just--
- I was gonna say, that's the one that I fell in love with
(23:30):
and I'm not supposed to.
- I think America did.
- And it's his, isn't it a step sister?
- Yeah, which was like so like porny.
- Yeah, I was gonna say it's like so poor and hub leaning,
but like, but like, I'm not mad at it.
- Right, 'cause he's so hot.
So like, yeah, if he was my step brother,
we'd be in love, what do you mean?
- Well hold on, because his mom married her dad,
(23:51):
so they are not related in any way.
- I mean, I know they're not, but it's like, it's questionable.
- Well it's just weird because it was like--
- The dynamics of living in the same house.
- Yeah.
- Now you're my brother, I mean, come on.
- I mean, it's kind of hot, but it's kind of weird.
- It's kind of game of thrones hot.
- Oh.
- Or as we like to say, backwards North Carolina hot.
Seinfeld, I think you would wanna be friends with everyone,
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but realistically I'm gonna go through the names.
Jerry Seinfeld, would you be friends
or would you find him annoying?
- I actually would find him really annoying.
- I know.
Larry David, we would be besties.
- Besties.
- Besties.
- 100%.
But I would have to tip for him
'cause I heard he's not a good tipper.
- Okay.
- We can't have that.
- No.
- He's not tarnishing my name around this city
'cause that can't be happening.
Everyone must know I'm a great tipper.
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Okay, what about Jason Alexander?
- Love him.
- He kind of has the same cadence in his voice sometimes as I do.
- Yeah.
- Do you hear it or did I just make that up?
- No, I could hear that now that you say it.
- Yeah, it's a little sing-songy, a little bit,
and it's a little too loud.
- But I will say, and I love, why I love him
is his self-deprecating humor.
- Me too.
- That is what is so endearing about him.
He knows he's like a schmuck, right?
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He knows.
- He's like--
- He's got a brand and he really plays it well.
- And he really does it well.
- Pretty woman, him and that.
- Oh yeah.
- He's such a schmuck.
Still love him.
- Still love him.
- Him and the brandy Cinderella that we had
that we were graced with with the Houston.
Oh my God, he's so good in that.
He's like in the,
(imitates singing)
He's like, got the scroll.
- I remember that movie.
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- Oh, that was a class.
- I can't with you.
- So do you know who's actually my favorite
on Seinfeld other than Elaine?
She's my favorite character,
probably on a sitcom ever.
Like I just love her.
Julia Louie, I would ride her die for her.
Would you be friends with her?
- Hell yeah.
- Heck yeah.
Okay, so, but the parents on the show?
- Oh.
- Those are my number one.
- George and Georgian, what's the--
(25:39):
- A style and frame.
- There we go.
They probably would be the most annoying friends.
- I don't care.
- I would not, I can't even have fun.
- It's not even like, I don't even care if they annoy
people around.
I'm not apologizing for them.
They need to live unapologetically, I love them.
- I speaking of Seinfeld.
- Yes.
- I have another story.
- Oh, do it.
- I was hooking up with this dude in my 20s.
(25:59):
- Oh, of course, here it goes.
- Funny story about that, but we'll--
- Yes, for you later.
- Say that for later.
And we were hanging out for quite some time.
And one night he was like, "Hey, I want you to come out
with some of my friends that are having a dinner at."
Oh my God, what's the place in WeHo
that it's like a fancy, oh my God,
(26:22):
it's like right down the street from the abbey.
- Not Palm.
- No, Chicallo, no.
- You lost me at fancy, I never been to a fancy restaurant
on my whole life.
- I can't think of it, but it's actually
really good restaurant, WeHo.
- Well, we'll never know.
- I shut the fuck up.
- Drink your Pepsi.
- Not Pepsi!
- You know I'm gonna cut it there on the episode.
(26:43):
- I know you are.
- Yeah, let's take a little break and talk to my mother.
And I'm so sorry, I'm sure she's gonna rake me
over the coals for talking so inappropriately.
Sorry, mom, we can't keep you PG at all times.
- Hi everyone, this is Linda LaFay
and I've always got something to say.
- Today's topic is about being dignified.
And you might ask, "How can I do this?"
(27:04):
Well, of course your actions and your words help with this.
And, you know, I'm from the South,
so we always use slang words and people don't understand us.
And maybe we have a little accent.
But what I wanna talk today about is using curse words.
Yeah.
And, you know, maybe you're emotional or you get pumped up.
And yes, those words can fly.
(27:26):
My target though is I'm hoping
to think a little bit about your messaging.
What are you conveying through your word choices?
And even when you're inflecting, your voice inflections.
I hope you're gonna consider speaking your truth,
but your use of these four little words
is just not necessary or are they?
I find it distracting when I hear those
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and television shows and in movies because sometimes
it just serves no purpose.
And before we depart ways,
I'm just gonna also say my golden rule is don't do the GD.
And also overusing the F-bomb.
I admit, now I've relaxed lately over hearing that one,
but it's use, it should be extra limited
because your emphasis, you know,
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if you're using something over and over again,
it means less.
So save it for, I guess, that special appropriate occasion,
if so.
If you see yourself being guilty of this potty mouth
I'm trying to talk about,
maybe you need to take a little walkie walk
into the bathroom and put some soft soap on your tongue,
think about cleaning up what comes out of your mouth
because yeah, it's not good.
(28:31):
Thanks, Ma. Sorry Ma.
Now here's Dad.
Hey Adam, Sassy says.
(crickets chirping)
Oh, Dad brought a friend with him today.
Yeah, my dad's a bigfoot fanatic.
So if any of you have been looking for bigfoot out there,
look no further, you won't be visually seeing him,
but you'll be hearing him from time to time on the podcast.
(28:53):
Now we're gonna launch back in.
I rudely cut off Stephanie there before the break.
And she has a very interesting topic.
She's talking about, of course, she's gonna name drop.
She's got a hot, famous friend that she went on his date with
and it's a really funny tidbit.
So here's a little,
here's a little something for you an outtake, if you will.
Was he gay? Why is he taking you to WeHo?
He's just an ally.
He's an ally.
Okay, that I love.
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There's a great,
there's a great,
there's a great fucking restaurant in WeHo.
Okay.
Chaconis, that's the name of it.
You've never taken me?
It is so good.
I would love to go to Chikichi.
Okay.
Okay.
I walk in, mother fucker.
His friend is...
Mr. Lippman?
(29:34):
No.
He was so fine.
So fine.
And he's good friends with this guy I was hooking up with.
And I got to hug him and hang out with him.
And he is just as fabulous.
Was his hair actually gray in real life and so quaff?
So...
That wasn't a piece?
No, it was for real.
(29:55):
That's his hair?
Oh, I'm very attracted to him.
He was so good looking and his nicest can be.
And we hung out all night and had dinner and he told stories about
sign felt like how...and he really had a great experience.
So yeah, so I hung out with Peter Men and it was like, "Go on, go on, go on with your
dad."
Oh, that was it.
I already cut it.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Okay.
(30:15):
Okay.
Enough of that.
Now let's address what Stephanie's here for because she was brought back for a reason.
People really wanted to know, you know, what is going on with her friendship.
So let's dive right in.
Wait, we're not done.
I just can't believe it.
I cannot with you.
She literally...no.
She said that like she was joking but she literally got up to leave.
Never took her shoes off in my house.
I'm like, "Okay, thanks so much stuff.
(30:36):
I'm so glad that you were here."
Such a hard worker.
You really are.
You got so many projects just like Chris.
So here's the thing.
Last time you were here, we talked about some of the friends.
Catch me up on what's the update with your friends.
Oh, I talked to my friend and I can friend and her about it.
Name...remaining if I can talk.
Jesus Christ.
No, it's okay.
Name redacted.
(30:57):
It's fine.
Yeah, there we go.
We're talking about the friend that you were having difficulty with the...
It was the not making time for them and kind of just checking a box kind of thing.
I don't know if our listeners have experienced this.
They definitely have.
I'll speak for them.
That's the kind of dynamic I bring to this podcast.
Of just feeling like when you have a really...and you really do love your friend, right?
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Yes.
She wouldn't care.
But feeling like there isn't space in their life for you.
And this is the thing.
It's one thing to...if you have somebody who's super high maintenance and is like,
I need to be put before all others.
Like, that's not me.
And that's toxic.
No one's doing that.
No one's doing that.
Like, I'm a grown-ass adult, okay?
You got kids.
I've got kids.
I've got kids.
I've got jobs out the wazoo commercials.
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I've got friends.
I've got kids.
She used to take off in my house.
Can you tell that he's mad that I'm a...
No, I just wanted to...it's a good comedic bit, you know.
I know.
But take them off.
You're such a bitch.
Yeah, but when you have a friendship that fills a little one-sided like that,
it's like, what am I supposed to do?
At what point does the cookie crumble?
So, anyway, so I confronted her and it was exactly how I thought I was going to be.
(32:05):
The cookie crumbled.
It was an hour conversation where she was super defensive.
Ugh.
And it was...
But I'm a good friend and I do this and I do this.
I said, I never said you were a bad friend.
I said, I love you and I want...
I literally live seven minutes from you.
I want face time with you.
I don't want.
I have friends all over the place, all over the country.
(32:29):
And those are people that I don't get to see.
So I do have phone calls with them.
That's our friendship right now until I can go see them or whatever.
You and I have...are seven minutes from each other.
Like, you have keys to my apartment.
You are...you know that you can walk into my apartment whenever you want.
You can use the pool like, my house is your house kind of thing.
(32:50):
That's how I...
May costas, stucasa?
Yes.
I do the duo, Lingo.
Lord help me, continue.
You're doing good, sweetie.
You're doing great, sweetie.
See, I knew you were...see?
You know, it was all about her.
It was all about what she's done.
It's this...I'm like...it's not it.
Now, when she was starting to raise her voice, did you match her vibe?
Or were you like, I'm gonna be the responsible adult and not go off the rails with her.
I'm gonna kind of hold her down.
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No, I raised my voice first.
Okay, that makes more sense.
That adds up the math.
I have the temper of my father.
The inside out came out.
You know those emotions?
Yes.
Because you felt wrong, didn't you?
Well, I was listening.
I mean, yes.
I do have a temper that I'm working on.
It's funny.
My kids are the only people that I am patient with and do not...
You're pretty patient with me.
Oh, am I?
(33:33):
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, then your second after my kids.
No, I don't mean in an order I'm saying, but as your friend, I don't witness that.
Oh, well, that's good.
I'm like my father though with a temper.
Like, I go from like zero to fuck you in like two seconds literally.
Try me out.
I'll cool you off real quick.
But that's why I love you.
This is why we work.
So anyway, I started, I was raising my voice and then she was like, do not raise your voice.
(33:55):
Like, don't yell at me.
So then I had to bring it down because I was like, okay, that's not fair.
So, okay, I brought it down.
It was again, it was just this like missed opportunity to really connect.
By the end of it, I was like, I don't want to talk about this thing.
Like, this is, you're not going to see what I'm saying.
All I needed for you was to listen and understand how I'm feeling.
I just needed to be acknowledged and we could have moved on from it.
(34:17):
And you've now made it a bigger deal.
And I always say, listen, let's try on both parts.
And if you don't want to, okay, that's upsetting to give me my keys back.
But, right?
Just like, then I put you in a box and I know where you're at.
Like, I know how our friendship is.
Okay, so then, but we, I was just like, listen, let's just stop.
Like, let's try to like take some time, whatever.
(34:39):
And she was like, well, I do have some time.
Like, I can see you for lunch on Tuesday.
And she, so she made the app, I said, final meeting.
That's good.
So she put the first step in after the conversation that you had.
Yeah.
That you had that didn't kind of go well.
Yeah.
And so I was like, I was annoyed at the conversation, but I was like,
I'm not going to be this like stupid immature bitch.
Like, I can go.
And so we went on Tuesday.
We were like, you know, nice to these.
(35:01):
Oh, you look great.
You look great.
Good to see you.
And then it was like, listen, I want to like clear the air here and then talk about this.
And then just move forward.
And I started bringing up and she started to get offensive again.
And I'm like, my gosh.
Gosh.
I've got enough time past us that this is going to be okay.
Yeah.
And it wasn't.
And it wasn't.
And I'm just like, okay, like, I don't know really like how to go from here.
(35:25):
So I kept trying to say it.
And it was still again.
And I said, listen, okay, let's just like stop getting angry.
Yeah.
I'm so busy.
I was like, let's just stop.
Let's just do this.
You're going to try.
I'm going to try.
We're going to do our best.
Let's leave it at that.
We know how each other feels.
That's all moving forward.
She was like, okay.
And then I was like, you came in with that real housewives dialogue.
(35:48):
Oh, I was.
You were like, we're moving forward.
It's in the past.
We're done.
As much as I was.
I'm actually still pissed as hell.
And you didn't address it at all.
But you know what?
I'm going to ignore that.
And I'm going to ignore my feelings that we're just going to move on.
But secretly I hate you.
Totally.
So I just sucked it up.
And I mean, I love her to that.
Then she means the world to me.
It was just hard.
(36:09):
And I'm sure our listeners and you we've all experienced like having friends
that you love so much in their family.
And then they're just like, when you are feeling away and you want to express that.
And I'm not going to be vulnerable.
That's not my jam.
Like I'm not good like that.
Like I will love you hard and do anything for you.
But I'm not this like emotional like.
I disagree with that.
(36:30):
I think sometimes that you wait until you're angry to express how you feel.
Yes.
Yes.
Because I don't like to be emotional.
Or I mean, I don't like to be vulnerable.
Maybe that's part of it.
Maybe that's part of it.
But to me, it's like you try to gloss over it a little bit.
And then you're like, no, that's actually been bothering me.
And now I have to address it.
Yeah, because I kind of just it's not that I want to forget about it.
(36:51):
It's like, I don't I'm not a nagger.
Like, and it's not begging to be honest about how you feel.
No, but you know, I kind of just, okay, I give it some space to if they recognize
if they don't, then you know, I'll say something.
But I'm very good at getting angry and I'm very good at being like, fuck you.
And like, I get like, I'm so interesting.
You're taking up your self is so interesting.
(37:13):
So good at it.
It's just like with with dudes that I date, like I, you know, most dudes, I'm like, I'll just fuck you and leave.
Like, I don't care.
Don't matter to me.
Like, I don't need to know we're good.
You are such a bro.
I I am so girly, but I am that way mentality wise.
So you're a bro.
Yeah, I just.
Yeah, I don't care.
You're a bro and drag.
(37:34):
I don't want to cuddle with you.
I don't think you.
I don't want to cuddle with you.
Don't fucking tell me like sweet things.
Yeah, you are not a cuddler.
No.
No.
Unless I really love you.
You're very affectionate with me.
I'm a touchy person.
You are.
Which I love.
Right.
But I'm not like a cuddler.
If I don't like you.
No.
No.
(37:55):
Was that how you are?
Are you a cuddler?
I like to cuddle a lot.
I'm pretty affectionate.
Oh, that's true.
But I'm a cancer.
In romance, I mean more so than even friendship.
Yeah.
Like, friendships I'm very touchy.
you feel they always will be I want people to know that they're being held up in my space and,
you know, that they're safe and stuff. - Yeah. - And I need that shit reciprocated, but
not all the time, but in a relationship. Oh, yeah. I want to hold, be held. - It's funny.
(38:19):
- I want to hold my man down. - Ah. - What man? George Clooney, kidding. There we go. He's so nice.
I met him too. - Oh, we shouldn't have named him earlier. - We should have. I love him. He's so sweet.
- No, no, let me rephrase this. Like, I-- - It's not going poorly. I just want you to feel positive
about how you are. - No, no, no. I don't give a shit. - I know you don't. I'm not having you leave my house
(38:40):
without positive affirmations. - Oh my god. Jesus Christ. Okay, Gandhi. - No one in their right mind would,
that's how you know we're a little bit off. No one would ever compare me to Gandhi. Okay? Okay?
- No, you're welcome. Like, physical touch is my first level English. - Yes. - So I'm touchy in like,
I like flirty touchy, right? If I like you, yes. Like, because I'm a very sexual person. Like,
(39:09):
cuddle me-- - Oh, we know. I think the listeners know. - We know. - Yeah, you were attracted to
Harold Amod. I cannot-- - I cannot. - But like, I then cuddle me. But like, if I don't fucking--
if I'm just having sex with you, please God in heaven do not touch me. - Yeah, the affection has to come
from I'm really genuinely interested. - Yeah, but like-- - I get that. I respect that. - But you can
(39:33):
fuck me and then leave. And that's-- I'm happier that way. - I can't wait for my mom to listen to this episode.
- Oh, sorry mom. - No, it's okay. She-- I'll tell her it's-- she'll be fine. It's Linda. She'll-- - I am.
- She'll probably have something to say about it. Linda will say always has something to say. - Okay,
she's so cute. - We love Linda. - We love Linda. - Sorry, Linda. Linda Linda. - Okay, so anyway. - Yeah,
so listen. We play that video for sometimes. And she's like, "Doesn't that mean beautiful in Spanish?"
(39:56):
And I'm like, "Okay." - All right. - I'm glad you knew. - Got it for all. - I thought it was the name at first,
but all right. - Thank you. - Get back to it. - But we're talking about-- what the hell are we going to-- - You were
talking about your love capacity, your love language being a perfection, but really friends is the topic. - Okay.
- Yeah. - But why did-- oh my god, look at me. - I like that. - Because I'll take you anywhere. Whatever the
ship wants to go, if you want to sink the ship, I'm sinking the ship first. You want to run into the
(40:19):
iceberg. I already have the lifeboat out, okay? - I know. - Okay, I don't know where I was going with why we got off
on that. - Because you keep checking your phone. - Because I already know why. - No, no. I mean, I was checking it
for a second, but no. There was a-- like, why did I get off on that tangent of time? - Because you were
talking about-- you had a missed opportunity with the connection with her the second time that you were
(40:39):
going-- - Yeah. - I'm trying to get us back on the train, but I don't know where you were going either,
to be honest. - I don't know where I was going with this. Jesus Christ, stuff. Long story short,
winding around on the winding road. It's another song. - You dare take another tangent, my dear. - Anyway,
so we ended there and I just said, like, let's just try our best, you know, and that's really what it
(41:01):
came down to. And I-- - Oh, I hate that. - I hate that. I know. I don't know where I was going with that. - You've
been close for so long. Maybe it's just in this time in your lives, you got to hang out in a group,
not one on one. You're not seeing eye to eye. It needs to just resolve for a second the dust needs to
settle. - No, I think, like, I can move forward with that. I just-- - You do? - Yeah, I think I can. I just--
(41:23):
I think that she hasn't really created a safe place for me to, like, express how I'm feeling.
And this is the thing. Like, I'm not the victim to that and I can't expect people to act,
nor do I want them to act the way that I want them to act. That's not how life is. And I'm not that type of
friend. But what I do-- what I do, like, in a friendship, is, like, if I do bring something up to you,
(41:47):
you hear me. - Oh, no, we should expect that. - And it's not this-- I'm on the defense, or, like--
And I never called her a bad friend, and I never said-- - No, you never called her out of character.
You were just saying, "This is how I am feeling, and I'm not normally vulnerable. Listen to it."
- We've moved past it. And I just kind of know, okay, you know what, next time,
I'm not going to probably bring it up to her. Like, I'm just going to let it be, you know? - That sucks stuff.
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- No, I mean, it sucks, but I'm also, like, you know, what it is, what it is right now.
- Right now it is what it is. You've got so many other eggs and other baskets that it's okay.
- Yeah. - If I were you, I'd be like, give me the keys back, though, for a beat, because it's too much.
- But that's me. - You little bitch. - I may be. I mean, I'm going through-- maybe I'm speaking on my own experience.
- Okay, let's have a review. - Yeah, you're like, "What?" I'm having sort of a similar situation with a friend
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that I've been friends with for a long time, right, or die kind of friend. - That's important.
- And, you know, sometimes friends are just for a chapter, and I know that. I don't like that.
That is something I work against, and I'll drag people with me for, like, they're kicking and screaming behind me.
And I'm like, "No, come with me, come with me." And it's like, "No, they really were a chapter friend, like, let it the fuck go."
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- Yeah. - But I have a friend recently, and I haven't even told you this.
- Who? - So I went to San Diego. It was a lovely time. I go to see my grilies. They're like my besties that live there.
Had a great time. But while I was there, there was a guy that I was seeing, and I--
We've been long distance as friends. In my mind, I thought, maybe this could be something. This could be romantic.
You marry your best friend. I'm not somebody who's inclined to get involved with a guy usually.
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It's very few and far between. Normally, I'm like, "You, I'm like a wham bam, thank you, ma'am."
You know, we can cuddle, but then I don't lose my number. So, which is probably false hope, and that's bad.
That's a little toxic. But I'm like, "I need a cuddle right now." I just thought I don't need it to be forever with you.
You're not my boo. But, so I went to kind of connect with this person and in person, and see if this is a potential.
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It didn't go that way. We are just friends, and we're really good friends.
But I was disappointed in the moment, because I had built up in my head, we're in love.
You know? And like, I had told my parents about this guy, and I never told them about anyone.
I dated a guy for seven years and didn't really tell them until after.
You know, I really lock it down. I am. Lock it down.
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So-- You are really in the closet, my friend.
Yes! Well, no, and they're so supportive, but I was like, "I don't want to bring anyone around unless I know."
It's a yes. The circle's tight. Just like these follicles under the eyes.
We go girl. I wish. Oh god, I need the surgery so badly, but I can't. It's too expensive.
We-- every apocalypse we're going to talk about.
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I know. We're going to talk about plastic surgery.
I know. Well, listen, we started as Chris. We got to end as Chris.
And that's time. No, I'm just kidding.
It's a favorite topic. Okay. So after it transpired, the hangout was brief.
Things happened that weren't great in the interactions.
Nothing detrimental. I've talked to you. You called me pretty much right after, honestly.
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So I'm in a good place with it, but as it happened, I'm devastated.
Sure. Devastated. I had to lay on the ground. I walked him to his car.
He didn't offer to drive me home. That's okay. I was upset about it, but I said,
that's okay. I'll take an Uber. I actually do need to decompress the universe is working in my favor
in this moment, even though it doesn't feel like it.
Layed on the sidewalk in the middle of a fourth of July thing.
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And just like sat there and looked at the sky. I was like, you got to get it together.
Because this is your mess right now, you know?
So thank god you were there for me. The girls in San Diego were there for me.
Because it's not normal that you go through this. It's not an everyday emotion.
I had called her while I was on the ground. Because we've been friends for 24 years.
And I thought, you know, all the breakup she's been through in her life,
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she's going to hold it down for me. She's going to be there for me.
And she was busy and that's okay. But it opened up my eyes a little to like,
okay, when is she there for me though? When is it a two way street?
When do I feel the reciprocation on my end when I'm going through something?
I'm the emergency contact for you. When are you mine?
Yeah.
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So I used the lifeline and the lifeline was not utilized. It was totally abandoned on her in for
not just one day, two days. And by the end of the second day, I was like, look,
I need to schedule a time with you where we can talk and connect.
Yeah. Because I don't feel heard in this relationship.
Good. And I thought that that was clarity. And I thought I expressed it in a clear way.
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She may have a different opinion, but that's how I feel.
Right.
And it took her another day after I sent that to respond.
And I said, I'm going to tell you what right now I am very upset.
I said, I'm going through, I was going through something, but now I'm going through something else.
And it's with you. And you don't hold space for me. This is not a two way street.
And she flipped it on me and said, yet it's not a two way street. It's only ever about you.
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And I was shocked.
Was shocked.
Why did you say that?
I said, if that's really how you feel about me, we really have a disconnect.
And honestly, there's nothing more in my life I could bring to this relationship.
I worry about you above almost anyone other than my brothers, my sisters, my mother, my father.
Like I worry about you. I'm concerned about you. I love you.
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Yeah.
And if you think that I'm not giving you everything, you need to go find it.
Because it's I can't give you more.
And you are not even asking how I'm doing when I'm telling you I'm not doing well.
You didn't even ask.
So would she say to that?
Oh, she dumped a lot of stuff on me. She, you know, said she's a yoga instructor.
She's all about peace and light, which what the fuck does that mean?
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What's that got to do with the conversation that we're having?
I mean, totally ignored my feelings. Never asked about what's actually going on.
Nothing.
So I just told her I said, reread this in a couple of days.
But like, just know that like, we are taking space from each other.
And now an update that happened today, the guy that you know that I went to see.
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Guess what? She called him.
No, Stephanie. She called him to say what?
To see if I'm okay mentally.
This is someone that she is not close with.
That's the stuff.
So both of these people are separately. I'm close with them.
It's not like we hang out all together.
Right. Right.
They were in the same class in college, but they are not close like that.
And she didn't ask him how he's doing either.
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And they haven't spoken in years.
I'm like, could you prove my point more?
Oh my god. Are you done?
Are you done?
Oh, when he, because he and I are close, even though,
I know, you'll probably listen to this and he'd be like, you were in love with me.
And I'm like, listen, just we'll talk about it.
Just move on. Just move on.
Just ignore that. Ignore that.
Ignore that. Okay. It was me. It was me.
It was me. Okay.
You're so hot and such a lovely human who wouldn't be in love with you.
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You're the best anyway.
But he told me and I was like, okay, well, I don't care what she said.
Really, I want to make sure that you don't think something's going on with me.
It's good to check in with your friend that you've known for a long time.
And he was like, no, you're good.
I didn't know why she contacted me.
Why didn't she ask how I'm doing?
We haven't spoken in years.
And I was like, and I said, you know what?
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That is sign still delivered.
Not mine.
Yeah, yeah.
Out.
Out the door.
Well, I think it's just like, listen, as shitty as it is,
I think like your take away from this is like, you know, as we get older, like,
who, what type of friends do we want around us, right?
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And I do want that friend around me.
I do love her and I do cherish it.
No, I like your friend for you.
I think you're not seeing eye to eye at this moment.
Yeah, and that's okay.
And things happen like that.
But, you know, and things are going to come up.
But ultimately, like, it's like, like, working through it and getting back on track.
Just like any relationship, right?
But like for you, this, it's, I mean, appalling what she did.
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I think for you, it's like, you know what?
Like, she is definitely not somebody I'd want in my life and as a friend.
And right now, it's a no.
And that's fine.
No, and I think like, yeah, like maybe right now and maybe forever?
Who knows?
For me, it's forever right now.
Yeah.
She would have to, I don't want to say crawl back because nobody should ever do that.
But something would have to drastically change and there would have to be total acknowledgement
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on the wrong doing.
But she's now acting like I'm a crazy person and I'm like, I,
I was so right to let that go.
But you and I are having a similar disconnect in the way that it felt one-sided.
Yeah.
So that's interesting that we're both experiencing that similarly.
Yeah, I felt like the blame game when it's like, you know, being honest with somebody
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and wanting your friend to be there and hear you and create that space for you is like,
that's what it's about.
Yeah, that's what a friendship is.
You can't do that.
Then why do you need them in your life?
Just like with a partner, right?
Like, it's easier said than done with a partner.
Because then you've got that kind of love relationship.
Yeah, then you've got your friends already behind you.
Yeah, but I'm sorry, that's hard.
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And I didn't say all that to make it about me.
I'm saying, but I do, you know, your friends.
So I was going to tell you anyway.
But I hate that that's the disconnect you're having with this one.
And you too, I hate that it's for you.
I'm kind of, at this point, I mean, I know it's new information today.
But the chemicals are working in my brain because I'm like, look,
that was so good that you dipped out of that.
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Because if she's like that, you don't need that.
Totally.
And I hope she's okay, but it's not for me to deal with.
Not your jam.
No, you don't need to do that.
I hope the person coming back to you, I can't talk about myself this long
and fucking hate it.
I really hope that you and her have a connect in the next time we're on this.
Either you've had enough space and it's okay.
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Or you continue to be like, I'm fine with it.
I'm fine with it.
I think, you know, you just kind of see and there's no, it's not she's a bad person.
She's been a good friend in a lot of ways.
It's just like, you know, you don't, if I'm not there attacking you or saying horrible things,
there's no reason to get defensive.
There's no reason to say, would I do this and this and this for you?
If I was going at her being like, you're a terrible friend, you're this,
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then she's every right to feel defensive and attacked
and point out the things that she does.
But I didn't do that.
I said, this is how I feel.
Like, hear me.
And then it was like, she made me feel bad for feeling that way.
And it's like, that's not how she feels.
She can't belittle how you feel.
And also, if you are saying, hey, you're not being a good friend to me in this moment.
As a friend, you should be able to listen to your friend at the very least and be like,
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well, what do I need to improve on?
Like, what do you need more from me?
Right, right.
Damn, did I bore you, Steph?
Bitch, I had a late night last night.
I know you did.
Not with her.
Not with her.
Not with me.
Because I was, no, look, I'm in the house, honey.
I know, baby.
I am usually playing.
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He's so fucking hot here.
I can't even.
Are you hot in the house?
Do I need to turn around?
No, I'm okay right now.
Okay.
No, but it's just so fucking hot outside.
I'm over the summer.
I don't want it to continue.
It needs to stop.
I'm a summer baby and I feel bad for my poor mother every time I think of my birthday.
I'm like, she was sweating in that hospital.
Trying to push this 25 pound baby out of her.
That was not.
I was seven even.
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I was going to say there's no fucking way that you're 25.
No, I weighed more than I do now.
Yeah, exactly.
Benjamin Button lunch.
Jesus Christ.
You know what?
I do have a question about Benjamin Button.
Here we go.
We're going to come back to the friendship.
But I do now that we're on it.
I need to know about Benjamin Button.
Was he born as a big person or was he born as a baby?
He's born as a baby.
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Okay, I needed to know that because his poor mother, he would have eaten her alive.
He ate.
Like alien.
Like birth from alien.
I think right.
So he was born a baby.
He aged quickly.
Then he went backwards.
So he was physically.
He aged correctly, but mentally opposite.
No, but then didn't he start to look younger again?
Or no?
Or is he always say, Jesus, I can't...
I got it backwards.
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Yeah, no.
He's physically.
They don't care.
Who cares?
I'll buy an end to this house.
But like, no, we don't even care.
Who cares?
No, but I know that you say that.
But along those lines, you know that influencer, I don't know if he's an influencer, but he's
like in Russia and he's like, Putin?
He know he's like a kid.
Fuck you.
He's like pretty much he is an influencer.
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He's like a kid looking guy and they do a lot of memes with him.
Oh, yes.
No, I know what you're talking about.
Okay.
Yeah, I really thought it was a kid for...
I thought we had another anti-millanopathy on the situation.
Fucking.
Yeah.
I'm like, wait, this is a full blown adult.
Dude, thank you.
You're so funny.
Dude, so funny.
He's so funny, but hold on.
I don't know what he thinks social economically, but he's fun.
This guy that I was hooking up with for a while.
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Okay, here we go.
Last year.
So, we're like hanging out and I'm like on my phone and like up comes this kid man.
Yeah, kid man.
We'll call him that.
Put a great name for a premise of a film.
Kid man.
You would go out to see it.
And I definitely would be buying the ticket.
So, it comes up and I was like, oh my gosh, this kid is so cute.
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I swear to God, the look that I got from the guy that I was with was like, what the fuck
did you just say?
I didn't know it was an adult.
Yeah.
So, this kid and he goes, that's a grown-ass man.
When was this?
When did you find that out?
Last year!
No, because I didn't find out till this year, bitch.
Oh my God, you're worse than me.
No, I am.
So hold on.
So I.
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You're definitely smarter than me.
Hello.
So, I immediately text my bestie that I've been best friends with since I was four Lauren.
She is like, oh, we love her.
My heart and soul.
What she makes me laugh harder, no offense than anybody out in this world.
No, it's not offensive to me.
She is.
She's your best friend.
Oh my God, I love her so much.
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We just look at each other in life.
And I accept that as a challenge to make you laugh harder.
There we go.
There we go.
I knew that was coming.
Yeah.
So, not competitive on a game, but I am on the left right.
You're knowing how she thinks.
I immediately text her and go, holy shit, do you know that this kid quotes is really a grown
ass man.
I wish I had been there for that moment, because she goes, what the fuck are you talking
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about?
She didn't know.
She didn't know.
She doesn't tell her husband and her husband's like, oh my God, Laura, what are you doing?
So her and I are laughing hysterically.
And the guy that I was fucking was like, oh my God, you are an idiot.
How do you not know this?
I was like, how do you know this?
Yeah, how did he know?
Like, how do you know?
Because it looks like a baby.
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It looks like a four year old.
It looks like a kid.
I don't know.
I thought it was a toddler.
I thought it was like that.
Apparently, I thought it was that kid.
I honestly did for the longest time.
I can't understand.
How is this public knowledge?
I didn't know that.
But also, we don't know when this stuff was filmed.
It could have been filmed 10 years ago.
And now we're seeing the foot.
I didn't know that it was new footage every day of the same person, not aging.
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I know.
I cannot.
It's been newer that I found it out.
I'm feeling for him.
I can't.
I'm glad that you just found that out too.
No, I found out literally a month ago.
Oh my God, you're worse than me.
No, I am way worse.
And I found out alone didn't tell anyone because I was embarrassed.
I was embarrassed.
You know, sometimes you're kind of stupid about something and you're like, I got to tell
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you because this is funny.
You tell your friend.
I was like, no, I can't tell anyone.
No one will ever know.
So now I'll tell my podcast.
I was embarrassed.
It was fun.
I was like a true confessional right now.
This is why we're friends.
Never been to Catholic church, but this would be my first confession.
Dear father or mother, I have sitting while they're always fathers.
First of their father.
Do you know that?
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I'm not Catholic.
Who the fuck care?
They don't have women in the Catholic church.
That's how you know I couldn't be in there.
I'd be like, excuse me, where's the woman?
Excuse me.
Oh my god.
They're like coming here and tell me what you did.
And I'm like, first of all, correct your tone.
Okay.
Second of all, did you know that this guy right here?
Can you open the thing?
Because I got to show you this kid.
This is not a kid.
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Open the thing.
Yeah.
I actually forgot what those are called.
Dial tone.
B, B, B.
It may have felt like we ended abruptly here, but actually I think this is the perfect
place to stop.
This was a really fun conversation about friendships and what's so important is that you
listen to one another, which I think I could always work on as is the case throughout this
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episode.
But I, you know, it's important to be in an environment in which you feel like you are
able to express your feelings, your emotions, whatever they are, no matter how rampant they
are, no matter how fast they're coming about or slow, they're coming about.
You need someone that can be with you in those emotions and validate that you are in
a safe space and that you can be listened to.
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So whether you have that going on for you or not right now, I hope that you find it.
And the second half of the conversation, because we kept the mic rolling for a little
bit longer than I normally do, I didn't adhere to my normal time restrictions on this podcast
episode.
But for the audience's purpose, I set out an intention at the beginning of this when
I curated this podcast, you've got an hour that it would only be an hour, you know, or
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else.
The whole premise kind of falls apart.
So I'm upholding that and the second part of this episode deals with spirituality and
seeing our ancestors and never really losing them.
Thanks everybody for listening and sorry, Ma, that we cussed so much in this episode.
Next week we're going to be talking about Harold and Ma, it's a film that I recommend you
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watch, whether you do before the episode doesn't really matter.
The conversation is mostly about grief and that's something that I also think more of
us need to be discussing.
You know, it's not linear, it comes in it goes.
That's where the topic goes next week.
I'm really excited.
But again, you should watch Harold and Ma, if you want to know all the ins and outs of what's
going on.
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It's like one of those movies that they put in the top 100 lists.
And it's Stephanie's favorite.
So it's a fun one.
Yes, Stephanie's back next week.
That's my little teaser for you.
Anyway, thank you for listening.
Thanks Stephanie for being here.
Thanks mom and dad for appearing on the podcast and Chris Capuchino, you're fired.
That's time.
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