December 18, 2025 • 11 mins
San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan highlighted Indianapolis' run defense, reflected on overcoming injuries, and emphasized a one-week-at-a-time approach with the playoffs on the line.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's so, guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Injuries for today, Nick Martin still in the protocol, Jordan
Elliott knee won't practice, Burford knee ankle, won't practice, Ricky
Person knee ankle, won't practice.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But thene inkle.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Limited, samo inkle limited, you tour hamstring limited, Ernardo Green
neck limited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's it. But he's good to go.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh, he's in practice squads.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We don't have to say, right, so I'll give it
to you guys. He's limited too.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
He is good to go.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, yeah, he'll practice.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Look at the towards the end of the game that
Jennings took a shot and came off kind of slow.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
There was no rib injury or anything.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I know it heard him there because he missed a
couple of plays later for it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But you know he checked. How good this weekend he's
not on here.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Chance Ricky can play on Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, there is a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He's doing a lot better today than he was on Monday,
and extra day will help.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So he's got shot.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
McCaffrey has a chance to break Roger craigs is a
record for most catches by running back. What's that record
mean to you? I guess historically him and what kind
of a complso will that be for Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I honestly haven't thought about it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, Roger Craig is such a hell of a
player and cool guy from the past with all those stats.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But I mean, I remember we had a.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
One time I was with a running back who broke
a record for the most catches in a game. I
think it was like fourteen, but they're all but it
was for like fifty yards, which mount The quarterback is
going to the checkdown way too much, so I felt
differently there. I don't feel that way necessary to Christian.
He's had some big plays as number one down the field.
He's also has some huge checkdowns. He's also takes the
ball a ton as our runner. So it's been unbelievable
(01:52):
year for Christians so far. So it's cool to get
any records that he has to go with.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It from Philip. When you turn on the tape.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I see I mean, he is a little bit older,
so might not quite be as fast, might not quite
be able to throw it at the same distance that
he used to. But you don't know that for sure
because you don't get.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To see it exactly on tape.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But I see a guy who knows how to play
the position as good as anyone. I think he had
twenty seven throws in that game, and every ball goes
to the exact right spot he attacked. Their coverage is great.
He played against a very good pass rush and was
able to get rid of the ball. It's one of
the best quarterbacks I've ever watched, and he definitely helped
that team.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You mentioned that he was on some of those Zoom
meetings I think in twenty twenty two. How what was that, like,
how often was he on a meeting and was he
just kind of lurking in the background.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, he was just Yeah, it wasn't I mean I
didn't talk to him that much, just at the beginning,
and would check in with him every couple of months
and then towards the end. But he was just staying
with it just in case it was needed and in
case something changed, And I mean he was always in.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There, but no one really knew.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So it was, as you said, lurking in the background,
but he was always ready if the moment happened. And
on the moment it happened to the NFC Championship, but
we didn't win, so it never came to fruition.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You're coaching a game and someone like Christian's like on
the verge of maybe doing a thousand thousand again, do
you even hear about that stuff? Does somebody feeds you
information if it's if it's getting one of them milestones
are getting close, or do you not even want to
hear it?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, people have fed it's me in the past and
I didn't react that well, so they're hesitant to feed
it to me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If the game was out of hand or something.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'd love to know something like that, like to help
someone out or something, but you don't know that really,
Like I know it if I'm prepared for questions and stuff.
But when you chase things like that, I've I've learned
the hard way and been a part of people have
learned the hard way doing that, and you hope it
comes naturally. But if there's ever a time that you're
going to help someone, whether it's get a bonus, a record,
(03:46):
or anything like that, that's something we always want to do.
I know Kb's one yard away from his bonus, but
the fact that he's spawn on that screen at the
last the other game, I said, it's on him. But
we should be able to get one more everyone has.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Twenty twenty two. Was Philip only coming here if he
was starting, Yes, yeah, Like did you want him to
come here as a backup so that he potentially could
have been available if it brought got injured in game?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, But I don't think it was like that. I mean,
he wasn't, just like I'm sure it wasn't with Indy.
I mean, I don't know what happened with Indy, but
I mean he was enjoying life with the sun and
doing those things, still working out, and when we lost
two of our guys and we had one left, that
was when the talks became real. Josh Johnson came and
got used to being our backup and stuff, so we
were all right in the backup role. But he was
(04:38):
always working and planning for the opportunity if he needed
to start.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
At the NFL in the quarterback position, where a forty
four year old with diminishing physical skills can have more
success than a twenty two year old with all the
physical skills in.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The world, because when you go against defenses like it's
very rare, especially I mean, you just pick up Seattle
last week. You're not going to run away from something
like that. You know, now athletic ever a really good
defense very rarely or you have to be you know,
so on a lead level like someone like vic Or
or you know, Lamar or something like that, just athletically
run away from teams. You got to be able to
(05:10):
get rid of the ball. And to be be able
to get rid of the ball is it's a unique
talent that doesn't just some people haven't and some people don't.
Whether it's vision, whether it's arm throwing angles, whether it's
mental processing, like whether it's just your feel and clear
mind in the pocket. But when things are moving fast
at an elite level, you don't athletically it's it's really
(05:31):
hard to get away from those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's about getting rid of the ball and letting someone
else do it. Of concern with the run defense right now,
I mean, yeah, it hasn't been good enough.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We know, we know we need to do better, especially
with the challenge coming up this week with such a
great running team. Uh And I consider and make excuses
for stats and things like that, but it hasn't been
good enough. So we work on it schematically, we work
on it individually with players and stuff like that, and
we're hoping we can have a better show in this
weekend digs tailor in that run game.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, one, they have a great O line. They
have to me.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
As good of a group of receivers as far as
they have all the elements of They all have size
to block, they have speed, and they're they all have
very good hands, their tight ends very good, so they're
very good around them. And then then you just look
at the back. You know, you've got a four to
three back who can who has the weight to run
people over, who can break tackles. I mean, and he's
(06:26):
been doing it for a long time, so anytime you
have a natural running back who gets to the right
holes and has great vision, but also has a lead
talent with a great supporting cast around him and a
very good scheme. You know, Shane's always done a real
good job in the run game Man Pass game, So
I mean they got all of it going.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Closely would be watching the Thursday nine game tonight, not.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Much at all, Like it's Wednesday to us, and Wednesday
would be really really tough for me to watch TV
until later to win the game's over, so we won't
see much of it.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Approach with the win in your in scenario. You know,
early in the season we asked questions and there were
always hypothetical star are and what hypothetical if you guys win,
you're in with all the injuries you've had to overcome.
What does this opportunity mean to you and the team?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, getting in the playoffs is our first goal.
So we have an opportunity this week to do it,
and if we don't want, an opportunity the next two
weeks also. But it's you know, when you look at
that all the things that are up in there and
the things that can change. We also have an opportunity
knet in the playoffs by not handling our business in
any of these three games. So you know, I talked
to the team the first time this morning in a
(07:28):
couple of days, and the only thing we talked about
was the Cults.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
What does Anarubo's defense look like?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I would you watch about film? Very good?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, definitely, you know very You know they'll probably
get bucked back this week, but you can see why
why their team was rolling. You know, I know it
was tough for them, losing Sauce, losing Mooney and losing Buck.
When you lose three of your best players, it is
tough to keep at the level they were playing, which
takes our numbers down and stuff to a degree. But
when you turn on the tape, I think it's one
(07:58):
of the best defenses we've seen this league this year.
They're I think number one versus the run at least
in yards per carry. They stopped that very well. Low's
always had very good zone defenses and mixes it up
with pressure and you half of the time, so he
puts a lot of pressure on you. In the past
game they stopped the run game and that usually leads
to turnovers and stuff. So and I know they're going
(08:19):
to get some guys back this week. But regardless, I
see one of the best teams we've seen on tape.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
His bucket just in terms of what you guys, when
he was here in your first couple of years and
what you established and is he still playing before the injury?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Was he still playing it? Yeah, Buck looks like the
same guy. To me. Buck was huge for us, such
a stud of a person when we got here.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He was a dude who just did things the right way.
Just to me, naturally, that must come from how he
was raised, coming out of college, whatever it was, but
he did things the right way from day one.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Such a good talent.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
One of the main reasons we had such a good
started with him on the D line in nineteen and
I was very grateful for my time here with Buck.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
I've seen Nick Martin running a side field last week
or so. I mean, is he reached a stage in
that protocol that he just can't get pasted? Is he
still exhibiting symptoms.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Of the concussion.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, that's why he's in the protocol. I don't get
too much in the details of the protocol, but there's
so many things you can feel normal and everything, and
if you have one deal of a headache or standing
up and you get dizzy or I'm not getting in
particulars with him, but light could hurt you randomly one time,
and once that happens, and then it's a step back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So it's really nice that we're completely taken out of it.
But the protocols and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That that those guys go through are pretty intense, and you
got to clear in every way more.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
How you question, I mean, it seems quite clear. Well,
you know, we don't know exactly all the people obviously,
but it seems clear he played a role in getting
it to this point where he's no.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Longer with the tape.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Do you look back, whether personally or just organizationally, and
like since the time he saided that pitch and have
any regrets like maybe we could have done this or
done that or handled this better.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, they didn't get a hangout around Ayuk much
since he tours the ACL in Week seven I think
versus Kansas City. So he's been trying to get him
back to our team really since then and haven't been
able to pull that off. So haven't totally had the
opportunity to get him part of our team. He's been
extremely distant since he got hurt and was hoping it
would happen once he got healthy, but never happened, you know.
(10:31):
I mean, I don't look at anything right now but
our football team playing the Colts. What we have going now,
not stuff that I haven't thought about since July.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
There was that period where he was on the field
for training camp and before games.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
It looked like he was wanting to be here, But
was there more going on behind the season we didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I think obviously, what have you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Seen from guys like Gifford and Neil on special teams
this year.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think they've been awesome for US studs, both of them.
Neil has been to me, one of the better players
in the league at his role, gets been huge at it,
and he's also pilled a good role for US on defense.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Nels.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Guys, all right, thanks guys, thank you.
It's so, guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Injuries for today, Nick Martin still in the protocol, Jordan
Elliott knee won't practice, Burford knee ankle, won't practice, Ricky
Person knee ankle, won't practice.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But thene inkle.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Limited, samo inkle limited, you tour hamstring limited, Ernardo Green
neck limited.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's it. But he's good to go.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh, he's in practice squads.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We don't have to say, right, so I'll give it
to you guys. He's limited too.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
He is good to go.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yes, yeah, he'll practice.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Look at the towards the end of the game that
Jennings took a shot and came off kind of slow.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
There was no rib injury or anything.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I know it heard him there because he missed a
couple of plays later for it.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
But you know he checked. How good this weekend he's
not on here.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Chance Ricky can play on Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yes, there is a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He's doing a lot better today than he was on Monday,
and extra day will help.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So he's got shot.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
McCaffrey has a chance to break Roger craigs is a
record for most catches by running back. What's that record
mean to you? I guess historically him and what kind
of a complso will that be for Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I honestly haven't thought about it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean, Roger Craig is such a hell of a
player and cool guy from the past with all those stats.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
But I mean, I remember we had a.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
One time I was with a running back who broke
a record for the most catches in a game. I
think it was like fourteen, but they're all but it
was for like fifty yards, which mount The quarterback is
going to the checkdown way too much, so I felt
differently there. I don't feel that way necessary to Christian.
He's had some big plays as number one down the field.
He's also has some huge checkdowns. He's also takes the
ball a ton as our runner. So it's been unbelievable
(01:52):
year for Christians so far. So it's cool to get
any records that he has to go with.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It from Philip. When you turn on the tape.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I see I mean, he is a little bit older,
so might not quite be as fast, might not quite
be able to throw it at the same distance that
he used to. But you don't know that for sure
because you don't get.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To see it exactly on tape.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But I see a guy who knows how to play
the position as good as anyone. I think he had
twenty seven throws in that game, and every ball goes
to the exact right spot he attacked. Their coverage is great.
He played against a very good pass rush and was
able to get rid of the ball. It's one of
the best quarterbacks I've ever watched, and he definitely helped
that team.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You mentioned that he was on some of those Zoom
meetings I think in twenty twenty two. How what was that, like,
how often was he on a meeting and was he
just kind of lurking in the background.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, he was just Yeah, it wasn't I mean I
didn't talk to him that much, just at the beginning,
and would check in with him every couple of months
and then towards the end. But he was just staying
with it just in case it was needed and in
case something changed, And I mean he was always in.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There, but no one really knew.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So it was, as you said, lurking in the background,
but he was always ready if the moment happened. And
on the moment it happened to the NFC Championship, but
we didn't win, so it never came to fruition.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You're coaching a game and someone like Christian's like on
the verge of maybe doing a thousand thousand again, do
you even hear about that stuff? Does somebody feeds you
information if it's if it's getting one of them milestones
are getting close, or do you not even want to
hear it?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, people have fed it's me in the past and
I didn't react that well, so they're hesitant to feed
it to me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
If the game was out of hand or something.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'd love to know something like that, like to help
someone out or something, but you don't know that really,
Like I know it if I'm prepared for questions and stuff.
But when you chase things like that, I've I've learned
the hard way and been a part of people have
learned the hard way doing that, and you hope it
comes naturally. But if there's ever a time that you're
going to help someone, whether it's get a bonus, a record,
(03:46):
or anything like that, that's something we always want to do.
I know Kb's one yard away from his bonus, but
the fact that he's spawn on that screen at the
last the other game, I said, it's on him. But
we should be able to get one more everyone has.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Twenty twenty two. Was Philip only coming here if he
was starting, Yes, yeah, Like did you want him to
come here as a backup so that he potentially could
have been available if it brought got injured in game?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, But I don't think it was like that. I mean,
he wasn't, just like I'm sure it wasn't with Indy.
I mean, I don't know what happened with Indy, but
I mean he was enjoying life with the sun and
doing those things, still working out, and when we lost
two of our guys and we had one left, that
was when the talks became real. Josh Johnson came and
got used to being our backup and stuff, so we
were all right in the backup role. But he was
(04:38):
always working and planning for the opportunity if he needed
to start.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
At the NFL in the quarterback position, where a forty
four year old with diminishing physical skills can have more
success than a twenty two year old with all the
physical skills in.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The world, because when you go against defenses like it's
very rare, especially I mean, you just pick up Seattle
last week. You're not going to run away from something
like that. You know, now athletic ever a really good
defense very rarely or you have to be you know,
so on a lead level like someone like vic Or
or you know, Lamar or something like that, just athletically
run away from teams. You got to be able to
(05:10):
get rid of the ball. And to be be able
to get rid of the ball is it's a unique
talent that doesn't just some people haven't and some people don't.
Whether it's vision, whether it's arm throwing angles, whether it's
mental processing, like whether it's just your feel and clear
mind in the pocket. But when things are moving fast
at an elite level, you don't athletically it's it's really
(05:31):
hard to get away from those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It's about getting rid of the ball and letting someone
else do it. Of concern with the run defense right now,
I mean, yeah, it hasn't been good enough.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We know, we know we need to do better, especially
with the challenge coming up this week with such a
great running team. Uh And I consider and make excuses
for stats and things like that, but it hasn't been
good enough. So we work on it schematically, we work
on it individually with players and stuff like that, and
we're hoping we can have a better show in this
weekend digs tailor in that run game.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, one, they have a great O line. They
have to me.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
As good of a group of receivers as far as
they have all the elements of They all have size
to block, they have speed, and they're they all have
very good hands, their tight ends very good, so they're
very good around them. And then then you just look
at the back. You know, you've got a four to
three back who can who has the weight to run
people over, who can break tackles. I mean, and he's
(06:26):
been doing it for a long time, so anytime you
have a natural running back who gets to the right
holes and has great vision, but also has a lead
talent with a great supporting cast around him and a
very good scheme. You know, Shane's always done a real
good job in the run game Man Pass game, So
I mean they got all of it going.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Closely would be watching the Thursday nine game tonight, not.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Much at all, Like it's Wednesday to us, and Wednesday
would be really really tough for me to watch TV
until later to win the game's over, so we won't
see much of it.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Approach with the win in your in scenario. You know,
early in the season we asked questions and there were
always hypothetical star are and what hypothetical if you guys win,
you're in with all the injuries you've had to overcome.
What does this opportunity mean to you and the team?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I mean, getting in the playoffs is our first goal.
So we have an opportunity this week to do it,
and if we don't want, an opportunity the next two
weeks also. But it's you know, when you look at
that all the things that are up in there and
the things that can change. We also have an opportunity
knet in the playoffs by not handling our business in
any of these three games. So you know, I talked
to the team the first time this morning in a
(07:28):
couple of days, and the only thing we talked about
was the Cults.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
What does Anarubo's defense look like?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I would you watch about film? Very good?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You know, definitely, you know very You know they'll probably
get bucked back this week, but you can see why
why their team was rolling. You know, I know it
was tough for them, losing Sauce, losing Mooney and losing Buck.
When you lose three of your best players, it is
tough to keep at the level they were playing, which
takes our numbers down and stuff to a degree. But
when you turn on the tape, I think it's one
(07:58):
of the best defenses we've seen this league this year.
They're I think number one versus the run at least
in yards per carry. They stopped that very well. Low's
always had very good zone defenses and mixes it up
with pressure and you half of the time, so he
puts a lot of pressure on you. In the past
game they stopped the run game and that usually leads
to turnovers and stuff. So and I know they're going
(08:19):
to get some guys back this week. But regardless, I
see one of the best teams we've seen on tape.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
His bucket just in terms of what you guys, when
he was here in your first couple of years and
what you established and is he still playing before the injury?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Was he still playing it? Yeah, Buck looks like the
same guy. To me. Buck was huge for us, such
a stud of a person when we got here.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He was a dude who just did things the right way.
Just to me, naturally, that must come from how he
was raised, coming out of college, whatever it was, but
he did things the right way from day one.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Such a good talent.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
One of the main reasons we had such a good
started with him on the D line in nineteen and
I was very grateful for my time here with Buck.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
I've seen Nick Martin running a side field last week
or so. I mean, is he reached a stage in
that protocol that he just can't get pasted? Is he
still exhibiting symptoms.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Of the concussion.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, that's why he's in the protocol. I don't get
too much in the details of the protocol, but there's
so many things you can feel normal and everything, and
if you have one deal of a headache or standing
up and you get dizzy or I'm not getting in
particulars with him, but light could hurt you randomly one time,
and once that happens, and then it's a step back.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So it's really nice that we're completely taken out of it.
But the protocols and stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That that those guys go through are pretty intense, and you
got to clear in every way more.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
How you question, I mean, it seems quite clear. Well,
you know, we don't know exactly all the people obviously,
but it seems clear he played a role in getting
it to this point where he's no.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Longer with the tape.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Do you look back, whether personally or just organizationally, and
like since the time he saided that pitch and have
any regrets like maybe we could have done this or
done that or handled this better.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I mean, they didn't get a hangout around Ayuk much
since he tours the ACL in Week seven I think
versus Kansas City. So he's been trying to get him
back to our team really since then and haven't been
able to pull that off. So haven't totally had the
opportunity to get him part of our team. He's been
extremely distant since he got hurt and was hoping it
would happen once he got healthy, but never happened, you know.
(10:31):
I mean, I don't look at anything right now but
our football team playing the Colts. What we have going now,
not stuff that I haven't thought about since July.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
There was that period where he was on the field
for training camp and before games.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
It looked like he was wanting to be here, But
was there more going on behind the season we didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I think obviously, what have you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Seen from guys like Gifford and Neil on special teams
this year.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I think they've been awesome for US studs, both of them.
Neil has been to me, one of the better players
in the league at his role, gets been huge at it,
and he's also pilled a good role for US on defense.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Nels.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Guys, all right, thanks guys, thank you.
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