Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young joined the 49ers “You’ve Got Mail” podcast presented by Delta Dental to discuss the 49ers strategy for Week 18 and the Bye, talk winning locker room culture and answer fan-submitted questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
What's up, faithful, Welcome to the forty nine Ers. You've
got Mail Podcasts presented by Delta Dental. I'm Lindsay Plaris,
and we've got a very special guest in studio today,
three times Super Bowl champ Hall of Fame quarterback. The
list could go on. Broadcaster, mister Steve Young, Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So, Steve, you are a part You were a part
of three Super Bowl teams, a bunch of great games,
and now you've remained a Bay Area resident and you
get to watch this twenty twenty three to forty nine
Ers team clinch the number one seed in the NFC
for the tenth time in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How much fun are you having watching this team?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's the fun is in the memories, like, oh, I
remember when it felt like that, I remember that moment
when we clinched, or I remember when we got the
bye week, I remember when you know, it was those
kinds of things because they're familiar and uh and the
joy watching you know, Debo and Trent and the Gang,
George watch the Cardinals come and beat the Eagles and
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right in front of it, like that reminds me of
those moments, and so I love it for these guys,
and I also love it that it reminds me of
such kind of cool memories for myself.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have there been any standout games this season that have
really brought you back to one of your playing day seasons?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think when they went to Philadelphia, because when we
had played Dallas in the regular season, because we knew,
we thought that you'd end up seeing each other in
this in the championship game. They had seen Philadelphia in
the championship game. So those games are the markers for
how the season's going, everyone's watching, and so I'm familiar
with those kinds of games, you know, the big Monday
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night games.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The ones against the Ravens on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Like, there's these moments that Candlestick used to I used
to think that that old stadium, it would it would move,
you know, it would people were in there, and it
would and I think it probably did move a little bit,
because I don't have I don't know how stable it
really was, but it was like there was an emotion
and there was always these big games and they felt
big and they and the emotion that was in the
stadium and the people that were there they got to
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know each other, they sat next to each other through generation,
and it's like, I'm starting to feel that here, which
is super cool.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We hear a lot of this current team, and really
every team talk about this one and o season and
that every game matters. But is it when you look
back on your career that you look at those games
that some of them were a little bit bigger than others.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. I think that we were in a situation.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I started in eighty seven and we were in the
number one seed for eight of nine years. So like
it became you know, the team that this is the
team this year is what we felt like we were
doing every year, and so the big games were everywhere
every week.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, this is never.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And so I think that's how I bet you the
guys that played this season, I think they look back
on the year, what was the big games?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Are?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Like, Man, every game felt like, you know, everyone's super
Bowl against the big team, And so I think that
that's who the forty nine ers are today and that's
who we felt like we were back in the day.
Is that like we were everyone's super Bowl and we're
good with that and we actually like and relish that role.
And I think that's what I'm very familiar with this
football team this season, is that feels very familiar about
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how they look at the world, who they are, and
I love that about them.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That number one seed became very familiar for the teams
that you were a part of, but it is in
fact a very rare and big accomplishment for teams in general.
How rare is it to clinch that number one seed
in week seventeen, have Week eighteen be low stakes, and
then have that first round by so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's happened, we have I don't. I felt like it
happened every year, but I know that it didn't. But
it did. I know it happened a few times.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And it was always a complex situation because as football players,
you love some rest. It's been a long year, and
getting a break mentally, if not physically for sure, but
mentally too is a beautiful thing. But it also has
a double edged sword because in some ways football is
an emotional game, and if you're not emotionally ready, if
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you're not you know, up to the kind of that
white hot competitive feeling, you aren't going to play as well.
So and you get that from just having it come
every week, and so there's we loved those years when
we clinched early. And I remember one year the Giants
needed us to win the last game. I want to
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say it was we were playing the Vikings and we
didn't win, but we didn't No one played really, you know.
And that was the famous Phil Simms when he said.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The forty nine ers laid down like dogs, and like
Ronnie Lott remembered that and went after him the next year.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But those are the situations that you love to be
and you love to be able to decide for yourself.
You've earned the right to decide for your self what
you want to do and how you want to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's a fun spot to be.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
In the quarterback position obviously probably the toughest position in football.
In order to stay mentally sharp, how do you do
that in a twenty one day span.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's real discipline to it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You you have to be willing to sacrifice kind of
everything in your off time every.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Week, and that discipline is hard.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
You know, Like human beings, we love a break, like hey,
you know, I need to take a break, And there
is no break in great football in the NFL. If
you want to play great football every week. There's a
discipline to how you get the game plan on Tuesday,
hopefully afternoon, when the coaches have it fresh, maybe as
late as Tuesday night, you start memorizing it. Wednesday goes
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into the preparation. Thursday, Friday and the goal line short yardage,
and Saturday is the day to kind of put it
all together. If you don't hold yourself accountable to the
data of the game plan every week, the motion, the blitz,
the tendencies, then you're you're not going to play as well.
And I don't care how good you really think you are.
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Owning the data every week is the secret. Anyone who's
watched Tom Brady play or Peyton Manning play recently recent
history knows that that's that's the secret. I watched Joe
do that. I remember this funny story when I first
joined the team and h and uh, you know, Bill
WALTSH would come in and he's doing the installations on
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Wednesday morning and we just got in the books just
I'm fifteen minutes earlier, and I was leafing through it
trying to see what's going on. And Bill would ask
a question, and who what do we do here? And
Joe would always like, well, you know, that's what we
do and.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm like, yeah, the just got the book and uh.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And after that happened a couple of times, I was
talking to Mike Holmgren, the offensive coordinate.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's like, how does he do that?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He goes I fax it to him Tuesday night and
I was like, well, then, in fact it to me.
And that became, you know, watching Joe prepare and the
data and how he you know, owned that data was
what I learned to do the same. Like that was
the secret power in quarterbacking. And the guys that are
willing to go through the discipline of doing that, going
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to school every Tuesday through Saturday is the is the key.
And that's most great players that I've known through the
years are not willing to do that. They'll do some
of it, but they will not stay the course every
week all week to make sure that they own the data.
And those are the guys that are the guys that
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do that, are the guys that are MVPs and.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Pro Bowls and Super Bowls. That's just that's just the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I tell Lizzie, I tell other players other young quarterbacks,
if you want to be great, this is how you
do it, And I'd say that most don't listen because
it's hard, especially when you're one of the great athletes
that ever lived. Well, what do you mean I'm going
to get a a minus on the test anyway? I
don't want to go through that all that rigor, you know.
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And so I was like, no, you got to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And for the rest of the players on the team,
just the forty nine ers injury list is so long
that I don't really have the luxury of resting everybody
at this point in the season. What's the wear and
tear on your body.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Everyone's beat down.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
But I think not just physically again, I tell you
about emotionally. People don't realize how the emotional strain on
the body and on the mental strain, and a lot of.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Times that's more important to take the rest, especially for
some guys.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But if I said, if you're hurt and you need
the rest, man, there's nothing better than getting completely healthy.
Nothing beats you can be take six weeks off to
get right, because if you're right, you're going to play better.
But if you're healthy, man, I want to play a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So the Rams are taking a very similar approach to
the forty nine ers, also resting Matt Stafford along with
a slew of other starters. Then head coach Kyle Shanahan
says he expects kind of a vanilla game plan from
both sides. Is that at least conducive to everyone coming
out of this week eighteen game healthy?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, And I think that you have two of the
most innovative minds and it'll be hard for them to
take the week.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Off a vanilla game plan, doesn't It.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Just feels like when they get together, there's I've watched
them call plays and seen the formations and what they do.
They like empty the tank against each other, and it's
like a one upsmanship kind of thing, Like you think
you're in innovative, try this, and that's like they pass
it back and forth. So I gotta believe they're gonna
I think they probably will try out new ideas that
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they've been toying with that they'd like to see kind
of in a game situation. So I expect vanilla is
I think it's probably the antithesis of that. I think
there's gonna be a lot of complexity just to see
what it looks like on tape, because they probably want
it like I want to try this because I want
to use this against the Eagles. I want to use
this against the Cowboys. I want to use this. You know,
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I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't necessarily need to worry about, you know, the
Rams seeing it.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Twice like I just so, I suspect both of them
probably do some pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's where I was going.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How do you toe the line between testing some new
stuff out not giving too much away when the Rams
could potentially be your opponent in that division word, I
think you could care less.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
The truth of the matter is, I see Kyle and
I his dad was the same way. They build off
of what they did the week before, and they're always
have an innovative mindset. They're never stuck, and so they're
leaving that whatever you have on tape is in the past.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Part of it is the past, don't.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I could care less whether you go study that all
you want, because all it's going to is keep you
from seeing what's going to happen to this this weekend.
I love the great innovative minds. There's probably less than
ten of them in the NFL today, and those are
two of them. And so I anyone that worries about well,
I don't want to show like, no, we're leaning in.
We're gonna show you everything, because that's We're gonna build
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off of that, right, I'm just gonna build off of
that and the idea that people get a you know,
get into because there are some teams that are very rote,
very static, and that's when you get trouble, Like, well,
I don't want to show them that because I'm gonna
show them again next week.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's not the forty nine Ers, No, not with Kyle
Shanahan calling the place absolutely not. Well, whatever happens in
the regular season finale, this forty nine Ers twenty twenty
three team has done tremendous things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think I give you a stat that just blows.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I was just going to give you one, but you
go first.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That there passes behind the line of scrimmage. There's zero
yard passes I think the league the second in the league.
Yards per pass is eight point one. There passes behind
the line of scrimmage lead the league. In the rest
of the league, running throwing the ball downfield like that,
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to me is a stat that I you could never
ever imagine.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's never happened before.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Uncharted efficiency and a.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Completely uncharted place that you know because you think about it,
what is the greatest goal of an offensive coordinator or
a head coach offensive minded head coach is to make
it as complex for the defense as possible and as
simple as possible for the offense. That's Bill Walsh's mindset.
That's what he brought into the into the game. Now
thirty years later, Kyle Shannon's taken it to it's got
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to be at zenith right. There's no way you can't
get more than zero yards passes, leading the league in
yards per attempt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
There's no there's no place to go beyond that.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
That's that is if Bill Walsh was alive today, I
guarantee he'd hand the trow towards it, kind of like
you did something that was impossible and Kyle's actually done it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So that probably leads into the stat I was going
to give you, which is, of course that the forty
nine ers first team in NFL history to have a
running back tightened and two wide receivers all over a
thousand scrimmage yards just speaks more to that efficiency. I mean,
do you have a player that impresses you most in
terms of past catchers or you know running back and
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Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well they all bring such unique but valuable and scary
things and I just don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Prepare for everybody. I think you can't. You have to pick.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I think what makes it why the efficiency is
so dramatic, is that whatever they end up trying to
stop Kyle just goes right beyond it. Like it's like,
well then what about you know? What about Kyle?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What I mean, you check? What about?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Like just there's no stopping this team Juwan like people
are just going to emerge and uh and and rock
like he said, just a minute, go to me, Like
every play has an answer. With Kyle, I felt the
same day with his dad, Mike. Every play has an answer.
You just got to find it. And if you're really
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detailed and done the work, it'll it'll emerge for you.
And I think that's that's why Kyle and Brocker such
great tandem, because Kyle gives him opportunities and it says
to him, you'll find the answer, just if you're studied
and ready and you're efficient, you'll find him.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And then Broc goes and finds him.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You had the opportunity to speak with Brock party, someone
who has gone from pick two sixty two in the
draft to now a Pro Bowl quarterback and the forty
nine Ers franchise leader in passing yards. What did the
forty nine ers see in him that everyone else missed?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, they didn't see him in for a lot of rounds.
I'll tell you that. But it was impossible.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But it's impossible because what Brock is best at is
you can't measure it. It's at least hard to really know.
And that's that ability to.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Someone told me that before the Monday night game recently.
I'm early in the season. There was it was late,
it was an a Sunday night game and I saw
someone and one of the players say is, yeah, Brock
was out this morning, midday, out in the field alone
going through the game plan as you walk through a
piece of paper and just going through it. And it
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was like that warmed my heart right because my manage
my whiteboard in my house that I wrote the whole
game plan out and every night I memorize it that
I'd go on Friday, I would close my eyes and
go through the whole thing, and it just that's the
kind of person Brock's the kind of guy that allows
for this explosion of efficiency and this explosion of an
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offensive innovative mind. I had an offensive innovative mind around me.
He's got the tip of that spear. And so it's
it's so I told him, do you know how lucky
you are? And he said, well, I'm my only place
I've ever known. But yeah, people tell me this is really,
you know, a pretty fortunate spot to be. And as
a quarterback, to be great, you need a lot of
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help and that's never going to change. And to get
a lot of help makes it helps you be great.
But being great is not easy, and what Brock's doing
is not easy. And I tip my cap to him.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So this was actually a fan submitted question, but we'll
get there right now. Who do you wish you could
throw passes to on the current forty nine ers roster?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Come on, I mean, like, it's really And that's what
Kyle does. He tries to get people in space and
get some unique areas and you just want to give
it to any of them with room to run. Just
let them be the great athletes that they are. And
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what I loved about this, I don't need to choose
somebody because the truth is they are actually cheering for
each other. Very rarely in professional sports do you get
a group of all stars together and they actually play selflessly.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Very rare.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
The Warriors historically have done this in the past when
they were champions. You know, Katie shows up. It's like,
we're selfless, we play, don't worry about against the ball
and people talk about it, but they don't actually do it.
This team does it. So to me, who I'd want
to throw the ball to is it doesn't matter, give
it to somebody because the truth is there, go block
for that guy there there. They love that that guy
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is the superstar of the week. You don't feel the
jealousy and the typical stuff that happens in every other
football team by the way that kind of evolves into
losing and like just don't see it. And I think
that's what's beautiful about this team is you can see
the joy they have for each other's success. Think about
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the MVP conversation a couple weeks ago, and their box is, well, no,
I think Christians.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Should get it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, no, Trent, Trent should get it, Like it was
just like.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That doesn't that doesn't happen like you got to realize
that this is a this is a moment in time
with a unique group of people that you just have
to relish them being together and hopefully they can stay
together as long as possible.
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as a former MVP, what's your opinion of the forty
nine ers MVP candidates Brock Perty and Christian McCaffrey from
this season.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That they're very deserving because.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
The the MVP people always say, well, there's who's the
most valuable and the most important are the most The
award goes to the most influential in some ways like
who's influenced the team, Who's who's led the team, you know,
and so both Christian, I would love to see a
running back win it.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It would be super cool and non QB.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, just I think that needs to happen at some point.
This might be the year. But the idea that brock
from his history and who he is and how he's
done it, it's a movie. It's a movie script that
we need to We need to make the movie.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Because and then to have him think about it, just
talking to him a minute ago, he's thinking about it
is Yeah, you know, it's great.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But you know, if it great, if it does happen,
it's great. It doesn't happen, it's fine. I'm the same guy,
and I just think.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There's a super there. There's a superpower in that perspective.
And uh so forget about MVP. This team's gonna be
tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I like that answer.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Tough to beat. And that's who you really like. The
MVPs calm and go, even division titles come and go.
But in the end, you want to be a team
that's just really really really hard to beat. And so
anyone who wants to come beat this football team in.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The playoffs, good luck.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What was your favorite out ding for the forty nine
ers during this regular season run?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Outing which game was the most impressive, probably Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Probably just because the emotion of it all and people
maybe because it's.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Track yea, so maybe that's why. But I think it
was a signal to the whole league. And that's why
I think so many times you need to speak to
the league because that nine times out of ten you're
winning football games coming out of the locker room because
of the perception like, oh my gosh, these guys are
great and they're like, oh, I don't know, you know
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or not. And so the biggest statement they made all
year long, I think was at home against Dallas when
they just took them and rolled them and then ran
them out the.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Out of the building.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
That that's when everyone's like, oh my gosh, this team
watch out.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think a lot of people would agree with you.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And now they've had some look, they had tough times
come that was fine, and people started to wonder, is
that really real? And then they answered back it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes, it's This one is from Sean. Who was your
favorite teammate?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Well, I mean Brent Jones, my roommate for fifteen years.
I mean he took care of me, man, he was honestly,
I owe him my life. He like carried me half
the time emotionally. You know, I owe him a great debt.
I talked to him recently and reminded of how much
I owe him for putting up with me all those years,
and and just how much he supported me. I needed it,
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and so I owe him a great debt. Harris Barton
was of my teammate and friend I lived with for
many years. And Ronnie Lott, I mean, he's the guy
when I first joined the team. You're talking about, Joe Montana,
Ronnie Lot, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice like this, this is
a pretty good crew. And now I will tell you
Jerry Rice and I have done a lot of philanthropy
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work since we retired, and we're better friends than we've
ever been even today.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So it's really it's super cool.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Jerry and I really built a really cool friendship.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You should probably join him on the field. Pregame the.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Big helmet would my neck can't support it, you know,
And then when he goes running down the it runs
the hundred, I'm afraid I'd beat him, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Don't want to happen. I don't want I mean, that
would be that would just be not right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What's your forty time.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Now, I don't know. We'd have to go. Let's go
test it out. I could still, I can still run something.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I like that. We I mean, I think now we
need a Jerry Rice Steve Young.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Guarantee it will not happen.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right. So Matt Sanchez wants to know if you
could take one talent from your generation and add them
to one of your Super Bowl winning teams, who would
it be outside your team?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Wait, so ask me again, talent.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
From outside of your team during your generation a player,
and then add it to one of the super Bowl
winning teams you were.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
A part of.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, I did ESPN work for a lot of
years with Randy Moss, and I got to know him
really well and always appreciate his athleticism and his uniqueness,
and then getting to know him and really kind of
building a friendship.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
He's a guy that would have really flourished.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, there's a lot of guys that we flourished here,
but he had unique talents that you know, between John
Taylor and Jerry Rice, if you had a Randy Massa,
you have to you have to out loss.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This one's from Nana.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
When you look back on your career, is there a
favorite play that stands out above the rest?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know, the run against the Minnesota is always embarrassing
a little bit. It was like, oh my gosh, stop,
like do the job, don't run around like a mad mass.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
This is just the tumbling into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'm not going to choose that one, even though it's
probably the most famous. I think I think the throat
to Tarrell uh with the against the Packers and the playoffs,
just because of the dramatic moment and then how hard
the moment was like to actually throw it into the
end zone when it's the last play of the game,
you have no chance and you know the odds are
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like zero, and to pull off something that actually was
not a miracle. It wasn't like a you know, a
ball that was up in the air and bat it
around like it was a real play that worked, U
and I love that, you know, the play in the
huddle actually worked to win the game.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Last one, this one's from Danielle. If you could hand
off one piece of advice to this twenty twenty three
team as they get ready for the playoffs, what would
it be.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I think what we've already talked about is whatever the
rigor of your preparation that's gotten you here these weeks off,
go through it, even though you know you're not going
to play. Do not rest the mental game so that
you can be sharp when because the first divisional game,
and if you've, if you've kind of been mentally quiet
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for a couple of weeks and then all of a sudden,
something happens, you get punched in the face. Now you're
down in their division game. You're like, what's happening, and
you're just emotionally not ready. It happened to us, you guts,
the Minnesota Vikings when we were the number one seed.
They came into town and Anthony Carter went crazy and
we just weren't. We didn't respond. And I think that's
the number one thing you got to avoid, is that
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divisional game. All of a sudden, this is not being
ready to play. Just make sure emotionally, and I'm sure
they will to make every kind of preparation wise.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Words from one of the greats, Well, thank you so
much for your time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Thank you very much, nice to be with you.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Faithful to be featured in our next episode. Make sure
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Speaker 3 (25:43):
Thanks so much,
What's up, faithful, Welcome to the forty nine Ers. You've
got Mail Podcasts presented by Delta Dental. I'm Lindsay Plaris,
and we've got a very special guest in studio today,
three times Super Bowl champ Hall of Fame quarterback. The
list could go on. Broadcaster, mister Steve Young, Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Good to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So, Steve, you are a part You were a part
of three Super Bowl teams, a bunch of great games,
and now you've remained a Bay Area resident and you
get to watch this twenty twenty three to forty nine
Ers team clinch the number one seed in the NFC
for the tenth time in franchise history.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How much fun are you having watching this team?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's the fun is in the memories, like, oh, I
remember when it felt like that, I remember that moment
when we clinched, or I remember when we got the
bye week, I remember when you know, it was those
kinds of things because they're familiar and uh and the
joy watching you know, Debo and Trent and the Gang,
George watch the Cardinals come and beat the Eagles and
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right in front of it, like that reminds me of
those moments, and so I love it for these guys,
and I also love it that it reminds me of
such kind of cool memories for myself.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have there been any standout games this season that have
really brought you back to one of your playing day seasons?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think when they went to Philadelphia, because when we
had played Dallas in the regular season, because we knew,
we thought that you'd end up seeing each other in
this in the championship game. They had seen Philadelphia in
the championship game. So those games are the markers for
how the season's going, everyone's watching, and so I'm familiar
with those kinds of games, you know, the big Monday
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night games.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The ones against the Ravens on Christmas.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Like, there's these moments that Candlestick used to I used
to think that that old stadium, it would it would move,
you know, it would people were in there, and it
would and I think it probably did move a little bit,
because I don't have I don't know how stable it
really was, but it was like there was an emotion
and there was always these big games and they felt
big and they and the emotion that was in the
stadium and the people that were there they got to
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know each other, they sat next to each other through generation,
and it's like, I'm starting to feel that here, which
is super cool.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We hear a lot of this current team, and really
every team talk about this one and o season and
that every game matters. But is it when you look
back on your career that you look at those games
that some of them were a little bit bigger than others.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah. I think that we were in a situation.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I started in eighty seven and we were in the
number one seed for eight of nine years. So like
it became you know, the team that this is the
team this year is what we felt like we were
doing every year, and so the big games were everywhere
every week.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know, this is never.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And so I think that's how I bet you the
guys that played this season, I think they look back
on the year, what was the big games?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Are?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Like, Man, every game felt like, you know, everyone's super
Bowl against the big team, And so I think that
that's who the forty nine ers are today and that's
who we felt like we were back in the day.
Is that like we were everyone's super Bowl and we're
good with that and we actually like and relish that role.
And I think that's what I'm very familiar with this
football team this season, is that feels very familiar about
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how they look at the world, who they are, and
I love that about them.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That number one seed became very familiar for the teams
that you were a part of, but it is in
fact a very rare and big accomplishment for teams in general.
How rare is it to clinch that number one seed
in week seventeen, have Week eighteen be low stakes, and
then have that first round by so.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's happened, we have I don't. I felt like it
happened every year, but I know that it didn't. But
it did. I know it happened a few times.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And it was always a complex situation because as football players,
you love some rest. It's been a long year, and
getting a break mentally, if not physically for sure, but
mentally too is a beautiful thing. But it also has
a double edged sword because in some ways football is
an emotional game, and if you're not emotionally ready, if
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you're not you know, up to the kind of that
white hot competitive feeling, you aren't going to play as well.
So and you get that from just having it come
every week, and so there's we loved those years when
we clinched early. And I remember one year the Giants
needed us to win the last game. I want to
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say it was we were playing the Vikings and we
didn't win, but we didn't No one played really, you know.
And that was the famous Phil Simms when he said.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
The forty nine ers laid down like dogs, and like
Ronnie Lott remembered that and went after him the next year.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
But those are the situations that you love to be
and you love to be able to decide for yourself.
You've earned the right to decide for your self what
you want to do and how you want to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And that's a fun spot to be.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
In the quarterback position obviously probably the toughest position in football.
In order to stay mentally sharp, how do you do
that in a twenty one day span.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's real discipline to it.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You you have to be willing to sacrifice kind of
everything in your off time every.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Week, and that discipline is hard.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
You know, Like human beings, we love a break, like hey,
you know, I need to take a break, And there
is no break in great football in the NFL. If
you want to play great football every week. There's a
discipline to how you get the game plan on Tuesday,
hopefully afternoon, when the coaches have it fresh, maybe as
late as Tuesday night, you start memorizing it. Wednesday goes
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into the preparation. Thursday, Friday and the goal line short yardage,
and Saturday is the day to kind of put it
all together. If you don't hold yourself accountable to the
data of the game plan every week, the motion, the blitz,
the tendencies, then you're you're not going to play as well.
And I don't care how good you really think you are.
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Owning the data every week is the secret. Anyone who's
watched Tom Brady play or Peyton Manning play recently recent
history knows that that's that's the secret. I watched Joe
do that. I remember this funny story when I first
joined the team and h and uh, you know, Bill
WALTSH would come in and he's doing the installations on
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Wednesday morning and we just got in the books just
I'm fifteen minutes earlier, and I was leafing through it
trying to see what's going on. And Bill would ask
a question, and who what do we do here? And
Joe would always like, well, you know, that's what we
do and.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm like, yeah, the just got the book and uh.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And after that happened a couple of times, I was
talking to Mike Holmgren, the offensive coordinate.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It's like, how does he do that?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
He goes I fax it to him Tuesday night and
I was like, well, then, in fact it to me.
And that became, you know, watching Joe prepare and the
data and how he you know, owned that data was
what I learned to do the same. Like that was
the secret power in quarterbacking. And the guys that are
willing to go through the discipline of doing that, going
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to school every Tuesday through Saturday is the is the key.
And that's most great players that I've known through the
years are not willing to do that. They'll do some
of it, but they will not stay the course every
week all week to make sure that they own the data.
And those are the guys that are the guys that
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do that, are the guys that are MVPs and.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Pro Bowls and Super Bowls. That's just that's just the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And I tell Lizzie, I tell other players other young quarterbacks,
if you want to be great, this is how you
do it, And I'd say that most don't listen because
it's hard, especially when you're one of the great athletes
that ever lived. Well, what do you mean I'm going
to get a a minus on the test anyway? I
don't want to go through that all that rigor, you know.
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And so I was like, no, you got to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
And for the rest of the players on the team,
just the forty nine ers injury list is so long
that I don't really have the luxury of resting everybody
at this point in the season. What's the wear and
tear on your body.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Everyone's beat down.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
But I think not just physically again, I tell you
about emotionally. People don't realize how the emotional strain on
the body and on the mental strain, and a lot of.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Times that's more important to take the rest, especially for
some guys.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
But if I said, if you're hurt and you need
the rest, man, there's nothing better than getting completely healthy.
Nothing beats you can be take six weeks off to
get right, because if you're right, you're going to play better.
But if you're healthy, man, I want to play a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
So the Rams are taking a very similar approach to
the forty nine ers, also resting Matt Stafford along with
a slew of other starters. Then head coach Kyle Shanahan
says he expects kind of a vanilla game plan from
both sides. Is that at least conducive to everyone coming
out of this week eighteen game healthy?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, And I think that you have two of the
most innovative minds and it'll be hard for them to
take the week.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Off a vanilla game plan, doesn't It.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Just feels like when they get together, there's I've watched
them call plays and seen the formations and what they do.
They like empty the tank against each other, and it's
like a one upsmanship kind of thing, Like you think
you're in innovative, try this, and that's like they pass
it back and forth. So I gotta believe they're gonna
I think they probably will try out new ideas that
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they've been toying with that they'd like to see kind
of in a game situation. So I expect vanilla is
I think it's probably the antithesis of that. I think
there's gonna be a lot of complexity just to see
what it looks like on tape, because they probably want
it like I want to try this because I want
to use this against the Eagles. I want to use
this against the Cowboys. I want to use this. You know,
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I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I don't necessarily need to worry about, you know, the
Rams seeing it.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Twice like I just so, I suspect both of them
probably do some pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's where I was going.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How do you toe the line between testing some new
stuff out not giving too much away when the Rams
could potentially be your opponent in that division word, I
think you could care less.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
The truth of the matter is, I see Kyle and
I his dad was the same way. They build off
of what they did the week before, and they're always
have an innovative mindset. They're never stuck, and so they're
leaving that whatever you have on tape is in the past.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Part of it is the past, don't.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I could care less whether you go study that all
you want, because all it's going to is keep you
from seeing what's going to happen to this this weekend.
I love the great innovative minds. There's probably less than
ten of them in the NFL today, and those are
two of them. And so I anyone that worries about well,
I don't want to show like, no, we're leaning in.
We're gonna show you everything, because that's We're gonna build
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off of that, right, I'm just gonna build off of
that and the idea that people get a you know,
get into because there are some teams that are very rote,
very static, and that's when you get trouble, Like, well,
I don't want to show them that because I'm gonna
show them again next week.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's not the forty nine Ers, No, not with Kyle
Shanahan calling the place absolutely not. Well, whatever happens in
the regular season finale, this forty nine Ers twenty twenty
three team has done tremendous things.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think I give you a stat that just blows.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I was just going to give you one, but you
go first.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That there passes behind the line of scrimmage. There's zero
yard passes I think the league the second in the league.
Yards per pass is eight point one. There passes behind
the line of scrimmage lead the league. In the rest
of the league, running throwing the ball downfield like that,
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to me is a stat that I you could never
ever imagine.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
It's never happened before.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Uncharted efficiency and a.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Completely uncharted place that you know because you think about it,
what is the greatest goal of an offensive coordinator or
a head coach offensive minded head coach is to make
it as complex for the defense as possible and as
simple as possible for the offense. That's Bill Walsh's mindset.
That's what he brought into the into the game. Now
thirty years later, Kyle Shannon's taken it to it's got
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to be at zenith right. There's no way you can't
get more than zero yards passes, leading the league in
yards per attempt.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
There's no there's no place to go beyond that.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
That's that is if Bill Walsh was alive today, I
guarantee he'd hand the trow towards it, kind of like
you did something that was impossible and Kyle's actually done it.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So that probably leads into the stat I was going
to give you, which is, of course that the forty
nine ers first team in NFL history to have a
running back tightened and two wide receivers all over a
thousand scrimmage yards just speaks more to that efficiency. I mean,
do you have a player that impresses you most in
terms of past catchers or you know running back and
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Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well they all bring such unique but valuable and scary
things and I just don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Prepare for everybody. I think you can't. You have to pick.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I think what makes it why the efficiency is
so dramatic, is that whatever they end up trying to
stop Kyle just goes right beyond it. Like it's like,
well then what about you know? What about Kyle?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What I mean, you check? What about?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Like just there's no stopping this team Juwan like people
are just going to emerge and uh and and rock
like he said, just a minute, go to me, Like
every play has an answer. With Kyle, I felt the
same day with his dad, Mike. Every play has an answer.
You just got to find it. And if you're really
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detailed and done the work, it'll it'll emerge for you.
And I think that's that's why Kyle and Brocker such
great tandem, because Kyle gives him opportunities and it says
to him, you'll find the answer, just if you're studied
and ready and you're efficient, you'll find him.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
And then Broc goes and finds him.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
You had the opportunity to speak with Brock party, someone
who has gone from pick two sixty two in the
draft to now a Pro Bowl quarterback and the forty
nine Ers franchise leader in passing yards. What did the
forty nine ers see in him that everyone else missed?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, they didn't see him in for a lot of rounds.
I'll tell you that. But it was impossible.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But it's impossible because what Brock is best at is
you can't measure it. It's at least hard to really know.
And that's that ability to.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Someone told me that before the Monday night game recently.
I'm early in the season. There was it was late,
it was an a Sunday night game and I saw
someone and one of the players say is, yeah, Brock
was out this morning, midday, out in the field alone
going through the game plan as you walk through a
piece of paper and just going through it. And it
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was like that warmed my heart right because my manage
my whiteboard in my house that I wrote the whole
game plan out and every night I memorize it that
I'd go on Friday, I would close my eyes and
go through the whole thing, and it just that's the
kind of person Brock's the kind of guy that allows
for this explosion of efficiency and this explosion of an
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offensive innovative mind. I had an offensive innovative mind around me.
He's got the tip of that spear. And so it's
it's so I told him, do you know how lucky
you are? And he said, well, I'm my only place
I've ever known. But yeah, people tell me this is really,
you know, a pretty fortunate spot to be. And as
a quarterback, to be great, you need a lot of
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help and that's never going to change. And to get
a lot of help makes it helps you be great.
But being great is not easy, and what Brock's doing
is not easy. And I tip my cap to him.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
So this was actually a fan submitted question, but we'll
get there right now. Who do you wish you could
throw passes to on the current forty nine ers roster?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Come on, I mean, like, it's really And that's what
Kyle does. He tries to get people in space and
get some unique areas and you just want to give
it to any of them with room to run. Just
let them be the great athletes that they are. And
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what I loved about this, I don't need to choose
somebody because the truth is they are actually cheering for
each other. Very rarely in professional sports do you get
a group of all stars together and they actually play selflessly.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Very rare.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
The Warriors historically have done this in the past when
they were champions. You know, Katie shows up. It's like,
we're selfless, we play, don't worry about against the ball
and people talk about it, but they don't actually do it.
This team does it. So to me, who I'd want
to throw the ball to is it doesn't matter, give
it to somebody because the truth is there, go block
for that guy there there. They love that that guy
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is the superstar of the week. You don't feel the
jealousy and the typical stuff that happens in every other
football team by the way that kind of evolves into
losing and like just don't see it. And I think
that's what's beautiful about this team is you can see
the joy they have for each other's success. Think about
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the MVP conversation a couple weeks ago, and their box is, well, no,
I think Christians.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Should get it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, no, Trent, Trent should get it, Like it was
just like.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That doesn't that doesn't happen like you got to realize
that this is a this is a moment in time
with a unique group of people that you just have
to relish them being together and hopefully they can stay
together as long as possible.
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as a former MVP, what's your opinion of the forty
nine ers MVP candidates Brock Perty and Christian McCaffrey from
this season.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That they're very deserving because.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
The the MVP people always say, well, there's who's the
most valuable and the most important are the most The
award goes to the most influential in some ways like
who's influenced the team, Who's who's led the team, you know,
and so both Christian, I would love to see a
running back win it.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It would be super cool and non QB.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, just I think that needs to happen at some point.
This might be the year. But the idea that brock
from his history and who he is and how he's
done it, it's a movie. It's a movie script that
we need to We need to make the movie.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Because and then to have him think about it, just
talking to him a minute ago, he's thinking about it
is Yeah, you know, it's great.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
But you know, if it great, if it does happen,
it's great. It doesn't happen, it's fine. I'm the same guy,
and I just think.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
There's a super there. There's a superpower in that perspective.
And uh so forget about MVP. This team's gonna be
tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I like that answer.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Tough to beat. And that's who you really like. The
MVPs calm and go, even division titles come and go.
But in the end, you want to be a team
that's just really really really hard to beat. And so
anyone who wants to come beat this football team in.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The playoffs, good luck.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What was your favorite out ding for the forty nine
ers during this regular season run?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Outing which game was the most impressive, probably Dallas.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Probably just because the emotion of it all and people
maybe because it's.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Track yea, so maybe that's why. But I think it
was a signal to the whole league. And that's why
I think so many times you need to speak to
the league because that nine times out of ten you're
winning football games coming out of the locker room because
of the perception like, oh my gosh, these guys are
great and they're like, oh, I don't know, you know
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or not. And so the biggest statement they made all
year long, I think was at home against Dallas when
they just took them and rolled them and then ran
them out the.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Out of the building.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
That that's when everyone's like, oh my gosh, this team
watch out.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I think a lot of people would agree with you.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
And now they've had some look, they had tough times
come that was fine, and people started to wonder, is
that really real? And then they answered back it's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes, it's This one is from Sean. Who was your
favorite teammate?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Well, I mean Brent Jones, my roommate for fifteen years.
I mean he took care of me, man, he was honestly,
I owe him my life. He like carried me half
the time emotionally. You know, I owe him a great debt.
I talked to him recently and reminded of how much
I owe him for putting up with me all those years,
and and just how much he supported me. I needed it,
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and so I owe him a great debt. Harris Barton
was of my teammate and friend I lived with for
many years. And Ronnie Lott, I mean, he's the guy
when I first joined the team. You're talking about, Joe Montana,
Ronnie Lot, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice like this, this is
a pretty good crew. And now I will tell you
Jerry Rice and I have done a lot of philanthropy
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work since we retired, and we're better friends than we've
ever been even today.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So it's really it's super cool.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Jerry and I really built a really cool friendship.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You should probably join him on the field. Pregame the.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Big helmet would my neck can't support it, you know,
And then when he goes running down the it runs
the hundred, I'm afraid I'd beat him, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Don't want to happen. I don't want I mean, that
would be that would just be not right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
What's your forty time.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Now, I don't know. We'd have to go. Let's go
test it out. I could still, I can still run something.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I like that. We I mean, I think now we
need a Jerry Rice Steve Young.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Guarantee it will not happen.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
All right. So Matt Sanchez wants to know if you
could take one talent from your generation and add them
to one of your Super Bowl winning teams, who would
it be outside your team?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Wait, so ask me again, talent.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
From outside of your team during your generation a player,
and then add it to one of the super Bowl
winning teams you were.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
A part of.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, I did ESPN work for a lot of
years with Randy Moss, and I got to know him
really well and always appreciate his athleticism and his uniqueness,
and then getting to know him and really kind of
building a friendship.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
He's a guy that would have really flourished.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, there's a lot of guys that we flourished here,
but he had unique talents that you know, between John
Taylor and Jerry Rice, if you had a Randy Massa,
you have to you have to out loss.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This one's from Nana.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
When you look back on your career, is there a
favorite play that stands out above the rest?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know, the run against the Minnesota is always embarrassing
a little bit. It was like, oh my gosh, stop,
like do the job, don't run around like a mad mass.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
This is just the tumbling into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So I don't, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'm not going to choose that one, even though it's
probably the most famous. I think I think the throat
to Tarrell uh with the against the Packers and the playoffs,
just because of the dramatic moment and then how hard
the moment was like to actually throw it into the
end zone when it's the last play of the game,
you have no chance and you know the odds are
(24:05):
like zero, and to pull off something that actually was
not a miracle. It wasn't like a you know, a
ball that was up in the air and bat it
around like it was a real play that worked, U
and I love that, you know, the play in the
huddle actually worked to win the game.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So that was cool.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Last one, this one's from Danielle. If you could hand
off one piece of advice to this twenty twenty three
team as they get ready for the playoffs, what would
it be.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I think what we've already talked about is whatever the
rigor of your preparation that's gotten you here these weeks off,
go through it, even though you know you're not going
to play. Do not rest the mental game so that
you can be sharp when because the first divisional game,
and if you've, if you've kind of been mentally quiet
(24:54):
for a couple of weeks and then all of a sudden,
something happens, you get punched in the face. Now you're
down in their division game. You're like, what's happening, and
you're just emotionally not ready. It happened to us, you guts,
the Minnesota Vikings when we were the number one seed.
They came into town and Anthony Carter went crazy and
we just weren't. We didn't respond. And I think that's
the number one thing you got to avoid, is that
(25:15):
divisional game. All of a sudden, this is not being
ready to play. Just make sure emotionally, and I'm sure
they will to make every kind of preparation wise.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Words from one of the greats, Well, thank you so
much for your time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Thank you very much, nice to be with you.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Faithful to be featured in our next episode. Make sure
to submit your questions to forty nine ers dot com
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Speaker 3 (25:43):
Thanks so much,
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