July 24, 2025 • 45 mins
Ep. 726 - Cardinals left guard Evan Brown joined Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley at training camp for a fun, football-filled conversation. He broke down the offense’s high ceiling and how the team plans to build on its already bruising run game. Brown also praised the defensive line and opened up about the mental grind that comes with being an O-lineman. Calvisi and Wolf also touched on Mack Wilson Sr.'s new role in the defense, the buzz around a bulked-up Marvin Harrison Jr., and why 18-year veteran Calais Campbell continues to be a valued presence both on the field and in the locker room.
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Here's Paul CALVICI.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
The Fjord.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You smell that, wolf No, it's the smell of NFL
training camp in the air, blocking sleds, orange gatorade, sweaty
three hundred pounders. Not to mention the anxiety of undrafted rookies.
But you know what else I really love about this
time of year?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, what's that when Miles.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Garrett can say with a straight face earlier today and
I do quote I expect to get to the Super Bowl,
a reminder of the all pro plays for the Browns. Yeah,
a three win team with a four quarterback competition right now,
but wolf Hope is eternal in July. And we love that,
no doubt do we not. Here are the Big Red
Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan
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Ford soon to feature starting left guard Evan Brown, Paul
Calvic here, Ron Wolfley.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
There, I think Pauli, Miles Garrett is probably trying to
set the table right now for future endeavors. Let's put
it that Way's my take on that. One man here,
it is day two of training camp. Can you feel it, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I can definitely feel it. You can see it in
some of the faces of the rookies. I was like
to look around, especially the undrafted guys. You know, the
boxers are bunging out there, and then you have your
Buddha Bakers and uh you know all as well, and
they're pacing themselves. But wolf as someone who came into
week one day to a training camp here at State
Farm Stadium, and I know earlier on the air for
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four hours you were fanning the flames of the QB controversy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was not well stop QB of the d Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We got an answer after practice. Yeah, Mac Wilson Sr.
Come on down. Mac is the mic. That's what he
told the media. He will be calling the defense and
replace Kaiser White this season.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So, Paulie, would you say that is your biggest takeaway
right now? Love training camp? What you were looking at,
the biggest question going it was your biggest question going in. Yeah,
you know what, I don't think that's a finished product.
It's just a guess right now. I would imagine they're
going to open that competition up a little bit, especially
if Mac is having issues with it. I'm not saying
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he will have issues with that, but I don't think
we've heard the last at the Green Dot. That's number one.
But my biggest takeaway right now as far as training
camp goes, is literally the defensive line. The defensive line
has got my attention, Pauli. We've talked an awful lot
about it all off season, of course, talking about how
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the Arizona Cardinals have improved their defensive line, but to
actually see these guys out on the field with their
jerseys on. They are some units. This is really really
encouraging to me. Dalvin Tomlinson looks like the quintessential noseguard
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that every defensive coordinator won on his defense. He is
absolutely massive. Paul I said this on the air earlier.
This is a guy. He's a dumpster with eyebrows right now.
He's a square. He's a walking, talking square. I don't
think I've ever seen a dude from behind who looks
more like a square than Dalvin Tomlin says. So they
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look going to be playing over the center.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
They listed him at three twenty five bom sort of
like Larry Fascherroald with his golf handicap. I think he's
sandbagging on that one.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He could be. He's at least three thirty five. I'm
just telling you right now. Come on, if somebody walked
up to me and said, man, Dumbin's three fitty, I
believe it.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's why two months ago on this show, Isaiah Adams
said when I asked him about O line D line drill, which,
by the way, by our forecast, will be Monday, TikTok yes.
Isaiah Adams said, Yeah, it's hard not to look across
at the defensive lineman and notice big Dalvin Thomlinson and
I'm gonna have to take him on in a bull
rush once agains extremely real full pads, full contact, full speed.
But right, well, if you look over there, and I
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mean it's like extreme makeover.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
We made this comment in mini camp, like this should
be on like HGTV. You got Kaleia standing next to Dalvin.
You got Daris Robinson new and improved. Right, there's LJ.
Collier back, soon to be joined by Walter Nole in
the third. You hope by the start of the regular
season Justin Jones is back. Oh, was something to prove
Dante Stills was their most reliable defensive lineman a year ago.
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All of a sudden, that is a serious area of depth.
Even though the other news headline Walter Nole in the
third calf injury. Yeah, got to quote miss some time.
According to Jonathan Aann and Balall, Nichols still dealing with
the neck injury. But unlike last couple of years, they
can afford some early season injuries because they have the depth.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yes, they do bully and once again, how they're going
to use these defensive linemen in this defensive line room.
It's gonna be fascinating early in the season to watch it.
Not talking preseason because they're not gonna tip their hand,
but how they're actually gonna do it week one, week two,
week three. Who's gonna get the reps and what situation
they're gonna get the reps. That's going to be very
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very interesting. Kaleis Campbell, to me, he looks exactly like
a rectangle with a helmet on, and you've got Dalvin
Tomlinson who looks like the square Paul it is. It
is unbelievable because I don't I could not take my eyes.
I had the box out, of course, and we were
broadcasting today, had the box out looking at Delvin Tomlinson,
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knowing I couldn't say anything about Delvin Tomlinson until we
could actually say something about him, until practice actually started,
the open part of practice, I could not. I am
so stunned at how big he truly is the quintessential
nose tackle if you ask me.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I was telling Craig ReLU because I always coach up gree,
I was saying, you know, I really wish that the
Cardinals would start with the division game, because I'd love
to bust out this new defensive front on a division rival. Hey, Seattle,
how's this taste?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
In this case, New Orleans is going to find out. Okay,
it might find out the hard way Week one. We'll see.
But once again, Cardinal's underway in camp. And here's Jonathan
Gannon to start things off talking about the sense of urgency.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
The NFL mindset is, there's always a sense of urgency
everything like that. I think the players are really confident
where who's sitting next to them, that if we play
our brand of ball, we can win some games, you
know what I mean. So, and I don't think they
didn't feel that last year or the year before, but
it's a heightened sense of awareness. We're in year three
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now and we got what we need.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
What's interesting is to see the defense be much more
competitive against the offense versus the last couple of years.
We got a taste of it in mini camp. You
got a taste of it so far in eleven on eleven.
There's just more swag in the defense. Amazing when you
up the talent level and all of a sudden, the
competition level goes up. And now hopefully that's the rising
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tide the list both sides of the wall.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm with you on that, PAULI. Once again, in the
defense there is a lot more swag, and I think
it's because of upfront. It starts upfront with these guys.
That was my biggest takeaway from being out there watching
practice today was just the defensive line and how good
that defensive line room looks right now. My second takeaway,
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first couple of days of practice here, and this was
the first practice that I actually saw here today. Marvin
Harrison Junior. He was number two, so it was the
massive defensive line number one. And then it was just
how much better Marvin Harrison Junior looks in a UNI
right now? Are you kidding me? He looked buffed.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And you know what, we're gonna hear from Marvin a
little bit later, We're gonna hear from Trey McBrien on
Marvin Harrison Junior. In fact, we're gonna drill a little
deeper into Marvin Harrison Junior a little bit later. But
getting back to the defense for just a moment, think
about this three down linemen, Josh Sweat, Zavin Collins, you're
outside linebackers for example, Mac Wilson Seniors or Mike Backer
either or there is a will linebacker, whether it's a
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Cody Simon Owen Papo who I think is a guy
who's gonna make a push. Or if there's just a
single linebacker inside backer, and all of a sudden, you
go with five DB's. Are the Cardinals not? We have
to go with five DB's two outside corners Garrett Williams
and then Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker or maybe Rabbit
gets a roll. There's a lot of different sort of
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you know, personnel groups that Nick Rolis can devise and
mess with this year.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
There's no doubt about it, Bullie, We're gonna see a
lot of different looks from the Arizona Cardinals. Defensively. They're
doing stuff right now that is really cutting edge to me.
When you talk about taking Buddha Baker and the entire
secondary watching to see if Buddha actually blitzes based on
what Boodha is being told to do, based on the
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look that he has, does he actually blitz If he does,
it changes your assignment in the secondary. I gotta tell you, Paul,
this to me is groundbreaking stuff. To me, again, it's
just different. It's like a hot read almost for a
quarterback offensively who suddenly reads the defense, sees the hot
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and throws the hot gets the ball out quickly. You're
telling me they're doing the exact same thing on the
defensive side of the ball. That's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Jonathan GaNNT we spoke about the injuries here. He as
the head coach giving the official injury update day one.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Billial won't be out there coming back from the next still,
BJ won't be out there coming back from the knee.
And a new one that popped up was Walter hurt
his calf training, so he's going to miss some time.
And all three of them are doing everything they can
to get back on the field. You know, they're all different,
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but he's going to miss some time there.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You go very into practice today, which ended a few
minutes early after there was a collision between teammates JJ
Russell and JJ Russell and the safety, rookie safety Keaton Crawford.
Russell was carted off as being evaluated for head and
neck injury. That's according to the team. He was alert
on the field, had movement in all his extremities, but
he was he's been taken to a local hospital for
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further testing and continued evaluation. So that was an occurrence
at the end of camp and then they're going to
be back at it today and then once again tracking
for these days. It's day five of training camp when
you can have full pats.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, and of course what he said about Walter Nolan
caught our attention. I'm sure it caught your attention as well.
You've got Blone Nichols, who's coming back from a neck
bj Ojelari of course, who's coming back from that knee.
Walter Nolan the third going down with a calf injury.
That probably got your attention the way it got my attention.
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Why because of what we saw with Darius Robinson last year.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No doubt about him. Now are there similarities? We have
no idea. We do know. Kaleis Campbell to the media said,
you know what, Walter, take all the time you need,
make sure you are one hundred percent right. This is
earlier this afternoon and saying, you know what, we know
what you can do, we know what you're capable of.
And so with that in mind, once again you have
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azycardstravel dot com. All right, well, ten years in the
NFL is a fullback deep down, though we know you
really wanted to be an offensive lineman. Next best thing
we get to visit with a starting offensive lineman. Evan
Brown is next. I mean, you can't cram a vertical
right unless you can come off the ball. We'll talk
to Evan Brown. Coming up next. It is The Big
(12:52):
Red Rage Live from Cardinals Camp, all presented by Santan
Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
We are Santan Ford, Evans taking my crown.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
It's annoying. He's super strong. He's pissing me off. Honestly,
hope he sees it, but nah, he's super strong, So
it's fun to have a guy in there. And Paris
is also he's so long, but he's also stupid strong,
makes no sense.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
He plays smart and he's actually super athletic. Like he's
the only other offensive lineman that I've been around that
I feel like compete with me, like we run, jump,
pull somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You see him.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
He's not built like a Bugelow SpongeBob, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like he's just built like a block.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Hey, that's a heck of a scouter report right there.
And you know what, that's just evidence as to why
we booked our debut interview here our Cards Camp twenty
twenty five kickoff show, the Big Red, Rage and Wolf.
Some people will say we're not even really talking football
until we're talking football with an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Interior offensive line aka the blood Sport.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Evan Brown is our guest. So Evan, first off, there's
the little banter from the old line. You're not gonna
get fined for this media interview, are you? I know
you guys are with your fine structure at times.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
You know that's a great question that one will be
handed down to to Froe and Beach, but we will
We'll see how they they rule on it. But you know,
maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Evan. We were visiting, of course before this broadcast, and
you were talking about the fact that this is your eight,
your eight for you right now, just your NFL career
going into your ear eight. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Yeah, man, No, I feel feel good. I feel like
I'm coming into the year, you know, speaking on on
just just me personally best best I've no, maybe not
felt you know, you got you got as time builds
up on You're gonna have those, but like best my
body's felt like physically and and just just how I'm
feeling coming.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
To the air.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Man.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
I'm excited for the year and excited for the team
we've have, so you know, it's been a been a
great run and excited to keep it going.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
How long does it take you to feel normal again?
You were one of three offensive players who started every
single game last year. What do you feel like at
the end of a seventeen game season.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Yeah, definitely not great bodies bodies at that point, you know,
pretty beat up, but it's kind of you know, later
on in the season you get into a little bit
of a groove on learning the best things that you
can do to recover your body, to just get it
feeling better for the game today, that next week and
you know, first month after is kind of just taking
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it off, relaxing a couple you know, good flushes of
the body, getting some sweating, but really just just relax
and letting the body, you know, do its thing. The
body's an incredible device that that is able to heal
itself over time. And yeah, you know, you start getting
into February feeling good again. Obviously, you know goal this
year's go into the playoffs and do that and be
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playing in those January February months. But as of last year, Yeah,
you go into February, start feeling better, and by March
or you're back at it training, trying to get back
to where you were going into the ear.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So here we are, it's day two of training camp
right now. Are you a goal guy? And do you
have any goals?
Speaker 9 (16:10):
You know, I there's there's always you know, the goals obviously,
you know we've got goals as a team. You set
goals as an individual player. As I was growing or
growing up, as I was, you know, fresh into the league,
there was goals of you know, coming in as undrafted,
just make a team. However, however, they can use me
whatever they need to do, and those goals have progressed
over time, but kind of this season for me, I'm
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just taking it one day at a time and just
you know, focusing on one little thing too, little things
from the practice before, things that I know that I
need to get better on, and just really honing on
those those techniques and those things I can do to
make myself the best.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Place I like, what do you think you need?
Speaker 9 (16:44):
You know, there's there's there's different things in the past
game that you want to work. It's it's really not
like I want to get better at pass blocking. It's
the the the true details of of you. You go
back from last season and you look at areas that
you were good at, you look at areas that you
were not a good at, and it's how do I
keep my skills up at? You know what I was
good at? What what kind of rushes I was good at?
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And then it's you know what what I get beat on?
You know, the best thing you can do is rewatching
yourself and seeing what you struggled with and focusing on
the negatives and turning those into a maybe an even
the next year, a washer even a positive for you.
So it's kind of just been film study with that
and learning what to get better at and then going
out on the field and working in.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Evan Brown is our guest here in the Big Red Rags,
starting left guard. What's amazing? Year eight? You mentioned undrafted
rookie free agent. To what degree is positional flexibility been
a key to staying in the NFL forging the career
you have because I'm just sort of looking at your starts.
You have as many starts at center as you do
as guard, and you started both right guard and left guard.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Yeah, No, it was pretty much unless you're you know,
the Paris Johnson's of the world drafted to play, and
even he you know, switched switched positions after his first year.
But it's you know, he's obviously a tackle and you know, Cornerstone,
great player. But you know, guys that you don't get
drafted into, you know, be a day one starter.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
You know, it's always a funny saying it's you know,
the more you can do, the more you can do,
the less you get paid, is the joke saying behind it.
But early on in your career, when you're just trying
to make it out, it's, you know, the more you
can do, so you come in and when I was
a rookie, I was learning center off the rip, and
that's where I was at because it's a you know,
very mentally tough, mentally challenging position to learn with making
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all the calls, seeing the whole defense. It's much more
on your plate than it really is in the college
game for the majority of systems. You know, once you
get that down, it's like, all right, let me start
learning guard, learning how to you know, set a three
technique by myself and slides away, you know, learning learning
those skills, and you know, the outside fan, you know
a lot of them see like oh, interior offensive line.
You just you know, it's what's differ between left and
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right guard? You just switch and it's like yeah, but
it's totally backwards, you know, you flip from one side
to the other. I mean you take a guy who's
played the left side for many years and you you
move them to right. I mean their hips have changed
shape there, their their their left hip is more open
at that point because you're in that position so much.
You're set that way, You're you're left arms, you're using
it more, You've got more feel for that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You switch.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Everything you know, flips and so it's definitely. When I
was younger, you know, was learn every position be available
for whatever they needed. And you know they need a
position jumping there and and you know, take the most
of your opportunities.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, it's amazing about it. So many people, so
many fans, I think that are out there. They look
at offensive linemen and they just see you as big
behemoth guys. They have no idea just how difficult it
is mentally to play the position. Would you agree with
that for sure?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yeah, I think center among on top of everything else.
You know, it's a it's more of seeing the whole picture,
getting everybody on the right page. Yeah, and then at
the last second, as you're down in your stands, figuring
out your technique and what you want to do and
how you want to attack the guy and looking at
his stands and stuff. Where now that I'm playing guard,
you know, letting fro doing that, and you know, I'm
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spending more time pre snap kind of looking at how
the defense is aligned, how how the three technique or
the shade I'm working against, how his footwork looks, how
his weight looks, stuff like that, Different things you can see.
So it's it's different positions can can see and look
and work the mental game of different things.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I think the most difficult is quarterback, of course, then
full back, then center full backing.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
See I wasn't self serving or anything. Evan Brown is
our guests. But at the same time, this offense requires
guards material. I'm going to be on the move a lot, right, Yeah,
I mean what do you enjoy that when you're trying
to get to the second level or after a while, like,
oh man, I need a cardio break. How does it
work with you guys?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Nah, it's it's you know, offensive line play. We know
we're going to be out there. You know, assuming you're healthy,
you're playing one hundred percent of the snaps. It's kind
of the way it goes for for the most part.
You know, bar and some rotational stuff whatever they'd be doing.
But you're you're seeing the field every snap on offense.
You're not coming off the field, and so you get
in good condition of understanding how to play that you know,
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sixty five seventy play game and how to not necessarily
pace yourself throughout the game is not the right word,
but but you know, working your breath, working catching your
breath on the sidelines, you kind of learn how to
do that over time.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Where does this offense need to get better in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
You know, there's there's a lot of things that you know,
we did really well. There's some things we didn't do well.
I think, you know, going to you know, you look
at kind of how it went, went into buy week
on a high and drop some games after that, and
I think that continuity over time is going to be
good for us. Obviously, you know we've got for returning
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in then Isaiah also played a lot of great football
for us, so we've got that recurring crew. And you know,
up front more you can have your own line play
together and and kind of know how each other. And
it's a big it's probably one of the in my opinion,
the biggest trust group you gotta. You gotta you know,
have full trust and the guys you're playing next year
that they're gonna be where they're gonna be and and
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doing things on the fly. But I think kind of
you know, my saying is starting internally, you focus on
yourself getting better. Each player does that. You have no
choice as a team to get better. If each player
improves a little bit of their own game, get out
on the field, you start working together as a team,
You start improving on the skills and concepts you got
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as a as a team on an offense, and then
defense is doing the same thing and you have no
choice but to get better as a unit.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
How much better is this defensive line? The new and
improved defensive front gonna make the offensive line? When you
look over there and you see Kaleis Campbell and dalln
Tomlinson and Josh Sweat and I mean Darius Robinson obviously
won the offseason, what's it gonna be like once the
pads go on?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Yeah, no, it's gonna be gonna be a fun battle
out there. You know, they've got a lot of experience
now with Kalais, I mean he's in year eighteen eighteen,
whatever it is, he's got two hundred and something starts.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I'm sure at the.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Point he's played a lot of football.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Man.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
I think having him is is great for the defensive
line room with the rotation of you know, you got
some older vets in there, and then you got a
lot of young guys who were, you know, just learning,
trying to figure it out. And I was talking to
a d Rob at one point and they were talking
about Klayus is like sack numbers, and he's like he's
got how many robs got like and he had one
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or two last year for because he's a little bits
of games. But it's like I got one, I got two,
he's got one hundred something eighty something, whatever it is.
And so yeah, I think having that that veteran prisence
in there, and then you got you know, big Dalve.
I've played him. I was with him in New York
when I was a rookie. I've played him when he
was in Minnesota, played him when he was in Cleveland,
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was a team. I think I was a teammate with
him when he was in Cleveland too, or he might
have been there and been somewhere else. I don't remember.
But yeah, I've played him a good amount of time.
So I know doubt Dalve well and big body good. Nos,
he got a little pass restuice to him. Excited about him.
D Rob's looking good out there, man, he looked. He
looked bulky in the off season, to say the least.
He's really been putting in the work. So excited to
see what what he's got inside. And then you know,
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we got Walt coming to and we'll see what he's got.
So it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So there's a young guy in the room, Hayden Connor.
Have you even talked to him yet?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Have you been Have you been to Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know, because offensive linemen sometimes that that's that's one
of the roughest rooms you could be in.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
I think, look, you you grew up quick as a
rookie offensive lineman first year.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know when when.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
I was a rookie. You know, that's where that's you're
a little more salty, a little that's a little meaner
back in the day. We've we've gotten a little a
little soft on the rookies. But but no, yeah, no,
love love the group of rookies we got. Man, they're
they're smart guys. They're they're you know, doing a great
jobs soaking up as much information as they can and learning,
learning the system, learning the offense and learning kind of
how to play football.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So you have actually said hello.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
He's given him his snack order he has to give
you know, you say hello, he tells him when to
make the hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You just go ahead and get the smack order dogs.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
And speaking to the old line room, have you ever
been to Yelda's home workout gym in the garage, you know,
the Atlas Stone. So if you ever had the pleasure
of working out at Yelda's place, seen it.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Have not had the pleasure to work out there. No,
it's just never never, never lined up in the off season.
I was going back a lot this off season for
the weekend, so never really there. But man, watching the
watching the den videos, you know, shout out the Desert
Viking brand got to you know, yeah, I can do that,
but yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, man, he's getting good
work in there and love to see it in there.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It really does irritate him though that you're stronger in
some areas than than Yelda. That does it's under his skin.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
It's a good it's a good competitive atmosphere in there.
You know, I've got some of the lifts I've got
and he's got some of the lifts he's got me on,
so it's a it's a good competitive atmosphere we've got
in the the weight room in the off season, and
you know, I got to bring it on the field
now too.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Can we still count on you guys to attack the
line of scrimmage? In a very north south vertical kind
of way. Of course, you know, you know you can't.
You can't. You can't change from what.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
You were good at last year. And you know you
you build on what you were good, you improve what
wasn't working, and you're throwing a couple of wrinkles here
and there.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's why we go at JG's saying, kram it vertical.
Two years in a row, the Cardinals offense has been
number two in yards per carry, better than five yards
of carry. So that's good stuff and we love talking
to you. Thanks, Evan, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I mean, there's a lot of things I don't know
anything about. O line play is right up there with
most of them. So you know what, we learned a
lot today. Appreciate it. As we continue with a big
red rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Murray takes play fit setting up deep in the pocket,
looking launching far side into the end zone and Harrison laying.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Out for it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
He got it touchdown.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
What a catch, Marvin Harrison joun your big.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Time, No way, David did he come down? It's with
that ball Marvin Harrison Junior snagging in and getting the
beat down.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Now he's at the point where he's definitely more comfortable,
and I can see it out there on the field,
and I think that'll only allow him to play faster.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You can tell when a guy's more confident.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You know, he just moves faster.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
It's not that one second as as a split second
difference from thinking and making a play.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Kyler Murray on Marvin Harrison Junior. More Marvin, please, more confidence?
Oh yeah, more muscles, more catches, right, more contested catches,
more yards, more touchdowns. TikTok. We're all waiting on what
Marvin Harrison Junior has in the store. Year two. It
is the Big Red Rage presented by San tan Ford
(27:40):
in Gilbert Paul, Calvic, Ron Molfley and a pleasure to
be joined by Evan Brown. That was outstanding. I mean,
we got a little bit of everything. We got confirmation
that the fine system in the old line room is
handled by Yell deafro Holt and Calvin Beacham. Yes, so
we got confirmation on that. He gave a shout out
to Dalvin Tomlinson, his former teammate, wouldn't you a guy
(28:00):
he's played with and played against, and he has the
ultimate respect for Dalvin Thompson. So that that really corroborated
your main observation from day two a camp. Dalvin Tomlinson, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
No doubt about it. Dalvin Tomlinson the walking square right
now for the Arizona Cardinals. Can I also say too,
just listening to Devin Brown, it just reminded me undrafted
rookie free agent, Paul undrafted rookie free agent. He's got
an eight year NFL career, he's looking at double digits.
He's looking at a ten or twelve year career in
(28:31):
the National Football League or even more, who knows, But
that is incredible, What an accomplishment for him.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And to hear him talk about the position and how
he looks like at a D lineman and their alignment,
their hand placement, where their weight is, in their stance,
it is amazing how intricate. Yeah, and detailed. Oh line
to your point, like, it's not just a bunch of big,
sloppy guys coming off the ball. This is in sumo.
These guys are really studying the finer points of the game, down.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
To down Pali one of the most cerebral positions on
the football field. Offensive linemen and everyone thinks they're big Harrys.
You know, they're just guys that go out there and
they put their gut on people and move them with
their body. No, it doesn't happen that way, Pali. These
guys are really cerebral.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And he made that joke about positional flexibility, and he said, well,
you know there is the old adage, the more you
can do, the less you get paid. Which, come on,
the more you can do is made to your point
for an eight year career in the NFL, So I've
been brown. That was outstanding. Now, Marvin Errison Junior, Wolf,
I know you liked this time of year to pose
the question, all right, what are your goals for the year?
(29:38):
Will somebody beat you to it? Your's Marvin Erson Junior
on his goals for this upcoming campaign.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
When that's the goal, that's the goal with everything you do.
At the end of the day, I want to help
this team win as many games as he possibly can.
I'm going to do all of the goals that we
have as a team. I want to help the team
reach those goals. So when I'm looking forward to just winning.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Look, they didn't add any one of signalficants to that
wide receiver. No, how many mock drafts had the Cardinals
going receiver in round one? No dead wrong, please, no
big money free agent. To what degree do you think
that's because they are counting on Marvin Harrison Junior really
exploding in year two?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yes, I think they are definitely counting on Marvin Harrison
Junior to do just that. Pauly, it is the most
important thing. We've talked about this before many many times.
I'll just touch on it briefly once again. Kyler Murray
and Marvin Harrison Junior and the chemistry thereof is going
to have a massive impact on this entire football team.
(30:38):
It's just going to and if they do that, if
they're able to throw the ball down the field and
get that chemistry going between those two players, it's going
to solve a lot of problems for the Arizona Cardinals,
and it's going to give a lot of problems to
defenses that don't want to see that happen. Let me
just say this right now, Marvin Harrison Junior as well.
(31:00):
A couple of things about this. He's put on like
twelve pounds. Looks like he's put on twelve pounds.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
He's now listed at two twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Is much stronger looking right now, and I think that
really is going to behoove him. I think that is
going to help him get off of man cover of
pressman cover. In particular. That size and that strength that
he has put on, I think is really going to
help him be much more physical and get off that
plus the contested catches that are out there. He's got
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to be more physical, more aggressive, PAULI. When a ball
is in the air, Marvin Harrison Junior has to say
in his head that's mine. I'm going to attack it,
just like Larry Fitzgerald would attack many many balls as well.
The other thing is this, Paully, how are they going
to use Marvin Harrison Junior. Are they gonna line him
up on the outside, They're going to put him out
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there in a in a trips formation. Put him out
there is the wide the perimeter receiver or are they
going to move him him around? Are they going to
start putting him in motion way more than what we
saw them do last year, because that was nonexistent for
the most part.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know what we saw today and it was an
open practice. All the Cardinals fans saw it. Some cheat
motions by Marvin Errison Junior, moments before the ball is snapped,
he just moves laterally and something the Rams are using
a lot of where Cooper Cup was in some of
those cheap motions, which has been all the rage across
the Endaviou.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
The Dolphins are doing a ton of that with Jalen
Waddle and Tyreek Hill last year in Miami. If you
saw a lot of that so and if you look
at some of the analytics, and if you listen to
Marvin Irrison Junior the end of last season, the last
two games Week seventeen and eighteen, he said he ran
some different routes, he got emotional a little bit more.
The other stat that stood out that speaks to the
(32:50):
room for improvement. He led the NFL, according to Pro
Football Focus in uncatchable targets. Yeah, balls thrown his way
that weren't realistically catchable. And for Marvin Arrison Junior meeting
the media, I wrote this down. When he talked about
his connection in chemistry with Kyler, Murray said, look for
the team to reach its goal. That's something we got
to do better than we did last year. We have
(33:12):
spent a lot of time on the field off the
field as well, developing that relationship, said Marvin Harrison Junior
just yesterday, and then he cited out, you know, we're
kind of similar personalities, me and Kyler Murray. So that
was intriguing. That's cool because Kyler said in Week seventeen
last year, we can be better, we will be better.
We gotta be better. So there's that recognition that the
(33:32):
improvement needs to happen. And look, Drew Petsen and Jonathan Gannon,
they are counting on that sort of like I don't
know what Trey McBride did last year, right, Yes, his
rookie season was much more underwhelming than Marvin Harrison Junior.
And here's Trey McBride talking to the media and just
commenting on whether he sees Marvin just more comfortable going
(33:53):
into his second year.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
You know, as a rookie, you come in, your eyes
are wide, you're kind of figuring it all out, trying to,
you know, find your place in this league, and every
week's different. And now he's got a whole year under
his belt. He knows exactly what we expect of him,
what you know, he's expected to do in his role,
and I think he's just going to continue to get
better every single year, every single day. And obviously he's
(34:15):
a fourth overall pick. Man, He's a guy who's, you know,
got a ton of talent, a ton of upside, and
I'm just excited to see him continue to get better,
continue to grow, and I love playing with him.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Man, He's a stud.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
He also said in the media, I'm not as nervous
and fidgety here in my second training camp. He said, Look,
you know, I'm a lot more relaxed and calm, and
so what do you think that'll do for him? Wolf
As someone who's been there and done that yourself, right, Yeah,
you go into that second year and all of a sudden,
you know, you know what to expect if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know, I think Paully his rookie year. You try
to force a lot of stuff, You try to force things.
Just let it come to you. Just let it. Marvin
Harrison Junior, let it come to him. He's got all
the talent, all the ability. What I love about this,
once again, is the Arizona Cardinals a bil to run
the ball. It is. It is elite, and it has
(35:04):
been over the last two seasons. As a matter of fact,
they're going to continue to attack a line of scrimmage.
And when you continue to attack a line of scrimmage,
that opens up play action. Marvin Harrison Junior running down
the field, that's going to open that up for him
throwing the ball down the field. It's going to help
Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior form that chemistry that
(35:26):
they need in order to throw the ball down the
field bally, the ability to use play action and throw
it deep. And now all of a sudden, Trey McBride
is open underneath. It sets off a chain reaction for
this offense. And that to me, once again, is why
this is so critical, so critical that they formed this
(35:46):
chemistry between them, because that means they're going to score
a lot more points. Marvin Harrison Junior jacked up, yoked up,
ready to go.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, Stevin Brown, where the Cardinals offense can get better
this year? Well a year ago they were top five
in chunk runs, but they were in the bottom quarter
of the league in chunk throws. Correct, So Marvin Errison
Junior obviously could be a big answer to that. And yes,
he did say he pays attention to what Malik neighbors
Brian Thomas Junior and Lad mcconkee did last year the
three receivers drafted after him, so plenty of motivation for
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Speaker 3 (36:42):
Cragged down by Kalais Campbell, sack at the eighteen. It
was Kalaias Campbell there first sack by Campbell at midvale.
Kalais having a day feeling pressure. Heading sack at the
thirty five by Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Screen to the left. That's picked up by Campbell the
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He is Campbell read bad play. That is an all
pro play by an all Pro player.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Hen sacked at the fifteen yard line by Kalis Campbell.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Sacked again.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Kalaias Campbell was there, sacked again at the twenty eight
yard line, and it's Kaleis Campbell.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's good energy by Dave Pash right there. Kalayas getting
the best out of the Voice of the Cardinals right there.
How about Kaleis Campbell, the one time longtime host of
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We are santan Ford, Paul Calvic Ron woldefully in the
return of the six time Pro bowler. Wolf a member
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(37:40):
twenty nineteen Walter Payton Man of the Year. We're talking
the entire league, a guy who has over one hundred
and ten career sacks. He played in Super Bowl forty
three for the Cardinals as a rookie, and he's entering
season number eighteen.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Truly incredible and one of the guys that I cannot
wait in this defense right now, there's this defense Polly
is going to be full of surprises. And how you
have Nick Rowlis using these players, all these different guys,
not only the defensive lineman but everybody like Buddha Baker
and moving them around of course, and Rabbit as well,
(38:18):
And how much he's going to be involved in Garrett Williams,
where is he going to be lined up? What are
his responsibilities going to be? And Kalais Campbell, where is
he going to have Kalais Campbell playing. Is it going
to be the five technique outside shoulder of an offensive tackle?
Is it going to be that three technique? I think
it's going to be a lot of that three technique
(38:39):
outside shoulder of a guard, a four I where you're
lined up on the inside eye of that offensive tackle.
Where is he going to play? I don't know, but
I know that he's going to play an awful lot
and Kalais Campbell is going to change this defense. He's
a wild card.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And don't forget he can still play.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
He can still play.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Just ask him. He has started all seventeen games each
of the last two years. And Cardinals coaches will tell
you he was a problem in Miami when he was
playing for the Dolphins. Fact, the Cardinals flight out tried
to trade for him right before the deadline, couldn't get
a done minam. He didn't want to give him up.
So there's all that, and then there's the perspective he brings.
In fact, here's Jonathan Gannon talking about Kaleis Campbell, a.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Guy that does it the right way, that has seen
it done a lot of different ways because he's been
with different teams that's a cool perspective for me. Definitely
lean on his expertise, but I think where it's most
going to show up is in that D line room
because he brings a lot of experience to that room
and he can help those guys. I tell people all
(39:44):
the time, like, you want to learn football, talk to
the players. They have the best perspective.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Players, no players. Here's the little anecdote right after practice
today mac Wilson Senior talking to the media where he
told everyone, Yep, I'm the mic linebacker. I have the
green dotting and be calling the defense. He said. In fact,
Amble came up to me during practice said hey, I
got to bark out that audible that check a little louder.
It's got to echo through the entire defense. And mac
(40:09):
Wilson Senior said, I've never called a defense like that,
because yes, okay, I got you, I got you, kalais.
So it's interesting how little things like that, not just
necessarily with the D lineman, because it's obvious he's going
to be a big help with Darius Robinson and Walter
Nolan the third, even Dante Stills as young, but there's
other things that he knows is critical for any defense
to function all eleven in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know, to some degree, Paully, it's like parenting for
the most part, you know there you grow up. Of
course in your parents, they parent you a certain way.
Many times we learn from our parents this is what
we're going to do. But we also learn from our parents.
I'm not going to do that when I'm a parent, right,
I mean this, And this is the thing that I
(40:51):
think JG is kind of alluding to as well, the
perspective of Kalais Campbell and the fact that he can say,
how did you like that? How do you like this?
How do you like the fact we do this? And
maybe Kalais, who's been in the league a long long time,
might say, well, you know what, I'd do it a
different way. Here's how we used to do it here,
you know, whatever it may be. So many times it's
(41:12):
not only what you should do, it's also what not
to do that I think a guy like Kalaias can
actually advise on.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Well, think about how many times on his weekly TV
show Wolf, which we posted for years, that Jagas said
he runs things past James Connor, runs things past Voda Baker. Yes,
before he then announces them to the entire team.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I would imagine kalaias Campbell is going to be
thrown into that.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Mex no doubt. In fact, here's Kalais when he was asked,
all right, you know, because there's a lot made of
him being a coach on the field, but he said,
once again, he can still play.
Speaker 12 (41:44):
I think I take a lot of pride and still
being like an elite player, you know, in moments, you know,
I feel like, you know, no matter who it is,
I would love to go up against the best of
them and still be able to throw them around and
beat him, you know. And as a team, like you know,
I'm trying to understand the schemes and you know what
teams are trying to do to beat us, you know
what our weaknesses are and all that stuff, and be
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able to help the coaches echo that to the players
and understand, like, you know, how we can take advantage
of it on the field. And so you know, I've
tried to become like a coach on the field a
lot of times over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Once again, Cardinals have a couple of early season division
games right Niners Week three f Seattle week four. I
just would love to see the look on the faces
some of those division rivals when they're looking at film
of the Cardinals revamped, new an improved defensive line, including
Kalais Campbell. I mean, it is night and day from
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, no, it is. And one of the things about
Kalais which is so good too, is how many times
he gets his hands on a pig. How many times
the pass defense by Kalais Campbell a batted ball at
the line of scrimmage. That's one of the reasons why
they like to line them up on the tackle position
as well, because many times he will come inside, whether
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he's running a game or not. He also will come
inside many times with a three technique as well, over
the outside shoulder of the guard. He's right there in
the gap and right there in the passing lane. And
he's a very very smart player, and because of that,
he is alert. He is aware. He knows the down
in distance. He knows exactly what they might try. Maybe
(43:17):
they were they with a quick pass, Maybe this is
where they'll call that play, and he's looking for that.
I will promise you that Kalaius knows what three the
percentages might be in getting the ball out quickly and
when to look for it.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
The number a year ago was nine. The Cardinals is
a defense, had nine interceptions. Yeah, that's why earlier this
offseason it was a bit of a hot take, but
I did predict the Cardinals will double that number to
eighteen interceptions this year, just based on the defensive line,
the defensive front, okay, affecting the quarterback, getting to the
quarterback tip balls okay. Also, I mean, like, look, you
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got Will Johnson, who has incredible instincts. If he's that
guy at corner. We know Max Melton is really poised
to take a leap in year two. Jalen Thompson in
a contract year, Buddha Baker, I think it's gonna be
flying around more than ever. I could easily see this
defense double the number of interceptions they had from a
year ago. Is that outlandish?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
No, I don't think so at all. I think you're
right on Polly when you take that ability to get
to the quarterback, force him to throw the ball early,
and then you've got those guys in the secondary Right now, man,
I'm thinking about it, Garret Williams, Max Melton, and then
Will Johnson Are you kidding me? That could be? You
could start those three corners. They could possibly start those
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three corners.
Speaker 12 (44:38):
Men?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Are they young?
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Speaking of ballhawks, up aout a quick shout out to Tyron.
Matthew called it a career. This man one of our
all time favorite Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I mean, I just we love you.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:04):
You smell that, wolf No, it's the smell of NFL
training camp in the air, blocking sleds, orange gatorade, sweaty
three hundred pounders. Not to mention the anxiety of undrafted rookies.
But you know what else I really love about this
time of year?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, what's that when Miles.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Garrett can say with a straight face earlier today and
I do quote I expect to get to the Super Bowl,
a reminder of the all pro plays for the Browns. Yeah,
a three win team with a four quarterback competition right now,
but wolf Hope is eternal in July. And we love that,
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Speaker 1 (01:53):
There, I think Pauli, Miles Garrett is probably trying to
set the table right now for future endeavors. Let's put
it that Way's my take on that. One man here,
it is day two of training camp. Can you feel it, Paulie.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I can definitely feel it. You can see it in
some of the faces of the rookies. I was like
to look around, especially the undrafted guys. You know, the
boxers are bunging out there, and then you have your
Buddha Bakers and uh you know all as well, and
they're pacing themselves. But wolf as someone who came into
week one day to a training camp here at State
Farm Stadium, and I know earlier on the air for
(02:30):
four hours you were fanning the flames of the QB controversy.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was not well stop QB of the d Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
We got an answer after practice. Yeah, Mac Wilson Sr.
Come on down. Mac is the mic. That's what he
told the media. He will be calling the defense and
replace Kaiser White this season.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So, Paulie, would you say that is your biggest takeaway
right now? Love training camp? What you were looking at,
the biggest question going it was your biggest question going in. Yeah,
you know what, I don't think that's a finished product.
It's just a guess right now. I would imagine they're
going to open that competition up a little bit, especially
if Mac is having issues with it. I'm not saying
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he will have issues with that, but I don't think
we've heard the last at the Green Dot. That's number one.
But my biggest takeaway right now as far as training
camp goes, is literally the defensive line. The defensive line
has got my attention, Pauli. We've talked an awful lot
about it all off season, of course, talking about how
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the Arizona Cardinals have improved their defensive line, but to
actually see these guys out on the field with their
jerseys on. They are some units. This is really really
encouraging to me. Dalvin Tomlinson looks like the quintessential noseguard
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that every defensive coordinator won on his defense. He is
absolutely massive. Paul I said this on the air earlier.
This is a guy. He's a dumpster with eyebrows right now.
He's a square. He's a walking, talking square. I don't
think I've ever seen a dude from behind who looks
more like a square than Dalvin Tomlin says. So they
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look going to be playing over the center.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
They listed him at three twenty five bom sort of
like Larry Fascherroald with his golf handicap. I think he's
sandbagging on that one.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
He could be. He's at least three thirty five. I'm
just telling you right now. Come on, if somebody walked
up to me and said, man, Dumbin's three fitty, I
believe it.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's why two months ago on this show, Isaiah Adams
said when I asked him about O line D line drill, which,
by the way, by our forecast, will be Monday, TikTok yes.
Isaiah Adams said, Yeah, it's hard not to look across
at the defensive lineman and notice big Dalvin Thomlinson and
I'm gonna have to take him on in a bull
rush once agains extremely real full pads, full contact, full speed.
But right, well, if you look over there, and I
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mean it's like extreme makeover.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
We made this comment in mini camp, like this should
be on like HGTV. You got Kaleia standing next to Dalvin.
You got Daris Robinson new and improved. Right, there's LJ.
Collier back, soon to be joined by Walter Nole in
the third. You hope by the start of the regular
season Justin Jones is back. Oh, was something to prove
Dante Stills was their most reliable defensive lineman a year ago.
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All of a sudden, that is a serious area of depth.
Even though the other news headline Walter Nole in the
third calf injury. Yeah, got to quote miss some time.
According to Jonathan Aann and Balall, Nichols still dealing with
the neck injury. But unlike last couple of years, they
can afford some early season injuries because they have the depth.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yes, they do bully and once again, how they're going
to use these defensive linemen in this defensive line room.
It's gonna be fascinating early in the season to watch it.
Not talking preseason because they're not gonna tip their hand,
but how they're actually gonna do it week one, week two,
week three. Who's gonna get the reps and what situation
they're gonna get the reps. That's going to be very
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very interesting. Kaleis Campbell, to me, he looks exactly like
a rectangle with a helmet on, and you've got Dalvin
Tomlinson who looks like the square Paul it is. It
is unbelievable because I don't I could not take my eyes.
I had the box out, of course, and we were
broadcasting today, had the box out looking at Delvin Tomlinson,
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knowing I couldn't say anything about Delvin Tomlinson until we
could actually say something about him, until practice actually started,
the open part of practice, I could not. I am
so stunned at how big he truly is the quintessential
nose tackle if you ask me.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I was telling Craig ReLU because I always coach up gree,
I was saying, you know, I really wish that the
Cardinals would start with the division game, because I'd love
to bust out this new defensive front on a division rival. Hey, Seattle,
how's this taste?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
In this case, New Orleans is going to find out. Okay,
it might find out the hard way Week one. We'll see.
But once again, Cardinal's underway in camp. And here's Jonathan
Gannon to start things off talking about the sense of urgency.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
The NFL mindset is, there's always a sense of urgency
everything like that. I think the players are really confident
where who's sitting next to them, that if we play
our brand of ball, we can win some games, you
know what I mean. So, and I don't think they
didn't feel that last year or the year before, but
it's a heightened sense of awareness. We're in year three
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now and we got what we need.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
What's interesting is to see the defense be much more
competitive against the offense versus the last couple of years.
We got a taste of it in mini camp. You
got a taste of it so far in eleven on eleven.
There's just more swag in the defense. Amazing when you
up the talent level and all of a sudden, the
competition level goes up. And now hopefully that's the rising
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tide the list both sides of the wall.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm with you on that, PAULI. Once again, in the
defense there is a lot more swag, and I think
it's because of upfront. It starts upfront with these guys.
That was my biggest takeaway from being out there watching
practice today was just the defensive line and how good
that defensive line room looks right now. My second takeaway,
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first couple of days of practice here, and this was
the first practice that I actually saw here today. Marvin
Harrison Junior. He was number two, so it was the
massive defensive line number one. And then it was just
how much better Marvin Harrison Junior looks in a UNI
right now? Are you kidding me? He looked buffed.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And you know what, we're gonna hear from Marvin a
little bit later, We're gonna hear from Trey McBrien on
Marvin Harrison Junior. In fact, we're gonna drill a little
deeper into Marvin Harrison Junior a little bit later. But
getting back to the defense for just a moment, think
about this three down linemen, Josh Sweat, Zavin Collins, you're
outside linebackers for example, Mac Wilson Seniors or Mike Backer
either or there is a will linebacker, whether it's a
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Cody Simon Owen Papo who I think is a guy
who's gonna make a push. Or if there's just a
single linebacker inside backer, and all of a sudden, you
go with five DB's. Are the Cardinals not? We have
to go with five DB's two outside corners Garrett Williams
and then Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker or maybe Rabbit
gets a roll. There's a lot of different sort of
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you know, personnel groups that Nick Rolis can devise and
mess with this year.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
There's no doubt about it, Bullie, We're gonna see a
lot of different looks from the Arizona Cardinals. Defensively. They're
doing stuff right now that is really cutting edge to me.
When you talk about taking Buddha Baker and the entire
secondary watching to see if Buddha actually blitzes based on
what Boodha is being told to do, based on the
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look that he has, does he actually blitz If he does,
it changes your assignment in the secondary. I gotta tell you, Paul,
this to me is groundbreaking stuff. To me, again, it's
just different. It's like a hot read almost for a
quarterback offensively who suddenly reads the defense, sees the hot
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and throws the hot gets the ball out quickly. You're
telling me they're doing the exact same thing on the
defensive side of the ball. That's brilliant.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Jonathan GaNNT we spoke about the injuries here. He as
the head coach giving the official injury update day one.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Billial won't be out there coming back from the next still,
BJ won't be out there coming back from the knee.
And a new one that popped up was Walter hurt
his calf training, so he's going to miss some time.
And all three of them are doing everything they can
to get back on the field. You know, they're all different,
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but he's going to miss some time there.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You go very into practice today, which ended a few
minutes early after there was a collision between teammates JJ
Russell and JJ Russell and the safety, rookie safety Keaton Crawford.
Russell was carted off as being evaluated for head and
neck injury. That's according to the team. He was alert
on the field, had movement in all his extremities, but
he was he's been taken to a local hospital for
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further testing and continued evaluation. So that was an occurrence
at the end of camp and then they're going to
be back at it today and then once again tracking
for these days. It's day five of training camp when
you can have full pats.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, and of course what he said about Walter Nolan
caught our attention. I'm sure it caught your attention as well.
You've got Blone Nichols, who's coming back from a neck
bj Ojelari of course, who's coming back from that knee.
Walter Nolan the third going down with a calf injury.
That probably got your attention the way it got my attention.
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Why because of what we saw with Darius Robinson last year.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
No doubt about him. Now are there similarities? We have
no idea. We do know. Kaleis Campbell to the media said,
you know what, Walter, take all the time you need,
make sure you are one hundred percent right. This is
earlier this afternoon and saying, you know what, we know
what you can do, we know what you're capable of.
And so with that in mind, once again you have
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azycardstravel dot com. All right, well, ten years in the
NFL is a fullback deep down, though we know you
really wanted to be an offensive lineman. Next best thing
we get to visit with a starting offensive lineman. Evan
Brown is next. I mean, you can't cram a vertical
right unless you can come off the ball. We'll talk
to Evan Brown. Coming up next. It is The Big
(12:52):
Red Rage Live from Cardinals Camp, all presented by Santan
Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
We are Santan Ford, Evans taking my crown.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
It's annoying. He's super strong. He's pissing me off. Honestly,
hope he sees it, but nah, he's super strong, So
it's fun to have a guy in there. And Paris
is also he's so long, but he's also stupid strong,
makes no sense.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
He plays smart and he's actually super athletic. Like he's
the only other offensive lineman that I've been around that
I feel like compete with me, like we run, jump,
pull somebody.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You see him.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
He's not built like a Bugelow SpongeBob, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like he's just built like a block.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Hey, that's a heck of a scouter report right there.
And you know what, that's just evidence as to why
we booked our debut interview here our Cards Camp twenty
twenty five kickoff show, the Big Red, Rage and Wolf.
Some people will say we're not even really talking football
until we're talking football with an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Interior offensive line aka the blood Sport.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Evan Brown is our guest. So Evan, first off, there's
the little banter from the old line. You're not gonna
get fined for this media interview, are you? I know
you guys are with your fine structure at times.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (14:15):
You know that's a great question that one will be
handed down to to Froe and Beach, but we will
We'll see how they they rule on it. But you know,
maybe maybe not.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Evan. We were visiting, of course before this broadcast, and
you were talking about the fact that this is your eight,
your eight for you right now, just your NFL career
going into your ear eight. How do you feel about this?
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Yeah, man, No, I feel feel good. I feel like
I'm coming into the year, you know, speaking on on
just just me personally best best I've no, maybe not
felt you know, you got you got as time builds
up on You're gonna have those, but like best my
body's felt like physically and and just just how I'm
feeling coming.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
To the air.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Man.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
I'm excited for the year and excited for the team
we've have, so you know, it's been a been a
great run and excited to keep it going.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
How long does it take you to feel normal again?
You were one of three offensive players who started every
single game last year. What do you feel like at
the end of a seventeen game season.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Yeah, definitely not great bodies bodies at that point, you know,
pretty beat up, but it's kind of you know, later
on in the season you get into a little bit
of a groove on learning the best things that you
can do to recover your body, to just get it
feeling better for the game today, that next week and
you know, first month after is kind of just taking
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it off, relaxing a couple you know, good flushes of
the body, getting some sweating, but really just just relax
and letting the body, you know, do its thing. The
body's an incredible device that that is able to heal
itself over time. And yeah, you know, you start getting
into February feeling good again. Obviously, you know goal this
year's go into the playoffs and do that and be
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playing in those January February months. But as of last year, Yeah,
you go into February, start feeling better, and by March
or you're back at it training, trying to get back
to where you were going into the ear.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So here we are, it's day two of training camp
right now. Are you a goal guy? And do you
have any goals?
Speaker 9 (16:10):
You know, I there's there's always you know, the goals obviously,
you know we've got goals as a team. You set
goals as an individual player. As I was growing or
growing up, as I was, you know, fresh into the league,
there was goals of you know, coming in as undrafted,
just make a team. However, however, they can use me
whatever they need to do, and those goals have progressed
over time, but kind of this season for me, I'm
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just taking it one day at a time and just
you know, focusing on one little thing too, little things
from the practice before, things that I know that I
need to get better on, and just really honing on
those those techniques and those things I can do to
make myself the best.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Place I like, what do you think you need?
Speaker 9 (16:44):
You know, there's there's there's different things in the past
game that you want to work. It's it's really not
like I want to get better at pass blocking. It's
the the the true details of of you. You go
back from last season and you look at areas that
you were good at, you look at areas that you
were not a good at, and it's how do I
keep my skills up at? You know what I was
good at? What what kind of rushes I was good at?
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And then it's you know what what I get beat on?
You know, the best thing you can do is rewatching
yourself and seeing what you struggled with and focusing on
the negatives and turning those into a maybe an even
the next year, a washer even a positive for you.
So it's kind of just been film study with that
and learning what to get better at and then going
out on the field and working in.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Evan Brown is our guest here in the Big Red Rags,
starting left guard. What's amazing? Year eight? You mentioned undrafted
rookie free agent. To what degree is positional flexibility been
a key to staying in the NFL forging the career
you have because I'm just sort of looking at your starts.
You have as many starts at center as you do
as guard, and you started both right guard and left guard.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right.
Speaker 9 (17:45):
Yeah, No, it was pretty much unless you're you know,
the Paris Johnson's of the world drafted to play, and
even he you know, switched switched positions after his first year.
But it's you know, he's obviously a tackle and you know, Cornerstone,
great player. But you know, guys that you don't get
drafted into, you know, be a day one starter.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
You know, it's always a funny saying it's you know,
the more you can do, the more you can do,
the less you get paid, is the joke saying behind it.
But early on in your career, when you're just trying
to make it out, it's, you know, the more you
can do, so you come in and when I was
a rookie, I was learning center off the rip, and
that's where I was at because it's a you know,
very mentally tough, mentally challenging position to learn with making
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all the calls, seeing the whole defense. It's much more
on your plate than it really is in the college
game for the majority of systems. You know, once you
get that down, it's like, all right, let me start
learning guard, learning how to you know, set a three
technique by myself and slides away, you know, learning learning
those skills, and you know, the outside fan, you know
a lot of them see like oh, interior offensive line.
You just you know, it's what's differ between left and
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right guard? You just switch and it's like yeah, but
it's totally backwards, you know, you flip from one side
to the other. I mean you take a guy who's
played the left side for many years and you you
move them to right. I mean their hips have changed
shape there, their their their left hip is more open
at that point because you're in that position so much.
You're set that way, You're you're left arms, you're using
it more, You've got more feel for that.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You switch.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Everything you know, flips and so it's definitely. When I
was younger, you know, was learn every position be available
for whatever they needed. And you know they need a
position jumping there and and you know, take the most
of your opportunities.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You know, it's amazing about it. So many people, so
many fans, I think that are out there. They look
at offensive linemen and they just see you as big
behemoth guys. They have no idea just how difficult it
is mentally to play the position. Would you agree with
that for sure?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yeah, I think center among on top of everything else.
You know, it's a it's more of seeing the whole picture,
getting everybody on the right page. Yeah, and then at
the last second, as you're down in your stands, figuring
out your technique and what you want to do and
how you want to attack the guy and looking at
his stands and stuff. Where now that I'm playing guard,
you know, letting fro doing that, and you know, I'm
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spending more time pre snap kind of looking at how
the defense is aligned, how how the three technique or
the shade I'm working against, how his footwork looks, how
his weight looks, stuff like that, Different things you can see.
So it's it's different positions can can see and look
and work the mental game of different things.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I think the most difficult is quarterback, of course, then
full back, then center full backing.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
See I wasn't self serving or anything. Evan Brown is
our guests. But at the same time, this offense requires
guards material. I'm going to be on the move a lot, right, Yeah,
I mean what do you enjoy that when you're trying
to get to the second level or after a while, like,
oh man, I need a cardio break. How does it
work with you guys?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Nah, it's it's you know, offensive line play. We know
we're going to be out there. You know, assuming you're healthy,
you're playing one hundred percent of the snaps. It's kind
of the way it goes for for the most part.
You know, bar and some rotational stuff whatever they'd be doing.
But you're you're seeing the field every snap on offense.
You're not coming off the field, and so you get
in good condition of understanding how to play that you know,
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sixty five seventy play game and how to not necessarily
pace yourself throughout the game is not the right word,
but but you know, working your breath, working catching your
breath on the sidelines, you kind of learn how to
do that over time.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Where does this offense need to get better in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
You know, there's there's a lot of things that you know,
we did really well. There's some things we didn't do well.
I think, you know, going to you know, you look
at kind of how it went, went into buy week
on a high and drop some games after that, and
I think that continuity over time is going to be
good for us. Obviously, you know we've got for returning
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in then Isaiah also played a lot of great football
for us, so we've got that recurring crew. And you know,
up front more you can have your own line play
together and and kind of know how each other. And
it's a big it's probably one of the in my opinion,
the biggest trust group you gotta. You gotta you know,
have full trust and the guys you're playing next year
that they're gonna be where they're gonna be and and
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doing things on the fly. But I think kind of
you know, my saying is starting internally, you focus on
yourself getting better. Each player does that. You have no
choice as a team to get better. If each player
improves a little bit of their own game, get out
on the field, you start working together as a team,
You start improving on the skills and concepts you got
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as a as a team on an offense, and then
defense is doing the same thing and you have no
choice but to get better as a unit.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
How much better is this defensive line? The new and
improved defensive front gonna make the offensive line? When you
look over there and you see Kaleis Campbell and dalln
Tomlinson and Josh Sweat and I mean Darius Robinson obviously
won the offseason, what's it gonna be like once the
pads go on?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Yeah, no, it's gonna be gonna be a fun battle
out there. You know, they've got a lot of experience
now with Kalais, I mean he's in year eighteen eighteen,
whatever it is, he's got two hundred and something starts.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I'm sure at the.
Speaker 9 (22:59):
Point he's played a lot of football.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Man.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
I think having him is is great for the defensive
line room with the rotation of you know, you got
some older vets in there, and then you got a
lot of young guys who were, you know, just learning,
trying to figure it out. And I was talking to
a d Rob at one point and they were talking
about Klayus is like sack numbers, and he's like he's
got how many robs got like and he had one
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or two last year for because he's a little bits
of games. But it's like I got one, I got two,
he's got one hundred something eighty something, whatever it is.
And so yeah, I think having that that veteran prisence
in there, and then you got you know, big Dalve.
I've played him. I was with him in New York
when I was a rookie. I've played him when he
was in Minnesota, played him when he was in Cleveland,
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was a team. I think I was a teammate with
him when he was in Cleveland too, or he might
have been there and been somewhere else. I don't remember.
But yeah, I've played him a good amount of time.
So I know doubt Dalve well and big body good. Nos,
he got a little pass restuice to him. Excited about him.
D Rob's looking good out there, man, he looked. He
looked bulky in the off season, to say the least.
He's really been putting in the work. So excited to
see what what he's got inside. And then you know,
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we got Walt coming to and we'll see what he's got.
So it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So there's a young guy in the room, Hayden Connor.
Have you even talked to him yet?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Have you been Have you been to Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know, because offensive linemen sometimes that that's that's one
of the roughest rooms you could be in.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
I think, look, you you grew up quick as a
rookie offensive lineman first year.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know when when.
Speaker 9 (24:28):
I was a rookie. You know, that's where that's you're
a little more salty, a little that's a little meaner
back in the day. We've we've gotten a little a
little soft on the rookies. But but no, yeah, no,
love love the group of rookies we got. Man, they're
they're smart guys. They're they're you know, doing a great
jobs soaking up as much information as they can and learning,
learning the system, learning the offense and learning kind of
how to play football.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
So you have actually said hello.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
He's given him his snack order he has to give
you know, you say hello, he tells him when to
make the hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You just go ahead and get the smack order dogs.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
And speaking to the old line room, have you ever
been to Yelda's home workout gym in the garage, you know,
the Atlas Stone. So if you ever had the pleasure
of working out at Yelda's place, seen it.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Have not had the pleasure to work out there. No,
it's just never never, never lined up in the off season.
I was going back a lot this off season for
the weekend, so never really there. But man, watching the
watching the den videos, you know, shout out the Desert
Viking brand got to you know, yeah, I can do that,
but yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, man, he's getting good
work in there and love to see it in there.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It really does irritate him though that you're stronger in
some areas than than Yelda. That does it's under his skin.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
It's a good it's a good competitive atmosphere in there.
You know, I've got some of the lifts I've got
and he's got some of the lifts he's got me on,
so it's a it's a good competitive atmosphere we've got
in the the weight room in the off season, and
you know, I got to bring it on the field
now too.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Can we still count on you guys to attack the
line of scrimmage? In a very north south vertical kind
of way. Of course, you know, you know you can't.
You can't. You can't change from what.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
You were good at last year. And you know you
you build on what you were good, you improve what
wasn't working, and you're throwing a couple of wrinkles here
and there.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's why we go at JG's saying, kram it vertical.
Two years in a row, the Cardinals offense has been
number two in yards per carry, better than five yards
of carry. So that's good stuff and we love talking
to you. Thanks, Evan, appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I mean, there's a lot of things I don't know
anything about. O line play is right up there with
most of them. So you know what, we learned a
lot today. Appreciate it. As we continue with a big
red rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Murray takes play fit setting up deep in the pocket,
looking launching far side into the end zone and Harrison laying.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Out for it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
He got it touchdown.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
What a catch, Marvin Harrison joun your big.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Time, No way, David did he come down? It's with
that ball Marvin Harrison Junior snagging in and getting the
beat down.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
Now he's at the point where he's definitely more comfortable,
and I can see it out there on the field,
and I think that'll only allow him to play faster.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You can tell when a guy's more confident.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
You know, he just moves faster.
Speaker 10 (27:15):
It's not that one second as as a split second
difference from thinking and making a play.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Kyler Murray on Marvin Harrison Junior. More Marvin, please, more confidence?
Oh yeah, more muscles, more catches, right, more contested catches,
more yards, more touchdowns. TikTok. We're all waiting on what
Marvin Harrison Junior has in the store. Year two. It
is the Big Red Rage presented by San tan Ford
(27:40):
in Gilbert Paul, Calvic, Ron Molfley and a pleasure to
be joined by Evan Brown. That was outstanding. I mean,
we got a little bit of everything. We got confirmation
that the fine system in the old line room is
handled by Yell deafro Holt and Calvin Beacham. Yes, so
we got confirmation on that. He gave a shout out
to Dalvin Tomlinson, his former teammate, wouldn't you a guy
(28:00):
he's played with and played against, and he has the
ultimate respect for Dalvin Thompson. So that that really corroborated
your main observation from day two a camp. Dalvin Tomlinson, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
No doubt about it. Dalvin Tomlinson the walking square right
now for the Arizona Cardinals. Can I also say too,
just listening to Devin Brown, it just reminded me undrafted
rookie free agent, Paul undrafted rookie free agent. He's got
an eight year NFL career, he's looking at double digits.
He's looking at a ten or twelve year career in
(28:31):
the National Football League or even more, who knows, But
that is incredible, What an accomplishment for him.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And to hear him talk about the position and how
he looks like at a D lineman and their alignment,
their hand placement, where their weight is, in their stance,
it is amazing how intricate. Yeah, and detailed. Oh line
to your point, like, it's not just a bunch of big,
sloppy guys coming off the ball. This is in sumo.
These guys are really studying the finer points of the game, down.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
To down Pali one of the most cerebral positions on
the football field. Offensive linemen and everyone thinks they're big Harrys.
You know, they're just guys that go out there and
they put their gut on people and move them with
their body. No, it doesn't happen that way, Pali. These
guys are really cerebral.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And he made that joke about positional flexibility, and he said, well,
you know there is the old adage, the more you
can do, the less you get paid. Which, come on,
the more you can do is made to your point
for an eight year career in the NFL, So I've
been brown. That was outstanding. Now, Marvin Errison Junior, Wolf,
I know you liked this time of year to pose
the question, all right, what are your goals for the year?
(29:38):
Will somebody beat you to it? Your's Marvin Erson Junior
on his goals for this upcoming campaign.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
When that's the goal, that's the goal with everything you do.
At the end of the day, I want to help
this team win as many games as he possibly can.
I'm going to do all of the goals that we
have as a team. I want to help the team
reach those goals. So when I'm looking forward to just winning.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Look, they didn't add any one of signalficants to that
wide receiver. No, how many mock drafts had the Cardinals
going receiver in round one? No dead wrong, please, no
big money free agent. To what degree do you think
that's because they are counting on Marvin Harrison Junior really
exploding in year two?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yes, I think they are definitely counting on Marvin Harrison
Junior to do just that. Pauly, it is the most
important thing. We've talked about this before many many times.
I'll just touch on it briefly once again. Kyler Murray
and Marvin Harrison Junior and the chemistry thereof is going
to have a massive impact on this entire football team.
(30:38):
It's just going to and if they do that, if
they're able to throw the ball down the field and
get that chemistry going between those two players, it's going
to solve a lot of problems for the Arizona Cardinals,
and it's going to give a lot of problems to
defenses that don't want to see that happen. Let me
just say this right now, Marvin Harrison Junior as well.
(31:00):
A couple of things about this. He's put on like
twelve pounds. Looks like he's put on twelve pounds.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
He's now listed at two twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Is much stronger looking right now, and I think that
really is going to behoove him. I think that is
going to help him get off of man cover of
pressman cover. In particular. That size and that strength that
he has put on, I think is really going to
help him be much more physical and get off that
plus the contested catches that are out there. He's got
(31:31):
to be more physical, more aggressive, PAULI. When a ball
is in the air, Marvin Harrison Junior has to say
in his head that's mine. I'm going to attack it,
just like Larry Fitzgerald would attack many many balls as well.
The other thing is this, Paully, how are they going
to use Marvin Harrison Junior. Are they gonna line him
up on the outside, They're going to put him out
(31:52):
there in a in a trips formation. Put him out
there is the wide the perimeter receiver or are they
going to move him him around? Are they going to
start putting him in motion way more than what we
saw them do last year, because that was nonexistent for
the most part.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You know what we saw today and it was an
open practice. All the Cardinals fans saw it. Some cheat
motions by Marvin Errison Junior, moments before the ball is snapped,
he just moves laterally and something the Rams are using
a lot of where Cooper Cup was in some of
those cheap motions, which has been all the rage across
the Endaviou.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
The Dolphins are doing a ton of that with Jalen
Waddle and Tyreek Hill last year in Miami. If you
saw a lot of that so and if you look
at some of the analytics, and if you listen to
Marvin Irrison Junior the end of last season, the last
two games Week seventeen and eighteen, he said he ran
some different routes, he got emotional a little bit more.
The other stat that stood out that speaks to the
(32:50):
room for improvement. He led the NFL, according to Pro
Football Focus in uncatchable targets. Yeah, balls thrown his way
that weren't realistically catchable. And for Marvin Arrison Junior meeting
the media, I wrote this down. When he talked about
his connection in chemistry with Kyler, Murray said, look for
the team to reach its goal. That's something we got
to do better than we did last year. We have
(33:12):
spent a lot of time on the field off the
field as well, developing that relationship, said Marvin Harrison Junior
just yesterday, and then he cited out, you know, we're
kind of similar personalities, me and Kyler Murray. So that
was intriguing. That's cool because Kyler said in Week seventeen
last year, we can be better, we will be better.
We gotta be better. So there's that recognition that the
(33:32):
improvement needs to happen. And look, Drew Petsen and Jonathan Gannon,
they are counting on that sort of like I don't
know what Trey McBride did last year, right, Yes, his
rookie season was much more underwhelming than Marvin Harrison Junior.
And here's Trey McBride talking to the media and just
commenting on whether he sees Marvin just more comfortable going
(33:53):
into his second year.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
You know, as a rookie, you come in, your eyes
are wide, you're kind of figuring it all out, trying to,
you know, find your place in this league, and every
week's different. And now he's got a whole year under
his belt. He knows exactly what we expect of him,
what you know, he's expected to do in his role,
and I think he's just going to continue to get
better every single year, every single day. And obviously he's
(34:15):
a fourth overall pick. Man, He's a guy who's, you know,
got a ton of talent, a ton of upside, and
I'm just excited to see him continue to get better,
continue to grow, and I love playing with him.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Man, He's a stud.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
He also said in the media, I'm not as nervous
and fidgety here in my second training camp. He said, Look,
you know, I'm a lot more relaxed and calm, and
so what do you think that'll do for him? Wolf
As someone who's been there and done that yourself, right, Yeah,
you go into that second year and all of a sudden,
you know, you know what to expect if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know, I think Paully his rookie year. You try
to force a lot of stuff, You try to force things.
Just let it come to you. Just let it. Marvin
Harrison Junior, let it come to him. He's got all
the talent, all the ability. What I love about this,
once again, is the Arizona Cardinals a bil to run
the ball. It is. It is elite, and it has
(35:04):
been over the last two seasons. As a matter of fact,
they're going to continue to attack a line of scrimmage.
And when you continue to attack a line of scrimmage,
that opens up play action. Marvin Harrison Junior running down
the field, that's going to open that up for him
throwing the ball down the field. It's going to help
Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior form that chemistry that
(35:26):
they need in order to throw the ball down the
field bally, the ability to use play action and throw
it deep. And now all of a sudden, Trey McBride
is open underneath. It sets off a chain reaction for
this offense. And that to me, once again, is why
this is so critical, so critical that they formed this
(35:46):
chemistry between them, because that means they're going to score
a lot more points. Marvin Harrison Junior jacked up, yoked up,
ready to go.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, Stevin Brown, where the Cardinals offense can get better
this year? Well a year ago they were top five
in chunk runs, but they were in the bottom quarter
of the league in chunk throws. Correct, So Marvin Errison
Junior obviously could be a big answer to that. And yes,
he did say he pays attention to what Malik neighbors
Brian Thomas Junior and Lad mcconkee did last year the
three receivers drafted after him, so plenty of motivation for
(36:18):
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Speaker 3 (36:42):
Cragged down by Kalais Campbell, sack at the eighteen. It
was Kalaias Campbell there first sack by Campbell at midvale.
Kalais having a day feeling pressure. Heading sack at the
thirty five by Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Screen to the left. That's picked up by Campbell the
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He is Campbell read bad play. That is an all
pro play by an all Pro player.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Hen sacked at the fifteen yard line by Kalis Campbell.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Sacked again.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Kalaias Campbell was there, sacked again at the twenty eight
yard line, and it's Kaleis Campbell.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's good energy by Dave Pash right there. Kalayas getting
the best out of the Voice of the Cardinals right there.
How about Kaleis Campbell, the one time longtime host of
The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert
We are santan Ford, Paul Calvic Ron woldefully in the
return of the six time Pro bowler. Wolf a member
of the NFL All Decade Team of the twenty Tens,
(37:40):
twenty nineteen Walter Payton Man of the Year. We're talking
the entire league, a guy who has over one hundred
and ten career sacks. He played in Super Bowl forty
three for the Cardinals as a rookie, and he's entering
season number eighteen.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Truly incredible and one of the guys that I cannot
wait in this defense right now, there's this defense Polly
is going to be full of surprises. And how you
have Nick Rowlis using these players, all these different guys,
not only the defensive lineman but everybody like Buddha Baker
and moving them around of course, and Rabbit as well,
(38:18):
And how much he's going to be involved in Garrett Williams,
where is he going to be lined up? What are
his responsibilities going to be? And Kalais Campbell, where is
he going to have Kalais Campbell playing. Is it going
to be the five technique outside shoulder of an offensive tackle?
Is it going to be that three technique? I think
it's going to be a lot of that three technique
(38:39):
outside shoulder of a guard, a four I where you're
lined up on the inside eye of that offensive tackle.
Where is he going to play? I don't know, but
I know that he's going to play an awful lot
and Kalais Campbell is going to change this defense. He's
a wild card.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
And don't forget he can still play.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
He can still play.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Just ask him. He has started all seventeen games each
of the last two years. And Cardinals coaches will tell
you he was a problem in Miami when he was
playing for the Dolphins. Fact, the Cardinals flight out tried
to trade for him right before the deadline, couldn't get
a done minam. He didn't want to give him up.
So there's all that, and then there's the perspective he brings.
In fact, here's Jonathan Gannon talking about Kaleis Campbell, a.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Guy that does it the right way, that has seen
it done a lot of different ways because he's been
with different teams that's a cool perspective for me. Definitely
lean on his expertise, but I think where it's most
going to show up is in that D line room
because he brings a lot of experience to that room
and he can help those guys. I tell people all
(39:44):
the time, like, you want to learn football, talk to
the players. They have the best perspective.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Players, no players. Here's the little anecdote right after practice
today mac Wilson Senior talking to the media where he
told everyone, Yep, I'm the mic linebacker. I have the
green dotting and be calling the defense. He said. In fact,
Amble came up to me during practice said hey, I
got to bark out that audible that check a little louder.
It's got to echo through the entire defense. And mac
(40:09):
Wilson Senior said, I've never called a defense like that,
because yes, okay, I got you, I got you, kalais.
So it's interesting how little things like that, not just
necessarily with the D lineman, because it's obvious he's going
to be a big help with Darius Robinson and Walter
Nolan the third, even Dante Stills as young, but there's
other things that he knows is critical for any defense
to function all eleven in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You know, to some degree, Paully, it's like parenting for
the most part, you know there you grow up. Of
course in your parents, they parent you a certain way.
Many times we learn from our parents this is what
we're going to do. But we also learn from our parents.
I'm not going to do that when I'm a parent, right,
I mean this, And this is the thing that I
(40:51):
think JG is kind of alluding to as well, the
perspective of Kalais Campbell and the fact that he can say,
how did you like that? How do you like this?
How do you like the fact we do this? And
maybe Kalais, who's been in the league a long long time,
might say, well, you know what, I'd do it a
different way. Here's how we used to do it here,
you know, whatever it may be. So many times it's
(41:12):
not only what you should do, it's also what not
to do that I think a guy like Kalaias can
actually advise on.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Well, think about how many times on his weekly TV
show Wolf, which we posted for years, that Jagas said
he runs things past James Connor, runs things past Voda Baker. Yes,
before he then announces them to the entire team.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I would imagine kalaias Campbell is going to be
thrown into that.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Mex no doubt. In fact, here's Kalais when he was asked,
all right, you know, because there's a lot made of
him being a coach on the field, but he said,
once again, he can still play.
Speaker 12 (41:44):
I think I take a lot of pride and still
being like an elite player, you know, in moments, you know,
I feel like, you know, no matter who it is,
I would love to go up against the best of
them and still be able to throw them around and
beat him, you know. And as a team, like you know,
I'm trying to understand the schemes and you know what
teams are trying to do to beat us, you know
what our weaknesses are and all that stuff, and be
(42:05):
able to help the coaches echo that to the players
and understand, like, you know, how we can take advantage
of it on the field. And so you know, I've
tried to become like a coach on the field a
lot of times over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Once again, Cardinals have a couple of early season division
games right Niners Week three f Seattle week four. I
just would love to see the look on the faces
some of those division rivals when they're looking at film
of the Cardinals revamped, new an improved defensive line, including
Kalais Campbell. I mean, it is night and day from
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, no, it is. And one of the things about
Kalais which is so good too, is how many times
he gets his hands on a pig. How many times
the pass defense by Kalais Campbell a batted ball at
the line of scrimmage. That's one of the reasons why
they like to line them up on the tackle position
as well, because many times he will come inside, whether
(42:55):
he's running a game or not. He also will come
inside many times with a three technique as well, over
the outside shoulder of the guard. He's right there in
the gap and right there in the passing lane. And
he's a very very smart player, and because of that,
he is alert. He is aware. He knows the down
in distance. He knows exactly what they might try. Maybe
(43:17):
they were they with a quick pass, Maybe this is
where they'll call that play, and he's looking for that.
I will promise you that Kalaius knows what three the
percentages might be in getting the ball out quickly and
when to look for it.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
The number a year ago was nine. The Cardinals is
a defense, had nine interceptions. Yeah, that's why earlier this
offseason it was a bit of a hot take, but
I did predict the Cardinals will double that number to
eighteen interceptions this year, just based on the defensive line,
the defensive front, okay, affecting the quarterback, getting to the
quarterback tip balls okay. Also, I mean, like, look, you
(43:53):
got Will Johnson, who has incredible instincts. If he's that
guy at corner. We know Max Melton is really poised
to take a leap in year two. Jalen Thompson in
a contract year, Buddha Baker, I think it's gonna be
flying around more than ever. I could easily see this
defense double the number of interceptions they had from a
year ago. Is that outlandish?
Speaker 1 (44:13):
No, I don't think so at all. I think you're
right on Polly when you take that ability to get
to the quarterback, force him to throw the ball early,
and then you've got those guys in the secondary Right now, man,
I'm thinking about it, Garret Williams, Max Melton, and then
Will Johnson Are you kidding me? That could be? You
could start those three corners. They could possibly start those
(44:37):
three corners.
Speaker 12 (44:38):
Men?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Are they young?
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Speaking of ballhawks, up aout a quick shout out to Tyron.
Matthew called it a career. This man one of our
all time favorite Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I mean, I just we love you.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
All time playmaker and maybe future Hall of Famer. We'll
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