October 7, 2025 • 32 mins
Derek, Dave, and DJ are back after an early bye week to breakdown a MASSIVE matchup with the Buffalo Bills on Monday night football. From how to slow down Josh Allen and Buffalo's high powered offense to what the Falcons can do offensively to take advantage of the Bills' struggling run defense, the guys break it all down from the players' and coach's point of view. They finish off with their favorite game describing how the Falcons can beat the Bills in only 3 words.
0:00 - Intro
1:40 - Who are the Buffalo Bills?
5:25 - Buffalo's explosive offense
9:42 - Bills' defense & the turnover battle
15:30 - Most important matchup
25:40 - 3 words to beat the bills
29:25 - Arch's bone to pick & Outro
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The bye week is officially completed, and we are back
here on the fact that is audible presented by AT
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's DJ Shockley, that's Stage Dave Archer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I am Derek Rackley, and we are back and fellas,
I hope you guys are ready to be back because
we got what they call thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Weeks of football grind and uh arch.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We talked the little bit about this last week before
going to the bye week. You were saying that this,
this this timing is not necessarily a deal for the
bye but guess what you got to play with the
cards that you are dealt So when the NFL tells
you your bye week, you just deal with it and
you move on. Uh So, not only is it gonna
be thirteen weeks, it's gonna be uh we got some
(01:20):
short weeks in there, We got some primetime, We got
an international game that gonna have to come back and
saddle back up right afterwards. H But you know what
they say about excuses in the NFL, at least what
I say anybody, Yeah, everybody got one and are you
gonna win? Create excuses as to why you didn't. So
we here to talk about how the Falcons get another
dub and it's gonna be in prime time. Not only
(01:42):
they have bye week, not only that it's a red
helmet week, but it's prime time week. As Arch has
got he's got the best you can do with red
helmet right now without looking like a weird ol.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Okay, come in with my helmet on it like they
got what is this? What is this? Guy?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Nah? I think youacked to go? I'd be all four Yeah, absolutely, OK.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know what though that might be kind of fire
like if we did a whole podcast with the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I don't think we can get shocked. In a helmet and.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know. I think it's still sliding.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I bet he can't get his actual helvet.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, I have seen some dudes out here and flying
Brands was meling, so I know my head.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, we'll find something.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, fellas. So without a game to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Recap from last week, all we get to do here
is talk about the game on the slate for this week,
which of course is the Buffalo Bills coming to town.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right, so Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But you know what, before I just go ahead and
get on it and tell you guys, why don't you
DJ start us off by telling the folks a little
bit about the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills and where
they're at right now and kind of what Atlanta is
going to see with them.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, recently, they were the only undefeated team left in
the National Football obviously, just lost their last ball game
prime time against the New England Patriots. Obviously, the biggest
topic of conversation is the guy that plays quarterback at
number seventeen and Josh Allen MVP does it all for
their offense, mister everything. When you think about top players
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in his league, he is one of those guys that's
in that's mentioned in top five. Obviously a team that
is used to win, a team that used to playing
some really good football. You got a lot of really
good players, especially on the offense side of the ball.
One of them is my fellow Georgia Bulldog and James Cook,
who obviously can do it and hurts you in multiple
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ways out the backfield. I mean, he's got five touchdowns
on the year, he set a Bill's record for consecutive
games with touchdowns. But I think it all boils down
to the guy that's obviously playing quarterback in Josh Allen.
You got some guys on the outside, Ken Coleman, Josh Palmer,
who really good receivers on the outside, Dalton Kk the
tight end. You got some really good, complimented weapons. Now,
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don't don't be surprised you just say, all right, Josh Allen.
It's a lot of other pieces that adds to it.
Only on this football team. Defensively, oh, I let archs
go defense. But offensively, I just think this is a
team that obviously leads the league in points per game.
They can move to football with the best of them,
And for me, it comes down to containing the second play.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Of Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We know how good he is inside the pocket he
throws it, but I think it's that extra play that
he's heard a lot of teams with and he's done
it throughout his entire career, regardless of who he's playing,
and he's not afraid to take those chances. So it's
going to be all hands on deck this ball game,
trying to contain I'm seventeen.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Fellas, this Isn't that what's kind of interesting about I
guess you could probably say this was the same back
when we were playing Shock. Maybe it was back in
the same when you were playing Arch, but it was.
It seems like now the focus is, or when you
feel really stretched, is the guys that have been really
good at extending plays right, the Josh Allen's, the Patrick
Mahomes saw that last night. Baker Mayfield has done this right.
(05:05):
Jaden Daniels has done this right. The guys that are
slippery and they do just a good enough job to
keep the play alive, but then they're disciplined enough to
keep their eyes down field.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Does the Trevor Lawrence touchdown last night? Consider extending plays?
Falling down? Falling down again?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Gymnastics before you get it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, so you laid it out right, DJ, I mean,
Josh Allen is one of the most difficult challenges to
face right now in a National Football League reigning MVP,
and I think you nailed the two arch. Would you
agree that this skill position group around Josh Allen, I
think is solid, but it's not to the point to
where it's like, I don't think they have a Justin Jefferson.
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I don't think they have a Mike Evans. They've just
got like five guys that are all just really good
and they all just play their part. Right. You mentioned
Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid and Khalil Shakir and Dawson
Knox and Cook coming out of the backfield. It just
seems like everybody kind of gets into this. It's not
like one guy you have to look at and he's like, well,
this guy's gonna go for ten, one thirty if you're
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not careful. It's like everybody's kind of like five catches
sixty five yards, but you'd never know who it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, it's a blue collar group, right, It's a group
that kind of throw their hat in the ring.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And say hey, I'm here to do my part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Kin Ka did have over one hundred yard receiving against
New England the tight end, which tells you, I mean,
how often do you see tight ends go for over
one hundred yards?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But so he has the capabilities of doing that. We know,
Shakir's a big play guy. Coleman's a fifty to fifty
monster that they drafted out of Florida State. I think
that it centers around what they want to do in
the running game. I think they would like to have
a presence in the running game. Cook has been that guy.
He was held to just forty nine yards rushing this
last weekend by New England. He had previously had three
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consecutive hundred yard games for Buffalo. So they had centered
kind of their time of possession. They're the number one
team in the National Football League in time of possession.
The number two team in the National Football League and
time of possession the Atlanta Falcons. So now you're talking
about two pulling against one another. I think that's the
key for me. And I know we'll get into some
keys and stuff like that, but initially, how do you
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keep them from possessing the football. Atlanta's possessing the football
at about thirty three minutes a game. Buffalo is at
like thirty four minutes a game. So both teams can
hold onto the football, convert on third down, kind of
grind you down as you get into the fourth quarter.
I think that's part of what they do. Their quarterback
is a big part of that grind mill if you will,
at six foot five, three hundred and forty pounds or
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two hundred and forty pounds. But I'm not talking about
Jey Lorenzo. Almost with battleship Lorenzo. But when you begin
to think about what they do from a run game standpoint,
just staying with their offensive side of the ball here
for a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
He is looking.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It's a different kind of run game. And I agree
with you in his ability to buy time. We saw
it against New England where you'd float behind in the pocket.
He's not looking to take off. He's looking for those
deep crossing routes and hit guys on.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
But when you.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Rush four at him, he is looking to run out
of that.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Look.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
If you drop into zone or man doesn't matter and
you just rush four, that's a run opportunity for him
that he's he's not he's thinking of it as part
of their run game. So Cook is the runner, and
they'll mix in some other guys, but Cook's their main runner.
But he's that secondary guy that if you just rush
four and you drop off, he's gonna take off and
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it's and it's actually almost like a called run for him,
even though it's not. You're not saying, hey, QB run
here or QB draw, but he's looking for that matchup
up front where if you just bring four, he's gonna
take off and go get him five or six and
if you miss a tackle, which at six, five, two forty,
you're going to miss some on him. All of a sudden,
now it's ten or twelve, and then you look up
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and they've had the ball for eight minutes. And that's
that's the battle you're fighting with them, is their ability
to possess the football, and he's a big part of that,
just grabbing that five or six yards that he can
grab if it's a if it's one of those four
man pass rushers. That's something that I'll be looking at
pretty heavily is to how do you keep him from
doing that secondary piece that Shock's talking about, even though
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it's almost kind of a primary piece to what they
want to do in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, and I think one thing you could look at
Buffalo and say and give him a lot of credit
for how they've constructed this roster. There's a reason why
they continue to go deep in the postseason is they've
invested assets in front of Josh Allen. You look at
their offensive line and they've got some dudes up front
that are playing in a really high level, some big
boys up there, and they've realized that keeping Josh Allen
clean and upright is going to give them one of
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their best avenues to success when you have got somebody
that's as talented as him. So we've talked a lot
about the offense, guys, let's flip it over and talk
a little bit about the Buffalo defense because statistically, really
good against the pass, not so great against the run. Well,
what does Atlanta do really well? They run the football right.
So immediately Shock, you think about, Okay, does this have
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to be a game plan where Atlanta runs the football? Well,
guess what, I'd probably say that every single game Atlanta
falcons right. But trying to find ways to exploit that. Now,
New England didn't necessarily run the football great the other night.
They did have a couple of rushing touchdowns, but that's
an area that Atlanta is still gonna have to attack
and try to have some big success.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, no doubt about it, because I think this offense,
similar to what Arsener has talked about with Buffalo, is
predicated on being able to run the football, especially run
football in the times where you need to because this
offense has a lot of play action to it. Love
to move Michael around a little bit, you know, use
a play action stretches home. So you have to be
able to run the football to keep my defense honest
in those situations when you're thinking about going play action.
(10:34):
So running football is a big part of what the
Fouler's gonna do. Yeah, they're gonna go. They're gonna be
a part of it. Greg Russo on the outside is
a problem. He is a guy that can do a
lot of different things on the outside when it comes
to rushing the passer. He's really good in the run
game as well. It's gonna be interesting how you know,
you're talking about how you strategize versus certain guys here's
one guy that you know, you gotta make sure you
know where he's at because he can rehab it. Shaq Thompson.
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We've seen him. It's time to Carolina. Butnars another line
back that are downhilled or athletic. They get after you.
This is defense got thirteen sacks, eight forced funnels, and
twenty six tackles for loss coming into this ballgame, So
it tells you they play on the other side of
a line of scrimmage and they're about getting the football
out and it's gonna be imperative. Like we mentioned that,
we were able to run the football, but they were
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sustaining those drives and be really good.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
They held.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
They held the Patriots to three of nine on third down.
That's winning football for them to get off the field
and more possessions for their offense put more pressure on you.
So yeah, this defense is one that's you know, haven't
been up to par when it comes to stopping the run,
but this still is a really good defense that wants
to get after you and get the ball back to
their offense.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Archie talked about the defense like taking the football away
and that was one thing that kind of stuck out
to me in the game the other night with Buffalo
is uncharacteristically coughed the football up a couple of times,
and I think if you watch the game, I think
you saw that that was kind of a turning point
that I think gave them, gave New England a little
bit more confidence. But if you look at all the
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stats from the game, you're going to see that Buffalo
basically won every stat category except the turnover margin. And
we talk about it all the time how important turnovers
are in the National Football League. But it was like
Buffalo threw for more, they ran for more, they had
better thurn down conversions, but they ended up losing the game. Right,
So it's like sometimes it goes back to some of
the most elementary things March is can Atlanta end up
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winning the turnover margin? Can they limit it? Can they
protect it on offense? And can they find way to
steal possessions away like the Patriots did.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, Buffalo had come in winning the game against New
England to turn the ball over one time.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
They turned it over three.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Times in the New England game lost that battle three
to one. Now Buffalo hasn't taken the ball away a
great deal either. They only have five takeaways on the year.
That's something they've kind of prided themselves on, is stealing
the ball from you. At Shock was talking about their
time of possession was up in that thirty four minute range,
so it kind of reflects what you're talking about. They
controlled the football game, just didn't take care of those
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little things like securing the foot football and then cashing
in their opportunities in.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
The red zone.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
When you look at Buffalo from a defensive side standpoint,
some of the things that have hampered them. And whenever
you see a team that's really good against the pass,
usually they're not very good against the run because people
aren't throwing the ball on them, they're running. And that's
what's happened in New England since the week happened to
the Buffalo since the opening weekend. At Oliver, one of
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their main guys in the interior who had such a
good game against Baltimore in that opening day game, had
an ankle injury and he has not played. There is
a chance that Oliver will play in the game Monday night.
He was questionable to play last weekend. They held him out,
so he will be a guy that probably is back
in the lineup. They've got some name brand guys. Matt
Mulano at say that the linebacker spot is banged up.
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Looks like he's got a peck injury, may not go.
So they've got some question marks about their defense from
a personnel standpoint that I think has affected some of
the numbers a little bit. This is normally a pretty
stout and pretty good defense, so it'd be interesting to
see what they do there. They're kind of down to
their third corner on the outside as well, with some
guys banged up. So that's what happens in this league. Hey,
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you got to play with who you got. But I
do think it's going to come back to can you
be efficient? And even though the numbers were skewed towards Buffalo,
if you look at Drake May's game, he was very
efficient throwing the football. I think that that's something that
excuse me, Pennis is going to have to do in
this game is get some first downs on second down.
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You know, you talked about three for nine on third down.
Find yourselves in more manageable situations where maybe fourth down
is an option. You know, that'll lend itself to more
time of possession. Now, That's something both these teams have
done well is keep themselves in manageable situations where the
coach and say, yeah, let's go for that on fourth down,
or hey, we're close enough to where we have a
mix of run and pass on third down. Really going
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to be interesting to see that kind of the chess
game that the two coaching stats play, because I think
these teams are similar in the way they want to play.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Arch give a little context to Drake May twenty two
of thirty that's seventy three and seventy three yards. He
had no touchdowns, but they also had no interceptions, right,
So that's important when you're playing against Buffalo and playing
in primetime, is how well can your quarterback protect the
football do you not give it away? And that's what
Drake made did, and I think that's part of the
reason why people are saying that things are kind of
shaping up a little bit for the Patriots because of
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the way that their quarterback is playing, much like for
the Atlanta Falcons. Now, I'm going to give you guys
a scenario here, and I'm going to go first to
give you guys a little bit of time to think
about it, because I think I went a little bit
off script here, but I'm talking about a matchup. Okay,
So a player against a player, or a position group
against a position group, or position group against a player,
or whatever you guys want to do it that you
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think is going to be really important in this game.
All right, And I'm going to start because I threw
this out and give you guys a little bit more
time to think. But I'm going to go with Divine
Diablo and Caden Ellis and how they're able to defend
Josh Allen if he's extending plays or to your point, arch,
if he decides to tuck it down and run with it.
He got two linebackers for the Atlanta Falcons. I know
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I'm still gonna call Kaden Ellis a linebacker because we
know that he's kind of a hybrid player. Is gonna
rush the passer, but that run extremely well, and that
are tackling machines, and they're gonna have to bring their lunch, Paal.
As you mentioned mentioned because Josh Allen is a quarterback,
he breaks a lot of tackles, right he if you
come at him with an arm, he's gonna run through it.
He's not necessarily the guy that's looking to slide down
or dive down, he realizes that he's got an advantage sometimes.
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But those two guys I think are going to be important.
So Josh Allen doesn't control the pace of the game offensively,
much like I think Atlanta needs to control the pace
of the game on offense. Josh Allen can do that
with the decisions that he makes. But if Divine Diablo
Caden Ellis can, those guys can. Whether or not Jeff
Obrich decides to do any spying or you know, putting
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a linebacker and kind of keeping their eye on Josh
Allen all the time, I don't know, but I think
those two guys could have a really big impact on
whether or not they kind of keep him caged up.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Let me throw this back at you when you think
when you think about Josh Shell in this ball game
and you think about trying to contain him, does Jeff
Albrook change the way he calls the game or does
they go about strategizing how they've rushed the passer? You
see what I'm saying, Because yeah, okay, you rush four
and there's times where okay, we want to rush, but
we want to see So does that take away from
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your aggressiveness if Okay, I'm rushing to make sure he
doesn't get outside the pocket, or am I still being
my same aggressive stef to goe able to feel and
try to put pressure on.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think to answer your question, I think when you
say change what you do is to me, that's like
you're getting completely outside of your element and that's not
the right thing. But as we know, each and every week,
you game plan right, you strategize and find what's the
best way for us to create an advantage, whether it's
a one on one matchup, whether it's a you know,
we used to run this defense against this personnel, but
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that's not going to work against Buffalo the way that
they try to attack right. To me, that's how the
National Football League is. It's every week you look at
a new call sheet and you find out, Okay, what
how do we attack Buffalo, how do we attack the run,
how do we attack Josh Allen and all these different
pieces that he gets involved in the game plan, and
how do we do that to our strengths from a
personnel perspective. So I do think they change it a
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little bit, but I think it's just a scheme and
how Jeff Ulbrick thinks he's got the best advantage to
slow them down offensively.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It just brings the mind arch you talked about it earlier.
When you get a four down rush and he automatically thinks, okay,
I can take off, And in my mind, I'm like, Okay,
if that's the process he goes through, do you change
how you rush him as opposed to just get up.
It don't take but one guy to get out of
his rush lane and then boom, he picks up seventy
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eight yards on first down and you're behind the chains.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I think we're still trying to figure that out though
as a group, But I don't think that we've we've
solved that puzzle, regardless who the quarterback is. And now
all sading you've got a guy that is, yes, can
move around, but now he's difficult to get on the ground.
It's one thing, you know, he's as big as a
defense even the two the two young guys that we drafted,
they're the same, sigh shot. In fact, he might even
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be bigger than Jalen Walker is. So when they come in,
they better to bring all their pads and everything they've
got to put him on the ground because he's gonna
shrug guys off, and then all of a sudden it's
a problem. So that's an issue. I think that Olbrich
is gonna I think he has to switch it up.
I think you're exactly right. I think there's there's going
to be some four man rush. I think Atlanta has
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kind of settled into where they want to play a
little bit of man coverage and come with more than
you can block. Sometime maybe the five man rush man
everybody up up front, where you jump down into kind
of a bare look in the middle and you flip
Kaden Ellis to the outside, and now five are coming,
and now it is paramount that divine diablo you talked
about is patrol in the middle. From a matchup standpoint,
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for me, I'll flip it over. Then that's obviously maybe
one of the main ones. I think you're right on Rack.
What does Sean McDermott do with the Bejon Robinson factor,
the matrix factor factor, Eskape, How do you play him
because of what Zach has done from a design standpoint,
to put Aljier in the backfield and now all of
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a sudden he's not the featured runner. He's now one
of your featured receivers. How are you handling that? Are
you manning him up? Terrell Bernard is not going to
be able to man I love the linebacker, a Baylor
great player, He's not going to be able to run
with the John Robinson. So how are you going to
do that? And then do you concentrate so much on
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trying to take number seven away? Oh, by the way,
number five is a problem. Number eight's a problem. So
they've got some real work to do. Buffalo up there
this week in trying to what are we going to
do with stack looks? Because when I look at them
on tape, they used to kind of be an umbrella coverage.
They're playing a lot of single high stuff. Well we
just saw a single high group and you shredded him. Okay,
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so what are we going to do with that? You know,
as far as how do we take care of these matchups?
How do we switch things off? Because Washington tried to
do that and it didn't work. So are you going
to go back to the if you go back to
the umbrella? Now, all of a sudden, here comes the
bowling ball of razor blades and the matrix at you,
So what are you gonna do there? So I think
there's a real problem. Yes, we got a problem of
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trying to figure out what we're gonna do with Josh
Allen and James Cook. I think those are the two
featured guys. They've got a problem in the Buffalo this
week trying to get ready for this greup.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean shock.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You got to know that they're gonna put on the
tape and they're gonna watch Vijon making people miss in
every which way and form right, whether it's in the
passing game, whether it's in the run game, whether it's
an open field, whether it's between the tackles and it
looks like they've got him and he slips out right.
So it's one of those deals where not only is
was it good for Atlanta to get a win against Washington,
but there was a lot of tape out there from
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that game to whether they like, all right, we're gonna
have our hands full. I want to make sure you
have your chance to give what your matchup is. What
are you looking at? That's gonna be kind of really
interesting to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I love both of you guys matchups, and I think
it's gonna be huge in the ballgame and ultimately when
we come back next week, probably talking about both of
those scenarios we're talking about. The other part is what
we you know, kind of similar already discussed about. You know,
the Bills and their tight ends. Billy Bowman. We know
how good he has been for us over the first
few weeks. Now you got another premiere tight end and
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averaging you know, fourteen yards of reception. And as quarterbacks,
we know that tight end is usually somewhere in your
eye sight you started to move, or he's probably gonna
be in your first or second in your progression. Can
Billy have a day against their tight end? That takes
away one of those things that we talked about. Okay,
you got James Cook out here, you got Josh. Can
you not have him have three things that can go?
(22:35):
And if he can do that, I think we got
a good chance. But it's gonna be fun to see
Billy have another opportunity to go against another you know,
big time player like a kink in this ballgame, who
is obviously one of Josh Allen's you know, kind of
safety valves.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
If you want to say.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
For him, would you say that this is a step
up shock He saw Hockinson in week two, but Hockinson,
maybe not necessarily athletically what Kenkate is seems to have
a little bit more shake to him, a little bit
to a certain extent, didn't really he didn't see Aughten
in week one, so maybe the most difficult matchup he's
(23:09):
seen so far.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Man, I think it's probably the most difficult because of
the guy who can give him the football. You think
about J. J McCarthy in that game. Obviously he was
coming off a big game previously, but he was still
trying to find his way within that offense, and we
put a leugh pressure on him that him under to
you know, have some issues. So I think absolutely because
of who he is for one, and you talk about
his ability, but also how creative that guy is number seventeen,
(23:34):
to try to get him the football and put him
in positions to go win, and I think they will
draw some things up where they want to match that
up and try to go get him the football.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Tell me how many times you guys see Allen throw
the ball on time? That's a very off schedule quarterbackll
It's what you were talking about his ability and you
were talking about that second piece of the play. It
almost feels like that if you can keep him in
that mode where it's a second you know he's got
to hold it, then maybe it is in one of
(24:04):
those kind of deals like you got in Minnesota, where
you can get after him a little bit more. Now
you gotta get him on the ground. We talked about
it difficult to get on the ground. But he does
seem to be like that secondary throw guy where he
moves in the pocket. Now I got that shot at
that overwrap. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like the
speed out boom the ball comes out. You just don't
see that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, it seems like he holds the football. I
saw that a lot too when I was watching Mahomes
the other night. Dude, It's like it's like most of
his biggest completions come out when he starts scrambling, and
it either it's just an extension or his turn his
receivers turned into scramble drone, somebody's wide open. I mean,
he ended up making that one throw the other night,
jumping up in the air, and I was just like,
what was that?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
But that's the vintage Mahomes, right that's.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
It's a great example of like Arch mentioned earlier, when
you rush four and you have a guy like that,
you can literally watch him in the pocket and he bounce, bounce, bounce,
and he's looking for that small little avenue to escape.
And then it's like, okay, now the play begins. I'm
looking for to throw the football down the field. And
to be honest, they can use their legs to run,
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but they want that shot down field. They want to
throw it, so it's gonna be get interest.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
You can see how we go.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
About trying to play these guys, especially within the pocket,
and when a guy doesn't want to be on schedule, well, to.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Your point too about the workman like, kind of put
your hard heat on, just do your job. It seems
like they understand that piece. I think there's a synergy
among Shakir and ken Kate. Hey, my guy is gonna
buy time, So I'm gonna get to a dead spot
somewhere myself, give him somebody somewhere to throw it.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm throwing up the threes here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Okay, you know what the threes are is not for
a field goal, right, We're not talking about having field goals.
This is our our game that we need to get
some music like, right, So here's our three words. Okay,
what do the Atlanta Falcons need to do to beat
the Buffalo Bills in three words?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I made one up the other night, but the emphasis
is on three words, and they're telling me regular English
vernacular words.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay, So what do the Atlanta Falcons need to do
to beat the Buffalo Bills in three words?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'm gonna use the same words you're using, six, not three.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
It was a game where you gotta score to you like.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
I had to think about it for a second. Yeah,
one right down.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
The only nobody need to explain. But yeah, I think
it's a game where obviously we know their ability to
score points. We can't be in a they score touchdown,
we go down and get a field goal. It has
to be touchdowns in the red zone to even want
to put pressure on their office to come back and respond,
but even for us to just to have that confidence.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
So I like six. I love that. That might be
your best one. He loves it. He loves that might
be that might be your best one. Go ahead, man,
sit down, you don't mean you relax now you nail.
Aren't you on.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The hot seatow that?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
All right? So yeah, that one, that one's tough to top.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm gonna go limit Allen effect, okay, And and there's
multiple ways to go to limiting. Limiting the Allen effect
would be okay, I can do that with my offense.
We talked about what we need to do defensive Gotta
tackle well, gotta get him on the ground, make sure
he can't find those little creases to go get eight
(27:33):
fifteen whatever he does from rush game standpoint. But we
can do that with the offense too if we limit
how much he's on the field. Remember, I don't know
if you remember the interview that mcdermick does coming off
the field against New England. He talked about we got
to get in a rhythm. We're not in a rhythm
on offense. How do you affect the rhythm offensively? Don't
let him be on the field. And can can Michael
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and his group on the offensive side either make big
plays and rest them by scoring points and maybe change
how they want to attack our defense, or can you
just simply simply stay on the field And all of
a sudden he looks up and wow, I only got
four possessions in the first half. Only got three possessions
in the first half. You know, that's the way of
limiting the Allen effect.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
You got a double.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Double meaning on that way, which which which kind of
like it kind of like I'm hurt, my hurt feelings
hurt a little bit. It's also it's also like it
was a good segue because my three words were possess
the rocky okay.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And I'm thinking on the same wavelength as you. It's
a little sad because you kind of took it, but
but we're thinking along the same wavelength.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Is that when I was thinking about this game, and
I even wrote it down in my notes for one
of my keys, we're kind of like going through keys
if you will, was how do you limit Alan and
what he can do is you stay on the field offensively.
This cannot be a game with a bunch of three
and outs. When you get three plays, you punt it.
And then now we get to watch Josh Allen what
he gets, what he's done in primetime throughout the course
of his career. This is gets possess the football put
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together to long drives and this could just be like
we could just do all this possess the rock limit,
the Allen effect, and then six not three.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, we do all those things, we get a w
We have a pretty good shape. We have a pretty
good shape right there.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I think that's pretty good, guys, Pretty good little summary
of the Buffalo Bills, the matchup coming up this week.
We could go into Keys and all that stuff. But
here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
If we go into Keys, this show's gonna end up
being another fifteen minutes. I can just tell you right now. Okay,
So we're gonna go ahead and leave it there.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Falcon's coming off of a bye week, very important week
for them to not only get this, the rest of
this season kicked off on the right note. But you've
got a talented opponent coming into your own house in Prompton.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Can I ask you, guys, this is something that is
driving me crazy that I keep hearing. Ok and it's
more of a sports talk kind of fodder, if you will, boy,
Buffalo winning losing last week is really gonna be a
problem for the Falcons because they're going to become it
come in mad. I mean what over there have I've
(30:06):
ever heard something that's more fan orientated.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But we've got guys that are talking about, Oh boy,
I wish they'd won this week because they're really going
to come in mad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
This year, because I think that Atlanta would much rather
have a five and zero, hitting on all cylinders, feeling
the rhythm'm scoring forty.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Points a game, Buffalo Bills, Yeah, that's way.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Did you ever get consider.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They're questioning a whole bunch of stuff up there that
they did and trying to no, no, no, don't worry about.
There's a lot of things they're concentrated, not not to
mention the fact that they got to get ready for
this football team that's coming off. So maybe us coming
off a really good win is a bad thing for
that Just it's a scenario or a narrative that drives
me crazy that, oh, they're going to be more focused
(30:49):
this week. We only get seventeen of these, and each
one of them count to where you make the playoffs
or not.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
They're all extremely important.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, okay, they're not going to be coming here less
moated on Monday night football in front of the entire country.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Thank you, listen, This was kind of I pulled this
stat out.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm gonna leave you guys with this before we go
because and we don't have to talk about it because.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
In the NFL, they say that you are what your
record says you are. Right in the Buffalo Bills just
lost their first game.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They're four and one.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, However, did you guys know did you know that
their four wins the teams that they played are a
collective three and seventeen?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Did you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Ravens? What's going on with the Ravens? They can't play defense.
They're one and four.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The Jets are zero and five, they're going to rebuild.
The Dolphins are one and four struggling in the Saints
one and four rebuilt.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That's who they have bet so far this year. Collective.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah, but they're coming in seventeen about that?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, I'm not telling you, I'm not telling you that
means anything. I'm just telling you they've beat up on
teams that are not all that great. But in the NFL,
they always say you are what your record says you are. Okay,
And most people would take four and one at this
the season. So Atlanta Falcons got their work cut out
for him on Monday night. But guess what we could
say that every single week, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Got to make sure you're tuning in. Both these guys
are going to be on the call on Monday.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's right, so make sure on the Westwood one National
Radio call Arch obviously on the Falcons Radio network, and
Shock will.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Be inside the Stadium of NA.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
You know what I'm saying? All right?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well represented?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
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You guy can get chills a little bit thinking about
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome back, everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
The bye week is officially completed, and we are back
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's DJ Shockley, that's Stage Dave Archer.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I am Derek Rackley, and we are back and fellas,
I hope you guys are ready to be back because
we got what they call thirteen.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Weeks of football grind and uh arch.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We talked the little bit about this last week before
going to the bye week. You were saying that this,
this this timing is not necessarily a deal for the
bye but guess what you got to play with the
cards that you are dealt So when the NFL tells
you your bye week, you just deal with it and
you move on. Uh So, not only is it gonna
be thirteen weeks, it's gonna be uh we got some
(01:20):
short weeks in there, We got some primetime, We got
an international game that gonna have to come back and
saddle back up right afterwards. H But you know what
they say about excuses in the NFL, at least what
I say anybody, Yeah, everybody got one and are you
gonna win? Create excuses as to why you didn't. So
we here to talk about how the Falcons get another
dub and it's gonna be in prime time. Not only
(01:42):
they have bye week, not only that it's a red
helmet week, but it's prime time week. As Arch has
got he's got the best you can do with red
helmet right now without looking like a weird ol.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Okay, come in with my helmet on it like they
got what is this? What is this? Guy?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Nah? I think youacked to go? I'd be all four Yeah, absolutely, OK.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You know what though that might be kind of fire
like if we did a whole podcast with the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
I don't think we can get shocked. In a helmet and.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't know. I think it's still sliding.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I bet he can't get his actual helvet.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, I have seen some dudes out here and flying
Brands was meling, so I know my head.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, we'll find something.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, fellas. So without a game to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Recap from last week, all we get to do here
is talk about the game on the slate for this week,
which of course is the Buffalo Bills coming to town.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
All right, so Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
But you know what, before I just go ahead and
get on it and tell you guys, why don't you
DJ start us off by telling the folks a little
bit about the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bills and where
they're at right now and kind of what Atlanta is
going to see with them.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, recently, they were the only undefeated team left in
the National Football obviously, just lost their last ball game
prime time against the New England Patriots. Obviously, the biggest
topic of conversation is the guy that plays quarterback at
number seventeen and Josh Allen MVP does it all for
their offense, mister everything. When you think about top players
(03:15):
in his league, he is one of those guys that's
in that's mentioned in top five. Obviously a team that
is used to win, a team that used to playing
some really good football. You got a lot of really
good players, especially on the offense side of the ball.
One of them is my fellow Georgia Bulldog and James Cook,
who obviously can do it and hurts you in multiple
(03:35):
ways out the backfield. I mean, he's got five touchdowns
on the year, he set a Bill's record for consecutive
games with touchdowns. But I think it all boils down
to the guy that's obviously playing quarterback in Josh Allen.
You got some guys on the outside, Ken Coleman, Josh Palmer,
who really good receivers on the outside, Dalton Kk the
tight end. You got some really good, complimented weapons. Now,
(03:59):
don't don't be surprised you just say, all right, Josh Allen.
It's a lot of other pieces that adds to it.
Only on this football team. Defensively, oh, I let archs
go defense. But offensively, I just think this is a
team that obviously leads the league in points per game.
They can move to football with the best of them,
And for me, it comes down to containing the second play.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Of Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We know how good he is inside the pocket he
throws it, but I think it's that extra play that
he's heard a lot of teams with and he's done
it throughout his entire career, regardless of who he's playing,
and he's not afraid to take those chances. So it's
going to be all hands on deck this ball game,
trying to contain I'm seventeen.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Fellas, this Isn't that what's kind of interesting about I
guess you could probably say this was the same back
when we were playing Shock. Maybe it was back in
the same when you were playing Arch, but it was.
It seems like now the focus is, or when you
feel really stretched, is the guys that have been really
good at extending plays right, the Josh Allen's, the Patrick
Mahomes saw that last night. Baker Mayfield has done this right.
(05:05):
Jaden Daniels has done this right. The guys that are
slippery and they do just a good enough job to
keep the play alive, but then they're disciplined enough to
keep their eyes down field.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Does the Trevor Lawrence touchdown last night? Consider extending plays?
Falling down? Falling down again?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Gymnastics before you get it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, so you laid it out right, DJ, I mean,
Josh Allen is one of the most difficult challenges to
face right now in a National Football League reigning MVP,
and I think you nailed the two arch. Would you
agree that this skill position group around Josh Allen, I
think is solid, but it's not to the point to
where it's like, I don't think they have a Justin Jefferson.
(05:44):
I don't think they have a Mike Evans. They've just
got like five guys that are all just really good
and they all just play their part. Right. You mentioned
Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid and Khalil Shakir and Dawson
Knox and Cook coming out of the backfield. It just
seems like everybody kind of gets into this. It's not
like one guy you have to look at and he's like, well,
this guy's gonna go for ten, one thirty if you're
(06:04):
not careful. It's like everybody's kind of like five catches
sixty five yards, but you'd never know who it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah, it's a blue collar group, right, It's a group
that kind of throw their hat in the ring.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
And say hey, I'm here to do my part of it.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Kin Ka did have over one hundred yard receiving against
New England the tight end, which tells you, I mean,
how often do you see tight ends go for over
one hundred yards?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
You know?
Speaker 4 (06:24):
But so he has the capabilities of doing that. We know,
Shakir's a big play guy. Coleman's a fifty to fifty
monster that they drafted out of Florida State. I think
that it centers around what they want to do in
the running game. I think they would like to have
a presence in the running game. Cook has been that guy.
He was held to just forty nine yards rushing this
last weekend by New England. He had previously had three
(06:45):
consecutive hundred yard games for Buffalo. So they had centered
kind of their time of possession. They're the number one
team in the National Football League in time of possession.
The number two team in the National Football League and
time of possession the Atlanta Falcons. So now you're talking
about two pulling against one another. I think that's the
key for me. And I know we'll get into some
keys and stuff like that, but initially, how do you
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keep them from possessing the football. Atlanta's possessing the football
at about thirty three minutes a game. Buffalo is at
like thirty four minutes a game. So both teams can
hold onto the football, convert on third down, kind of
grind you down as you get into the fourth quarter.
I think that's part of what they do. Their quarterback
is a big part of that grind mill if you will,
at six foot five, three hundred and forty pounds or
(07:29):
two hundred and forty pounds. But I'm not talking about
Jey Lorenzo. Almost with battleship Lorenzo. But when you begin
to think about what they do from a run game standpoint,
just staying with their offensive side of the ball here
for a few minutes.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
He is looking.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
It's a different kind of run game. And I agree
with you in his ability to buy time. We saw
it against New England where you'd float behind in the pocket.
He's not looking to take off. He's looking for those
deep crossing routes and hit guys on.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
But when you.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Rush four at him, he is looking to run out
of that.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Look.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
If you drop into zone or man doesn't matter and
you just rush four, that's a run opportunity for him
that he's he's not he's thinking of it as part
of their run game. So Cook is the runner, and
they'll mix in some other guys, but Cook's their main runner.
But he's that secondary guy that if you just rush
four and you drop off, he's gonna take off and
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it's and it's actually almost like a called run for him,
even though it's not. You're not saying, hey, QB run
here or QB draw, but he's looking for that matchup
up front where if you just bring four, he's gonna
take off and go get him five or six and
if you miss a tackle, which at six, five, two forty,
you're going to miss some on him. All of a sudden,
now it's ten or twelve, and then you look up
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and they've had the ball for eight minutes. And that's
that's the battle you're fighting with them, is their ability
to possess the football, and he's a big part of that,
just grabbing that five or six yards that he can
grab if it's a if it's one of those four
man pass rushers. That's something that I'll be looking at
pretty heavily is to how do you keep him from
doing that secondary piece that Shock's talking about, even though
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it's almost kind of a primary piece to what they
want to do in the passing game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, and I think one thing you could look at
Buffalo and say and give him a lot of credit
for how they've constructed this roster. There's a reason why
they continue to go deep in the postseason is they've
invested assets in front of Josh Allen. You look at
their offensive line and they've got some dudes up front
that are playing in a really high level, some big
boys up there, and they've realized that keeping Josh Allen
clean and upright is going to give them one of
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their best avenues to success when you have got somebody
that's as talented as him. So we've talked a lot
about the offense, guys, let's flip it over and talk
a little bit about the Buffalo defense because statistically, really
good against the pass, not so great against the run. Well,
what does Atlanta do really well? They run the football right.
So immediately Shock, you think about, Okay, does this have
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to be a game plan where Atlanta runs the football? Well,
guess what, I'd probably say that every single game Atlanta
falcons right. But trying to find ways to exploit that. Now,
New England didn't necessarily run the football great the other night.
They did have a couple of rushing touchdowns, but that's
an area that Atlanta is still gonna have to attack
and try to have some big success.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah, no doubt about it, because I think this offense,
similar to what Arsener has talked about with Buffalo, is
predicated on being able to run the football, especially run
football in the times where you need to because this
offense has a lot of play action to it. Love
to move Michael around a little bit, you know, use
a play action stretches home. So you have to be
able to run the football to keep my defense honest
in those situations when you're thinking about going play action.
(10:34):
So running football is a big part of what the
Fouler's gonna do. Yeah, they're gonna go. They're gonna be
a part of it. Greg Russo on the outside is
a problem. He is a guy that can do a
lot of different things on the outside when it comes
to rushing the passer. He's really good in the run
game as well. It's gonna be interesting how you know,
you're talking about how you strategize versus certain guys here's
one guy that you know, you gotta make sure you
know where he's at because he can rehab it. Shaq Thompson.
(10:57):
We've seen him. It's time to Carolina. Butnars another line
back that are downhilled or athletic. They get after you.
This is defense got thirteen sacks, eight forced funnels, and
twenty six tackles for loss coming into this ballgame, So
it tells you they play on the other side of
a line of scrimmage and they're about getting the football
out and it's gonna be imperative. Like we mentioned that,
we were able to run the football, but they were
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sustaining those drives and be really good.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
They held.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
They held the Patriots to three of nine on third down.
That's winning football for them to get off the field
and more possessions for their offense put more pressure on you.
So yeah, this defense is one that's you know, haven't
been up to par when it comes to stopping the run,
but this still is a really good defense that wants
to get after you and get the ball back to
their offense.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Archie talked about the defense like taking the football away
and that was one thing that kind of stuck out
to me in the game the other night with Buffalo
is uncharacteristically coughed the football up a couple of times,
and I think if you watch the game, I think
you saw that that was kind of a turning point
that I think gave them, gave New England a little
bit more confidence. But if you look at all the
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stats from the game, you're going to see that Buffalo
basically won every stat category except the turnover margin. And
we talk about it all the time how important turnovers
are in the National Football League. But it was like
Buffalo threw for more, they ran for more, they had
better thurn down conversions, but they ended up losing the game. Right,
So it's like sometimes it goes back to some of
the most elementary things March is can Atlanta end up
(12:24):
winning the turnover margin? Can they limit it? Can they
protect it on offense? And can they find way to
steal possessions away like the Patriots did.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah, Buffalo had come in winning the game against New
England to turn the ball over one time.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
They turned it over three.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Times in the New England game lost that battle three
to one. Now Buffalo hasn't taken the ball away a
great deal either. They only have five takeaways on the year.
That's something they've kind of prided themselves on, is stealing
the ball from you. At Shock was talking about their
time of possession was up in that thirty four minute range,
so it kind of reflects what you're talking about. They
controlled the football game, just didn't take care of those
(12:58):
little things like securing the foot football and then cashing
in their opportunities in.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
The red zone.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
When you look at Buffalo from a defensive side standpoint,
some of the things that have hampered them. And whenever
you see a team that's really good against the pass,
usually they're not very good against the run because people
aren't throwing the ball on them, they're running. And that's
what's happened in New England since the week happened to
the Buffalo since the opening weekend. At Oliver, one of
(13:25):
their main guys in the interior who had such a
good game against Baltimore in that opening day game, had
an ankle injury and he has not played. There is
a chance that Oliver will play in the game Monday night.
He was questionable to play last weekend. They held him out,
so he will be a guy that probably is back
in the lineup. They've got some name brand guys. Matt
Mulano at say that the linebacker spot is banged up.
(13:46):
Looks like he's got a peck injury, may not go.
So they've got some question marks about their defense from
a personnel standpoint that I think has affected some of
the numbers a little bit. This is normally a pretty
stout and pretty good defense, so it'd be interesting to
see what they do there. They're kind of down to
their third corner on the outside as well, with some
guys banged up. So that's what happens in this league. Hey,
(14:08):
you got to play with who you got. But I
do think it's going to come back to can you
be efficient? And even though the numbers were skewed towards Buffalo,
if you look at Drake May's game, he was very
efficient throwing the football. I think that that's something that
excuse me, Pennis is going to have to do in
this game is get some first downs on second down.
(14:30):
You know, you talked about three for nine on third down.
Find yourselves in more manageable situations where maybe fourth down
is an option. You know, that'll lend itself to more
time of possession. Now, That's something both these teams have
done well is keep themselves in manageable situations where the
coach and say, yeah, let's go for that on fourth down,
or hey, we're close enough to where we have a
mix of run and pass on third down. Really going
(14:51):
to be interesting to see that kind of the chess
game that the two coaching stats play, because I think
these teams are similar in the way they want to play.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Arch give a little context to Drake May twenty two
of thirty that's seventy three and seventy three yards. He
had no touchdowns, but they also had no interceptions, right,
So that's important when you're playing against Buffalo and playing
in primetime, is how well can your quarterback protect the
football do you not give it away? And that's what
Drake made did, and I think that's part of the
reason why people are saying that things are kind of
shaping up a little bit for the Patriots because of
(15:21):
the way that their quarterback is playing, much like for
the Atlanta Falcons. Now, I'm going to give you guys
a scenario here, and I'm going to go first to
give you guys a little bit of time to think
about it, because I think I went a little bit
off script here, but I'm talking about a matchup. Okay,
So a player against a player, or a position group
against a position group, or position group against a player,
or whatever you guys want to do it that you
(15:42):
think is going to be really important in this game.
All right, And I'm going to start because I threw
this out and give you guys a little bit more
time to think. But I'm going to go with Divine
Diablo and Caden Ellis and how they're able to defend
Josh Allen if he's extending plays or to your point, arch,
if he decides to tuck it down and run with it.
He got two linebackers for the Atlanta Falcons. I know
(16:03):
I'm still gonna call Kaden Ellis a linebacker because we
know that he's kind of a hybrid player. Is gonna
rush the passer, but that run extremely well, and that
are tackling machines, and they're gonna have to bring their lunch, Paal.
As you mentioned mentioned because Josh Allen is a quarterback,
he breaks a lot of tackles, right he if you
come at him with an arm, he's gonna run through it.
He's not necessarily the guy that's looking to slide down
or dive down, he realizes that he's got an advantage sometimes.
(16:26):
But those two guys I think are going to be important.
So Josh Allen doesn't control the pace of the game offensively,
much like I think Atlanta needs to control the pace
of the game on offense. Josh Allen can do that
with the decisions that he makes. But if Divine Diablo
Caden Ellis can, those guys can. Whether or not Jeff
Obrich decides to do any spying or you know, putting
(16:47):
a linebacker and kind of keeping their eye on Josh
Allen all the time, I don't know, but I think
those two guys could have a really big impact on
whether or not they kind of keep him caged up.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Let me throw this back at you when you think
when you think about Josh Shell in this ball game
and you think about trying to contain him, does Jeff
Albrook change the way he calls the game or does
they go about strategizing how they've rushed the passer? You
see what I'm saying, Because yeah, okay, you rush four
and there's times where okay, we want to rush, but
we want to see So does that take away from
(17:18):
your aggressiveness if Okay, I'm rushing to make sure he
doesn't get outside the pocket, or am I still being
my same aggressive stef to goe able to feel and
try to put pressure on.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I think to answer your question, I think when you
say change what you do is to me, that's like
you're getting completely outside of your element and that's not
the right thing. But as we know, each and every week,
you game plan right, you strategize and find what's the
best way for us to create an advantage, whether it's
a one on one matchup, whether it's a you know,
we used to run this defense against this personnel, but
(17:48):
that's not going to work against Buffalo the way that
they try to attack right. To me, that's how the
National Football League is. It's every week you look at
a new call sheet and you find out, Okay, what
how do we attack Buffalo, how do we attack the run,
how do we attack Josh Allen and all these different
pieces that he gets involved in the game plan, and
how do we do that to our strengths from a
personnel perspective. So I do think they change it a
(18:10):
little bit, but I think it's just a scheme and
how Jeff Ulbrick thinks he's got the best advantage to
slow them down offensively.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It just brings the mind arch you talked about it earlier.
When you get a four down rush and he automatically thinks, okay,
I can take off, And in my mind, I'm like, Okay,
if that's the process he goes through, do you change
how you rush him as opposed to just get up.
It don't take but one guy to get out of
his rush lane and then boom, he picks up seventy
(18:37):
eight yards on first down and you're behind the chains.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I think we're still trying to figure that out though
as a group, But I don't think that we've we've
solved that puzzle, regardless who the quarterback is. And now
all sading you've got a guy that is, yes, can
move around, but now he's difficult to get on the ground.
It's one thing, you know, he's as big as a
defense even the two the two young guys that we drafted,
they're the same, sigh shot. In fact, he might even
(19:02):
be bigger than Jalen Walker is. So when they come in,
they better to bring all their pads and everything they've
got to put him on the ground because he's gonna
shrug guys off, and then all of a sudden it's
a problem. So that's an issue. I think that Olbrich
is gonna I think he has to switch it up.
I think you're exactly right. I think there's there's going
to be some four man rush. I think Atlanta has
(19:22):
kind of settled into where they want to play a
little bit of man coverage and come with more than
you can block. Sometime maybe the five man rush man
everybody up up front, where you jump down into kind
of a bare look in the middle and you flip
Kaden Ellis to the outside, and now five are coming,
and now it is paramount that divine diablo you talked
about is patrol in the middle. From a matchup standpoint,
(19:43):
for me, I'll flip it over. Then that's obviously maybe
one of the main ones. I think you're right on Rack.
What does Sean McDermott do with the Bejon Robinson factor,
the matrix factor factor, Eskape, How do you play him
because of what Zach has done from a design standpoint,
to put Aljier in the backfield and now all of
(20:04):
a sudden he's not the featured runner. He's now one
of your featured receivers. How are you handling that? Are
you manning him up? Terrell Bernard is not going to
be able to man I love the linebacker, a Baylor
great player, He's not going to be able to run
with the John Robinson. So how are you going to
do that? And then do you concentrate so much on
(20:25):
trying to take number seven away? Oh, by the way,
number five is a problem. Number eight's a problem. So
they've got some real work to do. Buffalo up there
this week in trying to what are we going to
do with stack looks? Because when I look at them
on tape, they used to kind of be an umbrella coverage.
They're playing a lot of single high stuff. Well we
just saw a single high group and you shredded him. Okay,
(20:47):
so what are we going to do with that? You know,
as far as how do we take care of these matchups?
How do we switch things off? Because Washington tried to
do that and it didn't work. So are you going
to go back to the if you go back to
the umbrella? Now, all of a sudden, here comes the
bowling ball of razor blades and the matrix at you,
So what are you gonna do there? So I think
there's a real problem. Yes, we got a problem of
(21:09):
trying to figure out what we're gonna do with Josh
Allen and James Cook. I think those are the two
featured guys. They've got a problem in the Buffalo this
week trying to get ready for this greup.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, I mean shock.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You got to know that they're gonna put on the
tape and they're gonna watch Vijon making people miss in
every which way and form right, whether it's in the
passing game, whether it's in the run game, whether it's
an open field, whether it's between the tackles and it
looks like they've got him and he slips out right.
So it's one of those deals where not only is
was it good for Atlanta to get a win against Washington,
but there was a lot of tape out there from
(21:40):
that game to whether they like, all right, we're gonna
have our hands full. I want to make sure you
have your chance to give what your matchup is. What
are you looking at? That's gonna be kind of really
interesting to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
I love both of you guys matchups, and I think
it's gonna be huge in the ballgame and ultimately when
we come back next week, probably talking about both of
those scenarios we're talking about. The other part is what
we you know, kind of similar already discussed about. You know,
the Bills and their tight ends. Billy Bowman. We know
how good he has been for us over the first
few weeks. Now you got another premiere tight end and
(22:14):
averaging you know, fourteen yards of reception. And as quarterbacks,
we know that tight end is usually somewhere in your
eye sight you started to move, or he's probably gonna
be in your first or second in your progression. Can
Billy have a day against their tight end? That takes
away one of those things that we talked about. Okay,
you got James Cook out here, you got Josh. Can
you not have him have three things that can go?
(22:35):
And if he can do that, I think we got
a good chance. But it's gonna be fun to see
Billy have another opportunity to go against another you know,
big time player like a kink in this ballgame, who
is obviously one of Josh Allen's you know, kind of
safety valves.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
If you want to say.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
For him, would you say that this is a step
up shock He saw Hockinson in week two, but Hockinson,
maybe not necessarily athletically what Kenkate is seems to have
a little bit more shake to him, a little bit
to a certain extent, didn't really he didn't see Aughten
in week one, so maybe the most difficult matchup he's
(23:09):
seen so far.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Man, I think it's probably the most difficult because of
the guy who can give him the football. You think
about J. J McCarthy in that game. Obviously he was
coming off a big game previously, but he was still
trying to find his way within that offense, and we
put a leugh pressure on him that him under to
you know, have some issues. So I think absolutely because
of who he is for one, and you talk about
his ability, but also how creative that guy is number seventeen,
(23:34):
to try to get him the football and put him
in positions to go win, and I think they will
draw some things up where they want to match that
up and try to go get him the football.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Tell me how many times you guys see Allen throw
the ball on time? That's a very off schedule quarterbackll
It's what you were talking about his ability and you
were talking about that second piece of the play. It
almost feels like that if you can keep him in
that mode where it's a second you know he's got
to hold it, then maybe it is in one of
(24:04):
those kind of deals like you got in Minnesota, where
you can get after him a little bit more. Now
you gotta get him on the ground. We talked about
it difficult to get on the ground. But he does
seem to be like that secondary throw guy where he
moves in the pocket. Now I got that shot at
that overwrap. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like the
speed out boom the ball comes out. You just don't
see that.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, it seems like he holds the football. I
saw that a lot too when I was watching Mahomes
the other night. Dude, It's like it's like most of
his biggest completions come out when he starts scrambling, and
it either it's just an extension or his turn his
receivers turned into scramble drone, somebody's wide open. I mean,
he ended up making that one throw the other night,
jumping up in the air, and I was just like,
what was that?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
But that's the vintage Mahomes, right that's.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
It's a great example of like Arch mentioned earlier, when
you rush four and you have a guy like that,
you can literally watch him in the pocket and he bounce, bounce, bounce,
and he's looking for that small little avenue to escape.
And then it's like, okay, now the play begins. I'm
looking for to throw the football down the field. And
to be honest, they can use their legs to run,
(25:07):
but they want that shot down field. They want to
throw it, so it's gonna be get interest.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
You can see how we go.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
About trying to play these guys, especially within the pocket,
and when a guy doesn't want to be on schedule, well, to.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Your point too about the workman like, kind of put
your hard heat on, just do your job. It seems
like they understand that piece. I think there's a synergy
among Shakir and ken Kate. Hey, my guy is gonna
buy time, So I'm gonna get to a dead spot
somewhere myself, give him somebody somewhere to throw it.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm throwing up the threes here.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Okay, you know what the threes are is not for
a field goal, right, We're not talking about having field goals.
This is our our game that we need to get
some music like, right, So here's our three words. Okay,
what do the Atlanta Falcons need to do to beat
the Buffalo Bills in three words?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I made one up the other night, but the emphasis
is on three words, and they're telling me regular English
vernacular words.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay, So what do the Atlanta Falcons need to do
to beat the Buffalo Bills in three words?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'm gonna use the same words you're using, six, not three.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
It was a game where you gotta score to you like.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
I had to think about it for a second. Yeah,
one right down.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
The only nobody need to explain. But yeah, I think
it's a game where obviously we know their ability to
score points. We can't be in a they score touchdown,
we go down and get a field goal. It has
to be touchdowns in the red zone to even want
to put pressure on their office to come back and respond,
but even for us to just to have that confidence.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
So I like six. I love that. That might be
your best one. He loves it. He loves that might
be that might be your best one. Go ahead, man,
sit down, you don't mean you relax now you nail.
Aren't you on.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The hot seatow that?
Speaker 5 (27:07):
All right? So yeah, that one, that one's tough to top.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm gonna go limit Allen effect, okay, And and there's
multiple ways to go to limiting. Limiting the Allen effect
would be okay, I can do that with my offense.
We talked about what we need to do defensive Gotta
tackle well, gotta get him on the ground, make sure
he can't find those little creases to go get eight
(27:33):
fifteen whatever he does from rush game standpoint. But we
can do that with the offense too if we limit
how much he's on the field. Remember, I don't know
if you remember the interview that mcdermick does coming off
the field against New England. He talked about we got
to get in a rhythm. We're not in a rhythm
on offense. How do you affect the rhythm offensively? Don't
let him be on the field. And can can Michael
(27:55):
and his group on the offensive side either make big
plays and rest them by scoring points and maybe change
how they want to attack our defense, or can you
just simply simply stay on the field And all of
a sudden he looks up and wow, I only got
four possessions in the first half. Only got three possessions
in the first half. You know, that's the way of
limiting the Allen effect.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
You got a double.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Double meaning on that way, which which which kind of
like it kind of like I'm hurt, my hurt feelings
hurt a little bit. It's also it's also like it
was a good segue because my three words were possess
the rocky okay.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And I'm thinking on the same wavelength as you. It's
a little sad because you kind of took it, but
but we're thinking along the same wavelength.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Is that when I was thinking about this game, and
I even wrote it down in my notes for one
of my keys, we're kind of like going through keys
if you will, was how do you limit Alan and
what he can do is you stay on the field offensively.
This cannot be a game with a bunch of three
and outs. When you get three plays, you punt it.
And then now we get to watch Josh Allen what
he gets, what he's done in primetime throughout the course
of his career. This is gets possess the football put
(29:02):
together to long drives and this could just be like
we could just do all this possess the rock limit,
the Allen effect, and then six not three.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, we do all those things, we get a w
We have a pretty good shape. We have a pretty
good shape right there.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I think that's pretty good, guys, Pretty good little summary
of the Buffalo Bills, the matchup coming up this week.
We could go into Keys and all that stuff. But
here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
If we go into Keys, this show's gonna end up
being another fifteen minutes. I can just tell you right now. Okay,
So we're gonna go ahead and leave it there.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Falcon's coming off of a bye week, very important week
for them to not only get this, the rest of
this season kicked off on the right note. But you've
got a talented opponent coming into your own house in Prompton.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Can I ask you, guys, this is something that is
driving me crazy that I keep hearing. Ok and it's
more of a sports talk kind of fodder, if you will, boy,
Buffalo winning losing last week is really gonna be a
problem for the Falcons because they're going to become it
come in mad. I mean what over there have I've
(30:06):
ever heard something that's more fan orientated.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
But we've got guys that are talking about, Oh boy,
I wish they'd won this week because they're really going
to come in mad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
This year, because I think that Atlanta would much rather
have a five and zero, hitting on all cylinders, feeling
the rhythm'm scoring forty.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Points a game, Buffalo Bills, Yeah, that's way.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Did you ever get consider.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
They're questioning a whole bunch of stuff up there that
they did and trying to no, no, no, don't worry about.
There's a lot of things they're concentrated, not not to
mention the fact that they got to get ready for
this football team that's coming off. So maybe us coming
off a really good win is a bad thing for
that Just it's a scenario or a narrative that drives
me crazy that, oh, they're going to be more focused
(30:49):
this week. We only get seventeen of these, and each
one of them count to where you make the playoffs
or not.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
They're all extremely important.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Yeah, okay, they're not going to be coming here less
moated on Monday night football in front of the entire country.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Thank you, listen, This was kind of I pulled this
stat out.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I'm gonna leave you guys with this before we go
because and we don't have to talk about it because.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
In the NFL, they say that you are what your
record says you are. Right in the Buffalo Bills just
lost their first game.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
They're four and one.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, However, did you guys know did you know that
their four wins the teams that they played are a
collective three and seventeen?
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Did you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Ravens? What's going on with the Ravens? They can't play defense.
They're one and four.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
The Jets are zero and five, they're going to rebuild.
The Dolphins are one and four struggling in the Saints
one and four rebuilt.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That's who they have bet so far this year. Collective.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Yeah, but they're coming in seventeen about that?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Okay, I'm not telling you, I'm not telling you that
means anything. I'm just telling you they've beat up on
teams that are not all that great. But in the NFL,
they always say you are what your record says you are. Okay,
And most people would take four and one at this
the season. So Atlanta Falcons got their work cut out
for him on Monday night. But guess what we could
say that every single week, Hey, you.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Got to make sure you're tuning in. Both these guys
are going to be on the call on Monday.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's right, so make sure on the Westwood one National
Radio call Arch obviously on the Falcons Radio network, and
Shock will.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Be inside the Stadium of NA.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
You know what I'm saying? All right?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well represented?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That's Falcons Audible presented by AT and T. Thanks so
much for joining us, everybody.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Wherever you get your podcast material, don't forget to like
and subscribe to us here Atlanta fout Red Helmet Week
coming on this week, and we'll be back next week
to wrap everything up on what happened in Monday night
football and primetime.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Thanks so much for joining us, everybody, DJ Shock, Leig,
Dave Ar, I'm Derek Ractley. See you next week out
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