September 23, 2025 • 39 mins
Derek, Dave, and DJ react to the Atlanta Falcons' 30-0 loss to the Carolina Panthers by breaking down what really led to just a bad result. They then talk about how to go about righting the ship and how the Falcons can rebound this weekend vs the Washington Commanders.
0:25 - Intro
1:19 - What happened?
11:00 - Falcons make changes
17:35 - What's "the fix"?
25:50 - Moving on to Washington
33:00 - More about Atlanta or Washington
37:10 - Outro
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Speaker 4 (00:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Falcon's Audible, presented by AT and T is back.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I got the crew here, DJ Shockley, Dave Archer, I'm
Derek Rackley, and we are going to bring it to you.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We're going to give it to you after a win
and after a loss, and not.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Only a log but an ugly Losson's.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Falcons follow the Carolina Panthers on the road thirty two.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Unfortunately zero in that game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Gentlemen, I don't know about you guys the last two days,
but I've fielded a ton of questions about did you
watch the Falcons game.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like I mean that those are It seems like that
is the question that everybody's been asking.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So guess what, DJ, I'm gonna throw it.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Back at you.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Hey, DJ, come on, shot.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I figured out what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Bro, what's so crazy is? Man is I got like buddies.
I got friends who are like die hard Falcon fans
and they text me and it's like the sky has fallen.
We gotta I had to do text me and say shop,
tell me truth, pink slip tomorrow right, I'm like, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
One guy asked me, hey, oh week three, Oh week
week three, it's Kirk Starr next week. I'm like, bro,
come on, like for like, yeah, it was a bad
day at the office. It happens, and I don't know
if you know, fans hate to see it. I had
to realize that I know thirty and none. That's probably
the bottom of the barrel. And you don't expect your
team to play like that, and just they look from
(02:00):
a lot of different facets, but it happens. You have
bad days, you play badly. I think if you've ever
played a sport, if you've ever done something you're really
passionate about, you've had a day where things did not
go your way, and that's exactly what happened with our
fougers on Sunday. Everything possible did not go our way,
and we end up, you know, losing the ball game
(02:21):
and we're gonna go through. But there are a lot
of things that you can point out. There are a
lot of situations in the game. There are a lot
of things that you say, you know, what we could
have done better at that, we could have you know,
played a little bit better in this spot. But ultimately,
in this day and age, where you're in week three,
you get a chance to go do it again next week,
improve yourself again. And you look at the week before
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you play sunlit football. You go be a really good
team on the road, You come up next week and
you don't play your best football. Now you get a
chance to play another really good team and you get
to play them at home, and you get a chance
to kind of kind of lick your wounds a little
bit and get back to work. And that's a great
thing about having this season is it's earlier u where
you can make some changes and you can try to
(03:03):
write the ship.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Hey, shock, guys, I'm still in fan Moult here. Arch
Arch but here's the problem, Like, how how did it happen?
After they come off of the performance against Minnesota, like
they played so good? How does that happen in the
very next week?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That's the follow up question.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, it is. And styles make fights obviously, and and
and certain certain things go your way in games that
change the ebb and flow of the game, maybe change
your game plan.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Shock touched on a lot of it in the fact that, Okay,
do we do we have a problem? Yes, the thing
that I think you immediately have to do. Okay, what
what went wrong? And how do we go about fixing it?
And I think the Atlanta is in the process of
the Falcons are in the process of trying to do that.
They've made some adjustments and we'll talk about those. But ultimately,
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you got a young quarterback that just played a sixth game. Okay,
I think back to my career. My sixth game, I
didn't know where I was coming or going, you know,
and and to do all the things you have to
do nowadays the process, get plays called process, get the
line of scrimmage, change things. It's so situational now. Shock
(04:09):
at the line of scrimmage as far as what you do,
so that part of the process needs to be helped out,
and I think they've tried to address some of that.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The ebb and flow of a season, if you don't
bring your best, you can get embarrassed. And I remember
my first year as a starter here we started four
and oh and we got shut out by the Eagles
at home, and we were averaging thirty two points a
game on offense and we lost seventeen to nothing. And
you're thinking, I'm sure the fan went home going what
did I just see? The next week we came out
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and beat the Rams and we're off and running again.
So things can flow back and forth. You just got
to make sure see nobody had seen Michael have a
bad day. I mean he's had some bally off, he's
had some bad practices. This just in John L Joe Montana.
I mean, go down the line.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No way, I had bad days, had bad days.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
How about Lamar Jackson last night? Yeah, right in the
Monday night game, right, he didn't have a great game.
Hei they got sack seven times. You know he's an
MVP caliber player. Now, granted they scored points, but everybody
has bad performances and fellas. Here's kind of some of
the conversations that I was having with some people recently, is,
you know, we all live in the Southeast, right, so
we're privy to the SEC football on the college level.
(05:27):
And here's the difference in the college level in my opinion, Right,
Georgia can play Austin p or Tennessee can play East
Tennessee State and they can play bad and they'll still
win because they're just better players. They just have supremely
higher talent on their roster. Okay, the NFL is completely different.
(05:47):
That you play a team that's OZ and two guess
what they got some ball players on their team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, they have Pro.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Bowl caliber players, they have superstars. They have coaches that
are very good, play callers, understand schemes, understand how to
attack previous week's game film. And if you don't bring
your a game every week, it doesn't matter what the
opponent record is because the guys on the other team
are fighting for a job every single week too. They
want to stay on the roster, much like everybody player
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on the Atlanta Falcons roster does. They want to stay
on the roster. So that's the difference, in my opinion,
between the college game and the NFL game is if
you don't bring your a game or if everything is off,
you will get embarrassed. And it's happened to I had
to go back and look fellas and in my career
actually three times six years with the Falcons, two with Seattle,
I got shut out three times.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you guys know how those weeks are afterwards. Shock.
Tell everybody that has not had the.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Privy of being in a building the week after you
get smoked, what is life like the next week at
practice after a game like that?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I guess if the best thing that I can use
is you come home and you've said something to your
wife and you know you ultimately regret it, and you
come home and you're walking on eggshells. That's kind of
how it is walking in the building again. It's like, man,
it could be some real changes. Some guys could really
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have their jobs and job and the tough part about
it is we would always have what a lot of
teams have now, which is like a tele truth Monday
or I mean, we came in and it was team
mean first thing and you put up all the things
in front of your teammates everything that went wrong or
a guy not hustling or a guy not doing his job,
and you put it right there on front Street, so
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everybody knows exactly where you're staying and what is the
standard of what should be. And when you came off
a game like that, there's nobody who can hold their
head high and say, you know what, I did my
job right, because you better not say that, because obviously
you ain't do good enough a job to help the
guy next to you, or you could have done more.
And there's always that in every single ball game, period.
But when you get shut out like that, there is
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a new found respect that you gotta have for the
job that you're doing. And I think you got to
attack it a little bit differently because obviously you didn't
bring your lunch pail that week, and you got to
make sure that you do better the next week. So
it's always one of those tougher weeks because everybody feels
the wrath of what just happened, and quite frankly, you
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feel embarrassed and you have to find a way to
get out the snide and nobody wants to feel that way.
Everybody's got some pride about theirselves, especially at this level.
And like you mentioned, everybody's good, but you expect to
still be very competitive. And if you don't score or
you don't go out and play what you're supposed to,
you gotta you gotta, you gotta bring a different mindset.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, these moments are gonna will test what you've built, okay,
And there's a pretty good feeling about what the chemistry
and the culture, if you want to use that word
is about. This will test that. Okay. You usually find
more out about yourself. And I don't care what walk
of life you're in when adversity strikes, as opposed to
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when everything's going good. Right, So every thing was going
good last week, now it's not and it's gone completely
the other direction. How do you respond? And if you
have the right culture and the right guys, which I
think you do, I think that ultimately those guys are
going to respond and they're going to double down, as
Shock was talking about, on their effort. It's a team game,
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but individually, what do I need to do to take
it to another level? And it's not just the players,
it's the coaches and everybody coming together, but taking their
individual piece and saying Okay, we got to reapply here.
We didn't get things done last week to our level
of expertise. We need to redouble down on that kind
of stuff. And I think that's the thing you hope for.
(09:41):
That's what the thing you hope you've built so when
you get embarrassed, and that was an embarrassing loss. You
had two phases of the game that really didn't play
anywhere near NFL caliber football, and your defense tried to
hold onto the rope the best they could, but the
vow broke.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've said this many a times and I'll say this
again after a performance like this, is the last thing
that I'm going to do, and I think us three
are going to do up here, is make excuses, because
you make excuses in the National Football League, and that's
what gets you cut and that's what gets you beat.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The one thing I can say that I would say
I appreciate is listening to Raheem Morris's press conference along
with Michael Pennix, and yet they did ask him the
questions about the headset and stuff. But both the head
coach and the quarterback, we're not making any excuses about
the headset. They said, that's not the reason why we
lost the game. We got to be better. We've got
to find a way to work through situations like that.
(10:35):
Michael Pennocks, you young quarterback, took a lot of responsibility,
owned up to it. Yeah, I missed some passes. I'm
not going to make excuses as to why I got
to play better. I got to hit those passes. Your
head coach saying that he's got to do things better.
We had a good week of practice, but apparently it
wasn't good enough. We're gonna have to so so to
your point, generally, practice this week is going to be
ratcheted up a little bit more and the smiles on
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the people's faces will not be present too much this week, Archie,
you alluded to it. A couple of changes that have
come down for the organization. Atlanta Falcons have decided to
release wide receiver coach I Killiard, so TJ. Yates, who's
been the wide receiver coach here previously back in twenty
two and twenty three, he will take over the wide
receiver coach duties for the rest of the season. He
(11:16):
was the passing game coordinator as well as bringing Zach
Robinson from the booth down from the field.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Those two changes.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
What do you think that does for the players on
the offense as far as the message sent and how
the adjustments now on the sideline are going to happen
differently versus when Robinson was upstairs.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, you just mentioned the first piece of it. Message sent.
We're not standing pat. That was unacceptable. We just put
out there as a product for our fan base, for
us as a team. We're gonna we're gonna do some
things to rattle the cages a little bit. The receiver
corps have not been what they year were a year ago.
Let's be honest. Those guys are not making enough plays.
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Is it because of routes run? Is it because they're
spacing and distribution? Well, that's going to be addressed. That's
going to be looked at. And so unfortunately, I kill
your is released, and so you move on from there.
Zach Robinson coming down from my perspective, puts him face
to face with his young quarterback. It's one thing to
get on the headset and talk to the guy upstairs
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and you go over a couple of things, look at
the pad and all this kind of stuff. But when
he's sitting right next to you and he can look
in your face and he can see some of the concerns,
some of those kind of things. There's a human element
attached that, just like he is in practice, Zach Robinson's
standing right next to him in practice. This is a
guy that's played six football games in National Football League?
How much can I help him do his job? And remember,
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the headset cuts off at fifteen seconds. I can't talk
to him if I'm on the sideline and he's not sure.
Now I don't have to relay it to one guy
and then him relay it out to or he can't
even really he's trying to yell, pull his headset down
to yell. Now I'm there and we can talk to
one another. So it simplifies the operation. I think there'll
be some some other things that they'll do to help
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simplify for Michael what he's going to have to do
on the field. And I'm sure the coaches are going
through their process of Okay, how much do I need?
How much more do I need to get the play
in a little bit sooner. They're evaluating all the situations here.
They know this is unaccepted, it's unacceptable to their standard,
So what can we do to help Michael be better.
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And some of it has to do with the guys
playing around him better. A lot of it has to
do with the guys playing around him better. And then
how do I help with the process of getting plays
in and out, getting people in and out so I
can simplify it so all he has to do is
call it and get the line of scrimmage so he
can start to process what's happening.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
At the line of scrim To your point, archs Rahie
Moore said that in his Monday press conference, is that
everybody around Michael's got to play better. It wasn't just
on Michael Pennick. Yeah, he was fifty percent, but he
said after they looked at the tape, everybody in this
offense has got to play better around him. I want
to get your opinion, shock, have you had an opportunity,
either in your college and or NFL playing career where
you had a offensive play caller up in the box
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and one down on the sideline, and what your experience
has been with either or both of them.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, I've had both in college and here with the
Falcons where you had a guy up in the booth
you had got down for me I thought having a
guy who was on the field was big too. Obviously,
like ARJ mentioned for everything, he mentioned that part of
the communication I think is a little bit different because
you can actually talk like straight to the guy's face
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and he could see some of the things that like,
sometimes we failed to realize the emotion of the game
that's going on right in the midst of it. And
sometimes you can talk to a guy upstairs and you
can hear him talk, and you know, you can have
a conversation and say, all right, this is what we're
gonna do, and the guy says, okay. But if I'm
sitting next to you and we're going through stuff and
I can see you, maybe your eye goes a little
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here it goes and you have a little bit of
trying to figure out what's going on. I can understand
and notice that while I'm on the sideline, And I
had coaches who could could see that and notice that,
and then they would say, did you not like that?
Was that something that you know? Was you know, you
want to work on you or you want to find
something better? And I think that's part of the equation,
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is just the feel of it. Down on the field.
There's something different than being down and being up. Now,
a lot of teams have successful guys being up in
the box, get up in the booth and made to
talk to it because you have somebody down on the
ground like a twoja two, you know, can be the
enemary between both of them. But I think this is
just a situation where, like argument, you got a younger quarterback,
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You got to offensive coordinator who is going into his
second year of calling plays, and you want to make
sure that the entire communication from how you feel situationally,
what's going on in the game, everything is how you
want to be once you hit the ball game, how
you hit the field. So I think it's a lot
to him coming down. We'll see how it, you know,
actually transfers over if there's a change.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
But you know, I'm glad they're looking for solutions to
the situations.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
A great point shock, they're looking for something to do.
And people say, well, yeah, but Zach was upstairs last
year when Michael played his three games. From a scenario standpoint, okay,
here you're getting your young quarterback and he's getting to
play at the end of the season, and so there
was a different kind of flavor to that he now
is your starting guy and you're trying to go make
make the playoffs. Not that you weren't trying to make
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the playoffs, but you're up against it a little bit
late in the year last year where everything had to
break for you to make that happen. This is a
scenario where early in the year and you're trying to
go win a division. You're going to try and to
and so how your quarterback's feeling about stuff. Shock makes
a great point in that I can look at you, Rack,
and I can see in your eyes what's going on.
(16:38):
I don't want to get weird with it or anything
like that, but we're if we're on the pad and
you're trying to talk to me from upstairs and you say,
you see the linebacker here, you know, I can actually
point to stuff. I can visially, we can have a
physical interaction here. Look right here. This is what I
want you to look at. That little piece of communication.
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Albeit you may think it's true, that's a big deal.
And you got certain amount of time between series to
try to figure out what's going on, so you can
make that adjustment. Here's where your eyes should be, you know,
and you try to say that from upstairs, but I
can physically show him there's there's something to that. Obviously,
the Falcons Feelercaud's something to it. That's why they made this,
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made this move. Let's hope it works, you know, because
you do the thing that I love what Shaques said.
They're not letting it just fester and say, Okay, it'll
be better next week. They're saying, no, let's address it.
Let's help our quarterback the best we can.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, one final comment I want to make on
Carolina and then we're gonna move on.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Is a lot of people again in the last two days,
have been asking me, well, how do we fix this?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's like you have a performance like this and everybody
wants to know what's the fix. Okay, Well, first of
allf we had the fix, we probably wouldn't be sitting
here for the microphones right. Second of all, the fix
in the NFL isn't always just right in front of you, right.
It's not just oh, it's a two or three different
play calls, or it's a catch here or there. Like
a game like last weekend was a lot of things
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that did not go right. We didn't even get into
special teams, and we had a kicker that went five
or five the first week in zero for two the
second week, and the very first opportunity we had missed
the field goal. Kind of brings the whole mood down
a little bit. Right, didn't play good in the return game, Okay,
so it kind of goes back to the first week
of the season. I'm going to go first here and
then I want to get your guys' opinion, because I
think it's two things that are not necessarily x's and
(18:24):
o's on the football field in a situation like this.
I think it's number one. It's accountability. Like you as
a player and you as a coach, got to be
accountable for what you're doing, and you kind of talked
about it a little bit earlier. You can't be the
player that's saying, well, I did my job well?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Did you do your job?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Did you make your teammate next to you better? Did
you get the tackle when you had an arm out
there and he ended up breaking through the arm and
you could have brought your legs better, right, A lot
of different areas and accountability, which means you need to
step your level of play up unless you want to
get embarrassed like that again. Number two is leadership, and
I think this both from the veterans on the team
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and guess what he can also come from your second
year quarterback that has been elected a captain. I'm just
saying it doesn't have to be a guy that's in
a six or seventh year. Leadership comes in different forms,
but accountability leadership can work together if guys are saying, fellas,
this is not good enough, this is not our standard,
and we are not going to get embarrassed like this again.
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And so when it go, when you go out to
the practice field, when you start challenging people. I'll never
forget shock Nakobe Dean that won to play on the
field where he went and grabbed one of his teammates
by the front of his jersey and got all up
in his face mask and I don't know what he said,
but I'm sure there was some choice words that was
something like, we don't do that here right. Sometimes those
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statements is what really gets.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Somebody like, oh, he ain't playing right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And I'll never forget like hearing the stories about how
Tom Brady would basically say, if you don't do this right,
you will not be on the field with me. Right,
If I can't count on you to do this or
or do it this way, you will not be on
the field. When people step up like that, Like to me,
that's a different level of leadership. So to me, guys,
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accountability and leadership arch maybe more big picture or what
the fix is. But what do you think needs to
happen this week so that type of performance doesn't happen again?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Well, I think it starts the first day they go
out there and practice. They did a little bit on Monday.
We're recording this on a Tuesday. This is the player's
day off. I've already seen a ton of players here already.
You guys talked about accountability. What can I do to
make sure I step it up? And I think that
sometimes it's not necessarily maybe grabbing a guy by the
scruff of the neck. It's actually when I come in,
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I already see Michael doing this, or I already see
Drake London doing that, or John Robinson or Kaden Ellis,
And so when I get here, I see that they
step things up a little bit and there's a sense
of urgency to go about our business a little bit
different way. Double down, I said, Double down on what
your effort can be and that becomes the team concept
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of it. But the thing that you cannot do is
and I know that fans do this and that's why
they're fans. Is you panic. Okay, you've got to understand that. Okay,
our work ethic is this what didn't we do last week.
Let's make sure we make the adjustments to that, both
coach and player, and then we apply that. Because you
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start panicking now all of a sudden, it puts second
guessing in your mind. You can't second guess how to
read a route. I understand Michael Pennicks drops to throw.
This is how we're reading this route. I can't all
of a sudden start second guessing that. But if i
have a sense of urgency at receiver and I'm getting
into my routes, and I'm helping my quarterback from a
spacing standpoint, and I'm working my rear end off from
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a protection standpoint, just to give them that little extra time,
and I get that play in where he gots a
chance to process what's going on the line of scrimmage,
then everybody's working in concert with one another to take
it to another level.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Shock What comes to your mind and that like kind
of big pick sure, like how does this team rebound
from a performance like this so it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I think you guys have been spot on with what
you talked about, especially both of you guys talking about accountability.
Part about doing it and not being one is just
talking about it, just showing by action. I think that's
a big part. I think the other part it goes,
you know, kind of on the line of what you
guys just talked about. But I think each guy has
to be honest with their self about what happened in
(22:27):
the ball game. And I think you go back you
watch the filmily, like you mentioned, there's spots where you know, what, hey,
we've said a million times is just to play that
I could have did something better that could affect it,
maybe the outcome of a series. Maybe this was a
situation where I could have played a little bit better,
play a little bit harder, or you know, ran to
the football a bit hard, whatever the situation may be.
(22:47):
I think I had to be honest with yourself first,
and then the second part about it is what I
think they've already done. And I've seen tons of interviews.
I've seen arts talking to them after the game. A
lot of guys did a really good job of encouraging
and being there for their other brother. Obviously, Michael Pennings
have the day they wanted, and I heard every guy
to a t talk about how they still believe in him.
(23:10):
The comments they have, they know what he's about. And
I think you have to have some of that within
your team to go to those guys and say, you
know what, this wasn't the best week, but guess what,
we still believe in you. And as a young guy,
that would go a long way from me that here's
a guy that's playing in the league ten years and
he's coming to encourage me. I heard Bijian talking about it.
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I heard Katy Nelly's talking about it. You got guys
who are in those leadership roles and they're going to
pick their guys up because the end of the day,
it's hard to get away from the social media. It's
hard to get away from what everybody's saying. Everybody's got
family members that's called him asking him what happened, Oh
what about this guy? This guy played terrible. But I
think the biggest thing and the best thing you could
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do is find a way to encourage your teammates and
then you do all the things like you guys talked
about taking it to the next step of doing the
extra work, being accountable. All those things have to go
hand in hand together if you want to turn this around.
And like we mentioned, there's a lot of things you
can go the other way would it do And I
don't think this is a team that will do that.
This is not a stab. You don't have a head
coach who will go the other way. And the first
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thing you guys mentioned, Ray Moore's straightforward what he told
you exactly what it was and what they got to do.
And they've already made the changes. Now we move on
and we make those changes.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Confidence is a funny thing, right yep. I mean it's
a little word or you know, a word that you
think confidence, And it's pretty easy to say. This game
is played at light speed. Most throws come out inside
three seconds, and so it's hard to translate that to
the fan as to how quickly the game is played,
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how quick the guys are on the other side of
the ball. And if I can, if I play with confidence,
then I'm playing on time. Maybe I'm playing ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
But if I play with a little bit less confidence
or a lack of confidence, I'm late, and account late
will get you in this game. It'll be a pick six,
it'll be a you know, a misstep and not get
in the hole. It'll be a mistackle that you talked about.
Confidence is a funny thing. And if you can manifest
confidence by the guys that are playing around you, picking
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guys up whereever it is, and then doubling down in
your own effort, but it can. It can ebb and flow,
and it ebbs and flows for younger players more than
does older players because older players have the experience of
playing through some of that adversity. If you're in your
first year of starting, which essentially Michael Pennix is and
some guys around him are young players as well, that
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confidence can go up and down the scale a little
bit more. Even though he's a he's a confident dude,
it's still he's a human being. It's going to so
the more you can make him feel confident about what
he's doing, the better you're gonna play, and the quicker
you're going to play.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Shack.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You mentioned move on, so let's go ahead and move
on to the next team that's on the schedule. Falcons
are going to face off at home, so after two
weeks playing on the road, that'll be back here in
Atlanta and they're going to be playing the Washington Commanders,
who ended up getting their second victory of the season
this past weekend over the Las Vegas Raiders forty one
twenty four. Albeit Shock with a quarterback not named Jayden
(26:10):
Daniels last weekend, it was one that's somewhat familiar to
the Atlanta Falcons organization, and Marcus Mariota was a very
emotional win for him. I was interviewed after the game,
and I think his journey and some of the stumbles
that he's had to go through kind of hit him
all at one time. But the Commanders played well last
weekend against Vegas. So my question to you, Shock is
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what is the animal? Obviously it wasn't too long ago
the Atlanta Falcons faced the Washington Commanders on the road
Sunday Night Football last year at the end of the season,
so they know this organization. Obviously the head coach spent
a lot of time here as well. What is the
animal that the Falcons are facing, whether it is Jaden
Daniels or it's Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Well, I think it starts with the head coach. Optionally,
we know dan Quinton really well. We know what kind
of coach he is, we know what kind of man
he is, and he's going to have his team fully prepared.
They're going to be a well coached team. And we've
seen that. We saw that last year and we know
he's a tough dude. I mean, did we see Marcus
Mariola run through dan Quinn on the side, hit the ground, everything,
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bleeding from his nose and everything. I mean, we saw
all that, and uh, but you know this is a
team that was obviously deep in the playoffs last year.
A lot of the same characters on that team. Now,
obviously the quarterback is another scenario, uh in its own right.
But like you mentioned, you got a guy who and
Marcus Mariola who has been through it. He went through
it here, and I think anybody who is going through
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that kind of adversity and now you're on the other
side of it, there's a new found respect for the game.
There's a new found respect for how you play the game.
And I think given this extra opportunity with a guy
that he knows he wants to take full advantage of it,
and I think that permeates what we just talked about
through his teammates around him and everybody playing to that
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kind of Standard's gonna be one of those type of
ball games in Washington's a good football team and we've
seen that. We've seen it last year's seen it this year. Obviously,
they got a three auded monster running back of Christopher Reguez,
the court Crosskey Merritt, and you know Jerrywin Nichols. I mean,
three different style of guys. Mariota fifteen to twenty one.
Last week two hundred seven yard didn't turn the football over. Obviously,
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they bring in Deebo Samuel. You know the physicality that
he brings, you know, the attitude that he brings to
an offense, and the multiple ways they try to get
him the football. Still got scary Terry over there. You
know Zach this this is Zach Er. This is an
offense that has weapons and similar to you look at us,
same similar thing, but the level that they're playing at
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is a little bit different from this week to what
we've seen in the past. So this is a team
in Washington that is is the mindset for them is, hey,
we're a team that was a couple of plays away
from going to the Super Bowl. We feel good about
where we are. So obviously the Bobby Wagner's on the
other side, the experienced guys you got there too. I mean,
they got a D line that's we've seen some really
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good defensive players. They got two or three of those
guys on that D line that you got to worry about.
So this is gonna be a tough tax. This is
gonna be a game that you know, you got to
make sure you bring your hard heads. And if you're
worried about what happened last week, oh yeah, guess what,
this team will make it feel even worse because they're
just as good too. So come to this ball.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Game, Archie.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I don't know if you wanted to talk about the
Commander's offense or defense, but I was just gonna kind
of lead you to there's some dudes on this defensive side, now,
Bobby Wagner, as you mentioned, Frankie Louvu by the way,
von Miller ended up in Washington, Marshaun Lattimore's there. I mean,
they've got some players that are Pro Bowlers, that are
tackling machines that are former Super Bowl MVPs, like they've
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got some legit talent on that side of the ball.
So if there was a struggle with Michael Pennox last
year or last week, competing fifty percent of his passes,
it's not going to get a whole lot easier in
the next game.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No, it's not. And we know that the week in
and week out, if you don't bring your best, you're
in trouble. And this is a Washington team is playing
with a lot of confidence, you said, Ross Shock. This
is a team that a lot of people feel like
is going to be in the mix to potentially end
up in that last game.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Of the year.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Albeit their quarterback a little bit banged up. Don't know
if Jaden Daniels will go, but Marcus Mariota filled in admirably.
It's a defense that's been pushed around a little bit
in the first three weeks. Guys, there's teams that have
moved the football on them. Obviously, it'll be paramount for
us to get Tyler Algiar and Jean Robinson going in
the run game. That always helps. A quarterback need to
be able to run the football the game kind of
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got a little bit out of whack in the second
half of the Carolina game, and you had to kind
of fight your way back in the game, maybe with
the passing game, and got a little bit away from
two of your best players. You need to keep the
game in perspective there. To me, the game is going
to hinge a lot on how Atlanta handles Washington's running game.
Washington comes in the number two offense in the league,
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run into football in the first three weeks of the season,
and so I don't care who's playing quarterback. It's talked
about the best friend of a quarterback as a running game.
Can you limit the run game to where they only
have to throw the ball twenty times in the game?
You said Mariota was what fifteen to twenty one with
very similar to remember Michael Pennick threw the ball what
twenty three times against Minnesota because you were running the football.
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So Atlanta's pretty good against the run.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
They've been.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I think we're tenth in the league right now, and
I no, numbers don't get are kind of skewed because
we're early on in the year. This is a defense
is playing at a high level. You go back to
the Carolina game. Atlanta gave up sixty one yards on
the opening drive that ultimately netted the touchdown run by
Bryce Young. After that, in twenty eight minutes of football,
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they gave up one hundred and sixty three yards of offense.
That's winning football. They're playing winning football on that side.
That to me is the matchup that I'm looking at
is the Reds almost they'll do. I actually played a
couple of season so the Washington Commander run game versus
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the Falcon run defense to allow those young guys to
get after the passer at some point control the quarterback
in the pocket. We've still had problems with that, and
we're going to see more and more players. Bryce Young
got out for a touchdown run. We know Baker Mayfield
hurt us a little bit. These guys, both these guys
want to get out and run with the ball, So
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you got to make sure you take.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Care of that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Listen, fellas, I don't know about you, but as a
broadcaster that's been around for a while, like I still
call San Diego Chargers Oakland Raiders every once so while,
I get tripped up on Saint Louis Rams and I
came into the league.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Saint Louis Rams were in our division.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Okay, you talked about Wathington like these things happen on occasion. Okay,
these names have all change. Some people have been born
that listened to this podcast. You never knew what it
was before. You might have heard about it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Used to the St. Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
He even goes further back.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, but you're right, Arch. I mean two hundred one
yards rushing for the Commanders in their game last week.
A lot of that aided because Marcus Mariota can do
some similar things that Jaden Daniels can. He can get
outside of the pocket. He ended up having forty rushing
yards in that game last weekend against the Raiders. Is
this game shock a lot more simple in the sense
that this is more about Atlanta and not so much
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about what Washington is going to do? Like, is this
one of those where it's short term memory? Got to
learn from last week? They had a whole week of practice,
put it behind them, and then as you talked about
play with the confidence and go let it loose against Washington,
to play freely and go out and make plays.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Rack, I say, you know, usually about eighty nine percent
I will say, yes, it's all about this team. It's
all about Atlanta. I would say it's more sixty to
forty Atlanta to Washington, because, yeah, okay, you got to
care yourself first, which is understanding me. So you got
some stuff that happened in this past ball game that
you have to correct. We've went through that. But then
there's also the opponent that you must go against that
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is really darn good. And we talked about some players
on both sides of the ball that you just come
and say, a, right, we're not really worrying about this guy.
We got to make sure we do it. We do Oh,
you're gonna lose sight of exactly who you're playing and
what it's about. So I think, yeah, you gotta go.
You gotta do the things that are the details of
what makes you a really good football team. But it's
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also in the same light of okay, I gotta do
it within the framework of stopping this opposing team and
what they do really well. Like ARJ mentioned, you can't
come in here and say, you know what, we got
some really good pass rush. We're gonna let them dodes
go because if you get outside your rush lanes, they
gonna make you hurt. It's gonna be one of those
kind of games if you come in and say, you
know what, we ran the ball really well first Minnesota,
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We're just gonna try to pound these guys, and then
that may not happen with this front seven you got,
you got linebackers we know this league that are downhill,
that are run, they are physical. Maybe it's about some
play action. Maybe it's about you know, using some things
that's gonna play with their hide. So I think it's
part of, yeah, what you do, but then also you
got to play to what they do as well to
kind of help you move this ball game alone.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
The human piece of this. Okay, I wanna throw this
out at you guys. How important is the juice in
the building on Sunday when this fan base is a
little upset, a little upset, a lot upset with what
they saw this last Sunday and things start a little
bit slow and maybe you know that really good crowd
(35:10):
that can show up at Mercedes Benz begins to start
feeling uneasy about thinking how important is the juice in
the building this weekend?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think it's huge an arch to as soon as
you started talking about that I said, the first thing
that came to my mind is the Falcon's got to
create the juice, Like you can't wait for it, Like,
don't wait for the fans to be there.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And help bail you out of a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like go go, make them get give them a reason
to get on their feet, give them a reason to
get loud if you end up getting that opening kickoff,
Like take that thing straight down the field, get into
the red.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Zone, catch it first, catch it first.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well done done, Okay, gotta field the kickoff, well all right,
go all the way down the field, get into the
red zone.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Falcons didn't even get into the.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Red zone last weekend against Carolina, And punch it in
for a touchdown and give them a reason to get
excited about what they're going to seek for. Call it
the next fifty five minutes in the right. You can't
just sit there and sit back and say we're home
this week and they're gonna be ruckus and it's going
to be difficult. No, give them a reason to make
it a difficult environment.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Absolutely, And I go back to what was it, second
third play the ball game to start the season, and
we throw it out of there to that right flight
and goes great And how crazy was that? I mean,
that was like a man, it's real nice in here,
you know what I mean. You got the flags flying,
everybody's we got the music going dirty bird next is rocking,
(36:32):
and it gives you a different energy. And guess what
that was presented. That was happened because of what you
did on the field. So I think it's a great
point that your play can bring that out. And of
course you would love the fans to be there, but
you gotta be honest. I'm a fan of a lot
of things too, and sometimes things good have to happen
(36:54):
for me to be really into it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They want to go off, As you said, you got
to give them a reason to go off. They want
to go off. You gotta give my reason too, good yo.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
And we also got to give him a reason in
the fourth quarter to get that swag surf on, because
I will.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Tell you, if they ain't playing well, they don't do it.
They're playing well. That gets that gets that gets at
l back in the house.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, okay, so no doubt.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
All right, that's gonna do it here for.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Go ahead. One last thing. We got to give some
flowers to this guy right here, his group. Uh, that's
why he's one of the one of the best in
the league. My dude right here earned himself a gabby,
you know what I'm saying him West Doom for Morgan, congratulations,
well deserved. My brother on the gabby, appreciate, appreciate. Art
was doing this thing for a long time, and he's
(37:37):
one of the best in the league. And if you're
not watching, if you're watching the game, you should turn
that off and listen to these guys. You're gonna learn
so much during the game, So well deserve. Arch had
to get your flas when we get out of here. Listen.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I'm in the car last weekend after the Nebraska game
and my producer on the radio was say, is Dave
Archery and West Durham still there for Atlanta? I said, yeah,
they're still there, man, They've been there for how many
years now?
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Arch twenty two seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Twenty two seasons doing the darned thing.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Okay, bring a whole lot of carryover from when you
and I played in the early to mid two thousands,
but he was doing it at that time.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The problem is I called all you guys' games too.
That's the problem problem about. Thank you Shock for that.
And obviously there's a lot of people that contribute to
making that happen, but Westernham is the best play by
play guy bar None And I'm gonna just say I've
worked with a number of guys. I know you've worked
with a number of guys as well.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Rack.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You have to Shock the guy's energy and what he
brings the table. He's the voice of the Falcons. I
just get a chance to piggyback with him, So I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Congratulations Arch into all of you on your crew. So,
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That's shocked. That's arch. I'm rack. Thanks so much for
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Unfortunately zero in that game.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Gentlemen, I don't know about you guys the last two days,
but I've fielded a ton of questions about did you
watch the Falcons game.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like I mean that those are It seems like that
is the question that everybody's been asking.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So guess what, DJ, I'm gonna throw it.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Back at you.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Hey, DJ, come on, shot.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I figured out what happened.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Bro, what's so crazy is? Man is I got like buddies.
I got friends who are like die hard Falcon fans
and they text me and it's like the sky has fallen.
We gotta I had to do text me and say shop,
tell me truth, pink slip tomorrow right, I'm like, bro.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
One guy asked me, hey, oh week three, Oh week
week three, it's Kirk Starr next week. I'm like, bro,
come on, like for like, yeah, it was a bad
day at the office. It happens, and I don't know
if you know, fans hate to see it. I had
to realize that I know thirty and none. That's probably
the bottom of the barrel. And you don't expect your
team to play like that, and just they look from
(02:00):
a lot of different facets, but it happens. You have
bad days, you play badly. I think if you've ever
played a sport, if you've ever done something you're really
passionate about, you've had a day where things did not
go your way, and that's exactly what happened with our
fougers on Sunday. Everything possible did not go our way,
and we end up, you know, losing the ball game
(02:21):
and we're gonna go through. But there are a lot
of things that you can point out. There are a
lot of situations in the game. There are a lot
of things that you say, you know, what we could
have done better at that, we could have you know,
played a little bit better in this spot. But ultimately,
in this day and age, where you're in week three,
you get a chance to go do it again next week,
improve yourself again. And you look at the week before
(02:42):
you play sunlit football. You go be a really good
team on the road, You come up next week and
you don't play your best football. Now you get a
chance to play another really good team and you get
to play them at home, and you get a chance
to kind of kind of lick your wounds a little
bit and get back to work. And that's a great
thing about having this season is it's earlier u where
you can make some changes and you can try to
(03:03):
write the ship.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Hey, shock, guys, I'm still in fan Moult here. Arch
Arch but here's the problem, Like, how how did it happen?
After they come off of the performance against Minnesota, like
they played so good? How does that happen in the
very next week?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That's the follow up question.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Yeah, it is. And styles make fights obviously, and and
and certain certain things go your way in games that
change the ebb and flow of the game, maybe change
your game plan.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Shock touched on a lot of it in the fact that, Okay,
do we do we have a problem? Yes, the thing
that I think you immediately have to do. Okay, what
what went wrong? And how do we go about fixing it?
And I think the Atlanta is in the process of
the Falcons are in the process of trying to do that.
They've made some adjustments and we'll talk about those. But ultimately,
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you got a young quarterback that just played a sixth game. Okay,
I think back to my career. My sixth game, I
didn't know where I was coming or going, you know,
and and to do all the things you have to
do nowadays the process, get plays called process, get the
line of scrimmage, change things. It's so situational now. Shock
(04:09):
at the line of scrimmage as far as what you do,
so that part of the process needs to be helped out,
and I think they've tried to address some of that.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
But.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
The ebb and flow of a season, if you don't
bring your best, you can get embarrassed. And I remember
my first year as a starter here we started four
and oh and we got shut out by the Eagles
at home, and we were averaging thirty two points a
game on offense and we lost seventeen to nothing. And
you're thinking, I'm sure the fan went home going what
did I just see? The next week we came out
(04:43):
and beat the Rams and we're off and running again.
So things can flow back and forth. You just got
to make sure see nobody had seen Michael have a
bad day. I mean he's had some bally off, he's
had some bad practices. This just in John L Joe Montana.
I mean, go down the line.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No way, I had bad days, had bad days.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
How about Lamar Jackson last night? Yeah, right in the
Monday night game, right, he didn't have a great game.
Hei they got sack seven times. You know he's an
MVP caliber player. Now, granted they scored points, but everybody
has bad performances and fellas. Here's kind of some of
the conversations that I was having with some people recently, is,
you know, we all live in the Southeast, right, so
we're privy to the SEC football on the college level.
(05:27):
And here's the difference in the college level in my opinion, Right,
Georgia can play Austin p or Tennessee can play East
Tennessee State and they can play bad and they'll still
win because they're just better players. They just have supremely
higher talent on their roster. Okay, the NFL is completely different.
(05:47):
That you play a team that's OZ and two guess
what they got some ball players on their team.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Okay, they have Pro.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Bowl caliber players, they have superstars. They have coaches that
are very good, play callers, understand schemes, understand how to
attack previous week's game film. And if you don't bring
your a game every week, it doesn't matter what the
opponent record is because the guys on the other team
are fighting for a job every single week too. They
want to stay on the roster, much like everybody player
(06:16):
on the Atlanta Falcons roster does. They want to stay
on the roster. So that's the difference, in my opinion,
between the college game and the NFL game is if
you don't bring your a game or if everything is off,
you will get embarrassed. And it's happened to I had
to go back and look fellas and in my career
actually three times six years with the Falcons, two with Seattle,
I got shut out three times.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
And you guys know how those weeks are afterwards. Shock.
Tell everybody that has not had the.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Privy of being in a building the week after you
get smoked, what is life like the next week at
practice after a game like that?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I guess if the best thing that I can use
is you come home and you've said something to your
wife and you know you ultimately regret it, and you
come home and you're walking on eggshells. That's kind of
how it is walking in the building again. It's like, man,
it could be some real changes. Some guys could really
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have their jobs and job and the tough part about
it is we would always have what a lot of
teams have now, which is like a tele truth Monday
or I mean, we came in and it was team
mean first thing and you put up all the things
in front of your teammates everything that went wrong or
a guy not hustling or a guy not doing his job,
and you put it right there on front Street, so
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everybody knows exactly where you're staying and what is the
standard of what should be. And when you came off
a game like that, there's nobody who can hold their
head high and say, you know what, I did my
job right, because you better not say that, because obviously
you ain't do good enough a job to help the
guy next to you, or you could have done more.
And there's always that in every single ball game, period.
But when you get shut out like that, there is
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a new found respect that you gotta have for the
job that you're doing. And I think you got to
attack it a little bit differently because obviously you didn't
bring your lunch pail that week, and you got to
make sure that you do better the next week. So
it's always one of those tougher weeks because everybody feels
the wrath of what just happened, and quite frankly, you
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feel embarrassed and you have to find a way to
get out the snide and nobody wants to feel that way.
Everybody's got some pride about theirselves, especially at this level.
And like you mentioned, everybody's good, but you expect to
still be very competitive. And if you don't score or
you don't go out and play what you're supposed to,
you gotta you gotta, you gotta bring a different mindset.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, these moments are gonna will test what you've built, okay,
And there's a pretty good feeling about what the chemistry
and the culture, if you want to use that word
is about. This will test that. Okay. You usually find
more out about yourself. And I don't care what walk
of life you're in when adversity strikes, as opposed to
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when everything's going good. Right, So every thing was going
good last week, now it's not and it's gone completely
the other direction. How do you respond? And if you
have the right culture and the right guys, which I
think you do, I think that ultimately those guys are
going to respond and they're going to double down, as
Shock was talking about, on their effort. It's a team game,
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but individually, what do I need to do to take
it to another level? And it's not just the players,
it's the coaches and everybody coming together, but taking their
individual piece and saying Okay, we got to reapply here.
We didn't get things done last week to our level
of expertise. We need to redouble down on that kind
of stuff. And I think that's the thing you hope for.
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That's what the thing you hope you've built so when
you get embarrassed, and that was an embarrassing loss. You
had two phases of the game that really didn't play
anywhere near NFL caliber football, and your defense tried to
hold onto the rope the best they could, but the
vow broke.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've said this many a times and I'll say this
again after a performance like this, is the last thing
that I'm going to do, and I think us three
are going to do up here, is make excuses, because
you make excuses in the National Football League, and that's
what gets you cut and that's what gets you beat.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The one thing I can say that I would say
I appreciate is listening to Raheem Morris's press conference along
with Michael Pennix, and yet they did ask him the
questions about the headset and stuff. But both the head
coach and the quarterback, we're not making any excuses about
the headset. They said, that's not the reason why we
lost the game. We got to be better. We've got
to find a way to work through situations like that.
(10:35):
Michael Pennocks, you young quarterback, took a lot of responsibility,
owned up to it. Yeah, I missed some passes. I'm
not going to make excuses as to why I got
to play better. I got to hit those passes. Your
head coach saying that he's got to do things better.
We had a good week of practice, but apparently it
wasn't good enough. We're gonna have to so so to
your point, generally, practice this week is going to be
ratcheted up a little bit more and the smiles on
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the people's faces will not be present too much this week, Archie,
you alluded to it. A couple of changes that have
come down for the organization. Atlanta Falcons have decided to
release wide receiver coach I Killiard, so TJ. Yates, who's
been the wide receiver coach here previously back in twenty
two and twenty three, he will take over the wide
receiver coach duties for the rest of the season. He
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was the passing game coordinator as well as bringing Zach
Robinson from the booth down from the field.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Those two changes.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
What do you think that does for the players on
the offense as far as the message sent and how
the adjustments now on the sideline are going to happen
differently versus when Robinson was upstairs.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, you just mentioned the first piece of it. Message sent.
We're not standing pat. That was unacceptable. We just put
out there as a product for our fan base, for
us as a team. We're gonna we're gonna do some
things to rattle the cages a little bit. The receiver
corps have not been what they year were a year ago.
Let's be honest. Those guys are not making enough plays.
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Is it because of routes run? Is it because they're
spacing and distribution? Well, that's going to be addressed. That's
going to be looked at. And so unfortunately, I kill
your is released, and so you move on from there.
Zach Robinson coming down from my perspective, puts him face
to face with his young quarterback. It's one thing to
get on the headset and talk to the guy upstairs
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and you go over a couple of things, look at
the pad and all this kind of stuff. But when
he's sitting right next to you and he can look
in your face and he can see some of the concerns,
some of those kind of things. There's a human element
attached that, just like he is in practice, Zach Robinson's
standing right next to him in practice. This is a
guy that's played six football games in National Football League?
How much can I help him do his job? And remember,
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the headset cuts off at fifteen seconds. I can't talk
to him if I'm on the sideline and he's not sure.
Now I don't have to relay it to one guy
and then him relay it out to or he can't
even really he's trying to yell, pull his headset down
to yell. Now I'm there and we can talk to
one another. So it simplifies the operation. I think there'll
be some some other things that they'll do to help
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simplify for Michael what he's going to have to do
on the field. And I'm sure the coaches are going
through their process of Okay, how much do I need?
How much more do I need to get the play
in a little bit sooner. They're evaluating all the situations here.
They know this is unaccepted, it's unacceptable to their standard,
So what can we do to help Michael be better.
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And some of it has to do with the guys
playing around him better. A lot of it has to
do with the guys playing around him better. And then
how do I help with the process of getting plays
in and out, getting people in and out so I
can simplify it so all he has to do is
call it and get the line of scrimmage so he
can start to process what's happening.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
At the line of scrim To your point, archs Rahie
Moore said that in his Monday press conference, is that
everybody around Michael's got to play better. It wasn't just
on Michael Pennick. Yeah, he was fifty percent, but he
said after they looked at the tape, everybody in this
offense has got to play better around him. I want
to get your opinion, shock, have you had an opportunity,
either in your college and or NFL playing career where
you had a offensive play caller up in the box
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and one down on the sideline, and what your experience
has been with either or both of them.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, I've had both in college and here with the
Falcons where you had a guy up in the booth
you had got down for me I thought having a
guy who was on the field was big too. Obviously,
like ARJ mentioned for everything, he mentioned that part of
the communication I think is a little bit different because
you can actually talk like straight to the guy's face
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and he could see some of the things that like,
sometimes we failed to realize the emotion of the game
that's going on right in the midst of it. And
sometimes you can talk to a guy upstairs and you
can hear him talk, and you know, you can have
a conversation and say, all right, this is what we're
gonna do, and the guy says, okay. But if I'm
sitting next to you and we're going through stuff and
I can see you, maybe your eye goes a little
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here it goes and you have a little bit of
trying to figure out what's going on. I can understand
and notice that while I'm on the sideline, And I
had coaches who could could see that and notice that,
and then they would say, did you not like that?
Was that something that you know? Was you know, you
want to work on you or you want to find
something better? And I think that's part of the equation,
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is just the feel of it. Down on the field.
There's something different than being down and being up. Now,
a lot of teams have successful guys being up in
the box, get up in the booth and made to
talk to it because you have somebody down on the
ground like a twoja two, you know, can be the
enemary between both of them. But I think this is
just a situation where, like argument, you got a younger quarterback,
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You got to offensive coordinator who is going into his
second year of calling plays, and you want to make
sure that the entire communication from how you feel situationally,
what's going on in the game, everything is how you
want to be once you hit the ball game, how
you hit the field. So I think it's a lot
to him coming down. We'll see how it, you know,
actually transfers over if there's a change.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
But you know, I'm glad they're looking for solutions to
the situations.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
A great point shock, they're looking for something to do.
And people say, well, yeah, but Zach was upstairs last
year when Michael played his three games. From a scenario standpoint, okay,
here you're getting your young quarterback and he's getting to
play at the end of the season, and so there
was a different kind of flavor to that he now
is your starting guy and you're trying to go make
make the playoffs. Not that you weren't trying to make
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the playoffs, but you're up against it a little bit
late in the year last year where everything had to
break for you to make that happen. This is a
scenario where early in the year and you're trying to
go win a division. You're going to try and to
and so how your quarterback's feeling about stuff. Shock makes
a great point in that I can look at you, Rack,
and I can see in your eyes what's going on.
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I don't want to get weird with it or anything
like that, but we're if we're on the pad and
you're trying to talk to me from upstairs and you say,
you see the linebacker here, you know, I can actually
point to stuff. I can visially, we can have a
physical interaction here. Look right here. This is what I
want you to look at. That little piece of communication.
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Albeit you may think it's true, that's a big deal.
And you got certain amount of time between series to
try to figure out what's going on, so you can
make that adjustment. Here's where your eyes should be, you know,
and you try to say that from upstairs, but I
can physically show him there's there's something to that. Obviously,
the Falcons Feelercaud's something to it. That's why they made this,
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made this move. Let's hope it works, you know, because
you do the thing that I love what Shaques said.
They're not letting it just fester and say, Okay, it'll
be better next week. They're saying, no, let's address it.
Let's help our quarterback the best we can.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You know, one final comment I want to make on
Carolina and then we're gonna move on.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Is a lot of people again in the last two days,
have been asking me, well, how do we fix this?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's like you have a performance like this and everybody
wants to know what's the fix. Okay, Well, first of
allf we had the fix, we probably wouldn't be sitting
here for the microphones right. Second of all, the fix
in the NFL isn't always just right in front of you, right.
It's not just oh, it's a two or three different
play calls, or it's a catch here or there. Like
a game like last weekend was a lot of things
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that did not go right. We didn't even get into
special teams, and we had a kicker that went five
or five the first week in zero for two the
second week, and the very first opportunity we had missed
the field goal. Kind of brings the whole mood down
a little bit. Right, didn't play good in the return game, Okay,
so it kind of goes back to the first week
of the season. I'm going to go first here and
then I want to get your guys' opinion, because I
think it's two things that are not necessarily x's and
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o's on the football field in a situation like this.
I think it's number one. It's accountability. Like you as
a player and you as a coach, got to be
accountable for what you're doing, and you kind of talked
about it a little bit earlier. You can't be the
player that's saying, well, I did my job well?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Did you do your job?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Did you make your teammate next to you better? Did
you get the tackle when you had an arm out
there and he ended up breaking through the arm and
you could have brought your legs better, right, A lot
of different areas and accountability, which means you need to
step your level of play up unless you want to
get embarrassed like that again. Number two is leadership, and
I think this both from the veterans on the team
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and guess what he can also come from your second
year quarterback that has been elected a captain. I'm just
saying it doesn't have to be a guy that's in
a six or seventh year. Leadership comes in different forms,
but accountability leadership can work together if guys are saying, fellas,
this is not good enough, this is not our standard,
and we are not going to get embarrassed like this again.
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And so when it go, when you go out to
the practice field, when you start challenging people. I'll never
forget shock Nakobe Dean that won to play on the
field where he went and grabbed one of his teammates
by the front of his jersey and got all up
in his face mask and I don't know what he said,
but I'm sure there was some choice words that was
something like, we don't do that here right. Sometimes those
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statements is what really gets.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Somebody like, oh, he ain't playing right.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And I'll never forget like hearing the stories about how
Tom Brady would basically say, if you don't do this right,
you will not be on the field with me. Right,
If I can't count on you to do this or
or do it this way, you will not be on
the field. When people step up like that, Like to me,
that's a different level of leadership. So to me, guys,
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accountability and leadership arch maybe more big picture or what
the fix is. But what do you think needs to
happen this week so that type of performance doesn't happen again?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Well, I think it starts the first day they go
out there and practice. They did a little bit on Monday.
We're recording this on a Tuesday. This is the player's
day off. I've already seen a ton of players here already.
You guys talked about accountability. What can I do to
make sure I step it up? And I think that
sometimes it's not necessarily maybe grabbing a guy by the
scruff of the neck. It's actually when I come in,
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I already see Michael doing this, or I already see
Drake London doing that, or John Robinson or Kaden Ellis,
And so when I get here, I see that they
step things up a little bit and there's a sense
of urgency to go about our business a little bit
different way. Double down, I said, Double down on what
your effort can be and that becomes the team concept
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of it. But the thing that you cannot do is
and I know that fans do this and that's why
they're fans. Is you panic. Okay, you've got to understand that. Okay,
our work ethic is this what didn't we do last week.
Let's make sure we make the adjustments to that, both
coach and player, and then we apply that. Because you
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start panicking now all of a sudden, it puts second
guessing in your mind. You can't second guess how to
read a route. I understand Michael Pennicks drops to throw.
This is how we're reading this route. I can't all
of a sudden start second guessing that. But if i
have a sense of urgency at receiver and I'm getting
into my routes, and I'm helping my quarterback from a
spacing standpoint, and I'm working my rear end off from
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a protection standpoint, just to give them that little extra time,
and I get that play in where he gots a
chance to process what's going on the line of scrimmage,
then everybody's working in concert with one another to take
it to another level.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Shock What comes to your mind and that like kind
of big pick sure, like how does this team rebound
from a performance like this so it doesn't happen again.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I think you guys have been spot on with what
you talked about, especially both of you guys talking about accountability.
Part about doing it and not being one is just
talking about it, just showing by action. I think that's
a big part. I think the other part it goes,
you know, kind of on the line of what you
guys just talked about. But I think each guy has
to be honest with their self about what happened in
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the ball game. And I think you go back you
watch the filmily, like you mentioned, there's spots where you know, what, hey,
we've said a million times is just to play that
I could have did something better that could affect it,
maybe the outcome of a series. Maybe this was a
situation where I could have played a little bit better,
play a little bit harder, or you know, ran to
the football a bit hard, whatever the situation may be.
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I think I had to be honest with yourself first,
and then the second part about it is what I
think they've already done. And I've seen tons of interviews.
I've seen arts talking to them after the game. A
lot of guys did a really good job of encouraging
and being there for their other brother. Obviously, Michael Pennings
have the day they wanted, and I heard every guy
to a t talk about how they still believe in him.
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The comments they have, they know what he's about. And
I think you have to have some of that within
your team to go to those guys and say, you
know what, this wasn't the best week, but guess what,
we still believe in you. And as a young guy,
that would go a long way from me that here's
a guy that's playing in the league ten years and
he's coming to encourage me. I heard Bijian talking about it.
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I heard Katy Nelly's talking about it. You got guys
who are in those leadership roles and they're going to
pick their guys up because the end of the day,
it's hard to get away from the social media. It's
hard to get away from what everybody's saying. Everybody's got
family members that's called him asking him what happened, Oh
what about this guy? This guy played terrible. But I
think the biggest thing and the best thing you could
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do is find a way to encourage your teammates and
then you do all the things like you guys talked
about taking it to the next step of doing the
extra work, being accountable. All those things have to go
hand in hand together if you want to turn this around.
And like we mentioned, there's a lot of things you
can go the other way would it do And I
don't think this is a team that will do that.
This is not a stab. You don't have a head
coach who will go the other way. And the first
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thing you guys mentioned, Ray Moore's straightforward what he told
you exactly what it was and what they got to do.
And they've already made the changes. Now we move on
and we make those changes.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Confidence is a funny thing, right yep. I mean it's
a little word or you know, a word that you
think confidence, And it's pretty easy to say. This game
is played at light speed. Most throws come out inside
three seconds, and so it's hard to translate that to
the fan as to how quickly the game is played,
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how quick the guys are on the other side of
the ball. And if I can, if I play with confidence,
then I'm playing on time. Maybe I'm playing ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
But if I play with a little bit less confidence
or a lack of confidence, I'm late, and account late
will get you in this game. It'll be a pick six,
it'll be a you know, a misstep and not get
in the hole. It'll be a mistackle that you talked about.
Confidence is a funny thing. And if you can manifest
confidence by the guys that are playing around you, picking
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guys up whereever it is, and then doubling down in
your own effort, but it can. It can ebb and flow,
and it ebbs and flows for younger players more than
does older players because older players have the experience of
playing through some of that adversity. If you're in your
first year of starting, which essentially Michael Pennix is and
some guys around him are young players as well, that
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confidence can go up and down the scale a little
bit more. Even though he's a he's a confident dude,
it's still he's a human being. It's going to so
the more you can make him feel confident about what
he's doing, the better you're gonna play, and the quicker
you're going to play.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Shack.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You mentioned move on, so let's go ahead and move
on to the next team that's on the schedule. Falcons
are going to face off at home, so after two
weeks playing on the road, that'll be back here in
Atlanta and they're going to be playing the Washington Commanders,
who ended up getting their second victory of the season
this past weekend over the Las Vegas Raiders forty one
twenty four. Albeit Shock with a quarterback not named Jayden
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Daniels last weekend, it was one that's somewhat familiar to
the Atlanta Falcons organization, and Marcus Mariota was a very
emotional win for him. I was interviewed after the game,
and I think his journey and some of the stumbles
that he's had to go through kind of hit him
all at one time. But the Commanders played well last
weekend against Vegas. So my question to you, Shock is
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what is the animal? Obviously it wasn't too long ago
the Atlanta Falcons faced the Washington Commanders on the road
Sunday Night Football last year at the end of the season,
so they know this organization. Obviously the head coach spent
a lot of time here as well. What is the
animal that the Falcons are facing, whether it is Jaden
Daniels or it's Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Well, I think it starts with the head coach. Optionally,
we know dan Quinton really well. We know what kind
of coach he is, we know what kind of man
he is, and he's going to have his team fully prepared.
They're going to be a well coached team. And we've
seen that. We saw that last year and we know
he's a tough dude. I mean, did we see Marcus
Mariola run through dan Quinn on the side, hit the ground, everything,
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bleeding from his nose and everything. I mean, we saw
all that, and uh, but you know this is a
team that was obviously deep in the playoffs last year.
A lot of the same characters on that team. Now,
obviously the quarterback is another scenario, uh in its own right.
But like you mentioned, you got a guy who and
Marcus Mariola who has been through it. He went through
it here, and I think anybody who is going through
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that kind of adversity and now you're on the other
side of it, there's a new found respect for the game.
There's a new found respect for how you play the game.
And I think given this extra opportunity with a guy
that he knows he wants to take full advantage of it,
and I think that permeates what we just talked about
through his teammates around him and everybody playing to that
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kind of Standard's gonna be one of those type of
ball games in Washington's a good football team and we've
seen that. We've seen it last year's seen it this year. Obviously,
they got a three auded monster running back of Christopher Reguez,
the court Crosskey Merritt, and you know Jerrywin Nichols. I mean,
three different style of guys. Mariota fifteen to twenty one.
Last week two hundred seven yard didn't turn the football over. Obviously,
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they bring in Deebo Samuel. You know the physicality that
he brings, you know, the attitude that he brings to
an offense, and the multiple ways they try to get
him the football. Still got scary Terry over there. You
know Zach this this is Zach Er. This is an
offense that has weapons and similar to you look at us,
same similar thing, but the level that they're playing at
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is a little bit different from this week to what
we've seen in the past. So this is a team
in Washington that is is the mindset for them is, hey,
we're a team that was a couple of plays away
from going to the Super Bowl. We feel good about
where we are. So obviously the Bobby Wagner's on the
other side, the experienced guys you got there too. I mean,
they got a D line that's we've seen some really
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good defensive players. They got two or three of those
guys on that D line that you got to worry about.
So this is gonna be a tough tax. This is
gonna be a game that you know, you got to
make sure you bring your hard heads. And if you're
worried about what happened last week, oh yeah, guess what,
this team will make it feel even worse because they're
just as good too. So come to this ball.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Game, Archie.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I don't know if you wanted to talk about the
Commander's offense or defense, but I was just gonna kind
of lead you to there's some dudes on this defensive side, now,
Bobby Wagner, as you mentioned, Frankie Louvu by the way,
von Miller ended up in Washington, Marshaun Lattimore's there. I mean,
they've got some players that are Pro Bowlers, that are
tackling machines that are former Super Bowl MVPs, like they've
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got some legit talent on that side of the ball.
So if there was a struggle with Michael Pennox last
year or last week, competing fifty percent of his passes,
it's not going to get a whole lot easier in
the next game.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
No, it's not. And we know that the week in
and week out, if you don't bring your best, you're
in trouble. And this is a Washington team is playing
with a lot of confidence, you said, Ross Shock. This
is a team that a lot of people feel like
is going to be in the mix to potentially end
up in that last game.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Of the year.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Albeit their quarterback a little bit banged up. Don't know
if Jaden Daniels will go, but Marcus Mariota filled in admirably.
It's a defense that's been pushed around a little bit
in the first three weeks. Guys, there's teams that have
moved the football on them. Obviously, it'll be paramount for
us to get Tyler Algiar and Jean Robinson going in
the run game. That always helps. A quarterback need to
be able to run the football the game kind of
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got a little bit out of whack in the second
half of the Carolina game, and you had to kind
of fight your way back in the game, maybe with
the passing game, and got a little bit away from
two of your best players. You need to keep the
game in perspective there. To me, the game is going
to hinge a lot on how Atlanta handles Washington's running game.
Washington comes in the number two offense in the league,
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run into football in the first three weeks of the season,
and so I don't care who's playing quarterback. It's talked
about the best friend of a quarterback as a running game.
Can you limit the run game to where they only
have to throw the ball twenty times in the game?
You said Mariota was what fifteen to twenty one with
very similar to remember Michael Pennick threw the ball what
twenty three times against Minnesota because you were running the football.
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So Atlanta's pretty good against the run.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
They've been.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I think we're tenth in the league right now, and
I no, numbers don't get are kind of skewed because
we're early on in the year. This is a defense
is playing at a high level. You go back to
the Carolina game. Atlanta gave up sixty one yards on
the opening drive that ultimately netted the touchdown run by
Bryce Young. After that, in twenty eight minutes of football,
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they gave up one hundred and sixty three yards of offense.
That's winning football. They're playing winning football on that side.
That to me is the matchup that I'm looking at
is the Reds almost they'll do. I actually played a
couple of season so the Washington Commander run game versus
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the Falcon run defense to allow those young guys to
get after the passer at some point control the quarterback
in the pocket. We've still had problems with that, and
we're going to see more and more players. Bryce Young
got out for a touchdown run. We know Baker Mayfield
hurt us a little bit. These guys, both these guys
want to get out and run with the ball, So
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you got to make sure you take.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Care of that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Listen, fellas, I don't know about you, but as a
broadcaster that's been around for a while, like I still
call San Diego Chargers Oakland Raiders every once so while,
I get tripped up on Saint Louis Rams and I
came into the league.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Saint Louis Rams were in our division.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Okay, you talked about Wathington like these things happen on occasion. Okay,
these names have all change. Some people have been born
that listened to this podcast. You never knew what it
was before. You might have heard about it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Used to the St. Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
He even goes further back.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, but you're right, Arch. I mean two hundred one
yards rushing for the Commanders in their game last week.
A lot of that aided because Marcus Mariota can do
some similar things that Jaden Daniels can. He can get
outside of the pocket. He ended up having forty rushing
yards in that game last weekend against the Raiders. Is
this game shock a lot more simple in the sense
that this is more about Atlanta and not so much
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about what Washington is going to do? Like, is this
one of those where it's short term memory? Got to
learn from last week? They had a whole week of practice,
put it behind them, and then as you talked about
play with the confidence and go let it loose against Washington,
to play freely and go out and make plays.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Rack, I say, you know, usually about eighty nine percent
I will say, yes, it's all about this team. It's
all about Atlanta. I would say it's more sixty to
forty Atlanta to Washington, because, yeah, okay, you got to
care yourself first, which is understanding me. So you got
some stuff that happened in this past ball game that
you have to correct. We've went through that. But then
there's also the opponent that you must go against that
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is really darn good. And we talked about some players
on both sides of the ball that you just come
and say, a, right, we're not really worrying about this guy.
We got to make sure we do it. We do Oh,
you're gonna lose sight of exactly who you're playing and
what it's about. So I think, yeah, you gotta go.
You gotta do the things that are the details of
what makes you a really good football team. But it's
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also in the same light of okay, I gotta do
it within the framework of stopping this opposing team and
what they do really well. Like ARJ mentioned, you can't
come in here and say, you know what, we got
some really good pass rush. We're gonna let them dodes
go because if you get outside your rush lanes, they
gonna make you hurt. It's gonna be one of those
kind of games if you come in and say, you
know what, we ran the ball really well first Minnesota,
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We're just gonna try to pound these guys, and then
that may not happen with this front seven you got,
you got linebackers we know this league that are downhill,
that are run, they are physical. Maybe it's about some
play action. Maybe it's about you know, using some things
that's gonna play with their hide. So I think it's
part of, yeah, what you do, but then also you
got to play to what they do as well to
kind of help you move this ball game alone.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
The human piece of this. Okay, I wanna throw this
out at you guys. How important is the juice in
the building on Sunday when this fan base is a
little upset, a little upset, a lot upset with what
they saw this last Sunday and things start a little
bit slow and maybe you know that really good crowd
(35:10):
that can show up at Mercedes Benz begins to start
feeling uneasy about thinking how important is the juice in
the building this weekend?
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think it's huge an arch to as soon as
you started talking about that I said, the first thing
that came to my mind is the Falcon's got to
create the juice, Like you can't wait for it, Like,
don't wait for the fans to be there.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And help bail you out of a tough situation.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Like go go, make them get give them a reason
to get on their feet, give them a reason to
get loud if you end up getting that opening kickoff,
Like take that thing straight down the field, get into
the red.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Zone, catch it first, catch it first.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well done done, Okay, gotta field the kickoff, well all right,
go all the way down the field, get into the
red zone.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Falcons didn't even get into the.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Red zone last weekend against Carolina, And punch it in
for a touchdown and give them a reason to get
excited about what they're going to seek for. Call it
the next fifty five minutes in the right. You can't
just sit there and sit back and say we're home
this week and they're gonna be ruckus and it's going
to be difficult. No, give them a reason to make
it a difficult environment.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Absolutely, And I go back to what was it, second
third play the ball game to start the season, and
we throw it out of there to that right flight
and goes great And how crazy was that? I mean,
that was like a man, it's real nice in here,
you know what I mean. You got the flags flying,
everybody's we got the music going dirty bird next is rocking,
(36:32):
and it gives you a different energy. And guess what
that was presented. That was happened because of what you
did on the field. So I think it's a great
point that your play can bring that out. And of
course you would love the fans to be there, but
you gotta be honest. I'm a fan of a lot
of things too, and sometimes things good have to happen
(36:54):
for me to be really into it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
They want to go off, As you said, you got
to give them a reason to go off. They want
to go off. You gotta give my reason too, good yo.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
And we also got to give him a reason in
the fourth quarter to get that swag surf on, because
I will.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Tell you, if they ain't playing well, they don't do it.
They're playing well. That gets that gets that gets at
l back in the house.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah, okay, so no doubt.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
All right, that's gonna do it here for.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Go ahead. One last thing. We got to give some
flowers to this guy right here, his group. Uh, that's
why he's one of the one of the best in
the league. My dude right here earned himself a gabby,
you know what I'm saying him West Doom for Morgan, congratulations,
well deserved. My brother on the gabby, appreciate, appreciate. Art
was doing this thing for a long time, and he's
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one of the best in the league. And if you're
not watching, if you're watching the game, you should turn
that off and listen to these guys. You're gonna learn
so much during the game, So well deserve. Arch had
to get your flas when we get out of here. Listen.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I'm in the car last weekend after the Nebraska game
and my producer on the radio was say, is Dave
Archery and West Durham still there for Atlanta? I said, yeah,
they're still there, man, They've been there for how many
years now?
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Arch twenty two seasons.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Twenty two seasons doing the darned thing.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Okay, bring a whole lot of carryover from when you
and I played in the early to mid two thousands,
but he was doing it at that time.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
The problem is I called all you guys' games too.
That's the problem problem about. Thank you Shock for that.
And obviously there's a lot of people that contribute to
making that happen, but Westernham is the best play by
play guy bar None And I'm gonna just say I've
worked with a number of guys. I know you've worked
with a number of guys as well.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Rack.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
You have to Shock the guy's energy and what he
brings the table. He's the voice of the Falcons. I
just get a chance to piggyback with him, So I
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Congratulations Arch into all of you on your crew. So,
as I mentioned, that's gonna do it. Here for the
Falcons Audible presented by AT and T. This is your
midweek Falcons podcast. By the way, don't forget on Mondays,
we've got the Final Whistle, so on you can start
your week with a podcast. You've got your midweek here
with us. And then of course we've got the Friday
five on what day of the week that happens on
(38:55):
Fridays Right Wednesday, Monday.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Don't forget the pregame show Man can coming Sundays like.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
October all the content.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, all right, so you got Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
It's just it's just coming at you. Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
That's gonna wrap it up for the valcons adeo presented
by AT and T.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's shocked. That's arch. I'm rack. Thanks so much for
joining us.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
We'll see you next week to recap the Washington Commanders game.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Okay, baby,
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