October 6, 2025 • 35 mins
Dan Hoard recaps Sunday’s loss to the Lions with radio replays, locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this week’s “Fun Facts” conversation, you’ll get to know rookie linebacker Barrett Carter.
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Addition is the Bengals rally late before losing to the
Lions thirty seven to twenty four Coming up. Radio replays,
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let's get to the radio replays. The first half was
a rough one for Jake Browning as he threw a
pair of interceptions that gave the Lions the ball in
Bengals territory. Browning looking to throw his pass, who picked
off intercepted by a make Robertson defending Jamar Chase and
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Detroit will take over at the seventeen of Cincinnati. Despite
the picks, the defense kept the Bengals alive. Trey Hendrickson
had a stripsack and the Lions punted three times before halftime,
allowing Cincinnati to hang in there before scoring. On the
final play of the half. Rookie long snapper William Wagner
will fire it back, trying to put Cincinnati on the board.
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On the final play of the second quarter, Moneymack is ready,
so is Rico. Rico extending the hand, catches a high snap.
Here comes the kick from Evan McPherson, and he slams
it through the uprights from fifty yards away with ease.
Moneymack a perfect five for five on his field goal
tries this season, and the Bengals trail at the half
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fourteen to three. Cincinnati got the ball to begin the
third quarter, but instead of scoring again to build momentum,
Browning through another backbreaking I int. Browning drops back to
throw steps into a throw up the scene intercept it
third pick of the day, Anzelonei running it back, stiff
arms Jamar Chase Jamar gets him out of bounds inside
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the thirty yard line. That interception led to a touchdown,
and by the end of the third quarter, the Lions
scored another to lead twenty eight to three. Browning now
has eight interceptions in four games this year.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think most of mine are trying to force plays,
you know, frustration. I wanted to push the ball on
the field, and you know, I got to pick my
spots better through three picks that were just bad. And
there's no hiding from that. It was bad football for me,
trying to force things that aren't there and as a result,
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just completely screwing over you know, the team, and it hurts,
like there's no way to hide from it. It hurts,
and you know, I did not play well enough to
give our chance a team to win, and it's just brutal.
I need to play better and there's literally no hiding
from that. And I don't care if every person on
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the team says they need to play better, Like it
starts with me playing better at the quarterback position and
not putting our team in difficult situations. And there's no
hiding from that. So like I let the whole team down,
and I feel like I let the fans down, and
you know, like I said, there's no hiding from that.
Like I did not play well enough to win the
game today, and I need to find ways to improve
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and I will. You know, I'm never going to fold
or anything like that. Like I'm going to spend a
a lot of time here in the facility this week
trying to find ways to get better and put us
in a situation where we can win some games.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it hurts, and it should.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And you know, I feel a great responsibility to get
back on track. And I think for me, anytime I'm
going through something difficult, it's just, you know, double down
on work ethic and you know, see it all the
way through. And whether it gets better or not, you
know who that's to be determined and that's the unknown.
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But I will not be because of lack of effort
and lack of dedication to trying to get better and
put our team in better situations to win.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Find we on the fourth quarter, we saw the Jake
Browning who played so well in twenty twenty three and
who rallied the Bengals to victory in Week two versus Jacksonville,
as Cincinnati scored on three straight drives of sixty three
or more yards, crowding catches, the shotgun snap looking lap
Chase was covered. Now he's scrammed trying to avoid a sack.
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Browning cocks the arm, throws into the end zone. Chase
catches it. Did he get both feet down?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
He did? Touchdown Bengals Jamar Chase with Barishna coough like footwork.
If he was able to get his toes down in
the end zone.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right, I'm sure they're gonna probably take another look at it.
But tap tap, All you have to do is get
that one toe in bounds. That's a touchdown in anybody
who's league.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Third down and fourteen, the Bengals have the ball at
their own thirty six shotgun snap, four man rush. Browning
steps into a deep ball got from our.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Chases, open over the shoulder catch at the twenty, and
he will walk into the end zone for a sixty
four yard Bengals touchdown.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Big time right there, Big time play by a big
time wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Browning back at the seven, waiting for the snap from
Karis p Ryan is in the back. Chase motions out
live with the right. Browning looking left, throws into the
end to one a low throw. T Higgins goes down
and grabs it. Touchdown.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Bengals Jake Browning with his third touchdown.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Pass up the fourth quarter. Here's Zach Taylor on the
way Jake Browning and the team finished.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I'm glad he hung in there, made some plays, forced
down the stretch. Three straight touchdown drives at the end
of the game. I'm sure a lot of people wanted
him on the bench at that point. I could hear it.
And you stuck with him, and he comes back and
has three straight drives for touchdowns. And that's that's the
Jake Browning. I know he's resilient. He'll sara versity in
the face. You can count on them and keep bouncing back. Obviously,
there's we got to protect the ball better to be
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able to beat a team of that caliber. So we're
not going to run from that. But to sit here
and say I'm not proud of our football team for
the way that they fought back, that that wouldn't be true.
I'm extremely proud of these guys, the way that they
continue to fight and in the face of adversity when
it looks like it's real dim and all of a sudden,
there's some hope there that we can get this thing done.
And that's what this team's made of the five games
in that's what I'm counting on to get us through
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this the last twelve games where we can go win
some games. I'm not oblivious to what goes on in
the AFC and their division. There's going to be plenty
of opportunity there if we can just get through this
storm and stick together and find a way to put
some better positions on offense together and score some points.
And I'm absolutely confident that we will get this thing
turned around and fans will want to be in the
stands because I get it right now, they're going to
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want to be in the stands. And I look forward
to sold out crowds again, back to what we're used to,
and I promise you it's with every breath I got,
we're going to continue to work to get back to that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The final score was Detroit thirty seven Cincinnati twenty four.
Browning through for two hundred and fifty one yards with
three touchdowns and three picks. Jamar Chase was his leading
receiver with six catches for one hundred and ten yards
and two touchdowns. Here's what Jamar had to say after
the game.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We got to take advantage of every job, even the
first couple of drives. You know, we just made a
late at the end. You know it's too late.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It just remind you of what you guys are capable
of doing on offense after a couple of games. Uh,
we know who we care.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But at the end of the day, we just gotta
we gotta get there. That's what it's all about. Getting there.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Two touchdown catches for you in the fourth quarter, one
for Tege. Does it begin with trying to get you
two guys the ball as much as possible?
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I think we been doing that, you know. I think
it's just a tough task when everybody know what the
hell we doing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So you okay, maybe we gotta work harder get it,
get the ball to us. We gotta work harder as
a unit. Uh, and make make it look easier for Jake.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is it again, it's a last time you didn't celebrate
a Ted Chicago game? Mm v mm my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
What what's a light scoring touchdown on the most touchdown game?
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Just not feeling that he just saw. I wanted to
jump in the stands, but uh, we're losing. There's no
fun in me jumping in in the stands and doing
all the extra who red who row stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
When we losing?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Uh, especially as a cat, you know, the guys look
at me to hold my composure and be a leader,
and and at that moment, you know, the best thing
to do is just that bareverybody, I'm telling them, good
job and work on the next possession.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is a ball still fun for you right now? Or
is it just mostly frustrating?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Football is always fun, It's just not as fun when
you're losing. You facing adversity. We gotta keep we gotta
keep knocking the treat on til they fall. So just
gotta keep playing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Is it hard to tamp your frustration down for the
first three quarters?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Still something good happens?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean, it's just nothing's happening.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I play a lot of fire underneath me, man, and
I'll play with a lot of with a lot of emotion.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I let his game. I've always did let his game.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But you know, you you you're gonna get frustrated in
this game.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know you can.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You not gonna sit here and tell me you gonna
make a mistake and be happy about it. That's that's
that's not That's not how life works. At the end
of the day. If you make any mistake in life.
You're gonna be mad at it and try to do
it again later, but fix it. All I can do
is is just like I said, be positive, be a
cabinet to my guys, and just keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It feels strange to say it after the other team
scored thirty seven points, but the Bengals defense gave them
a chance by getting a takeaway and forcing the league's
best offense to punt five times. Detroit had seven possessions
with two or fewer first downs.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Our defense has given us what we needed these first
half of these games. It's hard to stay that out
of four quarters when there's turnovers and there's punts and
there's no points going on the board, especially against teams
like that in Denver, who can do a little bit
of everything and keep you on balance and call all
their fun things when they're play caller. Season's twenty one
to three. What's the worst thing that can happen if
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I call this play and it doesn't work. We're still
up twenty one to three. So we put them in
an incredibly difficult bind. And all they have done is
bow up and try to do everything they can to
keep our team in the game, and I got to
do a better job is to play caller to bail
them out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Trey Hendrickson had two of the Bengals four sacks, giving
him four and five games, but that didn't give him
much satisfaction after the loss.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Goals are to win the games, right, and there's a
lot to correct on film, and you know, we have
a resilient group. We're still finding that team identity. There's
a lot to be proud of on defense, and there's
a lot we need to correct on defense. So you know,
keep chopping wood, it'll break. You know, it's a National
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Football League. Hard work works. I'm a firm believer in that,
and you know I've done a good job of taking
care of my business. But that's not necessarily what it takes.
You know, we missed the playoffs over the last two years.
You know that's that's not where we want to be.
So I want to win as a captain and lead
these guys where we're supposed to go. So we got
a lot to fix. Like you said, there's some things
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that are good on tape. You know, pat yourself on
the back for a second, and then let's look at
the place that we need to fix because you got
to forget the good things quick, you got to forget
the bad things faster.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So here's how things look in the AFC nor the
Steelers had to buy and sit on top of the
division at three and one. The Bengals are still alone
in second at two and three. Without Lamar Jackson, the
Ravens lost at home to Houston forty.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Four to ten.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
As backup quarterback Cooper Rush through three interceptions. Baltimore is
one in four and faces the Rams next week. The
Browns are also one in four after losing to the
Vikings in London twenty one to seventeen. Cleveland has not
topped seventeen points in ten straight games going back to
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Now time for their radio guys recap Lap. The Bengals
came to life in the fourth quarter Jake Browning threw
three touchdown passes, two to Chase one to Higgins, but
in his news conference after the game, he was really
down on himself for the way he performed in the
first three quarters, basically saying he felt like his interceptions
cost the Bengals the game.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I can understand why he'd say that. You know, he's
the quarterback, he's the leader, the young questioned leader of
the football team. Now that Joe Burrow is incapacitated, unable
to do anything physically to help the football team win games,
and the team's gonna look at Jake Browning. They're gonna
look at Jake Browning for leadership, They're gonna look to
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him for solid play, They're going to look to him
to throw the ball better than he did today. I'm
sure he's the first talk to him a little bit
as well. He talked about how he felt like he
threw the ball terrible. M not going to say what
he said, but it was bad. So bottom line is,
what do you do well? Do you fold your tent?
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Do you you know, pack your bags up and go
home and inside you're going to quit playing football and
national football? He go, no, come back and you fight
your ass off, and I think that's what Jake brown
is going to do. I think that's in his DNA,
that's his personality, and he's going to have to do
it quickly. Got to get the worm turned. You got
to turn the season around. These three losses in a
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row are all bad, one after another, one worse than
the other. So we're gonna have to change that direction quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
If the Bengals had not scored touchdowns in the fourth quarter,
we know it, next week would have looked like everybody
would have been saying, Jake's gotta go go out and
trade for a quarterback or start one of the guys
that you have. Some people still say that I get it.
He really played poorly for the first three quarters, but
at least in the fourth you saw reason for hope
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that he can be the guy that he was in
twenty twenty three when he played well in the last
seven games.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Agreed, Dan, you know, and two guys that saw it,
lived it were right there with him while he did it,
or Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher, and they have confidence
in Jake Browning still, and those are the two guys
that have to have confidence in Jake Browning. Those are
the two guys that Jake Browning looks to for leadership
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for him and to exhibit confidence in him so he
feels like, you know, he can go out there and
perform it at his highest level. He wants to make
those guys proud of him. There's no question. He wants
to have those guys trust him that he won't turn
the football over and that he'll he'll make plays with
the football and ultimately win football games for this for
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this organization. The organization believes in him, The franchise believes
in him. I know that Mike Brown and the Brown
family and the Blackburn family all believe in Jake Browning
as a backup quarterback one of the best in the
National Football League Now is everybody's saying he's one of
the top thirty two, or he'd be a starting quarterback somewhere.
You know, they would have traded him or whatever and
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he'd be a starting quarterback somewhere. But honestly, you know,
I think they're happy and thankful that they didn't if
there was any trade to be talked about, that they
didn't consimate any trade because you know, Joe unfortunately went
down and Joe Burrow. Shoot, he's best quarterback in the
National Football League in my opinion, and until until somebody
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else proves me wrong, and in my opinion, is going
to take a lot, going to take multiple Super Bowl wins.
You know, I just think that you give Joe Burrow
talent and opportunity to perform and show what he's got
in terms of ability to throw the football, throw it
accurately with velocity, He'll win games. Jake Browning will too.
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Jake Browning has been in the classroom with Joe Burrow
for a long time and with Dan Pitcher for a
long time. That relationship is ironclad and it's.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
How well did the defense play? The Lions scored thirty
seven points too, came out of safety, two touchdowns on
really short fields after interceptions. Did the defense play reason
to play well against that offense?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I think so, Dan, I think honestly, you know, if
the offense had not had an off day in terms
of turnovers and safeties, and I think they could have
won the football game, or you know, been damn close,
would have been down to the wire, you know, like
a two minute drill to decide the football game. The
outcome of the game. And that's encouraging because Detroit's a
hell of a football team. Dan camb was a hell
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of a coach. You know, they've got a great organization.
They've staffed and stacked that organization with tons of good
players everywhere. I mean, they don't have like, oh my god,
that guy doesn't belong in the NFL anywhere. You know,
they've they've got people that certainly do belong and perform
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at a higher level than just belonging. They're good, solid,
fundamentally sound, good foundation to work from football players.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
The pass protection today was leaky at times. They obviously
gave up the safety, but I didn't feel like Brownie
was under constant duress in this game. Was it an improvement?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I thought there were times. There are always going to
be times. Having played that position, I know what it's like.
I mean, these guys are damn good that you're working against,
and they can any particular pass rush. They can break
you down at some point in time and finish a
play that you couldn't finish. But overall, I thought the
pass protection was solid and sound. I think Scott Peters
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is He's not going to be thrilled with it. But
I think he's going to be like the worm's turning
in the right direction. We're improving. We were much better
this week in pass protection than we were the last couple.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You talked to Trey Hendrickson after the game. What kind
of vibe did you get from Trey?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Just a state of I don't know, bewilderments, too strong,
confusion maybe. I mean, he just can't understand how and
why this is happening, you know, too sad game. I
congratulated him on his game, and he was, you know,
very grateful for you know, the congratulations, and I mean
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that guy busts his ass now. He works his tail off,
he really does, and the game is so important to him.
Teammates are so important to him.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He's a man of faith and football and in the
Good Lord or what his life is all about. And
his family. He's got a beautiful wife and child now,
so you know, he talked about that part of it
as well, and kind of like all encompassing, you know, family, faith, teammates, football,
There's a lot going on in his life and he's
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handling it and handling it well. The guy's a star,
you know, he's He's a great player, one of the
it's not the best, one of the best pass rushers
in the National Football League. And he plays the run
pretty damn solidly too. Now he's sound. This guy can
play ball.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Jake Browning took over for Joe Burrow in a particularly
tough stretch of the schedule at Minnesota at Denver on
Monday night home against Detroit, coming off of fifteen and
two season now off to Green Bay, followed by Thursday
night football against Pittsburgh. He did catch a tough draw.
I don't think there's any doubt about.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It, Bingo, no doubt about it. Dan once again, I mean,
you're you're in a stute football guy. I mean, that's
murderer's role. You know, it's like, oh my gosh, man,
it's one after another. You know, you think, okay, well, man,
now's a challenge. All those guys were good. You're in
the locker room showered after the game, and you're reflecting
back on it and thinking about the game and the
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ebb and flow of the game, and it's like, oh
my gosh, there was you know, more ebb than flow.
And I'd like to get that turned around. But he's uh,
he is in a tough stretch. But that's what you
sign up for. I mean, when you decide you're going
to play in the National Football League, you're the best
of the best. I mean, he was an outstanding high school,
college and now professional football quarterback. So that's what he's
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paid to do. That's that's why he makes the bucks,
the big bucks. And he understands that, and he knows.
He knows he's gonna get ridiculed. He knows he's gonna
get ripped. He knows that. You know, John Q Public's
gonna be like cat calling him as he's walking down
the street and have to keep his poise because he
can't get fiery. You don't want to have any trouble
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in that regard, that's for sure. I do think I
think he's gonna I think he's gonna rebound. I think
he's there's a stretch of football, there's gonna be a
very high caliber, high level of football that Jake Ronning
is gonna play and and everybody's gonna benefit from it,
including the fans.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Up next a road trip to Green Bay for the
first time in eight years. That game kicks off at
four to five. Now time for this week's Fun Fact segment,
as we get to know a fourth round pick in
this year's draft out of Clemson. Tip for some fun
facts with rookie linebacker Barrett Carter. Born in Chicago but
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raised in Sawanee, Georgia, near Atlanta. Barrett a reddit an
interview where you said, all I want to do in
life is make my parents proud. Tell us a little
bit about them, what they did or do for a living,
and what you admire and respect so much about your folks.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, So my mom, she's an interior designer. Slash do
it all mom, slash everything Mom, she really does it all.
But she's an interior designer, helps, you know, design people's houses,
and you know, people will just hire her and you know,
give her money and tell her, you know, just make
my house beautiful. And that's what she does. Then my dad,
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he's a financial advisor, a wealth manager. So he's really
my personal financial advisor. So it's good to keep that
in house. But what I really love and admire most
about them is just how supportive they are. Like with
my sister and I, they really just let us figure
our own lives out, Like they didn't force us to
do anything. They just said, if y'all wanna go run
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through a brick wall, then we're gonna support you like wholeheartedly,
with no no doubts, and just they just let us
figure out our own lives out. That's just what I
love and admire so much about them, and I hope
that I can be half as good as parents as
they were to my sister and I. So they're the
best older or younger sister older, she's six years older.
How old am I twin two? Yeah, she's six years
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I have to do that math every time, but yeah,
she's six years older.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I do the same with my older sisters. Growing up
in Swanee, were you a big fan of the Atlanta
teams and did you go to games?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Honestly, no, I I kinda. I kinda was like a
Bears and a Cubs fan and a Bulls fan. Then
we moved to Georgia, and I I I just had
nothing but Georgia fans and Falcons fans and braves and everything.
I just had nothing, uh like butt that around me.
So I guess as I kept growing up, I just
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I naturally gravitated to be a fan. But you know,
I it was a kind of a tough transition, like not,
I guess forgetting about my Chicago teams and trying to
adapt to what I was, you know, around, But I
did grow up going to some Falcons games and Braves
games and Hawgs games as well, so uh yeah, yeah
I did.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It can be fun to root for a different team
from everybody else around you. You know, you have your
own thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, you know. I that's like me, Like I'm a
big Lebron fan, Like wherever Lebron goes, I'm I'm a
fan of that team. So I mean, uh yeah, I
definitely just I try to choose my own path whoever
who I'm going to support, but I did gravitate towards
those hometown teams.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
We're visiting with Barret Carter. When did it become clear
that you stood out among your peers in sports?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Hm, I would say my eighth grade year in football,
Like I played football just always because it was so fun,
and I was also like the biggest one on the field,
So I was just I guess I was naturally I
don't want to say the best, but I was pretty good.
But then my eighth grade year, I was just I
was pretty dominant and that after that year, it just
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really showed me that I can maybe do something with this.
And fast forward to my freshman year, I got my
first scholarship offer, and I was like, wow, like this
is really like what I've been working towards every single day,
and now I was like really becoming a reality. And
that really just made me work even harder just to
not just or to just keep stacking offers and just
keep any more attention from colleges. So I would say,
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in my eighth grade and then going to my freshman year.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I know, you played offense early in high school and
then got switched to linebacker, and reportedly you were devastated
by the change. Have you grown to love linebacker?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I have, and it was I literally wanted to quit football.
But the next day when I got I switched, I
was running back receiver. I switched the linebacker, and I
was almost quit football. Then the next day I got
my first scholarship offer. So I mean, the Lord works
in mysterious ways. But I've grown to love this side
of the ball so much, and I love how how
hard it is. Like you know, I'm not saying playing
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offense is easy, but you know, when you're playing defense,
you have to react to whatever the offense is doing,
and you don't know what they're running, and all you
can do is go off of your preparation, your studying
and your film and just you know, just your God
given ability. But I love that defense, that challenge and
how precise you have to be and how on point
you have to be with your keys. And I embraced
that challenge. So I wouldn't I wouldn't change my path
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and I wouldn't want to have it any other way.
So I love the side of the ball playing linebacker.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You attended North Quinnet High School, that's the alma mater
of a Bengals fan favorite tight end cj Uzama. Did
you hear about CJ? From coaches and teachers and have
you ever met I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We've met before because he came and spoke to us,
but like surprisingly, we actually lived in the same neighborhood.
We lived in the same neighborhood back in Georgia, but
just growing up in Swane, you always heard that name,
and you know, you always wanted to strive to be
like those older guys who paved the way. And I
just have so much respect for him, just what he
did in the league and how he always came back
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to his community and just gave his time, his knowledge,
and his wisdom back. And you know, I hope that
I can be something like that and more, just keep
giving back what was instilled into me. So CJ will
always be a legend in my eyes, a big brother
and you know, a great a great man to look
up to.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You were one of the top linebackers in the country
your senior year of high school. You could have gone anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Where did you visit? Who I visited? Clemson obviously, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn,
and Ohio State. So those were like my final final five,
and I ultimately chose Clemson just because it was the
right fit for me. You know, I was looking for
a place where I can you know, grow in all
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areas of life and you know, not just talking about football,
but all areas. And you know, I can truly say
I walked into Clemson aboard and I came out of
man and that's all that I was looking for. And
you know, the football stuff was going to handle itself.
But so what I did, what I was able to
accommis there was is a blessing and I wouldn't trade
those four yous for the words, but yeah, those are
those are my finalists and the place that I was
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visiting it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Certainly worked out well. You run some great teams at Clemson,
your team made it to the College Football Playoff last year.
What was the best part of your overall college experience.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'll say I'll give one on the field and one
off the field. I'll say this is going to be surprising.
My junior year, at worst, we were four and four,
Like at one point, we were four and four throughout
the year. And if you know anything about Clemson, anything
about their fans, they're very passionate about that team, and
being four and four in Clemson is not not a
sweet place to be. And so I would say finishing
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off that year and winning the Gator Bowl in the
way that we won it, like it was just special
And I cried after that game. I cried after we
won the Gator Bowl, and it was just such a
special win for you know, we were four and four
and we rallied and we finished off the season nine
and four, and it was just carry so much momentum
to the next year. So that's on the field and
then off the field, I'll say graduating, just because after
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my junior year, I was unsure if I was going
to leave go or come back. And it was a
really tough decision weighing on my heart, and I decided
to come back and I finished, and I set out
that was my goal to graduate, be All American, be
a team captain. And that's what I did. And so
I came back and I graduated, and that was such
a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Since twenty twenty, college football players have been allowed to
wear the number zero. You were the first player to
do it at Clemson.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was that a big deal to you? Honestly, I didn't
realize it was a big deal until, like I got
to Clemson, because I committed to Clemson and I texted
coach Shwiny, like what single digit numbers y'all have available?
Because I were number one in high school, so it
was just what I was used to and now he
said zero's only thing. I was like, all right, let's
do it. And then I get to Clemson and like
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they had there, like you said, there was no zeros before,
and then I was the first one, and all like
that's like all forever being history just because I'm the
first number zero. So it was special, and I hope
that you know that's just a legacy at Clemson, just
for decent players to wear that number and just keep
carrying on that tradition. So I hope that you know
that's that's that's gonna become a thing at Clemson.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
We're chatting with Barrett Carter. You were a fourth round
picking this year's draft. Describe the moments leading up to
the pick and then the feeling you got when the
phone rang.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
The most stressful, nerve wracking time of my whole life,
because the whole process is so like you don't know anything.
Like you can you can get all these predictions. You
can talk to your agents and acts like what are
they saying whatever, But until you get the phone call,
you don't know what's going on in that draft room.
So I mean, i'd be lying to you if I
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told you all if I thought I was gonna go
fourth out. I thought I was gonna go earlier. But
you know, the Lord makes no mistakes. And you know,
when I got that phone call, it was the best
feeling in the world. Just all the weight on my
shoulders were just completely lifted, and I was like I
was immediately, just like, let's get to work. Like I
cried so much Friday night because I didn't get my
name called and I was pissed off, and I was
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just so much, so many different emotions. But when I
saw I think it was a five one three area code,
that's yeah. So I saw the five one three and
I saw Cincinnati, I was like, let's do it, Like,
let's get to work. And I was just ready from
that moment on and I'm just ready to just leave
my leave my market in Cincinnati. All right, a few.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Wild card topics to wrap things up. It looks like
you did a ton of community service when you were
at Clemson, particularly with schools.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Why I remember, I was, you know, that little kid
and seeing the older athletes come in and read to
us and spend time with us, and I just thought
that was the coolest thing, because I was, I was,
I just admired that. I admire that, you know, they
took the time out of their day when they could
have been doing anything else and they came to spend
time with us. And I made a promise to myself,
like when I get to that, when I get to
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that age, I'm gonna give back and I'm gonna I'm
gonna be that figure that those kids look up to
and those kids love, and you know, whatever it may be,
but it's just a it's a promise that I made
to myself. Just I'm gonna get back my time. I'm
gonna get back to nowedge was instilled into me, and
now I'm gonna I'm gonna do that for us to
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
If you could swap jerseys with any player in NFL history,
who are you swapping jerseys with?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Probably ray Lewis. Just he's someone that I grew up
just admiring and watching, especially when I switched the linebacker,
Like a big thing for me was the mindset and
like the mentality that you have to have to play
that position. He's just epitome of that. Like he's he
doesn't matter who you are, He's gonna go after you
and try to try to hunt you. So I would
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say ray Lewis, And I actually talked to him last
last year in the summer. Coach Sweeney put me on
the phone with him, and it was I was just
so starstruck. I didn't know what to say. But he's
someone that I grew up washing and grew up admiring,
so I would say Ray Lewis all right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Final fun fact for Barret Carter. This one's kind of deep.
If you could meet anyone in history, living or deceased,
who would that person be?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I would say, I have two, So I have to
give an athlete in a non athlete, I'll say Lebron
James because that's just that's my that's my guy. I
grew up watched, Yeah, Lebron for sure. Lebron James and
Denzel Washington. He's my favorite actor. I just watched both
or all three Equalizer movies and that just made me
love him even more so. Lebron James and Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Denzel is so good, so good, so.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Good, the best, not that Lebron isn't. But I'm really
with you, Denzel. You can't go on with either, so
I'll say those two.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This has been great. Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Best of luck the rest of the year. Yeah, sorry,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
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let's get to the radio replays. The first half was
a rough one for Jake Browning as he threw a
pair of interceptions that gave the Lions the ball in
Bengals territory. Browning looking to throw his pass, who picked
off intercepted by a make Robertson defending Jamar Chase and
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Detroit will take over at the seventeen of Cincinnati. Despite
the picks, the defense kept the Bengals alive. Trey Hendrickson
had a stripsack and the Lions punted three times before halftime,
allowing Cincinnati to hang in there before scoring. On the
final play of the half. Rookie long snapper William Wagner
will fire it back, trying to put Cincinnati on the board.
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On the final play of the second quarter, Moneymack is ready,
so is Rico. Rico extending the hand, catches a high snap.
Here comes the kick from Evan McPherson, and he slams
it through the uprights from fifty yards away with ease.
Moneymack a perfect five for five on his field goal
tries this season, and the Bengals trail at the half
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fourteen to three. Cincinnati got the ball to begin the
third quarter, but instead of scoring again to build momentum,
Browning through another backbreaking I int. Browning drops back to
throw steps into a throw up the scene intercept it
third pick of the day, Anzelonei running it back, stiff
arms Jamar Chase Jamar gets him out of bounds inside
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the thirty yard line. That interception led to a touchdown,
and by the end of the third quarter, the Lions
scored another to lead twenty eight to three. Browning now
has eight interceptions in four games this year.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I think most of mine are trying to force plays,
you know, frustration. I wanted to push the ball on
the field, and you know, I got to pick my
spots better through three picks that were just bad. And
there's no hiding from that. It was bad football for me,
trying to force things that aren't there and as a result,
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just completely screwing over you know, the team, and it hurts,
like there's no way to hide from it. It hurts,
and you know, I did not play well enough to
give our chance a team to win, and it's just brutal.
I need to play better and there's literally no hiding
from that. And I don't care if every person on
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the team says they need to play better, Like it
starts with me playing better at the quarterback position and
not putting our team in difficult situations. And there's no
hiding from that. So like I let the whole team down,
and I feel like I let the fans down, and
you know, like I said, there's no hiding from that.
Like I did not play well enough to win the
game today, and I need to find ways to improve
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and I will. You know, I'm never going to fold
or anything like that. Like I'm going to spend a
a lot of time here in the facility this week
trying to find ways to get better and put us
in a situation where we can win some games.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, it hurts, and it should.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And you know, I feel a great responsibility to get
back on track. And I think for me, anytime I'm
going through something difficult, it's just, you know, double down
on work ethic and you know, see it all the
way through. And whether it gets better or not, you
know who that's to be determined and that's the unknown.
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But I will not be because of lack of effort
and lack of dedication to trying to get better and
put our team in better situations to win.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Find we on the fourth quarter, we saw the Jake
Browning who played so well in twenty twenty three and
who rallied the Bengals to victory in Week two versus Jacksonville,
as Cincinnati scored on three straight drives of sixty three
or more yards, crowding catches, the shotgun snap looking lap
Chase was covered. Now he's scrammed trying to avoid a sack.
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Browning cocks the arm, throws into the end zone. Chase
catches it. Did he get both feet down?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
He did? Touchdown Bengals Jamar Chase with Barishna coough like footwork.
If he was able to get his toes down in
the end zone.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Right, I'm sure they're gonna probably take another look at it.
But tap tap, All you have to do is get
that one toe in bounds. That's a touchdown in anybody
who's league.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Third down and fourteen, the Bengals have the ball at
their own thirty six shotgun snap, four man rush. Browning
steps into a deep ball got from our.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Chases, open over the shoulder catch at the twenty, and
he will walk into the end zone for a sixty
four yard Bengals touchdown.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Big time right there, Big time play by a big
time wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Browning back at the seven, waiting for the snap from
Karis p Ryan is in the back. Chase motions out
live with the right. Browning looking left, throws into the
end to one a low throw. T Higgins goes down
and grabs it. Touchdown.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Bengals Jake Browning with his third touchdown.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Pass up the fourth quarter. Here's Zach Taylor on the
way Jake Browning and the team finished.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I'm glad he hung in there, made some plays, forced
down the stretch. Three straight touchdown drives at the end
of the game. I'm sure a lot of people wanted
him on the bench at that point. I could hear it.
And you stuck with him, and he comes back and
has three straight drives for touchdowns. And that's that's the
Jake Browning. I know he's resilient. He'll sara versity in
the face. You can count on them and keep bouncing back. Obviously,
there's we got to protect the ball better to be
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able to beat a team of that caliber. So we're
not going to run from that. But to sit here
and say I'm not proud of our football team for
the way that they fought back, that that wouldn't be true.
I'm extremely proud of these guys, the way that they
continue to fight and in the face of adversity when
it looks like it's real dim and all of a sudden,
there's some hope there that we can get this thing done.
And that's what this team's made of the five games
in that's what I'm counting on to get us through
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this the last twelve games where we can go win
some games. I'm not oblivious to what goes on in
the AFC and their division. There's going to be plenty
of opportunity there if we can just get through this
storm and stick together and find a way to put
some better positions on offense together and score some points.
And I'm absolutely confident that we will get this thing
turned around and fans will want to be in the
stands because I get it right now, they're going to
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want to be in the stands. And I look forward
to sold out crowds again, back to what we're used to,
and I promise you it's with every breath I got,
we're going to continue to work to get back to that.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The final score was Detroit thirty seven Cincinnati twenty four.
Browning through for two hundred and fifty one yards with
three touchdowns and three picks. Jamar Chase was his leading
receiver with six catches for one hundred and ten yards
and two touchdowns. Here's what Jamar had to say after
the game.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
We got to take advantage of every job, even the
first couple of drives. You know, we just made a
late at the end. You know it's too late.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It just remind you of what you guys are capable
of doing on offense after a couple of games. Uh,
we know who we care.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
But at the end of the day, we just gotta
we gotta get there. That's what it's all about. Getting there.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Two touchdown catches for you in the fourth quarter, one
for Tege. Does it begin with trying to get you
two guys the ball as much as possible?
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I think we been doing that, you know. I think
it's just a tough task when everybody know what the
hell we doing.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So you okay, maybe we gotta work harder get it,
get the ball to us. We gotta work harder as
a unit. Uh, and make make it look easier for Jake.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is it again, it's a last time you didn't celebrate
a Ted Chicago game? Mm v mm my rookie year.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
What what's a light scoring touchdown on the most touchdown game?
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Just not feeling that he just saw. I wanted to
jump in the stands, but uh, we're losing. There's no
fun in me jumping in in the stands and doing
all the extra who red who row stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
When we losing?
Speaker 7 (09:55):
Uh, especially as a cat, you know, the guys look
at me to hold my composure and be a leader,
and and at that moment, you know, the best thing
to do is just that bareverybody, I'm telling them, good
job and work on the next possession.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Is a ball still fun for you right now? Or
is it just mostly frustrating?
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Football is always fun, It's just not as fun when
you're losing. You facing adversity. We gotta keep we gotta
keep knocking the treat on til they fall. So just
gotta keep playing.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Is it hard to tamp your frustration down for the
first three quarters?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Still something good happens?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean, it's just nothing's happening.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
I play a lot of fire underneath me, man, and
I'll play with a lot of with a lot of emotion.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I let his game. I've always did let his game.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
But you know, you you you're gonna get frustrated in
this game.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know you can.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You not gonna sit here and tell me you gonna
make a mistake and be happy about it. That's that's
that's not That's not how life works. At the end
of the day. If you make any mistake in life.
You're gonna be mad at it and try to do
it again later, but fix it. All I can do
is is just like I said, be positive, be a
cabinet to my guys, and just keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
It feels strange to say it after the other team
scored thirty seven points, but the Bengals defense gave them
a chance by getting a takeaway and forcing the league's
best offense to punt five times. Detroit had seven possessions
with two or fewer first downs.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Our defense has given us what we needed these first
half of these games. It's hard to stay that out
of four quarters when there's turnovers and there's punts and
there's no points going on the board, especially against teams
like that in Denver, who can do a little bit
of everything and keep you on balance and call all
their fun things when they're play caller. Season's twenty one
to three. What's the worst thing that can happen if
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I call this play and it doesn't work. We're still
up twenty one to three. So we put them in
an incredibly difficult bind. And all they have done is
bow up and try to do everything they can to
keep our team in the game, and I got to
do a better job is to play caller to bail
them out.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Trey Hendrickson had two of the Bengals four sacks, giving
him four and five games, but that didn't give him
much satisfaction after the loss.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
Goals are to win the games, right, and there's a
lot to correct on film, and you know, we have
a resilient group. We're still finding that team identity. There's
a lot to be proud of on defense, and there's
a lot we need to correct on defense. So you know,
keep chopping wood, it'll break. You know, it's a National
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Football League. Hard work works. I'm a firm believer in that,
and you know I've done a good job of taking
care of my business. But that's not necessarily what it takes.
You know, we missed the playoffs over the last two years.
You know that's that's not where we want to be.
So I want to win as a captain and lead
these guys where we're supposed to go. So we got
a lot to fix. Like you said, there's some things
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that are good on tape. You know, pat yourself on
the back for a second, and then let's look at
the place that we need to fix because you got
to forget the good things quick, you got to forget
the bad things faster.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So here's how things look in the AFC nor the
Steelers had to buy and sit on top of the
division at three and one. The Bengals are still alone
in second at two and three. Without Lamar Jackson, the
Ravens lost at home to Houston forty.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Four to ten.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
As backup quarterback Cooper Rush through three interceptions. Baltimore is
one in four and faces the Rams next week. The
Browns are also one in four after losing to the
Vikings in London twenty one to seventeen. Cleveland has not
topped seventeen points in ten straight games going back to
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Now time for their radio guys recap Lap. The Bengals
came to life in the fourth quarter Jake Browning threw
three touchdown passes, two to Chase one to Higgins, but
in his news conference after the game, he was really
down on himself for the way he performed in the
first three quarters, basically saying he felt like his interceptions
cost the Bengals the game.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I can understand why he'd say that. You know, he's
the quarterback, he's the leader, the young questioned leader of
the football team. Now that Joe Burrow is incapacitated, unable
to do anything physically to help the football team win games,
and the team's gonna look at Jake Browning. They're gonna
look at Jake Browning for leadership, They're gonna look to
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him for solid play, They're going to look to him
to throw the ball better than he did today. I'm
sure he's the first talk to him a little bit
as well. He talked about how he felt like he
threw the ball terrible. M not going to say what
he said, but it was bad. So bottom line is,
what do you do well? Do you fold your tent?
(14:47):
Do you you know, pack your bags up and go
home and inside you're going to quit playing football and
national football? He go, no, come back and you fight
your ass off, and I think that's what Jake brown
is going to do. I think that's in his DNA,
that's his personality, and he's going to have to do
it quickly. Got to get the worm turned. You got
to turn the season around. These three losses in a
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row are all bad, one after another, one worse than
the other. So we're gonna have to change that direction quickly.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
If the Bengals had not scored touchdowns in the fourth quarter,
we know it, next week would have looked like everybody
would have been saying, Jake's gotta go go out and
trade for a quarterback or start one of the guys
that you have. Some people still say that I get it.
He really played poorly for the first three quarters, but
at least in the fourth you saw reason for hope
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that he can be the guy that he was in
twenty twenty three when he played well in the last
seven games.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Agreed, Dan, you know, and two guys that saw it,
lived it were right there with him while he did it,
or Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher, and they have confidence
in Jake Browning still, and those are the two guys
that have to have confidence in Jake Browning. Those are
the two guys that Jake Browning looks to for leadership
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for him and to exhibit confidence in him so he
feels like, you know, he can go out there and
perform it at his highest level. He wants to make
those guys proud of him. There's no question. He wants
to have those guys trust him that he won't turn
the football over and that he'll he'll make plays with
the football and ultimately win football games for this for
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this organization. The organization believes in him, The franchise believes
in him. I know that Mike Brown and the Brown
family and the Blackburn family all believe in Jake Browning
as a backup quarterback one of the best in the
National Football League Now is everybody's saying he's one of
the top thirty two, or he'd be a starting quarterback somewhere.
You know, they would have traded him or whatever and
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he'd be a starting quarterback somewhere. But honestly, you know,
I think they're happy and thankful that they didn't if
there was any trade to be talked about, that they
didn't consimate any trade because you know, Joe unfortunately went
down and Joe Burrow. Shoot, he's best quarterback in the
National Football League in my opinion, and until until somebody
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else proves me wrong, and in my opinion, is going
to take a lot, going to take multiple Super Bowl wins.
You know, I just think that you give Joe Burrow
talent and opportunity to perform and show what he's got
in terms of ability to throw the football, throw it
accurately with velocity, He'll win games. Jake Browning will too.
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Jake Browning has been in the classroom with Joe Burrow
for a long time and with Dan Pitcher for a
long time. That relationship is ironclad and it's.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
How well did the defense play? The Lions scored thirty
seven points too, came out of safety, two touchdowns on
really short fields after interceptions. Did the defense play reason
to play well against that offense?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I think so, Dan, I think honestly, you know, if
the offense had not had an off day in terms
of turnovers and safeties, and I think they could have
won the football game, or you know, been damn close,
would have been down to the wire, you know, like
a two minute drill to decide the football game. The
outcome of the game. And that's encouraging because Detroit's a
hell of a football team. Dan camb was a hell
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of a coach. You know, they've got a great organization.
They've staffed and stacked that organization with tons of good
players everywhere. I mean, they don't have like, oh my god,
that guy doesn't belong in the NFL anywhere. You know,
they've they've got people that certainly do belong and perform
(18:44):
at a higher level than just belonging. They're good, solid,
fundamentally sound, good foundation to work from football players.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
The pass protection today was leaky at times. They obviously
gave up the safety, but I didn't feel like Brownie
was under constant duress in this game. Was it an improvement?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I thought there were times. There are always going to
be times. Having played that position, I know what it's like.
I mean, these guys are damn good that you're working against,
and they can any particular pass rush. They can break
you down at some point in time and finish a
play that you couldn't finish. But overall, I thought the
pass protection was solid and sound. I think Scott Peters
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is He's not going to be thrilled with it. But
I think he's going to be like the worm's turning
in the right direction. We're improving. We were much better
this week in pass protection than we were the last couple.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You talked to Trey Hendrickson after the game. What kind
of vibe did you get from Trey?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Just a state of I don't know, bewilderments, too strong,
confusion maybe. I mean, he just can't understand how and
why this is happening, you know, too sad game. I
congratulated him on his game, and he was, you know,
very grateful for you know, the congratulations, and I mean
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that guy busts his ass now. He works his tail off,
he really does, and the game is so important to him.
Teammates are so important to him.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He's a man of faith and football and in the
Good Lord or what his life is all about. And
his family. He's got a beautiful wife and child now,
so you know, he talked about that part of it
as well, and kind of like all encompassing, you know, family, faith, teammates, football,
There's a lot going on in his life and he's
(20:40):
handling it and handling it well. The guy's a star,
you know, he's He's a great player, one of the
it's not the best, one of the best pass rushers
in the National Football League. And he plays the run
pretty damn solidly too. Now he's sound. This guy can
play ball.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Jake Browning took over for Joe Burrow in a particularly
tough stretch of the schedule at Minnesota at Denver on
Monday night home against Detroit, coming off of fifteen and
two season now off to Green Bay, followed by Thursday
night football against Pittsburgh. He did catch a tough draw.
I don't think there's any doubt about.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
It, Bingo, no doubt about it. Dan once again, I mean,
you're you're in a stute football guy. I mean, that's
murderer's role. You know, it's like, oh my gosh, man,
it's one after another. You know, you think, okay, well, man,
now's a challenge. All those guys were good. You're in
the locker room showered after the game, and you're reflecting
back on it and thinking about the game and the
(21:36):
ebb and flow of the game, and it's like, oh
my gosh, there was you know, more ebb than flow.
And I'd like to get that turned around. But he's uh,
he is in a tough stretch. But that's what you
sign up for. I mean, when you decide you're going
to play in the National Football League, you're the best
of the best. I mean, he was an outstanding high school,
college and now professional football quarterback. So that's what he's
(22:00):
paid to do. That's that's why he makes the bucks,
the big bucks. And he understands that, and he knows.
He knows he's gonna get ridiculed. He knows he's gonna
get ripped. He knows that. You know, John Q Public's
gonna be like cat calling him as he's walking down
the street and have to keep his poise because he
can't get fiery. You don't want to have any trouble
(22:22):
in that regard, that's for sure. I do think I
think he's gonna I think he's gonna rebound. I think
he's there's a stretch of football, there's gonna be a
very high caliber, high level of football that Jake Ronning
is gonna play and and everybody's gonna benefit from it,
including the fans.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Up next a road trip to Green Bay for the
first time in eight years. That game kicks off at
four to five. Now time for this week's Fun Fact segment,
as we get to know a fourth round pick in
this year's draft out of Clemson. Tip for some fun
facts with rookie linebacker Barrett Carter. Born in Chicago but
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raised in Sawanee, Georgia, near Atlanta. Barrett a reddit an
interview where you said, all I want to do in
life is make my parents proud. Tell us a little
bit about them, what they did or do for a living,
and what you admire and respect so much about your folks.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, So my mom, she's an interior designer. Slash do
it all mom, slash everything Mom, she really does it all.
But she's an interior designer, helps, you know, design people's houses,
and you know, people will just hire her and you know,
give her money and tell her, you know, just make
my house beautiful. And that's what she does. Then my dad,
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he's a financial advisor, a wealth manager. So he's really
my personal financial advisor. So it's good to keep that
in house. But what I really love and admire most
about them is just how supportive they are. Like with
my sister and I, they really just let us figure
our own lives out, Like they didn't force us to
do anything. They just said, if y'all wanna go run
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through a brick wall, then we're gonna support you like wholeheartedly,
with no no doubts, and just they just let us
figure out our own lives out. That's just what I
love and admire so much about them, and I hope
that I can be half as good as parents as
they were to my sister and I. So they're the
best older or younger sister older, she's six years older.
How old am I twin two? Yeah, she's six years
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I have to do that math every time, but yeah,
she's six years older.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I do the same with my older sisters. Growing up
in Swanee, were you a big fan of the Atlanta
teams and did you go to games?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Honestly, no, I I kinda. I kinda was like a
Bears and a Cubs fan and a Bulls fan. Then
we moved to Georgia, and I I I just had
nothing but Georgia fans and Falcons fans and braves and everything.
I just had nothing, uh like butt that around me.
So I guess as I kept growing up, I just
(24:57):
I naturally gravitated to be a fan. But you know,
I it was a kind of a tough transition, like not,
I guess forgetting about my Chicago teams and trying to
adapt to what I was, you know, around, But I
did grow up going to some Falcons games and Braves
games and Hawgs games as well, so uh yeah, yeah
I did.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
It can be fun to root for a different team
from everybody else around you. You know, you have your
own thing.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, you know. I that's like me, Like I'm a
big Lebron fan, Like wherever Lebron goes, I'm I'm a
fan of that team. So I mean, uh yeah, I
definitely just I try to choose my own path whoever
who I'm going to support, but I did gravitate towards
those hometown teams.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
We're visiting with Barret Carter. When did it become clear
that you stood out among your peers in sports?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Hm, I would say my eighth grade year in football,
Like I played football just always because it was so fun,
and I was also like the biggest one on the field,
So I was just I guess I was naturally I
don't want to say the best, but I was pretty good.
But then my eighth grade year, I was just I
was pretty dominant and that after that year, it just
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really showed me that I can maybe do something with this.
And fast forward to my freshman year, I got my
first scholarship offer, and I was like, wow, like this
is really like what I've been working towards every single day,
and now I was like really becoming a reality. And
that really just made me work even harder just to
not just or to just keep stacking offers and just
keep any more attention from colleges. So I would say,
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in my eighth grade and then going to my freshman year.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I know, you played offense early in high school and
then got switched to linebacker, and reportedly you were devastated
by the change. Have you grown to love linebacker?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I have, and it was I literally wanted to quit football.
But the next day when I got I switched, I
was running back receiver. I switched the linebacker, and I
was almost quit football. Then the next day I got
my first scholarship offer. So I mean, the Lord works
in mysterious ways. But I've grown to love this side
of the ball so much, and I love how how
hard it is. Like you know, I'm not saying playing
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offense is easy, but you know, when you're playing defense,
you have to react to whatever the offense is doing,
and you don't know what they're running, and all you
can do is go off of your preparation, your studying
and your film and just you know, just your God
given ability. But I love that defense, that challenge and
how precise you have to be and how on point
you have to be with your keys. And I embraced
that challenge. So I wouldn't I wouldn't change my path
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and I wouldn't want to have it any other way.
So I love the side of the ball playing linebacker.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You attended North Quinnet High School, that's the alma mater
of a Bengals fan favorite tight end cj Uzama. Did
you hear about CJ? From coaches and teachers and have
you ever met I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We've met before because he came and spoke to us,
but like surprisingly, we actually lived in the same neighborhood.
We lived in the same neighborhood back in Georgia, but
just growing up in Swane, you always heard that name,
and you know, you always wanted to strive to be
like those older guys who paved the way. And I
just have so much respect for him, just what he
did in the league and how he always came back
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to his community and just gave his time, his knowledge,
and his wisdom back. And you know, I hope that
I can be something like that and more, just keep
giving back what was instilled into me. So CJ will
always be a legend in my eyes, a big brother
and you know, a great a great man to look
up to.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You were one of the top linebackers in the country
your senior year of high school. You could have gone anywhere.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Where did you visit? Who I visited? Clemson obviously, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn,
and Ohio State. So those were like my final final five,
and I ultimately chose Clemson just because it was the
right fit for me. You know, I was looking for
a place where I can you know, grow in all
(28:42):
areas of life and you know, not just talking about football,
but all areas. And you know, I can truly say
I walked into Clemson aboard and I came out of
man and that's all that I was looking for. And
you know, the football stuff was going to handle itself.
But so what I did, what I was able to
accommis there was is a blessing and I wouldn't trade
those four yous for the words, but yeah, those are
those are my finalists and the place that I was
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visiting it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Certainly worked out well. You run some great teams at Clemson,
your team made it to the College Football Playoff last year.
What was the best part of your overall college experience.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'll say I'll give one on the field and one
off the field. I'll say this is going to be surprising.
My junior year, at worst, we were four and four,
Like at one point, we were four and four throughout
the year. And if you know anything about Clemson, anything
about their fans, they're very passionate about that team, and
being four and four in Clemson is not not a
sweet place to be. And so I would say finishing
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off that year and winning the Gator Bowl in the
way that we won it, like it was just special
And I cried after that game. I cried after we
won the Gator Bowl, and it was just such a
special win for you know, we were four and four
and we rallied and we finished off the season nine
and four, and it was just carry so much momentum
to the next year. So that's on the field and
then off the field, I'll say graduating, just because after
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my junior year, I was unsure if I was going
to leave go or come back. And it was a
really tough decision weighing on my heart, and I decided
to come back and I finished, and I set out
that was my goal to graduate, be All American, be
a team captain. And that's what I did. And so
I came back and I graduated, and that was such
a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Since twenty twenty, college football players have been allowed to
wear the number zero. You were the first player to
do it at Clemson.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was that a big deal to you? Honestly, I didn't
realize it was a big deal until, like I got
to Clemson, because I committed to Clemson and I texted
coach Shwiny, like what single digit numbers y'all have available?
Because I were number one in high school, so it
was just what I was used to and now he
said zero's only thing. I was like, all right, let's
do it. And then I get to Clemson and like
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they had there, like you said, there was no zeros before,
and then I was the first one, and all like
that's like all forever being history just because I'm the
first number zero. So it was special, and I hope
that you know that's just a legacy at Clemson, just
for decent players to wear that number and just keep
carrying on that tradition. So I hope that you know
that's that's that's gonna become a thing at Clemson.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
We're chatting with Barrett Carter. You were a fourth round
picking this year's draft. Describe the moments leading up to
the pick and then the feeling you got when the
phone rang.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
The most stressful, nerve wracking time of my whole life,
because the whole process is so like you don't know anything.
Like you can you can get all these predictions. You
can talk to your agents and acts like what are
they saying whatever, But until you get the phone call,
you don't know what's going on in that draft room.
So I mean, i'd be lying to you if I
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told you all if I thought I was gonna go
fourth out. I thought I was gonna go earlier. But
you know, the Lord makes no mistakes. And you know,
when I got that phone call, it was the best
feeling in the world. Just all the weight on my
shoulders were just completely lifted, and I was like I
was immediately, just like, let's get to work. Like I
cried so much Friday night because I didn't get my
name called and I was pissed off, and I was
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just so much, so many different emotions. But when I
saw I think it was a five one three area code,
that's yeah. So I saw the five one three and
I saw Cincinnati, I was like, let's do it, Like,
let's get to work. And I was just ready from
that moment on and I'm just ready to just leave
my leave my market in Cincinnati. All right, a few.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Wild card topics to wrap things up. It looks like
you did a ton of community service when you were
at Clemson, particularly with schools.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Why I remember, I was, you know, that little kid
and seeing the older athletes come in and read to
us and spend time with us, and I just thought
that was the coolest thing, because I was, I was,
I just admired that. I admire that, you know, they
took the time out of their day when they could
have been doing anything else and they came to spend
time with us. And I made a promise to myself,
like when I get to that, when I get to
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that age, I'm gonna give back and I'm gonna I'm
gonna be that figure that those kids look up to
and those kids love, and you know, whatever it may be,
but it's just a it's a promise that I made
to myself. Just I'm gonna get back my time. I'm
gonna get back to nowedge was instilled into me, and
now I'm gonna I'm gonna do that for us to
rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
If you could swap jerseys with any player in NFL history,
who are you swapping jerseys with?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Probably ray Lewis. Just he's someone that I grew up
just admiring and watching, especially when I switched the linebacker,
Like a big thing for me was the mindset and
like the mentality that you have to have to play
that position. He's just epitome of that. Like he's he
doesn't matter who you are, He's gonna go after you
and try to try to hunt you. So I would
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say ray Lewis, And I actually talked to him last
last year in the summer. Coach Sweeney put me on
the phone with him, and it was I was just
so starstruck. I didn't know what to say. But he's
someone that I grew up washing and grew up admiring,
so I would say Ray Lewis all right.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Final fun fact for Barret Carter. This one's kind of deep.
If you could meet anyone in history, living or deceased,
who would that person be?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
I would say, I have two, So I have to
give an athlete in a non athlete, I'll say Lebron
James because that's just that's my that's my guy. I
grew up watched, Yeah, Lebron for sure. Lebron James and
Denzel Washington. He's my favorite actor. I just watched both
or all three Equalizer movies and that just made me
love him even more so. Lebron James and Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Denzel is so good, so good, so.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Good, the best, not that Lebron isn't. But I'm really
with you, Denzel. You can't go on with either, so
I'll say those two.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
This has been great. Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Best of luck the rest of the year. Yeah, sorry,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Here's an invitation to join Dave Lapham and me for
the Bengals Game Plan Show this Wednesday night at game
on Sports Bar on Chevy at Road. We'll be there
from six to eight and our schedule. Guest in the
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