September 30, 2025 • 40 mins
Dan Hoard recaps Monday night’s loss at Denver with radio replays, locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then, in this week’s “Fun Facts” conversation, you’ll get to know rookie offensive lineman Jalen Rivers.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, get everybody on dan Hord and thanks for downloading
The Bengals Booth Podcast the one of these nights. Addition,
as we review Monday Night's loss in Denver, coming up
radio replays, locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lappham.
Then in this week's fun Facts Conversation, you'll get to
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and Steelers squared off in Dublin. The league is playing
seven international games this year, but At a panel discussion
in Ireland over the weekend, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said
that the league eventually wants to increase that to sixteen
per year so that every team plays one. I'm here
for it. The bengals two trips to London were among
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my favorite experiences as the team's radio voice, and I
look forward to Cincinnati's next international game, which seems certain
to happen in the next two years. No need for
a bunch of radio replays this week, just a few
key plays. Denver led seven to three early in the
second quarter when the Bengals made what looked like a
huge play. Crowning stops his right foot, drops straight back,
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the pocket closed as he flings it high and deep.
T Higgins high points the ball and catches it over
the beleaguered Riley Moss all the way down at the
Denver fourteen yard line. There's a penalty flag at the
line of scrimmage lasag A Marius Bimms penalized. Instead of
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having the ball at the Denver fourteen, the penalty on
Mims moved it all the way back to the Cincinnati
forty four a forty two yard swing. It was the
most costly of eleven Bengals penalties. Denver took a fourteen
to three lead, and it looked like that would be
the halftime score when rookie Demetrius Knight got the first
takeaway of his career with roughly two minutes left in
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the half. Nick's rolling right looking to throw the second
year QB fires and it is intercepted. You picked off
by Demetrius Knight in the corner of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
How about that played by the linebacker.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But Denver got the ball back with one oh nine
remaining and scored a backbreaking touchdown just before halftime. Nicks
back to throw. He's going to fire into the end
zone and it is caught for a touchdown eight seconds
left in the half, and a disastrous second quarter gets
worse for Cincinnati. The final score was twenty eight to
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three Denver. After scoring on their opening drive, the Bengals
were shut out the rest of the way, finishing with
just one hundred and fifty nine yards of offense. Here
are a few of Jake Browning's comments to reporters in
a postgame news conference.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Very frustrating loss, and yeah, well you are a back
to work and figure out how we can be more
productive on offense and stop putting our defense in batspots.
As far as from returnover perspective, like, yeah, we played clean,
but we didn't move the ball, so who cares for me?
Like when you're struggling on offense and struggling to move
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the ball, it's it's fighting that urge to you know,
have those frustration throws who're like trying to make something
happen and the next thing you know, it's an interception.
So you know, that's kind of that line you have
to tell. As far as I didn't feel like there
was anything down the field, just off of memory and
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looking at the pictures on the sideline, I didn't feel
like there was anything down the field where I was like, ah,
I should have thrown that, but I was too afraid
of making a mistake, so I didn't, you know, I
think for the most part, I mean I hesitate to
say I put the ball where I was supposed to
go on each play because we didn't do anything on offense.
But for the most part that was kind of the case.
I didn't think effort was an issue. I think just
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the last two weeks just feels like I've never really
had momentum, haven't really been explosive, haven't well, you know,
one or two good plays, and then we'll get into
a first and twenty and that's just you're fighting a
hard battle with one arm behind your back when you
end up in longer situations second and long, first and
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long leading to third and long, and you know it's
not good offenses don't do that, so we need to
clean it up. And yeah, I mean I don't have
I don't think effort was an issue. I never questioned
anybody's effort in the locker room. I don't really think
that's how everything goes for the Bengals. But you know,
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I do think it's a time when you've had two
tough losses where you have performed wrong offense. So you
do have to look at the mir and say, okay,
what is my role in this? And you know, removing
all the emotion and outside noise and just saying looking
at the film and saying, okay, what is my role
in this? What do I need to do better? And
for me, that's like I said, because you're entire of
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me hearing about it here you say it, but that's
going to be my focus this week.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So what's a change in the Bengals starting lineup is
rookie Jalen Rivers got his first started right guard. I
spoke to him after the game. Jalen, you made your
first NFL start tonight. When did you know that was
going to be the case today? So we made it
find the last today and you know, I was out there.
How'd you feel about, Hey, that opportunity and be how
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you play.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know, I feel great about the opportunity. You got
to make the most of it, and I feel like
I did decent from most where. Of course, you look
back at the film, it's some things to work on,
and of course we didn't come out with the outcome
we wanted. But it felt great to be out there
and you can learn from it and grow from it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You started well offensively, drove down the field, kicked the
field goal on the opening drive. What did you think
was working then?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean, we just had everything was just we were
executing things really good that drive. We just got sustained
that for the rest of the game. What changed, you know,
things happened we you know, penalties weren't going you know,
stuff like that. Just not adjusting after the penalties, and
you know, things weren't going our way. We lost momentum
and things just went left for us.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
How demoralizing were some of those penalties, particularly the Big
Game to Tea, where you would have been at the
fourteen yard line.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You know, things happened in football. You got to learn
from it and move forward. You know, we didn't play
our best game, but things happen, penalties, You got to
learn how to bounce back from it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Broncos have a great pass rushing front. How difficult is
it under these circumstances, loud, crowd, momentum in their favor,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I mean we knew that going in that you know
they have a you know, the mile high stadium that
is allowed. You're going against the E league rushing defense.
I mean we knew that going in. We just did
it come with the outcome we wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How do you flash it?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Move on? You got to flich it now. I mean
we move forward to it's a short week. We move
forward to Detroit on Sunday, So when we fly back,
sleep on it, learn from it, watch the film. We're
gonna learn how to learn from it. Just really quick
because we're off tomorrow. Come back Wednesday, or whatever day Wednesday,
and we're starting on Detroit, So you got to get
that out of your MinC with appreciate your time. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We'll get to know Jailing much better later in this
week's fun fact segment. The Broncos offense was excellent, finishing
with three hundred and twenty six passing yards and one
eighty six on the ground. That's five twelve in all.
One bright spot on the Bengals defense was Demitrius Knight,
who tied for the team lead in tackles with ten
and came away with the game's only takeaway to be true.
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She had double digit tackles and an interception tonight. Let's
start with that interception. It's a huge play at the time.
Just describe it for us.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, first and foremost, I wouldn't have been in that
position when to make that catch and secure the catch
that I'm my lord and say for Jesus Christ, and
that's why I'm ultimately why I'm here.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We're all here. But what to play?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
What a way to step up and you know, get it,
try to get this out of situation. Just to create momentum.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Football is a game of momentum. When you have it
you have it, and when you don't, you don't. It's
kind of hard to generate it. But we gotta find
different ways generated offense. We gotta find ways to generate
on offense and defense. We've got to compliment it. We've
got to get it right back to them. So we
are in the process of iron out the kinks stu early.
We're not defeated yet. We're just going to the drawing board,
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just as a lot of teams are doing across the
league right now. So everybody still find their identity. We
know what the identity is. We're just you know, in
a metaphor, we're still on the climb, still on that
journey to get there, to put down the roots of
what we want to be, who we're trying to be.
So people are itching to get back to where I
know I am.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're in for almost every snap, Barrett played a bunch.
Do you feel like you two guys grow with every
NFL gaming play.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Absolutely, That's all this is is. Learn to be consistent,
learn to trust your brothers, your left and to your right,
knowing that you can get the play call, echo the
play call, and go out there and do your best,
do your one eleventh to make sure that we can
get off the field. And that's what we're gonna continue
to do as a defense, and we're gonna continue as
an offense to grow and put points out when the
time it's called.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How challenging are the Broncos to defend? Very good screen game,
good offensive line, punishing runners. Talk about that challenge.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yeah, we step up for every challenge. You gotta step
up to every challenge in the NFL. All teams are.
They have their favorite play, and they have their momentum
plays and their their big momentum shifts, and teams find
what their bread and butter is for them, that's their
bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And every week.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You gotta have a plan for We always have a plan.
We have an answer for everything. We just have to
know when to put the right answers in the and
to play if you will, and not overload our minds
and just make it simple so that everybody can play fast.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What's the touchdown with eight seconds left in the half?
A big blow because it was fourteen to three at
that point.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Right, Definitely a big blow, But it's you got to
kind of go back to your your little league quarterback
days or just Little League days in general, where you
know you hear a lot of coaches and even my
dad would say, you know, have short term memory. You
know when you come back out, what another you get
a next opportunity. There are no failures. There are just opportunities,
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just missed opportunities. So there are no failures on the field.
We don't consider as an a fair We see it
as a missed opportunity. So and then you know, going
into the next half, what a next an opportunity? You
get to come out of the gate and get through
and out. So that's that's that's what you want to
stand on. So it's about learning from missed opportunities, never
learning from failures because we don't have failures because we
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get to play the game that we love.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The offense had a good first drive, then struggle to
sustain things that had some costly penalties that meant the
defense was out there for a long stretch high altitude.
We did it start to wear on you guys?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I would say that it did.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's of course, it's hard to to really train in
that type of situation in high altitude. You can hydrates
as much as you can, it's it's nothing until you
get in so but it's it's about, you know, learn
to breathe learn to calm yourself down, be in the
moment and not you know, run rapid in your mind.
Oh man, I can't catt some bred what's to play
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call things like that. Just rely on your training at
practice when you know you have those tough Thursday practices
on purpose so that the games can be easier.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So you don't flitch one your only home game. You
got the second one coming up. It's a big challenge
against Detroit. As a defender, how much do you look
forward to trying to show Okay, it's one of the
best offenses in the league, but we can compete with
these guys.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Absolutely. That's that's the love of the NFL. You get
to go against the best of the best. I know,
my former team major mir Giz, I'll be looking forward to,
you know, putting them on the ground and talking talking
a little here and there, but definitely looking forward to
playing against the best of the best. He's one of
the best of the best. They're one of the best
of the best, Jared Goff and what they bring to
the table offensively with their you know, their firepower. I
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believe we have the firepower to match that and cancel
it and go the you know, blow for blow. So
what an opportunity again to show showcase what we can
do on defense, to not just say who we want
to be, but to put it on tape who we
are and the same thing as.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Offense can grat tight your first peck. Appreciate the time, Yes,
I appreciate you. Now let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor,
who spent a couple of minutes with Dave Lapham after
the game.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Once you come to the locker and you talk to
your guys, you find out the mindset that you guys have.
What do you say to them? Yeah, well, obviously they're disappointed,
as they should be. We score three points, so we
have the amount of penalties we had on offense that
you're gonna have a hard time winning against a.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Good team on the road. And so those are things
that are correctable. There's certainly things that we can improve upon,
and I know that we will. I thought our defense
showed us at moments in this game what we needed
against a really good football team. And so again we
just early in the season, we're two and two, like
a lot of teams in this league. How we're gonna
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respond to it?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's I guess the question, the big question. You mentioned
the defense, So I thought the defense did respond. I
thought that, you know, there was a lack of support,
I guess is the best way to put it in
terms of the offense holding onto the football, keeping the football,
scoring points, getting yards and all that sort of thing.
What do you tell your defense in the locker room
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after a game like this.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Keep building on it, keep building on it, and eventually
the turnovers are going to come. The offense is going
to find its identity and create some momentum there to
take some of the pressure off some of those long
drives that they're having to deal with. So again, it's
four games in the season. I have a ton of conferences.
The football team. Again, it's just look around the league.
Who's going to respond to adversity early in the league.
And I feels good about our team as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You've got quarterback jack Jake Browning that has responded to adversity.
I mean, his whole career has been built unresponding to adversity. Really,
he seems to be a guy that, no matter what
the stakes are, how many odds he has to face,
whatever the situation is, he picks himself up in response.
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Do you expect that to happen again?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I mean we walked into it as hard of an
environment as you're gonna face Monday night football on the
road in Denver with with one of the better fronts
in all the league, with the defensive player of the
year and the secondary. It's a tough unit to go against,
and you're gonna have to make some plays. You're gonna
have to find a way as a quarterback to make
some plays, or receivers have got to make some plays.
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Our lines got to hold up and make some plays.
Our back's got to make somebody miss and make some plays.
So just as a unit, we've got to find a
way to be a little more explosive. And again, the
penalties really set us back. We had a lot of
unforced airs that we can't accept.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Remember playing against a defensive front like this when I
was a player, it might not have like just one
pass rusher. They got four. They get four guys that
can rush the pass or at a high level. So
it's not just one guy that you can slide double
triple team or whatever. Every one of these guys gets
in their rush lane, takes control of their rush lane.
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That's even a tougher dynamic to handle, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's tough.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I mean it's an outstanding front. Again, we got to
do the little things to give ourselves an advantage. We just
didn't do enough.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
That's night.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
What about some of your players that you count on
to give you big performances every week? How did how
did they play? How did Jamar play for you? How
did how did he play for you?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
He's competing, you know, and it's we got to continue
to find a way strust we do the whole week.
We're trying to find ways to get these guys the ball.
The other team knows that they're trying to find ways
to take the ball away from them. So again, it's
something we look at every single week. Some defenses make
it difficult for you and you got to be patient
with it and let those oppertunities come to you. And unfortunately,
we just weren't able to do a lot of great
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things on the field today.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You think this defense had a pretty good handle on
what you were trying to do and how you were
trying to do it. By formation, by personnel, by motion
and all that sort of thing. Do you think that
they had a pretty good handle on what was happening.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I think they've had a pretty good handle on every
team they played against because they got great talent, they
got a veteran de coordinator. At home, they get a
chance to use their crowd and t off on the cadence.
So again, we just got to do better job as
a unit.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So here's how things look in the AFC Nord. The
Steelers are in first at three and one, a game
ahead of the Bengals. Pittsburgh has a bye this week
after beating the Vikings in London. The Ravens are one
and three and have allowed thirty five or more points
in all three losses. Injuries are mounting as well as
Lamar Jackson, Ronnie Stanley, rope On Smith, and Marlon Humphreys
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are among the players dealing with various aches and pains.
The Ravens host Houston this week. Cleveland has also won
in three and the Browns have not topped seventeen points
in any of their games this year. They're in London
this week to face the Vikings, who stayed there after
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Now time for the radio guy's recap. Tough night for
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the Bengals Lap. Let's start with the offense. They've got
to find a way to get something going two years
ago when Joe missed the last seven games, By and large,
they did, and they didn't score as many points as
they did with Joe, but they scored enough to win.
They just have not functioned well the last two weeks
on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, they really haven't. I think the biggest thing that
they've got to do is find a way to run
the football. I mean, as a former alignment, I'd I'd
be embarrassed. I'd be embarrassed myself, my teammates, for everybody involved,
the coaches, it's you know, it's going to be you know,
all hands on deck with respect to it. Uh, everybody's
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got to, you know, realize that it's not good enough.
We got to do something about it, and we gotta
we have the worm has to turn quickly, and the
only way to do it is to get back to
work and you know, putting the time at practice, you know,
maybe think of different ways that they might be able
to gain plan and uh, formation people and with personnel
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groupings and motion and uh, you know, I don't know.
It's a it's a it's so bad. It really is
about as bad as I've seen in a long time
because of the talent level. If they had nobody, if
they didn't have any players, would be like, hey, you know,
this is expected. This is shocking how bad it is
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with the players and coaches and everybody that they've got
that they can't go out and perform at a higher
level than they are.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Jalen Rivers moved into the starting lineup at right guard tonight.
So they've got a rookie starting at left guard and
a rookie starting at right guard. What issues does that create?
And are you in favor of it in the sense
that these are talented guys, Let's get them the experience
so that we've got something down the road.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, it does create a lot of issues, but they
don't have any choice. I mean, they don't really have
anybody else because guys are nicked up. Guys that have
some play of time, some NFL starts in playing time
are on the bench with injury. But they haven't really
worked together all that much anyway. So it's not like
you're taking a cohesive offensive line and blowing it up
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and saying, you know, this guy's short of that guy.
It's they're injured, but they've never been a unit that was,
you know, one of the top in the league in
terms of going out and executing and performing because they've
been around together for such a long period of time.
So you know, I think if they don't have a
choice but to put Jalen Rivers in there. And it's
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in my mind it's not like he doesn't belong. I
think he belongs in the National FOOTB League. I think
he's a good player. I think he's got a very
bright future. I think that these snaps that he's getting
right now are going to be invaluable to him as
he grows and matures as an offensive lineman in this league.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I think he's going to be a really good one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Five catches for Jamar Chase in the game. They didn't
go for a ton of yards. Have we reached the
point where you have to line him up in the
backfield a couple of times. You've got to do some
reverses and jet sweeps, whatever it takes to try to
see if you can get him the ball to make
a big play.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I mean, I like the way you think, and you know,
get the ball in his hands, get him involved. I mean,
he's got to be unbelievably frustrated that this guy is
one of the greatest players in the National Football League,
you know, just a tremendous football player, one of the
best wide receivers. Is not the best that the beanngs
have ever had. I mean they do. They have to
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figure out ways. If it's in the backfield, you know,
getting them some carriers, tossing the football to him, or whatever,
jet sweeps or you know, whatever the case may be. Screens,
receiver screens, middle screens, outside screens. Find ways to give
him the football. I mean, he's too good of a player,
he's too much of a threat. I mean, he is
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the ultimate weapon. Every team in the NFL every single
year is looking for Jamar Chase in the draft or
in free agency, and we got them. We got one.
He's under contract, so we got to figure out a
way to use this dude and don't waste them.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
This is a phenomenal locker room with a lot of leaders,
but the human beings, and when you take back to
back lopsided losses, it's hard not to splinter a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
How do you avoid that?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
If you're Zach Taylor and you're the captains on this team.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, it's it's natural to start questioning everything. You question yourself,
you question your teammates, You question the head coach. I mean,
what's going on? How can we not perform better than this?
What is what's what's happening? You start to question the coordinators,
You start to question position coach, You question everybody. You
question what you're eating. Your question how you're working out,
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You question what your wife doing. You know, I mean
everything there is the question in your life. You're questioning
it because you know your life's so unsettled, because this
is what you're all about. This is your job, this
is the National Football League, grown men playing a kids game,
and you're getting paid handsomely to do it. I mean,
everybody in the world would want to have your job,
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So you know, you're not going to spit the bid
on it. You're not going to give it up. But
things have to change, and they have to change quickly.
I mean, there are only four games into the season.
They're two and two. As you said, you know, I mean,
they're they're right, they're in the hunt. They just can't
they can't let the hunt get too far away from them,
whether they can't catch up to everybody that's in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They didn't turn it over tonight, that's a positive. But
the penalties were killers double digit penalties in the game,
including four in a two minute span in the second
quarter when it looked like they were going to have
the ball at the fourteen yard line. I thought that
really swung the momentum in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
All kinds of penalties to all different types of procedural penalties,
you know, sloppy hands penalties, whether it's holding offense or
defensive holding, whether it's interference, pass interference, getting a little
bit too handsy, too grab you out there. I mean,
you know, when you're struggling and you've only got three
points on the board and less than two hundred yards
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and you have a big plane that comes back because
what you did, not what the defense did to take
it away from which you did to take it away
from yourself. There's no worse feeling in the world than
that when you're I mean, it's like, you know, you
haven't eaten for a week, and all of a sudden,
there's you know, a scrap of food comes your way
and you know you're almost ready to bite it, and
it's gone. You know, it's taken away from you. It's
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just it's a it's a sick feeling, that's for sure.
And these guys, uh, right now. You know I've been
there walking around this locker room looking at these guys faces.
I'm like, yeah, I know, I know. I know what
you feel, and I know what you I know what
you think, and I know what you feel like. I've
been there. The only thing that is going nobody's going
to feel sorry for you, and they shouldn't. Nobody should
feel sorry for you. Everybody's got their own problems. What
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you're going to do is go back to work, grind
it out. That's what got you here. You know you're
good enough to be here. Don't question everything, go out
and play.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I am still very confident that Al Golden is an
excellent defensive coordinator and he's going to do a really
good job in Cincinnati. But maybe I was naive to
think it would happen overnight. It's a work in progress.
They've got a lot of young guys, and boy, they
have to try to make some major strides in a
short period of time with the high scoring Lions coming
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to town next week.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Everybody's good. I mean it's the NFL. There's no schmucks
in there, man, I mean it's everybody. Everybody's got a quarterback.
Everybody's good. Everybody's got players everywhere, the skill player. Everybody's
got lineman. Again, I still think the biggest problem the
area for the Bengals is offensive defensive line. They have
to get that rectified, whether it be you know, trade,
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whether it be free agency, you know, at the end
of this year at some point or next year, or
in the draft or in college free agency. They got
to get more people in here that can play football
at a high level competing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, I mean every way that you have at your
disposal to continue to improve those two units that's got
to be the priority O line and D line. Now,
it'll help when Jamar Stewart comes back. He looked really
good in the games that he played, but you're going
to have to continue to pour resources into trying to
improve those two units.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Absolutely, And you know, think about how they got some
of the guys they got that are playing at a
good level.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For him, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Brown, you know, he he he was a free agent,
veteran free agent, Cares, veteran free agent.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
They and then the lineman, and you got some rookie
guys and they're at the guard position in the draft
and they're trying to learn from these veteran guys. Veteran
guys are trying to help the younger players. I mean,
right now, it's a it's a mess. I mean, everybody is,
everybody's looking for answers and and nobody's got you know,
clear cut answers. And when you're when you're kind of
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whistling and dark like that, it's a bad place to be.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Well, I'm sorry, Game number one thousand wasn't a great
Bengals victory, but hopefully Game number one thousand and one
will be.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm all for that, Dan, I mean appreciate. The kind
words that you had for me means a lot. You're
a great friend, a great broadcaster. You understand the game
of football. Anything you say about football, you know is
is meaningful and it means a lot to me, that's
for sure. So appreciate you and hopefully the Bengals appreciate
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each other a little bit more, you know, and go
out and try to win some football games for each other.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Up next a home game against the high scoring Detroit Lions.
That's a four to twenty five kick next Sunday at
pay Course Stadium. Now time for this week's fun fact
segment as we get to know a fifth round pick
in this year's draft out of the University of Miami.
Time for some fun facts with rookie offensive linemen Jalen
(27:34):
Rivers from Jacksonville, Florida. Jalen, we learned on Draft Day
that your mother, father, and stepfather all served in the
Navy for more than thirty years. How did their military
background shape your upbringing?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm an upbringing as anybody would guess, you know,
come from a millerity background, strict household. Everything you learn
in discipline at a very young age since I came
off the womb. But also other than discipline, just hard
work and you know, is dedicated in your all into
something you want. So your goal, you have to reach it.
Nothing to be given to you, obviously, but literally them
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picking me up late at night from the YMCA school,
coming from work, and then them making sure I go
to practice, do all the sports. I was a year
long athlete, basketball, football, track and field, whatever it was.
Take me to sports, making sure I do my homework, showering,
and just repeating that cycle every single day while one
parent was in deployment and deployment for like nine months.
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You grow up quick because you got to be like,
you got to make sure everything's you know, straight, because yeah,
I had siblings in the house wild, but you got
to do things yourself growing up, and you got to
learn like, this is what it takes to get what
you want. So all that combined, you know, strict house
will make you bad. Do this. It's very militant, but
I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He told me once, you were not allowed to go
out on school nights.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Don't know, I was never you could ask them and
if I did shoot, I don't even know when I did.
But if it was to go to the movies, be
back at a certain time, if I did all my
homework and they trusted me, everything was done, maybe that
was rare. Though.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is the Army Navy game a huge thing in your household?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Actually it's not. But because we grew up very we
watched a lot of college football, like Miami. My stepdad
was a big Miami fan, so we grew up watching
a lot of Miami Florida, Miami, Florida State, a lot
of them games. But at the same time, when Army
and Navy was playing, my stepdad my mom were kind
of following it, but it wasn't a big thing. Like
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if they were playing, we're watching it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
We're visiting the Jalen Rivers. You're six sex with a
seven foot wingspan. Did you always tower over the other
kids when you were growing up?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh, definitely, up until I want to say, the first
time I saw somebody told to me or like, you know,
same height as me, maybe sixth grade maybe, and that
was my friends, my god brother, Like that's when I'm like, okay,
I was a year younger than them, actually, but we
were the same height. So we played ball together, basketball, football,
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au and all that stuff. So that's the first time
I I saw a lot of people my height are
maybe taller than me. But at the same time, when
I went to school and we were at school, we
were the main ones. It was a handful of us,
but we were tall, and everybody everybody was looking up
those Oh you're so tall. Yeah, so I got that
when I was young.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Did you like that or did it make your self conscious?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It never really made me self conscious. I mean it
didn't bother me at all. Actually, it's just got tiring
because everybody, even families, you know, parents' kids. It was
my whole life, how tall are you? Oh you're so tall?
How is it? How's the weather up there? That type
of joke. But I mean getting it. It's just like I
know I was tall when I started understanding that I
was tall, and people keep asking me, people keep staring.
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So out in public, people stare or talk to you.
Now if you're wearing back in the when all that
Miami Miami stuff now Bengal stuff. They know I'm a
full player, and they even if I wasn't, if I'm
bigger than everybody, They're just asking and talking and staring,
so I'm used to it now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And youth football, did parents of kids on the other
team express concern or wonder if you are actually too old?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
No, and this is a true story. You can ask
my parents. My mom had to really bring my birth
certificate everywhere I went au and when I played Little
League in football, I had to bring my birtha everywhere
because everybody made a big deal like I was too old.
Really I was younger than their kids too, because I
was playing eight U TENU when I was a year
young and everybody maybe two years young and everybody, so
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I'm like, here, this is the birth certificate. True. You know,
I was born in Virginia. This is the certificate of
Virginia in the Commonwealth. This is my birth certificate. And
I'm this old. So they still didn't believe it though.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
We're chatting with Jalen Rivers. You attended Oak Leaf High
School in Jacksonville and became one of the top offensive
line recruits in the country. It offers from Alabama, Michigan,
Penn State, you name it. Did you enjoy the attention
or did you get tired of it?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
People that know me, they know I don't like attention.
I don't like the spotlight, but I've I'm used to
it now because even though I didn't like it, I
formed a you know, to I guess, embrace it at
one point in time because I'm I'm getting interviewed again.
Oh you know, everybody's like, you know, calling me up
to the office. My teachers like, hey, so and so,
coach is here, this school is here to see you.
(32:08):
So I mean, it was very fun to travel and
visit and do camps and all that, but at one point,
I'm like, I'm tired of this because I hate the attention.
Everybody's just like at school, like, oh my god, you
got offered today, and it's like yeah, but me mean,
but you know, I love I wouldn't trade it, like
I said, for anything, but I don't really like the attentioner.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You ultimately chose the University of Miami. Why the you?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It's funny because at one point it wasn't Miami wasn't
even consideration because they weren't recruiting me as hard. And
then they picked it back up towards some I want
to say, my end of my sophomore at first my
early junior year, but they just continue recruiting me hard,
and just like because at first I was about to
pick Georgia. I was about I was just close to
going to Georgia and then but Miami just kept recruiting me,
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Hey can you come to this game? Hey can you
come this visit? And I kept going and you just
feel that family atmosphere. And of course the coaches that
were recruited me, some of them were still there when
I got there, but some of them weren't. But I
just still felt that I wasn't going because a coach,
but I just ever some went to you urse Miami
a visit. I was like, I just feel like family,
you know, oriented it just it felt like a family
(33:12):
atmosphere and I wanted to play it the U And
then you know it was close to home too, so
that played a factor. You know, it was Miami, Florida, Georgia,
but but Miami just stole it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
The Bangals selected you in the fifth round of this
year's draft. Described your draft weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I was anxious because you know, during that draft, you
don't know when you're gonna get picked. You might have
an idea, your agent's like, oh maybe this round and
this round, but it's really a waiting game. But I
want to say I threw it was I had like
something on Friday where family just came over. During that
second day, second and third round, they came over and
we had like a smaller barbecue, but you know, I
was like, I might be I'm probably day three. So
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but Saturday, everybody came back and we threw something. And
then it's just a waiting game. I just tried to
get my mind off everything, and you know, we had
some food food. I actually cooked mac and cheese because
I wanted to get my mind off of everything. But
I didn't want to wait, so I made mac and
cheese just you know, just with family. And then when
the fourth round started, you know, fifth round, I was
just just waiting, waiting, waiting, talking to my friend's family.
(34:17):
Then my name gets called or I get that call Cincinnati, Ohio,
and then I answered it is coach Taylor and he's
just talking and he's like, hey, we're gonna pick you
you know next. I'm like, oh my god, did I really?
I was speechless, but you know, I was just like
feel with gratitude at the time. And then after that call,
family has just recorded me. You know, I hate attention.
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I get my hat. Then when they called my name
on the screen or put my name on the screen,
put my hat on. Just dap everybody up, hug everybody,
and then we just partied. You know, we we ate.
I didn't eat really that whole morning. I slept horrible
that night before because I was just my mind was
just I'm like, I need to know where I'm going
with her when I'm getting picked. But it was anxious,
but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Your current Bank teammate Matt Lee, played with you for
one year at Miami. He said the following of everyone
I've played with, Jalen is one of the highest character
dudes ever. What does being a high character dude mean?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Do you? It means I come in every day with
a positive attitude. I never if I have a bad day,
I'm not really gonna show it because I'm here for
you know, I want to make everybody around me better.
So if I come in you know, drowsy or you know,
with low energy, then it's not making everybody around me better.
It's not making me better. So having a high character
just doing things the right way how I was raised,
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not letting anything around me, any person around me, change me.
And just I mean just being me. I mean, I
don't really want to be fake or anything like. I
just be me and if somebody likes me, I just
I just had a good opportunity when I was at
Miami or my whole life, I just been me. I
just like making people around me better. And it's just
having a positive attitude, so having a high character. Everything
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I do on the field, I'm gonna do it off
the field too, you know, just being the the person
my mother raised me, my parents raised me to be.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You shared with me previously that you are into cooking,
and you mentioned in this interview that you made mac
and cheese during the draft. How into it do you
watch cooking shows? Do you check out Cookbucks or recipes?
How deeply are you into cooking?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well, my biological dad, he's a chef. He caters his
own catering business. So I never really cooked growing up
because I really didn't have the time. I was too
involved with sports class, you know, a year a long athlete,
doing school, I did not want to cook anything, actually
do anything else fro on my plate. So I want
to say, I just wanted to find out how to
be outside of football, and then I just started going
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you know to visit my dad a lot more, and
then you know, he started teaching me recipes helped him
during catering events. I want to learn how to make
this because I want to make food. I don't want
to keep wasting my money buying food. So yeah, I
learned I can make really chicken, palm, any type of
post obviously braised ribs, mac and cheese, you know, shoot,
name it stuff, salmon.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I'm salivating. Who is your all time favorite athlete
in any sport?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I want to say Kobe Bryant just obviously he's a
legend on the court, but at the same time, what
he's done for the community too. And then just being
from Miami, I want to say also, or not from Miami,
but going to Miami. Ray Lewis too. You know, growing up,
my stepdad loved ray Lewis, so I watched him every
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single time we watched the NFL Baltimore Ravens, watched clips
of him at Miami. You know, I love what he does.
He brings that energy, and just I love being around
people that just bring that energy. You just love the
game of football. So growing up, we watched a lot
of him, and then he's came back and taught to
Miami when I was at Miami a couple of years ago.
And great person.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
All right, final fun fact for Jalen Rivers. This one's
kind of deep. If you could meet anyone in history,
living or deceased, who would that person be.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'm just say family, cause it's like not really anybody,
any celebrity, but like just I'm a big family god.
So like my grandpa that passed away, Like I feel
like since I would move to Florida with my mom
and my stepdad, my dad was still in Virginia. That's
my dad's dad, and I really didn't have an opportunity
to form that bond really but when I lived in
Virginia or when I went back to Virginia, we saw
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each other every time I went, but like I didn't
really form that grandson and grandfather bond. And every time,
you know, I went back, it was only for like
a couple hours. So and then he passed away when
I was a freshman in high school. So it's like,
you know, when that when he passed, I was like, dang,
but I wish he was still alive, so I can
you know, form that bond and you know, he would
love to see you know where I was. Even with
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my mom's dad too. He passed away when I was
when I was about six seven. So yeah, I wish
my grandparents still alive so I can have this. They
can be on this ride with me.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They would both be very proud. I can promise you
that jailing this has been great and I appreciate your time.
I'm best have left the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Appreciate you have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Here's an invitation to join Dave Lapham and me for
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since More NFL international games. The NFL played its first
regular season game in Ireland this weekend, as the Vikings
(01:08):
and Steelers squared off in Dublin. The league is playing
seven international games this year, but At a panel discussion
in Ireland over the weekend, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said
that the league eventually wants to increase that to sixteen
per year so that every team plays one. I'm here
for it. The bengals two trips to London were among
(01:31):
my favorite experiences as the team's radio voice, and I
look forward to Cincinnati's next international game, which seems certain
to happen in the next two years. No need for
a bunch of radio replays this week, just a few
key plays. Denver led seven to three early in the
second quarter when the Bengals made what looked like a
huge play. Crowning stops his right foot, drops straight back,
(01:54):
the pocket closed as he flings it high and deep.
T Higgins high points the ball and catches it over
the beleaguered Riley Moss all the way down at the
Denver fourteen yard line. There's a penalty flag at the
line of scrimmage lasag A Marius Bimms penalized. Instead of
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having the ball at the Denver fourteen, the penalty on
Mims moved it all the way back to the Cincinnati
forty four a forty two yard swing. It was the
most costly of eleven Bengals penalties. Denver took a fourteen
to three lead, and it looked like that would be
the halftime score when rookie Demetrius Knight got the first
takeaway of his career with roughly two minutes left in
(02:37):
the half. Nick's rolling right looking to throw the second
year QB fires and it is intercepted. You picked off
by Demetrius Knight in the corner of the end zone.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
How about that played by the linebacker.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
But Denver got the ball back with one oh nine
remaining and scored a backbreaking touchdown just before halftime. Nicks
back to throw. He's going to fire into the end
zone and it is caught for a touchdown eight seconds
left in the half, and a disastrous second quarter gets
worse for Cincinnati. The final score was twenty eight to
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three Denver. After scoring on their opening drive, the Bengals
were shut out the rest of the way, finishing with
just one hundred and fifty nine yards of offense. Here
are a few of Jake Browning's comments to reporters in
a postgame news conference.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Very frustrating loss, and yeah, well you are a back
to work and figure out how we can be more
productive on offense and stop putting our defense in batspots.
As far as from returnover perspective, like, yeah, we played clean,
but we didn't move the ball, so who cares for me?
Like when you're struggling on offense and struggling to move
(03:49):
the ball, it's it's fighting that urge to you know,
have those frustration throws who're like trying to make something
happen and the next thing you know, it's an interception.
So you know, that's kind of that line you have
to tell. As far as I didn't feel like there
was anything down the field, just off of memory and
(04:10):
looking at the pictures on the sideline, I didn't feel
like there was anything down the field where I was like, ah,
I should have thrown that, but I was too afraid
of making a mistake, so I didn't, you know, I
think for the most part, I mean I hesitate to
say I put the ball where I was supposed to
go on each play because we didn't do anything on offense.
But for the most part that was kind of the case.
I didn't think effort was an issue. I think just
(04:34):
the last two weeks just feels like I've never really
had momentum, haven't really been explosive, haven't well, you know,
one or two good plays, and then we'll get into
a first and twenty and that's just you're fighting a
hard battle with one arm behind your back when you
end up in longer situations second and long, first and
(04:57):
long leading to third and long, and you know it's
not good offenses don't do that, so we need to
clean it up. And yeah, I mean I don't have
I don't think effort was an issue. I never questioned
anybody's effort in the locker room. I don't really think
that's how everything goes for the Bengals. But you know,
(05:21):
I do think it's a time when you've had two
tough losses where you have performed wrong offense. So you
do have to look at the mir and say, okay,
what is my role in this? And you know, removing
all the emotion and outside noise and just saying looking
at the film and saying, okay, what is my role
in this? What do I need to do better? And
for me, that's like I said, because you're entire of
(05:43):
me hearing about it here you say it, but that's
going to be my focus this week.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So what's a change in the Bengals starting lineup is
rookie Jalen Rivers got his first started right guard. I
spoke to him after the game. Jalen, you made your
first NFL start tonight. When did you know that was
going to be the case today? So we made it
find the last today and you know, I was out there.
How'd you feel about, Hey, that opportunity and be how
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you play.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know, I feel great about the opportunity. You got
to make the most of it, and I feel like
I did decent from most where. Of course, you look
back at the film, it's some things to work on,
and of course we didn't come out with the outcome
we wanted. But it felt great to be out there
and you can learn from it and grow from it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
You started well offensively, drove down the field, kicked the
field goal on the opening drive. What did you think
was working then?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I mean, we just had everything was just we were
executing things really good that drive. We just got sustained
that for the rest of the game. What changed, you know,
things happened we you know, penalties weren't going you know,
stuff like that. Just not adjusting after the penalties, and
you know, things weren't going our way. We lost momentum
and things just went left for us.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
How demoralizing were some of those penalties, particularly the Big
Game to Tea, where you would have been at the
fourteen yard line.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You know, things happened in football. You got to learn
from it and move forward. You know, we didn't play
our best game, but things happen, penalties, You got to
learn how to bounce back from it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Broncos have a great pass rushing front. How difficult is
it under these circumstances, loud, crowd, momentum in their favor,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I mean we knew that going in that you know
they have a you know, the mile high stadium that
is allowed. You're going against the E league rushing defense.
I mean we knew that going in. We just did
it come with the outcome we wanted.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How do you flash it?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Move on? You got to flich it now. I mean
we move forward to it's a short week. We move
forward to Detroit on Sunday, So when we fly back,
sleep on it, learn from it, watch the film. We're
gonna learn how to learn from it. Just really quick
because we're off tomorrow. Come back Wednesday, or whatever day Wednesday,
and we're starting on Detroit, So you got to get
that out of your MinC with appreciate your time. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We'll get to know Jailing much better later in this
week's fun fact segment. The Broncos offense was excellent, finishing
with three hundred and twenty six passing yards and one
eighty six on the ground. That's five twelve in all.
One bright spot on the Bengals defense was Demitrius Knight,
who tied for the team lead in tackles with ten
and came away with the game's only takeaway to be true.
(08:12):
She had double digit tackles and an interception tonight. Let's
start with that interception. It's a huge play at the time.
Just describe it for us.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, first and foremost, I wouldn't have been in that
position when to make that catch and secure the catch
that I'm my lord and say for Jesus Christ, and
that's why I'm ultimately why I'm here.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
We're all here. But what to play?
Speaker 5 (08:32):
What a way to step up and you know, get it,
try to get this out of situation. Just to create momentum.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Football is a game of momentum. When you have it
you have it, and when you don't, you don't. It's
kind of hard to generate it. But we gotta find
different ways generated offense. We gotta find ways to generate
on offense and defense. We've got to compliment it. We've
got to get it right back to them. So we
are in the process of iron out the kinks stu early.
We're not defeated yet. We're just going to the drawing board,
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just as a lot of teams are doing across the
league right now. So everybody still find their identity. We
know what the identity is. We're just you know, in
a metaphor, we're still on the climb, still on that
journey to get there, to put down the roots of
what we want to be, who we're trying to be.
So people are itching to get back to where I
know I am.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're in for almost every snap, Barrett played a bunch.
Do you feel like you two guys grow with every
NFL gaming play.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Absolutely, That's all this is is. Learn to be consistent,
learn to trust your brothers, your left and to your right,
knowing that you can get the play call, echo the
play call, and go out there and do your best,
do your one eleventh to make sure that we can
get off the field. And that's what we're gonna continue
to do as a defense, and we're gonna continue as
an offense to grow and put points out when the
time it's called.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How challenging are the Broncos to defend? Very good screen game,
good offensive line, punishing runners. Talk about that challenge.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yeah, we step up for every challenge. You gotta step
up to every challenge in the NFL. All teams are.
They have their favorite play, and they have their momentum
plays and their their big momentum shifts, and teams find
what their bread and butter is for them, that's their
bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And every week.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You gotta have a plan for We always have a plan.
We have an answer for everything. We just have to
know when to put the right answers in the and
to play if you will, and not overload our minds
and just make it simple so that everybody can play fast.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
What's the touchdown with eight seconds left in the half?
A big blow because it was fourteen to three at
that point.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Right, Definitely a big blow, But it's you got to
kind of go back to your your little league quarterback
days or just Little League days in general, where you
know you hear a lot of coaches and even my
dad would say, you know, have short term memory. You
know when you come back out, what another you get
a next opportunity. There are no failures. There are just opportunities,
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just missed opportunities. So there are no failures on the field.
We don't consider as an a fair We see it
as a missed opportunity. So and then you know, going
into the next half, what a next an opportunity? You
get to come out of the gate and get through
and out. So that's that's that's what you want to
stand on. So it's about learning from missed opportunities, never
learning from failures because we don't have failures because we
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get to play the game that we love.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The offense had a good first drive, then struggle to
sustain things that had some costly penalties that meant the
defense was out there for a long stretch high altitude.
We did it start to wear on you guys?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I would say that it did.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's of course, it's hard to to really train in
that type of situation in high altitude. You can hydrates
as much as you can, it's it's nothing until you
get in so but it's it's about, you know, learn
to breathe learn to calm yourself down, be in the
moment and not you know, run rapid in your mind.
Oh man, I can't catt some bred what's to play
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call things like that. Just rely on your training at
practice when you know you have those tough Thursday practices
on purpose so that the games can be easier.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So you don't flitch one your only home game. You
got the second one coming up. It's a big challenge
against Detroit. As a defender, how much do you look
forward to trying to show Okay, it's one of the
best offenses in the league, but we can compete with
these guys.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Absolutely. That's that's the love of the NFL. You get
to go against the best of the best. I know,
my former team major mir Giz, I'll be looking forward to,
you know, putting them on the ground and talking talking
a little here and there, but definitely looking forward to
playing against the best of the best. He's one of
the best of the best. They're one of the best
of the best, Jared Goff and what they bring to
the table offensively with their you know, their firepower. I
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believe we have the firepower to match that and cancel
it and go the you know, blow for blow. So
what an opportunity again to show showcase what we can
do on defense, to not just say who we want
to be, but to put it on tape who we
are and the same thing as.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Offense can grat tight your first peck. Appreciate the time, Yes,
I appreciate you. Now let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor,
who spent a couple of minutes with Dave Lapham after
the game.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Once you come to the locker and you talk to
your guys, you find out the mindset that you guys have.
What do you say to them? Yeah, well, obviously they're disappointed,
as they should be. We score three points, so we
have the amount of penalties we had on offense that
you're gonna have a hard time winning against a.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Good team on the road. And so those are things
that are correctable. There's certainly things that we can improve upon,
and I know that we will. I thought our defense
showed us at moments in this game what we needed
against a really good football team. And so again we
just early in the season, we're two and two, like
a lot of teams in this league. How we're gonna
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respond to it?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's I guess the question, the big question. You mentioned
the defense, So I thought the defense did respond. I
thought that, you know, there was a lack of support,
I guess is the best way to put it in
terms of the offense holding onto the football, keeping the football,
scoring points, getting yards and all that sort of thing.
What do you tell your defense in the locker room
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after a game like this.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Keep building on it, keep building on it, and eventually
the turnovers are going to come. The offense is going
to find its identity and create some momentum there to
take some of the pressure off some of those long
drives that they're having to deal with. So again, it's
four games in the season. I have a ton of conferences.
The football team. Again, it's just look around the league.
Who's going to respond to adversity early in the league.
And I feels good about our team as anybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
You've got quarterback jack Jake Browning that has responded to adversity.
I mean, his whole career has been built unresponding to adversity. Really,
he seems to be a guy that, no matter what
the stakes are, how many odds he has to face,
whatever the situation is, he picks himself up in response.
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Do you expect that to happen again?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I mean we walked into it as hard of an
environment as you're gonna face Monday night football on the
road in Denver with with one of the better fronts
in all the league, with the defensive player of the
year and the secondary. It's a tough unit to go against,
and you're gonna have to make some plays. You're gonna
have to find a way as a quarterback to make
some plays, or receivers have got to make some plays.
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Our lines got to hold up and make some plays.
Our back's got to make somebody miss and make some plays.
So just as a unit, we've got to find a
way to be a little more explosive. And again, the
penalties really set us back. We had a lot of
unforced airs that we can't accept.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Remember playing against a defensive front like this when I
was a player, it might not have like just one
pass rusher. They got four. They get four guys that
can rush the pass or at a high level. So
it's not just one guy that you can slide double
triple team or whatever. Every one of these guys gets
in their rush lane, takes control of their rush lane.
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That's even a tougher dynamic to handle, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's tough.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
I mean it's an outstanding front. Again, we got to
do the little things to give ourselves an advantage. We just
didn't do enough.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
That's night.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
What about some of your players that you count on
to give you big performances every week? How did how
did they play? How did Jamar play for you? How
did how did he play for you?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
He's competing, you know, and it's we got to continue
to find a way strust we do the whole week.
We're trying to find ways to get these guys the ball.
The other team knows that they're trying to find ways
to take the ball away from them. So again, it's
something we look at every single week. Some defenses make
it difficult for you and you got to be patient
with it and let those oppertunities come to you. And unfortunately,
we just weren't able to do a lot of great
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things on the field today.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You think this defense had a pretty good handle on
what you were trying to do and how you were
trying to do it. By formation, by personnel, by motion
and all that sort of thing. Do you think that
they had a pretty good handle on what was happening.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I think they've had a pretty good handle on every
team they played against because they got great talent, they
got a veteran de coordinator. At home, they get a
chance to use their crowd and t off on the cadence.
So again, we just got to do better job as
a unit.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So here's how things look in the AFC Nord. The
Steelers are in first at three and one, a game
ahead of the Bengals. Pittsburgh has a bye this week
after beating the Vikings in London. The Ravens are one
and three and have allowed thirty five or more points
in all three losses. Injuries are mounting as well as
Lamar Jackson, Ronnie Stanley, rope On Smith, and Marlon Humphreys
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are among the players dealing with various aches and pains.
The Ravens host Houston this week. Cleveland has also won
in three and the Browns have not topped seventeen points
in any of their games this year. They're in London
this week to face the Vikings, who stayed there after
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Now time for the radio guy's recap. Tough night for
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the Bengals Lap. Let's start with the offense. They've got
to find a way to get something going two years
ago when Joe missed the last seven games, By and large,
they did, and they didn't score as many points as
they did with Joe, but they scored enough to win.
They just have not functioned well the last two weeks
on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, they really haven't. I think the biggest thing that
they've got to do is find a way to run
the football. I mean, as a former alignment, I'd I'd
be embarrassed. I'd be embarrassed myself, my teammates, for everybody involved,
the coaches, it's you know, it's going to be you know,
all hands on deck with respect to it. Uh, everybody's
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got to, you know, realize that it's not good enough.
We got to do something about it, and we gotta
we have the worm has to turn quickly, and the
only way to do it is to get back to
work and you know, putting the time at practice, you know,
maybe think of different ways that they might be able
to gain plan and uh, formation people and with personnel
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groupings and motion and uh, you know, I don't know.
It's a it's a it's so bad. It really is
about as bad as I've seen in a long time
because of the talent level. If they had nobody, if
they didn't have any players, would be like, hey, you know,
this is expected. This is shocking how bad it is
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with the players and coaches and everybody that they've got
that they can't go out and perform at a higher
level than they are.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Jalen Rivers moved into the starting lineup at right guard tonight.
So they've got a rookie starting at left guard and
a rookie starting at right guard. What issues does that create?
And are you in favor of it in the sense
that these are talented guys, Let's get them the experience
so that we've got something down the road.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well, it does create a lot of issues, but they
don't have any choice. I mean, they don't really have
anybody else because guys are nicked up. Guys that have
some play of time, some NFL starts in playing time
are on the bench with injury. But they haven't really
worked together all that much anyway. So it's not like
you're taking a cohesive offensive line and blowing it up
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and saying, you know, this guy's short of that guy.
It's they're injured, but they've never been a unit that was,
you know, one of the top in the league in
terms of going out and executing and performing because they've
been around together for such a long period of time.
So you know, I think if they don't have a
choice but to put Jalen Rivers in there. And it's
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in my mind it's not like he doesn't belong. I
think he belongs in the National FOOTB League. I think
he's a good player. I think he's got a very
bright future. I think that these snaps that he's getting
right now are going to be invaluable to him as
he grows and matures as an offensive lineman in this league.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I really do.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I think he's going to be a really good one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Five catches for Jamar Chase in the game. They didn't
go for a ton of yards. Have we reached the
point where you have to line him up in the
backfield a couple of times. You've got to do some
reverses and jet sweeps, whatever it takes to try to
see if you can get him the ball to make
a big play.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I mean, I like the way you think, and you know,
get the ball in his hands, get him involved. I mean,
he's got to be unbelievably frustrated that this guy is
one of the greatest players in the National Football League,
you know, just a tremendous football player, one of the
best wide receivers. Is not the best that the beanngs
have ever had. I mean they do. They have to
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figure out ways. If it's in the backfield, you know,
getting them some carriers, tossing the football to him, or whatever,
jet sweeps or you know, whatever the case may be. Screens,
receiver screens, middle screens, outside screens. Find ways to give
him the football. I mean, he's too good of a player,
he's too much of a threat. I mean, he is
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the ultimate weapon. Every team in the NFL every single
year is looking for Jamar Chase in the draft or
in free agency, and we got them. We got one.
He's under contract, so we got to figure out a
way to use this dude and don't waste them.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
This is a phenomenal locker room with a lot of leaders,
but the human beings, and when you take back to
back lopsided losses, it's hard not to splinter a little bit.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
How do you avoid that?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
If you're Zach Taylor and you're the captains on this team.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, it's it's natural to start questioning everything. You question yourself,
you question your teammates, You question the head coach. I mean,
what's going on? How can we not perform better than this?
What is what's what's happening? You start to question the coordinators,
You start to question position coach, You question everybody. You
question what you're eating. Your question how you're working out,
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You question what your wife doing. You know, I mean
everything there is the question in your life. You're questioning
it because you know your life's so unsettled, because this
is what you're all about. This is your job, this
is the National Football League, grown men playing a kids game,
and you're getting paid handsomely to do it. I mean,
everybody in the world would want to have your job,
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So you know, you're not going to spit the bid
on it. You're not going to give it up. But
things have to change, and they have to change quickly.
I mean, there are only four games into the season.
They're two and two. As you said, you know, I mean,
they're they're right, they're in the hunt. They just can't
they can't let the hunt get too far away from them,
whether they can't catch up to everybody that's in the hunt.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They didn't turn it over tonight, that's a positive. But
the penalties were killers double digit penalties in the game,
including four in a two minute span in the second
quarter when it looked like they were going to have
the ball at the fourteen yard line. I thought that
really swung the momentum in this game.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
All kinds of penalties to all different types of procedural penalties,
you know, sloppy hands penalties, whether it's holding offense or
defensive holding, whether it's interference, pass interference, getting a little
bit too handsy, too grab you out there. I mean,
you know, when you're struggling and you've only got three
points on the board and less than two hundred yards
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and you have a big plane that comes back because
what you did, not what the defense did to take
it away from which you did to take it away
from yourself. There's no worse feeling in the world than
that when you're I mean, it's like, you know, you
haven't eaten for a week, and all of a sudden,
there's you know, a scrap of food comes your way
and you know you're almost ready to bite it, and
it's gone. You know, it's taken away from you. It's
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just it's a it's a sick feeling, that's for sure.
And these guys, uh, right now. You know I've been
there walking around this locker room looking at these guys faces.
I'm like, yeah, I know, I know. I know what
you feel, and I know what you I know what
you think, and I know what you feel like. I've
been there. The only thing that is going nobody's going
to feel sorry for you, and they shouldn't. Nobody should
feel sorry for you. Everybody's got their own problems. What
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you're going to do is go back to work, grind
it out. That's what got you here. You know you're
good enough to be here. Don't question everything, go out
and play.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I am still very confident that Al Golden is an
excellent defensive coordinator and he's going to do a really
good job in Cincinnati. But maybe I was naive to
think it would happen overnight. It's a work in progress.
They've got a lot of young guys, and boy, they
have to try to make some major strides in a
short period of time with the high scoring Lions coming
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to town next week.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Everybody's good. I mean it's the NFL. There's no schmucks
in there, man, I mean it's everybody. Everybody's got a quarterback.
Everybody's good. Everybody's got players everywhere, the skill player. Everybody's
got lineman. Again, I still think the biggest problem the
area for the Bengals is offensive defensive line. They have
to get that rectified, whether it be you know, trade,
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whether it be free agency, you know, at the end
of this year at some point or next year, or
in the draft or in college free agency. They got
to get more people in here that can play football
at a high level competing.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, I mean every way that you have at your
disposal to continue to improve those two units that's got
to be the priority O line and D line. Now,
it'll help when Jamar Stewart comes back. He looked really
good in the games that he played, but you're going
to have to continue to pour resources into trying to
improve those two units.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Absolutely, And you know, think about how they got some
of the guys they got that are playing at a
good level.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For him, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Brown, you know, he he he was a free agent,
veteran free agent, Cares, veteran free agent.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
They and then the lineman, and you got some rookie
guys and they're at the guard position in the draft
and they're trying to learn from these veteran guys. Veteran
guys are trying to help the younger players. I mean,
right now, it's a it's a mess. I mean, everybody is,
everybody's looking for answers and and nobody's got you know,
clear cut answers. And when you're when you're kind of
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whistling and dark like that, it's a bad place to be.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Well, I'm sorry, Game number one thousand wasn't a great
Bengals victory, but hopefully Game number one thousand and one
will be.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm all for that, Dan, I mean appreciate. The kind
words that you had for me means a lot. You're
a great friend, a great broadcaster. You understand the game
of football. Anything you say about football, you know is
is meaningful and it means a lot to me, that's
for sure. So appreciate you and hopefully the Bengals appreciate
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each other a little bit more, you know, and go
out and try to win some football games for each other.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Up next a home game against the high scoring Detroit Lions.
That's a four to twenty five kick next Sunday at
pay Course Stadium. Now time for this week's fun fact
segment as we get to know a fifth round pick
in this year's draft out of the University of Miami.
Time for some fun facts with rookie offensive linemen Jalen
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Rivers from Jacksonville, Florida. Jalen, we learned on Draft Day
that your mother, father, and stepfather all served in the
Navy for more than thirty years. How did their military
background shape your upbringing?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, I'm an upbringing as anybody would guess, you know,
come from a millerity background, strict household. Everything you learn
in discipline at a very young age since I came
off the womb. But also other than discipline, just hard
work and you know, is dedicated in your all into
something you want. So your goal, you have to reach it.
Nothing to be given to you, obviously, but literally them
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picking me up late at night from the YMCA school,
coming from work, and then them making sure I go
to practice, do all the sports. I was a year
long athlete, basketball, football, track and field, whatever it was.
Take me to sports, making sure I do my homework, showering,
and just repeating that cycle every single day while one
parent was in deployment and deployment for like nine months.
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You grow up quick because you got to be like,
you got to make sure everything's you know, straight, because yeah,
I had siblings in the house wild, but you got
to do things yourself growing up, and you got to
learn like, this is what it takes to get what
you want. So all that combined, you know, strict house
will make you bad. Do this. It's very militant, but
I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
He told me once, you were not allowed to go
out on school nights.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Don't know, I was never you could ask them and
if I did shoot, I don't even know when I did.
But if it was to go to the movies, be
back at a certain time, if I did all my
homework and they trusted me, everything was done, maybe that
was rare. Though.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Is the Army Navy game a huge thing in your household?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Actually it's not. But because we grew up very we
watched a lot of college football, like Miami. My stepdad
was a big Miami fan, so we grew up watching
a lot of Miami Florida, Miami, Florida State, a lot
of them games. But at the same time, when Army
and Navy was playing, my stepdad my mom were kind
of following it, but it wasn't a big thing. Like
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if they were playing, we're watching it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
We're visiting the Jalen Rivers. You're six sex with a
seven foot wingspan. Did you always tower over the other
kids when you were growing up?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh, definitely, up until I want to say, the first
time I saw somebody told to me or like, you know,
same height as me, maybe sixth grade maybe, and that
was my friends, my god brother, Like that's when I'm like, okay,
I was a year younger than them, actually, but we
were the same height. So we played ball together, basketball, football,
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au and all that stuff. So that's the first time
I I saw a lot of people my height are
maybe taller than me. But at the same time, when
I went to school and we were at school, we
were the main ones. It was a handful of us,
but we were tall, and everybody everybody was looking up
those Oh you're so tall. Yeah, so I got that
when I was young.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Did you like that or did it make your self conscious?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
It never really made me self conscious. I mean it
didn't bother me at all. Actually, it's just got tiring
because everybody, even families, you know, parents' kids. It was
my whole life, how tall are you? Oh you're so tall?
How is it? How's the weather up there? That type
of joke. But I mean getting it. It's just like I
know I was tall when I started understanding that I
was tall, and people keep asking me, people keep staring.
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So out in public, people stare or talk to you.
Now if you're wearing back in the when all that
Miami Miami stuff now Bengal stuff. They know I'm a
full player, and they even if I wasn't, if I'm
bigger than everybody, They're just asking and talking and staring,
so I'm used to it now.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And youth football, did parents of kids on the other
team express concern or wonder if you are actually too old?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
No, and this is a true story. You can ask
my parents. My mom had to really bring my birth
certificate everywhere I went au and when I played Little
League in football, I had to bring my birtha everywhere
because everybody made a big deal like I was too old.
Really I was younger than their kids too, because I
was playing eight U TENU when I was a year
young and everybody maybe two years young and everybody, so
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I'm like, here, this is the birth certificate. True. You know,
I was born in Virginia. This is the certificate of
Virginia in the Commonwealth. This is my birth certificate. And
I'm this old. So they still didn't believe it though.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
We're chatting with Jalen Rivers. You attended Oak Leaf High
School in Jacksonville and became one of the top offensive
line recruits in the country. It offers from Alabama, Michigan,
Penn State, you name it. Did you enjoy the attention
or did you get tired of it?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
People that know me, they know I don't like attention.
I don't like the spotlight, but I've I'm used to
it now because even though I didn't like it, I
formed a you know, to I guess, embrace it at
one point in time because I'm I'm getting interviewed again.
Oh you know, everybody's like, you know, calling me up
to the office. My teachers like, hey, so and so,
coach is here, this school is here to see you.
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So I mean, it was very fun to travel and
visit and do camps and all that, but at one point,
I'm like, I'm tired of this because I hate the attention.
Everybody's just like at school, like, oh my god, you
got offered today, and it's like yeah, but me mean,
but you know, I love I wouldn't trade it, like
I said, for anything, but I don't really like the attentioner.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You ultimately chose the University of Miami. Why the you?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
It's funny because at one point it wasn't Miami wasn't
even consideration because they weren't recruiting me as hard. And
then they picked it back up towards some I want
to say, my end of my sophomore at first my
early junior year, but they just continue recruiting me hard,
and just like because at first I was about to
pick Georgia. I was about I was just close to
going to Georgia and then but Miami just kept recruiting me,
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Hey can you come to this game? Hey can you
come this visit? And I kept going and you just
feel that family atmosphere. And of course the coaches that
were recruited me, some of them were still there when
I got there, but some of them weren't. But I
just still felt that I wasn't going because a coach,
but I just ever some went to you urse Miami
a visit. I was like, I just feel like family,
you know, oriented it just it felt like a family
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atmosphere and I wanted to play it the U And
then you know it was close to home too, so
that played a factor. You know, it was Miami, Florida, Georgia,
but but Miami just stole it.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
The Bangals selected you in the fifth round of this
year's draft. Described your draft weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I was anxious because you know, during that draft, you
don't know when you're gonna get picked. You might have
an idea, your agent's like, oh maybe this round and
this round, but it's really a waiting game. But I
want to say I threw it was I had like
something on Friday where family just came over. During that
second day, second and third round, they came over and
we had like a smaller barbecue, but you know, I
was like, I might be I'm probably day three. So
(33:52):
but Saturday, everybody came back and we threw something. And
then it's just a waiting game. I just tried to
get my mind off everything, and you know, we had
some food food. I actually cooked mac and cheese because
I wanted to get my mind off of everything. But
I didn't want to wait, so I made mac and
cheese just you know, just with family. And then when
the fourth round started, you know, fifth round, I was
just just waiting, waiting, waiting, talking to my friend's family.
(34:17):
Then my name gets called or I get that call Cincinnati, Ohio,
and then I answered it is coach Taylor and he's
just talking and he's like, hey, we're gonna pick you
you know next. I'm like, oh my god, did I really?
I was speechless, but you know, I was just like
feel with gratitude at the time. And then after that call,
family has just recorded me. You know, I hate attention.
(34:37):
I get my hat. Then when they called my name
on the screen or put my name on the screen,
put my hat on. Just dap everybody up, hug everybody,
and then we just partied. You know, we we ate.
I didn't eat really that whole morning. I slept horrible
that night before because I was just my mind was
just I'm like, I need to know where I'm going
with her when I'm getting picked. But it was anxious,
but it was fun.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Your current Bank teammate Matt Lee, played with you for
one year at Miami. He said the following of everyone
I've played with, Jalen is one of the highest character
dudes ever. What does being a high character dude mean?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Do you? It means I come in every day with
a positive attitude. I never if I have a bad day,
I'm not really gonna show it because I'm here for
you know, I want to make everybody around me better.
So if I come in you know, drowsy or you know,
with low energy, then it's not making everybody around me better.
It's not making me better. So having a high character
just doing things the right way how I was raised,
(35:35):
not letting anything around me, any person around me, change me.
And just I mean just being me. I mean, I
don't really want to be fake or anything like. I
just be me and if somebody likes me, I just
I just had a good opportunity when I was at
Miami or my whole life, I just been me. I
just like making people around me better. And it's just
having a positive attitude, so having a high character. Everything
(35:56):
I do on the field, I'm gonna do it off
the field too, you know, just being the the person
my mother raised me, my parents raised me to be.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
You shared with me previously that you are into cooking,
and you mentioned in this interview that you made mac
and cheese during the draft. How into it do you
watch cooking shows? Do you check out Cookbucks or recipes?
How deeply are you into cooking?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well, my biological dad, he's a chef. He caters his
own catering business. So I never really cooked growing up
because I really didn't have the time. I was too
involved with sports class, you know, a year a long athlete,
doing school, I did not want to cook anything, actually
do anything else fro on my plate. So I want
to say, I just wanted to find out how to
be outside of football, and then I just started going
(36:38):
you know to visit my dad a lot more, and
then you know, he started teaching me recipes helped him
during catering events. I want to learn how to make
this because I want to make food. I don't want
to keep wasting my money buying food. So yeah, I
learned I can make really chicken, palm, any type of
post obviously braised ribs, mac and cheese, you know, shoot,
name it stuff, salmon.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I'm salivating. Who is your all time favorite athlete
in any sport?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
I want to say Kobe Bryant just obviously he's a
legend on the court, but at the same time, what
he's done for the community too. And then just being
from Miami, I want to say also, or not from Miami,
but going to Miami. Ray Lewis too. You know, growing up,
my stepdad loved ray Lewis, so I watched him every
(37:29):
single time we watched the NFL Baltimore Ravens, watched clips
of him at Miami. You know, I love what he does.
He brings that energy, and just I love being around
people that just bring that energy. You just love the
game of football. So growing up, we watched a lot
of him, and then he's came back and taught to
Miami when I was at Miami a couple of years ago.
And great person.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
All right, final fun fact for Jalen Rivers. This one's
kind of deep. If you could meet anyone in history,
living or deceased, who would that person be.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'm just say family, cause it's like not really anybody,
any celebrity, but like just I'm a big family god.
So like my grandpa that passed away, Like I feel
like since I would move to Florida with my mom
and my stepdad, my dad was still in Virginia. That's
my dad's dad, and I really didn't have an opportunity
to form that bond really but when I lived in
Virginia or when I went back to Virginia, we saw
(38:21):
each other every time I went, but like I didn't
really form that grandson and grandfather bond. And every time,
you know, I went back, it was only for like
a couple hours. So and then he passed away when
I was a freshman in high school. So it's like,
you know, when that when he passed, I was like, dang,
but I wish he was still alive, so I can
you know, form that bond and you know, he would
love to see you know where I was. Even with
(38:43):
my mom's dad too. He passed away when I was
when I was about six seven. So yeah, I wish
my grandparents still alive so I can have this. They
can be on this ride with me.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
They would both be very proud. I can promise you
that jailing this has been great and I appreciate your time.
I'm best have left the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Appreciate you have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Here's an invitation to join Dave Lapham and me for
the Bengals Game Plan Show this Wednesday night at the
Holy Grail. Banks will be there from six to eight
and our scheduled guest in the first hour of the
show is linebacker Logan Wilson. That's going to do it
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Okay,
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