September 11, 2025 • 39 mins
The Bengals get set to Open In Orange against Jacksonville in the first home game of the year. Dan Hoard’s guests include Trey Hendrickson, this week’s “Ruler of the Jungle” Sam Hubbard and the radio voice of the Jaguars Frank Frangie.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading The
Bengals Booth Podcast. The I've Got My Spine, I've Got
My Orange Crush addition, as the Bengals get set to
open in Orange as they face Jacksonville in the first
home game of the year. Coming up, I'll go one
on one with Trey Hendrickson and also chat with his
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friend and former teammates Sam Hubbard this week's Ruler of
the Jungle. Then, in our No The Faux segment, we'll
get the low down on the one to Oh Jaguars
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since the anniversary of a broadcasting masterpiece. Tuesday marked the
sixtieth anniversary of what I consider to be the greatest
work by a sports broadcaster of all time. It was
Vin Scully's radio broadcast of a Sandy Kofax perfect game.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Three times in his sensational career, as Sandy Kofax walked
out to the mound to pitch a fateful ninth where
he turned in a no hitter. But tonight September ninth,
nineteen hundred and sixty five, he made the toughest walk
of his career. I'm sure, because through eight innings he
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has pitched a perfect game.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Note that Vin used the words perfect game. There's no
such thing as a broadcaster's jinx. Call of the ninth
inning was filled with vivid descriptions that perfectly captured the drama.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And you can almost taste the freshure. Now twenty nine
thousand people in the ballpark and a million butterflies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And now here's Vin's call of the final.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Out, two and two, the Harvey Keane one strike away,
Sandy into his wind up. Here's the pitch.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Swung on in this the perfect game.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Scully did not speak for thirty eight seconds, he let
the roar of the crowd serve as his color commentator,
and when he finally did return to the mic, he
put the cherry on top of the Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
On the scoreboard and right field. It is nine forty
six pm in the City of the Angels, Los Angeles, California,
and a crowd of twenty nine thirty nine just sitting
in to see the only pitcher in baseball history to
herald four no hit, no run games. He has done
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it four straight years, and now he capped it on
his fourth no hitter. He made it up perfect games,
and Sandy Kopax, whose name will always remind you of strikeouts,
did it with a flourish. He struck out the last
six consecutive batteries. So when he wrote his name in
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capital letters in the record books, that K stands out
even more than the oufax.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That K stands out even more than the oufax. What
an incredible summary. I've always maintained that if we were
there that night to write a story about the game,
and had several hours to choose every word carefully, our
stories would not compare to what the Dodgers broadcaster ad
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libbed well brought casting it live like Sandy Kofax that night.
Vin Scully was perfect. If you would like to hear
the entire ninth inning, just search for Vin Scully, Sandy Kofax.
You'll see a link on MLB dot com and YouTube.
Now let's get to my first guest. First and ten
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Browns at their own twenty five thrash goes in motion.
Placo fakes a handoff and he gets sacked night knocked
down by Trey Hendrickson, who led the NFL with seventeen
and a half of them a year ago, and he's
got his first one in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Seventeen and a half two years in a row, thirty
five two year total. He is a premier pass rushery.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
After a lengthy contract negotiation, the Bengals, an all pro
edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson, agreed to erase this season thirteen
days before the season opener. That led to speculation that
Trey would be on a quote unquote pitch count in
Week one. That did not turn out to be the case.
Trey played the most snaps of any Bengals defensive lineman
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and played them well. He's PFF's ninth highest graded Edge
player after one week and for what it's worth, Shamar
Stewart is seventh. I talked to Trey about his performance,
Schamar's performance and why he doesn't wear gloves. Trey, after
having just a few training camp practices, you played fifty
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seven snaps in the opener, You had eight quarterback pressures.
You had a huge impact on the game. Al Golden said,
that's an amazing human being to be able to do that.
Were you essentially telling the coaches to leave you out there?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It was something that the you know, game dictated. Every
drive is important. I think every drive is important in
every game, but specifically we were in must win situations
if we want to go where we want to go.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
This season, big start being in division.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And on the road. So, you know, it was something
that I love this team. I've said that this whole offseason.
I had great work at the d one point of
Vidro with Chase he was my trainer there, and then
coming here I got to work out with Pat at
Black Cheap and then obviously finishing the job with Joey
in House. So I had a great offseason something I
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was very proud of. I know my wife was very
proud of the way I worked as well. So considering
all those things and working out and then getting a
win and me having to play fifty seven snaps, I
do it again.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The defense held Cleveland to sixteen points, you got two takeaways.
What did the defense do best in the win?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I think we're just creating an identity of what kind
of brand of football we're going to play. And we're
far from where we want to be. There's a lot
on film that we have to get corrected. But anytime
you're learning with a win, that's a good thing. In
the National Football League, we're.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Visiting the Trey Hendrickson throughout training camp, you could be
seen constantly giving pointers to Shamar Stewart. What'd you think
of his debut?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know, I think he's got an exceptional amount of talent.
I think that's what the guys in this building obviously
have seen in the recruiting process of bringing him to
be a part of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
So the potential is there.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Jerry's doing a good job of tapping that potential and
everything that it comes with, and as he continues to
learn of what our brand of football is, I know
his production will improve.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Jerry coaches hard.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Do you like it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I think Jerry's a great coach. His reputation around the
league speaks volumes. Great person, great coach, fun to work with.
He is an intelligent mind when it comes to run schemes,
how to break them down, how to make it identifiable,
to slow the game down. So for me as a player,
I've been with three different defensive line coaches, and you know,
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all of them in their own rights, have been elite.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great story about how you, during
the period where you were watching practice but not taking part,
reached out to Jerry and said, let's meet every morning
at five thirty am so you could learn basically what
he was working on with the defensive line. Five thirty
am meetings with the coach.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Well, you know it was.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It was an interesting time for me and I wanted
to do more. So the more I would be able
to learn the defense. Obviously I could teach from in
that situation I was in, so I could actually give
to the guys and be speaking the same language and
being all on the same page, not just you know,
out there just to be out there, you know, like
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having a purpose. While I was out there, all of us,
like I said, collectively speaking the same language. So it
was important to me to learn this defense. You know,
didn't know what the future held, but I wanted to
lean in to the qualities that my wife and I carry,
which is when we're all in, we're all.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
In, you know.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And that's something that I have made clear since the
beginning of this off season is that I love the
Cincinnati Bengals and I want to.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Be all in for them, no matter what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Do you always get up that early or did you
do it specifically in order to meet with Jerry before
he had other stuff to do.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, meetings were happening, you know, pretty early here during
camp because there was a quick turnaround for practice for
training camp, so there was a limited amount of time
because obviously when my son was awake in the afternoon
when we all went home, I wanted to spend a
little bit of time with him, not meet after so alarm.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Clock getting a little early. You know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
We're in the National Football League, you know, I needed
to catch up for months of time away, and I
think we did a great job, the professional professionalism of
Jerry to do that for me. During the circumstances, and also,
you know there was a mutual respect there where we
all wanted.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
To get better and I could help in any way
I could try.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You're a four time Pro bowler, you were a first
team All Pro member, last year, runner up for NF
Defensive Player of the Year, NFL sacks leader. It's a
heck of a list. What's next? What are you determined
to do going forward?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I want to be the best Trey Hendrickson I can be,
and all those accolades aside.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I want to glorify the Lord with my play.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
God has been so gracious to me with the game
of football and my walk personally from high school, college
in the NFL and now being in my ninth year
in the NFL. These are the things I talked about
with my dad when I was six years old, like
every six year old talks about, and having a son.
Now myself puts it in perspective. You know, this is
also a long offseason to spend time with family and reflect.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I know I have a lot of work to continue
to do.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I know I have a lot of gas in the
tank and tread on the tires, so I'm excited for
the future. But I've never played for the accolades. I
never played for the statistics. I want to help my
team win. I want to play as hard as I
can and let the trips fall where they may. And
I know it's been five years of saying that, it
is the truth, and I have high spectations for myself
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because of the way I work and the way I
conduct myself.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
And you know, but that's something that every.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Week, giving it your all with the win in mind
and helping the team the statistics or the byproduct.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The ruler of the jungle this week is Sam Hubbard,
your teammate, your former running mate, is the two defensive ends.
What did you respect about Sam when you two guys
played together.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
There's so many things I could say what I respect
about him, but I think, you know, he embodied what
being a Bengal was on and off the field, and
I think he was a leader through and through, you know,
first in line, always an example of what it looked
like to be a football player, give a one hundred
percent effort all the time, and his character was second
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to none. You know, he was a guy that you
could always rely on, always trust, knew what to do
and did it to a high level, and I have
a tremendous amount of respect for him and the friendship
I'm going to have with him for years to come
because of the things he taught me as a player
and obviously hopefully the things I taught him.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He told me you reached out and asked him to
look at the tape, give you some pointers after week one?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Will he?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You know, I think that football will always be a
part of his life. It'll always be a part of
my life. There's always a day where we won't be
able to play, and whether that's ye're one for some
guys or you're fifteen for other guys, there's a day
where we take off the pads and you know, sometimes
in life it comes sooner than later. And you know,
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for him to handle it with the amount of like
I respect the way he handled it and everything that
he has and a tremendous life looking forward to ahead
of him.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
But yeah, it's a it's.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
A cool thing, you know that for him to you know,
we talk ball, and we will always talk ball, and
I always want his opinion because he gave it to
me on Monday mornings after the game, we would talk
about football.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
So he's a He's a part of.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
The Cincinnati Bengals culture that we're going to continue on here.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Another teammate and friend is Josepho's. He had an awesome
response when I asked about you during your contract impass.
Here's what he said. The defense needs him. You feel
his presence when he's out there. Ask any offensive lineman
in the league. When trade lines up in front of
you with his tinted face, mask, no gloves, long sleeves
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and tights, you know you've got war the whole game.
What's your reaction to that quote.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I love Joseph, He's been He was my first rookie
as a VET, you know, not to say that being
year four in New Orleans was an a vet, but
I came here for a purpose, and obviously he was
the first defensive end that I was able to inherit
a meaning was drafted to us in our room also
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Cam sample, but to take him under my wing in
some ways like Cam Jordan took me under his wing
and kind of help him along the way. Now he
has to become who he wants to be, and for
him to talk about me like that is special, And
you know, I hope someday you know there's someone that
will look up to him the way you know I
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look up to Cam and hopefully he looks up to me.
So you know, that's just continuing the legacy and of
what football is. It's it's not keep all your secrets
and hold them tight to your chest. It's it's a
giving sport. We have a common goal to win. We're
all wearing the same uniform for this season and continuing forward.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
It's a special thing.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So that's a tremendous respect for him and he's a
he's a friend for life too.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
A follow up to that quote, why no gloves.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
It's just a toughness thing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You know after a while, Like in New Orleans they
got sweaty, and Fau they got sweaty, and you know,
after a while it was like, man, why you know,
so being a part of you know, there's some guys
that don't wear gloves and you always know that those
guys are they got a little something to him.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Final question, and the only contract related question now that
you're playing again, is the bitterness gone? How are you
feeling mentally?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You know, it's one one game in a time mentality,
doing what's best for the twenty twenty five Bengals, and
for that, I will give everything I've got. And you
know it's something that I don't even think about what's uncontrollable.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I can only control what's controllable.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
And that's how we handle ourselves in our home and
in our family and how I was raised. So what's
in my control is going out there on Sundays and
giving it my all.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Appreciate you so much, thanks for the time, best of
luck this week.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Trey has one of four players credited with eight pressures
in Week one to share the NFL lead. Miles Garrett
had two sacks against the Bengals, but the old line
held him to five pressures. For the second straight year,
the Bengals will open in orange, but in addition to
wearing that color, Zach Taylor has another request for any
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of you going to the game.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I know how loud we're going to be, and so
let's do it early. Let's show him right out the gate.
I think when Sam Hubbard is up there is the
ruler of the jungle. Every seat is packed, and I'd
love to look up just for I'm just asking for
one game, a ten minute sacrifice from the parking lot,
and so that that might just mean getting up ten minutes,
ten minutes earlier and getting to the stadium ten minutes
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earlier than you normally would. And so do whatever you
want of those extra ten and then that extra ten
getting in the stadium. And so when when Sam's the ruler,
I'm kind of looking up at that escalator that's to
my right, and it's it's like, you know, and maybe
people just appease me and stand at the bottom. So
I can't see as he's up there, but I would
love to hear that just week one. The rest of them,
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you can you can tell, get a little extra longer.
But I think for this first one to be awesome,
just to send the message to the team, we got
to do our best to start to to zero. And
for all the great things that we want to do
this year, it starts with playing great at home. And
that's a collective effort from our players, our coaches, our
fan base. And so I'm excited to set off twenty
twenty five the right way at home and Orange were
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oranged out, you know, and the gat and I goes
to be fired up.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So finish that last beverige and Burger at your tailgate
lot and be in your seat ready to belt out
the Hooday chant when it's led by my next guest,
The ruler of the Jungle this week proudly wore the
orange and black for his hometown team for seven years.
I am speaking of the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. Sam,
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great to see you. Here's my first question. What did
you do on your first NFL Sunday in retirement?
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Dan, Good to see you. Uh yeah, it was a
weird feeling.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
I was.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
I was out of town. I was on a fishing
trip in Yellowstone, but I was locked in. I was
in the airport, but locked in on my phone watching
the game. Uh play by play it was. I was
glad they game on with the wind. You know, it's
tough to always play in Cleveland again. That win first
week is so huge to set up the season. I
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was pumped for him.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm sure you're gonna miss game day. But what about
training camp? Did you miscamp up?
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
You know, I've had August this training camp for the
last I don't even know, fifteen twenty years, and having
that month back to myself was different for sure. I
definitely was doing other activities outside of training camp, but
I definitely missed the you know, the time you spend
with your teammates that August training camp, you really develop
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who you're going to be as a team. You kind
of get closer, develop those relationships. And I was texting
some guys seeing what was going on, what was the
latest developments. You know, it's it's fun chatter. And just
felt a little out of the loop, but that's the
natural the way of things.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I am sure you're up to speed on Week
one now. Road wins in the AFC North are prized commodity.
What did you think about Cincinnati's victory in Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Yeah, it's huge that, Like you said, those AFC North
winds are massive for setting you up for the postseason.
My career, of the last several years, we've had trouble
winning in Cleveland. It's a tough place to play, the grass,
the crowd, that defense is you know, it's it's a
tough win and I'm glad they pulled it off, setting
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themselves up to to be top of the vision and
you know, fight to stay at top it as the
season goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
When you win a game like that and you didn't
play your best, are you fine with it. I'm sure
immediately after the victory you are. But as the days
go by, do you still feel good about it?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Well, when you can win those games that are close.
You know, last year we had a lot of those
games and we didn't win them, And that's all that
matters is getting those wins and learning from them. And
I'll tell you, you do a lot better in the
long run winning close games like that and learning from
them than you do, you know, having losing all those.
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You know, I'm sure that with the way that they played,
they're very motivated on fixing their mistakes. I know several
guys are, you know, not happy with a one to
oh start with that type of win, So I'm sure
they're building on it and excited about the momentum and
first home game, perfect place to put on their best performance.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
One thing they are definitely happy about was the run defense.
In Week one, Cleveland ran it twenty four times, no
runs longer than five yards. They averaged two yards per carry.
How closely does stopping the run like that correlate to victory?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Very closely, especially on the road. You know, I saw
a lot of guys taking on blocks, shedding blocks, block
destruction making tackles usually early in the season. Early in
the weeks, you see a lot of mistackles as people
get back into the swing of things. I think they
did a great job. Obviously, we're working really hard in
camp on tackling, putting an emphasis on it, and it
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showed up. And if you can have those fundamentals and
really build your foundation on stopping the run early in
the season, it becomes a standard and I think that
sets them up well. That's a very big positive.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
When you went to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one,
Al Golden was the Bengals linebackers coach. What was your
reaction when he came back to be the DC.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Yeah, I know Il really well. I know how much
he loves football, how intense he is in his preparation.
We always talk about how early he gets there and
all his coffee, and you know how much football means
to him. And I think that resonates to the defense,
especially with these young guys coming from college. You know,
he had experience in college and knows how to develop guys.
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And I thought it was a great fit. Knowing Cincinnati,
knowing you know, the coaching staff, a lot of the
players too. I was excited about the fit, and obviously
they're off to a great start.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You and Trey Hendrickson formed a dynamic duo at defensive end.
What do you respect most about Trey?
Speaker 9 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
I have a lot of respect for play obviously, Trey.
Obviously we have grown very close over the years, had
a lot of big moments, a lot of big wins together.
I really respect his intensity, his work ethic. He's one
of the most intense guys you'll find on the football field,
and that translates to his play, and you know, he's
always looking to get better. He texted me after the
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game coach me up, and I thought that was funny.
You know, he's had a great forty pass rush win
or something like that, and he was still focused on
you know, he's got to improve, He's got to get better.
So that's just the relentless mindset that I think makes
him great.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Will you coach him up?
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Did you watch the tape?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I watched it. I don't know if he needs much
coaching for me, but sometimes it's good for a second
set of eyes just to bounce ideas off of. So
I'm always there for that for anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sam, you got to know Joe Burrow as an eighteen
year old college freshman, and you two guys have been
fast friends ever since. When did you start to think
that Joe Burrow could be one of the best quarterbacks
to do it?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know, it's an evolution, I think that. You know,
when the quarterback battle was going on at Ohio State,
it dragged on very long because Joe simply wouldn't allow
a clear decision. He was fighting constantly, you know, making
his case. And you know, Dwayne Haskins was a great
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player and came in for the Michigan game the year
before because Joe's hand was broken, and you know, it
kind of set him back, but he fought tooth and
nail and I just earned so much respect for him
during that quarterback battle. And obviously I went to the
NFL and he went to LSUS, so we never got
to play together. But watching him from Afar, you know,
I was campaigning for him to come to the Bengals,
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to Zach to Joe, trying to broker that relationship just
as a friend, knowing how much it'd mean to us,
and thankfully it all worked out.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Good recruiting on your part. I remember that National semifinal
game against Oklahoma, where he threw seven touchdown passes in
the first half, and at that point it was likely
that the Bengals were going to have the first pick
in the draft. Were you as excited watching that LSU
Oklahoma game as I was.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
No.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I watched every one of his college games with some
of my our Ohio state friends and we just were
you know, in all I like, I think the whole
country was in you know, his performance in big stages,
his growth from his I think his red shirt junior
year to his red shirt senior year, but all throughout
the toughness he showed. I think it took a lot
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of people by surprise and gained a lot of Joe
Burrow fans. But we had a close, a close game
to Miami late in that year where we could have
beaten them in double overtime and lost the first pick.
I'm just glad it worked out and we were although
it was a tough year too, you know, in twenty
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nineteen to go two and fourteen and paid off getting
that first overall pick to get our.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Guy Sam After you fire up the fans as the
ruler of the jungle. This Sunday, the Bengals will host
the Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off an impressive Week one win
over Carolina. What are some keys to victory for the
Bengals this Sunday.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah, I think it's starting fast, you know. I think
that this crowd is going to be incredible open an Orange.
There's gonna be a lot of excitement, a lot of tailgating.
I'll hopefully provide some juice and energy at the start.
But you know, we've had a lot of home openers
where we didn't start fast. I remember playing Jacksonville Week
four on Thursday night in twenty twenty one and we're
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down fourteen to nothing at half, and that just makes
it harder. But if you can get that lead early,
get the crowd behind you, get that crowd noise going,
start getting those pass rushers to get a good get off.
With that silent count and a little chaos, I think
they can really establish a strong foundation to winning at home.
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That can be the key to getting where they want
to be at the end of the year. So I
think it's just starting fast and not letting any adversity
that arises that will for sure arise shake these new
players and it'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You're doing phenomenal work in the community with the Sam
Hubbard Foundation. What do you have going on this time
of year and how can people help?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Yeah, this time of year, schools back in session. Our
main program, Hubbard's Cupboards, is grown by fifteen schools this year.
This school year that just started, We're in thirty six
local schools providing resources for confidence and school supplies, high
gene items, healthy snacks and if you're interested in learning more,
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check it out on our website Sam Hubbard Foundation dot com.
And I'm excited to be still in this community here
in Cincinnati doing things like this and staying involved.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We are excited to see you on the stage as
the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday. I appreciate your
time and enjoy the season as a fan for the
first time in a long time.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Thanks Dan, always a pleasure see you there.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Sam gave us some keys to victory. The Bengals are
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official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for this
week's Know the Faux segment. After a dreadful season that
ended with a four and thirteen record, the Jacksonville Jaguars
cleaned house, firing their GM and head coach. The new
GM is thirty five year old James Gladstone, the youngest
GM in the NFL. The new head coach is thirty
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nine year old Liam Cohen, among the five youngest head
coaches in the NFL, and the team's new vice president
of football Operations is Hall of Fame offensive lineman Tony Bisselli.
The new trio is off to a good start after
a twenty six to ten Week one win over Carolina.
Frank Frangie is the voice of the Jaguars and joined
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Dave Lapham and me this week on the Bengals Game
Plan Show.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's been a tough go around here, as you guys know,
and it was a good start, and even in the
offseason it felt like it might be that way. Tony
Bucelli is running things around here now. The new regime
seems to be all pulling in the same direction, which
we haven't maybe always had. So yeah, it was a
good start. It was just it was one game, but
I think it felt pretty good around here. I think
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your assessment's dead.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
On what did the Jaguars do best? In your opinion
when you were watching the game live, What did they
do that kind of made you perk up in the
in your in the broadcast booth and take notice, or
after the game when you had time to look at
it again in review tape of it, what might have
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jumped out at you?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Okay, But I think the main thing is they said
they were going to run the ball, and they said
they were going to be a physical So, you know, we.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Have a new regime.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You never really know, right, you know, you have an
idea what they want to be and what they hope
they'll be. But Liam Cohen ran the ball as the
coordinator in Tampa last year, and I think one of
the things that helped him really sort of unlock some
things in Baker Mayfield is he got Bucky Irving in
that running game going, and I think that's one of
the things that made him attractive to Jacksonville. Well, he
got here and they said, listen, we're going to run
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the football.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
We're going to we have to be a physical football team.
And they did that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They stuck to the run. They ran for two hundred yards.
You know, the running the teams that are committed to
the run. Everybody could run on first and ten, but
he's still willing to run on second and nine, right
or second and eight. And I think they were so.
I think the commitment to the run traves ETN had
the big game rushing. The team rushed for two hundred yards.
They were more physical than this team's been in a while.
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I think there's one thing that jumped off the page
and I think we were all kind of excited about
is they said they were going to run the football and.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
They did right.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
My son is a student at the University of Colorado,
so I watched a lot of Travis Hunter last year
and it was an amazing show on both sides of
the ball. In Week one, most the offense, just a
few snaps on defense. I heard that Liam Cohen apparently
said earlier today he'll play more defense this week. How
has he looked, I mean, has he been as impressive
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on the practice field as he was for the Buffaloes
last year.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know, damn.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
The thing is he's never tired wherever.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I don't even where he is right now, but wherever
he is, he's not tired.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
He's never tired.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That's the amazing thing about him. And I'll say this, Yeah,
he's look good in practice. He's got to learn the offense.
He's got to learn defense. But he can play all
day long. And if your son watched him, you probably
watched him.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
He's got the endurance. What he's got to do is
learn the offense and the defense. Last week he played
forty two plays on offense and six on defense. I
think this week the plan is to play more on defensive.
Liam said for a couple of reasons. Number one, he
got the first game under his belt. Right now, he's
got the feel of playing on both sides of the
ball and knowing both game plans. And he did that
one time, so this will be the second time he's
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done that.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
The other thing is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He's playing Joe Burrow. Okay, with all apologies to Bryce Young,
this week, he's playing Joe Burrow. When he's playing those
receivers so I think it's all hands on deck. Defensively,
I don't know that it's going to be. Let's say
there's sixty offensive plays and sixty defense. I don't know
that he's going to play forty and forty, but I'll
bet you he plays twenty to twenty five on defense,
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would be my guest this week, and forty or so
on offense. If I was guessing, I think that's where
it would be.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
But yeah, he's been very impressive.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He's a great kid, hard worker, gained the respect of
his teammates really right out of the gate, and he's
going to be some player.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
He really is.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
What other players on the Jacksonville Jaguars have impressed you.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I would say Travis Etn had the big game. You know,
people have been trying to chase off TRAVIS'STN forever. Right,
He's the first round draft pick. He was just okay
for some of those years, so they thought, I think
Bigsby might beat him out. He's more of a downhill runner.
Then they drafted to running backs, they drafted Basil Tutons,
they drafted le Quinn Allen, and everybody thought Travis might
be say everybody, many thought Travis might be the forgotten man. Well,
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he took that personally.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
He said, okay, okay's still my job.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
And he had the big game one hundred and forty
plus last week, so he certainly looked good. And I
think one of the reasons is they blocked. They brought
in Robert Hainsey to be their center. He's a physical player.
They brought in Patrick McCarey from the Ravens to be
the right guard.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
He's a physical player. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Was always athletics, but I thought he had a little
more lead in his rear end this time than I've
seen in the past. So the running game Travis CTN
stood out. And I'll say this, Foyer Lucan had a
great game. He was kind of playing out of position.
He's always led the team in tackles. He's often led
the league at tackles.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Last year they moved him to from the mic to.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
The will because they thought he'd played space better, and
it was a mistake. He's back at the mike linebacker spot.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
He was the player.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
He was the AFC Player of the Week defensively this week,
and he earned that with ten tackles and a diving interception.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I would say a Lucon.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
On the defensive side the middle linebacker, and travisse Etn
on the offensive side who had a really big game.
Those two guys are attorneyes that were real pleased with
how they played.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
There are a lot of high draft picks on the
defensive line. Frank the number one overall pick from a
few years back, Trayvon Walker the seventh pick in the
draft not too long ago, Josh heinz Allen many years ago,
Eric Armstead was the seventeenth pick in the draft. Remains
a giant up front. How good is that group? Because
the Cleveland Browns front gave Cincinnati a lot of trouble last.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Week and the ends are very good.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I would say that Josh heines Allen and Trayvon Walker
are going to continue to be good players.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
Two years ago, Josh.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Had seventeen and a half sacks and Trayvon had ten.
Last year, Treyvon had ten. Josh didnt that as good
a year, but the ends are good.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
They're good there.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Duan smooth Is the backup end, had two sacks last
week or a sacond and a half. They went and
got Emmanuel ogg go to be a backup end, so
I think they're okay outside. I would say that the
jury is still out on the tackles. Eric Armistead did
not practice much. He was hurt too much a camp
played last week. I'm not sure he played, made a
lot of splash plays. De Von Hamilton, the nose guard,
played okay last week. They added two guys, Austin Johnson
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from Buffalo and Colin Saunders from from New Orleans. I
think they're just okay at tackle. I think if you
if you try to identify a concern on the football
team going into the season coming out of camp, it
would be defensive tackle. I'm not sure they fixed that.
It'll be interesting to see. So I think the ends
are pretty good and and I think they like where
they are with their ends. They'd probably like to see
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the tackles flash a little bit more. I think I would,
And I think that's probably where they are as well.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
How how big a focus is ball security with the
coaching staff during the course of practice.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. Any team that runs
the ball and it's sound like a broken record here,
guys that I apologize, but we haven't done that around here,
right any team it's that committed to running the ball.
Better take care of the ball. You know, if you
think if you're a running team, the game's going to
be a little shorter, right, You're not as likely to
come from behind, And I think you better care of
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the ball.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
Again, they've played one game.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
That doesn't mean Trevor won't throw it forty five times
on Sunday in Cincinnati. But I think that's who they
want to be. You always want to establish your identity,
and I think that's who they want to be. So
they've got to take care of the ball, and Trevor's
got to take better care of the ball. He would
tell you that Trevor's got to. Trevor Lawrence is a
really good kid and he's going to be a very
good player in this league. There's no doubt in my mind.
I think he's made progress, but the one thing he's
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got to do is take care of the ball. I
think Trevor was so successful in college sticking balls in
there where you probably shouldn't have been able to. But
his receivers were so good and his arm is so
good that he got some balls in it and.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Maybe you shouldn't. You shouldn't have been able to write.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And you have to learn and you get in this
league and didn't like that. You get in this league.
That cornerback from wake Forest who couldn't quite get there
is now a cornerback from the Denver Broncos who's going
to get there right. And I think that he had
to learn that and I think he's starting to. So, Yes,
small security is a big deal. Turnovers or the kiss
of dead. By the way, we were the worst team
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in the league last year in takeaways. The Jagguars had
nine takeaways all last year. The defense got them nine
turnovers all last year. They harready got three in the
first game. They had three takeaways for a team that's
a third of what they did in the entire season.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
So that's certainly a point of emphasis with his defense
as well.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Three years ago, Jacksonville made the playoffs and won a
playoff game, one of the great comebacks in football history,
twenty seven zip to beat the Chargers. They still had
a winning record the following year and Trevor Lawrence got
hurt late in the season or they might have made
the playoffs again. And then last year the bottom fell
out for whatever reason. Four wins all year. What happened.
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Why did they fall off that coup last year?
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Boy, then that is the question.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm still horse from that comeback three years ago, so
I remember it well. One of the fun moments we've
all had around here.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
You know what the question you just asked is is.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
The bizarre one? They had the really good year under
Doug Peterson his first year here the playoffs, They won
the playoff game, they went they may be Elite eight
if you will, of the NFL, and then lost to
obviously a very good Chiefs team.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
And they were very good that year.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The next year they started eight and three and it
looked like they were It looked like they were pretty good. Now,
if you remember the game against the Bengals here, Christian
Kirk got hurt. Okay, in that game when he got her.
There were eight and three at the time, and that's
the game he got hurt, and that started the spiral down.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
They finished one in five. One in five started with
that game against the Bengals and never picked up the pieces.
I thought last year they kind of would resurrect that,
but they just never got it going. Doug Peterson's a
wonderful man. I think he's a very good football coach,
but I'm not sure he and the in the GM
were pulling in the same direction. The more you lose,
the more confidence you lose. And you know that defensively
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they weren't very good. They brought in a new coordinator,
Ryan Neilson last year, and it was a disaster defensively,
so the offense was playing catchup all the time. It
hard to run the ball when you're down seventeen to
six in the second quarter, and that was kind of
the season they had. So yeah, it was I'm not
sure everything that happened, Dan, but it.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
Was a hard year.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Man. It was a hard year, and that's why sometimes
we have those. That's why you have all the changes.
They had the changes, and I think that's why there's
so much positivity now because they are all pulling in
the same direction and they all seem to be of
a similar mind, and I think they're excited about where
they are.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
All right, thanks to Frank Frangie, And here's a quick
invitation to join us for the Bengals pep Rally show
this week will be at the on the Rhine Eatery
on the second floor above the Downtown Kroger on Friday
from three to six and our special guest in the
final hour will be defensive lineman Joseph Osai. If you
can't make it, you can listen on ESPN fifteen thirty
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My Orange Crush addition, as the Bengals get set to
open in Orange as they face Jacksonville in the first
home game of the year. Coming up, I'll go one
on one with Trey Hendrickson and also chat with his
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since the anniversary of a broadcasting masterpiece. Tuesday marked the
sixtieth anniversary of what I consider to be the greatest
work by a sports broadcaster of all time. It was
Vin Scully's radio broadcast of a Sandy Kofax perfect game.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Three times in his sensational career, as Sandy Kofax walked
out to the mound to pitch a fateful ninth where
he turned in a no hitter. But tonight September ninth,
nineteen hundred and sixty five, he made the toughest walk
of his career. I'm sure, because through eight innings he
(01:49):
has pitched a perfect game.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Note that Vin used the words perfect game. There's no
such thing as a broadcaster's jinx. Call of the ninth
inning was filled with vivid descriptions that perfectly captured the drama.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And you can almost taste the freshure. Now twenty nine
thousand people in the ballpark and a million butterflies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And now here's Vin's call of the final.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Out, two and two, the Harvey Keane one strike away,
Sandy into his wind up. Here's the pitch.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Swung on in this the perfect game.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Scully did not speak for thirty eight seconds, he let
the roar of the crowd serve as his color commentator,
and when he finally did return to the mic, he
put the cherry on top of the Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
On the scoreboard and right field. It is nine forty
six pm in the City of the Angels, Los Angeles, California,
and a crowd of twenty nine thirty nine just sitting
in to see the only pitcher in baseball history to
herald four no hit, no run games. He has done
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it four straight years, and now he capped it on
his fourth no hitter. He made it up perfect games,
and Sandy Kopax, whose name will always remind you of strikeouts,
did it with a flourish. He struck out the last
six consecutive batteries. So when he wrote his name in
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capital letters in the record books, that K stands out
even more than the oufax.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
That K stands out even more than the oufax. What
an incredible summary. I've always maintained that if we were
there that night to write a story about the game,
and had several hours to choose every word carefully, our
stories would not compare to what the Dodgers broadcaster ad
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libbed well brought casting it live like Sandy Kofax that night.
Vin Scully was perfect. If you would like to hear
the entire ninth inning, just search for Vin Scully, Sandy Kofax.
You'll see a link on MLB dot com and YouTube.
Now let's get to my first guest. First and ten
(04:19):
Browns at their own twenty five thrash goes in motion.
Placo fakes a handoff and he gets sacked night knocked
down by Trey Hendrickson, who led the NFL with seventeen
and a half of them a year ago, and he's
got his first one in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Seventeen and a half two years in a row, thirty
five two year total. He is a premier pass rushery.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
After a lengthy contract negotiation, the Bengals, an all pro
edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson, agreed to erase this season thirteen
days before the season opener. That led to speculation that
Trey would be on a quote unquote pitch count in
Week one. That did not turn out to be the case.
Trey played the most snaps of any Bengals defensive lineman
(05:05):
and played them well. He's PFF's ninth highest graded Edge
player after one week and for what it's worth, Shamar
Stewart is seventh. I talked to Trey about his performance,
Schamar's performance and why he doesn't wear gloves. Trey, after
having just a few training camp practices, you played fifty
(05:26):
seven snaps in the opener, You had eight quarterback pressures.
You had a huge impact on the game. Al Golden said,
that's an amazing human being to be able to do that.
Were you essentially telling the coaches to leave you out there?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
It was something that the you know, game dictated. Every
drive is important. I think every drive is important in
every game, but specifically we were in must win situations
if we want to go where we want to go.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
This season, big start being in division.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And on the road. So, you know, it was something
that I love this team. I've said that this whole offseason.
I had great work at the d one point of
Vidro with Chase he was my trainer there, and then
coming here I got to work out with Pat at
Black Cheap and then obviously finishing the job with Joey
in House. So I had a great offseason something I
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was very proud of. I know my wife was very
proud of the way I worked as well. So considering
all those things and working out and then getting a
win and me having to play fifty seven snaps, I
do it again.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
The defense held Cleveland to sixteen points, you got two takeaways.
What did the defense do best in the win?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I think we're just creating an identity of what kind
of brand of football we're going to play. And we're
far from where we want to be. There's a lot
on film that we have to get corrected. But anytime
you're learning with a win, that's a good thing. In
the National Football League, we're.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Visiting the Trey Hendrickson throughout training camp, you could be
seen constantly giving pointers to Shamar Stewart. What'd you think
of his debut?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know, I think he's got an exceptional amount of talent.
I think that's what the guys in this building obviously
have seen in the recruiting process of bringing him to
be a part of the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
So the potential is there.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Jerry's doing a good job of tapping that potential and
everything that it comes with, and as he continues to
learn of what our brand of football is, I know
his production will improve.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Jerry coaches hard.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Do you like it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I think Jerry's a great coach. His reputation around the
league speaks volumes. Great person, great coach, fun to work with.
He is an intelligent mind when it comes to run schemes,
how to break them down, how to make it identifiable,
to slow the game down. So for me as a player,
I've been with three different defensive line coaches, and you know,
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all of them in their own rights, have been elite.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great story about how you, during
the period where you were watching practice but not taking part,
reached out to Jerry and said, let's meet every morning
at five thirty am so you could learn basically what
he was working on with the defensive line. Five thirty
am meetings with the coach.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Well, you know it was.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
It was an interesting time for me and I wanted
to do more. So the more I would be able
to learn the defense. Obviously I could teach from in
that situation I was in, so I could actually give
to the guys and be speaking the same language and
being all on the same page, not just you know,
out there just to be out there, you know, like
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having a purpose. While I was out there, all of us,
like I said, collectively speaking the same language. So it
was important to me to learn this defense. You know,
didn't know what the future held, but I wanted to
lean in to the qualities that my wife and I carry,
which is when we're all in, we're all.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
In, you know.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
And that's something that I have made clear since the
beginning of this off season is that I love the
Cincinnati Bengals and I want to.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Be all in for them, no matter what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Do you always get up that early or did you
do it specifically in order to meet with Jerry before
he had other stuff to do.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well, meetings were happening, you know, pretty early here during
camp because there was a quick turnaround for practice for
training camp, so there was a limited amount of time
because obviously when my son was awake in the afternoon
when we all went home, I wanted to spend a
little bit of time with him, not meet after so alarm.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Clock getting a little early. You know, it is what
it is.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
We're in the National Football League, you know, I needed
to catch up for months of time away, and I
think we did a great job, the professional professionalism of
Jerry to do that for me. During the circumstances, and also,
you know there was a mutual respect there where we
all wanted.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
To get better and I could help in any way
I could try.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
You're a four time Pro bowler, you were a first
team All Pro member, last year, runner up for NF
Defensive Player of the Year, NFL sacks leader. It's a
heck of a list. What's next? What are you determined
to do going forward?
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I want to be the best Trey Hendrickson I can be,
and all those accolades aside.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I want to glorify the Lord with my play.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
God has been so gracious to me with the game
of football and my walk personally from high school, college
in the NFL and now being in my ninth year
in the NFL. These are the things I talked about
with my dad when I was six years old, like
every six year old talks about, and having a son.
Now myself puts it in perspective. You know, this is
also a long offseason to spend time with family and reflect.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
I know I have a lot of work to continue
to do.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I know I have a lot of gas in the
tank and tread on the tires, so I'm excited for
the future. But I've never played for the accolades. I
never played for the statistics. I want to help my
team win. I want to play as hard as I
can and let the trips fall where they may. And
I know it's been five years of saying that, it
is the truth, and I have high spectations for myself
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because of the way I work and the way I
conduct myself.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
And you know, but that's something that every.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Week, giving it your all with the win in mind
and helping the team the statistics or the byproduct.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The ruler of the jungle this week is Sam Hubbard,
your teammate, your former running mate, is the two defensive ends.
What did you respect about Sam when you two guys
played together.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
There's so many things I could say what I respect
about him, but I think, you know, he embodied what
being a Bengal was on and off the field, and
I think he was a leader through and through, you know,
first in line, always an example of what it looked
like to be a football player, give a one hundred
percent effort all the time, and his character was second
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to none. You know, he was a guy that you
could always rely on, always trust, knew what to do
and did it to a high level, and I have
a tremendous amount of respect for him and the friendship
I'm going to have with him for years to come
because of the things he taught me as a player
and obviously hopefully the things I taught him.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
He told me you reached out and asked him to
look at the tape, give you some pointers after week one?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Will he?
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You know, I think that football will always be a
part of his life. It'll always be a part of
my life. There's always a day where we won't be
able to play, and whether that's ye're one for some
guys or you're fifteen for other guys, there's a day
where we take off the pads and you know, sometimes
in life it comes sooner than later. And you know,
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for him to handle it with the amount of like
I respect the way he handled it and everything that
he has and a tremendous life looking forward to ahead
of him.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
But yeah, it's a it's.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
A cool thing, you know that for him to you know,
we talk ball, and we will always talk ball, and
I always want his opinion because he gave it to
me on Monday mornings after the game, we would talk
about football.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
So he's a He's a part of.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
The Cincinnati Bengals culture that we're going to continue on here.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Another teammate and friend is Josepho's. He had an awesome
response when I asked about you during your contract impass.
Here's what he said. The defense needs him. You feel
his presence when he's out there. Ask any offensive lineman
in the league. When trade lines up in front of
you with his tinted face, mask, no gloves, long sleeves
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and tights, you know you've got war the whole game.
What's your reaction to that quote.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
I love Joseph, He's been He was my first rookie
as a VET, you know, not to say that being
year four in New Orleans was an a vet, but
I came here for a purpose, and obviously he was
the first defensive end that I was able to inherit
a meaning was drafted to us in our room also
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Cam sample, but to take him under my wing in
some ways like Cam Jordan took me under his wing
and kind of help him along the way. Now he
has to become who he wants to be, and for
him to talk about me like that is special, And
you know, I hope someday you know there's someone that
will look up to him the way you know I
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look up to Cam and hopefully he looks up to me.
So you know, that's just continuing the legacy and of
what football is. It's it's not keep all your secrets
and hold them tight to your chest. It's it's a
giving sport. We have a common goal to win. We're
all wearing the same uniform for this season and continuing forward.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
It's a special thing.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So that's a tremendous respect for him and he's a
he's a friend for life too.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
A follow up to that quote, why no gloves.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
It's just a toughness thing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
You know after a while, Like in New Orleans they
got sweaty, and Fau they got sweaty, and you know,
after a while it was like, man, why you know,
so being a part of you know, there's some guys
that don't wear gloves and you always know that those
guys are they got a little something to him.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Final question, and the only contract related question now that
you're playing again, is the bitterness gone? How are you
feeling mentally?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
You know, it's one one game in a time mentality,
doing what's best for the twenty twenty five Bengals, and
for that, I will give everything I've got. And you
know it's something that I don't even think about what's uncontrollable.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I can only control what's controllable.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
And that's how we handle ourselves in our home and
in our family and how I was raised. So what's
in my control is going out there on Sundays and
giving it my all.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Appreciate you so much, thanks for the time, best of
luck this week.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
All right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Trey has one of four players credited with eight pressures
in Week one to share the NFL lead. Miles Garrett
had two sacks against the Bengals, but the old line
held him to five pressures. For the second straight year,
the Bengals will open in orange, but in addition to
wearing that color, Zach Taylor has another request for any
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of you going to the game.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
I know how loud we're going to be, and so
let's do it early. Let's show him right out the gate.
I think when Sam Hubbard is up there is the
ruler of the jungle. Every seat is packed, and I'd
love to look up just for I'm just asking for
one game, a ten minute sacrifice from the parking lot,
and so that that might just mean getting up ten minutes,
ten minutes earlier and getting to the stadium ten minutes
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earlier than you normally would. And so do whatever you
want of those extra ten and then that extra ten
getting in the stadium. And so when when Sam's the ruler,
I'm kind of looking up at that escalator that's to
my right, and it's it's like, you know, and maybe
people just appease me and stand at the bottom. So
I can't see as he's up there, but I would
love to hear that just week one. The rest of them,
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you can you can tell, get a little extra longer.
But I think for this first one to be awesome,
just to send the message to the team, we got
to do our best to start to to zero. And
for all the great things that we want to do
this year, it starts with playing great at home. And
that's a collective effort from our players, our coaches, our
fan base. And so I'm excited to set off twenty
twenty five the right way at home and Orange were
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oranged out, you know, and the gat and I goes
to be fired up.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So finish that last beverige and Burger at your tailgate
lot and be in your seat ready to belt out
the Hooday chant when it's led by my next guest,
The ruler of the Jungle this week proudly wore the
orange and black for his hometown team for seven years.
I am speaking of the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. Sam,
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great to see you. Here's my first question. What did
you do on your first NFL Sunday in retirement?
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Dan, Good to see you. Uh yeah, it was a
weird feeling.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
I was.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
I was out of town. I was on a fishing
trip in Yellowstone, but I was locked in. I was
in the airport, but locked in on my phone watching
the game. Uh play by play it was. I was
glad they game on with the wind. You know, it's
tough to always play in Cleveland again. That win first
week is so huge to set up the season. I
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was pumped for him.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm sure you're gonna miss game day. But what about
training camp? Did you miscamp up?
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:01):
You know, I've had August this training camp for the
last I don't even know, fifteen twenty years, and having
that month back to myself was different for sure. I
definitely was doing other activities outside of training camp, but
I definitely missed the you know, the time you spend
with your teammates that August training camp, you really develop
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who you're going to be as a team. You kind
of get closer, develop those relationships. And I was texting
some guys seeing what was going on, what was the
latest developments. You know, it's it's fun chatter. And just
felt a little out of the loop, but that's the
natural the way of things.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, I am sure you're up to speed on Week
one now. Road wins in the AFC North are prized commodity.
What did you think about Cincinnati's victory in Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Yeah, it's huge that, Like you said, those AFC North
winds are massive for setting you up for the postseason.
My career, of the last several years, we've had trouble
winning in Cleveland. It's a tough place to play, the grass,
the crowd, that defense is you know, it's it's a
tough win and I'm glad they pulled it off, setting
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themselves up to to be top of the vision and
you know, fight to stay at top it as the
season goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
When you win a game like that and you didn't
play your best, are you fine with it. I'm sure
immediately after the victory you are. But as the days
go by, do you still feel good about it?
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Well, when you can win those games that are close.
You know, last year we had a lot of those
games and we didn't win them, And that's all that
matters is getting those wins and learning from them. And
I'll tell you, you do a lot better in the
long run winning close games like that and learning from
them than you do, you know, having losing all those.
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You know, I'm sure that with the way that they played,
they're very motivated on fixing their mistakes. I know several
guys are, you know, not happy with a one to
oh start with that type of win, So I'm sure
they're building on it and excited about the momentum and
first home game, perfect place to put on their best performance.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
One thing they are definitely happy about was the run defense.
In Week one, Cleveland ran it twenty four times, no
runs longer than five yards. They averaged two yards per carry.
How closely does stopping the run like that correlate to victory?
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Very closely, especially on the road. You know, I saw
a lot of guys taking on blocks, shedding blocks, block
destruction making tackles usually early in the season. Early in
the weeks, you see a lot of mistackles as people
get back into the swing of things. I think they
did a great job. Obviously, we're working really hard in
camp on tackling, putting an emphasis on it, and it
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showed up. And if you can have those fundamentals and
really build your foundation on stopping the run early in
the season, it becomes a standard and I think that
sets them up well. That's a very big positive.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
When you went to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one,
Al Golden was the Bengals linebackers coach. What was your
reaction when he came back to be the DC.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Yeah, I know Il really well. I know how much
he loves football, how intense he is in his preparation.
We always talk about how early he gets there and
all his coffee, and you know how much football means
to him. And I think that resonates to the defense,
especially with these young guys coming from college. You know,
he had experience in college and knows how to develop guys.
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And I thought it was a great fit. Knowing Cincinnati,
knowing you know, the coaching staff, a lot of the
players too. I was excited about the fit, and obviously
they're off to a great start.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You and Trey Hendrickson formed a dynamic duo at defensive end.
What do you respect most about Trey?
Speaker 9 (21:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
I have a lot of respect for play obviously, Trey.
Obviously we have grown very close over the years, had
a lot of big moments, a lot of big wins together.
I really respect his intensity, his work ethic. He's one
of the most intense guys you'll find on the football field,
and that translates to his play, and you know, he's
always looking to get better. He texted me after the
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game coach me up, and I thought that was funny.
You know, he's had a great forty pass rush win
or something like that, and he was still focused on
you know, he's got to improve, He's got to get better.
So that's just the relentless mindset that I think makes
him great.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Will you coach him up?
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Did you watch the tape?
Speaker 8 (22:33):
I watched it. I don't know if he needs much
coaching for me, but sometimes it's good for a second
set of eyes just to bounce ideas off of. So
I'm always there for that for anybody.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Sam, you got to know Joe Burrow as an eighteen
year old college freshman, and you two guys have been
fast friends ever since. When did you start to think
that Joe Burrow could be one of the best quarterbacks
to do it?
Speaker 8 (22:57):
You know, it's an evolution, I think that. You know,
when the quarterback battle was going on at Ohio State,
it dragged on very long because Joe simply wouldn't allow
a clear decision. He was fighting constantly, you know, making
his case. And you know, Dwayne Haskins was a great
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player and came in for the Michigan game the year
before because Joe's hand was broken, and you know, it
kind of set him back, but he fought tooth and
nail and I just earned so much respect for him
during that quarterback battle. And obviously I went to the
NFL and he went to LSUS, so we never got
to play together. But watching him from Afar, you know,
I was campaigning for him to come to the Bengals,
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to Zach to Joe, trying to broker that relationship just
as a friend, knowing how much it'd mean to us,
and thankfully it all worked out.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Good recruiting on your part. I remember that National semifinal
game against Oklahoma, where he threw seven touchdown passes in
the first half, and at that point it was likely
that the Bengals were going to have the first pick
in the draft. Were you as excited watching that LSU
Oklahoma game as I was.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
No.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
I watched every one of his college games with some
of my our Ohio state friends and we just were
you know, in all I like, I think the whole
country was in you know, his performance in big stages,
his growth from his I think his red shirt junior
year to his red shirt senior year, but all throughout
the toughness he showed. I think it took a lot
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of people by surprise and gained a lot of Joe
Burrow fans. But we had a close, a close game
to Miami late in that year where we could have
beaten them in double overtime and lost the first pick.
I'm just glad it worked out and we were although
it was a tough year too, you know, in twenty
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nineteen to go two and fourteen and paid off getting
that first overall pick to get our.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Guy Sam After you fire up the fans as the
ruler of the jungle. This Sunday, the Bengals will host
the Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off an impressive Week one win
over Carolina. What are some keys to victory for the
Bengals this Sunday.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah, I think it's starting fast, you know. I think
that this crowd is going to be incredible open an Orange.
There's gonna be a lot of excitement, a lot of tailgating.
I'll hopefully provide some juice and energy at the start.
But you know, we've had a lot of home openers
where we didn't start fast. I remember playing Jacksonville Week
four on Thursday night in twenty twenty one and we're
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down fourteen to nothing at half, and that just makes
it harder. But if you can get that lead early,
get the crowd behind you, get that crowd noise going,
start getting those pass rushers to get a good get off.
With that silent count and a little chaos, I think
they can really establish a strong foundation to winning at home.
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That can be the key to getting where they want
to be at the end of the year. So I
think it's just starting fast and not letting any adversity
that arises that will for sure arise shake these new
players and it'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You're doing phenomenal work in the community with the Sam
Hubbard Foundation. What do you have going on this time
of year and how can people help?
Speaker 8 (26:17):
Yeah, this time of year, schools back in session. Our
main program, Hubbard's Cupboards, is grown by fifteen schools this year.
This school year that just started, We're in thirty six
local schools providing resources for confidence and school supplies, high
gene items, healthy snacks and if you're interested in learning more,
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check it out on our website Sam Hubbard Foundation dot com.
And I'm excited to be still in this community here
in Cincinnati doing things like this and staying involved.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
We are excited to see you on the stage as
the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday. I appreciate your
time and enjoy the season as a fan for the
first time in a long time.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Thanks Dan, always a pleasure see you there.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
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official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for this
week's Know the Faux segment. After a dreadful season that
ended with a four and thirteen record, the Jacksonville Jaguars
cleaned house, firing their GM and head coach. The new
GM is thirty five year old James Gladstone, the youngest
GM in the NFL. The new head coach is thirty
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nine year old Liam Cohen, among the five youngest head
coaches in the NFL, and the team's new vice president
of football Operations is Hall of Fame offensive lineman Tony Bisselli.
The new trio is off to a good start after
a twenty six to ten Week one win over Carolina.
Frank Frangie is the voice of the Jaguars and joined
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Dave Lapham and me this week on the Bengals Game
Plan Show.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's been a tough go around here, as you guys know,
and it was a good start, and even in the
offseason it felt like it might be that way. Tony
Bucelli is running things around here now. The new regime
seems to be all pulling in the same direction, which
we haven't maybe always had. So yeah, it was a
good start. It was just it was one game, but
I think it felt pretty good around here. I think
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your assessment's dead.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
On what did the Jaguars do best? In your opinion
when you were watching the game live, What did they
do that kind of made you perk up in the
in your in the broadcast booth and take notice, or
after the game when you had time to look at
it again in review tape of it, what might have
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jumped out at you?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Okay, But I think the main thing is they said
they were going to run the ball, and they said
they were going to be a physical So, you know, we.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Have a new regime.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
You never really know, right, you know, you have an
idea what they want to be and what they hope
they'll be. But Liam Cohen ran the ball as the
coordinator in Tampa last year, and I think one of
the things that helped him really sort of unlock some
things in Baker Mayfield is he got Bucky Irving in
that running game going, and I think that's one of
the things that made him attractive to Jacksonville. Well, he
got here and they said, listen, we're going to run
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the football.
Speaker 9 (29:26):
We're going to we have to be a physical football team.
And they did that.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They stuck to the run. They ran for two hundred yards.
You know, the running the teams that are committed to
the run. Everybody could run on first and ten, but
he's still willing to run on second and nine, right
or second and eight. And I think they were so.
I think the commitment to the run traves ETN had
the big game rushing. The team rushed for two hundred yards.
They were more physical than this team's been in a while.
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I think there's one thing that jumped off the page
and I think we were all kind of excited about
is they said they were going to run the football and.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
They did right.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
My son is a student at the University of Colorado,
so I watched a lot of Travis Hunter last year
and it was an amazing show on both sides of
the ball. In Week one, most the offense, just a
few snaps on defense. I heard that Liam Cohen apparently
said earlier today he'll play more defense this week. How
has he looked, I mean, has he been as impressive
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on the practice field as he was for the Buffaloes
last year.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know, damn.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
The thing is he's never tired wherever.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
I don't even where he is right now, but wherever
he is, he's not tired.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 9 (30:30):
He's never tired.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
That's the amazing thing about him. And I'll say this, Yeah,
he's look good in practice. He's got to learn the offense.
He's got to learn defense. But he can play all
day long. And if your son watched him, you probably
watched him.
Speaker 9 (30:43):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
He's got the endurance. What he's got to do is
learn the offense and the defense. Last week he played
forty two plays on offense and six on defense. I
think this week the plan is to play more on defensive.
Liam said for a couple of reasons. Number one, he
got the first game under his belt. Right now, he's
got the feel of playing on both sides of the
ball and knowing both game plans. And he did that
one time, so this will be the second time he's
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done that.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
The other thing is.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He's playing Joe Burrow. Okay, with all apologies to Bryce Young,
this week, he's playing Joe Burrow. When he's playing those
receivers so I think it's all hands on deck. Defensively,
I don't know that it's going to be. Let's say
there's sixty offensive plays and sixty defense. I don't know
that he's going to play forty and forty, but I'll
bet you he plays twenty to twenty five on defense,
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would be my guest this week, and forty or so
on offense. If I was guessing, I think that's where
it would be.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
But yeah, he's been very impressive.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He's a great kid, hard worker, gained the respect of
his teammates really right out of the gate, and he's
going to be some player.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
He really is.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
What other players on the Jacksonville Jaguars have impressed you.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I would say Travis Etn had the big game. You know,
people have been trying to chase off TRAVIS'STN forever. Right,
He's the first round draft pick. He was just okay
for some of those years, so they thought, I think
Bigsby might beat him out. He's more of a downhill runner.
Then they drafted to running backs, they drafted Basil Tutons,
they drafted le Quinn Allen, and everybody thought Travis might
be say everybody, many thought Travis might be the forgotten man. Well,
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he took that personally.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
He said, okay, okay's still my job.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
And he had the big game one hundred and forty
plus last week, so he certainly looked good. And I
think one of the reasons is they blocked. They brought
in Robert Hainsey to be their center. He's a physical player.
They brought in Patrick McCarey from the Ravens to be
the right guard.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
He's a physical player. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Was always athletics, but I thought he had a little
more lead in his rear end this time than I've
seen in the past. So the running game Travis CTN
stood out. And I'll say this, Foyer Lucan had a
great game. He was kind of playing out of position.
He's always led the team in tackles. He's often led
the league at tackles.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Last year they moved him to from the mic to.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
The will because they thought he'd played space better, and
it was a mistake. He's back at the mike linebacker spot.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
He was the player.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
He was the AFC Player of the Week defensively this week,
and he earned that with ten tackles and a diving interception.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I would say a Lucon.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
On the defensive side the middle linebacker, and travisse Etn
on the offensive side who had a really big game.
Those two guys are attorneyes that were real pleased with
how they played.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
There are a lot of high draft picks on the
defensive line. Frank the number one overall pick from a
few years back, Trayvon Walker the seventh pick in the
draft not too long ago, Josh heinz Allen many years ago,
Eric Armstead was the seventeenth pick in the draft. Remains
a giant up front. How good is that group? Because
the Cleveland Browns front gave Cincinnati a lot of trouble last.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Week and the ends are very good.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I would say that Josh heines Allen and Trayvon Walker
are going to continue to be good players.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
Two years ago, Josh.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Had seventeen and a half sacks and Trayvon had ten.
Last year, Treyvon had ten. Josh didnt that as good
a year, but the ends are good.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
They're good there.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Duan smooth Is the backup end, had two sacks last
week or a sacond and a half. They went and
got Emmanuel ogg go to be a backup end, so
I think they're okay outside. I would say that the
jury is still out on the tackles. Eric Armistead did
not practice much. He was hurt too much a camp
played last week. I'm not sure he played, made a
lot of splash plays. De Von Hamilton, the nose guard,
played okay last week. They added two guys, Austin Johnson
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from Buffalo and Colin Saunders from from New Orleans. I
think they're just okay at tackle. I think if you
if you try to identify a concern on the football
team going into the season coming out of camp, it
would be defensive tackle. I'm not sure they fixed that.
It'll be interesting to see. So I think the ends
are pretty good and and I think they like where
they are with their ends. They'd probably like to see
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the tackles flash a little bit more. I think I would,
And I think that's probably where they are as well.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
How how big a focus is ball security with the
coaching staff during the course of practice.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. Any team that runs
the ball and it's sound like a broken record here,
guys that I apologize, but we haven't done that around here,
right any team it's that committed to running the ball.
Better take care of the ball. You know, if you
think if you're a running team, the game's going to
be a little shorter, right, You're not as likely to
come from behind, And I think you better care of
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the ball.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Now.
Speaker 9 (35:13):
Again, they've played one game.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
That doesn't mean Trevor won't throw it forty five times
on Sunday in Cincinnati. But I think that's who they
want to be. You always want to establish your identity,
and I think that's who they want to be. So
they've got to take care of the ball, and Trevor's
got to take better care of the ball. He would
tell you that Trevor's got to. Trevor Lawrence is a
really good kid and he's going to be a very
good player in this league. There's no doubt in my mind.
I think he's made progress, but the one thing he's
(35:35):
got to do is take care of the ball. I
think Trevor was so successful in college sticking balls in
there where you probably shouldn't have been able to. But
his receivers were so good and his arm is so
good that he got some balls in it and.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Maybe you shouldn't. You shouldn't have been able to write.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And you have to learn and you get in this
league and didn't like that. You get in this league.
That cornerback from wake Forest who couldn't quite get there
is now a cornerback from the Denver Broncos who's going
to get there right. And I think that he had
to learn that and I think he's starting to. So, Yes,
small security is a big deal. Turnovers or the kiss
of dead. By the way, we were the worst team
(36:10):
in the league last year in takeaways. The Jagguars had
nine takeaways all last year. The defense got them nine
turnovers all last year. They harready got three in the
first game. They had three takeaways for a team that's
a third of what they did in the entire season.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
So that's certainly a point of emphasis with his defense
as well.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Three years ago, Jacksonville made the playoffs and won a
playoff game, one of the great comebacks in football history,
twenty seven zip to beat the Chargers. They still had
a winning record the following year and Trevor Lawrence got
hurt late in the season or they might have made
the playoffs again. And then last year the bottom fell
out for whatever reason. Four wins all year. What happened.
(36:48):
Why did they fall off that coup last year?
Speaker 9 (36:51):
Boy, then that is the question.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm still horse from that comeback three years ago, so
I remember it well. One of the fun moments we've
all had around here.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
You know what the question you just asked is is.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
The bizarre one? They had the really good year under
Doug Peterson his first year here the playoffs, They won
the playoff game, they went they may be Elite eight
if you will, of the NFL, and then lost to
obviously a very good Chiefs team.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
And they were very good that year.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
The next year they started eight and three and it
looked like they were It looked like they were pretty good. Now,
if you remember the game against the Bengals here, Christian
Kirk got hurt. Okay, in that game when he got her.
There were eight and three at the time, and that's
the game he got hurt, and that started the spiral down.
Speaker 9 (37:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
They finished one in five. One in five started with
that game against the Bengals and never picked up the pieces.
I thought last year they kind of would resurrect that,
but they just never got it going. Doug Peterson's a
wonderful man. I think he's a very good football coach,
but I'm not sure he and the in the GM
were pulling in the same direction. The more you lose,
the more confidence you lose. And you know that defensively
(37:55):
they weren't very good. They brought in a new coordinator,
Ryan Neilson last year, and it was a disaster defensively,
so the offense was playing catchup all the time. It
hard to run the ball when you're down seventeen to
six in the second quarter, and that was kind of
the season they had. So yeah, it was I'm not
sure everything that happened, Dan, but it.
Speaker 9 (38:12):
Was a hard year.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Man. It was a hard year, and that's why sometimes
we have those. That's why you have all the changes.
They had the changes, and I think that's why there's
so much positivity now because they are all pulling in
the same direction and they all seem to be of
a similar mind, and I think they're excited about where
they are.
Speaker 9 (38:28):
I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
All right, thanks to Frank Frangie, And here's a quick
invitation to join us for the Bengals pep Rally show
this week will be at the on the Rhine Eatery
on the second floor above the Downtown Kroger on Friday
from three to six and our special guest in the
final hour will be defensive lineman Joseph Osai. If you
can't make it, you can listen on ESPN fifteen thirty
(38:51):
or by searching for ESPN fifteen thirty on the iHeart
media app. That's going to do it for This episode
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