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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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radio replays from Thursday night's win in Baltimore. It is
Thanksgiving night in Baltimore and Cincinnati Bengals fans are counting
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their blessings to have a quarterback who is is obsessed
with being the best in the game, obsessed with leading
his teammates, and obsessed with ultimately winning a Super Bowl. Tonight,
that quarterback, Joe Burrow, is back as the Bengals take
on the Baltimore Ravens in a primetime showdown here at
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M and T Bank Stadium. Here's a toss sweep to
the left to the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown. The
King Derrick Henry goes twenty eight yards for the game's
first touchdown. Cincinnati's showing pressure. On third down and nine,
they send five Lamar Jackson from the pocket. He is
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hit and he goes down. The ball comes out and
the Bengals recover inside the five.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
About it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Joseph Osai punched it out and Cedric Johnson recovered. The
Bengals will have it inside the five. They're gonna spot
it around the three yard line. Jackson catches a shot
gun snap from the pocket, inches up, now throws and
it is caught on the run at the thirty twenty
five twenty likely to the ten, the five to the
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end zone. Touchdown. Baltimore forty three yards on a short
crossing route to tight end Isaiah Likely.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, exactly. Danny came underneath and came all the way
across the football field, and boy, he lost control of
the football before he crossed the goal line.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Shotgun snap to Burrow, fakes to Chase Brown. He's gonna
fling it deep down the field for Jamar Chase. What
a catch over the shoulder, blanketed by Marlin Humphrey. One
man on the face of the earth can make that
catch and his name is Jamar Chase. Forty three yards.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And Humphrey can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
This will be a twenty four yard field goal try
from the right hash Evan McPherson looking for his third
field goal of the half. Wagner ready to snap it
back now the right footed kick and the Bengals have
the lead. Joe is ready catches the shotgun snap, he
begins scrambling right. Burrow throwing downfield for Hudson.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's got it.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Wow, touchdown Bengals. What an adjustment to the ball by
Hudson and he knocks over the back right pylon for
a fourteen yard touchdown. Joe Burrows first since returning from
the toe injury. Here's a toss to the right, Mitchell
running to the five to the goal line, touchdown Ravens.
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The Bengals flowed in the wrong direction and when they
pitched it to the speedy Keaton Mitchell, there was nobody
home to bring him down. Burrowing the shotgun p rind
to his right. Shotgun snap, Joe under pressure, flings it
down the middle of the field. Yo see Bosh leaps
at the three and takes it into the end zone
a twenty eight yard touchdown to Andre Yo Siebosh and
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the Bengals lead is back to eleven with a pat
coming up. Huge play here third and nine at the
Cincinnati fifteen. The Bengals showing pressure. They've got seven guys
up on the line. Lamar drops back. Lamar throws downfield,
tip intercepted Patrius Knight running it back. He's at the
thirty thirty five forty spin move there and tackled around
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the forty five yard line. A tip at the line
results in a pick for Dimitrius Night and the Bengals
get their fourth takeaway and Night runs it back thirty
six yards. Shotgun snapped to Lamar, Ravens operating quickly. Sideim
throw caught by Zay Flowers loses the ball. The Bengals
scoop it up. CJ. Turner runs it to the thirty six.
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A fumble recovered by Cincinnati, and that is coffin nails.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Bam, bam, bam.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
This will be field goal trying number six from forty
one yards out. Wagner's snap Pato Rico and Moneymax kick
is on its way and it is good, his sixth
of the game. The Bengals have scored thirty two points
on the road in Baltimore and have a thirty two
to fourteen lead with one six to go, and that
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was the final score as Joe Burrow returns to the
lineup with the Bengals listed as a seven point underdog
and leaves Baltimore with an eighteen point win.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
There's no better feeling than that, you know, putting in,
putting in work for for a long time and going
out and in it paying off. It's uh, there's.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Just just this. There's just no feeling like going.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Out in front of the world with a group of
guys that work really hard to go try to win
games and going out and putting on a good performance
and winning that game. You know, obviously we got a
lot of games left, but we're gonna enjoy this one
on this on this little mini by weekend, and everybody's
going to go and have Thanksgiving with their families and
smile and eat and feel.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Good about it.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Certainly hasn't been easy on me through through six years
from a lot of different angles, but you know, I've
worked really hard to put myself in position to be
back out there, and a lot of people around me
have done the same. And I've just been a lot
of discussions and a lot of time in the training
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room and It's just a lot, a lot that has
gone into this and you know, I'm proud to be done.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Burrow finished twenty four for forty six for two hundred
and sixty one yards, with two touchdowns, no picks, only
one sack, and a passer rating of eighty three point seven.
Chase Brown had seventy eight rushing yards and thirty five
receiving yards for a total of one thirteen, his sixth
straight game with one hundred or more scrimmage yards. That's
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a new team record. Jamar Chase had seven catches for
one hundred and ten yards, and Burrow's touchdown passes went
to andre Yosi Vash and Tanner Hudson. I caught up
with Hudson in front of his locker. Tanner happy, Thanksgiving
grats on the touchdown catch. What a night for everybody
on this team. You talk about a team victory, Christ
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would be Epitomi.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Oh, it really was. I mean all around, having having
go back the way you know, we just rallied around,
rally around everybody, the way the defense play to night.
It's a really really good.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Win for this team.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Uh, just how this season has went, it feels really good.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Can you quantify what Joe's return did for the team
just in terms of lifting everybody's spirits and energy level.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, I mean, when you got a guy that's arguably
the best quarterback in the league, I think it's gonna
elevate everybody's play, whether whether you're thinking about it or not.
So I'm bringing someone with someone like that back. Yeah,
it made a whole lot of team all right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
So you came back to Baltimore tonight last year on
two point conversion at the end of the game, they
went to you.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Unfortunately it didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Could have been about six penalties called on the play.
None were You come back and make a spectacular touchdown catch.
Describe to play and what that moment meant.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Oh, yeah, I mean third and nine. You know, it's
a play that we worked on this week, and going
through my head, I just had certain ways I knew
I wanted to run it, and the guys a look
that I wanted. Joe put up a great ball that
really only I could catch and you know, coming down
with it and kind of giving an extra spark to
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the team, and I felt really good.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Joe was good. I feel like he's just going to
keep getting better. Considering that he missed nine games with.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
How he did the first night back.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
It is remarkable, But it's also he I think he
is the best quarterback league. So I think for him
that's probably his standard is just a beat great and
that's what he came out here he did.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Do you guys feel like you're back in the hunt
but still.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
In the hunts? Oh, we're never This team has never
out of it. This team the way that we like
Zach always says, the way that we come to pract
is the way we are in the building.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
There's there's no.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Quid in the team and we're just going to continue
to push and win games.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
This again did it in one of the biggest spotlight
nights that the NFL has, the Thanksgiving night national TV.
Everybody in the country of the world is watching this one.
Does that make it a little extra special?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Yeah, I mean it's always fun to play. I mean,
to be able to play on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The night game.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
You know, everybody's stuff sitting on the couch and they
got the game on, whether they're asleep or actually watching it.
But yeah, it's to come out in front of the
whole world and put on that kind of performance as
a team. Yeah, that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Congrat some spectacular touchdown, catching a great win.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Then there's the Bengals defense. It's not enough to say
the defense has been much maligned. They've been mocked and ridiculed.
But for the third straight week, the Bengals held the
other team's offense under twenty one points, and the fourteen
scored by the Ravens is the fewest Cincinnati has given
up all year. Five takeaways was the big key, and
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a strip sack by Joseph Osai was the first. Joseph Osai,
what a knight. Two sacks, four quarterback hits, a force pumble.
I thought it was the best game of your NFL career.
How are you feeling right now?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Feeling great, Very thankful for these guys, thankful to God
most importantly, very thankful for my teammates, Thankful that you know,
it's been it's been a rough couple of weeks, but
they come to word every day and there's no quick
there's no nobody's checked out, and it's it's it's beautiful
to see it come to for tuition.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Like that on the field.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
For sure, it's been a challenging year for the defense.
What's it mean to do it in this circumstance? Thanksgiving night?
Everybody watching a great team on the other side.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Uh, he's the world means the world.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It has been a challenging here. It's to me more
specific job, challenging a few leagues.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
But you know, we're we're in a bucker mentality right now.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Shut up the outside noise.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Nobody but us, nobody but us.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Take this just like we took the last two weeks.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
How he played the last two weeks and then use
at his momentum, keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's all five takeaways, including four bumbles. You guys work
on this stuff every day, Yeah tonight, like all that
extra work paid off.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, And it only takes one. Everybody knows
when it comes to football, they come in bunches. It
only takes one. And that's exactly what happened today.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And that's just.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Giving the younger guys hope to keep working at it
and keep working other things. You know, the club, Secure
the punch, the tip, get your hands up. If you're
not getting to the rest, gets your hands up. You
can tip a pass, change the game. And that's exactly
what happens. So it's good to see for.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Sure what effect did Burrow have on the entire team.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
You know, you know what I know, that's Joe Burrs.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's that's what they call him out there. You know,
his ice cold.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
For him to be back right now is even so
that fight. You know, you could say the way our
we're we're we're progressing, the way our season is looking,
you can say it's it's it's easy for him to
you know what I mean, check out and not want
to not want to be here, and and and and
fight with us. Fun just seeing him come back, fight
through that and wanting to be here because he's a
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football player, like he said, it's it's it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
People joking say, well, he doesn't play defense, you can't
help the defense. But does he help the defense just
with his presence?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
When you when you see your brother defensive offense, when
you see your brother fighting, you know this game is
so beautiful in the in the senset, you go to war,
you go to war to the brother, to the to
the to the left and right of you, and defensive offense,
that team you see your brother going to war inspire
it inspire anybody, So it doesn't matter if he's not
on the defense.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You just see his heart. You see his heart you.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Want to go ball and and even more with within
the field.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So it's great. It's great having me back.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I would think that this would be really fun because
so many guys were involved. Offense, defense, Yeah, special teams.
I don't know how many game balls Zach handed out,
but it could have been.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
A lot, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And it was a beautiful team win for sure.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Topped the bottom when we needed them to get pinned,
when we needed them to get pin special teams did
exactly that. When we needed a score, offense did exactly that.
When we needed to stop, defense did exactly that. You know,
early in the game, Zach took a chance, he went
for it on fourth down. I said to the defense,
I said, that's trust.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That is trust. He trusts us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
It was a turnover right there on the goal line,
and he went for it fourth You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Everybody in America, I'm pretty sure probably said that was
a terrible call.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But I said to the defense, that is trust, he
trusts us.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
You know what I'm saying, what are you gonna do
with that? So we were able to come up big
and get to stop and get off the field.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It's a fun night. Congratulations, an awesome performance. Happy thanks.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The win improves the Bengals to four and eight and
ends a streak of four straight had to head losses
to the Ravens, and it came against Lamar Jackson, who
is now ten and two against Cincinnati. Dave Lapham spent
a few minutes with Zach Taylor after a very satisfying win.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We heard all the celebrating that was going on in
the locker room. Guys were letting their hair down big time.
It sounded. I mean, I remember what that was like.
I remember the feeling. Chado cho Cinco made a guest
appearance in the locker room through what was that like?
Speaker 7 (15:38):
I didn't notice that. I saw him on the field
before the game and after the game. And we got
a lot of great former players here like yourself and
Chad o cho Cinco, and they're welcome anytime, and so
it was awesome for him to be around the team
and celebrate it. He made the trip all the way
out here. He deserves celebrated with the team.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What about Joe Burrow, I mean, this guy is special.
I mean, there's no I can't think of another tip
to use. He started to get a rhythm, He started
to really get a rhythm and a timing, and he
was playing very free, wasn't.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
He He was? And not to stick away from that,
but our defense gave us the ability to do that.
Our defense gave him and our offense a chance to
really settle in and find our rhythm to really explore
there in the second half. And so Joe's done such
a great job handling as rehab, handling, the preparation for
this game gave us a lot of confidence. And then
to go out there and be able to play on
the road in difficult circumstances, I thought was awesome.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And number one, Jamar Chase has had big games against
the Baltimore Ravens as well, and Borrow to Chase, it
was just so good to see those guys number nine
to number one. It was good to see that connection again.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
It is you know, Jamar's you wouldn't trade him for
any other receiver in the world. And he's so dependable
on some of those key third down plays when he
can get a one on one or even a two
on one, Joe's still going to take a shot at him,
and Jamar made some huge plays for us.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Drew Sample I thought stepped up big tonight. I mean,
he was effective as a blocker, and he also did
the heck of a job running routes and catching the
football for you. Move the chains a lot of first
downs on third down conversions. He played well, didn't he.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
He does all the dirty work, you know, and appreciate
you mentioned that, because that's he doesn't do jobs that
people are ever going to notice in the stands watching
the game, But for coaches in our program and around
the league, it's known what he does and what role
he plays, and he's able to help us in protection.
He's able to help us in the run game. He's
able to play running back for us on some downs
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and protection he got to check down got us forward.
So again we we appreciate drewd He does a great
job for us.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You mentioned your defense, How well your defense played, I
mean the points, the points a lot. I mean Baltimore
is used to scoring more points than they did this
football game, considering that they played here in front of
their crowd in Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
How big was that? It was awesome?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
You know, I thought our defense just really came out
with a lot of confidence. It's been building over the
last two weeks, and to be able to play the
game the way they did today and create all the
turnovers and just have so much confidence. You're gonna see
some guys really coming along now butt in. They understand it,
they get it, and so now you're just getting more
and more reps invested, and we're just gonna get better
and better. I feel like as the season goes.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
What about money mack Evan McPherson. I mean, the guy's
got a leg. It's a Howard, some man hanging off
that right hip, and he made some big kicks for
you tonight, didn't he awesome?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Six six? I mean it's assuming it gets a franchise record.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I think it is. It might be seven for seven.
I think Dan mentioned the guy wins seven for seven
at some point.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
Oh, we should have figured out a way to get
one more, you know, maybef we hadn't fumbled there at
the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
There you got one more.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
But these conditions weren't easy. I mean, it wasn't there
was a high wind up there as he's kicking, and
to my eye, he did an excellent job kicking all
of them. And he's just got so much confidence this year.
You know, he's back to the Evan that we've always
known and that's such a luxury to have.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
So if Pittsburgh loses to Buffalo, the best record in
the division is six and six. Legitimately, I mean it's
not like people like, oh, come on, legitimately, you're in
the hunt.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
We're just gonna keep fighting one week at a time.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
I know.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
We got Buffalo at ten days from now. That's our focus.
We just try to control that. Don't worry about the
big picture right now. Just keep taking one game out
of time. This is the exact position we were in last year,
you know, and so unfortunately we've been here. We know
how to dig our way out of it. And that's
what's going to take.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And finally, what are you going to do during the
bye week? What do you got any plans or just
to chill with the family.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Man, Just chill with the family. You know, it'll be
good to see him over the holidays, and just blessed
to have such a great support system. And so look,
forward to seeing them. Congratulations on a big win, Zach,
thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
These two teams meet again at pay Court Stadium in
two and a half weeks, but up next it's a
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Speaker 2 (20:10):
Lap. That was one.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Happy locker room because every guy on offense, defense, and
special team seemingly contributed.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I couldn't agree with you more, Dan, I mean that
that's a great feeling. It's a team sport. I think
football is probably the epitome of team and if you're
you do your one eleventh and everybody does their one eleventh,
you can have games like this And this is a big,
big deal. I mean to come to Baltimore and not
just beat the Baltimore Ravens, but I mean spank them,
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embarrassed them in front of their crowd. I mean their
crowd was doing more booing than cheering, it seemed like,
during the during the course of the football game. So
I know that locker room was loud, happy, everybody's excited.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
And really, if.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
If Pittsburgh loses to Buffalo, best recommend Division six and six,
the Bengals are right in the hunt. I mean they're
in the thick of it and they're not about to
put their tail between their legs and go away.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
How much of an impact did Joe Burrow have. I'm
every single person in the room on the other side
of that door over.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
There, unbelievable, as big as I've ever seen. I mean,
he is the unquestioned leader of the football team. Here's
the straw that serves the drink. There's no doubt about that.
I mean, as Joe Borrow goes, so go the Cincinnati Bengals.
In my conversation with Zach and the postgame show, and
I said, you could see where eventually Joe started getting
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a rhythm and felt the timing the ball was coming
out of his hand well, you know, it seemed like
it started to get free and easy for him, and
Zack said he couldn't agree more. And for Joe to
play as well as he played with all the circumstances
that we talk about, coming to Baltimore and having to
play against this football team, it's no easy task and
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he handled himself very well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Al Golden has had these guys doing turnover drills from
the first day of OTAs. Before practice begins, they're out
there practicing, ripping the ball, punching the ball, doing everything
they can to try to get takeaways. Really hasn't paid
off much until tonight and then on Thanksgiving Night with
the world watching, they get five takeaways.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
It was unbelievable to watch, really, I mean, and as
the old saying goes, they come in bunches, you know,
once they start to come, they just seek. The Spickett
gets turned on, you know, and the Fawcett starts overflowing.
And everybody contributed, every level of the defense. Defensive line
did their thing. Everybody played their gap control responsibility. They
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knocked the ball out. Miles Murphy was great. Joseph a
side maybe had the best game that I've ever seen
him play, and then you know, the young linebackers were
flying around the football field. Man, they were playing fast,
they were playing confidently and with great speed. And then
on the back end, I thought, you know, I thought
dj was phenomenal. I thought he had his best game.
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I've seen him play, play tackling, and everybody made plays.
That's the thing, Like you said, everybody contributed to this
football game. It was a team win. It was probably
the best definition of a team win I've seen in
a while.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Burrow wound up throwing the ball quite a bit. He
threw forty six passes in the game, but he was
under center a decent amount. He only got sacked once.
Did we start to see maybe a little bit of
an evolution with some of the stuff that Joe Flacco
did during the six games where he played.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I'm wondering, you know, it seemed like they incorporated some
of that stuff. And I know the Joe's have been talking,
you know, Joe Burrow and Joe Flacco about football, everything
about football. You know, the only disadvantage with getting under
center is when you play action fake, you turn your
back and you turn.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Your head to the defense.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
And I think Joe likes the shot comes for that reason,
he's always looking to seeing what the defense is doing.
And you know he has the same picture that he's
looking at the whole time, instead of the picture changing
when you turn your head like that. But yeah, it's
it's I think I think that to have the ability
to do both, I think he's going to stand him
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in good stead as the season progresses, because, let's face it,
then they got to go six and zer, they got
to win them all.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
A lot of people have said, well, I play them
if the games, you know, don't have impact on the
playoff race. I'll say this, Let's say that they beat Buffalo.
Let's say that they beat Baltimore in the rematch, and
they still don't make the playoffs. How much better would
you feel going into next year beating teams like that,
having Burrow back, hopefully continue to see progress by the defense.
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I mean, I would feel a million times better about
the prospects for net Seaton next season if those types
of things happen.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, it wouldn't be like you know, coach speak, it
wouldn't be like high this guy they did it. They
would have gone out and beaten these teams when the
games mean something when the game's on the line, when
these teams have to win games to get the seed
they want to get to go into the playoffs, and
you spank them, you slap them, you knock them back.
That's that's important. And there's no way that Joe Burrow
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wasn't going to play. I mean he was. He feels
like he was one hundred percent, and you know, the
medical people and everybody agreed. So he played, and he
played at an extremely high level. I mean, this football
team loves their quarterback, I mean loves their quarterback like
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nobody loves their quarterback. And I think I think Joe
Flacco is in a good situation. I mean he's there
if something happens to Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco is right
there to pick up the pieces, you know. And Bengals
find themselves in a pretty damn good situation at the
quarterback position.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
In the words of Bill Murray and Stripes, an army
without a leader is like a foot without a big toe.
The big toe is back, is big toe is healthy.
Bengals have their leader.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Bingo. I love it, Dan.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's a wrap on the Baltimore game. Now time for
this week's fun Facts conversation where we get to know
a Bengals linebacker who has faced Kansas City in each
of the last two Super Bowls. Time for some fun
facts with linebacker Orren. Burke's from Lorton, Virginia, not too
far from Washington, d C. What were some of the
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things you enjoyed about growing up there.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, one just had a lot of family there.
Speaker 8 (26:36):
Just I feel like the DMV as a whole, just
a lot of culture there, music, food, You're close to
a little bit of everything, a lot of politics, a
lot of military. But yeah, I just have great memories
growing up there. A lot of history there as well
in the DC area, So I feel like I didn't
appreciate it as much as I do as an adult
now going back and like really seeing how cool of
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the city it is.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
So love living there.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
For visiting with Ooron Burr. When did you start to
stand out as an athlete?
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Yeah, I was very active early played baseball, soccer, basketball,
and then ended up playing football. Basketball was definitely my
my number one kind of growing up, and I had
a lot of big cousins that played basketball.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
As well and wanted to be like them, you know.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
They ended up playing in college and some in the
pros and and abroad as well, but.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
My path ended up being football.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
I started playing football my freshman year in high school
and just wanted to make some friends going into the year,
and I just knew that was gonna be a great
opportunity to meet guys and you know, bond that way,
and eventually fell in love with the game. But just
always was very athletic and loved basketball, like I said,
And I feel like that's where I got my grade.
I wasn't always like the best player on the team,
but just really learned like how to hustle and just
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like find a way to add value to a team.
And you know that that's carried over to everything that
I do. So I really enjoyed my you know, my journey.
And I feel like a lot of kids now they
special lies like really early into sports, and like I
just enjoyed playing all the sports and being competitive, and
I feel like that really has worked out in my
in my favor.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
There's an old picture of you on the internet from
being the homecoming king at your high school. Were you
involved in other activities as well? Are pretty much sports only?
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah, A lot of sports I was involved with FCA
at our school, as much community service as I can
get into, and just very social we had. We had
a really really cool high school experience with just everybody
supporting each other with sports and academics. Was a huge
pieces for me. My family as well obviously ended up
going to Vanderbilt, so that was a big piece for
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me moving into college. Uh, and my sister went to
Stanford play softball there as well. So we're always student athletes,
and I just really appreciate my my upbringing. My parents
let enforced that really early into us, just having great
values and knowing that it's beyond sports and just having
the impact in your community and beyond.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
So yeah, that was a big piece of me.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So with you at Vanderbilt and your sister at Stanford,
did your folks more or less tell you make this
choice as much about the academics as the athletics.
Speaker 8 (29:06):
Not directly, but definitely kind of indirectly. They were like,
you know, just think about the long term situation, what's
your major, what you want to do, you know, beyond
playing the game, because you know, like the numbers tell
you that, you know, you're probably not going to play
in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Or for her, professional sports, but.
Speaker 8 (29:23):
Just having a backup plan when that does come. And
you know, I feel like that has allowed me to
be a well rounded individual. Just just really taking intent
about my my academics has helped me tremendously, you know,
just the way I process thing, the way I learn,
and just again just being a well, well arounded individual.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
You started out as a safety at Vanderbilt. How did
you become a linebacker and how did you feel about it?
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Yeah, so I was actually a recruiter as a linebacker.
I was James Franklin. I know, he's a Virginia technologis
last recruiting class at Vanity before he went to Penn State.
I was a linebacker that year. We had a new
just have come in with coach Mason and he saw
me as a safety.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
So I played safety.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
I was middle posts, like running all over the place
for two years, and then I played a hybrid outside
inside position, and then I played inside my last year.
So really all over the field. But for me, it's
just about find a way to get on the field,
add value, make plays, and I feel like that allowed
me to have the skill set. You know, this this
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league has changed a lot at the lineback position, being
able to run and cover, and I feel like that
safety background has definitely helped me in terms of like
seeing the game from a different perspective.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
We're chatting with Orrin Burks as we do this interview.
Your alma maters ranked twelfth in the country in college football.
How much fun is it for Vanderbilt grads to see
this rise of the commodorees in college football?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Man, it's been it's been a long time coming.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
Just so proud of the guys, Coach Lee leading the
way and having the opportunity to be around them during
the spring and in the summer, just seeing like the
culture that they're building, and just just so proud as
a loan to go to see them, you know, thriving
on the field and doing it at a high level
and getting you know, the exposure from the national media.
But just always had faith in you know, this program
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doing it the right way, and the city of Nashville
is getting behind them as well. So it's been really
cool to see the guys take off this year.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
You're drafted by the Green Bay Packers in the third
round in twenty eighteen. How stressful was that day leading
up to getting the phone.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Call I wasn't very stressed.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I feel like I had you know, at that point,
you do everything you can to put yourself in the
best situation in terms of being drafted, and I felt
really good about my draft process. I played well in
the senior ball as a laid ad there, did well
in the combine. I felt like I did well in
my interviews, and my tape was my tape from college.
You know, I had a lot of versatility from the
safety to the inside and outside, and I felt like
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I had kind of like done everything I could and
just really had a sense of like this freedom, you know,
just like being able to surrender the outcomes of where
I would land. You have no idea where you're going
to be, so like it's not even worth you trying
to guess for the guys that are going through that
process coming up. But yeah, I just felt like I
had done everything I could and was excited for the
opportunity to land anywhere, you know, in the NFL and
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make my mark.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
The Packers missed the playoffs your rookie year. Since then,
you've been on six consecutive playoff teams with Green Bay,
San Francisco and Philly. You've played in the last two
Super Bowls. What have you learned about the most important
traits of winning teams?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Man, it's a lot. I'll say first, it's just culture
is so important. Just the standard for play, play style,
not even just scheme, just the way that you play
the game, the way that you prepare your process. It
bleeds over to everybody into the building. It includes the
front staff, the back, like everybody has to be bought
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in for you to really make a run. And I
feel like that has improved my process as well. It
made me a better person, maybe a better man, in
terms of like the accountability that it takes, the effort
that it takes, and ultimately vulnerability like this game, like
you're exposed every every Sunday, You're out there and you
know the whole world is seeing you. So you're just
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trying to put your best foot forward for yourself and
for your brothers next to you. So I don't know,
just taking that approach, as you know, it had it's
better in my life, you know, in terms of me
having to be better for my brother right next to me.
So I just really enjoyed that about football, the challenge
that it is every weekend and week out, it's find
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a way to get better.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I work with Dave Lappam on the broadcasts. He was
on the Super Bowl team in nineteen eighty one with
the Bengals lost to the forty nine Ers. It still
hurts to this day. You played on the losing team
a couple of years ago, and then the next year
we're on the winning team with the Philadelphia Eagles. How
did that feel, considering that you still had that fresh
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wound from the year before.
Speaker 8 (33:53):
Yeah, it was just I feel like I just had
the mindset I have to see it through, you know,
just having an opportunity and coming up short with the
Niners and then having the opportunity the next year against
the same team that that very rarely happens, so it's
a different locker room. But you know, they had kind
of experienced the same thing a couple of years ago,
is losing to the Chiefs as well, So I felt
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like there was a lot of joint motivation towards, you know,
getting it right this time. And Yeah, just just wanted
to leave it out there on the field everything I could,
you know, preparation and just knowing what to expect for
the Super Bowl week as well. It was really important
in terms of sticking to your process. The craziness outside
and you know that that goes into that week as well.
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Just being able to keep your head down and work
towards the ultimate goal because afterwards there's no greater feeling.
And then then host hoisting that that Lombardi Trophy and
being with your brothers in the in the locker room.
So yeah, just looking at looking to repeat that field.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He Sean Nixon is deep and we're underway another game
in the National Football League postseason. Nixon will take it
on the far side outside of numbers.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
To the twenty on a diagonal twenty five, and he
is smashed.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I lost the football.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's inside the thirty and recovered by the Eagles. Or
and Burkes knocked it loose.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Boy, what a hit that was.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Orrin Burkes just laid an unbelievable shot on Keyshawn Dixon
to knock that ball out. Holy cow, it's not quite
the Philly Special, but you made a play that Eagles
fans will be talking about for decades. You force the
fumble on the very first play of the playoff run
with a jarring hit to the Packers kick returner. How
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cool is it? To have a moment like that that
anytime you go back to Philly, somebody's going to say,
Orrin Burks, wait to force that fumble.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, it's special. It's special, you know, going into playoffs.
Speaker 8 (35:44):
I played in a lot of playoff games before that,
and I just remember myself telling myself that week, just
find a way to make a player is going to
change the game. And what better way to change the
game than the opening kickoff, forcing the fun will getting
the ball out and we go down to drive start
and score right there, just to get a quick jump
on it. Setting the tone for the playoffs the place.
Like again, the play style that we wanted to have,
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the physicality that we wanted to have. It's super cool.
I still get like d ms every once in a while,
Like I'll never forget that, you know, that play that
you were talking about, the opening kickoff of the of
the Packers game. So yeah, just definitely still feel the love,
you know, from from Philly fans and beyond, you know,
for you know, making a play that you know change
the game.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
But yeah, just just a really cool moment.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
All right, a few wild card topics now for Orrin Berks,
who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
And why obviously Michael Jordan.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Just like his competitiveness, you know, that's that's hard to emulate,
and just like his his his drive to hold the
others around him accountable. The same with Kobe, like kind
of that that mindset. So yeah, I probably have to
go with those two Jordans in Kobe.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You earned your degree at Vanderbilt. Do you know what
you want to do after football?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Yeah, I'm you know, figuring it out. I do a
little bit of real styling side, but I really enjoy
this business, the critical thinking around that, using business tactics
to attack social problems and create change in the community.
So definitely things around that. That's that's kind of what
I'm looking at. But you know, I'm enjoying my time
in the league, and you know, I'll have so many
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doors that are going to be opened, you know, when
when the time comes after I retire.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
But I just focus on now.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
If I'm not mistaken. Your wife was a college volleyball player.
How did you two meet?
Speaker 8 (37:33):
Yeah, we met through FCA, so we did a joint
fellowship called One City, One God. She was one of
the leaders for Belmont and I was one for Vanderbilt,
and we had lipscumb Tribeca, Fisk. There's so many schools
right there in Nashville, so planning that and yeah, just
ended up meeting her and didn't want to be the
guy that, you know, hitting on girls at FCA. But
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you know, that's that's ultimately where you want to find
somebody that has like like minded and you know, ultimately
we have a beautiful family now, been mary s years
and a little girl, and it's it's just it's a
beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Aside from sports, what are you good at?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I feel like I'm good with people.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
I truly enjoy the team aspect of sport, and I
try to carry that into my relationships with my wife,
with my friends, with my family, and just try to
pull the best out of people. So that's I feel
like that's what I'm good at all.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Right, final fun fact for Orrin Burks. This one's kind
of deep. If you could meet anyone in history, living
or deceased, who would that person be?
Speaker 8 (38:34):
Yeah, probably be probably Jackie Robinson. Most people don't know.
That's the reason I wear forty two. So coming to
the league, you have to have a forty or fifty
number to be linebacker, and you know that was presented.
You know that thought would be cool to pay homage to,
you know, one of the first black athletes in professional sports,
and like all that he had to go through, the
mental fortitude that he carried and the poise that he
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carried as well. So I feel like that would be
really cool to hear his story.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Like first, I love it and I will definitely mention
it the next time number forty two makes a tackle
Orren Burt's appreciate your time, best of luck the rest
of the year.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's going to do it for this episode of the
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