June 12, 2025 • 24 mins
On this week's episode, Browns PBP Voice Andrew Siciliano and Jason Gibbs break down everything from Browns Mandatory Minicamp Day 1. They'll dive into the standout plays, top performers, and analyze all of the action! All that plus Andrew sits down with All-Pro OT Jack Conklin! He'll share his insights on the team's progress, his personal outlook for the season, and what mandatory minicamp means for the squad.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As an offensive line. We work in such unison with
five guys. When one guy's lacking, the whole unit is
going to look bad. And we have to have that
account bolity, starting from the coach who's going to push
us no matter what. Even the older guys to expect
that accountability and that unison with the group. And that's
something that we were lacking last year and so far
this year looks like we have that back.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We're back because it's mandatory. Welcome to another edition of
the best podcast available that is Jason Gibbs, my giant.
I am Andrew Siciliano. We are wearing shades for now
because it is a beautiful day here at the Cross
Country Mortgage Campus and the sun is coming in and out,
in and out of the clouds. So right now we
probably don't need them, and it looks as if we're
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doing this for the bit, but eventually I think I
think we will. But the sun was shining today. Yeah, Bait,
great to.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
See you, by the way, I see you, buddy, very
lash weather.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is it is. The sun was shining today on
the Browns and on the rookie quarterbacks and on Mason
Graham getting work in with Miles Garrett, who is here
as it is mandatory, OTA's David Djoku. All your familiar
faces are here. While there might be other teams in
the AFC North that do not have their big names
in their respective buildings. Today it was good to get
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the entire band together for day.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
One, absolutely, and everybody was here on Monday at five
point fifteen for the mandatory team meeting. Everybody was in
place and out on the field today and got some
great work in. We saw a lot of eleven on
eleven's seven on seven session. To wrap things up here
comes a lot of spell Yeah, you're right. A lot
of special teams work as well today. So a great
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day out here at the Cross Country Mortgage Camp.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Let's talk about the quarterbacks because I have no doubt
that that is probably what you want us to get to. First,
Joe Flacco did not get a lot of work. Kevin
Stefanski said after practice that that was by design. You
need to see Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders and Kenny
Pickett get more work as OTAs are done, and we
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saw a different level of intensity. I think it's fair
to say we saw that level of intensity here today
at mandatory mini camp, which is the final work before
training camp. We're good with Flacco, you know what he
can do. Let's see, for example today shaud Or Sanders
working in with some guys Gibbie that might actually be
on the field Week one against the Bengals, and I
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thought he quitted himself fairly well.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did well. And I think him and Dylan Gabriel, we
saw a couple of nice throws from both guys today.
I think probably a few throws it both would want back. Obviously,
a lot of people talking about the deep ball from
Shador on seven on seven yep, and did a nice
job there, But it was Kenny Pickett number one, it
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was Dylan Gabriel number two, and it was Shadoor Sanders
number three in terms of how they went in order.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Today we also saw Deontae Johnson for the first time,
the former Steeler, the former Raven, the former Panther, and
the former Texan wide receiver. Obviously also from Toledo or
at least played his college football at Toledo and started
with the Steelers. He was signed to a contract as
a free agent, no guaranteed money. If it hits, it's
a lottery ticket. First work out here for him today.
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He looks the part. He's still very much wearing number sixteen.
Looks like Deontay Johnson. He could move, he's got the quicks.
He looks the part. He also dropped a pass obviously
in team drills where it hit him in the hands,
and rookie linebacker Carson Swesssinger was kind of lingering there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I believe that Deontay thought, you know, if there was
contact allowed, he might have been on his back relatively quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There is some russ perhaps to be shaken off. Jamari Thrash, however,
looked good. The second year receiver out of Louisville, had
a touchdown from Dylan Gabriel in the corner of the
end zone where he went up high and he brought
it down. Gabriel said afterwards, maybe the call is for
his zone beaters. You get man, he made the play.
So Jamori Thrash in year two and you always want
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to see that biggest leap from year one to year
two for any player at any position. Early returns are
fairly good.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's put on some weight, yes, it hasn't impacted his speed.
He had the touchdown catch, but he had a couple
others as well in eleven on eleven's that were pretty
impressive buying for that third wide receiver spot. You know,
I mean we're talking about Jerry Judy, We're talking about
Cedric Tillman, who was not on the field today and
wasn't on the field last week. Didn't see Mike Woods today.
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But and then you know who's that number three, if
not number two wide receiver and there's a big competition.
Jamori Thrash made a little statement today, I thought.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
On the defensive side, had do a body break up
of pass, had the monte Casey break up of pass
as well. A nice day, had a nice day where
number twenty three the number he wore in Pittsburgh as well.
Also today saw of the first time the interaction between
Miles Garrett and Mason Graham. They finally got to get
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on the field. They got on the field rather together.
Saw some smiles, saw some laughs. Didn't see Miles doing
much when it came to drills, but did see Mason
Graham working with Jacques's Air and the other d lineman
Beliek Collins as well. Wearing ninety six. If you're scoring
at home, the former San Francisco forty nine. Er saw
Mason Graham working on what looked like some outside pass
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rush drills. The guy's got the quicks he again, unassuming
walking through the building or walking if you catch them
on Brown Social into the building from the parking lot.
You stand here field level. Mason Graham can move, yeah,
absolutely move. He can bend, he can move. He's got
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some some of those fast twitch fibers that Miles Garrett has.
I mean, you really kind of saw it a little
bit today. It's tough to get a read on offensive
lineman defensive linemans. I think we're all interested on the
offense of line side, what Zech's enter looks like. And
Luke Whippler, you know, how are those guys here a
year removed from their injuries and you know, a rough
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rookie year for Zach. But defensively on the defensive line,
it's a deep it's a deep room. It might be
the best group of any position on this football team,
whether it's the ends or inside of tackles. And Mason
Graham did an outstanding job today. I liked what I
saw from the ends and the tackles in the individual piers.
Now it's individual it's no contact, but like what you see.
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When Nathan and I were doing CVD Cleveland Browns Daily
a couple of weeks ago, he asked me which position
group I feel most comfortable with. Most people would would
say wide receiver as the one that maybe they don't
feel comfortable with. A lot of people would say corner
perhaps for the one that they feel best about. Corners
A good answer, I said, d line. Now, I know
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not everyone agrees with me, but if you look at
this's and Isaiah Maguire had last year, especially against the run.
I know the sack numbers weren't there, but against the run,
he was a top five going on PFF rankings defensive
lineman in the league against the run. To see him
out there today, to see how it's right out there today,
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To see Miles Garrett out there today, Obo Obo out there,
Bryon Tryanka and Malik Collins, you throwing Mason Graham. There
is depth here. I need to see the production. You
need to see the sack numbers from somebody other than
ninety five. But I like the depth in that room.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah one percent. I think our defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz
has to be thinking the same thing. Same with Jaxi's there.
I like what we got here. We got a lot
of guys there. There could be some tough decisions in
training camp in terms of getting down on the number,
especially if a younger guy makes a mark early on
in training camp. And uh, you like what you see defense.
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I mean, the coaches are all back from the secondary,
some of those young safeties. Chris Edmonds is a guy
I think that worth watching at the safety spot. With
a nice mix of the vets with Hickman and Delpit,
and then you know the secondary with MJ who I
think has a bounce back year, and Denzel and Newsome
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and some of those younger dbs that we've taken over
the last couple of years in later rounds of the draft.
Excited to see what that defense looks like. The questions
are on the offensive side of the football.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's only day one a mandatory mini camp. Gibbee said,
a very special teams forward practice here today, especially the
second half of practice. Miles Garrett spoke, Dylan Gabriel, Shador Sanders,
Kevin Sefancy all spoke. After practice. We'll do a quick
summary of what we took from those press conferences.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Before we do.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That, however, let's focus on that offensive line. You know,
Joel Botonio is back. Obviously that is huge. It is
also huge as well to have a healthy right tackle
coming back and a good one as well. As practice ended,
had a chance to talk to Jack Conklin. Jack Conklin,
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welcome to the ten year club. Yeah, it's crazy, that feel,
it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Still feels like, you know, first couple of years of
the years just fly by, but it still feel fresh
in my mind and fresh.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Moving overall more importantly, like how do you physically feel?
Last year is a bit of a grind? Yeah, right,
you got back on the field. You made it through.
Like as you head into year ten house, the body.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Feels good, feels good.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, Actually having an actual off season where I
just get to lift and run and not have to
rehab is always great. And it's usually about the year
after an injury that you really start getting feeling really well.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How good is it to return to a normal off
season and not have to go through that rehab process.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's fantastic, you know, mentally and just and physically, just
being able to focus on all the lifting and not
having to do the rehabbing on top of at all
this say is really just a good recharge.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Everybody said that the OTA's had a little bit of
a different intensitive Speaking of Grant Delpit last week, he said,
obviously that's been kind of the emphasis. He used the
word lacks to describe last year and that this year
you had to pick it up. Does that carry over
I know it's only one day, but does that carry
over to mandatory mini camp?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Definitely?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I would say even more necessarily say intensity, but just
being on it, being on it, more accountability, more resilience
through the place. Everybody is expected to finish and if
you're not, you know, it's it's not only the coaches
are going to get on you with the players, and
I think that accountability is something that we've needed and
it's starting to show up.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Accountability. I've heard the word a lot. You've heard the
word a lot. I'd assume this year different than last.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Just I think it's more of a sense of urgency
with it. You know, we've always talked about it, but
now it's more of a we got to do this.
You know this is it wasn't enough last year and
it's an emphasis. Now it's more it's not just a
talking point. It's something that we're getting shown every day,
and it's it's when you're not being accountable or then
your teammates are, you're gonna get pulled up on the
team meeting, You're gonna get talked about and expected to
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be held accountable by the team and your teammate.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Did you have any role in talking Joel Buttonio back?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I didn't think Joel was gonna retire anyway, So you
really didn't think so, no, no, no, I didn't think.
So he's still got some left in the tank. And uh,
you know, it's tough. You're not once you're done with this,
you're never gonna get it back. So it's something that's
I think it's a lot harder than people think to
just for guys to put it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Up, he said, And he said this last week of
the golf tournament that Mike Blugren, your new old line coach,
did have a big role in talking Joel back, and
he cursed, by the way. I'm not gonna repeat the curse,
but you heard the curse. He said that an offensive
line coach has to be a jerk, although he used
to where it started with a d is Mike Lungren
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that guy.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, you know he's gonna again. I think it's like
what we were talking about earlier. It's holding you to
the accountability and that standard. And as an offensive line,
we work in such unism of five. When one guy's lacking,
the whole unit is gonna look bad. And we have
to have that accountability starting from the coach who's gonna
push us no matter what. Even the older guys to
expect that accountability and that unison with the group. And
that's something that we were lacking last year and so
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far this year looks like we have that back.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Joel also said this feels like a twenty twenty twenty
twenty one install with what the offense feels like and
what it's going to look like in September. Do you
buy that feel that as well?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Definitely, it's huge. It's going back to really what coach
Ttefanski's known for, you know, and what he especially is
and frankly what I think this team's makeup specialty is.
And you know, we're really excited in the locker room,
really excited in the old line run to be getting
back to that offense.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I want to be careful here. I'm not you know,
tearing down last year. We're looking forward to this year.
You talked about accountability, He talked about the difference in
the in the run game. How refreshing is that though,
Like I mean, he mentioned you, he mentioned Wide obviously
Ethan as well at center Poet center. Like to get
back to what you know, you guys have done well, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's no better feeling, you know, after like obviously don't
want to look at the past, but after last year
it wasn't. It wasn't what we think of ourselves as
an offensive line and how we remove the ball, and
you know, that's something we have to look back on
and you know and look at ourselves and what we
had to do and but definitely having that refresh going
back to the offense. We've you know, frankly as me
and Joel and why it have been together for six
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years now and Poet four, so we know how to
run that offense. It's what we pride ourselves on doing.
And we're really excited to get back to that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Joel mentioned, Hey, we're older, it's not twenty twenty anymore.
You can't let doubt creep in. But I think there
are some people that say, hey, can this group still
do it? Like what do you have to do to
prove to yourselves and to prove to them that, yeah,
we can turn the clock back a little bit. At
the same time, Kevin always says it's about evolving and
moving forward as well, but like we can be as
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dominant as we were in those years.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, there's really no question from our mindsetting the offensive line,
we haven't taken a step back. It was a different
offense in our minds, and this is what we are,
this is what we were ProAb here to do, and
we're gonna get right back to that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Uh Nick Chubb appreciation conversation here? Do you have a
favorite Nick Chubb run? Can you pick one?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh geez, that's a tough one. I mean there's so many.
I think the one I always think back to is
the one versus the the uh said the Houston when
he ran out of bounds of the.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Three yard line.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I think that one her the one yard line
whatever it was, it was inside the five.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And I think it's more of not even that run
or his IQ, just his his mindset of putting the
team first, you know, no matter what you know, We
all know how good of a running back he is,
but he was always that team guy first, and it's
impressive to be, you know, as good of a player
as he is and still have that team mentality.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It's fair to say that everyone in this building is
rooting for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And yes, definite, yeah, definitely, definitely want to wish him
nothing but the best. And I'm gonna really miss him
around here.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You ever had another teammate like him at all?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I've had some good team I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, uh,
as far as running backs goes, I would say Derek
Henry and him are very similar learn how they approach
the game, and both they're guys that you know, people
have said they gotten older, they've lost a step, and
Derek showed in last year and I think Nick's canna
do the same thing this year.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's talk about the new running backs there. What do
you see from Judkins and Samson so far?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know, they got the juice. I'm excited to see that.
They're the most press thing I've seen so far is
their ability to come in here and be coachable. You know,
they're not they're not front runners. They're not out there
trying to talk a bunch about how good they are,
but they're just coming in here and every day listening
to the deuce and getting better day in and day out.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And now the obligatory Jack Conklin quarterback question, what do
you see from that group?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know, it's like I said, it's it's beginning. It's
just the beginning here still, and you only if you
have four guys going in and out, so it's gonna
be something that obviously goes into camp. And but there's
a lot of talent and it's looking good so far.
The guys are all buying in again, and uh, we're
just gonna see how it rolls. But I'm excited to
see whoever comes out ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's more of a Poe and a Luke Whipler question
than it is a Jack Conklin question. But does it
affect the rest of the old line who is back
there stylistically or when that decision could hypothetically be made
before week one?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Maybe a little bit, but not too much, because I
mean we're not changing the offense depending on the quarterback,
so it's all pretty similar. I think some of the
younger guys are still figuring out just how to work
the cadence get the rhythms right, which is something that's
gonna take a little bit. It's new, especially being under center.
Some of these guys coming from college haven't been under
center a lot, so you know there's some growing pains,
but that's for everybody when they're rookie coming in and
they're doing a good job taking the criticism and getting
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better every day.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Finally, Friday, school's out for summer. What do you got big,
big vacation plans, doing anything, taking the family anywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Going to the in laws. Audia's nothing crazy, but it'll
be fine. The kids are excited.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Nice summer at the in laws, and then back at it.
The third week is a lot. Jack Conklin, good to
see you out here, Good to see you healthy. Enjoy
that that time off.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A couple more days of work and then yeah, we'll
get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Beautiful looking forward to gird with. Jack Conklin had to
say his favorite Nick Chubb play, running out of Bounds
there in Houston. We all have our favorites. I went
down that rabbit hole. When the news finally bro again,
we knew it was proba happen that Nick was going
to the Texans and you just go down that rabbit hole.
Brown Social did such a great job posting highlights and
you just go, wow, I forgot that one. I forgot
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that seventy yard touchdown. Wow, I forgot that stiff arm.
I forgot that time it looked like he was hemmed
in on the sideline and still ended up going fifty yards.
Like it hurts my heart, and I have no problem
saying this that Nick Chubb is going to be a
Houston Texan. You knew it was going there that direction.
It still hurts to actually see it happen. But like
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what Miles Garrett said today, Gibbe, when someone intimated to him,
while you're gonna be rooting against him, that wasn't exactly
the question. He's like, no, no, no, no, I will
always be rooting for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I think this whole city will be rooting for him. Yeah,
as long as they're not playing the Browns, They're totally
gonna be rooting for him. How can you not root
for him? He's one of us.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yes, that's the best way to say it. I think.
Go back and read his letter that he wrote to
the city and to the fans before his Week seven
return last year against the Bengals where he got in
the end zone. Just read that letter and feel the
connection like he'll always be a Brown and I hope
he does great. Hope he does great in Houston. We
don't play the Texans this year, right, Nope? Correct? So
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uh unless it's in the playoffs, which would be great
to bring it back from twenty twenty three and face
them in the postseason. Don't want to linger too much
on Nick. We have a lot of time to talk
about I think everyone we all feel the same way.
Miles did talk about Nick today and said I thought
it was noteworthy that he lobbied the front office to
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bring Nick back. Obviously that didn't happen. There wasn't a
huge market. I think that's why we waited until here
the end of mandatory medicamp for Nick to find a job.
But Miles also said that without Nick, yes he does
need to pick up some of that leadership slack, if
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you will, But it wasn't just that Nick Chubb is leaving.
He said he will meet the challenge from both Kevin
Stefanski and Andrew Berry and for that matter, Jimmy Haslam
as well. Schwartz and Jim Schwartz LXT week he will
meet that challenge, and he said, when Jim Schwartz says
I think he's gonna have his best season ever, he said, yeah,
I think I am too perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We need that. We're going to need him and depend
on him a lot. Right now. He is the face
of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I mean offensively, we're still looking through and working through
some things. Defensively, it's our strong suit. Who's the best
player in the defense. Well, he's also the best player
two years removed from being the defensive player of the
Year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's Miles Garrett, and one can make the argument that
with a number of advanced metrics, he had a better
season last year than he did the year correct four.
Obviously a three to fourteen team, and the sack numbers
weren't the same. Trey Hendrickson won the sack title. You're
not gonna win depl Why it's hard to win that
award two years in a row. But some of the
advanced metrics I mentioned them earlier with Maguire at him.
For Miles, he had a very good year, but he
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knows that he has to take it to another level
with the contract come responsibilities. But it's more than just
the contract. With the idea that he is the leader
of this team, period come greater responsibility. Jim Schwartz made
the Spider Man analogy. You could follow on that whatever
whatever comic or movie you want to use. I think
Miles understands what is in front of him here today.
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The Nick Chubb lobbying stuff, I thought that was interesting.
There was good stuff there as well about Aaron Rodgers.
Did you catch that little.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Graveyard conversation build the Halloween display?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He was asked, what do you have a big fan?
What do you think of Aaron Rodgers in the AFC
dorth And he said, what do I think another quarterback?
Dad to the graveyard? Or I'm going to put him
in the graveyard, something like that. I think social media.
If you don't know Miles whole Halloween front yard deal,
immediately thought, oh, he's going to kill Aaron Rodgers. No,
he just means let's add him. I want to I
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want to add them, Let's have some sacks exactly. And
week five when the Browns returned, No. Week six a
big card. When the Browns returned from London without a bye,
It's a bust down to your favorite town, Pittsburgh to
face Aaron Rodgers. Assuming it's Aaron Rodgers for.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The first hate that bus ride. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Assuming Rogers is still the Steelers quarterback. When the Steelers
come here in December, it'll be Aaron rodgers first game
in Cleveland as a starting quarterback. And I think sixteen years,
because when the Jets came in after Christmas in twenty
twenty three, the Thursday night game to clinch the playoffs,
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Rogers was hurt.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And in seventeen or yes, seventeen, when we went out
in sixteen we played the Packers, Rogers was hurt. I
thought we were gonna win that game.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, not so much faced him in twenty up there, No,
in twenty one up there, but again yes Rogers, yes
Rogers here. It'll be the first time in sixteen years.
We could worry about that at a much later time.
Anything else stand out today from Miles.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, not at all. I mean, you know, I know
coach Spoke Shador and Dylan Gabriel continue to win the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Podium, absolutely win the podium.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They both they both can very different yeah, very different ways,
but they both navigate the questions with extreme ease.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Remember the old SNL bit deep thoughts with Jack Handy Boy.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Do I have a few off the top of my head,
and none are qualified or acceptable for this point.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They both have deep thoughts, and I mean that in
a complimentary way, or I mean that as a compliment
a bigger pardon. They're both very different people, but there
is substance in everything they say. They are not spitting
cliches at you. They're saying the right things. And I
think they're growing, both of them on the field every
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they are legitimately getting better. I think that's that's your headline.
No one is winning a quarterback job in June, whether
it's a rookie or like. No one is winning a
quarterback job. This is a legitimate quarterback battle. No one
is winning it right now. Don't believe and I mean this,
don't believe anyone who tells you that somebody right now
is winning the quarterback job.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No one right now is winning the quarterback job. No
one will win this quarterback job until August. There are
three preseason games, there are multiple joint practices with two
different teams. That is when this quarterback job will be won.
But both of those guys and Kenny Pickett as well.
But the rookies are the ones that you guys care
about most. I understand that, we understand that those guys
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are growing and getting better every day, but they have
been at a near all pro level from day one
on the podium.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah. Again, they had good throws today, they had some
throws they want back. Good news. There'll be a walkthrough
out here on Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday you get another
shot to come back out and fix the wrongs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah. Shador was asked about working on something tomorrow. Whatever. Hey, Hey,
I'm I'm right now focused on the walk through.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This a smart man, one thing at a time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Absolutely, Hey what are you doing on your on your
month off? I'm focused on the walkthrough this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
My golf game.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Your golf game, it's average, your best Yep, well I
haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But it's all right. I've been told maybe one.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Day, maybe one day, that is Jason Gibbs average golfer
for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Boy, that's a compliment.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
My name is Andrew Siciliano. We thank you for listening, watching, liking, subscribing,
and sharing this the best podcast Eve
As an offensive line. We work in such unison with
five guys. When one guy's lacking, the whole unit is
going to look bad. And we have to have that
account bolity, starting from the coach who's going to push
us no matter what. Even the older guys to expect
that accountability and that unison with the group. And that's
something that we were lacking last year and so far
this year looks like we have that back.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We're back because it's mandatory. Welcome to another edition of
the best podcast available that is Jason Gibbs, my giant.
I am Andrew Siciliano. We are wearing shades for now
because it is a beautiful day here at the Cross
Country Mortgage Campus and the sun is coming in and out,
in and out of the clouds. So right now we
probably don't need them, and it looks as if we're
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doing this for the bit, but eventually I think I
think we will. But the sun was shining today. Yeah, Bait,
great to.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
See you, by the way, I see you, buddy, very
lash weather.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is it is. The sun was shining today on
the Browns and on the rookie quarterbacks and on Mason
Graham getting work in with Miles Garrett, who is here
as it is mandatory, OTA's David Djoku. All your familiar
faces are here. While there might be other teams in
the AFC North that do not have their big names
in their respective buildings. Today it was good to get
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the entire band together for day.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
One, absolutely, and everybody was here on Monday at five
point fifteen for the mandatory team meeting. Everybody was in
place and out on the field today and got some
great work in. We saw a lot of eleven on
eleven's seven on seven session. To wrap things up here
comes a lot of spell Yeah, you're right. A lot
of special teams work as well today. So a great
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day out here at the Cross Country Mortgage Camp.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Let's talk about the quarterbacks because I have no doubt
that that is probably what you want us to get to. First,
Joe Flacco did not get a lot of work. Kevin
Stefanski said after practice that that was by design. You
need to see Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders and Kenny
Pickett get more work as OTAs are done, and we
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saw a different level of intensity. I think it's fair
to say we saw that level of intensity here today
at mandatory mini camp, which is the final work before
training camp. We're good with Flacco, you know what he
can do. Let's see, for example today shaud Or Sanders
working in with some guys Gibbie that might actually be
on the field Week one against the Bengals, and I
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thought he quitted himself fairly well.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did well. And I think him and Dylan Gabriel, we
saw a couple of nice throws from both guys today.
I think probably a few throws it both would want back. Obviously,
a lot of people talking about the deep ball from
Shador on seven on seven yep, and did a nice
job there, But it was Kenny Pickett number one, it
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was Dylan Gabriel number two, and it was Shadoor Sanders
number three in terms of how they went in order.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Today we also saw Deontae Johnson for the first time,
the former Steeler, the former Raven, the former Panther, and
the former Texan wide receiver. Obviously also from Toledo or
at least played his college football at Toledo and started
with the Steelers. He was signed to a contract as
a free agent, no guaranteed money. If it hits, it's
a lottery ticket. First work out here for him today.
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He looks the part. He's still very much wearing number sixteen.
Looks like Deontay Johnson. He could move, he's got the quicks.
He looks the part. He also dropped a pass obviously
in team drills where it hit him in the hands,
and rookie linebacker Carson Swesssinger was kind of lingering there.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I believe that Deontay thought, you know, if there was
contact allowed, he might have been on his back relatively quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There is some russ perhaps to be shaken off. Jamari Thrash, however,
looked good. The second year receiver out of Louisville, had
a touchdown from Dylan Gabriel in the corner of the
end zone where he went up high and he brought
it down. Gabriel said afterwards, maybe the call is for
his zone beaters. You get man, he made the play.
So Jamori Thrash in year two and you always want
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to see that biggest leap from year one to year
two for any player at any position. Early returns are
fairly good.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's put on some weight, yes, it hasn't impacted his speed.
He had the touchdown catch, but he had a couple
others as well in eleven on eleven's that were pretty
impressive buying for that third wide receiver spot. You know,
I mean we're talking about Jerry Judy, We're talking about
Cedric Tillman, who was not on the field today and
wasn't on the field last week. Didn't see Mike Woods today.
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But and then you know who's that number three, if
not number two wide receiver and there's a big competition.
Jamori Thrash made a little statement today, I thought.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
On the defensive side, had do a body break up
of pass, had the monte Casey break up of pass
as well. A nice day, had a nice day where
number twenty three the number he wore in Pittsburgh as well.
Also today saw of the first time the interaction between
Miles Garrett and Mason Graham. They finally got to get
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on the field. They got on the field rather together.
Saw some smiles, saw some laughs. Didn't see Miles doing
much when it came to drills, but did see Mason
Graham working with Jacques's Air and the other d lineman
Beliek Collins as well. Wearing ninety six. If you're scoring
at home, the former San Francisco forty nine. Er saw
Mason Graham working on what looked like some outside pass
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rush drills. The guy's got the quicks he again, unassuming
walking through the building or walking if you catch them
on Brown Social into the building from the parking lot.
You stand here field level. Mason Graham can move, yeah,
absolutely move. He can bend, he can move. He's got
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some some of those fast twitch fibers that Miles Garrett has.
I mean, you really kind of saw it a little
bit today. It's tough to get a read on offensive
lineman defensive linemans. I think we're all interested on the
offense of line side, what Zech's enter looks like. And
Luke Whippler, you know, how are those guys here a
year removed from their injuries and you know, a rough
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rookie year for Zach. But defensively on the defensive line,
it's a deep it's a deep room. It might be
the best group of any position on this football team,
whether it's the ends or inside of tackles. And Mason
Graham did an outstanding job today. I liked what I
saw from the ends and the tackles in the individual piers.
Now it's individual it's no contact, but like what you see.
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When Nathan and I were doing CVD Cleveland Browns Daily
a couple of weeks ago, he asked me which position
group I feel most comfortable with. Most people would would
say wide receiver as the one that maybe they don't
feel comfortable with. A lot of people would say corner
perhaps for the one that they feel best about. Corners
A good answer, I said, d line. Now, I know
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not everyone agrees with me, but if you look at
this's and Isaiah Maguire had last year, especially against the run.
I know the sack numbers weren't there, but against the run,
he was a top five going on PFF rankings defensive
lineman in the league against the run. To see him
out there today, to see how it's right out there today,
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To see Miles Garrett out there today, Obo Obo out there,
Bryon Tryanka and Malik Collins, you throwing Mason Graham. There
is depth here. I need to see the production. You
need to see the sack numbers from somebody other than
ninety five. But I like the depth in that room.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah one percent. I think our defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz
has to be thinking the same thing. Same with Jaxi's there.
I like what we got here. We got a lot
of guys there. There could be some tough decisions in
training camp in terms of getting down on the number,
especially if a younger guy makes a mark early on
in training camp. And uh, you like what you see defense.
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I mean, the coaches are all back from the secondary,
some of those young safeties. Chris Edmonds is a guy
I think that worth watching at the safety spot. With
a nice mix of the vets with Hickman and Delpit,
and then you know the secondary with MJ who I
think has a bounce back year, and Denzel and Newsome
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and some of those younger dbs that we've taken over
the last couple of years in later rounds of the draft.
Excited to see what that defense looks like. The questions
are on the offensive side of the football.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's only day one a mandatory mini camp. Gibbee said,
a very special teams forward practice here today, especially the
second half of practice. Miles Garrett spoke, Dylan Gabriel, Shador Sanders,
Kevin Sefancy all spoke. After practice. We'll do a quick
summary of what we took from those press conferences.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Before we do.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That, however, let's focus on that offensive line. You know,
Joel Botonio is back. Obviously that is huge. It is
also huge as well to have a healthy right tackle
coming back and a good one as well. As practice ended,
had a chance to talk to Jack Conklin. Jack Conklin,
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welcome to the ten year club. Yeah, it's crazy, that feel,
it's crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Still feels like, you know, first couple of years of
the years just fly by, but it still feel fresh
in my mind and fresh.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Moving overall more importantly, like how do you physically feel?
Last year is a bit of a grind? Yeah, right,
you got back on the field. You made it through.
Like as you head into year ten house, the body.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Feels good, feels good.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, Actually having an actual off season where I
just get to lift and run and not have to
rehab is always great. And it's usually about the year
after an injury that you really start getting feeling really well.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How good is it to return to a normal off
season and not have to go through that rehab process.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It's fantastic, you know, mentally and just and physically, just
being able to focus on all the lifting and not
having to do the rehabbing on top of at all
this say is really just a good recharge.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Everybody said that the OTA's had a little bit of
a different intensitive Speaking of Grant Delpit last week, he said,
obviously that's been kind of the emphasis. He used the
word lacks to describe last year and that this year
you had to pick it up. Does that carry over
I know it's only one day, but does that carry
over to mandatory mini camp?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Definitely?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I would say even more necessarily say intensity, but just
being on it, being on it, more accountability, more resilience
through the place. Everybody is expected to finish and if
you're not, you know, it's it's not only the coaches
are going to get on you with the players, and
I think that accountability is something that we've needed and
it's starting to show up.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Accountability. I've heard the word a lot. You've heard the
word a lot. I'd assume this year different than last.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Just I think it's more of a sense of urgency
with it. You know, we've always talked about it, but
now it's more of a we got to do this.
You know this is it wasn't enough last year and
it's an emphasis. Now it's more it's not just a
talking point. It's something that we're getting shown every day,
and it's it's when you're not being accountable or then
your teammates are, you're gonna get pulled up on the
team meeting, You're gonna get talked about and expected to
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be held accountable by the team and your teammate.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Did you have any role in talking Joel Buttonio back?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I didn't think Joel was gonna retire anyway, So you
really didn't think so, no, no, no, I didn't think.
So he's still got some left in the tank. And uh,
you know, it's tough. You're not once you're done with this,
you're never gonna get it back. So it's something that's
I think it's a lot harder than people think to
just for guys to put it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Up, he said, And he said this last week of
the golf tournament that Mike Blugren, your new old line coach,
did have a big role in talking Joel back, and
he cursed, by the way. I'm not gonna repeat the curse,
but you heard the curse. He said that an offensive
line coach has to be a jerk, although he used
to where it started with a d is Mike Lungren
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that guy.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yes, you know he's gonna again. I think it's like
what we were talking about earlier. It's holding you to
the accountability and that standard. And as an offensive line,
we work in such unism of five. When one guy's lacking,
the whole unit is gonna look bad. And we have
to have that accountability starting from the coach who's gonna
push us no matter what. Even the older guys to
expect that accountability and that unison with the group. And
that's something that we were lacking last year and so
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far this year looks like we have that back.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Joel also said this feels like a twenty twenty twenty
twenty one install with what the offense feels like and
what it's going to look like in September. Do you
buy that feel that as well?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Definitely, it's huge. It's going back to really what coach
Ttefanski's known for, you know, and what he especially is
and frankly what I think this team's makeup specialty is.
And you know, we're really excited in the locker room,
really excited in the old line run to be getting
back to that offense.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I want to be careful here. I'm not you know,
tearing down last year. We're looking forward to this year.
You talked about accountability, He talked about the difference in
the in the run game. How refreshing is that though,
Like I mean, he mentioned you, he mentioned Wide obviously
Ethan as well at center Poet center. Like to get
back to what you know, you guys have done well, it's.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's no better feeling, you know, after like obviously don't
want to look at the past, but after last year
it wasn't. It wasn't what we think of ourselves as
an offensive line and how we remove the ball, and
you know, that's something we have to look back on
and you know and look at ourselves and what we
had to do and but definitely having that refresh going
back to the offense. We've you know, frankly as me
and Joel and why it have been together for six
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years now and Poet four, so we know how to
run that offense. It's what we pride ourselves on doing.
And we're really excited to get back to that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Joel mentioned, Hey, we're older, it's not twenty twenty anymore.
You can't let doubt creep in. But I think there
are some people that say, hey, can this group still
do it? Like what do you have to do to
prove to yourselves and to prove to them that, yeah,
we can turn the clock back a little bit. At
the same time, Kevin always says it's about evolving and
moving forward as well, but like we can be as
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dominant as we were in those years.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, there's really no question from our mindsetting the offensive line,
we haven't taken a step back. It was a different
offense in our minds, and this is what we are,
this is what we were ProAb here to do, and
we're gonna get right back to that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Uh Nick Chubb appreciation conversation here? Do you have a
favorite Nick Chubb run? Can you pick one?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Oh geez, that's a tough one. I mean there's so many.
I think the one I always think back to is
the one versus the the uh said the Houston when
he ran out of bounds of the.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Three yard line.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, I think that one her the one yard line
whatever it was, it was inside the five.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And I think it's more of not even that run
or his IQ, just his his mindset of putting the
team first, you know, no matter what you know, We
all know how good of a running back he is,
but he was always that team guy first, and it's
impressive to be, you know, as good of a player
as he is and still have that team mentality.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It's fair to say that everyone in this building is
rooting for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And yes, definite, yeah, definitely, definitely want to wish him
nothing but the best. And I'm gonna really miss him
around here.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You ever had another teammate like him at all?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I've had some good team I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, uh,
as far as running backs goes, I would say Derek
Henry and him are very similar learn how they approach
the game, and both they're guys that you know, people
have said they gotten older, they've lost a step, and
Derek showed in last year and I think Nick's canna
do the same thing this year.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Let's talk about the new running backs there. What do
you see from Judkins and Samson so far?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You know, they got the juice. I'm excited to see that.
They're the most press thing I've seen so far is
their ability to come in here and be coachable. You know,
they're not they're not front runners. They're not out there
trying to talk a bunch about how good they are,
but they're just coming in here and every day listening
to the deuce and getting better day in and day out.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And now the obligatory Jack Conklin quarterback question, what do
you see from that group?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know, it's like I said, it's it's beginning. It's
just the beginning here still, and you only if you
have four guys going in and out, so it's gonna
be something that obviously goes into camp. And but there's
a lot of talent and it's looking good so far.
The guys are all buying in again, and uh, we're
just gonna see how it rolls. But I'm excited to
see whoever comes out ahead.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's more of a Poe and a Luke Whipler question
than it is a Jack Conklin question. But does it
affect the rest of the old line who is back
there stylistically or when that decision could hypothetically be made
before week one?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Maybe a little bit, but not too much, because I
mean we're not changing the offense depending on the quarterback,
so it's all pretty similar. I think some of the
younger guys are still figuring out just how to work
the cadence get the rhythms right, which is something that's
gonna take a little bit. It's new, especially being under center.
Some of these guys coming from college haven't been under
center a lot, so you know there's some growing pains,
but that's for everybody when they're rookie coming in and
they're doing a good job taking the criticism and getting
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better every day.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Finally, Friday, school's out for summer. What do you got big,
big vacation plans, doing anything, taking the family anywhere.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Going to the in laws. Audia's nothing crazy, but it'll
be fine. The kids are excited.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Nice summer at the in laws, and then back at it.
The third week is a lot. Jack Conklin, good to
see you out here, Good to see you healthy. Enjoy
that that time off.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
A couple more days of work and then yeah, we'll
get to that.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Beautiful looking forward to gird with. Jack Conklin had to
say his favorite Nick Chubb play, running out of Bounds
there in Houston. We all have our favorites. I went
down that rabbit hole. When the news finally bro again,
we knew it was proba happen that Nick was going
to the Texans and you just go down that rabbit hole.
Brown Social did such a great job posting highlights and
you just go, wow, I forgot that one. I forgot
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that seventy yard touchdown. Wow, I forgot that stiff arm.
I forgot that time it looked like he was hemmed
in on the sideline and still ended up going fifty yards.
Like it hurts my heart, and I have no problem
saying this that Nick Chubb is going to be a
Houston Texan. You knew it was going there that direction.
It still hurts to actually see it happen. But like
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what Miles Garrett said today, Gibbe, when someone intimated to him,
while you're gonna be rooting against him, that wasn't exactly
the question. He's like, no, no, no, no, I will
always be rooting for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I think this whole city will be rooting for him. Yeah,
as long as they're not playing the Browns, They're totally
gonna be rooting for him. How can you not root
for him? He's one of us.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yes, that's the best way to say it. I think.
Go back and read his letter that he wrote to
the city and to the fans before his Week seven
return last year against the Bengals where he got in
the end zone. Just read that letter and feel the
connection like he'll always be a Brown and I hope
he does great. Hope he does great in Houston. We
don't play the Texans this year, right, Nope? Correct? So
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uh unless it's in the playoffs, which would be great
to bring it back from twenty twenty three and face
them in the postseason. Don't want to linger too much
on Nick. We have a lot of time to talk
about I think everyone we all feel the same way.
Miles did talk about Nick today and said I thought
it was noteworthy that he lobbied the front office to
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bring Nick back. Obviously that didn't happen. There wasn't a
huge market. I think that's why we waited until here
the end of mandatory medicamp for Nick to find a job.
But Miles also said that without Nick, yes he does
need to pick up some of that leadership slack, if
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you will, But it wasn't just that Nick Chubb is leaving.
He said he will meet the challenge from both Kevin
Stefanski and Andrew Berry and for that matter, Jimmy Haslam
as well. Schwartz and Jim Schwartz LXT week he will
meet that challenge, and he said, when Jim Schwartz says
I think he's gonna have his best season ever, he said, yeah,
I think I am too perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We need that. We're going to need him and depend
on him a lot. Right now. He is the face
of the franchise.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yes, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I mean offensively, we're still looking through and working through
some things. Defensively, it's our strong suit. Who's the best
player in the defense. Well, he's also the best player
two years removed from being the defensive player of the
Year in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's Miles Garrett, and one can make the argument that
with a number of advanced metrics, he had a better
season last year than he did the year correct four.
Obviously a three to fourteen team, and the sack numbers
weren't the same. Trey Hendrickson won the sack title. You're
not gonna win depl Why it's hard to win that
award two years in a row. But some of the
advanced metrics I mentioned them earlier with Maguire at him.
For Miles, he had a very good year, but he
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knows that he has to take it to another level
with the contract come responsibilities. But it's more than just
the contract. With the idea that he is the leader
of this team, period come greater responsibility. Jim Schwartz made
the Spider Man analogy. You could follow on that whatever
whatever comic or movie you want to use. I think
Miles understands what is in front of him here today.
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The Nick Chubb lobbying stuff, I thought that was interesting.
There was good stuff there as well about Aaron Rodgers.
Did you catch that little.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Graveyard conversation build the Halloween display?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He was asked, what do you have a big fan?
What do you think of Aaron Rodgers in the AFC
dorth And he said, what do I think another quarterback?
Dad to the graveyard? Or I'm going to put him
in the graveyard, something like that. I think social media.
If you don't know Miles whole Halloween front yard deal,
immediately thought, oh, he's going to kill Aaron Rodgers. No,
he just means let's add him. I want to I
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want to add them, Let's have some sacks exactly. And
week five when the Browns returned, No. Week six a
big card. When the Browns returned from London without a bye,
It's a bust down to your favorite town, Pittsburgh to
face Aaron Rodgers. Assuming it's Aaron Rodgers for.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The first hate that bus ride. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Assuming Rogers is still the Steelers quarterback. When the Steelers
come here in December, it'll be Aaron rodgers first game
in Cleveland as a starting quarterback. And I think sixteen years,
because when the Jets came in after Christmas in twenty
twenty three, the Thursday night game to clinch the playoffs,
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Rogers was hurt.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And in seventeen or yes, seventeen, when we went out
in sixteen we played the Packers, Rogers was hurt. I
thought we were gonna win that game.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, not so much faced him in twenty up there, No,
in twenty one up there, but again yes Rogers, yes
Rogers here. It'll be the first time in sixteen years.
We could worry about that at a much later time.
Anything else stand out today from Miles.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
No, not at all. I mean, you know, I know
coach Spoke Shador and Dylan Gabriel continue to win the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Podium, absolutely win the podium.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
They both they both can very different yeah, very different ways,
but they both navigate the questions with extreme ease.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Remember the old SNL bit deep thoughts with Jack Handy Boy.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Do I have a few off the top of my head,
and none are qualified or acceptable for this point.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
They both have deep thoughts, and I mean that in
a complimentary way, or I mean that as a compliment
a bigger pardon. They're both very different people, but there
is substance in everything they say. They are not spitting
cliches at you. They're saying the right things. And I
think they're growing, both of them on the field every
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they are legitimately getting better. I think that's that's your headline.
No one is winning a quarterback job in June, whether
it's a rookie or like. No one is winning a
quarterback job. This is a legitimate quarterback battle. No one
is winning it right now. Don't believe and I mean this,
don't believe anyone who tells you that somebody right now
is winning the quarterback job.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No one right now is winning the quarterback job. No
one will win this quarterback job until August. There are
three preseason games, there are multiple joint practices with two
different teams. That is when this quarterback job will be won.
But both of those guys and Kenny Pickett as well.
But the rookies are the ones that you guys care
about most. I understand that, we understand that those guys
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are growing and getting better every day, but they have
been at a near all pro level from day one
on the podium.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah. Again, they had good throws today, they had some
throws they want back. Good news. There'll be a walkthrough
out here on Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday you get another
shot to come back out and fix the wrongs.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah. Shador was asked about working on something tomorrow. Whatever. Hey, Hey,
I'm I'm right now focused on the walk through.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This a smart man, one thing at a time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Absolutely, Hey what are you doing on your on your
month off? I'm focused on the walkthrough this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
My golf game.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Your golf game, it's average, your best Yep, well I
haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But it's all right. I've been told maybe one.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Day, maybe one day, that is Jason Gibbs average golfer
for sure.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Boy, that's a compliment.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
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