April 24, 2025 • 30 mins
It's the eve of the NFL Draft! Join us for our final Browns draft preview, breaking down potential picks, needs, and what to expect tomorrow. PLUS, we've got an exclusive interview with Browns Wide Receiver Cedric Tillman! Hear his insights on the upcoming draft, his off-season experience, and more. Don't miss this last deep dive before the Browns make their selections!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who don't want it. Number two said, let's just talk draft.
Browns are picking second, you're laughing. Come on, I know
you there's somebody you want. Who do you want? Cedra Tillman.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean I don't really know, you know, I I
don't really know. We all know who the top guys
are out there, you know. Rather we get help on
the office side of the ball, on the deep int
side of the ball, or whatever whoever we get at too,
I trust an organization is definitely gonna help our team out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Congratulations, you made it. We made it. Collectively, the NFL
Draft media industry has made it to Draft week. And
we are here, and we are happy, and we are
ready to turn in the stinking card. This is the
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best podcast available at the home office, at least for now.
We might do the switch O CHANGEO thing midway through
this pod. See if you could pick it up when
we actually do it. My name is Andrews Siciliado, back
of the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in beautiful Berea, Old.
It's actually beautiful this week. Give me, that's what you promised.
Megrees seventy can't let's goat to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's gonna be good man, Guardians with some big home
games this week. I'm assuming that maybe you try to
catch one once you come to our palatial estates.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's tough with the schedule. I mean, we're gonna be
burning the midnight oil. We're gonna be working around the
clock with your draft. So I don't know what time
is The Guardos game Wednesday is a matinee. As we
record this on Tuesday, after the opening of the Campsmith
Closer era on Monday night. Yeah, he made a face.
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He made a face.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Hold on, I believe, I believe someone on this podcast
might have had this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
This is not Guardos talk. But while we're here, let's
pay homage. Got my Tom Hamilton talking bubble.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I don't think the mic pick that up.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What's really hard? You got that? It is always good
to beat the Yankees. It's better when it's in October,
not in April. But I digress. Let's get to the draft.
As we record this, two things are happening. Number One,
the hay is for the most part in the barn.
You would have to think boards are set in terms
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of you know who you like, right, your board is set.
We know that no trades have been made, and everyone
still has their first round pick, including the Browns at
number two. That's on one side. On the other side,
the Browns social team and content team out and up
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bright and early this morning with cameras and iPhones at
the ready to capture the smiling faces of people like
Joe Flacco and Greg Newsom and Denzel Ward and Maachmod
Diabodi back in the building give a the off season
program has begun. Now people say, well, when can I
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see Joe Flacco throwing passes. You're not going to because
that's not what this is. This is not field work.
This is just working out. So be prepared for more
Miles Garrett shirtless videos doing things in the gym that
you can't even possibly wrap your head around. There's a
lot of that. But what it does signal is that
football is slowly but surely forget about the draft getting
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here because the kids are back at school.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The ball is starting to roll slowly at the top
of the hill, and it gets a little faster, it
gets a little faster, and then we just roll right
in and away we go for the twenty twenty five season.
I mean, this is the first phase of this offseason program.
A reminder to everybody. It is volunteer, voluntary. No one
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has to be here until June technically for mandatory mini camp.
So for the next seven to eight weeks, we just
start ramping up to the start of the twenty twenty
five season. Going back to what you said, I don't
think the Browns are ready to turn in that card yet,
Andrew Berry last night or on Monday night, I should say,
on the draft preview show on the Browns Radio network, not.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ready to turn the card in yet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We're still going through some things. And I know there
have been plenty of reports out there, Adam Scheffer reporting
that the Browns made an inquiry to try to move
up to number one. Again, it's silly season, so take
things for what's coming out and where it's coming out from.
But Peter Schreger now from ESPN reporting this morning that
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the Browns are fielding calls. So are the Giants that
for pick two or pick number three. I think a
lot of things still on the table. I agree with
you that they know who they want at certain positions.
But all the mock drafts are done. Abe said it
last night. We're done with the simulations and everything. Everything's done.
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But where they pick and if they pick it too
to be determined.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think interesting. I would also say this, and this
is to not shoot down what you just said, but
just to add context, which you obviously know and I
think everyone knows. But I just want to pump the
brakes a little bit on the idea that somebody is
fielding a call, or somebody made a call. Put on
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your fantasy football cap. You've called up your buddy. Usually
it's a text chain or maybe a side text because
you don't want everyone else to see it, and you say, hey,
would you ever trade so and so? Because that's what
you do. GM's jobs are the same. It's their job
to answer the phone. As a matter of fact, it's
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a dereliction of duty if they don't answer the phone
and listen. And it's a GM's job to pick up
the phone to go, hey, roll with me here, what
if we did this? Would that interest you? Just to
see and the prepared gms, which no doubt Andrew Berry is,
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have their scenarios ready and very You don't want to
be surprised when you're on the clock. Now, you may
be surprised that somebody took a player in front of you.
You may be surprised if somebody jumped you. That happens, right,
But you don't want to be surprised when you get
to a position and somebody calls and makes a trade offer,
because you've usually walked these through. And that's what you
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talked about. That's what AB talked about on Monday, is
playing through all these scenarios so that you aren't beaten
by the clock. Right, you have everything prepared and you've
reasoned through all the scenarios. I look, my gut tells
me they're not trading. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and
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you go go ahead and play this. It's fine. I
don't think I would trade. I'd have to be blown away.
And here's why this is gibbe, just my opinion. There's
a reasonably short list. Joe Flacco's in the building. So
I'm going to use the word elite, using an old trope.
There's a relatively short list of quote unquote elite players
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in this draft. And when you hear that, oh TMX
wants to trade down, that's great. Somebody has to want
to trade up. Usually teams trade up for a quarterback.
In this case, teams may trade up for a quarterback
or they may trade up for the very short listed
elite players like an Ashton Genty, maybe even like an
Omari and Hampton, like one of the tight ends. And
there's love for Loveland over Tyler Warren in some circles
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right now, Sorry Buckeye fans. There's a very short list.
So if you trade down, and if you are the
Browns looking to potentially take somebody's offer and move a
little bit, you don't want to move far at all.
There is I think a greater likelihood of the Browns
at thirty three with the number one pick in the
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second round Friday night, and I think Fride is more
fun than Thursday. I think Friday is going to be wild.
I think there's I agree there's a trade a minute
on Friday, because that's when you have your second group
of quarterbacks and you have teams maybe going on that run.
None Look, maybe the run happens at eight nine, Maybe
somebody gets ahead of the Saints. I don't know. I
think the run happens in the second round. But anyway, backtracking,
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I think the Browns are more likely to move from
that pick just me Gide than they are from two.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I would agree. I think the Browns are more than
content and they know who they're going to go pick
at number two. This is all based on if Tennessee
taking cam Ward. Now, if Tennessee surprises assault and doesn't
take cam Ward, then then the dominoes fall a little bit.
It would be I don't think anybody would see that coming.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think we are.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So ingrained for the last month that this is the
guy that Tennessee is drafting. I think for anything else,
it's yeah, it would be very shocked.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It would shock me. Now that said, if it happened,
I'd be happy, Like you will see me running circles
around the Cross Country Mortgage campus like I will be
that happy because I think cam Ward is that guy.
I truly do. Now how I talk myself into that.
Of course, that's what we do the NFL draft media
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industrial complex here. That's what we do between the end
of the ball games, which seem like five years ago
and now. That's what we do. But if it were
to happen, Okay, so I put a tweet. I sent
a tweet out on Monday about what would happen if
the Browns were to trade at thirty three. I just
want to make something clear. I am not predicting, nor
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do I have some kind of unique insight or privileged
information that they're going to trade it thirty three. But
history dictates that trade could happen because the last three
consecutive drafts, the thirty third pick has been moved. Sometimes
it's someone getting out, sometimes it's a team moving up.
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But just want to lay it out here because it's
a lot cheaper than somehow the Browns trading up to one,
which isn't gonna happen, or some kind of other trade
within the first round. So last year was kind of
a silly one. If you remember Giveing, the Panthers are
picking thirty third, same pick the Browns. They wanted a
fifth year or they were afraid Buffalo is going to
take Xavier to get the guy that loves raccoon at Thanksgiving,
and they went from thirty three to thirty two. So
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they've just moved up to the final pick of the
first round, and they moved with Buffalo. Buffalo moved back
to thirty three to Keyon Coleman. The Panthers moved up
to thirty two and took Xavier ly Get and it
was a five to six pick swap. That's it right.
So if the Browns wanted to move up with Philadelphia
and somehow get a fifth year potentially for a quarterback there,
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it's a reasonably cheap move. Now, if they want to
move up and get a quarterback, it's going to be
more expensive. That happened in twenty twenty three. Tennessee moved
up to thirty three. Arizona had thirty three. Tennessee moved
up from forty one to thirty three to take will Levis.
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They did a third round pick swap, just like nine
picks difference, and then they threw in an extra three.
So it cost Tennessee to go from forty one to
thirty three eight spots. It cost them a third round pick.
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's a pretty valuable pick in this year's draft. Yeah,
second and third round picks are bigha.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So that was a third round pick for Tennessee to
move up to thirty three. So potentially the Browns would
have moved down they could get a third there and
then the move that I think everyone I don't want
to say assumes, but a lot of your mocks and
I think you and I agree on this, have looked
at the possibility of the Browns moving up from thirty
three into the fifth round and making a somewhat sizable
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jump up. And that's what the Jaguars did, but not
for a quarterback. In twenty twenty two, they went up
to twenty seven. Eh, moderate move. That's where Washington is
right now. I believe they went up to twenty seven
from thirty three and they took linebacker Devin Lloyd from Utah.
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It wasn't expensive. They gave up a four and a six.
That's it. Now. There wasn't a lot of competition for
that move this year. There will. I'm gonna tell you
right now, it's going to cost you more because there
likely will be other teams that want to make that
move and it'll be for a quarterback and the price
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will go up.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, that's I wonder if the majority of trades in
this first round happened between pick number twenty and pick
number thirty one, thirty two. You know, I mean that
is that where you're trying to get one of those
quarterbacks that you feel like you can develop, but you
feel like you're gonna need all five years potentially to
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do that.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Jalen Milroe, Jackson Dart I'll just throw some quarterback names
out there are both seen by most as quarterbacks that
need extra time in the lab. Jackson Dart he's got
a nice release. I mean he's put some good stuff
on tape. He's won some big games, also thrown some
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big picks and some big games at big moments. But
considering the offense he ran there, the common the group
think is he needs a little bit of time. Jalen
Milroe definitely needs time. Now you can throw him in
there and he'll be the most dynamic running quarterback in
football not named Lamar Jackson, ab suggested. Others have suggested
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maybe even more dynamic than Lamar Jackson. But as a
starting quarterback, is a guy that you can rely on
to consistently deliver the ball short, medium, and deep down
the field with accuracy timing. No, it needs a lot
of time. But Jalen Milroe, and I'll just go with
what Daniel Jeremiah said, Jalen Milroe runs the ball better
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than any quarterback in this draft throws the ball. It
is that good. If you put on his run tape,
go to PFF and go, you know, sort through everything
you can actually do. Just show me the runs. It
will blow you away, he's out of the pocket. Oh
he's downfield. Oh he doesn't have the angle. There's five
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guys there. Oh my god, he's in the end zone.
And that happens over and over and over again. But
those guys need time, and so to your point, trading
up into the if they were to do it, just
throwing it out there, Trading up into the first round
to get that fifth year actually has a lot of value.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean that's by the way, if you want to
package up all of our sixth round picks, great, four
of them, perfect, Yeah, four great. I don't need four
six rounders on Saturday. That's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And for the people that say you gave up a
five a fifth for for Kenny Pickett myself being one
of them, you can package a couple of six then
get back into the fifth. You can do I would
agree with that. Okay, you had some draft scenarios. Yeah,
let's have a little fun. You're ready to do all
right over under trades on Thursday night four and a half.
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I'm gonna take the under. I like I said, I
think the action is Friday. I think the action Friday
is gonna look like a boiler room. I think it's
it's gonna be it's gonna be a market sellof it's
gonna be people screaming and yelling on the floor of
the New York Stock Exchange. Not necessarily I'm here for
all to get out, but teams trying to get up.
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I truly do think that's what Friday looks like Thursday. Odds,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't odds that there's a trade made in the
top ten. What what percentage would you put it in?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm gonna cop out, say fifty to fifty. I know
that that's weak. This is not a particularly deep offensive
tackle class, nor O line in general. So if a
run happens at offensive tackle, or is there a run,
does somebody try to get up there? I think it
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also depends is anyone willing to trade up for like
Ted McMillan, the Arizona wide receiver if Matthew Golden goes
ahead of him, which many people do believe. And the
sneaky under the radar one is the backs, the running backs.
Like I was on with Bo and Nathan last week.
Last week, I've lost track of time, and I said,
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traveon Henderson like he ain't gonna be there at thirty three?
Does someone make a move for the third back? And
is it Travion that that wouldn't surprise me. There's some
inflection points Carolina at eight right in front of New
Orleans and then Denver at twenty right in front of Pitts.
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Those are target points where I think a lot of
teams think they may have to get to get whomever
it is that they want. And with the Saints real
quick here, I'm not going to use the T word,
the tank word. We all lived you guys there me
from Afar through a winless season. Don't wish it upon anybody,
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but just well I do on certain teams, on a
certain teams that might be picking twenty first. If if
you try to wrap your head, try to wrap your
head around what the Saints or are looking at. If
the reports are true and Derek Carr is lost for
this season, do you love one of the quarterbacks enough
to take them at nine or are you just gonna
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roll with Spencer Rattler, Roll with Rattler and go twenty
twenty six. We'll get here soon. Like I don't know therefore,
what happens there at eight to nine? To your point,
about trades I have I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All right, from a running back standpoint, Speaking of running backs,
do more running backs get drafted than wide receivers in
round one?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
On thirty?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Do more running backs get drafted in the first round
the qbs?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's a good one. Do more running backs get drafted?
I'm repeating it to think about it. Do more running
backs get drafted than I'm gonna say?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, all right, you don't get your money back on
These are not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No, No, you're good. We're good.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We're having a little podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We're all.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Uh, Which QB from this group goes first? Shador Sanders,
Jalen Milroe, Jackson Dart or Tyler Shuck Who many teams
have is the top QB?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm actually going to say Shador. I thought a week
ago was Jackson Dart And it could still very well
be just a funny thing happens when you get on
the clock. I don't think this is a you know,
Kenny Pickett and and maleak and I don't think this
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is like the Desmond Ridder they all fall to the
third round draft. I don't I think that once they
get on the clock, the quarterbacks are going to go
And I'm just gonna say shador now because all it
takes is won, and I think there will be one.
The guy has played enough good football. He is a
good quarterback. If his name were Bob Smith. There's two
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ways to look at this. Either we're not, you know,
clutching pearls here and having these screaming head conversations on
TV if his name is Bob Smith. The flip side
of that is, if his name is Bob Smith, he
might be evaluated to the third round. Great right, So
both can be true. But I think all it takes
is one and somebody will take.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Do the Browns make more picks on offense or defense
this weekend?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So I know if Nathan were answering this, he would
only want offensive picks, right, Weapons, Weapons, webens Okay, Like
I could tell him, Hey, Nathan, they're taking Lawrence Taylor
at two weapons. Weapons, Nathan taking Miles Garrett, see we woke.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
We woke FeelA up from his little slumber.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Taking Miles Garrett's twin brother, Michael. I don't think he
has a twin brother, Michael, and he's just as good,
and he's eight years younger. Weapons Anyway, I digress. Do
you remember the Panthers a bunch of years ago took
only defensive players. The Falcons this year only sent defensive
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coaches to the combine. Wow, could you play? I mean,
could you bluff any harder than that? I think Therons
do take more offensive than defensive players. But let's not
act as if this defense does not have holes. J
Okay's situation is still nebulous. To quote Andrew Berry, you
could use another pass rusher, you could use another tackle.
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The situation at corner everyone, I hear all the talking
heads on TVs. Oh, they're set at corner. They have
very good corners. It's, however, getting to a contract point
for mj Emerson and Greg Newsom, speaking of contracts, is
playing on his fifth year option. So there are definite
draft needs on defense, good front offices draft a year head.
I'm gonna lean offense for now, But I think what
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I would say is, with all those sixth round picks,
don't be surprised if some of those sixth round picks
get turned into twenty twenty six draft selections.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Perfect, good, awesome, final one real quick Brown's Draft Week
bold prediction.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Do you have.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One Draft Week Bold prediction. Sure, I think people will
be happy. I know that's bold. That's a very bold prediction.
If they stay it too, and they pick it too,
and look, these might be my famous last words. It's
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hard to screw up. Okay, they're going to get a
good player like and if it should or at should
or we will all get behind the excitement of having
a young quarterback. I know a lot of fans and
I'm not telegraphing it. I'm not trying to say what
they're gonna do. A lot of fans have already like
gotten off that train, right. But if that is the train, hey,
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you got the young quarterback, let's ride. Okay. If it's
Abdul Carter friends Miles Garrett and Abdul Carter on opposite
sides chasing Lamar Jackson and Joe and QB to be
a named later in Pittsburgh, unleash the dogs, let them eat.
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That will be amazing. You will learn to love it.
And if it's Travis Hunter, where's the good fishing holes
around here? Let's go teach him where he can be
happy here and fish here and just watch his wide
receiver tape and watch his cornerback tape and understand he's
as talented a human being to come out in this
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draft in years, and he'll be wearing a Browns jersey
if they stick and pick, and it's one of those three,
which I think it would be. You can't go wrong.
Just be happy and I'm not trying to break into
Farrell here, but just breathe and let it be Cedric Tillman.
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We're back in the building. It's not really football. You're
not playing football, you're not practicing, you're not on the field,
but like you're back man, how does it feel.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It feels good, you know, being able to come back
to the city, being able to see the guys, the coaches,
everybody in ability.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
We're all excited to be back here.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Personally for you, with the way your season ended, missing
those final six games, is it a little more special
to be back here.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Obviously I miss the rest of last year due to
an injury, so you know, just putting a chip on
my back and I'm more motivated now than ever.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know you want to look forward and not look back,
but grant me that here for a minute. What were
those six weeks like, because we kept hearing you had
the concussion against the Steelers. Obviously you're so close. Maybe
said's back this week. No, no, no, he's going to be
back next week, and then you never got through the protocol.
What was that like for you?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It was frustrating because I wanted to be out there
more than ever. You know, I felt like the offense,
the passing, we were doing so good. But you know,
unfortunately it just put it out that way. But I'm
excited to be back.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was rude. I should have asked, do you feel okay?
Are you good?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm one hundred percent okay, everybody, I'm good. I'm ready
to go.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You're one hundred percent and your hundred percent ready to
pick up really where you left off? Said when Jamis
took over there full time. Week eight, you had the
two touchdowns against the Ravens. Said by the way, starring
on the Bark Tank podcast, they're talking about his touchdown celebrations.
We need some more of those. You you like you
you had hit your stride like the light went on.
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How ready are you to pick.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That back up? I'm ready to turn up even more.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Honestly, I feel like I was really just getting comfortable
out there, so you know, just try to you know,
last year is done, but you know, obviously just want
to build up upon what I did and looking forward
to this year.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
How do you feel about Joe Flacco coming back?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was, I was excited. Man.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I was like, man, we got Joe back, so you know,
it's good to have this veteran presence in here. We
all know what Joe can do, and we're all excited.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Seriously, when you look at your phone that morning, yeah,
your reaction.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Was, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's get it.
Everybody was like, oh, you guys again, Joe vet, you
guys again, Joe back. So you know, like I said,
me and Joe he was here two years ago, so
kind of have a connection already.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And I know we talked a lot about what you
did with Jamis last year mid season when he took over.
If you go back to your rookie year, to your
point when Joe took over officially the LA game down
the stretch, your targets kept going up and up and
up and up.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Like I said, I think me and Joe have a
pretty good connection, and you know, we have all this
time to just keep developing that Dorian's not.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
In the building. Got to ask you about that. How
does that feel?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, obviously, you know it sucks just because you know,
I was my best friend, you know, we grew up together.
But you know he has a different opportunity. He's with
the Eagles and I'm out here with the Browns, and
you know we're both happy with our teams.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
What is this offense going to feel like? I know
it's day one here or day two, right, I mean
you just got back in the building, But does it
feel a little bit like twenty twenty three again?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
We know last year, especially the office side of the ball,
that that wasn't acceptable from the penalties from just a production. So,
like I said, it's putting chip on all our back
to really not put that on film again.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Tommy Reese, O C. What's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like? Man, it's gonna be excited. You know, I'm really
excited for him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You know, like I said, we got all great coaches,
we all trust them.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who do you want it? Number two said, let's just
talk draft rounds? Are picking second? You're laughing? Come on,
I know you there's somebody you want. Who do you want?
Sedrick Tilman.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I mean, I don't really know, you know, I I
don't really know. We all know who the top guys
are out there, you know. Rather we get help on
the office side of the ball, on the deepense side
of the ball, or whatever whoever we get at too.
I trust an organization is definitely gonna help our team out. Okay,
just just work with me here.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
The idea of Sedric Tilman, Jerry Judy, Travis Hunter. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I feel like that's a lot of touchdowns, a lot
of touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Could you deal with that?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Can they deal with that?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Are there enough footballs to go around?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, there's enough football to go around. There's enough football
to go around.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Would you also lobby to play corner if he were here?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But I love you to play corner?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Corner?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No, no, I mean he would play.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I would leave that to him, you know what I'm saying.
I'm not a corner, but uh you know, I just
played receiver. I catch the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
In all seriousness, how hard would that be?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Now? Wild?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I would like to see, you know, obviously he's a
great athlete, a great player.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Uh So I'm rooting for him. We're taping this full
disclosure on Wednesday. So if it isn't Travis Hunter, it
isn't Travis Hunter. We don't know. We're just talking about
the possibility. You read the same things I read. Are
you going in there? However, and pounded the table for
your Tennessee guys, whether it's Samson or Pierce or whomever.
Do you want those guys here?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know, I would obviously love to have, you know,
guys I've already played with college for but you know,
obviously that's not you know, my decision. But you know,
I believe we're gonna bring in the best guys possible.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We do want to talk about your off season though
I was scrolling through ig you did some European travel Spain.
How was that?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I went to Spain. I got an opportunity to go
to Barcelona with some friends and it was a really
good time.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That was my first time in Europe.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Got to see the culture, got to go to a
soccer game, and got to shop around a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So I had a great time FC Barcelona. What was
that like?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I mean, I've never been to a soccer game, so
to go to there for that to be my first experience.
I think it was like four to zero in like
ten minutes. So I didn't even know that happened in soccer,
but that was really cool to see. Did you play
soccer as a kid, Yeah, I played for like two
three years and I was like, nah, I'm not doing this,
no morn again.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was so young.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You were the best.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I was probably the most athletic going out there, so
probably I was the best one.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
After we get done here, obviously there's the OTAs that
the mandatory minichamp. Do you have anything else planned for
your summer before training camp?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know, like I said, it's a big year, not
only for me before the team, so you know, try
to get my fun out, you know, in the spring
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So now when we get back, we're just rolling, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So if it goes to a soccer game, it'll be
in Columbus or you know. There was a good one
here field a couple of days ago. Cedric Tillman, good
to see you.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Good to see that you're feeling well and I can't
wait to see you back out there on the field.
Thank you for having me, Cedric Tillman. Everybody we will
have a best podcast available after the draft. Again, I
don't know that it's Travis Hunter, but whomever it is,
that player first round pick is set to join us
on the next one for Jason Gibbs, for Cedric Tillmock
I made with Sicilian. So long, everybody,
Who don't want it. Number two said, let's just talk draft.
Browns are picking second, you're laughing. Come on, I know
you there's somebody you want. Who do you want? Cedra Tillman.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mean I don't really know, you know, I I
don't really know. We all know who the top guys
are out there, you know. Rather we get help on
the office side of the ball, on the deep int
side of the ball, or whatever whoever we get at too,
I trust an organization is definitely gonna help our team out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Congratulations, you made it. We made it. Collectively, the NFL
Draft media industry has made it to Draft week. And
we are here, and we are happy, and we are
ready to turn in the stinking card. This is the
(00:45):
best podcast available at the home office, at least for now.
We might do the switch O CHANGEO thing midway through
this pod. See if you could pick it up when
we actually do it. My name is Andrews Siciliado, back
of the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in beautiful Berea, Old.
It's actually beautiful this week. Give me, that's what you promised.
Megrees seventy can't let's goat to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's gonna be good man, Guardians with some big home
games this week. I'm assuming that maybe you try to
catch one once you come to our palatial estates.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's tough with the schedule. I mean, we're gonna be
burning the midnight oil. We're gonna be working around the
clock with your draft. So I don't know what time
is The Guardos game Wednesday is a matinee. As we
record this on Tuesday, after the opening of the Campsmith
Closer era on Monday night. Yeah, he made a face.
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He made a face.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Hold on, I believe, I believe someone on this podcast
might have had this.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
This is not Guardos talk. But while we're here, let's
pay homage. Got my Tom Hamilton talking bubble.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I don't think the mic pick that up.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
What's really hard? You got that? It is always good
to beat the Yankees. It's better when it's in October,
not in April. But I digress. Let's get to the draft.
As we record this, two things are happening. Number One,
the hay is for the most part in the barn.
You would have to think boards are set in terms
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of you know who you like, right, your board is set.
We know that no trades have been made, and everyone
still has their first round pick, including the Browns at
number two. That's on one side. On the other side,
the Browns social team and content team out and up
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bright and early this morning with cameras and iPhones at
the ready to capture the smiling faces of people like
Joe Flacco and Greg Newsom and Denzel Ward and Maachmod
Diabodi back in the building give a the off season
program has begun. Now people say, well, when can I
(03:06):
see Joe Flacco throwing passes. You're not going to because
that's not what this is. This is not field work.
This is just working out. So be prepared for more
Miles Garrett shirtless videos doing things in the gym that
you can't even possibly wrap your head around. There's a
lot of that. But what it does signal is that
football is slowly but surely forget about the draft getting
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here because the kids are back at school.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
The ball is starting to roll slowly at the top
of the hill, and it gets a little faster, it
gets a little faster, and then we just roll right
in and away we go for the twenty twenty five season.
I mean, this is the first phase of this offseason program.
A reminder to everybody. It is volunteer, voluntary. No one
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has to be here until June technically for mandatory mini camp.
So for the next seven to eight weeks, we just
start ramping up to the start of the twenty twenty
five season. Going back to what you said, I don't
think the Browns are ready to turn in that card yet,
Andrew Berry last night or on Monday night, I should say,
on the draft preview show on the Browns Radio network, not.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ready to turn the card in yet.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We're still going through some things. And I know there
have been plenty of reports out there, Adam Scheffer reporting
that the Browns made an inquiry to try to move
up to number one. Again, it's silly season, so take
things for what's coming out and where it's coming out from.
But Peter Schreger now from ESPN reporting this morning that
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the Browns are fielding calls. So are the Giants that
for pick two or pick number three. I think a
lot of things still on the table. I agree with
you that they know who they want at certain positions.
But all the mock drafts are done. Abe said it
last night. We're done with the simulations and everything. Everything's done.
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But where they pick and if they pick it too
to be determined.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think interesting. I would also say this, and this
is to not shoot down what you just said, but
just to add context, which you obviously know and I
think everyone knows. But I just want to pump the
brakes a little bit on the idea that somebody is
fielding a call, or somebody made a call. Put on
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your fantasy football cap. You've called up your buddy. Usually
it's a text chain or maybe a side text because
you don't want everyone else to see it, and you say, hey,
would you ever trade so and so? Because that's what
you do. GM's jobs are the same. It's their job
to answer the phone. As a matter of fact, it's
(05:50):
a dereliction of duty if they don't answer the phone
and listen. And it's a GM's job to pick up
the phone to go, hey, roll with me here, what
if we did this? Would that interest you? Just to
see and the prepared gms, which no doubt Andrew Berry is,
(06:12):
have their scenarios ready and very You don't want to
be surprised when you're on the clock. Now, you may
be surprised that somebody took a player in front of you.
You may be surprised if somebody jumped you. That happens, right,
But you don't want to be surprised when you get
to a position and somebody calls and makes a trade offer,
because you've usually walked these through. And that's what you
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talked about. That's what AB talked about on Monday, is
playing through all these scenarios so that you aren't beaten
by the clock. Right, you have everything prepared and you've
reasoned through all the scenarios. I look, my gut tells
me they're not trading. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and
(06:53):
you go go ahead and play this. It's fine. I
don't think I would trade. I'd have to be blown away.
And here's why this is gibbe, just my opinion. There's
a reasonably short list. Joe Flacco's in the building. So
I'm going to use the word elite, using an old trope.
There's a relatively short list of quote unquote elite players
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in this draft. And when you hear that, oh TMX
wants to trade down, that's great. Somebody has to want
to trade up. Usually teams trade up for a quarterback.
In this case, teams may trade up for a quarterback
or they may trade up for the very short listed
elite players like an Ashton Genty, maybe even like an
Omari and Hampton, like one of the tight ends. And
there's love for Loveland over Tyler Warren in some circles
(07:37):
right now, Sorry Buckeye fans. There's a very short list.
So if you trade down, and if you are the
Browns looking to potentially take somebody's offer and move a
little bit, you don't want to move far at all.
There is I think a greater likelihood of the Browns
at thirty three with the number one pick in the
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second round Friday night, and I think Fride is more
fun than Thursday. I think Friday is going to be wild.
I think there's I agree there's a trade a minute
on Friday, because that's when you have your second group
of quarterbacks and you have teams maybe going on that run.
None Look, maybe the run happens at eight nine, Maybe
somebody gets ahead of the Saints. I don't know. I
think the run happens in the second round. But anyway, backtracking,
(08:22):
I think the Browns are more likely to move from
that pick just me Gide than they are from two.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I would agree. I think the Browns are more than
content and they know who they're going to go pick
at number two. This is all based on if Tennessee
taking cam Ward. Now, if Tennessee surprises assault and doesn't
take cam Ward, then then the dominoes fall a little bit.
It would be I don't think anybody would see that coming.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I think we are.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So ingrained for the last month that this is the
guy that Tennessee is drafting. I think for anything else,
it's yeah, it would be very shocked.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It would shock me. Now that said, if it happened,
I'd be happy, Like you will see me running circles
around the Cross Country Mortgage campus like I will be
that happy because I think cam Ward is that guy.
I truly do. Now how I talk myself into that.
Of course, that's what we do the NFL draft media
(09:26):
industrial complex here. That's what we do between the end
of the ball games, which seem like five years ago
and now. That's what we do. But if it were
to happen, Okay, so I put a tweet. I sent
a tweet out on Monday about what would happen if
the Browns were to trade at thirty three. I just
want to make something clear. I am not predicting, nor
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do I have some kind of unique insight or privileged
information that they're going to trade it thirty three. But
history dictates that trade could happen because the last three
consecutive drafts, the thirty third pick has been moved. Sometimes
it's someone getting out, sometimes it's a team moving up.
(10:07):
But just want to lay it out here because it's
a lot cheaper than somehow the Browns trading up to one,
which isn't gonna happen, or some kind of other trade
within the first round. So last year was kind of
a silly one. If you remember Giveing, the Panthers are
picking thirty third, same pick the Browns. They wanted a
fifth year or they were afraid Buffalo is going to
take Xavier to get the guy that loves raccoon at Thanksgiving,
and they went from thirty three to thirty two. So
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they've just moved up to the final pick of the
first round, and they moved with Buffalo. Buffalo moved back
to thirty three to Keyon Coleman. The Panthers moved up
to thirty two and took Xavier ly Get and it
was a five to six pick swap. That's it right.
So if the Browns wanted to move up with Philadelphia
and somehow get a fifth year potentially for a quarterback there,
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it's a reasonably cheap move. Now, if they want to
move up and get a quarterback, it's going to be
more expensive. That happened in twenty twenty three. Tennessee moved
up to thirty three. Arizona had thirty three. Tennessee moved
up from forty one to thirty three to take will Levis.
(11:14):
They did a third round pick swap, just like nine
picks difference, and then they threw in an extra three.
So it cost Tennessee to go from forty one to
thirty three eight spots. It cost them a third round pick.
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It's a pretty valuable pick in this year's draft. Yeah,
second and third round picks are bigha.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So that was a third round pick for Tennessee to
move up to thirty three. So potentially the Browns would
have moved down they could get a third there and
then the move that I think everyone I don't want
to say assumes, but a lot of your mocks and
I think you and I agree on this, have looked
at the possibility of the Browns moving up from thirty
three into the fifth round and making a somewhat sizable
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jump up. And that's what the Jaguars did, but not
for a quarterback. In twenty twenty two, they went up
to twenty seven. Eh, moderate move. That's where Washington is
right now. I believe they went up to twenty seven
from thirty three and they took linebacker Devin Lloyd from Utah.
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It wasn't expensive. They gave up a four and a six.
That's it. Now. There wasn't a lot of competition for
that move this year. There will. I'm gonna tell you
right now, it's going to cost you more because there
likely will be other teams that want to make that
move and it'll be for a quarterback and the price
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will go up.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, that's I wonder if the majority of trades in
this first round happened between pick number twenty and pick
number thirty one, thirty two. You know, I mean that
is that where you're trying to get one of those
quarterbacks that you feel like you can develop, but you
feel like you're gonna need all five years potentially to
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do that.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Jalen Milroe, Jackson Dart I'll just throw some quarterback names
out there are both seen by most as quarterbacks that
need extra time in the lab. Jackson Dart he's got
a nice release. I mean he's put some good stuff
on tape. He's won some big games, also thrown some
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big picks and some big games at big moments. But
considering the offense he ran there, the common the group
think is he needs a little bit of time. Jalen
Milroe definitely needs time. Now you can throw him in
there and he'll be the most dynamic running quarterback in
football not named Lamar Jackson, ab suggested. Others have suggested
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maybe even more dynamic than Lamar Jackson. But as a
starting quarterback, is a guy that you can rely on
to consistently deliver the ball short, medium, and deep down
the field with accuracy timing. No, it needs a lot
of time. But Jalen Milroe, and I'll just go with
what Daniel Jeremiah said, Jalen Milroe runs the ball better
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than any quarterback in this draft throws the ball. It
is that good. If you put on his run tape,
go to PFF and go, you know, sort through everything
you can actually do. Just show me the runs. It
will blow you away, he's out of the pocket. Oh
he's downfield. Oh he doesn't have the angle. There's five
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guys there. Oh my god, he's in the end zone.
And that happens over and over and over again. But
those guys need time, and so to your point, trading
up into the if they were to do it, just
throwing it out there, Trading up into the first round
to get that fifth year actually has a lot of value.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I mean that's by the way, if you want to
package up all of our sixth round picks, great, four
of them, perfect, Yeah, four great. I don't need four
six rounders on Saturday. That's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And for the people that say you gave up a
five a fifth for for Kenny Pickett myself being one
of them, you can package a couple of six then
get back into the fifth. You can do I would
agree with that. Okay, you had some draft scenarios. Yeah,
let's have a little fun. You're ready to do all
right over under trades on Thursday night four and a half.
(15:21):
I'm gonna take the under. I like I said, I
think the action is Friday. I think the action Friday
is gonna look like a boiler room. I think it's
it's gonna be it's gonna be a market sellof it's
gonna be people screaming and yelling on the floor of
the New York Stock Exchange. Not necessarily I'm here for
all to get out, but teams trying to get up.
(15:43):
I truly do think that's what Friday looks like Thursday. Odds,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't odds that there's a trade made in the
top ten. What what percentage would you put it in?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm gonna cop out, say fifty to fifty. I know
that that's weak. This is not a particularly deep offensive
tackle class, nor O line in general. So if a
run happens at offensive tackle, or is there a run,
does somebody try to get up there? I think it
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also depends is anyone willing to trade up for like
Ted McMillan, the Arizona wide receiver if Matthew Golden goes
ahead of him, which many people do believe. And the
sneaky under the radar one is the backs, the running backs.
Like I was on with Bo and Nathan last week.
Last week, I've lost track of time, and I said,
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traveon Henderson like he ain't gonna be there at thirty three?
Does someone make a move for the third back? And
is it Travion that that wouldn't surprise me. There's some
inflection points Carolina at eight right in front of New
Orleans and then Denver at twenty right in front of Pitts.
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Those are target points where I think a lot of
teams think they may have to get to get whomever
it is that they want. And with the Saints real
quick here, I'm not going to use the T word,
the tank word. We all lived you guys there me
from Afar through a winless season. Don't wish it upon anybody,
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but just well I do on certain teams, on a
certain teams that might be picking twenty first. If if
you try to wrap your head, try to wrap your
head around what the Saints or are looking at. If
the reports are true and Derek Carr is lost for
this season, do you love one of the quarterbacks enough
to take them at nine or are you just gonna
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roll with Spencer Rattler, Roll with Rattler and go twenty
twenty six. We'll get here soon. Like I don't know therefore,
what happens there at eight to nine? To your point,
about trades I have I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
All right, from a running back standpoint, Speaking of running backs,
do more running backs get drafted than wide receivers in
round one?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
On thirty?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Do more running backs get drafted in the first round
the qbs?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's a good one. Do more running backs get drafted?
I'm repeating it to think about it. Do more running
backs get drafted than I'm gonna say?
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yes, all right, you don't get your money back on
These are not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No, No, you're good. We're good.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We're having a little podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We're all.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Uh, Which QB from this group goes first? Shador Sanders,
Jalen Milroe, Jackson Dart or Tyler Shuck Who many teams
have is the top QB?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm actually going to say Shador. I thought a week
ago was Jackson Dart And it could still very well
be just a funny thing happens when you get on
the clock. I don't think this is a you know,
Kenny Pickett and and maleak and I don't think this
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is like the Desmond Ridder they all fall to the
third round draft. I don't I think that once they
get on the clock, the quarterbacks are going to go
And I'm just gonna say shador now because all it
takes is won, and I think there will be one.
The guy has played enough good football. He is a
good quarterback. If his name were Bob Smith. There's two
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ways to look at this. Either we're not, you know,
clutching pearls here and having these screaming head conversations on
TV if his name is Bob Smith. The flip side
of that is, if his name is Bob Smith, he
might be evaluated to the third round. Great right, So
both can be true. But I think all it takes
is one and somebody will take.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Do the Browns make more picks on offense or defense
this weekend?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So I know if Nathan were answering this, he would
only want offensive picks, right, Weapons, Weapons, webens Okay, Like
I could tell him, Hey, Nathan, they're taking Lawrence Taylor
at two weapons. Weapons, Nathan taking Miles Garrett, see we woke.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
We woke FeelA up from his little slumber.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Taking Miles Garrett's twin brother, Michael. I don't think he
has a twin brother, Michael, and he's just as good,
and he's eight years younger. Weapons Anyway, I digress. Do
you remember the Panthers a bunch of years ago took
only defensive players. The Falcons this year only sent defensive
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coaches to the combine. Wow, could you play? I mean,
could you bluff any harder than that? I think Therons
do take more offensive than defensive players. But let's not
act as if this defense does not have holes. J
Okay's situation is still nebulous. To quote Andrew Berry, you
could use another pass rusher, you could use another tackle.
(21:14):
The situation at corner everyone, I hear all the talking
heads on TVs. Oh, they're set at corner. They have
very good corners. It's, however, getting to a contract point
for mj Emerson and Greg Newsom, speaking of contracts, is
playing on his fifth year option. So there are definite
draft needs on defense, good front offices draft a year head.
I'm gonna lean offense for now, But I think what
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I would say is, with all those sixth round picks,
don't be surprised if some of those sixth round picks
get turned into twenty twenty six draft selections.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Perfect, good, awesome, final one real quick Brown's Draft Week
bold prediction.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Do you have.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One Draft Week Bold prediction. Sure, I think people will
be happy. I know that's bold. That's a very bold prediction.
If they stay it too, and they pick it too,
and look, these might be my famous last words. It's
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hard to screw up. Okay, they're going to get a
good player like and if it should or at should
or we will all get behind the excitement of having
a young quarterback. I know a lot of fans and
I'm not telegraphing it. I'm not trying to say what
they're gonna do. A lot of fans have already like
gotten off that train, right. But if that is the train, hey,
(22:46):
you got the young quarterback, let's ride. Okay. If it's
Abdul Carter friends Miles Garrett and Abdul Carter on opposite
sides chasing Lamar Jackson and Joe and QB to be
a named later in Pittsburgh, unleash the dogs, let them eat.
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That will be amazing. You will learn to love it.
And if it's Travis Hunter, where's the good fishing holes
around here? Let's go teach him where he can be
happy here and fish here and just watch his wide
receiver tape and watch his cornerback tape and understand he's
as talented a human being to come out in this
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draft in years, and he'll be wearing a Browns jersey
if they stick and pick, and it's one of those three,
which I think it would be. You can't go wrong.
Just be happy and I'm not trying to break into
Farrell here, but just breathe and let it be Cedric Tillman.
(23:51):
We're back in the building. It's not really football. You're
not playing football, you're not practicing, you're not on the field,
but like you're back man, how does it feel.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
It feels good, you know, being able to come back
to the city, being able to see the guys, the coaches,
everybody in ability.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
We're all excited to be back here.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Personally for you, with the way your season ended, missing
those final six games, is it a little more special
to be back here.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Obviously I miss the rest of last year due to
an injury, so you know, just putting a chip on
my back and I'm more motivated now than ever.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I know you want to look forward and not look back,
but grant me that here for a minute. What were
those six weeks like, because we kept hearing you had
the concussion against the Steelers. Obviously you're so close. Maybe
said's back this week. No, no, no, he's going to be
back next week, and then you never got through the protocol.
What was that like for you?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
It was frustrating because I wanted to be out there
more than ever. You know, I felt like the offense,
the passing, we were doing so good. But you know,
unfortunately it just put it out that way. But I'm
excited to be back.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was rude. I should have asked, do you feel okay?
Are you good?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm one hundred percent okay, everybody, I'm good. I'm ready
to go.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You're one hundred percent and your hundred percent ready to
pick up really where you left off? Said when Jamis
took over there full time. Week eight, you had the
two touchdowns against the Ravens. Said by the way, starring
on the Bark Tank podcast, they're talking about his touchdown celebrations.
We need some more of those. You you like you
you had hit your stride like the light went on.
(25:27):
How ready are you to pick.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
That back up? I'm ready to turn up even more.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Honestly, I feel like I was really just getting comfortable
out there, so you know, just try to you know,
last year is done, but you know, obviously just want
to build up upon what I did and looking forward
to this year.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
How do you feel about Joe Flacco coming back?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was, I was excited. Man.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I was like, man, we got Joe back, so you know,
it's good to have this veteran presence in here. We
all know what Joe can do, and we're all excited.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Seriously, when you look at your phone that morning, yeah,
your reaction.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Was, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's get it.
Everybody was like, oh, you guys again, Joe vet, you
guys again, Joe back. So you know, like I said,
me and Joe he was here two years ago, so
kind of have a connection already.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And I know we talked a lot about what you
did with Jamis last year mid season when he took over.
If you go back to your rookie year, to your
point when Joe took over officially the LA game down
the stretch, your targets kept going up and up and
up and up.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Yeah. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Like I said, I think me and Joe have a
pretty good connection, and you know, we have all this
time to just keep developing that Dorian's not.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
In the building. Got to ask you about that. How
does that feel?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, obviously, you know it sucks just because you know,
I was my best friend, you know, we grew up together.
But you know he has a different opportunity. He's with
the Eagles and I'm out here with the Browns, and
you know we're both happy with our teams.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
What is this offense going to feel like? I know
it's day one here or day two, right, I mean
you just got back in the building, But does it
feel a little bit like twenty twenty three again?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
We know last year, especially the office side of the ball,
that that wasn't acceptable from the penalties from just a production. So,
like I said, it's putting chip on all our back
to really not put that on film again.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Tommy Reese, O C. What's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like? Man, it's gonna be excited. You know, I'm really
excited for him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You know, like I said, we got all great coaches,
we all trust them.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Who do you want it? Number two said, let's just
talk draft rounds? Are picking second? You're laughing? Come on,
I know you there's somebody you want. Who do you want?
Sedrick Tilman.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I mean, I don't really know, you know, I I
don't really know. We all know who the top guys
are out there, you know. Rather we get help on
the office side of the ball, on the deepense side
of the ball, or whatever whoever we get at too.
I trust an organization is definitely gonna help our team out. Okay,
just just work with me here.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
The idea of Sedric Tilman, Jerry Judy, Travis Hunter. What
do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I feel like that's a lot of touchdowns, a lot
of touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Could you deal with that?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Can they deal with that?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Are there enough footballs to go around?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Yeah, there's enough football to go around. There's enough football
to go around.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Would you also lobby to play corner if he were here?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But I love you to play corner?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Corner?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
No, no, I mean he would play.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I would leave that to him, you know what I'm saying.
I'm not a corner, but uh you know, I just
played receiver. I catch the ball.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
In all seriousness, how hard would that be?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Now? Wild?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I would like to see, you know, obviously he's a
great athlete, a great player.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Uh So I'm rooting for him. We're taping this full
disclosure on Wednesday. So if it isn't Travis Hunter, it
isn't Travis Hunter. We don't know. We're just talking about
the possibility. You read the same things I read. Are
you going in there? However, and pounded the table for
your Tennessee guys, whether it's Samson or Pierce or whomever.
Do you want those guys here?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Of course?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know, I would obviously love to have, you know,
guys I've already played with college for but you know,
obviously that's not you know, my decision. But you know,
I believe we're gonna bring in the best guys possible.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We do want to talk about your off season though
I was scrolling through ig you did some European travel Spain.
How was that?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I went to Spain. I got an opportunity to go
to Barcelona with some friends and it was a really
good time.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That was my first time in Europe.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Got to see the culture, got to go to a
soccer game, and got to shop around a little bit.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So I had a great time FC Barcelona. What was
that like?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I mean, I've never been to a soccer game, so
to go to there for that to be my first experience.
I think it was like four to zero in like
ten minutes. So I didn't even know that happened in soccer,
but that was really cool to see. Did you play
soccer as a kid, Yeah, I played for like two
three years and I was like, nah, I'm not doing this,
no morn again.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I was so young.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You were the best.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I was probably the most athletic going out there, so
probably I was the best one.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
After we get done here, obviously there's the OTAs that
the mandatory minichamp. Do you have anything else planned for
your summer before training camp?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know, like I said, it's a big year, not
only for me before the team, so you know, try
to get my fun out, you know, in the spring
and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
So now when we get back, we're just rolling, okay.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So if it goes to a soccer game, it'll be
in Columbus or you know. There was a good one
here field a couple of days ago. Cedric Tillman, good
to see you.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Good to see that you're feeling well and I can't
wait to see you back out there on the field.
Thank you for having me, Cedric Tillman. Everybody we will
have a best podcast available after the draft. Again, I
don't know that it's Travis Hunter, but whomever it is,
that player first round pick is set to join us
on the next one for Jason Gibbs, for Cedric Tillmock
I made with Sicilian. So long, everybody,
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