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July 25, 2025 • 58 mins

Paul Dottino and Matt Citak discuss everything they saw at training camp this week, discuss the Giants wide receivers, and take calls from fans.

:00 - Day three of camp

17:00 - Calls

33:00 - Youtube questions

40:00 - Giants defense

46:45 - Cam Skattebo

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(01:12):
We tell you that today's practice was in a bit
of a cooler setting than.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What we were told by the weather people. They expected
it to be sizzling.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
It wasn't quite as hot, Matt as I think it
was predicted to be.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Ooh, I'm gonna have to strongly disagree with you. There
there was hot a heck in the mid standing on
the sideline I was standing on at least I don't know.
Maybe maybe you got a little bit of shade or something.
I don't know, but me Dan John, we were swelling out.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I just talked to John. He said, you're absolutely right
it was. There was a breeze and it was cooler.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Than they do. There was a little breeze, I will say.
But John halfway through it to go inside and get
his hat after he said he was going to wear
the hat. So he was talking big. I think at
the table, I think, so oh wows to throw you
under the Yeah, he just exposed him. Yet he went
and got his bucket hat halfway through. I do think

(02:05):
temperature was.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
In the low to mid nineties, and the heat in
decks as far as I know, did not get over
one O five, which is what was predicted by the
weather people in the area.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It wasn't humid, which I will say helped. When it's
that hot plus the humidity, it's unbearable. I wouldn't say
it was quite unbearable today, but it was certainly extraordinarily hot.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Okay, it was hot.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was warm. I don't like the heats. I tolerted better.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Maybe that's all anyway. Still, regardless, it wasn't as hot
as it was projected to be. That that we know,
all right. Having set all of that, it was also
not exactly the most eventful of practices. In fact, of
the three we've had so far this week, it was
probably the least of ventful in terms of spectacular plays.

(02:55):
I jotted down three. You may have a couple to add.
I'll give you the quick three that I see it.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I just want to say the reason I think at
least that today's practice may not have been quite as
you know, many fireworks. The first two days we got
a little spoiled because the offense was focused mainly on
red zone work, so there were a lot of touchdowns
condensed fields. So the defense made a lot of plays today.
I think almost most of the snaps, almost all of
them took place on the offense's own half of the field,

(03:24):
which there were some big plays, but you know, not
quite as many you know, touchdowns, firework plays when you're
working on you know, your own side of the field
sort of offense as opposed to condensed red zone work.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, that would be a good reason for less scoring.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I concur there was I concur with that.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
What I will disagree with is it doesn't matter where
you are on the field. A throw can be a
really awesome throw, and a catch can be a really
awesome catch, no matter where the line of scrimmages.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Of course, we didn't see much of that today, but
I think due to where they were practicing on the field,
you know, we saw a lot more like check down
short field throws as opposed to the you know, longer.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Deep high I know what you're getting at now you're
getting more, you're getting more at the play calls.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean it was clear that's fine for most
of practice. At least the Giants were not, you know,
trying to even push the ball down the feld. The
occasional throw, but most of it was short field work.
So all right, well let's see what I wrote down.
Three plays in the eleven on elevens we had Russell
Wilson on what appeared to be about a sixty yard
bomb down the right sideline. It was a go route

(04:34):
one of.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Those moon balls to Malik Neighbors. Uh, folks, Neighbors is special.
I'm not telling you anything.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
You don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
He's just really really special. Because Polson the debo was
in coverage. He is a terrific player. And then at
the very end, when Neighbors was able to get the
separation and get the ball, then the debo stumbled and
fell so that he wouldn't have been able to stop
him from going into the end zone. But the throw
to catch, everything about it would have made your nightly

(05:02):
highlight film.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean, let's start with the throw. The throw
is spectacular, but it's nothing that we haven't seen already
from Russell Wilson going back, how sure to spring with
those moon.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Bolls back fourteen years in the league.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, but at least for us seeing it in person
obviously just the last couple of months. But again, beautiful throw.
Hits Malik Neighbor's writing stride. As you mentioned, Paul Pulsing
to Debo did slip at the very end. It was
like right before Malik caught it, and you know, but
don't let that take away from the catch or the
route run by Milik. I think the reason Paulson slipped

(05:34):
was because he was trying to get catch up to
Malik at the last second, knowing that he was about to,
you know, give up a fifty yard play, and that
is what kind of led to him to slip. It
was Malik running by him, out out running him down
the field, which is what led to that slip. But yeah,
amazing throw, amazing catch. Pulsing to Debo had good coverage
on it for most of the play, but Malik just

(05:55):
outran him at the end and then he and then
he slipped. The kids special, he is the least special.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
And at least once every practice he has an eye
opening play.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, at least one, if if not.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
More, he's something else. And by the way, to continue
our theme that Matt and I talked about the other
day and John and I mentioned again, I guess it
was yesterday. Banks and A Debo continue to be very sticky.
So does Drew Phillips. Now not as much from Phillips today,

(06:29):
but Banks and a Deebo had a number of plays
where they were very, very sticky, and I think most
two guys have really had a good camp so far.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah. No, I'm with you, and I don't know if
this was going to be one of your plays. Go ahead,
I just I jotted down. Again, didn't jot down the
most number of plays today compared to other practices, But
one of the plays they did write down was Deontay
Banks with a pass bring up deep down the field
and coverage from Darius Slade. And again it's great throw
by Russ and great route by Slade. Deontay Banks just

(07:01):
made a great play and knocked the ball out at
the last second for a I mean, what's stopping what
would have been a I don't know, thirty to forty
yard game. They game. Yeah, yeah, so that was a
great play by Donta. I agree. You know, he has
given up some plays, but again we said this on Wednesday,
he gave up a touchdown to Milik Neighbors when Maleak
just made a fantastic, tremendous play to leap over him

(07:23):
and catch it when he had great coverage. So it's
only been three days but it has been an encouraging
start to training camp for Deontay Banks.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I would say that would have been one of my
other three plays, or my three plays. That would have
been one of my other two. The other one that
I had was Winston in the early seven on sevens.
Jamis Winston hits bly sliding catch just inside the left sideline.
Banks was right there, right there, and the ball was

(07:53):
placed perfectly and Bly made a spectacular sliding ramp And
there were some people didn't think he was in bounds.
It was I was right there. He was a bounced
That was good. That was sensational play all around.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah. That was one of the only two plays I
wrote down in seven on sevens. The other one was
was just another big game and contested catch Tommy DeVito
to Bo Collins. Yeah you like that one. I was like,
I went that half a star. Well, those are the
only two I wrote down for the whole period, so
I just normally maybe I wouldn't have highlighted that one,
but it was okay. It was a nice thrown catch.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Given the context of today's selection, that would warrant a star. Yeah,
And so to expand on it, it was it was
about a a thirty yard pass on a crossing route
and he threw it on a laser beam.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Did the veto, Yeah it was. It was just like
a tight rope and hit.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Collins perfectly in stride, which is why you would have
said it looked pretty.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, it looked nice. It wasn't you know anything, not
like the catch was anything spectacular. It was a great
throw by Tommy and just good catch, big game. Uh
So I thought it was worth just at least mentioning
the only other plays. Let's see, Dane Belton had a
sack or it would be sack right, you know how
I came right off the edge, but that definitely would

(09:11):
have been a sack. I've taken an act.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
I think it would have been because they called the
safety blitz and there was nobody home exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, so he had a straight line, right, I agree,
it would have been.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
And then Corey Black I had he had a deep
pass breakup towards I think it was towards the beginning
of eleven on eleven. Loved it. Yeah, it was a
great play. Another deep pass down the field again, I
don't know, thirty thirty plus yard thirty yards? Yeah, and
he got his hands up at the last second knocked

(09:43):
the ball out. It was just a great play that
Corey Black, someone we have not mentioned too often. He's
been in the building the last couple of months, so
deserved the shout out. He made a good play. Yeah,
I was looking for any anything else. There's one other one,
which I'm gonna say, there's two parts to it. There's
the defense that made a good play, and then the

(10:03):
offense that made a good play. Yeah, the black one
that was the one down the left sideline. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
So towards the end, I think it was the last
team period, Elijah Garcia had what what would have been
a sack. He was there in the quarterback's face and
you know, obviously did not hit the quarterback because they
don't we don't do that a practice, but he would

(10:26):
have had it, but the coaching still have let the
play go on. And then your boy Bryce Ford Weedon
made a fantastic contested catch on the sideline. Again in
a game, it wouldn't have counted because it would have
been a sack, but correct because they let the game go.
The play go on. Bryce made a just a phenomenal
contested catch right on the sideline, got both feet in,

(10:47):
the defender was draped all over him, maintained possession as
he was falling to the ground. Just a great play.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
And you know, and I always say all the time
that just because they whistle to play dead in these practices,
my bad, because I always say, the throw still has
to be made and the catch still has to be made.
So regardless of whether or not it was whistled for
a sack, the wide receivers coach might grow is looking
at that receiver and if he drops the ball or

(11:12):
doesn't make the catch, it gets marked down. If he
does make the catch, regardless of what Dable called the
sack in the backfield, the receiver gets credit in the
receiver room for making a play. So heads up to you,
You're right, I should I should have counted that as
one of my plays, because yes, it was whistled down
as a sack, and I feel victim to to.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
They didn't even blow the whistle, That's what I'm saying,
Like it would have been a sack, but they let
the play go on like the defender. I apologize, I
do forget who was a gad, but it would have
been a sack for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
I was downfield and when I saw the play and
then Mas goes, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It was a sack. Yeah, I mean Elijah Garcia. It
was one of those plays where he just ran past
the quarterback because obviously he's not right to hit the guy.
So then the quarterback scrambled and hit Bryce Ford Wheel.
But let me say the table, which is why I
didn't originally think that's the cornerback was had great coverage
like he did not. It's not like he stopped because
he thought the play was over, like he was running

(12:10):
with Bryce Ford Whedon all the way to the sideline.
It was just a fantastic placement of a throw and
a great catch. But it was Banks.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
It was Banks from Winston, right, I believe. So yeah,
it was Winston Bank Winston to Ford Wheaton and Banks
was right there right.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like he there's nothing he could have done on that
play better. It was just Winston put it all like
on the sideline and Bryce for Whedon caught. It was
able to keep his feet and bounds right in front
of where I was standing, and you brought up Mike
grow Well. Microw was also standing right there while he
was going nuts congratulate, pumping up Bryce for Whedon because
it was a fantastic place.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
When they both got up, you could see how Banks
was upset because he thought he probably should have wrestled.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
The ball away. He wanted that ball. Yeah, he didn't
get it. No, it was a great catch, no doubt.
And I guess one last play just to fire you
have another one, all right, a final play which just
because it was one of the few touchdowns, we should
just touch on. Okay, go ahead, just Jackson Dart. The
ball was lined up, I want to say on like
the fifteen yard line. It was inside the twenty. Jackson

(13:11):
Dart hits Camp Scataboo in the corn of the end
zone for a touchdown. Skataboo gets both feed in. Nice
throw and nice catch, nothing spectacular. Wasn't one of the
top plays. But just because we only had a very
few touchdowns today due to where they were practicing most
of the day, deserve that just a little shoutout. That's
how they concluded practice. The very last.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Simple release out of the backfield. He beat the linebacker
to the outside touchdown.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
But I will say it's just another piece of evidence.
Like Camp's Kataboo, He's gonna have an impact in the
passing game, yes, more than capable of catching the ball, yes,
And it is clear that the coaching staff is already
starting to, you know, build a little bit of confident.
Obviously it's only day three of training camp, but they
know what he can do in the passing game, and
I think they're gonna utilize him there.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Think of Greg Comela. You remember Greg, right, yep? Think
of Greg Comela, folks in terms of he was a
fullback on this team, and he wasn't used much to
carry the ball, if at all, but when he was
in the game, he blocked and then he wound up
going out for passes and often often would catch the
short flare out or the screen or just a little

(14:17):
circle route to the outside. Comella was definitely a viable
part of the passing game in Carrie Collins' offense back
in twenty zero two thousand. Now, I'm not comparing Scattaboo
to Comela in any other way other than potentially using
him like that in the past game. Having said that,

(14:42):
there was one other item today we do not have
any injury update information on the collision between Wandel Robinson
and linebacker Brian Burns.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
There was a.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Pass play to the left sideline. As the players were converging,
Robinson in and Burns simply ran into each other.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was that simple.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
It happens on the field sometimes they just bang knocked
into each other. Both guys were a bit slow getting up,
but both guys did walk off under their own power.
And we do not have any further information as to
where they stand right now.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, no injury updates from that. It was a pass
to Greg Dulcich. He was caught it. He was running towards,
you know, obviously trying to get to the end zone.
He was probably twenty five years no, no way he
was making it. I will say I commend Brian Burns
because obviously he's an outside linebacker. He was sprinting all
the way downfield to catch up to try to try

(15:41):
to make a play. And unfortunately, just as he was,
you know, getting close to Dulcic, Wandel Robinson was kind
of coming across. They didn't see each other. They just
ran into each other. It was just one of those
kind of unfortunate collisions. But obviously we hope they're okay.
But I will just tip my cap because that was
it was a great hust play by Brian Burns's just

(16:02):
unfortunate end results. You see those collisions sometimes on Group three. Yeah,
I mean they just happen. They do. Hopefully they'll you know,
be okay exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
All right, So that's all we got in terms of
today's practice report. It was a practice session number three.
The players are off tomorrow and they'll be back on
the practice field again on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
So which means we are off tomorrow. It does.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I know you might not like that, but during training
camp we don't get many days off. I know, we
don't know what we do. I don't want days all.
You just want forty six straight days of training camp
going right into week one.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I'd be fine with eight months straight.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know me.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
You guys all know me.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I don't want to take a breath. I just want
to keep going. All right.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Hey, Pearson, you got a second to update us on
what's going on with the huddle. I know there's a
lot of stuff that has been recorded the last few days.
This is a good time just to check in with you.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah. Yesterday we had Connor or Go up. He's a
writer for Sports Illustrated, and he had an article on
Russell Wilson they kind of talked about him most of
the interview, and today we have Justin Pugh going up
on the huddle as he announced retired as a Giant.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
We didn't even bring that up really.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, well I kind of figured that was going to
be in his spiel and I was going to follow up.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
But yeah, he had a press conference, he'll be on
the huddle, so we'll get tons of Justin Pugh content.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, Justin Qugh came back to just sign a one
day contract to officially retire as a New York Giant.
And it was really great to meet his family. His
little daughter is just adorable.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, yes, so, but he's going straight back to the couch.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, it sounds like he's got a lot of work involved.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, he does and got going on, and.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'm sure we will see him down the road many
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(18:17):
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Speaker 2 (18:22):
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Speaker 3 (18:23):
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Speaker 2 (18:30):
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Speaker 3 (18:31):
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(18:52):
head over to the phone calls. And I believe our
first caller is Marco in Connecticut, one of our regulars. Hello,
I call you a first on the show.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
Hey tell us how you doing today?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Doing well? How are you?

Speaker 5 (19:05):
I'm doing great. I have to I'll just get my
points out and then I got to jump and I'll
listen offline. But John had a call. John had a
a BBK recently with Lance where they were talking through
the depths on the team and the different position battles,
and he started talking about the offensive line, and it
got me thinking about some of the vets that are

(19:26):
on the team, Like you mentioned Aaron Stinny potentially on
you know, like now that vets could potentially be on
the practice squad. I was curious about the practice squad
and if a if a VET is signed onto the
team at a specific contract, what what happens to a

(19:46):
player if they are if they are cut and then
end up on the practice squad, do the dollars change
for the player? I guess that's my first question.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yes, they get practice squad sali. It's a week to
week based practice squad salary, unless when they sign their
practice squad contract they're offered a bonus, which is allowed
but does not have to be the case. Now, the
one year deal, assuming that's what you're talking about. That

(20:15):
let's say an Aaron STINNI, let's use him for ring example.
This is hypothetical, folks. Stinny signs a one year deal
with the Giants, re signs one during the off season,
assuming there's no guaranteed money in there. Okay, if there's
guaranteed money in there, he gets that money no matter
what happens to him. But if he is released and
then brought back to the practice squad, he is now

(20:38):
signing a new contract that is a practice squad contract
and he gets paid week to week, and if there
is no bonus.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Involved, that's it.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
There's no incentives, there's no other clauses in it. That's
what he gets unless he is elevated to the fifty three.
When a player is elevated to the fifty three, they
now get a minimum game check that equates to being
on the fifty three. So you can get a raise
if you're one of those practice squad guys and you
get bumped up the maximum three times that you can

(21:09):
get bumped up during the season. That means each of
those three times you're getting a full fledged NFL fifty
three man roster minimum game check for each one of
those three games that you get elevated for. That's one
of the reasons why at the end of the season
you'll notice under Joe Shane's administration, in the last game
of the year, they usually bump up one or two

(21:31):
practice squad guys, and even though they may be inactive
and not get a jersey on game day, it is
a reward to them for working so hard during the
season and being diligent on the practice squad. It's like, okay, guys,
last game of the year, we're going to bump you
up and get you a real game check for that
final game as kind of it's in effect, it's kind

(21:53):
of like a nice bonus for them.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Paul and Paul, thanks for bringing up that. I remember
that's happened a couple of years now. That is a
great point. I here's the last question then I'll jump
If a player is on the practice squad and are
they so? If a players on the practice squad, are
they subjected to any any team in the league possibly

(22:17):
scooping them off? Yes, yes, and they are okay. And
but can the player rejected If yes, the team comes calling,
they could, They could decide to stay on the squad,
correct squad.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
They can. And a lot of times, you know, if
a player has interest from another team that's on the
practice squad, you know, obviously the team that the guy's
currently on knows that their interest is there. And that's
why a lot of times you'll see a team then
sign the guy off of their own practice squad, elevate
him to the active roster to prevent another team from
scooping him from their own.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Per That happened with Davis Webb a few years ago. Yeah,
if Dolphins wanted to sign Davis web Off. The practice
squad did their fifty three, the Giants said, Okay, you
know what, We'll just activate you to our fifty three dead.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was near to the end of the season or the.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Player or the player could say, Hey, I don't want
to travel across country. I want to stay where I'm at,
and just.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Can could player could definitely allowed to make that decision. See.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
The difference in practice squad is that it's not like waivers.
When you get claimed off waivers, you're stuck. You got
to go to who claims you practice squad. You don't
have to make that jump to somebody else's fifty three
if you don't want to.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Most guys do though, because obviously practice squad a lot
of guys will. Yeah, obviously there are certain, you know,
exceptions to that, but for the most part, these guys
want to be on NFL rosters. I don't blame him, No,
I get.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
It is that it Oh great, appreciate the call marker,
the call mark I hope we explained something to folks
out there who maybe don't understand quite how the practice
squad works.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
A line too, has JJ also in Connecticut, you're next
in the program.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Hello, Hey Paul, Matt, I'm gonna to talk to you
guys again.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
So I'm going to the training camp on Sunday and
I'm looking at the weather report right now. I see
that there's a ninety percent chance of rain in the morning.
I'm just wondering how would that work, being from Connecticut
and it's around a two hour drive. I know they
go inside the practice, but would we know ahead of time,

(24:24):
so it's not that you have to drive all the
way out there just to find out that it's canceled.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, totally get the question. I would say that I
know they try. They being you know, the operations the
events department here, they do their absolute very best to
give fans as much of a heads up as possible,
just as you mentioned, So no one is making that
two hour drive to get here just to find out
practice is canceled, right, But at the same time, the

(24:52):
team wants to practice outside. So if there's a chance
that they might be able to if the weather, you know,
is not the forecast is not one hundred percent that
it's going to rain and they're going to be forced inside,
then they might you know, delay that decision as long
as possible, So I don't we don't have a concrete
answer for you. I know they they definitely try their

(25:13):
best to give you guys as much of a heads
up as possible if it looks like it's you know,
almost for certain going to be pouring rain and there's
no way they can practice that side. I would think that,
you know, that the cancelation for the fans would be
given at least a little bit ahead of time, but
it really, as you know, the weather changes so quickly,

(25:34):
so often, so unfortunately, it might be a situation where
you know, the fans don't really know until a little
bit before. I think we're just gonna have to, you know,
keep keep an eye on the weather and sort of
see what happens. But hopefully that heads up will be
given to you guys as early as possible.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
My best advice would you be coming down with somebody
else in your vehicle.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
So actually, my dad's the one driving me and him
actually just had this conversation of a couple hours ago.
My dad doesn't like he's like a weather maniac where
he'll look at the weather.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
Rain.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Oh, I don't think we're gonna be able to make
it this year.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Buzz.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
All right, well here's the.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
Worst I would have to go down by myself.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
But all right, well here here's here's what I would say.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, two things.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Number one, if if you check on the weather reports
and that morning there's already reports about lightning, chances are
you probably shouldn't even get in the car because yeah,
that's not encouraging, but lightning, for sure. It doesn't matter
if there's light rain or even just cloudy skies. If

(26:47):
there's lightning, they're going inside and the public will not
be able to watch period. So lightning is a definite
no go. That just automatically forget it. No matter how
much rain may or may not be falling, light is
a no go. Here's my suggestion to you. If he's driving,
you make sure that you have your phone on the

(27:09):
way down, and if they haven't announced a change in
the practice schedule or the cancelation at that time, as
you begin driving down, you monitor the phone, monitor the tweets,
the social media, the Giants, the website of the Giants,
the Giants app. Because trust me, as soon as the

(27:31):
Giants operations people decide there's going to be a change,
they will get it there too. Probably you right, You're
probably going to be the one who pops it right.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
You know me, the social the Giants Twitter cat will
announce it like as soon as a decision is made,
it will We'll get that information out as quickly as possible.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's going to get popped out on all the social
media sites and the app and the Giants website. It's
going to go out to the to the regular media.
By that point when I get it, I'll pop it
on my Twitter as well. There'll be places that you're
going to get in the lord. So hopefully if you're
already on the road, maybe you're not too far down here,
and then you would get the notification and I'm sure

(28:14):
you'll probably pop up one of those notifications on the
app on't you.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Mat Yeah, I would think that we would send a
push notification on the.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
App, so that kind of do that last resort, last resort.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
Yeah, yeah, because I got the big Blue Miami sorry,
the Giants Mobile app, so I have that, right, I'm
kind of an old tool. I'm not really on social media.
All I have is the Giants Instagram page, Twitter.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't have.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Anything like that.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
It'll go up on Giants Instagram on it will I
would potentially, I would think, I'm sure it's going to
be on the app if you guarantee you that it
will definitely be on the mobile app. If you have
the mobile app, just make sure you're the push notifications
the setting is turned on so you get that notification
where we do send it. I keep refreshing everything. You

(29:02):
can keep refreshing if you'd want. But I would say,
at least you know, I would hope that you have
to push notifications on always. But if you don't always, okay,
so you do all right, perfect, then if that decision
is made, we will most likely be sending you know,
a notification out through the app to let you guys know.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I wish there was a better answer, my man, but
that's that's the best we can do right now.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
No, no, man, I appreciate it. Thank you guys so much.
And oh man, I'm so excited for football to be back.
I feel like a junkie who needs to fix right now.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
But thank you so much, singing my song thank you well.
Thanks JJ two O one nine three nine four five
one three. Let's go to Jackson in Queens. You're next
on the show.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Hey Paul, Hey man.

Speaker 9 (29:48):
How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Good?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
How you doing? Jackson?

Speaker 8 (29:51):
All right?

Speaker 9 (29:52):
So I want to ask you, guys, how many wins
do you think is realistically possible? If it's like, should
I be excited for this season? Because last season I
was very excited week one looking up looking against the Vikings,
and then it just went all completely downhill, like five
minutes into the game, and then it was a terrible season.
And it's been like that for the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Jackson, do you love the game?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Do you love do you love pro football?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
I love pro football?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Okay, then my answer.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
To you is you should always be excited about the
start of the season.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I agree, And I also think, unlike last year, there
are there's more to this team that fans should be
excited about. You know. Obviously we all want to win,
no doubt about that. But you know, the development of
Jackson Dart is something that is going to be a
you know, a prolonged process throughout the throughout the whole season.

(30:48):
You know, he depending on how the season is going,
he could be getting in towards the end of the season,
you know, and that's obviously a big part of the
future his development. I have Duel Carter seeing what he
can Dolik neighbors year too. So obviously we want to win,
and we want as many wins as possible, but I
think there are other factors to this season as well
that should hopefully keep all you fans interested regardless of

(31:12):
what the win loss record might be.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
And do you believe in the coach so far from
what you've seen from him, like how his behavior? Do
you have faith in this coach that he'd a leader.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
We've been talking about the coach of the GM for
months here as people continue to ask, and we've told
you very honestly that the respect that Brian Dable and
Joe Shane have around the National Football League, people who
are in this business, in this industry, it is extremely high.
So I get the fact that they haven't won as

(31:45):
many games as you would like. They haven't won as
many games as they would like either, but that hasn't
changed the opinion of those people who are respected and
understand football. These guys are graded very highly. So you know,
I don't know what else I can do to accept
to repeat that one more time.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Not only that, but I think even more important is
they still fully have the respect of everyone in this
building and the whole entire locker room loves coach Dable.
You can see, I mean we see it every day
with his interactions and relationships with his players like they
love him, and anytime any of them are asked about
him as a coach, they all rave about him. I

(32:27):
have not heard one player say something negative about Dable
since he took over, and you know that obviously has
a very big factor. You know, we've I've been here.
This is my seventh season. Coach Dable is my third
head coach that I've seen, and I've seen other head coaches,
you know, lose the locker room a little bit, not completely,

(32:49):
but I've seen some losing a lot. Yeah, you've been
here longer than Yeah, he has not lost the locker room.
They fully believe in him. They fully believe in this team.
You know, obviously the last two seasons have not gonne
how anyone would like, and you know, following the playoff run,
I think the last two seasons were a little bit
of like a I don't know, maybe a wake up
call to everyone, like kind of like shake everyone awake.

(33:11):
But they still fully believe in him as a coach,
and you We see it every single day with his
interactions with them, both on and off the field. They
love him so For me, I still have full faith
in him without a doubt.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
All right, appreciate the phone call.

Speaker 9 (33:28):
Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Bring us up again. Thank you Jackson two on one
nine three nine four five one three. We go to
our YouTube comments. So a lot of folks are are
very willing to ask questions on YouTube, and that's fine.
It's a way to interact with us.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
We're good with it.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Poppy Sutra says, how are the receivers looking behind neighbors? Uh?
He wants to know about Hyatt and Slayton and Robinson.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
We did not mention Hyatt at the beginning of this broadcast,
and I apologize for that. Brian Dable told us this morning. Uh, Hi,
he'd had some cramping and tightness yesterday with the hot weather,
and therefore they helped him out of today's session. Nothing
to be alarmed about, but he did have to take
today's session off. I apologize. We could have told you

(34:14):
that earlier. Slayton and Robinson, we have no update on Robinson.
We mentioned that to you before, and as far as Slayton, goes.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
He practiced in full Yeah, and I mean in terms
of how Slaton looked. I mean he even said it
himself when he spoke to the media. He's just mister consistent.
You know, four of his six years seven hundred plus
receiving yards despite well we can just call not the
greatest quarterback play and he still put up consistent numbers.
He even said he prides himself on his consistency. And

(34:45):
sure enough, that is exactly what we've seen from him
these last few days throughout the spring. He's just consistent.
You know, he has been able to, you know, knock
off that dropping past narrative that he might have had
earlier in his career. And yeah, I mean, I don't
know a better word to describe him as better than consistent,

(35:06):
because stead it's just what he is. Yeah, sen item
for consistent, but yeah, he's just he's a really good,
solid NFL player. Yeah, and he is now the longest
tenured Giant. Him and Dexter Lawrence the two players that
are remaining from twenty nineteen, the only two, which is
kind of crazy to think about it. And he even

(35:26):
said he doesn't really yesterday, he said he doesn't really
think about it too often until someone like the reporters
bring it up to him and then he thinks about
it and he, you know, realizes that's kind of crazy that.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
The old yeah him in Dex Yeah, Tyler Perry says,
just tuning in. Who was covering Neighbors on the deep
Bowl today? We described that play very thoroughly earlier in
the program, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
It was a debo. Pulson.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
The de bow was with him step first step until
the very end of the route. Neighbors hit the Jets
had extra acceleration and then kind of a debo kind
of stumbled and tripped and slipped. Neighbors completed the play
and went for the touchdown. It's already up on the
on the social.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Media, yep, it is up on Giant's Twitter. By the
time Malik comes into the shot, though, a debo is
no longer there, So I can understand if you saw that,
you might not know who is who is covering. But yeah,
every practice, you know, we on our social media we
put up a couple of the top plays. You know
that Deontay Banks pass breakup deep down the field. This

(36:30):
is the past break up on Darius Slayton that just
got posted fifteen minutes ago. So yeah, we you know,
we have as Paul and I mentioned the other day,
we have cameramen all over the field, covering covering just
about every angle in hopes that whenever there is a
big play of any sort, one of the cameramen out
there will catch it and capture it and we can

(36:51):
then post it. So keep an eye out every day
after practice. We'll be getting at least a handful of
highlights up each day, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I would also mention to you again that play, to
me just exemplifies the greatness of neighbors. Because we've seen
a debo time and time again, we understand the quality
of coverage that he provides. It wasn't like, you know,
he was just some Joe Schmoe.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
No, he was. He was with him, He looked like he.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Was going to be able to make a play, and
then Neighbors just did neighbors things.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, honestly, it was more just a great route and
play by Malik than anything to throw to by Russ.
But more than that than anything that Paulson did. Even
if it didn't slip, Milik was most likely going to
catch that pass.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Where does he get that that little sudden second gear
burst at the end of his route.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
He's got a sore toe.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
He runs faster than I do.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Hate to break it to you, that's not really saying much.
It's not but have you seen me power walk? Ow?
Have I seen you do it? Every day? Of course?
But yeah, there's a reason why, only going into year two,
he's already considered one of the top we'll just say
ten to be conservative, but a top ten receiver in
the NFL, already only one year into his career. He
is special.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Dave Decarl says who is a more realistic signing, Gabe
Davis or Christian Wilkins. I don't know right now that
either one is.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I don't disagree, But if you're asking who's more realistic
between those two, I think the answer is kind of clear.
Gabe Davis would be more realistic, just because Christian Wilkins,
despite whatever and he is hurt and despite whatever injury
stuff that's going on, whenever he does sign, he's gonna
He's not signing for some minimum contract. He's signing a
big fat contract with whoever agrees to a deal with him.

(38:44):
And just I don't think the Giants have the cap
space to add on another huge contract like that in
the middle of the season. So I don't know if
either one of them will happen. Right now, I would
possibly even lean, you know, barring injuries, lean towards neither
one of them happening. But if you had to pick
one or the other in terms of who's more realistic,
I think the answer would clearly be Gave Davis.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Perry Mack wants to know who is the spy for
mobile quarterbacks? Well, first of all, philosophically speaking, based on
what I've seen, it doesn't look like defensive coordinator Shane
Bowen really wants to make a lot of use of
a spy. From what we saw last year, it's not
something he really seems to be eager.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
To do now.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
That also could have to do with the personnel and
what the scheme they were playing last year, It just
didn't fit. Could he potentially do some.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Of that this year? Sure he could.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
It is possible. Abdul Carter has the ability to do that.
Talking to Brandon Shorrett, the former Giants linebacker who's on
the Penn State Board of Directors and knows Abdul Carter
like a glove, told me very simply, he did some
spying at Penn State, so if the Giants ask him

(40:03):
to do it, it's not a problem. He's certainly capable
and has already done it.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
We're also getting some comments just about what that is
a spy on a mobile cure?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Oh sure, sure, Pearson, thank you all right. So to clarify,
a spy is basically a roving defensive player who is
going to be in the back seven of the defense,
and his assignment is to horizontally shadow the quarterback. As
the quarterback decides he's gonna use some of his mobility,

(40:32):
he's gonna roll left, or he's gonna roll right, or
even if he's gonna just drop back, that spy is
supposed to horizontally mirror him or shadow him on the
defensive side of the ball. And then if the guy
decides to come forward and he starts to take off
toward the line of scrimmage, now that spy has to

(40:52):
go meet him at the what's the word two things collide?
What's the word? I'm looking for? Geometry? The point of impact? No,
not point of impac Come on, what's the what's the
what's the geometry term? I don't know, No, there's a
geometry term. Oh, my teacher, from my intersection.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, that's that of work. Intersection will work. Okay.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
It is a spy's job to meet that quarterback at
the intersection, hopefully at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, and it's not something you see every week every
game because it's typically only reserved for the more mobile quarterbacks.
So you know, if a team is playing Lamar Jackson
or Jaden Daniels, that sort of quarterback, you might see
a spy at least on some plays, not maybe not
every play, But it's to try to keep those sort
of extremely mobile quarterbacks from running for you know, one

(41:50):
hundred plus yards because if you have your opposing quarterback
running for one hundred yards in addition to whatever he's
doing through the air, probably not the best day for
your defense, not at all. So yeah, so we don't know,
we have not seen it in practice yet. As Paul mentioned,
if I had to just guess, Abdul Carter would fit

(42:11):
that mold, I think the best of the personnel that's
currently on the team, especially because you could still have
Brian Burns and Cavon on the edge. It's not like
you'd be taking out one of your star edge rushers
and not really have someone else to then line up
in that position because that surplus the Giants currently have.

(42:31):
It would make sense, but we have not seen it yet.
So the plant will say for.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Sure when you go into a spy situation, is that
the spy's responsibility is simply to shadow that quarterback horizontally.
You're taking him out of the rest of the scheme.
His only responsibility is to make sure I follow that QB.
You're taking a guy out of your defensive scheme because

(42:56):
he's now isolated on one player. That's the danger in
doing it. That's why teams don't overuse it. Usually the
spy is your nickel linebacker or a strong safety. Usually
those are the most common positions that are.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Used for a spy.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Poppy Sutra wants to know which receivers do you think
can sneak on to the fifty three?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, we know the likely the top four at least, Yeah,
Malik Blandel Slayton kind of question is how many I
feel like we have this question. We have this debate
where every I was gonna say, every training camp leading
into roster cutdown day, do the Giants keep you know,
six receivers seven, maybe even I mean eight might be

(43:44):
a lot, but there's no way to keep it. Not eight,
probably six or seven. It's I feel like it's typically
in that I would say, you know, we've had this
conversation many times again. I would think that someone like
Amir Smith Marsette has a very good chance because he
is also likely to be in the running for the
kick returner position or punt and kick return.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I don't see how you get rid of Ford Week neither.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, because of his abilities as a gunner. That's true,
can't do it. That's that's six. And there's also plus
the four. And they're also all the undrafted guys that
obviously this is going to be a big five to
six week period for them to show what they can do.
And we've seen some of them already step up throughout
the spring in the first couple of days, so the
training hit in the battle for the bottom of the

(44:27):
depth charter wide receiver, I think is going to be
one of the most heated and highly competitive battles for
any position in camp.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I would also say part of the problem why I
think it's a max six the four plus the two
we just mentioned. Part of The other problem is these
tight ends. We've talked about this also all week, these
tight ends. None of these guys have done anything.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
That deserves to be cut. Every one of the.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Tight ends, including Terry, who is deep on the tight
end depth chart.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Was a fifth.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
He's made every play he's been asked to make.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, maybe even sick. What has he done wrong? Nothing,
He just hasn't had quite as many opportunities as the Otherody.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Catches everything that's thrown at him. Yeah, that's true. These
tight ends, you know, these tight ends are folks. It's
a good tight ends room. I mean if Dulcint Dulca
is five, Terry is six.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, and we didn't even talk about, you know, someone
like little Jordan Humphrey, who I have a feeling he
might be one of those guys. I feel like each
year there's that one guy that gets moved, you know,
between the practice squad the active roster, gets cut, then
gets signed back to the practice squad, right get elevated
to that. I have a feeling he might fall into

(45:47):
that category this year. I mean we already saw it
once when he got cut to make room for someone
on the roster, and then he got resigned the very
next day. Yeah, just some you know, roster gymnastics. But
he's someone that Russell Wilson, obviously he's played with in
the past, has spoken about many times to the media,
somebody clearly likes and who's also made some plays between

(46:08):
the spring and the first few days. I need to.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Remind folks too, Russell Wilson is a big Greg dulcch fan.
Played with him in Denver as well.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
That is true. He made a couple of nice plays yesterday.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
He's done everything that's been asked of him. I think
he's had one drop past the whole offseason.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I think he's certainly looked better the first few days
of training camp than I thought he did in the spring.
I think he's already improved from the spring. He's definitely
picked it up. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
So the tight end room is really it's so deep, folks,
It really really is deep.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
All right.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Logan in California is next on the program. Hello, Hello,
good to talk to you.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
Longtime listener, first time college Well, thank you a young
young Giants fan from the West Coast. One thing I
wanted to say is I am very excited about Scabbitea
and just his aggression and the connection he has with Dart.
I love you, gotta love that. And I just have

(47:13):
two kind of broad questions. One, what do you think
is holding the giants back?

Speaker 5 (47:20):
For me?

Speaker 8 (47:20):
I think it's the offensive line. But my second question
is why does the media want to make it seem
like Dart is going to be the starter even though
Dabill said it day one that he's not going to
be the starter.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Which about it? Which way do you want, Matt? I'll
start with Scatterbough. Okay, I feel like it's the easier.
That's fine. Yeah. Well, first of all, the relationship between
Cam's cataboy and Jackson Dart has been on full display
honestly since they were both drafted. Since draft weekend, it

(47:58):
is clear that they have started bonding very quickly. I mean,
we put this little clip out on social media with
the two of them walking out to practice today. I
don't know if you saw this. Camp Scantabou. Camp Scataboo
was wearing Jackson darts jersey and Jackson Dard had camp
Scattabo's jersey in his hand, obviously, just goofing around a
little bit before practice.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
But dudes, these guys are two dudes.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah, right there, they the two of them especially, they
have personalities that they are not afraid to show. So yeah,
it's nice to see that relationship again. We said it
earlier camp Scattaboy is gonna have a role in this
offense and early on, like he did not do anything
really during the spring, but he's been I mean, seems
like full go since training camp started these first few days,

(48:41):
and his past catching ability for starters has been on
full display. I mean he's caught just about everything thrown
in his direction. Whether it's individual drills, team drills, doesn't matter.
He's catching absolutely everything. So yeah, I think between him
and Tyrone Tracy, I think they're gonna split, and Singletary
is going to get carries in this offense as well.

(49:03):
He's not just going to be banished to the bench
and you're never going to see him, I think, more
so than in the last couple of years. It's going
to be a my personal opinion, we don't know this,
but I think it's going to be sort of like
a running back by committee and maybe just ride to
hot Hand each week to see who's who's kind of
running better that week.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
In answer to your other question. I'll kind of throw
a question at you. Anytime you see a tweet or
an article that mentions Jackson Dart, are you going to
stop and pay some interest in it?

Speaker 8 (49:37):
I'm not, just because I remember Dable when they first
drafted him and he's like, no, he's going to be
sitting in the year like we're gonna wait.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
I really appreciate I appreciate your perspective because it shows
your high level of intelligence and the fact that you've
been listening to this program time and time again. But
there are many fans out there who the second they
hear or see the words Jackson Dart, they will stop
in their tracks. They will click, they will pay attention,

(50:09):
they will pluck down their change to buy the paper.
And that is as good a reason as anybody on
that side of the fence to continue to pepper home
the Jackson Darts story.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Not only that, but you know, we're in New York,
the New York market. It is a tough market for
a professional athelete. But there are just some some reporters
out there that just look for, you know, to stir
a little trouble, not naming names, but just the way
it is. And so despite the fact that Brian Davile

(50:44):
has made it so abundantly clear that Russell Wilson is
the starter. Sure enough, Day one of training camp, sitting
up there with Joe, Shane still gets the question is
there a competition for the starting quarterback job? And he
basically said, for the one millionth time, Russell Wilson as
our starter. So hopefully, at least for now, that will
quiet down those sort of questions and whispers or whatever,

(51:07):
because not to mention it as not only has Dabe
said that, but Russell Wilson has also just been the
best quarterback in practice. He's been terrific. He has looked great,
his arm looks so strong and lively. He's hitting almost
like most of his throws. So even if there was
a quarterback competition, which again there is not, he.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Would be Russell Wilson would be winning it by far right,
Yes he would.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Oh yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
And it's nice to just have.

Speaker 8 (51:35):
Some real leadership in the QB room. No offense to
the previous quarterback.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, this guy has won a Super Bowl, been to
a second, gone to ten Pro Bowls, has Hall of
Fame career numbers. There's nothing wrong with saying you have
great respect for Russell Wilson. It's perfectly fine.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Yeah. I mean again, the last three days and even
going back to the spring, when any player, whether it
was offense or defense, was asked about Russell Wilson, again,
nothing but the best positive things raving about him, about
his leadership, saying he knows what he wants. We hear
every the last three days. I feel like every single
person has said Russell Wilson just knows what he wants

(52:18):
out of this offense, and he's working with Dable with
Mike Kafka to sort of bring some of his ideas
in the way that he sort of envisions the offense
and collaborate with the two guys are actually running the
offense to make it so everyone is doing just They're
bringing out the strengths of everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
I'm going to give you a real quick story from
today's practice that'll show you exactly how much Russell Wilson
has ingrained himself into this locker room, not just with
his receivers or the offense. Today, when Wandell Robinson and
Brian Burns collided and they both went down, and they
were both down for a little bit of time, Russell

(52:59):
Willilson came running across the field to both guys when
they were down, checked on both guys, just like the
coaches and the trainers did. Robinson got up first and
he started to walk away as they took him inside,
Burns was still down. Russell Wilson stayed there, stayed there
and continued to check on Burns until he was satisfied

(53:24):
that he could then walk away. How many quarterbacks are
going to do that for an outside linebacker.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
I love that, man, Paul, You were getting me excited.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
All right, brother, you have a great day.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
Huh, thank you, Yes, thanks for taking my call anytime weekend.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
You too, Thanks logan call back YouTube question Little Geo
wants to know how does Russell look throwing over the middle.
He's made all the throws now to the point that
I discussed schematically. Yes, because of Russell Wilson's being under
six feet, if you get pushed to the front of

(54:00):
the pocket, that can be a problem because his passing
lanes are going to be intruded upon by the pass rush.
Wait till we get into pads, Wait till Monday comes
and there's full practices and we truly can see the
pass rush doing what they do under more normal conditions,

(54:22):
and then see what kind of plays they run and
how Russell Wilson can navigate those things. But in the past,
Seattle and Pittsburgh and Denver, they all had to be
aware that there are times you're gonna have to rely
more on rollouts because you have to give him clean
passing lanes and clean passing angles, and there are gonna

(54:45):
be times he won't have that in the front of
the pocket. That's just the nature of the beast. I
don't care how good this offensive line is or isn't.
You can't protect the front of the pocket on every
single play. There are gonna be times when guy's pushing, yeah,
for sure. And I mean, you know, having a quarterback
rollout is nothing new to the guys in this locker

(55:06):
room right here. That's been, you know, a thing that
the quarterbacks have been doing here the last couple of years,
in part because of the offensive line play. Of course,
I've just been keeping an eye on the chat and
I see some comments here about, you know, the arm
talent between Russ versus Jamis and saying that some people

(55:26):
here are saying that Jamis has more arm talent than Russ.
I will just say this, if the two of them
had a competition standing at the goal line, who could
throw the ball further? Jamis I think would probably be
able to throw the ball a little bit further down
the field. But in terms of accuracy, it's like, it's

(55:50):
not even close. I'm going to take Russell Wilson throwing
a fifty yard pass and hitting his receiver in stride
over Jamis, and that's nothing against Jamis. Is just Russelllson
is one of the best in the league at doing that.
And the one thing about Jamis over his entire career
has just been he's a little inaccurate. Sometimes he makes
an amazing throw, but then Mike come back to the

(56:13):
next play and have a throw that's a couple of
yards off. It's just the way it is. It's sort
of the Jamis Winston experiences. He's also looked pretty good
in the first couple of days. But in terms of,
you know, arm strength with accuracy, there's no doubt and
it's not even close that Russell Wilson is the best
quarterback in this room at that.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
See, the arm strength question to me is im material
because Russell Wilson's arm is plenty strong enough. If he
had a quote weak arm, now that becomes an issue.
But Russell Wilson has shown us, shown all of us
every single practice since he got here.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
He can make every throw. Not only that, but you know, people,
some people have been saying, you know, oh, Russ the
last couple of years, you know, he's really started his
game has started to fall. Even if you want to
argue that, the one thing you cannot argue by any
means is that he has gotten worse or unable to throw.
The deep pass that has been his bread and butter
these last time continues to be and has continue to

(57:10):
show that from the day he stepped onto the field
in the spring up until now, he's been hitting those
deep passes on such a consistent basis. Folks, that'll do it.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
For today's edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live, presented by Cadillac,
the official luxury vehicle of the New York Football Giants,
we are done for the week, but we will be
back with another live program as we are here every
single weekday two pm Eastern Time for a one hour
live show of Big Blue Kickoff Live. Remember there is
a practice here on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Check the weather report.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
We've already had a phone call telling us it could
be sketchy. So do check the weather report, Do check
all of the giant social media platforms. See what's going
on Sunday morning. If you see lightning, you know not
to come out. And if you can come out, and
if the practice is here, have a good time.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
We certainly enjoy having you and hope to see you
that And regardless of the weather, Paul and I will
be here. We will think John will be here TVD,
but we will be here. So all theocoverage on Giants
dot Com, the Giants Mobile app that will still be there.
Just like any normal day, rain or shine, we will
be here.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
From the Giants Podcast Studio presented by Hackensack Meridian Health,
Keep getting Better.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
He's Matt, I'm Paul.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
We'll see you again next time.
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