March 6, 2025 • 45 mins
Ep. 706 - Free Agency is just around the corner. How active will GM Monti Ossenfort be? Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley discuss how the Cardinals might address their needs on both sides of the ball in free agency and which available players would fit the price of admission. Plus, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst Matt Miller breaks down the depth at defensive line in this draft class and talks about how much he loved what the Cardinals did in the 2024 NFL Draft. And we take a moment to put the spotlight on Wolf after he announced he is stepping down as the Cardinals radio analyst after 20 amazing years in the booth.
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I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolfleck.
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The Fjord.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
The year was nineteen ninety five. Maybe it was early
ninety six. I don't know, it doesn't really matter. Ron
Wolfley retired from the NFL ten years, four Pro Bowls,
like most players, maybe not entirely his choice. Now fast
forward to twenty twenty five. This time around after a
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two decade run as an NFL analyst, including going viral
on NFL network more than once. Wolf most definitely calls
his shot hashtag you are not the boss of me.
As Wolf calls it a career, the rest of us
just got blindsided. We got earholds. Speaking of twenty years ago.
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I mean, I might go too around here, be very emotional.
It's my team mate, that's my analyst. So in the
very words that Ron Wolfley created on these airwaves, rise
up red Sea and congratulate Ron Wolfley on a job
really well done from the broadcast booth over the last
twenty years.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh, Paulie, that is just too nice, buddy, I really
do appreciate that. Listen, this has been fantastic. It really is.
All good things must come to an end. And that's
the way that I feel about this. Seven years, Paullie,
seven years as a Saint Louis Cardinal, a Phoenix Cardinal,
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an Arizona Cardinal, of course, in twenty years as an
Arizona Cardinal radio broadcaster, I have to tell you right now,
twenty seven years altogether, it just makes me feel so
good the organization. I've had a wonderful a wonderful time
with the organization. They've always always treated me with love
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and respect and professionalism, and I'm just so grateful and
thankful that i had the opportunity to be the Cardinal
color analysts for the last twenty years, two decades. And
you know, once again, I'm a situation, Paulie, where you
know this and I know because we've talked about it
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many times. But I've got a sixteen year old and
a fifteen year old, and man, when I was in
the NFL, I had four kids, of course, and I
had a tendency to be myopic, and when i'd get
inundated with work, i would block a lot of things
out and I'd get blinders on. And I shouldn't have
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been in the NFL ten days, let alone ten years.
And I knew that, and because of that, I missed
a lot of things when my kids were younger, Paulie.
And now the second time around, of course, with a
warrior queen, the beautiful Miss Stephanie and my two kids.
Now I feel like I've got a second chance, Paulie,
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kind of a second chance, and I don't want to
do this same thing. And the older i'd get and
now that I'm sixty two, Paulie. You know this, I've
got to work more. The older I get, I've got
to work more. I've got to work harder than I
did when I was forty two in this business. And
because of that, the blinders were going on. And I
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want to slow it down and be present for my
kids and be present for my God as well.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Very understandable on all levels. Not only well said, well done,
you know what, great job, a great example to everyone
else on keeping your priorities in order. And the good
news is Ron Wolfley stepping away from Cardinals game day duties.
But not the big red rage presented by Santan forty right, Paulie,
we are Santan Ford, and you know Tim Hovick saying
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it's all about you. Well, wolf I know you don't
necessarily like this. It's now all about you. It's twenty
years of memories are on Jim A. Mahundro. He could
have gone with two hours of wolf Ley, but he
boiled it down to two minutes plus. So here we
go our own two minute drill, flashing back the cold
tub time machine into wolfleisms from over the years.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Time for a big red budgeting grab a club, put
on the kilt and charge across the field. Larry Fitzgerald
could catch a bee with chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did you see n Kwan Bolden run that ball?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That guy could run through a landslide in flip flops.
Larry Fitzgerald could catch a bebe with his teeth. Davedra
and Wilson just ate his liver with falla beans in
a fine candy. A fight broke out at the point
of attacking the Cardinals offensive line at a battle axe
and the Browns front seven had a butterdyke bo I
was at a bloody hamburger? Did you see that in there?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Kitner?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Patter, pitter patter, Here comes the splatter, no way toll,
just all Tasmanian devils.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You know he's just doing that hold on the ball,
on the ball, in the gas, run the ball, that
ball on the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You want to talk about a guy doing his count
Dracula impersonation. He's in the pine box. It looks like
he's done, and the next thing you know, the sun
goes down and out he comes. You know, sometimes you're
the spear and sometimes you're the buffalo. And I think
Dugan right there would be mounted on a wall nicely.
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Sometimes you're the shish and sometimes you're the kabba. I
think Marshawn Lynch is sweating Terioki sauce.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Sometimes you're the heifer and sometimes you're the branding iron.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think right now, what they gotta do is stick
Adrian Wilson.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Go ahead and dump him in a cool barrel of water.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Two rights don't make it wrong, but two dings definitely
make a dong ding dog.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Itch is dead in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
The Cordinals half shot in the world, right for true,
the Cords.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
They're going to Super Bowl forty. The Arizona Cordinals Baby
go to show.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I forgot about the Fat Lady singing. That's uh. I
listen to that now and I realize I heard every
one of those moments live in my headsets down on
the sideline, and all the laughs are genuine. I mean
you and Dave. It was definitely one plus one equals three.
Is it possible to maybe boil everything down to maybe
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give us I know how you love power Poles Wolf,
give us like your top three memories, if you had
to really choose moments memories over twenty in the booth
calling every single Cardinals game, preseason, regular season, postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, Paully, Oh my goodness, man, can I just give
you one, Paully can keep you my favorite memory we
go overall? It would be the NFC Championship game. It
would be that January eighteenth, two thousand and nine, when
the Arizona Cardinals were playing the Philadelphia Eagles. Of course,
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that to me would be a Paulie when we all
realized on that fourth down. Do you remember that fourth
down play where the Arizona Cardinals lined up and they
came after Donovan McNabb. They came after him with cover
zero to win the game. Huns over the wall, man
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across the board, bring everybody. The flat top was there
in the secondary and they went after him. And man,
they got off the field on that fourth down and
we realized, all of us, the Arizona Cardinals were going
to the super Bowl. That was in two thousand and nine. Man,
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And that is a sensation, that is a feeling that
it's really really hard to forget that. I think, Paulie
would be my favorite moment of those twenty years. How
about you, paul did you have a favorite moment in
the last two decades?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I mean, I want to go with Kurt Warner out
dueling a young Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs, right, five touchdowns,
four and completions. I want to go with Larry Fitzgerald's
seventy five yards and the hail Larry after getting it
from Carson Palmer to win another Packard playoff game went over.
But the NFC Championship to this day is the loudest
sporting event I've ever attended or covered. There you go,
(09:48):
I would agree with you on that one. We're just
getting wrong. It is a big red rage. Well here
from Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft analysts. Next on the
big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Back game was Roy Grant of the zone six yards day,
He's gonna run it out.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's out to the tenth, turns it to the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Left side of the twenty twenty five thirty thirty five morning,
he might go all the way.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He's at the morning, He's at the tunny, he's at
the ten.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He is Then for the touchdown Roy Gray around one
hundred and a half or six.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yards I was waiting for he called on a pay
phone in my dorm and the payphone was on the
third floor.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And I was on the second floor. The basketball team
was on the third floor. I says, hey, guys, listen
for the phone for me. If it rings, it might
be for me. So everybody was on alert. But I
did have a distraction. They say you need distractions on
draft day. A tornado hit. Are you see a tornado
hit that morning, right before the draft? And I'm like,
oh God, I worked this hard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm not going to get a chance to go down.
Don't take me down. Oh man.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
They always entertaining Royen Jetstream himself on his Draft day
recollection nineteen seventy nine out of Henderson State.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, I mean, if.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You can play, you will play, and they will find you.
And Roy Green is evidence of that. In fact, there's
a twenty twenty five application Roy Green. As we say,
welcome back into the Big Red Rage, presented by Santanne
Ford and Gilbert We are Santane Ford. Well, you're from
ESPN NFL draft analyst Matt Miller momentarily, but I recently
had a chance to talk to Roy Green, you're former
teammate Wolf about Travis Hunter. Because not since Roy Jetstream Green.
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Have you seen a legit two way skill player like
Roy and now Travis Hunter? And Roy said he sees
him as a dB mixed in a little bit on offense.
But he said, there's no way you can play eighty
ninety snaps in a game. That's just not gonna happen
out over seventeen games. So he's got to choose. But
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he thinks he can be an elite corner and then
be a really effective weapon on offense.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Travis Hunter again, No, I'm with him on that one.
PAULI right there. I do believe that. I think again,
if you were going to take a true wide receiver one,
and you were going to take a true CB one,
and if you asked a talent evaluator, what would you
rather have you if you could pick between what it
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was that he was going to be a true wide
receiver one or a CB one, I think most general
managers would take the corner. I think most general managers
would say, give me a true CB one, A guy
that will go out there and be able to guard
anybody in the National Football League. That is such a
huge advantage, especially if you're a big man team.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
You know what's interesting is the Associated Press put out
their mock draft one point zero earlier today and they
have the Cardinals taking Will Johnson corner out of Michigan. Wow,
haven't seen that one yet. So that's that's interesting because Wolf,
I mean hit zoom out in the first two years
of manti usin for it right me. It's sort of
like the Lions with Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes, who
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was their first pick overall in their regime. Penny Sewell,
the now All Pro tackle Jim Harball last year comes
in his first pick, Joe Wall Joe, look at Ben
Johnson taking over the Bears. He's already traded for Joe
Toney and Jonah Jackson, two starting caliber guards right out
of the gate. It's it's this mantra you see it
with mantiasa Fort and Jonathan Gannon. They are building from
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the inside out, and so you have the likes of
like Albert Breer saying earlier today, Look, it's not a
great year to have a high draft pick, okay whatever.
Cardinals are right in the middle at number sixteen, field
Yates saying recently it is a great draft for front
offices that know what they're doing. So It's really intriguing
because you know what, this draft is deep where maybe
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the Cardinals need it most. And Wolf, let's listen to
an interview, a conversation Danny Surrek and Craig Griel who
had with the ESPN's Matt Miller. You can find him
at NFL Draft Scout, and here's part of the Q
and A from the common.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Let's just dive right into this draft class because what
you mentioned recently on Twitter was two positions of need
that the Cardinals have that this draft class is loaded,
and that would be edge and defensive tackle. What do
you like about the depth specifically on those two positions.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
This is the.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Deepest defensive line class I've ever evaluated. I think I
have thirty players that play edge or defensive tackle in
my top one twenty right now. So there's a lot
of top end guys like Abdil Carter, Mason Graham. They're
going to go really early in this draft. But there
is that depth, and I think it's a testament's like
so many players were developed, like Walter Nolan to go
from A and M to Ole Miss and we see
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him take that next step. There's always a couple guys
from Georgia. It feels like, and there's two this year
who are really good with Michael Williams and Jayla Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it is.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
It's fantastic, And it's so funny how this lines up
because everyone was down on this draft class and then
the Eagles go and beat the Chiefs in the super
Bowl with a great defensive line, and it's like, oh wait,
this draft exactly meets what's really in vogue right now,
which running backs and the defensive line. And that's where
this draft is strongest.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
When you talk about the depth defensive line, edge rushers,
what do you see in that depth that maybe Cardinals
could still get in a player like Day two, yeah,
or maybe even early Day three.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
No, there will be starters that come out of rounds
three and four in this class just because of that depth.
And also, you know, we're still seeing the guys who
are coming off that COVID year that where they got
the extra eligibility, So it has made it such a
deeper group where some of those guys would have been
in last year's class and they would have been second
or third round picks. But now we get this loaded
group of prospects. So I do think you're in a
great spot. If you wait until round two, they're still
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going to be starter level players. Or if you, like
you said, if you want to even push it off
to day three, I think you can find players. You know,
Like a name that comes to mind for me is
Vernon Broughton from Texas. He was a one year starter
there because they were loaded at defensive tackle. In that
one year. I mean, he just completely popped on tape
and you're like, oh my gosh, this guy's such a
good athlete. He had so much potential. He just only
got to play for one year because they had such
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great defensive lineman ahead of him. So, like, that's a
kind of a great analogy for this class as a
whole list. There's a lot of guys that just had
to wait their turn, and then once they got that opportunity,
they took that next step.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
You brought up the Super Bowl, and it's something that
we've referenced a lot based off what is going on
at least those playoff teams that were successful based off
the line of scrimmage. Do you find yourself evaluating now
draft prospects maybe a little bit differently based off what
is in vogue in the league. Does it have trickled
down to what you see in the college ranks.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, it does, and I think for like for what
I do, it doesn't really change how you evaluate individual players,
but it definitely changes, you know, like when we do
mock drafts, it's like, Okay, we're going to see a
rush on defensive linemen, probably because that is a copycat league, right,
Everybody wants to win the line of scrimmage, so offensive
lineman defensive linemen kind of expect them to go off
the board a little bit earlier. And on the college side,
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it has been really fun watching, you know, especially the
teams that cost you all playoffs this year, Ohio State, Texas,
Penn State, Notre Dame. They dominated the line of scrimmage
both sides of the ball, and so I do think
we see that in the college game right now too.
If yes, we all love like quarterbacks and Travis Hunter,
who you know, can do everything, it seems like on
a football field, but the great teams in college are
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dominating at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
You spent a lot of time looking through and evaluating
and talking about handful of those rookies this time last year,
players like Marvin Harrison Junior, Darius Robinson, Max Mountain, What
did you see from them in their rookie year and
what a realistic progression for year two could be for
players like that?
Speaker 9 (17:30):
You know, right after the draft, I think I gave
the Cardinals my highest draft grade and I just remember that,
like I loved the draft class. When you run through
it's like, gosh, I had first round grades on that guy.
That guy, I had like a top fifty on that one. So,
I mean, such a good year, and I think, you know,
with what Marvin did your one, I mean there's a
lot of a lot of progress, and it's just like
finding the right way to get him involved in the
offense so that he can have that breakout year, getting
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he and Kyler on the same page. I think for
a lot of the rookie receivers, people expected, you know,
greatness right out of the gate. That doesn't always happened.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
White out.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
I mean, Cardinals fans will remember, you know, with Larry
Fitzgerald and Ankum Bolden, like it takes time sometimes to
have those big, those big impacts. So Terius Robinson's another
guy who he just needed developed. He was so rawled,
there's so much potential there. So I think, you know,
getting into year two with both of those, you know,
guys who I had as first round picks and top
twenty five players, I still think the sky's the limit
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for what they can be. They just both needed a
little bit of development.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
There you go, Matt Miller, ESPN Draft Analysts. You can
find the entire conversation and it's good stuff Cardinals Cover
two via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you gear podcasts. You
can also check out the video version on the Cardinals
official YouTube page, YouTube dot com, slash Asy Cardinals and
there's a lot of big names you're gonna find there
as well. I mean, Daniel Jeremiah, Charles, Davis Wolf. What
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stood out to you the most there, Matt Miller from
the combine last week and just where the Cardinals are
in this twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, I would say Pauli more than anything else is
him talking about how much he loved the draft class
last year from the Arizona Cardinals. I thought that was
significant right there, and it made me think of the
fact that the Arizona Cardinals, if you go back and
look at the last two seasons twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four, and how many from those two draft classes,
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how many guys are actually either starters or in the
rotation getting an awful lot of playing time. Paulie, there's
like thirteen or fourteen guys that are year two or
less that are are getting significant snaps or just starters
for the Arizona Cardinals. You know, you think of a
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Max Melton and how much he has developed in one year.
You think of Garrett Williams, Oh my goodness, Garrett Williams
and the way he developed in two years. And Dante Stills, Pauli,
this guy is in the rotation for the defensive line
in I'm just so impressed with these two draft classes.
That's what I tend to focus on as well.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Okay, So with that in mind, because last two years,
think about it, twenty twenty three, you led the NFL
and rookie starts, rookie snaps. Yes, last year you had
a twelve player draft class, so it was let the
rooks cook to the point where the four draft classes
before Monti ausin for it, there are three starters left Kyler,
Trey McBride, Zavin Collins. Wow, you also have Victor Dan
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Mucage have Jesse Luketo. We're not sure about their future
of their status. Will probably find out next week. But
at this point, well, going into this draft, is it
now maybe quality over quantity. For example, if there's an
edge guy that you cover it and he's on the
board at twelve, he's on the board at thirteen, all
of a sudden, instead of trading down and maximizing picks,
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maybe you go after that guy because he's maybe the
one guy you need at this point, that premiere pass Rusher,
if he is that valuable to you. I wonder if
all of a sudden there's a different approach in this draft.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It could be Paully, It really could. It's gonna be
fascinating to see what Monti assin for does because you
know Moni's not afraid to make a move or dune.
He'll definitely do that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
For me.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I tend to focus on a guy like Tyler Booker
when you love to have Tyler Booker be a starting
guard on this offensive line. And I know everyone says,
look at the combine, look at the combine, paul Look
at the tape, not the tape measure, Look at the tape,
Paulie and watch him play. He is by far and
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away the best interior offensive lineman. The Arizona Cardinals need
that guy. And guess what if he falls down? Boy,
that seems to play right into Monny austin Ford's hands
if he falls down. Isn't there a possibility that MONI
could say, well, you know what, there's a lot of
defensive linemen and edge guys in this draft. And that's
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what Matt Miller was just talking about. There's an awful
lot of defensive linemen in this draft. Why not go
ahead and collect some picks, trade back where you still
might have a shot at getting Tyler book at number
twenty five, number twenty six, somewhere in that vicinity, and
collect some picks that you can use on the defensive
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line in the second round.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Maybe you know, a somewhat lackluster combine showing by Tyler
Booker works to the Cardinals advantage. Correct, Maybe he's there
at sixteen. I'll personally run the card up to the podium.
If he is, I have no So.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Paulie, you're saying right there, Oh, what if you could
even trade down from sixteen and still get him?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Then again, Daniel Jeremiah posted his top fifty players post combine. Now,
not how they're going to be drafted, just how he
ranks the players one through fifty and twenty is Michael
Williams the edge rusher out of Georgia twenty one, Mike
Green the edge out of Marshall twenty two, James Pierce
Junior out of Tennessee twenty seven, Shamar Stewart, so the
Cardinals could have their pick of an edge guy. Will
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continue to talk off season free agency. Next, the Big
Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilberte.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Snapped to Murray caskplay Murray with times buyers deep middle
end zone for Harrison, and Harrison.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Made the catch.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Man got his feet down for the touchdown. First NFL
score for Marvin Harrison Junior. The first of many to come.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Throw the twinkie into the toaster. Kyler Murray, Oh my goodness,
right on the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Play action of food to the right.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Murray looking downfield, now loves it deep here sign Harrison
caught it at a cunning hit the ten. Harrison dies to.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The end zone.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
He's in touchdown. Like a tear falling from your cheek, baby,
That ball came straight down out of the sky. Kylo
again drops a dime and Marvin Harrison Junior stretches out
and the pig breaks the played all that is off.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So a lot of memorable moments there from Marvin Harrison
Junior his rookie campaign twenty twenty four. In fact, you
go back in Cardinals team history, as we say, welcome
back into the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford
and Gilbert Paul calvec Ron wolfully and that team history
goes back more than a century, by the way, most
receiving yards by a rookie in a single season, and
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Kwon Bolden won Marvin Errison Junior. Two, some guy named
Larry Fitzgerald. Fifth, Frank Sanders, our guest recently here on
the Big Red Rage. Third, and remember what he said
about Marvin Rison Junior. He will be a different receiver
in year two. That was Frank's prediction. He said, that's
how much he thinks he's going to navigate the learning
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curve and accelerate. And he said one thing Marvin Harrison
Junior did not have as a rookie that he had
with Rob Moore than Larry had with an Kwon Bolden.
That is wide receiver one to take a lot of
heat off him. But that was Marvin and and you
know he always got a defenses. He was the center
of attention, and all the gravitational poll came his way.
So now, I mean, what do you think, well, I mean,
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for all the numbers he put up, what is the
upside Marvin Harrison Junior in year two?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Okay, Paully, you know I was really really high on
Marvin Harrison Junior to begin with. I'd like to refer
to it as the danger zone. I was in the
danger zone on Marvin Harrison Junior because I truly believed
he was going to come in and be wide receiver
one from day one, wide receiver one from day one. Now, look,
he was wide receiver one for the Arizona Cardinals. But
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you know, when you think about it, this is a
guy that had a very very good year. But my
expectation was so high. I thought he was going to
come in and he was absolutely going to dominate right
from the get go. Why because of his extreme talent
and because of his extreme work ethic. You put those
two things together right there, Marvin Harrison Junior was going
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to be lights out. Having said all of that right now,
what is the mantra with JG and maniasin for it.
Right now, we're just talking about the draft class. We're
just talking about year one to year two. Marvin Harrison
Junior is going to go into year two with year
one behind him and all of that goodness behind him,
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in all of that hooplah if you will, behind him,
and now he's going to be able to focus on
just getting better as a wide receiver in year two.
I expect Marvin Harrison Junior to explode this season.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So Kyler Murray with two games to go in the
year said, you know what, our connection, Yeah, it's been productive,
but it can be better. It should be better. It
will be better. That was Kyler Murray to the media.
Here's maniasin for the GM on that connection talking with
Danny Surrek one on one at the combine.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
Yeah, I think with Kyler and Marv, as with everybody
in our roster as a whole, Like, everybody's competitive and
the goal is to perform at a high level, and
those guys they want to do it at a high
level all the time. And so you know, I know
those guys are working hard. Those guys hooked up on
a lot of big plays, a lot of explosive plays,
scoring plays, and I know there's more to comment. So
I know those two are going to do what it
takes along with the rest of our offense to you know,
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make us more explosive, make us more multiple, and continue
to put our offense in a position to score points.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
All right, So well, obviously the GM money as a
board isn't showing his hand in free agency or the draft.
But considering right now, under contract, Cardinals have Marmon Arson,
junior Michael Wilson along with Xavier Weaver and then restricted
free agent Greg Dorch, with Penning, free agent Zay Jones
and Zach Paskell. Do you expect a free agent veteran
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receiver to come the Cardinals' way in free agency, which,
by the way, you can start negotiating Monday, you can
start signing Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, PAULI, you know it's going to be really interesting
to see if that does happen. Right now, when I
think of the Arizona Cardinals in this offseason, Paulie, I
have a tendency. This is just me and I'm not
trying to pooh pooh, which you said with a wide
receiver of course. But for me right now, I'm thinking
about the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
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This is Monti assen Ford, this is Jonathan Gannon. This
is their belief their philosophy on both sides of the ball.
And when I'm going to the free agent period, for me,
if I were a general manager, I'd want to sign
offensive lineman. Paul. I'd want to sign old linemen, especially
if I felt like I had to build my offensive
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line back up, and I think Monti ausen Ford and
JG both believe this offensive line needs to be addressed
once again and built back up. And for me, I'd
rather when it comes to free agency, I'm not really
big on going after defensive linemen in free agency. I'm
not big on that. For the most part. I'm big
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on going after defensive lineman in the draft because you
can get these young guys coming out and so much
of the time there isn't a mental capacity that you
have to worry about in regard to these young rookies
coming in and making an impact immediately, because a defensive
lineman is typically about, hey, this is the gap you
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need to be in. Okay, you need to know the
gap you're in and oh, by the way, rush the quarterback,
get to the quarterback. A lot of young guys can
come in and make a difference on the defensive line
offensive linemen. The brain part of it comes into play,
the brainiact part of it, where you've got to be
able to understand multiple fronts in certain situations and multiple situations.
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Of course, that the variables are all over the place
for an offensive lineman. And that's the reason why I
like to address that position in free agency poly because
you have all of this tape. You have a huge
amount of tape in front of you typically that you
can watch and figure out if this guy is worthy
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of the money you're probably going to have to pay him.
I like it. I think it's a more reliable way
to do it. The offensive line free agents defensive line draft.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Now it makes sense. You know, offensive line plug and play.
You can rely on that guy. You know, if you
have a rookie defensive lineman at least you can you know,
get them spot play, situational type assignments. Right, it is
d lineman coming in waves. You saw what the Eagles
did in the Super Bowl. So with that in mind,
a young player or a veteran. That is the question
to the GM MANIACI for once again at the combine
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from our Danny Sirek.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
In terms of roster building, that's something that it's always
going to be.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's going to be both.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
You can't rely on one. There's different mechanisms throughout the
league year that for roster building. And we just happen
to be coming up on two of the most important
between free agency and the draft. So I think it's
a combination of the two. And really how one free
agency are moving? Free agency effects, so what happens in
the draft and vice versa, and so those are things
that we have to collectively look at and ultimately make
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the best decisions as we build the not only the
twenty twenty five Cardinals, but just into the future as well.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
And keep in mind Evan Brown Will Hernandez both free agents.
The two study guards much of last year. But well,
if when you look at receivers, not only had the
Cardinals been in the division, I mean think of all
the activity if you will the Niners Deebo Samuel traded
to Washington, Brandy nay Yuk reportedly on the block rams
are they trying to trade Cooper cup or what they
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just signed two to two at Well today to a
one year, ten million dollar deal guarantee two two at Well.
I mean he he' said four touchdowns in four years.
That's a no comprendo to me. DK Metcalf wants a
trade from the Seahawks. Rumors are the Raiders or Green Bay.
We'll see. They just cut Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Oh ding ding ding.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He's thirty two. Well if he looked a little step
slow last year, did he not? You're on board with
Tyler Lockett?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Huh, yes, no, I am.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
As a matter of fact, yeah, PAULI yeah, I think
he was a step slower, There's no doubt about it.
Every now and then, as you age, you've got to
be reminded of just how difficult it is to play
in the National Football League. And sometimes when you get
up to thirty two. Oh well, let's see, I was
thirty two right there, Paly. As a matter of fact,
I knew exactly what that felt like. And now all
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of a sudden, you got a guy like Tyler Lockett
at thirty two years of age. I think that might
have been the best thing that could happen to him.
I think the team that gets Tyler Lockett this time
around after getting released by the Seattle Seahawks. I think
that team is really gonna benefit because this is a
guy who's got great game speed too. He's not just
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a guy who's a four to four. He's a legitimate
four to four guy to me. But when he gets
in between the white lines, Tyler Lockett's gonna run as
fast as he can to get the ball, and that
to me is a rare talent. I still think he's
got the talent to be a deep threat and provide
a little aid comfort and shelter to short and intermediate
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route runner like a Trey McBride or like even Marvin
Harrison junior.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
All Right, so if you are thinking of a speed receiver,
what about dot dot dot a reunion with Hollywood Brown.
We are also thinking Christian Kirk. But then a couple
hours ago he got traded to Houston for a round
seven picks. So the Texans are going to take on
his existing contract, which is like sixteen point five. He's
in the final year of the deal. We're thinking Hollywood Brown.
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He's like, you know, bff with Kyler Murray. Right, he
still has that top end speed, or there's some bigger
names out there well, Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen,
Davante Adams. Do you think there's a splash signing perhaps
to add to the wide receiver room, Man.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
PAULI, I don't know about that. You are so right
about it. The names that are out there right now.
I'm just the fact Joey Bosa is out there blows
my mind even now. I know we're talking about wide
receivers and we're talking about offense, but it is incredible.
I had the opportunity to talk to Field Yates today.
As a matter of fact, Paully and Field Yates was
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talking about the fact that, man, the NFL, there's so
much money that is being thrown around out there when
you sign these free agents that by the time you
hit year four or even year three, to some degree,
in these contracts, there's no guaranteed money and it's almost
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like you can just let the guy go and yeah,
you're gonna have some type of cap hit. Yet at
the same time, this is why he thinks there's so
many big names that are out there in free agency
being cut as the new league year comes up, that's
coming up March twelfth. He thinks there's a lot of
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people that are being let go right now because this
is the new NFL. This is the way that it's
gonna work. You're gonna go ahead and you're gonna sign
guys up front, and then that last year, maybe even two,
you're not even gonna worry about it.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Okay, So speaking of do you think Jalen Thompson might
be in the crosshairs that very scenario. You just describe
Jalen Thompson as the third highest cap number on this team,
zero guaranteed money this coming year, and we all know
the sort of finish that rabbit put on the field
to his rookie season. I do wonder if that is
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a move we should semi expect here over the next
week or so.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
That is a great point, PAULI, It really is. And
you know, Jalen Thompson, I know you feel exactly the
same way. This is a great football player, but this
is the modern day National Football League. You're a mercenary
and everyone knows it.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So we talked about quarterback. We've talked about protect that quarterback.
Let's talk about get to the quarterback. What the Cardinals
might have in mind. What is available. That is next.
It is the Arizona Cardinals Big Red Rage presented by
santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And up up the middle.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
B j o Jalari is there to grab Rodriguez at
the line of scrimmage. Snapped the Jackson He's gonna throw
it from the pocket, looking in trouble, wrapped up and
thrown down for a sack. Bjo Jalari gets his first sack.
The rookie out of Lsu gets a big sack here
on Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Closed down Lamar Jackson quickly and got the sack.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That is big time by bj.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Heinekee playfake in trouble, hits and sacked by b j
o Jalari back at the ten yard line, a loss of.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
About ten oh. That is a big sack.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Back to pass goes Heinikey with time now the pocket collapses.
He Heinicky sack back at the nine yard line. Bjojalari
having a breakout game with his second sack, horsing a
punt all the rookie once again would not be denied.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
So wolf I was on the road last weekend. The
flight didn't have wi fi so oh, I'm sitting there
and I'm eliminating old videos from my phone and there
are a lot of a lot of training camp videos
before BG o Jeli went down with the season ending
knee injury, and I cannot tell you how many videos
in olne D line drills he was making Cardinals starting
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o'd Linman look stupid. I mean, he was so good
early in camp. He was so fluid, he was so fast,
the explosion off the edge, some of the rip moves,
some of the spin moves, his counter moves, and he's
such an unknown though. As we say, welcome back into
the final seven of the Big Red Race, presented by
Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. If you're
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MANI a support and Jonathan Gannon, I mean, what do
you make of BG o Jelari and what's his fit
this year on your depth chart?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's gonna be. That's gonna be determined, Balie. You know,
once again, it's one thing to look at a guy
and be able to project him as you well know,
and quite another thing to actually see him out there.
The first thing that's going to happen to bj o
Deelry is he's got to be healthy, and once he's healthy,
he's going to be really, really confident. I cannot wait
to see how this young guy grows. I really really
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am looking forward to it. And I hope, of course,
he's not going to be one of these guys that
is going to have to deal with injuries throughout his
entire career. Hopefully he's going to be a guy that's
going to get relatively healthy. You're never going to be
one hundred percent. That's not going to happen. But hopefully
for him, he's going to be able to stay healthy
enough to where he can actually develop an NFL career.
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And we'll see how that goes right there. But man,
this free agent period right now, there's a lot of
really good edge players that are out there. It's a
lot of good defensive linemen as well.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And you know what, Jonathan Ganna at the combine, he
was pretty honest with the media said, that's one area
where we need to get better getting after the quarterback,
and that's one position that you know they're looking up great.
My question to you, Ron Walfley, might there be a
splash move, a splash signing this offseason? You know, Cavin ball.
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All of a sudden, you mentioned Joey Boso. Okay, he's
out there. We know that Max Crosby just signed a
ridiculous contract. He's now the highest paid non quarterback in
the league. Trey Hendrickson earlier today was granted permission to
seek a trade from the Cincinnati Bengals. Wow, he's due
sixteen million in the final year of his contract. They
can't agree on an extension. Remember, he's had seventeen and
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a half sacks each of the last two years, NFL
sack leader last year. But he's aged thirty. Then there's
all there's all the Miles Garrett buzz. A lot of
people think that if Abduall Carter is there at two,
the Browns take Abduall Carter as their future edge guy
and then they trade Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So you know, boy, you're going deep on this one.
Paul A Man, it's and it's this time of year.
It's one of the great things about the NFL, isn't it.
Where do you start on this one?
Speaker 6 (39:57):
You know, well, I'll tell you what. Why don't we
hear from Jonathan and what he looks for in an
edge rusher, and then you take it from there, here's
the head coach just what appeals to him when he's
scouting that position.
Speaker 12 (40:09):
Can you rush the passer? Can you whoop a guy
in the run game? It's a little bit of drought
kind of the scheme that we play, you know, But
I think the first thing that you know you're looking
for is can this guy be disrupted in the passing game?
And I think that's one of the things, you know,
taking the full three sixty five look at us. I
think that's a way that we can improve our team
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is to disrupt the quarterback a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
There it is, there's the comment I was talking about,
and so what do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
And what?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I mean the urgency is there, right.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. The urgency is there
on the edge of course for the Arizona Cardinals, and
that's one of the reasons why I think they're going
to be players on the Josh Sweat free agency. I mean,
not to me once again, PAULI it is even Hassan Reddick, Paul,
Can I throw that out there?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Could I just throw that out there?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
No, that's that's aw ye, who knows, Paully.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I mean, maybe Nick Rolis. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Maybe he had an awesome relationship with Hassan Reddick, maybe
it was Jag as well. I just think that is
something to keep in mind as well Hassan Reddick. But
Josh Sweat. If I was gonna if I was going
to go ahead and unload some money, if I was
going to be aggressive in the offseason, and I was
going to sign a free agent where I'm going to
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pay top dollar for, I think Josh Sweat might be
that guy's He just showed so much. Of course, he's
getting better as far as I'm concerned now. I know
he's been in the league for seven years, but still
he's getting better right now, and I think we saw
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that in the Super Bowl with two and a half sacks.
Josh Sweat, I think is in line to make an
awful lot of money. And if I were Josh Sweat,
I would hope the Arizona Cardinals would be involved in
wanting me as a free agent because from what I'm told,
he's got a really good relationship with those two guys.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
And you know that's the Cardinal's competitive advantage, right because
Mania said it more than once, there's always that little
trepidation because you don't truly know a guy right and
he can't really meet him as much as you can
at a combine, etc. Because he's a veteran bod. With
Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon knowing him so well, they
know exactly what they would be signing to the dotted
line if that's indeed the case. How about Baron Browning?
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And I bring that up because the Cardinals gave up
a six round pick middle last season. He's a little
banged up, but then the last month of the season,
right he got reps and according to the stats week
ten through eighteen next Gen Stats, he was fourteenth in
the league in QB pressure rate the second half of
the season, right between Brian Burns and Miles Garrett. This
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and he's only got four years in the league, so
he's coming into his prime.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yes, PAULI you know I'm looking at that right now.
The pass rush win rate of fourteen teen point three percent.
What you just about Baron Browning? And did you know
Pro Football Focus has got him ranked number five. I
think I told you this last week, but he's number five, Paul,
in terms of free agents that are out there right
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now on the edge that's really really good. Listen, who
knows where they're going to go on this? To me,
I think that's where I would be aggressive. Money talks
about it all the time. You don't want to go
into the draft needing to draft somebody that's going to
come in and have to start for you right from
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the get go. You want to be able to address
your roster needs via free agency. Go out and address
those needs so that you can go into the draft
with a free mind and take the best guy you
think is available.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
The underrated storyline or need or want in free agency
for me is still middle linebacker. What is the status
at Kaizier White? He was so critical to this defense
each of the last two years. Is there a free
agent out there who's a little younger and there are
a number of them that are more twenty five twenty
six years of age?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
What do you do?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Or I'm putting on my oven mits right now, Wolf
for an ultra hot take. Okay, you ready for this?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
What about Zamon Collins back in middle linebacker?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Oh? Man, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
I didn't think about that. I will be honest with you,
but that wouldn't be a bad way to go. Maybe
try that out there. There are some free agents. Joy
green Law, I'll take yeah, yeah, I'll take green Law.
I'll'll throw him in there. Okay, that'd be That's gonna
be a lot of money for green Law.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Nick Bolton from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Oh yeah, all Bolden, I love him. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
I mean, come on, the Chiefs can't afford everyone, right,
I mean, they gotta let somebody go over there.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
See Paulie.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Bobby Wagner's out there, that's true, just saying yeah. I mean,
oh my gosh, yeah, a little long in the tee.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I mean, if Kalais Campbell can be thirty nine, then
I guess Bobby Wagner can keep going. I guess it's
all right.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
So you know what, I'll take Kalayis right now, Yeah, yes,
right now.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
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I'm one hundred percent ready.
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I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolfleck.
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
The Fjord.
Speaker 6 (01:02):
The year was nineteen ninety five. Maybe it was early
ninety six. I don't know, it doesn't really matter. Ron
Wolfley retired from the NFL ten years, four Pro Bowls,
like most players, maybe not entirely his choice. Now fast
forward to twenty twenty five. This time around after a
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two decade run as an NFL analyst, including going viral
on NFL network more than once. Wolf most definitely calls
his shot hashtag you are not the boss of me.
As Wolf calls it a career, the rest of us
just got blindsided. We got earholds. Speaking of twenty years ago.
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I mean, I might go too around here, be very emotional.
It's my team mate, that's my analyst. So in the
very words that Ron Wolfley created on these airwaves, rise
up red Sea and congratulate Ron Wolfley on a job
really well done from the broadcast booth over the last
twenty years.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Oh, Paulie, that is just too nice, buddy, I really
do appreciate that. Listen, this has been fantastic. It really is.
All good things must come to an end. And that's
the way that I feel about this. Seven years, Paullie,
seven years as a Saint Louis Cardinal, a Phoenix Cardinal,
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an Arizona Cardinal, of course, in twenty years as an
Arizona Cardinal radio broadcaster, I have to tell you right now,
twenty seven years altogether, it just makes me feel so
good the organization. I've had a wonderful a wonderful time
with the organization. They've always always treated me with love
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and respect and professionalism, and I'm just so grateful and
thankful that i had the opportunity to be the Cardinal
color analysts for the last twenty years, two decades. And
you know, once again, I'm a situation, Paulie, where you
know this and I know because we've talked about it
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many times. But I've got a sixteen year old and
a fifteen year old, and man, when I was in
the NFL, I had four kids, of course, and I
had a tendency to be myopic, and when i'd get
inundated with work, i would block a lot of things
out and I'd get blinders on. And I shouldn't have
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been in the NFL ten days, let alone ten years.
And I knew that, and because of that, I missed
a lot of things when my kids were younger, Paulie.
And now the second time around, of course, with a
warrior queen, the beautiful Miss Stephanie and my two kids.
Now I feel like I've got a second chance, Paulie,
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kind of a second chance, and I don't want to
do this same thing. And the older i'd get and
now that I'm sixty two, Paulie. You know this, I've
got to work more. The older I get, I've got
to work more. I've got to work harder than I
did when I was forty two in this business. And
because of that, the blinders were going on. And I
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want to slow it down and be present for my
kids and be present for my God as well.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
Very understandable on all levels. Not only well said, well done,
you know what, great job, a great example to everyone
else on keeping your priorities in order. And the good
news is Ron Wolfley stepping away from Cardinals game day duties.
But not the big red rage presented by Santan forty right, Paulie,
we are Santan Ford, and you know Tim Hovick saying
(04:48):
it's all about you. Well, wolf I know you don't
necessarily like this. It's now all about you. It's twenty
years of memories are on Jim A. Mahundro. He could
have gone with two hours of wolf Ley, but he
boiled it down to two minutes plus. So here we
go our own two minute drill, flashing back the cold
tub time machine into wolfleisms from over the years.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Time for a big red budgeting grab a club, put
on the kilt and charge across the field. Larry Fitzgerald
could catch a bee with chopsticks.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Did you see n Kwan Bolden run that ball?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
That guy could run through a landslide in flip flops.
Larry Fitzgerald could catch a bebe with his teeth. Davedra
and Wilson just ate his liver with falla beans in
a fine candy. A fight broke out at the point
of attacking the Cardinals offensive line at a battle axe
and the Browns front seven had a butterdyke bo I
was at a bloody hamburger? Did you see that in there?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Kitner?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Patter, pitter patter, Here comes the splatter, no way toll,
just all Tasmanian devils.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
You know he's just doing that hold on the ball,
on the ball, in the gas, run the ball, that
ball on the ball.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
You want to talk about a guy doing his count
Dracula impersonation. He's in the pine box. It looks like
he's done, and the next thing you know, the sun
goes down and out he comes. You know, sometimes you're
the spear and sometimes you're the buffalo. And I think
Dugan right there would be mounted on a wall nicely.
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Sometimes you're the shish and sometimes you're the kabba. I
think Marshawn Lynch is sweating Terioki sauce.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Sometimes you're the heifer and sometimes you're the branding iron.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
I think right now, what they gotta do is stick
Adrian Wilson.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Go ahead and dump him in a cool barrel of water.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Two rights don't make it wrong, but two dings definitely
make a dong ding dog.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Itch is dead in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
The Cordinals half shot in the world, right for true,
the Cords.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
They're going to Super Bowl forty. The Arizona Cordinals Baby
go to show.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I forgot about the Fat Lady singing. That's uh. I
listen to that now and I realize I heard every
one of those moments live in my headsets down on
the sideline, and all the laughs are genuine. I mean
you and Dave. It was definitely one plus one equals three.
Is it possible to maybe boil everything down to maybe
(07:50):
give us I know how you love power Poles Wolf,
give us like your top three memories, if you had
to really choose moments memories over twenty in the booth
calling every single Cardinals game, preseason, regular season, postseason.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, Paully, Oh my goodness, man, can I just give
you one, Paully can keep you my favorite memory we
go overall? It would be the NFC Championship game. It
would be that January eighteenth, two thousand and nine, when
the Arizona Cardinals were playing the Philadelphia Eagles. Of course,
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that to me would be a Paulie when we all
realized on that fourth down. Do you remember that fourth
down play where the Arizona Cardinals lined up and they
came after Donovan McNabb. They came after him with cover
zero to win the game. Huns over the wall, man
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across the board, bring everybody. The flat top was there
in the secondary and they went after him. And man,
they got off the field on that fourth down and
we realized, all of us, the Arizona Cardinals were going
to the super Bowl. That was in two thousand and nine. Man,
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And that is a sensation, that is a feeling that
it's really really hard to forget that. I think, Paulie
would be my favorite moment of those twenty years. How
about you, paul did you have a favorite moment in
the last two decades?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's hard to argue with that.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I mean, I want to go with Kurt Warner out
dueling a young Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs, right, five touchdowns,
four and completions. I want to go with Larry Fitzgerald's
seventy five yards and the hail Larry after getting it
from Carson Palmer to win another Packard playoff game went over.
But the NFC Championship to this day is the loudest
sporting event I've ever attended or covered. There you go,
(09:48):
I would agree with you on that one. We're just
getting wrong. It is a big red rage. Well here
from Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft analysts. Next on the
big red rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Back game was Roy Grant of the zone six yards day,
He's gonna run it out.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He's out to the tenth, turns it to the.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Left side of the twenty twenty five thirty thirty five morning,
he might go all the way.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
He's at the morning, He's at the tunny, he's at
the ten.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
He is Then for the touchdown Roy Gray around one
hundred and a half or six.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Yards I was waiting for he called on a pay
phone in my dorm and the payphone was on the
third floor.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
And I was on the second floor. The basketball team
was on the third floor. I says, hey, guys, listen
for the phone for me. If it rings, it might
be for me. So everybody was on alert. But I
did have a distraction. They say you need distractions on
draft day. A tornado hit. Are you see a tornado
hit that morning, right before the draft? And I'm like,
oh God, I worked this hard.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I'm not going to get a chance to go down.
Don't take me down. Oh man.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
They always entertaining Royen Jetstream himself on his Draft day
recollection nineteen seventy nine out of Henderson State.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yes, I mean, if.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You can play, you will play, and they will find you.
And Roy Green is evidence of that. In fact, there's
a twenty twenty five application Roy Green. As we say,
welcome back into the Big Red Rage, presented by Santanne
Ford and Gilbert We are Santane Ford. Well, you're from
ESPN NFL draft analyst Matt Miller momentarily, but I recently
had a chance to talk to Roy Green, you're former
teammate Wolf about Travis Hunter. Because not since Roy Jetstream Green.
(11:34):
Have you seen a legit two way skill player like
Roy and now Travis Hunter? And Roy said he sees
him as a dB mixed in a little bit on offense.
But he said, there's no way you can play eighty
ninety snaps in a game. That's just not gonna happen
out over seventeen games. So he's got to choose. But
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he thinks he can be an elite corner and then
be a really effective weapon on offense.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Travis Hunter again, No, I'm with him on that one.
PAULI right there. I do believe that. I think again,
if you were going to take a true wide receiver one,
and you were going to take a true CB one,
and if you asked a talent evaluator, what would you
rather have you if you could pick between what it
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was that he was going to be a true wide
receiver one or a CB one, I think most general
managers would take the corner. I think most general managers
would say, give me a true CB one, A guy
that will go out there and be able to guard
anybody in the National Football League. That is such a
huge advantage, especially if you're a big man team.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
You know what's interesting is the Associated Press put out
their mock draft one point zero earlier today and they
have the Cardinals taking Will Johnson corner out of Michigan. Wow,
haven't seen that one yet. So that's that's interesting because Wolf,
I mean hit zoom out in the first two years
of manti usin for it right me. It's sort of
like the Lions with Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes, who
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was their first pick overall in their regime. Penny Sewell,
the now All Pro tackle Jim Harball last year comes
in his first pick, Joe Wall Joe, look at Ben
Johnson taking over the Bears. He's already traded for Joe
Toney and Jonah Jackson, two starting caliber guards right out
of the gate. It's it's this mantra you see it
with mantiasa Fort and Jonathan Gannon. They are building from
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the inside out, and so you have the likes of
like Albert Breer saying earlier today, Look, it's not a
great year to have a high draft pick, okay whatever.
Cardinals are right in the middle at number sixteen, field
Yates saying recently it is a great draft for front
offices that know what they're doing. So It's really intriguing
because you know what, this draft is deep where maybe
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the Cardinals need it most. And Wolf, let's listen to
an interview, a conversation Danny Surrek and Craig Griel who
had with the ESPN's Matt Miller. You can find him
at NFL Draft Scout, and here's part of the Q
and A from the common.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Let's just dive right into this draft class because what
you mentioned recently on Twitter was two positions of need
that the Cardinals have that this draft class is loaded,
and that would be edge and defensive tackle. What do
you like about the depth specifically on those two positions.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
This is the.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Deepest defensive line class I've ever evaluated. I think I
have thirty players that play edge or defensive tackle in
my top one twenty right now. So there's a lot
of top end guys like Abdil Carter, Mason Graham. They're
going to go really early in this draft. But there
is that depth, and I think it's a testament's like
so many players were developed, like Walter Nolan to go
from A and M to Ole Miss and we see
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him take that next step. There's always a couple guys
from Georgia. It feels like, and there's two this year
who are really good with Michael Williams and Jayla Walker.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it is.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
It's fantastic, And it's so funny how this lines up
because everyone was down on this draft class and then
the Eagles go and beat the Chiefs in the super
Bowl with a great defensive line, and it's like, oh wait,
this draft exactly meets what's really in vogue right now,
which running backs and the defensive line. And that's where
this draft is strongest.
Speaker 10 (15:03):
When you talk about the depth defensive line, edge rushers,
what do you see in that depth that maybe Cardinals
could still get in a player like Day two, yeah,
or maybe even early Day three.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
No, there will be starters that come out of rounds
three and four in this class just because of that depth.
And also, you know, we're still seeing the guys who
are coming off that COVID year that where they got
the extra eligibility, So it has made it such a
deeper group where some of those guys would have been
in last year's class and they would have been second
or third round picks. But now we get this loaded
group of prospects. So I do think you're in a
great spot. If you wait until round two, they're still
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going to be starter level players. Or if you, like
you said, if you want to even push it off
to day three, I think you can find players. You know,
Like a name that comes to mind for me is
Vernon Broughton from Texas. He was a one year starter
there because they were loaded at defensive tackle. In that
one year. I mean, he just completely popped on tape
and you're like, oh my gosh, this guy's such a
good athlete. He had so much potential. He just only
got to play for one year because they had such
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great defensive lineman ahead of him. So, like, that's a
kind of a great analogy for this class as a
whole list. There's a lot of guys that just had
to wait their turn, and then once they got that opportunity,
they took that next step.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
You brought up the Super Bowl, and it's something that
we've referenced a lot based off what is going on
at least those playoff teams that were successful based off
the line of scrimmage. Do you find yourself evaluating now
draft prospects maybe a little bit differently based off what
is in vogue in the league. Does it have trickled
down to what you see in the college ranks.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
Yeah, it does, and I think for like for what
I do, it doesn't really change how you evaluate individual players,
but it definitely changes, you know, like when we do
mock drafts, it's like, Okay, we're going to see a
rush on defensive linemen, probably because that is a copycat league, right,
Everybody wants to win the line of scrimmage, so offensive
lineman defensive linemen kind of expect them to go off
the board a little bit earlier. And on the college side,
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it has been really fun watching, you know, especially the
teams that cost you all playoffs this year, Ohio State, Texas,
Penn State, Notre Dame. They dominated the line of scrimmage
both sides of the ball, and so I do think
we see that in the college game right now too.
If yes, we all love like quarterbacks and Travis Hunter,
who you know, can do everything, it seems like on
a football field, but the great teams in college are
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dominating at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
You spent a lot of time looking through and evaluating
and talking about handful of those rookies this time last year,
players like Marvin Harrison Junior, Darius Robinson, Max Mountain, What
did you see from them in their rookie year and
what a realistic progression for year two could be for
players like that?
Speaker 9 (17:30):
You know, right after the draft, I think I gave
the Cardinals my highest draft grade and I just remember that,
like I loved the draft class. When you run through
it's like, gosh, I had first round grades on that guy.
That guy, I had like a top fifty on that one. So,
I mean, such a good year, and I think, you know,
with what Marvin did your one, I mean there's a
lot of a lot of progress, and it's just like
finding the right way to get him involved in the
offense so that he can have that breakout year, getting
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he and Kyler on the same page. I think for
a lot of the rookie receivers, people expected, you know,
greatness right out of the gate. That doesn't always happened.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
White out.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
I mean, Cardinals fans will remember, you know, with Larry
Fitzgerald and Ankum Bolden, like it takes time sometimes to
have those big, those big impacts. So Terius Robinson's another
guy who he just needed developed. He was so rawled,
there's so much potential there. So I think, you know,
getting into year two with both of those, you know,
guys who I had as first round picks and top
twenty five players, I still think the sky's the limit
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for what they can be. They just both needed a
little bit of development.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
There you go, Matt Miller, ESPN Draft Analysts. You can
find the entire conversation and it's good stuff Cardinals Cover
two via Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you gear podcasts. You
can also check out the video version on the Cardinals
official YouTube page, YouTube dot com, slash Asy Cardinals and
there's a lot of big names you're gonna find there
as well. I mean, Daniel Jeremiah, Charles, Davis Wolf. What
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stood out to you the most there, Matt Miller from
the combine last week and just where the Cardinals are
in this twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, I would say Pauli more than anything else is
him talking about how much he loved the draft class
last year from the Arizona Cardinals. I thought that was
significant right there, and it made me think of the
fact that the Arizona Cardinals, if you go back and
look at the last two seasons twenty twenty three and
twenty twenty four, and how many from those two draft classes,
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how many guys are actually either starters or in the
rotation getting an awful lot of playing time. Paulie, there's
like thirteen or fourteen guys that are year two or
less that are are getting significant snaps or just starters
for the Arizona Cardinals. You know, you think of a
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Max Melton and how much he has developed in one year.
You think of Garrett Williams, Oh my goodness, Garrett Williams
and the way he developed in two years. And Dante Stills, Pauli,
this guy is in the rotation for the defensive line
in I'm just so impressed with these two draft classes.
That's what I tend to focus on as well.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Okay, So with that in mind, because last two years,
think about it, twenty twenty three, you led the NFL
and rookie starts, rookie snaps. Yes, last year you had
a twelve player draft class, so it was let the
rooks cook to the point where the four draft classes
before Monti ausin for it, there are three starters left Kyler,
Trey McBride, Zavin Collins. Wow, you also have Victor Dan
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Mucage have Jesse Luketo. We're not sure about their future
of their status. Will probably find out next week. But
at this point, well, going into this draft, is it
now maybe quality over quantity. For example, if there's an
edge guy that you cover it and he's on the
board at twelve, he's on the board at thirteen, all
of a sudden, instead of trading down and maximizing picks,
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maybe you go after that guy because he's maybe the
one guy you need at this point, that premiere pass Rusher,
if he is that valuable to you. I wonder if
all of a sudden there's a different approach in this draft.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It could be Paully, It really could. It's gonna be
fascinating to see what Monti assin for does because you
know Moni's not afraid to make a move or dune.
He'll definitely do that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
For me.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I tend to focus on a guy like Tyler Booker
when you love to have Tyler Booker be a starting
guard on this offensive line. And I know everyone says,
look at the combine, look at the combine, paul Look
at the tape, not the tape measure, Look at the tape,
Paulie and watch him play. He is by far and
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away the best interior offensive lineman. The Arizona Cardinals need
that guy. And guess what if he falls down? Boy,
that seems to play right into Monny austin Ford's hands
if he falls down. Isn't there a possibility that MONI
could say, well, you know what, there's a lot of
defensive linemen and edge guys in this draft. And that's
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what Matt Miller was just talking about. There's an awful
lot of defensive linemen in this draft. Why not go
ahead and collect some picks, trade back where you still
might have a shot at getting Tyler book at number
twenty five, number twenty six, somewhere in that vicinity, and
collect some picks that you can use on the defensive
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line in the second round.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Maybe you know, a somewhat lackluster combine showing by Tyler
Booker works to the Cardinals advantage. Correct, Maybe he's there
at sixteen. I'll personally run the card up to the podium.
If he is, I have no So.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Paulie, you're saying right there, Oh, what if you could
even trade down from sixteen and still get him?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Then again, Daniel Jeremiah posted his top fifty players post combine. Now,
not how they're going to be drafted, just how he
ranks the players one through fifty and twenty is Michael
Williams the edge rusher out of Georgia twenty one, Mike
Green the edge out of Marshall twenty two, James Pierce
Junior out of Tennessee twenty seven, Shamar Stewart, so the
Cardinals could have their pick of an edge guy. Will
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continue to talk off season free agency. Next, the Big
Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilberte.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Snapped to Murray caskplay Murray with times buyers deep middle
end zone for Harrison, and Harrison.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Made the catch.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Man got his feet down for the touchdown. First NFL
score for Marvin Harrison Junior. The first of many to come.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Throw the twinkie into the toaster. Kyler Murray, Oh my goodness,
right on the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Play action of food to the right.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Murray looking downfield, now loves it deep here sign Harrison
caught it at a cunning hit the ten. Harrison dies to.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The end zone.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
He's in touchdown. Like a tear falling from your cheek, baby,
That ball came straight down out of the sky. Kylo
again drops a dime and Marvin Harrison Junior stretches out
and the pig breaks the played all that is off.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
So a lot of memorable moments there from Marvin Harrison
Junior his rookie campaign twenty twenty four. In fact, you
go back in Cardinals team history, as we say, welcome
back into the Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford
and Gilbert Paul calvec Ron wolfully and that team history
goes back more than a century, by the way, most
receiving yards by a rookie in a single season, and
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Kwon Bolden won Marvin Errison Junior. Two, some guy named
Larry Fitzgerald. Fifth, Frank Sanders, our guest recently here on
the Big Red Rage. Third, and remember what he said
about Marvin Rison Junior. He will be a different receiver
in year two. That was Frank's prediction. He said, that's
how much he thinks he's going to navigate the learning
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curve and accelerate. And he said one thing Marvin Harrison
Junior did not have as a rookie that he had
with Rob Moore than Larry had with an Kwon Bolden.
That is wide receiver one to take a lot of
heat off him. But that was Marvin and and you
know he always got a defenses. He was the center
of attention, and all the gravitational poll came his way.
So now, I mean, what do you think, well, I mean,
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for all the numbers he put up, what is the
upside Marvin Harrison Junior in year two?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Okay, Paully, you know I was really really high on
Marvin Harrison Junior to begin with. I'd like to refer
to it as the danger zone. I was in the
danger zone on Marvin Harrison Junior because I truly believed
he was going to come in and be wide receiver
one from day one, wide receiver one from day one. Now, look,
he was wide receiver one for the Arizona Cardinals. But
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you know, when you think about it, this is a
guy that had a very very good year. But my
expectation was so high. I thought he was going to
come in and he was absolutely going to dominate right
from the get go. Why because of his extreme talent
and because of his extreme work ethic. You put those
two things together right there, Marvin Harrison Junior was going
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to be lights out. Having said all of that right now,
what is the mantra with JG and maniasin for it.
Right now, we're just talking about the draft class. We're
just talking about year one to year two. Marvin Harrison
Junior is going to go into year two with year
one behind him and all of that goodness behind him,
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in all of that hooplah if you will, behind him,
and now he's going to be able to focus on
just getting better as a wide receiver in year two.
I expect Marvin Harrison Junior to explode this season.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
So Kyler Murray with two games to go in the
year said, you know what, our connection, Yeah, it's been productive,
but it can be better. It should be better. It
will be better. That was Kyler Murray to the media.
Here's maniasin for the GM on that connection talking with
Danny Surrek one on one at the combine.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
Yeah, I think with Kyler and Marv, as with everybody
in our roster as a whole, Like, everybody's competitive and
the goal is to perform at a high level, and
those guys they want to do it at a high
level all the time. And so you know, I know
those guys are working hard. Those guys hooked up on
a lot of big plays, a lot of explosive plays,
scoring plays, and I know there's more to comment. So
I know those two are going to do what it
takes along with the rest of our offense to you know,
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make us more explosive, make us more multiple, and continue
to put our offense in a position to score points.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
All right, So well, obviously the GM money as a
board isn't showing his hand in free agency or the draft.
But considering right now, under contract, Cardinals have Marmon Arson,
junior Michael Wilson along with Xavier Weaver and then restricted
free agent Greg Dorch, with Penning, free agent Zay Jones
and Zach Paskell. Do you expect a free agent veteran
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receiver to come the Cardinals' way in free agency, which,
by the way, you can start negotiating Monday, you can
start signing Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, PAULI, you know it's going to be really interesting
to see if that does happen. Right now, when I
think of the Arizona Cardinals in this offseason, Paulie, I
have a tendency. This is just me and I'm not
trying to pooh pooh, which you said with a wide
receiver of course. But for me right now, I'm thinking
about the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.
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This is Monti assen Ford, this is Jonathan Gannon. This
is their belief their philosophy on both sides of the ball.
And when I'm going to the free agent period, for me,
if I were a general manager, I'd want to sign
offensive lineman. Paul. I'd want to sign old linemen, especially
if I felt like I had to build my offensive
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line back up, and I think Monti ausen Ford and
JG both believe this offensive line needs to be addressed
once again and built back up. And for me, I'd
rather when it comes to free agency, I'm not really
big on going after defensive linemen in free agency. I'm
not big on that. For the most part. I'm big
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on going after defensive lineman in the draft because you
can get these young guys coming out and so much
of the time there isn't a mental capacity that you
have to worry about in regard to these young rookies
coming in and making an impact immediately, because a defensive
lineman is typically about, hey, this is the gap you
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need to be in. Okay, you need to know the
gap you're in and oh, by the way, rush the quarterback,
get to the quarterback. A lot of young guys can
come in and make a difference on the defensive line
offensive linemen. The brain part of it comes into play,
the brainiact part of it, where you've got to be
able to understand multiple fronts in certain situations and multiple situations.
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Of course, that the variables are all over the place
for an offensive lineman. And that's the reason why I
like to address that position in free agency poly because
you have all of this tape. You have a huge
amount of tape in front of you typically that you
can watch and figure out if this guy is worthy
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of the money you're probably going to have to pay him.
I like it. I think it's a more reliable way
to do it. The offensive line free agents defensive line draft.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Now it makes sense. You know, offensive line plug and play.
You can rely on that guy. You know, if you
have a rookie defensive lineman at least you can you know,
get them spot play, situational type assignments. Right, it is
d lineman coming in waves. You saw what the Eagles
did in the Super Bowl. So with that in mind,
a young player or a veteran. That is the question
to the GM MANIACI for once again at the combine
(30:30):
from our Danny Sirek.
Speaker 11 (30:31):
In terms of roster building, that's something that it's always
going to be.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's going to be both.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
You can't rely on one. There's different mechanisms throughout the
league year that for roster building. And we just happen
to be coming up on two of the most important
between free agency and the draft. So I think it's
a combination of the two. And really how one free
agency are moving? Free agency effects, so what happens in
the draft and vice versa, and so those are things
that we have to collectively look at and ultimately make
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the best decisions as we build the not only the
twenty twenty five Cardinals, but just into the future as well.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
And keep in mind Evan Brown Will Hernandez both free agents.
The two study guards much of last year. But well,
if when you look at receivers, not only had the
Cardinals been in the division, I mean think of all
the activity if you will the Niners Deebo Samuel traded
to Washington, Brandy nay Yuk reportedly on the block rams
are they trying to trade Cooper cup or what they
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just signed two to two at Well today to a
one year, ten million dollar deal guarantee two two at Well.
I mean he he' said four touchdowns in four years.
That's a no comprendo to me. DK Metcalf wants a
trade from the Seahawks. Rumors are the Raiders or Green Bay.
We'll see. They just cut Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Oh ding ding ding.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He's thirty two. Well if he looked a little step
slow last year, did he not? You're on board with
Tyler Lockett?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Huh, yes, no, I am.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
As a matter of fact, yeah, PAULI yeah, I think
he was a step slower, There's no doubt about it.
Every now and then, as you age, you've got to
be reminded of just how difficult it is to play
in the National Football League. And sometimes when you get
up to thirty two. Oh well, let's see, I was
thirty two right there, Paly. As a matter of fact,
I knew exactly what that felt like. And now all
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of a sudden, you got a guy like Tyler Lockett
at thirty two years of age. I think that might
have been the best thing that could happen to him.
I think the team that gets Tyler Lockett this time
around after getting released by the Seattle Seahawks. I think
that team is really gonna benefit because this is a
guy who's got great game speed too. He's not just
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a guy who's a four to four. He's a legitimate
four to four guy to me. But when he gets
in between the white lines, Tyler Lockett's gonna run as
fast as he can to get the ball, and that
to me is a rare talent. I still think he's
got the talent to be a deep threat and provide
a little aid comfort and shelter to short and intermediate
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route runner like a Trey McBride or like even Marvin
Harrison junior.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
All Right, so if you are thinking of a speed receiver,
what about dot dot dot a reunion with Hollywood Brown.
We are also thinking Christian Kirk. But then a couple
hours ago he got traded to Houston for a round
seven picks. So the Texans are going to take on
his existing contract, which is like sixteen point five. He's
in the final year of the deal. We're thinking Hollywood Brown.
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He's like, you know, bff with Kyler Murray. Right, he
still has that top end speed, or there's some bigger
names out there well, Stefan Diggs, Amari Cooper, Keenan Allen,
Davante Adams. Do you think there's a splash signing perhaps
to add to the wide receiver room, Man.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
PAULI, I don't know about that. You are so right
about it. The names that are out there right now.
I'm just the fact Joey Bosa is out there blows
my mind even now. I know we're talking about wide
receivers and we're talking about offense, but it is incredible.
I had the opportunity to talk to Field Yates today.
As a matter of fact, Paully and Field Yates was
(34:04):
talking about the fact that, man, the NFL, there's so
much money that is being thrown around out there when
you sign these free agents that by the time you
hit year four or even year three, to some degree,
in these contracts, there's no guaranteed money and it's almost
(34:25):
like you can just let the guy go and yeah,
you're gonna have some type of cap hit. Yet at
the same time, this is why he thinks there's so
many big names that are out there in free agency
being cut as the new league year comes up, that's
coming up March twelfth. He thinks there's a lot of
(34:45):
people that are being let go right now because this
is the new NFL. This is the way that it's
gonna work. You're gonna go ahead and you're gonna sign
guys up front, and then that last year, maybe even two,
you're not even gonna worry about it.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Okay, So speaking of do you think Jalen Thompson might
be in the crosshairs that very scenario. You just describe
Jalen Thompson as the third highest cap number on this team,
zero guaranteed money this coming year, and we all know
the sort of finish that rabbit put on the field
to his rookie season. I do wonder if that is
(35:23):
a move we should semi expect here over the next
week or so.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
That is a great point, PAULI, It really is. And
you know, Jalen Thompson, I know you feel exactly the
same way. This is a great football player, but this
is the modern day National Football League. You're a mercenary
and everyone knows it.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So we talked about quarterback. We've talked about protect that quarterback.
Let's talk about get to the quarterback. What the Cardinals
might have in mind. What is available. That is next.
It is the Arizona Cardinals Big Red Rage presented by
santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And up up the middle.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
B j o Jalari is there to grab Rodriguez at
the line of scrimmage. Snapped the Jackson He's gonna throw
it from the pocket, looking in trouble, wrapped up and
thrown down for a sack. Bjo Jalari gets his first sack.
The rookie out of Lsu gets a big sack here
on Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Closed down Lamar Jackson quickly and got the sack.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
That is big time by bj.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Heinekee playfake in trouble, hits and sacked by b j
o Jalari back at the ten yard line, a loss of.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
About ten oh. That is a big sack.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Back to pass goes Heinikey with time now the pocket collapses.
He Heinicky sack back at the nine yard line. Bjojalari
having a breakout game with his second sack, horsing a
punt all the rookie once again would not be denied.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
So wolf I was on the road last weekend. The
flight didn't have wi fi so oh, I'm sitting there
and I'm eliminating old videos from my phone and there
are a lot of a lot of training camp videos
before BG o Jeli went down with the season ending
knee injury, and I cannot tell you how many videos
in olne D line drills he was making Cardinals starting
(37:16):
o'd Linman look stupid. I mean, he was so good
early in camp. He was so fluid, he was so fast,
the explosion off the edge, some of the rip moves,
some of the spin moves, his counter moves, and he's
such an unknown though. As we say, welcome back into
the final seven of the Big Red Race, presented by
Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. If you're
(37:37):
MANI a support and Jonathan Gannon, I mean, what do
you make of BG o Jelari and what's his fit
this year on your depth chart?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's gonna be. That's gonna be determined, Balie. You know,
once again, it's one thing to look at a guy
and be able to project him as you well know,
and quite another thing to actually see him out there.
The first thing that's going to happen to bj o
Deelry is he's got to be healthy, and once he's healthy,
he's going to be really, really confident. I cannot wait
to see how this young guy grows. I really really
(38:07):
am looking forward to it. And I hope, of course,
he's not going to be one of these guys that
is going to have to deal with injuries throughout his
entire career. Hopefully he's going to be a guy that's
going to get relatively healthy. You're never going to be
one hundred percent. That's not going to happen. But hopefully
for him, he's going to be able to stay healthy
enough to where he can actually develop an NFL career.
(38:30):
And we'll see how that goes right there. But man,
this free agent period right now, there's a lot of
really good edge players that are out there. It's a
lot of good defensive linemen as well.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And you know what, Jonathan Ganna at the combine, he
was pretty honest with the media said, that's one area
where we need to get better getting after the quarterback,
and that's one position that you know they're looking up great.
My question to you, Ron Walfley, might there be a
splash move, a splash signing this offseason? You know, Cavin ball.
(39:02):
All of a sudden, you mentioned Joey Boso. Okay, he's
out there. We know that Max Crosby just signed a
ridiculous contract. He's now the highest paid non quarterback in
the league. Trey Hendrickson earlier today was granted permission to
seek a trade from the Cincinnati Bengals. Wow, he's due
sixteen million in the final year of his contract. They
can't agree on an extension. Remember, he's had seventeen and
(39:24):
a half sacks each of the last two years, NFL
sack leader last year. But he's aged thirty. Then there's
all there's all the Miles Garrett buzz. A lot of
people think that if Abduall Carter is there at two,
the Browns take Abduall Carter as their future edge guy
and then they trade Miles Garrett.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
So you know, boy, you're going deep on this one.
Paul A Man, it's and it's this time of year.
It's one of the great things about the NFL, isn't it.
Where do you start on this one?
Speaker 6 (39:57):
You know, well, I'll tell you what. Why don't we
hear from Jonathan and what he looks for in an
edge rusher, and then you take it from there, here's
the head coach just what appeals to him when he's
scouting that position.
Speaker 12 (40:09):
Can you rush the passer? Can you whoop a guy
in the run game? It's a little bit of drought
kind of the scheme that we play, you know, But
I think the first thing that you know you're looking
for is can this guy be disrupted in the passing game?
And I think that's one of the things, you know,
taking the full three sixty five look at us. I
think that's a way that we can improve our team
(40:31):
is to disrupt the quarterback a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
There it is, there's the comment I was talking about,
and so what do you make of that?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
And what?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I mean the urgency is there, right.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. The urgency is there
on the edge of course for the Arizona Cardinals, and
that's one of the reasons why I think they're going
to be players on the Josh Sweat free agency. I mean,
not to me once again, PAULI it is even Hassan Reddick, Paul,
Can I throw that out there?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Could I just throw that out there?
Speaker 6 (40:58):
No, that's that's aw ye, who knows, Paully.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
I mean, maybe Nick Rolis. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Maybe he had an awesome relationship with Hassan Reddick, maybe
it was Jag as well. I just think that is
something to keep in mind as well Hassan Reddick. But
Josh Sweat. If I was gonna if I was going
to go ahead and unload some money, if I was
going to be aggressive in the offseason, and I was
going to sign a free agent where I'm going to
(41:26):
pay top dollar for, I think Josh Sweat might be
that guy's He just showed so much. Of course, he's
getting better as far as I'm concerned now. I know
he's been in the league for seven years, but still
he's getting better right now, and I think we saw
(41:47):
that in the Super Bowl with two and a half sacks.
Josh Sweat, I think is in line to make an
awful lot of money. And if I were Josh Sweat,
I would hope the Arizona Cardinals would be involved in
wanting me as a free agent because from what I'm told,
he's got a really good relationship with those two guys.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
And you know that's the Cardinal's competitive advantage, right because
Mania said it more than once, there's always that little
trepidation because you don't truly know a guy right and
he can't really meet him as much as you can
at a combine, etc. Because he's a veteran bod. With
Nick Ross and Jonathan Gannon knowing him so well, they
know exactly what they would be signing to the dotted
line if that's indeed the case. How about Baron Browning?
(42:28):
And I bring that up because the Cardinals gave up
a six round pick middle last season. He's a little
banged up, but then the last month of the season,
right he got reps and according to the stats week
ten through eighteen next Gen Stats, he was fourteenth in
the league in QB pressure rate the second half of
the season, right between Brian Burns and Miles Garrett. This
(42:50):
and he's only got four years in the league, so
he's coming into his prime.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yes, PAULI you know I'm looking at that right now.
The pass rush win rate of fourteen teen point three percent.
What you just about Baron Browning? And did you know
Pro Football Focus has got him ranked number five. I
think I told you this last week, but he's number five, Paul,
in terms of free agents that are out there right
(43:15):
now on the edge that's really really good. Listen, who
knows where they're going to go on this? To me,
I think that's where I would be aggressive. Money talks
about it all the time. You don't want to go
into the draft needing to draft somebody that's going to
come in and have to start for you right from
(43:36):
the get go. You want to be able to address
your roster needs via free agency. Go out and address
those needs so that you can go into the draft
with a free mind and take the best guy you
think is available.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
The underrated storyline or need or want in free agency
for me is still middle linebacker. What is the status
at Kaizier White? He was so critical to this defense
each of the last two years. Is there a free
agent out there who's a little younger and there are
a number of them that are more twenty five twenty
six years of age?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
What do you do?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Or I'm putting on my oven mits right now, Wolf
for an ultra hot take. Okay, you ready for this?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (44:16):
What about Zamon Collins back in middle linebacker?
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Oh? Man, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
I didn't think about that. I will be honest with you,
but that wouldn't be a bad way to go. Maybe
try that out there. There are some free agents. Joy
green Law, I'll take yeah, yeah, I'll take green Law.
I'll'll throw him in there. Okay, that'd be That's gonna
be a lot of money for green Law.
Speaker 6 (44:44):
Nick Bolton from Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Oh yeah, all Bolden, I love him. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
I mean, come on, the Chiefs can't afford everyone, right,
I mean, they gotta let somebody go over there.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
See Paulie.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
Bobby Wagner's out there, that's true, just saying yeah. I mean,
oh my gosh, yeah, a little long in the tee.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
I mean, if Kalais Campbell can be thirty nine, then
I guess Bobby Wagner can keep going. I guess it's
all right.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
So you know what, I'll take Kalayis right now, Yeah, yes,
right now.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Absolutely special. Thanks Jim Imutracody Fincher, Matt Lazarus, Ron Wolfley
on Paul KELBC, this has been a big red rage
presented by Santan forward in Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
You've been listening to the big Red rage presented by
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Speaker 6 (45:30):
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