April 10, 2025 • 45 mins
Ep. 711 - After appearing on the Big Red Rage 86 times as host and six times as a guest during his first stint in Arizona, defensive lineman Calais Campbell stops by the studio to check the box on his 93rd show overall. Big 93 joins his former co-hosts Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to remember some of the old days and to discuss why he continues to love the game of football as he enters his 18th NFL season. Plus, Calvisi and Wolf chat about the extension earned by tight end Trey McBride and re-evaluate draft needs following free agency.
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Speaker 5 (01:02):
You know, in Hollywood they have reboots, remakes, revivals. Not
really sure what the difference is.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know they call him sequels.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Paul, Well, there's Batman and spider Man, Star Wars and
Star Trek, Mad Max, Top Gun. You're a huge Tom
Cruise guy, right, Not really well, call I know for
sure is that the Cardinals have a reboot in the remaking.
If you will, other players call him the OG, We're
gonna call him maybe the OC not Offensive Coordinator, the
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original Cardinal. Oh I like that, or maybe even OCC
the original Coaleis Campbell. Let it hang for just a
moment as I fact check. Yes, he is a member
of the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, it is official. He has
signed on the line that has dotted earlier today with
owner Michael Bidwell, and he will join us on a
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most definitely big edition the OG, the OCC edition of
The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert
Paul calvic here Ron Wolfley there.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, I'm really looking forward to that. Paul to sit
down and talk with Kaleis Campbell. Oh my goodness, we
hosted The Big Red Rage with Kaleias Campbell, did we not?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Paul four years he was the player host. In fact,
there's gonna be a mind blowing stat a little bit later,
Okay that we're gonna pass along. Just give me some
initial reaction, because before Kalis Campbell was signed, the Cardinals
had already speaking of remakes, right, I mean, they had
already redone the entire d line room, and then they
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added Kalais.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes, why because I think they wanted another guy into
that rotation. Right now, Kaleius Campbell is a guy that
he's getting up there a little long in the tooth,
as we all know right now, as he's gonna be
entering year eighteen. Paul, nothing about that, man. I mean
year eighteen. We're not talking about a holder on extra
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point and field goals. We're not talking about a quarterback man.
We're talking about a defensive tackle, a guy who's been
an interior defensive lineman lining up and playing for eighteen years.
This is gonna be stunning to watch this once again.
But not only that. When you talk about Kalais Campbell,
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your initial reaction, PAULI Wow, what a great player. And
even before that is he's the best dude. He is
one of the best guys I've ever known. And because
of that, he's gonna be a great addition to that
locker room.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
No doubt. I mean, leadership starts from the inside out,
does it not. You build a team from the inside
out on the field, meaning the trenches, but then you
build a culture from the inside out. From that locker
room on out. He is gonna be just invaluable in
that regard.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
On that. Paully talking about that too. It's so important.
You've got a culture. This is how a team does things.
You know what you need. You need leaders to hold
back culture together so it doesn't splinter and fray. You
need leaders that actually model it and hold your culture,
your dogma, your belief as to how you're gonna play
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football and how you're gonna go about your business. That
is culture, and you need leaders to hold it together.
That is Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
There are two things I can't wait for. Number one
is first pregame pep talk where he gets everyone around
down on the field, everyone gather around the six foot
eight Kalais Campbell, and he's gonna bring the energy, He's
gonna bring the wisdom. The other thing I can wait
for is a Cardinals road trip to Seattle because he's
had some of his best games at Seattle and go
up there and stick it to the twelves and bring
that energy and take down Sam Darnold. But that's getting
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a little ahead of ourselves. How about his introductory presser
that was earlier today. Here's a Kalais Campbell, right, I
mean his first nine years in the league, in the
AZ What it means to be back in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
It means a lot, you know, bring it back, a
lot of memories, that's for sure. Even just walking through
the building, you know, it's just like so many just
you memories part out of me. This is where I
got my start. This is the team that believed in
me and can the opportunity to live out my dream.
And you know, here we are, you know, oh these
years later and they still believe in me.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He's got the greatest football voice of all time? Can
I just say that right now? But he does. It's
not even close.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, if you're up there, although some would argue you
have more of a wrestling voice, but yeah, you up there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, I think honestly, Kalaius Campbell has the best football voice.
It's it's it's more grainy, gravelly than even my voice,
I would say, PAULI. And just the way he talks,
the delivery of it all. Kalayus Campbell. And how many times,
and you've talked about this already, how many times have
you heard him just scream the primal screen that I
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mean that Kalayus is the Kalayis that is needed in
that locker room.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Once again, he's gonna join us, all right in the
next segment. In fact, we have audio from his rookie year,
and you'll notice how different his voice sounds from two
thousand and eight till now. I'll just leave you with this.
Pro Football Focus ranked the five most improved units in
the NFL, like they had the Bears offensive line, for example,
number one, Arizona Cardinals defensive line and now reportedly after
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the signing of Kalais Campbell, one hundred and thirty million
dollars invested in the defensive front, including Josh Sweat. But
think of the before and after, think of the extreme
makeover in that position room from the last couple of
seasons through this year. It's almost like like Mantias Sport said,
you know what, I am sick and tired of being
sick and tired of be an underman in the d
line room because of injuries and other things. We're going
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to go all in this year.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Think about it, PAULI, how many times in rundown situation
last year, first in ten, second and one to six
that you have seen the Arizona Cardinals cover the interior
offensive line, both guards in a center right, and then
all of a sudden, you had two edge players out there.
Think of the personnel the Arizona Cardinal can actually line
up in run down situation when they do that this
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year to have Dalvin Tomlinson lined up over the center,
Darius Robinson lined up over the outside shoulder of a guard,
and then Kaleis Campbell as well over the other guard.
Now look at you're gonna have a rotation that includes
Dante Stills as well, Balald Nichols, Justin Jones, how deep
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can you go?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You brought LJ. Collier back in a while, l J.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Collier and kidding me?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And what if you draft a defensive lineman in the
second round, because.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Are you gonna do that? Are you gonna it's.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
A historically deep draft in D line. I know, maybe
they're not even done. Here's what we do now, or
at least we're pretty confident they're not drafting a tight end. Yes,
because they arguably have the best tight end in the
game and Trey McBride. Since we were last on the
air with the Big Red rage, it is officially official.
He has met the media, and you know, he was
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on Cardinals cover two as well, and he was a
great anecdote where he was when he got the news
of the new contract.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
You know, if I would have known this was going
to get done yesterday, I probably wouldn't have done what
I did. But I was, you know, on the golf course,
means Avion Collins. We're playing golf and I get a
phone call halfway through the dround and I'm like, Xavian,
I got to take a hole off, just play this
one without me, and got the news on the course.
Had no idea I would have, you know, heard it
on the course, but it was a whirlwind of emotions
and we had a good time out there.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
For sure. Were you buying it the nineteenth hole? I
did tell him.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I said, the next time that Cargos comes around, I'll
pay for whatever you guys want. Yeah, shots on me,
whatever you guys want, man, I'll get it all.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
He said. He played one of the best rounds of
golf he's ever played. He chipped in a couple of times.
He said, I'm like, well, I mean the hand eye
coordination on Trey McBride, I can't wait till Kyler's softball game.
If he's playing in that thing, he's going yard like
three times.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. Just it's such a great thing. It really is
for the Arizona Cardinals to be able to sign Trey
McBride to when you think about it, the way he
has developed so much. One of the most meaningful things
to me is who is the mentor so to speak,
of Trey McBride. Who does Trey McBride hang around in
the offseason. And you and I have had this conversation.
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It is George Kittle. It is a guy like George Kittle.
He goes to what was the tight end camp, Paul,
tight end you. It's tight end you, exactly right. And
to me, I love the relationship that McBride has with
George Kittle, and it's because of the way George Kittle
plays the game of football. And I think Trey McBride
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is modeling himself after George Kittle.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And what's remarkable is he owns the most catches by
any tight end in NFL history through the first three seasons.
He only had twenty nine grabs his rookie year. Yeah,
he really wasn't a constant and wasn't really productive until
midway through his second year after the injury to zach Ertz.
So what is still the upside? He's only twenty five
years of age. And it's not just the number of catches,
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it's the number of money catches in clutch situations. You know,
thirty's got to have it, Yes, And where do you
think Kyler is going? The guy trusts the most Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And plus two is just watch Trey McBride play the
game of football. Just watch him play at the point
of attack once again, how physical he is. That's what
you want. You want that guy to be physical at
the point of attack, and he is. You watch him
run the ball after he catches it. Would you say
he's good at that? Paul would just say that.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I mean rarely, if ever goes down in first context.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I just it's incredible to watch him run the way
that he runs after he catches the ball, that kind
of effort once again, blocking or when he catches the ball.
It's there for every one of his teammates to see
just how hard he tries and just how good he is.
PAULI that is the definition of a leader.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You know what I hope carries over as an example
from Trey McBride, is the leap he made from that
rookie year to where he is now? Yeah, I mean wolf,
Let's face it, a earthy year. There were some question marks.
Even he said his confidence is night and day from
his rookie year. Now if you can extrapolate that onto
a Marmon Arrison Junior, onto a Darius Robinson, and what
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could be in store for this team If those two
players take that sort of leap, what sort of leap
will the entire team take? In the win lost column?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's encouraging.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hey, Draft party, speaking of first round draft picks, it's
coming up. We are two thursdays away and guess what
the place to be Cardinals Draft Party. Great lawn at
State Farm Stadium. I've been doing it every year for
like a decade. Great time, free admission, free parking. Cardinals
players are going to be out there, legends. Speaking of legends,
how about a guy who's had double digit quarterback hits
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the last fourteen straight seasons. Kaleis Campbell next to the
Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Shaw
on second and twenty at pass played for Breeze in
trouble bumbles the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's caught out of the air by Campbell and he's
running free. Hit the thirty and the twenty. He'll take
it all the way and into the end zone for
a cardinal touchdown. It might be Kalaias Campbell's final home game.
And if that's the case, what a way to go
out a fumble recovery for a touchdown?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Have you ever seen a tree run like one of J. R. R.
Tolkien's ends? Attacking isn't guard? Kalais Campbell cut the ball
out of the air and took.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
It to the house.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
You know, you got there. You play hard, you know,
and good things happening. And I gotta take my head
off to Marcus Golden. You know, he made a big time,
big time played. He's had a lot of fun playing
in the stadium, you know, just hanging with the burd gang,
the energy. I fell off of it for nine years,
you know, and it's been it's been quite the pleasure.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'll tell you. That's a couple all timers right there,
Kalais with the all time play wolf, with the all
time call. What might have been his final home game
most definitely turned into his final home game until it didn't.
What's that old mine in advertising? But wait, there's more,
There's more, Paula, And here we are, Oh my goodness,
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we are most definitely putting the big into Big Red Rage.
Whenever we are joined by the big Man himself, Callaleis Campbell?
Is that really you?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Kuleus?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Is that or you? Ai Generated? Is that really you?
Right now?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I gotta pisch myself sometimes to make sure this is real.
This is real, it's happening.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Maybe what's amazing too is here We'll just boil your
mind with this holy Canoni stat from producer Jim amahundro
Is we enter year twenty five here on the Big
Red Rage as a host eighty six shows, eighty six
shows you hosted. This is the seventh time you've appeared
as a guest. What happens when you add up eighty
six and seven?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
This is meant it's meant to be. Maybe this poetic.
Maybe it's destiny.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
All right, So here's where I'm gonna start. Yeah, you're eighteen.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're eighteen.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
What keeps bringing you back to the NFL the game
of football? What brings you back to Arizona? You could
easily be playing pickleball right now and nicely retired. Why
keep playing?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
I love it? I don't know, man, I love it
so much. I mean, this is the best job in
the world. I dreamt of it since I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I gave my heart to it. It's my first love,
you know, and it's gonna be hard to walk away
when the time comes. You know, it's gonna be hard,
you know, because I love it so much. You know,
eventually as to eventually, you know, the show show ends,
but not yet, not yet. And uh, what brings you
back is just I can still dominate it.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I don't ever want to suck. I don't ever want
to be your guy that I can't can't get it done,
you know. But I still I'm still that guy. I
can still dominate.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So you know what's amazing is I have a sister
in law. She doesn't know a football from a foosball,
but she knows you. And I mentioned you're back, and
she said, oh, that's wonderful, and then she paused. She
realized it's been a long time, and she goes, is
he still good? And I said, you know what, I'll
ask him so you can still play?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
Yes, very much. So now I can't give you sixty
you know, you know, a solid thirty five. I'm a
dominant thirty five. You know, forty forty five I can
give you you know, you know in certain games, you know,
depending how the game flow goes. But you know, you know,
thirty forty five plays, you know, thirty to forty five
plays is definitely max you. I don't want anything less than.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
No real good right now.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So Koalas, I have to ask you this. We're right here,
obviously because of the history with this organization, the Arizona Cardinals,
you played nine years here. What was your reaction to
them being interested once again when you realized, man, you're
eighteen might be back in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
I mean, it was like almost a real and I
was like, man, that would be it just an epic story,
you know, Like I mean, and you know, just a
you know, finale on a sense, you know, and I mean,
who knows, right there's I an't worry about the future,
but like, I mean, what a story of it is?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (16:15):
You know, all my family loved it, loved the idea
of it, you know, But I mean this is just
a special place, you know, it's you know, so many,
so many good memories. Man, this is is home, you know,
and uh, you know, I mean I just remember getting
drafted in uh that first season, like you know, just
like you know, I didn't even believe we're gonna go
to the super Bowl, you know, and just you know,
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I just was trying to do my part, trying to
earn my keeping us in this league, show that belonged,
and uh, you know, you look fast forward to all
these years later, and it's like just a crazy experience,
you know. But I do think that, you know, I'm
better than ever you know up here, you know, and
I still have enough physical you know, ability, and so
I feel like, you know, I'm going to make a
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big impact here and I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know. What was funny is there were a lot
of people that when they first heard this, they were saying,
to me, Oh, he's going to do the sign, He's
going to sign and retire.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Is that what He's good? I mean, no way.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I was like, no, have you looked at his production
last year? How well Kalaias played.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I did not realize You've started all seventeen games each
of the last two years.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is that real?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Or is that a typo that because last week on
this show we had Frosty Rucker on he called you
quote a DEMI got. That's when he called you. You
mentioned your rookie year. Let's go on the cold Tub
time machine. We're going to flash back to two thousand
and eight. I mean, it is remarkable you played in
the Super Bowl. Okay, you weren't even old enough to
rent a car at this point, and here you were.
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We go into the archives when you were miked.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Up ten to the fifteen of the twenty and then
gets just drilled by Kalaias Campbell, whoawan for.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Me, is amazing, just going out there and showcasing all
the hard work I'm putting in all week. You hyped
up and screamed Yale, you know, whatever it takes for
me to go out there and get myself out of
my plates. The speed of the game was definitely different,
but as I got a couple of games with my belt,
you know, started to slow down for me and started
to become, you know, just a typical speed.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm used to Las Campbell continue your star gone.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
I was always tired. You know, you gotta run to
the ball every play, you know, every time.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I want to fail.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I give him all we were going wired in to
Calais Campbell.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I mean, all all those roars permanently changed your voice.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
As a kid, I'm a baby, so so think about this.
You are eleven years older than your d line coach. Yes,
what is that like when you're in that locker room?
I mean, Wolf got the old guy jokes when he
was in year ten. You're in your eighteen. Okay, Now
it's a badge of pride, obviously a badge honor when
you get the old guy jokes. What is it like
for you now in the locker room?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Yeah, I'm being old guy jokes for a long time.
I mean, you know, I beget old guy jokes since
I was here. You know, a lot of jokes, you know.
But I say that, you know, I mean lately, the
last couple of years, I've been having coaches that are
younger than me. And it's unique, you know, you know,
But I always telling him, like, just coach me same
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way you coach anybody else, Like you know, like you
got treat me no different. Like I love ball, I
love the game. You know, if we have a disagreement
on something, I'm you know, talk to you about it
in football terms and why I think I should do
something this way versus that way. But you know, it's
been awesome. And Coach d Boat, you know, I mean,
he just brings a lot of passion and love for the game.
And like I mean, I know he's twenty seven, you
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know he's a young buck, but he but he loves
he loves ball. You know you can see that it
just alludes through him, like he is a guy who
loves ball like I love ball. And anytime two people
love ball like that, I mean, it's always going to
be a positive experience. And you know I told him,
like you know, like you know, I want to be
a value adder in every circumstance. So like you know,
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wherever you finl like you know, you need me to
step in and say stuff. I talk to me. Let
me know, you know, I tell you if I feel
like I you know, see something, I want to say something.
You know, but you know, show show and I love
just being here, put my hand in to pile. And
you know, coach me the same way you coach anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know what's amazing about it. You say love ball,
and I know you love ball because I can watch
you play, and watching you play tells me that you
love ball. But I'm going to ask you this class,
why why do you love football? What is it about
the blood sport that you love so much?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Man, well we're getting deep, heerd in, Okay, he's yeah,
Because I mean I was a really good basketball player, right,
and I believe if I put the record in the
basketball football probably could have been pretty good, you know
what I mean. I know that's a big debate going on.
I was pretty good, and I never power into power forward. Yeah,
and I never really trained hard basketball. Basketball was just
like fun, like I never like grinded football. I grind it,
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you know, ever since before I even played basketball, like,
I love football since I was a kid, like I remember,
I think, really what makes football real special is that
you can't do it by yourself. You need a team.
Everybody has to be a part of it. And I
grew up with five brothers, two sisters, like we were
always like, you know, team oriented. My dad raised this
to be like a tight you know, And so I
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just love the part of the game where like you
can't do it by yourself, you got to be able
to inspire and bring people together, and that's just like
some kind of a beauty that you can't get any
other sport, you know, Like I mean, I know everything
is a team sport, but it's not the same, you know,
it's completely different. And you know, I mean I've been
trying to, you know, shopping on my tools and figuring
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out how to be better each and every year. And
I feel like this is the best I've ever been
from as far as a leader. And you know, and
you know, Arizona Cardins will get the best version of me.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'm guessing you're gonna be good for Paris Johnson Junior.
Oh yeah, you go against him a young tackle. And
I bring that up partially because you went against him
last year and we have the audio to prove it
in Miami because Ris Johnson Junior was miked up rolling.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Come on, you said I was too young?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Oh hink, come on, Oh Jake, That's what I'm talking about.
Oh Jake, get your.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Hands up, Get your hands up. I'm not sure. I'm
not sure what that's all about. But uh, you are
known to have a conversation with a player or two
during the course of a game, are you now.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
You know, I don't talk a lot of trash, but
I love communicating. I love when somebody has enough dog
in them to like, you know, stand the ground and
compete and talk a little trash. Now you know I
got the best of that at the very end.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
That's good.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
But you know I was very impressed with his ability, right,
you know, as a defence alignment, we have to think
that every sign that sucks, right, I don't give. I
don't I don't let the else alignment. I don't care
who it is. You put Joe Thomas, any of the
Hall of Famous back on the field, and my mind
saying I'm aout to dominate him. They can't block me.
I got that mentality like it is, you know, you know,
that's how it is. And so like you know, I
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try to you know, but he has potential. You know,
you see his potential. He's very gifted, strong, you know, smart, tough,
and it has that tenacity you need, like that competitive
edge you need. And so you know it's gonna be
fine going to you know, helping him develop and going
to battle with him, and you know your clays.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I have to ask you this matter. Why was he
saying get your hands up. Do you have any idea?
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Yeah, because he had clapped me down and I was
trying to get my hands about the ball and I
couldn't get him up anything like off my hands.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So he was ripping you for that.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
On that play he got me, you know. I mean
he was a quick throw, so it wasn't much you
could do. But he my hands up. That's what I thought.
That's exactly what I thought, get your hands.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He could play some ball.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Now he was not bad.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He was punching you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Now the Cardinals didn't want me because I played fairly
well that game too.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now, so well, reports said they tried to go after
you at the trade deadline.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
It was true, right, true, Rachel.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Very interesting, so cool. And I tell you what, we
can't look forward man, I mean I still I've been
smiling ever since you signed. I mean, we look forward
to this so very much. Think of how Falligol he's
going to be for Darius Robinson Lable his brand of
leadership and the ability to men.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Much of professional sports is about the intangibles, about the
leadership and culture of a team, and this guy is
going to be bearing the standard for that for the Cardinals.
Love you Koalis. Thank you man, so good to be
back there once again. Ninety three different shows you've been
a part of. Here the Big Red Rage presented by
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Santan Ford in Gilbert four.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Years as the host man of the Big Red Rage.
The guy Frosty Rucker once again called a demigod. We'll
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after this.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Murray takes the shotgun stat back to throw now a
lob near side. Poor McBride in the corner makes the.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Catch for the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Ah, that's greasy good right there for Kyler Burray.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And that was a tear drop a dime.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Murray to throw a fade right side of the end
zone on the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What
a throw by furry cats his fourth touchdown pass, tying
a career high.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Kyler Murray put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior
went and got it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Tex fits and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior
just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying
it with an Kwan Bolden and Larry for most touchdown
catches by a rookie and team Histery Hey.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Ned I think everyone would agree. There's plenty upside in
the game of Marvin Harrison Junior. You're Trey McBride in there.
First Cardinals tight end to make a Pro Bowl since
nineteen the Hall of Famer Jackie Smith. If Kyler can
get back to a Pro Bowl and Marvin Harrison Junior
can elevate in the next level, which would put him
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flirting with a Pro Bowl, think of where this Cardinals
offense can be. It is a big red rage presented
by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. We're
both still smiling. Kaleis Campbell, Yes, oh my goodness, what
a dude, I mean, what an absolute gift. Talk about
winning the offseason. Just adding Kaleis Campbell right there.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, and once again, because he's going to be a
starter ball. He's going to be a starter. He's going
to line up and he's going to start swinging from
play one.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
And we've seen him each of the last two years.
Cardinals played Atlanta two years ago, they played Miami last year.
I did not realize he started all seventeen games each
of the last two seasons.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So he said he's missed fourteen games in his career unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And now maybe the best part for Kalais is he
doesn't have to chase Kyler Murray around, as he talked
about with the media earlier today as well. All Right,
so look, we've talked a lot about Trey brid we
just did. We've talked a lot about Marvin Harrison junior,
Kyler Murray going into year eight. Where can he get better?
Where can Kyler Murray elevate his game to the next level?
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Where and how?
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know, for me, Paully, once again, it's just throwing
the ball from the pocket, I think is the biggest
thing schematically right now that Kyler Murray could actually improve on.
It's what he needs to do when he gets outside
of the pocket. To me, he's very very good at
seeing the field, looking downfield, making a play or pulling
it down and actually running. But to me, when you've
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got the kind of running back that the Arizona Cardinals
have with James Connor, you're attacking the line of scrimmage
very very much. You're putting his toes at six and
you're gonna line up, You're gonna put Kyler Murray under center,
and you're attacking the line of scrimmage at anytime you
do that, the play action that comes off of that
is so important. He needs to evolve and become a
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better thrower from the pocket, even more than what we
saw last year. Marvin Harris Junior and Kyler Murray, that
chemistry has got to improve, it's got to get better,
and it's got to get better from the pocket. In PAULI,
if that happens, I'm telling you right now, mark this down.
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If that happens, it's going to set off a chain
reaction that will allow the Arizona Cardinals to actually win
the division.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Well, that sort of team improvement was something Kyler Murray
and self spoke about with you and Luke on your
weekly show Arizona Sports. And here he is Kyler Murray
on the twenty twenty five Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
We made a lot of strides. Obviously, I know we
didn't end the season the way we wanted to end it.
I know we felt like we should have been in
the playoffs. I believe that we should have been in
the playoffs. We have to be better in certain situations,
and I truly believe that we will be better next
season in those situations. To be able to take that
next step get over the hump. In this offseason, I
think we're on the right path adding the new editions. Josh,
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you got Dalvin, a lot of other guys, but you know,
I'm super excited.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
There you go, Kyler Murray, who, by the way, is
going into year seven. Little fact check on that one.
What other takeaways did you have after visiting with the
Cardinals franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, you know, PAULI just how much more mature he
actually sounds when you talk to him now than when
he was younger. And that makes an awful lot of sense,
of course, right going into year seven. Like you said,
But man, I just want to clarify a little bit
more on what I was talking about Pauli, because if
Kyler can improve that chemistry with Marvin Harrison Junior and
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start throwing the ball down the field and doing it better,
it's going to make the Cardinals so much better. And
the reason why I say this is because of James Connor,
because of their ability to attack the line of scrimmage
and then use play action to take shots down the field.
When you've got teams that are sucked up to the
line of scrimmage and run down situation because of James
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Connor being able to run the ball so well and
because of having a very physical offensive line. If they
can do that, if they can just improve that part
of it, they're going to be a much better offense.
And a much better offense is going to score more points,
and a much better offense is going to have leads
in the fourth quarter. And that means that going out
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and getting a Delvin Tomlinson, getting a Josh Sweat, getting
Kalais Campbell and Darius Robinson in his second year, having
guys that can rush the passer when you have a
lead in the fourth quarter is going to be really
really good for your odds of winning a game.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Right to your point, Remember how Jonathan Gannon always cites
explosive jump place right, So okay, last year Cardinals were
top five in explosive run plays of both ten and
twenty yards. Top five. Know where they were an explosive
pass plays? Yeah, bottom third.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
So if you can add that, add that to your arsenal,
your repertoire as an offense, you know, you get teams
out of the shell, coverage, the two high safety all
of a sudden, and then if you can create some
room up front because you've got to drop guys back
and respect some of those chunk throws. Boom, here's James Connor,
who's already one of the league leaders yards from scrimmage.
And so all of a sudden, you're right, that's the
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rising tide that lists the entire offense.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And once again, Paul, if that happens, you're gonna have
more leads. You're just gonna just by the odds of
being a good offense, you're gonna have more leads in
the fourth quarter. Now, all of a sudden, you know,
depending on how much you're up, the other team's gonna
have to throw the ball. And remember, the Arizona Cardinals
didn't suck buttermilk at getting to the quarterback last year
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when they had to scheme everything.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
That's a difference. They had to manufacture so many of
those sacks affecting the quarterback based on scheme. Now, if
it's more about the players and rushing for what does
that enable Nick Rowlis and Jonathan gan and to do
schematically behind that front.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Four that's exactly right. And again you can just line
up four guys. That's the best kind of pass rush
that you can pop possibly have if you can get
pressure on the opposing quarterback. Line up four guys and
get in the quarterback's face or get to them and
knock them down. I think they're gonna have four guys
right now, Pauli. And again, the rotation is gonna be
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a work in progress. But when you think of Josh
Sweat on the outside, when you think of bj Ojelai
and we'll see young guy looked really promising, he's got
to prove it. But you think of Darius Robinson, you
think of Kaleis Campbell, you think of Dalvin Tomlinson, you
think of these those five guys specifically. Man, you're gonna
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have a nice rotation of rushing for dropping seven and
I think you're gonna get pressure on the opposing quarterback
and that's great for defensive coordinator Nick Rowlins.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
No mistake that Kyler Murray cited that to both you
and Luke on your show. In fact, you guys got
talking about Trey McBride as you should, right, the record
setting tight end who just reset the tight end market,
and Kyler talking about how the tight end a QB's
best friend.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I've never played with a tight end like cherry. You know,
so they say, you know, growing up, we play quarterback
a tight ends, you know, the quarterback's best friend, and
this guy right here is the true definition of that.
You know, doesn't matter if he's covered, which most of
the time he's not, because he runs great routes, which
is you know, the minority for you know, tight ends usually.
But this dude is super athletic. He loves the game.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
It's just great to see his maturation because coming from
being a wide eyed rookie to make mistakes and having
those rookie mishaps to now being a guy who can
correct other guys, you know, and get us in the
right stuff and tell people what they're doing. You know,
it's a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
He had one hundred and eleven catches Trey McBride in
sixteen games. That's more than Larry Fitzgerald ever had in
the season. There were three games where he had a
dozen or more catches. Right now, if I'm in the
rest of the division, if I'm Mike McDonald in Seattle,
Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, I'm imploring my defensive coordinators to
figure something out. How do we defend Trey McBride because
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killed us in all six division games last year.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No doubt, bully, that is going to be job one.
Well maybe not job one when you look at James
Connor and the way he runs the ball. But having
said that, I love the fact Kyler said wide eyed
right there, wide eyed. You know what's so fascinating? Running
good routes and being a good route runner takes your
eyes as well. Watch it, Pauly. You watch receivers when
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they want to go right, they'll look left, do you
know what I mean? Sure, like break it down and
look left. Dwight Clark was the master at running those routes.
Trey McBride also is really really good at making the
dB who's trying to actually use leverage to cover him,
making that dB get out of leverage and all of
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a sudden he uses his eyes to get open and
run routes. He's excellent at doing it. And that's something
that is innate. You either have it or you don't.
Trey does.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
And he's always had the best hands on the team.
Oh man, I mean you saw that from the get go.
The first rookie mini camp after he was drafted fifty
fifth overall, you just saw easily he caught the ball
how naturally was as a pass catcher. So now you
had the other elements, and you know, it's amazing down
on the sideline. And I've told this anecdote before. He
could have twelve targets, eleven catches, and he's still seething
(35:19):
about the one catch he didn't reel in, even though
it wasn't even reasonably in his catch radius. That's how
competitive he is.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
He's super competitive, and it's one of the reasons why
he's such a good blocker. And that drives him crazy
too when he's missing blocks. And fortunately, this is something
that I think is only going to get better with him.
He's got to watch his weight, but hopefully it's just
going to get better for him in terms of blocking.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
See, there are a couple of sleepers coming in this year.
Isaiah Adams I think is a sleeper, especially if he
put on weight this Aime, I agree with that. The
other sleeper is tip Ryman. I think if they get
tip Ryman involved in the past game a little bit
more a little bit, we'll see, but you know, get
that mandatory one tight end screen per game to tip Ryman.
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Here comes two hundred and eighty pounds who wants them
and get him involved a little bit more. I think
that could be That could be an effective like offspeed
pitch compared to a Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, first of all, don't get me started on Tip Ryman.
And by the way, Tip, if you're listening, Park at
the Moon just saying all.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Right, here we go. Draft is coming up. And guess
what last year's top draft pick, number four overall, Marvin
Errison Junior. His jersey recently dropped. You can get it
at the Cardinals team shop. So get ready for the
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needs have they changed? Are they still building from the
inside out? We'll get into all that. And what a
former Cardinal thinks about this draft class that is next
in the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Third to sixth?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What is Jackson always pass again?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
You flicking it is deck at the funny seven yard
line the team Davis.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Cather, Let's got to throw Flesher Hayes's Jack Dalvin Tomlinson
flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
He is sad.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Tomlinson in trouble down he.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Collins down with thomainson there and the ball came out Parks.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
In trouble he is shacks Josh Sweat with his sack
and he was under pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Again, swung down Turney nine yard line. Josh Sweat here
is hairs again and he.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Gets Watt just nowhere to go, and Josh Swett was there,
here's my.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Homes Prussia, I don't in the hill is sick. Josh
Sweat gets.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Home and he got the Lombardi nearly got the Super
Bowl Most Valuable Player of horror as well with two
and a half sacks. He was a headache. He was
a menace. And that Eagles defense in front was the
difference as they got after Patrick Mahomes. And what did
Josh Sweat say here on the Big Red Rage and
in meeting the media that the way Vic Fangio used
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him in the Super Bowl is exactly the way Jonathan
Gannon used him in Philadelphia. Just go, just get off
the ball and go and just create havoc. So when
you look at the addition of Joshua here on the
Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I
think of a team like Denver a year ago, and
here's why they led the NFL in sacks with sixty three.
(38:31):
And what do they do. They broke an eight year
playoff drought, even with the rookie quarterback. So the Eagles
proved it in the Super Bowl. The Broncos proved it
go into the postseason. Guess what. It's not just about quarterback.
It's about getting to the quarterback. And if you can
do that, you can be a really successful team. And
hopefully the Cardinals elevated themselves in that department.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, it's one of the reasons why the edge position
has been elevated to the degree in which it is now. Paully,
there are so many any edge players that get paid
huge money, And how important is it that you have
an edge rusher at least one? Man, if you got two,
that's awesome, but give me one.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
If you gave me my power poll position groups. I
think the Cardinals are valuing right now in the draft.
I'd have corner three, edge two because they made the
d line additions, okay, And I'd have offensive guard one.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Right now, okay.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
And I bring that up because look, if all these
teams are building up their defensive fronts, protect thy quarterback,
and there are obviously a few really marquee names and
players in this draft. When it comes to offensive line,
Cardinals continue to build from the inside out. One name
that's been attached to the Cardinals in multiple mock drafts
Calvin Banks Junior, the All American out of Texas. I
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like them, AQ Shipley justin Pew two guys. We definitely
like former Cardinal offensive linemen. Great guys, great personalities, and
some great analysis on the Clean Pocket Podcast. When comes
to Calvin Banks, I.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
Think he's the most physical. I think he plays with length.
I think he can handle the bull rush. I think
he's athletic as hell. There's clips that you can find
on tape of him running, you know, Ali screens and
speech greens, getting out in space and decleating corners. That's
exactly what you need athletically from a tackle. He's de
cleayton D tackles. He's getting to the second level. He's
getting on them guys. When he's playing on the edge
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against the edge rushers, good pass sets. He's never given
a soft edge.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I could easily see the Cardinals going for Calvin Banks
Junior out of Texas first team All Americans six five
three fifteen. And here's a big reason why. Yes, he
was the starting tackle, but he has the ability supposedly
to go inside. So let's say you used him inside
as a rookie and then Jonah Williams. Depending on what
his future is the final years his contract, maybe he's
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your franchise right tackle going forward.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
You know, for me, Pauli, Calvin Banks Junior, if somebody
said that was going to be the pick at sixteen,
I'd be fine. I'd be absolutely fine with that, because
again I'm about building the interior offensive line, and if
he could ever kick out to tackle at some point
in time, I'd be absolutely fantastic. But I think the
line of scrimmage, once again, you can't be too physical
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on the line of scrimmage. You can't. You gotta get
guys who play in a very physical kind of way
to be physical, and Calvin Banks Junior is one of
those guys.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Do you consider offensive guard interior O line at this
point in the offseason a need or a want?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, for me, I consider it to be really the
only need for the Arizona Cardinals. I think Moni's done
a great job of going out in free agency, and
he's talked about this. It was his goal. But going
out there and patching some holes in free agency, of course,
and doing it with an awful lot of money, I
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might add, And then of course, you know, I would
like to see them go with an interior offensive lineman
in the first round. Now, listen, there are some people
out there talking about a scenario where Tyler Booker, somebody
you know, I really love, Tyler Booker, might drop out
of the second round. Well, I say this right here.
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The only thing better than getting Tyler Booker in the
first round is getting him in the second round. And
if you're going to tell me that they can get
him in the second round, and maybe you take Matthew Golden,
I don't know, a wide receiver from Texas. Maybe you
take him at sixteen. And if you're gonna tell me
that Tyler Booker is going to be there at forty seven,
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which I will believe when I see it, yeah, I'd
be okay with that because the one thing that I
do think would really help this offense is a wide
receiver who can hurt you downfield, who's running a four
to nine.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That's really interesting because there have been a number of
mock drafts that have had at least three different receivers
going to the Cardinals at number sixteen overall, and going
into this process, I never would have thought receiver in
round one, but there have been some visits as well,
and there's a lot of unknowns in this draft. Where
is shder Sanders going? Yeah, where is someone like James
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Pierce Junior going? Where is Shamar Stewart going with all
that potential and little production? Tyler Booker, I mean still
mock drafts have him gone ten or thirteen to the
Bears and Dolphins, or or mel Kiper to your point,
has him gone to the Cardinals at forty seventh over
It is amazing this draft this year. I don't know
what the war room's all about, but the mock drafts
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have certain players all over the first round and into
the second and so based on what the Cardinals do,
I'll throw out a name. How about Josh Simmons, the
stud offensive line for Ohio State had his season cut
short by a pateeller tendon injury. But guess what your
offensive line coach used to be Ohio State's O line
coach Justin Fry.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, and it's going to be interesting to see because
Josh Simmons, at least from some of the guys I've
talked to, might not have the dog mentality. That has
been a bit of a knock against Josh Simmons. Now again,
he's got all the athletic ability you could ever want.
He's an excellent offensive lineman. But is he going to
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have that dog mentality? Do you want that? That has
been the question. And again these are just objections that
I'm bringing up that I have heard, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
You also have NFL dot Com their latest mock draft,
Kenneth Grant going to the Cardinals at sixteen, the d
tackle big guy. Okay, I'd be okay, And you know
what I mean. Look, LJ. Colli are on a one
year in deal, Justin Jones baall Nichols after this season,
you could easily part ways in terms of the business side.
So if the Cardinals go defensive lineman at sixteen still
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with all the additions, man, it could make sense.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's it could.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
And you know what, I think many loves this because
there's at least a half dozen different positions that have
been named in mock drafts. There is no real trend
for the Cardinals and a lot of these mock drafts
and we'll see what happens Draft Night two weeks from
tonight for Koalascampbell and Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvic Special
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Speaker 5 (01:02):
You know, in Hollywood they have reboots, remakes, revivals. Not
really sure what the difference is.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know they call him sequels.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Paul, Well, there's Batman and spider Man, Star Wars and
Star Trek, Mad Max, Top Gun. You're a huge Tom
Cruise guy, right, Not really well, call I know for
sure is that the Cardinals have a reboot in the remaking.
If you will, other players call him the OG, We're
gonna call him maybe the OC not Offensive Coordinator, the
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original Cardinal. Oh I like that, or maybe even OCC
the original Coaleis Campbell. Let it hang for just a
moment as I fact check. Yes, he is a member
of the Arizona Cardinals. Yes, it is official. He has
signed on the line that has dotted earlier today with
owner Michael Bidwell, and he will join us on a
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Paul calvic here Ron Wolfley there.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, I'm really looking forward to that. Paul to sit
down and talk with Kaleis Campbell. Oh my goodness, we
hosted The Big Red Rage with Kaleias Campbell, did we not?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Paul four years he was the player host. In fact,
there's gonna be a mind blowing stat a little bit later,
Okay that we're gonna pass along. Just give me some
initial reaction, because before Kalis Campbell was signed, the Cardinals
had already speaking of remakes, right, I mean, they had
already redone the entire d line room, and then they
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added Kalais.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes, why because I think they wanted another guy into
that rotation. Right now, Kaleius Campbell is a guy that
he's getting up there a little long in the tooth,
as we all know right now, as he's gonna be
entering year eighteen. Paul, nothing about that, man. I mean
year eighteen. We're not talking about a holder on extra
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point and field goals. We're not talking about a quarterback man.
We're talking about a defensive tackle, a guy who's been
an interior defensive lineman lining up and playing for eighteen years.
This is gonna be stunning to watch this once again.
But not only that. When you talk about Kalais Campbell,
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your initial reaction, PAULI Wow, what a great player. And
even before that is he's the best dude. He is
one of the best guys I've ever known. And because
of that, he's gonna be a great addition to that
locker room.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
No doubt. I mean, leadership starts from the inside out,
does it not. You build a team from the inside
out on the field, meaning the trenches, but then you
build a culture from the inside out. From that locker
room on out. He is gonna be just invaluable in
that regard.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
On that. Paully talking about that too. It's so important.
You've got a culture. This is how a team does things.
You know what you need. You need leaders to hold
back culture together so it doesn't splinter and fray. You
need leaders that actually model it and hold your culture,
your dogma, your belief as to how you're gonna play
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football and how you're gonna go about your business. That
is culture, and you need leaders to hold it together.
That is Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
There are two things I can't wait for. Number one
is first pregame pep talk where he gets everyone around
down on the field, everyone gather around the six foot
eight Kalais Campbell, and he's gonna bring the energy, He's
gonna bring the wisdom. The other thing I can wait
for is a Cardinals road trip to Seattle because he's
had some of his best games at Seattle and go
up there and stick it to the twelves and bring
that energy and take down Sam Darnold. But that's getting
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a little ahead of ourselves. How about his introductory presser
that was earlier today. Here's a Kalais Campbell, right, I
mean his first nine years in the league, in the
AZ What it means to be back in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (04:55):
It means a lot, you know, bring it back, a
lot of memories, that's for sure. Even just walking through
the building, you know, it's just like so many just
you memories part out of me. This is where I
got my start. This is the team that believed in
me and can the opportunity to live out my dream.
And you know, here we are, you know, oh these
years later and they still believe in me.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He's got the greatest football voice of all time? Can
I just say that right now? But he does. It's
not even close.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Well, if you're up there, although some would argue you
have more of a wrestling voice, but yeah, you up there.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, I think honestly, Kalaius Campbell has the best football voice.
It's it's it's more grainy, gravelly than even my voice,
I would say, PAULI. And just the way he talks,
the delivery of it all. Kalayus Campbell. And how many times,
and you've talked about this already, how many times have
you heard him just scream the primal screen that I
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mean that Kalayus is the Kalayis that is needed in
that locker room.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Once again, he's gonna join us, all right in the
next segment. In fact, we have audio from his rookie year,
and you'll notice how different his voice sounds from two
thousand and eight till now. I'll just leave you with this.
Pro Football Focus ranked the five most improved units in
the NFL, like they had the Bears offensive line, for example,
number one, Arizona Cardinals defensive line and now reportedly after
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the signing of Kalais Campbell, one hundred and thirty million
dollars invested in the defensive front, including Josh Sweat. But
think of the before and after, think of the extreme
makeover in that position room from the last couple of
seasons through this year. It's almost like like Mantias Sport said,
you know what, I am sick and tired of being
sick and tired of be an underman in the d
line room because of injuries and other things. We're going
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to go all in this year.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Think about it, PAULI, how many times in rundown situation
last year, first in ten, second and one to six
that you have seen the Arizona Cardinals cover the interior
offensive line, both guards in a center right, and then
all of a sudden, you had two edge players out there.
Think of the personnel the Arizona Cardinal can actually line
up in run down situation when they do that this
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year to have Dalvin Tomlinson lined up over the center,
Darius Robinson lined up over the outside shoulder of a guard,
and then Kaleis Campbell as well over the other guard.
Now look at you're gonna have a rotation that includes
Dante Stills as well, Balald Nichols, Justin Jones, how deep
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can you go?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You brought LJ. Collier back in a while, l J.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Collier and kidding me?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
And what if you draft a defensive lineman in the
second round, because.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Is that a possibility?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Are you gonna do that? Are you gonna it's.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
A historically deep draft in D line. I know, maybe
they're not even done. Here's what we do now, or
at least we're pretty confident they're not drafting a tight end. Yes,
because they arguably have the best tight end in the
game and Trey McBride. Since we were last on the
air with the Big Red rage, it is officially official.
He has met the media, and you know, he was
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on Cardinals cover two as well, and he was a
great anecdote where he was when he got the news
of the new contract.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
You know, if I would have known this was going
to get done yesterday, I probably wouldn't have done what
I did. But I was, you know, on the golf course,
means Avion Collins. We're playing golf and I get a
phone call halfway through the dround and I'm like, Xavian,
I got to take a hole off, just play this
one without me, and got the news on the course.
Had no idea I would have, you know, heard it
on the course, but it was a whirlwind of emotions
and we had a good time out there.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
For sure. Were you buying it the nineteenth hole? I
did tell him.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
I said, the next time that Cargos comes around, I'll
pay for whatever you guys want. Yeah, shots on me,
whatever you guys want, man, I'll get it all.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
He said. He played one of the best rounds of
golf he's ever played. He chipped in a couple of times.
He said, I'm like, well, I mean the hand eye
coordination on Trey McBride, I can't wait till Kyler's softball game.
If he's playing in that thing, he's going yard like
three times.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. Just it's such a great thing. It really is
for the Arizona Cardinals to be able to sign Trey
McBride to when you think about it, the way he
has developed so much. One of the most meaningful things
to me is who is the mentor so to speak,
of Trey McBride. Who does Trey McBride hang around in
the offseason. And you and I have had this conversation.
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It is George Kittle. It is a guy like George Kittle.
He goes to what was the tight end camp, Paul,
tight end you. It's tight end you, exactly right. And
to me, I love the relationship that McBride has with
George Kittle, and it's because of the way George Kittle
plays the game of football. And I think Trey McBride
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is modeling himself after George Kittle.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
And what's remarkable is he owns the most catches by
any tight end in NFL history through the first three seasons.
He only had twenty nine grabs his rookie year. Yeah,
he really wasn't a constant and wasn't really productive until
midway through his second year after the injury to zach Ertz.
So what is still the upside? He's only twenty five
years of age. And it's not just the number of catches,
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it's the number of money catches in clutch situations. You know,
thirty's got to have it, Yes, And where do you
think Kyler is going? The guy trusts the most Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And plus two is just watch Trey McBride play the
game of football. Just watch him play at the point
of attack once again, how physical he is. That's what
you want. You want that guy to be physical at
the point of attack, and he is. You watch him
run the ball after he catches it. Would you say
he's good at that? Paul would just say that.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I mean rarely, if ever goes down in first context.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I just it's incredible to watch him run the way
that he runs after he catches the ball, that kind
of effort once again, blocking or when he catches the ball.
It's there for every one of his teammates to see
just how hard he tries and just how good he is.
PAULI that is the definition of a leader.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
You know what I hope carries over as an example
from Trey McBride, is the leap he made from that
rookie year to where he is now? Yeah, I mean wolf,
Let's face it, a earthy year. There were some question marks.
Even he said his confidence is night and day from
his rookie year. Now if you can extrapolate that onto
a Marmon Arrison Junior, onto a Darius Robinson, and what
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could be in store for this team If those two
players take that sort of leap, what sort of leap
will the entire team take? In the win lost column?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's encouraging.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Hey, Draft party, speaking of first round draft picks, it's
coming up. We are two thursdays away and guess what
the place to be Cardinals Draft Party. Great lawn at
State Farm Stadium. I've been doing it every year for
like a decade. Great time, free admission, free parking. Cardinals
players are going to be out there, legends. Speaking of legends,
how about a guy who's had double digit quarterback hits
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the last fourteen straight seasons. Kaleis Campbell next to the
Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Shaw
on second and twenty at pass played for Breeze in
trouble bumbles the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It's caught out of the air by Campbell and he's
running free. Hit the thirty and the twenty. He'll take
it all the way and into the end zone for
a cardinal touchdown. It might be Kalaias Campbell's final home game.
And if that's the case, what a way to go
out a fumble recovery for a touchdown?
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Have you ever seen a tree run like one of J. R. R.
Tolkien's ends? Attacking isn't guard? Kalais Campbell cut the ball
out of the air and took.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
It to the house.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
You know, you got there. You play hard, you know,
and good things happening. And I gotta take my head
off to Marcus Golden. You know, he made a big time,
big time played. He's had a lot of fun playing
in the stadium, you know, just hanging with the burd gang,
the energy. I fell off of it for nine years,
you know, and it's been it's been quite the pleasure.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I'll tell you. That's a couple all timers right there,
Kalais with the all time play wolf, with the all
time call. What might have been his final home game
most definitely turned into his final home game until it didn't.
What's that old mine in advertising? But wait, there's more,
There's more, Paula, And here we are, Oh my goodness,
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we are most definitely putting the big into Big Red Rage.
Whenever we are joined by the big Man himself, Callaleis Campbell?
Is that really you?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Kuleus?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Is that or you? Ai Generated? Is that really you?
Right now?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I gotta pisch myself sometimes to make sure this is real.
This is real, it's happening.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
Maybe what's amazing too is here We'll just boil your
mind with this holy Canoni stat from producer Jim amahundro
Is we enter year twenty five here on the Big
Red Rage as a host eighty six shows, eighty six
shows you hosted. This is the seventh time you've appeared
as a guest. What happens when you add up eighty
six and seven?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
This is meant it's meant to be. Maybe this poetic.
Maybe it's destiny.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
All right, So here's where I'm gonna start. Yeah, you're eighteen.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You're eighteen.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
What keeps bringing you back to the NFL the game
of football? What brings you back to Arizona? You could
easily be playing pickleball right now and nicely retired. Why
keep playing?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
I love it? I don't know, man, I love it
so much. I mean, this is the best job in
the world. I dreamt of it since I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
I gave my heart to it. It's my first love,
you know, and it's gonna be hard to walk away
when the time comes. You know, it's gonna be hard,
you know, because I love it so much. You know,
eventually as to eventually, you know, the show show ends,
but not yet, not yet. And uh, what brings you
back is just I can still dominate it.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
I don't ever want to suck. I don't ever want
to be your guy that I can't can't get it done,
you know. But I still I'm still that guy. I
can still dominate.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So you know what's amazing is I have a sister
in law. She doesn't know a football from a foosball,
but she knows you. And I mentioned you're back, and
she said, oh, that's wonderful, and then she paused. She
realized it's been a long time, and she goes, is
he still good? And I said, you know what, I'll
ask him so you can still play?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
Yes, very much. So now I can't give you sixty
you know, you know, a solid thirty five. I'm a
dominant thirty five. You know, forty forty five I can
give you you know, you know in certain games, you know,
depending how the game flow goes. But you know, you know,
thirty forty five plays, you know, thirty to forty five
plays is definitely max you. I don't want anything less than.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
No real good right now.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So Koalas, I have to ask you this. We're right here,
obviously because of the history with this organization, the Arizona Cardinals,
you played nine years here. What was your reaction to
them being interested once again when you realized, man, you're
eighteen might be back in Arizona.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
I mean, it was like almost a real and I
was like, man, that would be it just an epic story,
you know, Like I mean, and you know, just a
you know, finale on a sense, you know, and I mean,
who knows, right there's I an't worry about the future,
but like, I mean, what a story of it is?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (16:15):
You know, all my family loved it, loved the idea
of it, you know, But I mean this is just
a special place, you know, it's you know, so many,
so many good memories. Man, this is is home, you know,
and uh, you know, I mean I just remember getting
drafted in uh that first season, like you know, just
like you know, I didn't even believe we're gonna go
to the super Bowl, you know, and just you know,
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I just was trying to do my part, trying to
earn my keeping us in this league, show that belonged,
and uh, you know, you look fast forward to all
these years later, and it's like just a crazy experience,
you know. But I do think that, you know, I'm
better than ever you know up here, you know, and
I still have enough physical you know, ability, and so
I feel like, you know, I'm going to make a
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big impact here and I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know. What was funny is there were a lot
of people that when they first heard this, they were saying,
to me, Oh, he's going to do the sign, He's
going to sign and retire.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Is that what He's good? I mean, no way.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I was like, no, have you looked at his production
last year? How well Kalaias played.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I did not realize You've started all seventeen games each
of the last two years.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Is that real?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Or is that a typo that because last week on
this show we had Frosty Rucker on he called you
quote a DEMI got. That's when he called you. You
mentioned your rookie year. Let's go on the cold Tub
time machine. We're going to flash back to two thousand
and eight. I mean, it is remarkable you played in
the Super Bowl. Okay, you weren't even old enough to
rent a car at this point, and here you were.
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We go into the archives when you were miked.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Up ten to the fifteen of the twenty and then
gets just drilled by Kalaias Campbell, whoawan for.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Me, is amazing, just going out there and showcasing all
the hard work I'm putting in all week. You hyped
up and screamed Yale, you know, whatever it takes for
me to go out there and get myself out of
my plates. The speed of the game was definitely different,
but as I got a couple of games with my belt,
you know, started to slow down for me and started
to become, you know, just a typical speed.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm used to Las Campbell continue your star gone.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
I was always tired. You know, you gotta run to
the ball every play, you know, every time.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
I want to fail.
Speaker 10 (18:16):
I give him all we were going wired in to
Calais Campbell.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I mean, all all those roars permanently changed your voice.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
As a kid, I'm a baby, so so think about this.
You are eleven years older than your d line coach. Yes,
what is that like when you're in that locker room?
I mean, Wolf got the old guy jokes when he
was in year ten. You're in your eighteen. Okay, Now
it's a badge of pride, obviously a badge honor when
you get the old guy jokes. What is it like
for you now in the locker room?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Yeah, I'm being old guy jokes for a long time.
I mean, you know, I beget old guy jokes since
I was here. You know, a lot of jokes, you know.
But I say that, you know, I mean lately, the
last couple of years, I've been having coaches that are
younger than me. And it's unique, you know, you know,
But I always telling him, like, just coach me same
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way you coach anybody else, Like you know, like you
got treat me no different. Like I love ball, I
love the game. You know, if we have a disagreement
on something, I'm you know, talk to you about it
in football terms and why I think I should do
something this way versus that way. But you know, it's
been awesome. And Coach d Boat, you know, I mean,
he just brings a lot of passion and love for the game.
And like I mean, I know he's twenty seven, you
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know he's a young buck, but he but he loves
he loves ball. You know you can see that it
just alludes through him, like he is a guy who
loves ball like I love ball. And anytime two people
love ball like that, I mean, it's always going to
be a positive experience. And you know I told him,
like you know, like you know, I want to be
a value adder in every circumstance. So like you know,
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wherever you finl like you know, you need me to
step in and say stuff. I talk to me. Let
me know, you know, I tell you if I feel
like I you know, see something, I want to say something.
You know, but you know, show show and I love
just being here, put my hand in to pile. And
you know, coach me the same way you coach anybody else.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know what's amazing about it. You say love ball,
and I know you love ball because I can watch
you play, and watching you play tells me that you
love ball. But I'm going to ask you this class,
why why do you love football? What is it about
the blood sport that you love so much?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Man, well we're getting deep, heerd in, Okay, he's yeah,
Because I mean I was a really good basketball player, right,
and I believe if I put the record in the
basketball football probably could have been pretty good, you know
what I mean. I know that's a big debate going on.
I was pretty good, and I never power into power forward. Yeah,
and I never really trained hard basketball. Basketball was just
like fun, like I never like grinded football. I grind it,
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you know, ever since before I even played basketball, like,
I love football since I was a kid, like I remember,
I think, really what makes football real special is that
you can't do it by yourself. You need a team.
Everybody has to be a part of it. And I
grew up with five brothers, two sisters, like we were
always like, you know, team oriented. My dad raised this
to be like a tight you know, And so I
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just love the part of the game where like you
can't do it by yourself, you got to be able
to inspire and bring people together, and that's just like
some kind of a beauty that you can't get any
other sport, you know, Like I mean, I know everything
is a team sport, but it's not the same, you know,
it's completely different. And you know, I mean I've been
trying to, you know, shopping on my tools and figuring
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out how to be better each and every year. And
I feel like this is the best I've ever been
from as far as a leader. And you know, and
you know, Arizona Cardins will get the best version of me.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I'm guessing you're gonna be good for Paris Johnson Junior.
Oh yeah, you go against him a young tackle. And
I bring that up partially because you went against him
last year and we have the audio to prove it
in Miami because Ris Johnson Junior was miked up rolling.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Come on, you said I was too young?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Oh hink, come on, Oh Jake, That's what I'm talking about.
Oh Jake, get your.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Hands up, Get your hands up. I'm not sure. I'm
not sure what that's all about. But uh, you are
known to have a conversation with a player or two
during the course of a game, are you now.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I love it.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
You know, I don't talk a lot of trash, but
I love communicating. I love when somebody has enough dog
in them to like, you know, stand the ground and
compete and talk a little trash. Now you know I
got the best of that at the very end.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
That's good.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
But you know I was very impressed with his ability, right,
you know, as a defence alignment, we have to think
that every sign that sucks, right, I don't give. I
don't I don't let the else alignment. I don't care
who it is. You put Joe Thomas, any of the
Hall of Famous back on the field, and my mind
saying I'm aout to dominate him. They can't block me.
I got that mentality like it is, you know, you know,
that's how it is. And so like you know, I
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try to you know, but he has potential. You know,
you see his potential. He's very gifted, strong, you know, smart, tough,
and it has that tenacity you need, like that competitive
edge you need. And so you know it's gonna be
fine going to you know, helping him develop and going
to battle with him, and you know your clays.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I have to ask you this matter. Why was he
saying get your hands up. Do you have any idea?
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Yeah, because he had clapped me down and I was
trying to get my hands about the ball and I
couldn't get him up anything like off my hands.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
So he was ripping you for that.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
On that play he got me, you know. I mean
he was a quick throw, so it wasn't much you
could do. But he my hands up. That's what I thought.
That's exactly what I thought, get your hands.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He could play some ball.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Now he was not bad.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He was punching you. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (23:52):
Now the Cardinals didn't want me because I played fairly
well that game too.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now, so well, reports said they tried to go after
you at the trade deadline.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
It was true, right, true, Rachel.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Very interesting, so cool. And I tell you what, we
can't look forward man, I mean I still I've been
smiling ever since you signed. I mean, we look forward
to this so very much. Think of how Falligol he's
going to be for Darius Robinson Lable his brand of
leadership and the ability to men.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Much of professional sports is about the intangibles, about the
leadership and culture of a team, and this guy is
going to be bearing the standard for that for the Cardinals.
Love you Koalis. Thank you man, so good to be
back there once again. Ninety three different shows you've been
a part of. Here the Big Red Rage presented by
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Santan Ford in Gilbert four.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Years as the host man of the Big Red Rage.
The guy Frosty Rucker once again called a demigod. We'll
be back with more of the Big Red Rage. Right
after this.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Murray takes the shotgun stat back to throw now a
lob near side. Poor McBride in the corner makes the.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Catch for the touchdown.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Ah, that's greasy good right there for Kyler Burray.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
And that was a tear drop a dime.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Murray to throw a fade right side of the end
zone on the money to Marvin Harrison Junior. Touchdown. What
a throw by furry cats his fourth touchdown pass, tying
a career high.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Kyler Murray put it out there and Marvin Harrison Junior
went and got it.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Tex fits and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior
just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying
it with an Kwan Bolden and Larry for most touchdown
catches by a rookie and team Histery Hey.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Ned I think everyone would agree. There's plenty upside in
the game of Marvin Harrison Junior. You're Trey McBride in there.
First Cardinals tight end to make a Pro Bowl since
nineteen the Hall of Famer Jackie Smith. If Kyler can
get back to a Pro Bowl and Marvin Harrison Junior
can elevate in the next level, which would put him
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flirting with a Pro Bowl, think of where this Cardinals
offense can be. It is a big red rage presented
by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron Wolfley. We're
both still smiling. Kaleis Campbell, Yes, oh my goodness, what
a dude, I mean, what an absolute gift. Talk about
winning the offseason. Just adding Kaleis Campbell right there.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, and once again, because he's going to be a
starter ball. He's going to be a starter. He's going
to line up and he's going to start swinging from
play one.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
And we've seen him each of the last two years.
Cardinals played Atlanta two years ago, they played Miami last year.
I did not realize he started all seventeen games each
of the last two seasons.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So he said he's missed fourteen games in his career unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And now maybe the best part for Kalais is he
doesn't have to chase Kyler Murray around, as he talked
about with the media earlier today as well. All Right,
so look, we've talked a lot about Trey brid we
just did. We've talked a lot about Marvin Harrison junior,
Kyler Murray going into year eight. Where can he get better?
Where can Kyler Murray elevate his game to the next level?
(27:10):
Where and how?
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know, for me, Paully, once again, it's just throwing
the ball from the pocket, I think is the biggest
thing schematically right now that Kyler Murray could actually improve on.
It's what he needs to do when he gets outside
of the pocket. To me, he's very very good at
seeing the field, looking downfield, making a play or pulling
it down and actually running. But to me, when you've
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got the kind of running back that the Arizona Cardinals
have with James Connor, you're attacking the line of scrimmage
very very much. You're putting his toes at six and
you're gonna line up, You're gonna put Kyler Murray under center,
and you're attacking the line of scrimmage at anytime you
do that, the play action that comes off of that
is so important. He needs to evolve and become a
(27:54):
better thrower from the pocket, even more than what we
saw last year. Marvin Harris Junior and Kyler Murray, that
chemistry has got to improve, it's got to get better,
and it's got to get better from the pocket. In PAULI,
if that happens, I'm telling you right now, mark this down.
(28:15):
If that happens, it's going to set off a chain
reaction that will allow the Arizona Cardinals to actually win
the division.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Well, that sort of team improvement was something Kyler Murray
and self spoke about with you and Luke on your
weekly show Arizona Sports. And here he is Kyler Murray
on the twenty twenty five Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
We made a lot of strides. Obviously, I know we
didn't end the season the way we wanted to end it.
I know we felt like we should have been in
the playoffs. I believe that we should have been in
the playoffs. We have to be better in certain situations,
and I truly believe that we will be better next
season in those situations. To be able to take that
next step get over the hump. In this offseason, I
think we're on the right path adding the new editions. Josh,
(28:55):
you got Dalvin, a lot of other guys, but you know,
I'm super excited.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
There you go, Kyler Murray, who, by the way, is
going into year seven. Little fact check on that one.
What other takeaways did you have after visiting with the
Cardinals franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, you know, PAULI just how much more mature he
actually sounds when you talk to him now than when
he was younger. And that makes an awful lot of sense,
of course, right going into year seven. Like you said,
But man, I just want to clarify a little bit
more on what I was talking about Pauli, because if
Kyler can improve that chemistry with Marvin Harrison Junior and
(29:32):
start throwing the ball down the field and doing it better,
it's going to make the Cardinals so much better. And
the reason why I say this is because of James Connor,
because of their ability to attack the line of scrimmage
and then use play action to take shots down the field.
When you've got teams that are sucked up to the
line of scrimmage and run down situation because of James
(29:54):
Connor being able to run the ball so well and
because of having a very physical offensive line. If they
can do that, if they can just improve that part
of it, they're going to be a much better offense.
And a much better offense is going to score more points,
and a much better offense is going to have leads
in the fourth quarter. And that means that going out
(30:15):
and getting a Delvin Tomlinson, getting a Josh Sweat, getting
Kalais Campbell and Darius Robinson in his second year, having
guys that can rush the passer when you have a
lead in the fourth quarter is going to be really
really good for your odds of winning a game.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Right to your point, Remember how Jonathan Gannon always cites
explosive jump place right, So okay, last year Cardinals were
top five in explosive run plays of both ten and
twenty yards. Top five. Know where they were an explosive
pass plays? Yeah, bottom third.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
So if you can add that, add that to your arsenal,
your repertoire as an offense, you know, you get teams
out of the shell, coverage, the two high safety all
of a sudden, and then if you can create some
room up front because you've got to drop guys back
and respect some of those chunk throws. Boom, here's James Connor,
who's already one of the league leaders yards from scrimmage.
And so all of a sudden, you're right, that's the
(31:13):
rising tide that lists the entire offense.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And once again, Paul, if that happens, you're gonna have
more leads. You're just gonna just by the odds of
being a good offense, you're gonna have more leads in
the fourth quarter. Now, all of a sudden, you know,
depending on how much you're up, the other team's gonna
have to throw the ball. And remember, the Arizona Cardinals
didn't suck buttermilk at getting to the quarterback last year
(31:38):
when they had to scheme everything.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
That's a difference. They had to manufacture so many of
those sacks affecting the quarterback based on scheme. Now, if
it's more about the players and rushing for what does
that enable Nick Rowlis and Jonathan gan and to do
schematically behind that front.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Four that's exactly right. And again you can just line
up four guys. That's the best kind of pass rush
that you can pop possibly have if you can get
pressure on the opposing quarterback. Line up four guys and
get in the quarterback's face or get to them and
knock them down. I think they're gonna have four guys
right now, Pauli. And again, the rotation is gonna be
(32:14):
a work in progress. But when you think of Josh
Sweat on the outside, when you think of bj Ojelai
and we'll see young guy looked really promising, he's got
to prove it. But you think of Darius Robinson, you
think of Kaleis Campbell, you think of Dalvin Tomlinson, you
think of these those five guys specifically. Man, you're gonna
(32:36):
have a nice rotation of rushing for dropping seven and
I think you're gonna get pressure on the opposing quarterback
and that's great for defensive coordinator Nick Rowlins.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
No mistake that Kyler Murray cited that to both you
and Luke on your show. In fact, you guys got
talking about Trey McBride as you should, right, the record
setting tight end who just reset the tight end market,
and Kyler talking about how the tight end a QB's
best friend.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I've never played with a tight end like cherry. You know,
so they say, you know, growing up, we play quarterback
a tight ends, you know, the quarterback's best friend, and
this guy right here is the true definition of that.
You know, doesn't matter if he's covered, which most of
the time he's not, because he runs great routes, which
is you know, the minority for you know, tight ends usually.
But this dude is super athletic. He loves the game.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You know.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
It's just great to see his maturation because coming from
being a wide eyed rookie to make mistakes and having
those rookie mishaps to now being a guy who can
correct other guys, you know, and get us in the
right stuff and tell people what they're doing. You know,
it's a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
He had one hundred and eleven catches Trey McBride in
sixteen games. That's more than Larry Fitzgerald ever had in
the season. There were three games where he had a
dozen or more catches. Right now, if I'm in the
rest of the division, if I'm Mike McDonald in Seattle,
Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, I'm imploring my defensive coordinators to
figure something out. How do we defend Trey McBride because
(34:00):
killed us in all six division games last year.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
No doubt, bully, that is going to be job one.
Well maybe not job one when you look at James
Connor and the way he runs the ball. But having
said that, I love the fact Kyler said wide eyed
right there, wide eyed. You know what's so fascinating? Running
good routes and being a good route runner takes your
eyes as well. Watch it, Pauly. You watch receivers when
(34:25):
they want to go right, they'll look left, do you
know what I mean? Sure, like break it down and
look left. Dwight Clark was the master at running those routes.
Trey McBride also is really really good at making the
dB who's trying to actually use leverage to cover him,
making that dB get out of leverage and all of
(34:46):
a sudden he uses his eyes to get open and
run routes. He's excellent at doing it. And that's something
that is innate. You either have it or you don't.
Trey does.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
And he's always had the best hands on the team.
Oh man, I mean you saw that from the get go.
The first rookie mini camp after he was drafted fifty
fifth overall, you just saw easily he caught the ball
how naturally was as a pass catcher. So now you
had the other elements, and you know, it's amazing down
on the sideline. And I've told this anecdote before. He
could have twelve targets, eleven catches, and he's still seething
(35:19):
about the one catch he didn't reel in, even though
it wasn't even reasonably in his catch radius. That's how
competitive he is.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
He's super competitive, and it's one of the reasons why
he's such a good blocker. And that drives him crazy
too when he's missing blocks. And fortunately, this is something
that I think is only going to get better with him.
He's got to watch his weight, but hopefully it's just
going to get better for him in terms of blocking.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
See, there are a couple of sleepers coming in this year.
Isaiah Adams I think is a sleeper, especially if he
put on weight this Aime, I agree with that. The
other sleeper is tip Ryman. I think if they get
tip Ryman involved in the past game a little bit
more a little bit, we'll see, but you know, get
that mandatory one tight end screen per game to tip Ryman.
(36:05):
Here comes two hundred and eighty pounds who wants them
and get him involved a little bit more. I think
that could be That could be an effective like offspeed
pitch compared to a Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, first of all, don't get me started on Tip Ryman.
And by the way, Tip, if you're listening, Park at
the Moon just saying all.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Right, here we go. Draft is coming up. And guess
what last year's top draft pick, number four overall, Marvin
Errison Junior. His jersey recently dropped. You can get it
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(36:47):
needs have they changed? Are they still building from the
inside out? We'll get into all that. And what a
former Cardinal thinks about this draft class that is next
in the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Third to sixth?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
What is Jackson always pass again?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
You flicking it is deck at the funny seven yard
line the team Davis.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Cather, Let's got to throw Flesher Hayes's Jack Dalvin Tomlinson
flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
He is sad.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Tomlinson in trouble down he.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Collins down with thomainson there and the ball came out Parks.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
In trouble he is shacks Josh Sweat with his sack
and he was under pressure.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Again, swung down Turney nine yard line. Josh Sweat here
is hairs again and he.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Gets Watt just nowhere to go, and Josh Swett was there,
here's my.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Homes Prussia, I don't in the hill is sick. Josh
Sweat gets.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Home and he got the Lombardi nearly got the Super
Bowl Most Valuable Player of horror as well with two
and a half sacks. He was a headache. He was
a menace. And that Eagles defense in front was the
difference as they got after Patrick Mahomes. And what did
Josh Sweat say here on the Big Red Rage and
in meeting the media that the way Vic Fangio used
(38:09):
him in the Super Bowl is exactly the way Jonathan
Gannon used him in Philadelphia. Just go, just get off
the ball and go and just create havoc. So when
you look at the addition of Joshua here on the
Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I
think of a team like Denver a year ago, and
here's why they led the NFL in sacks with sixty three.
(38:31):
And what do they do. They broke an eight year
playoff drought, even with the rookie quarterback. So the Eagles
proved it in the Super Bowl. The Broncos proved it
go into the postseason. Guess what. It's not just about quarterback.
It's about getting to the quarterback. And if you can
do that, you can be a really successful team. And
hopefully the Cardinals elevated themselves in that department.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Well, it's one of the reasons why the edge position
has been elevated to the degree in which it is now. Paully,
there are so many any edge players that get paid
huge money, And how important is it that you have
an edge rusher at least one? Man, if you got two,
that's awesome, but give me one.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
If you gave me my power poll position groups. I
think the Cardinals are valuing right now in the draft.
I'd have corner three, edge two because they made the
d line additions, okay, And I'd have offensive guard one.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Right now, okay.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
And I bring that up because look, if all these
teams are building up their defensive fronts, protect thy quarterback,
and there are obviously a few really marquee names and
players in this draft. When it comes to offensive line,
Cardinals continue to build from the inside out. One name
that's been attached to the Cardinals in multiple mock drafts
Calvin Banks Junior, the All American out of Texas. I
(39:49):
like them, AQ Shipley justin Pew two guys. We definitely
like former Cardinal offensive linemen. Great guys, great personalities, and
some great analysis on the Clean Pocket Podcast. When comes
to Calvin Banks, I.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
Think he's the most physical. I think he plays with length.
I think he can handle the bull rush. I think
he's athletic as hell. There's clips that you can find
on tape of him running, you know, Ali screens and
speech greens, getting out in space and decleating corners. That's
exactly what you need athletically from a tackle. He's de
cleayton D tackles. He's getting to the second level. He's
getting on them guys. When he's playing on the edge
(40:22):
against the edge rushers, good pass sets. He's never given
a soft edge.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I could easily see the Cardinals going for Calvin Banks
Junior out of Texas first team All Americans six five
three fifteen. And here's a big reason why. Yes, he
was the starting tackle, but he has the ability supposedly
to go inside. So let's say you used him inside
as a rookie and then Jonah Williams. Depending on what
his future is the final years his contract, maybe he's
(40:47):
your franchise right tackle going forward.
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
You know, for me, Pauli, Calvin Banks Junior, if somebody
said that was going to be the pick at sixteen,
I'd be fine. I'd be absolutely fine with that, because
again I'm about building the interior offensive line, and if
he could ever kick out to tackle at some point
in time, I'd be absolutely fantastic. But I think the
line of scrimmage, once again, you can't be too physical
(41:12):
on the line of scrimmage. You can't. You gotta get
guys who play in a very physical kind of way
to be physical, and Calvin Banks Junior is one of
those guys.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Do you consider offensive guard interior O line at this
point in the offseason a need or a want?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, for me, I consider it to be really the
only need for the Arizona Cardinals. I think Moni's done
a great job of going out in free agency, and
he's talked about this. It was his goal. But going
out there and patching some holes in free agency, of course,
and doing it with an awful lot of money, I
(41:51):
might add, And then of course, you know, I would
like to see them go with an interior offensive lineman
in the first round. Now, listen, there are some people
out there talking about a scenario where Tyler Booker, somebody
you know, I really love, Tyler Booker, might drop out
of the second round. Well, I say this right here.
(42:11):
The only thing better than getting Tyler Booker in the
first round is getting him in the second round. And
if you're going to tell me that they can get
him in the second round, and maybe you take Matthew Golden,
I don't know, a wide receiver from Texas. Maybe you
take him at sixteen. And if you're gonna tell me
that Tyler Booker is going to be there at forty seven,
(42:32):
which I will believe when I see it, yeah, I'd
be okay with that because the one thing that I
do think would really help this offense is a wide
receiver who can hurt you downfield, who's running a four
to nine.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
That's really interesting because there have been a number of
mock drafts that have had at least three different receivers
going to the Cardinals at number sixteen overall, and going
into this process, I never would have thought receiver in
round one, but there have been some visits as well,
and there's a lot of unknowns in this draft. Where
is shder Sanders going? Yeah, where is someone like James
(43:09):
Pierce Junior going? Where is Shamar Stewart going with all
that potential and little production? Tyler Booker, I mean still
mock drafts have him gone ten or thirteen to the
Bears and Dolphins, or or mel Kiper to your point,
has him gone to the Cardinals at forty seventh over
It is amazing this draft this year. I don't know
what the war room's all about, but the mock drafts
(43:31):
have certain players all over the first round and into
the second and so based on what the Cardinals do,
I'll throw out a name. How about Josh Simmons, the
stud offensive line for Ohio State had his season cut
short by a pateeller tendon injury. But guess what your
offensive line coach used to be Ohio State's O line
coach Justin Fry.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yes, and it's going to be interesting to see because
Josh Simmons, at least from some of the guys I've
talked to, might not have the dog mentality. That has
been a bit of a knock against Josh Simmons. Now again,
he's got all the athletic ability you could ever want.
He's an excellent offensive lineman. But is he going to
(44:11):
have that dog mentality? Do you want that? That has
been the question. And again these are just objections that
I'm bringing up that I have heard, PAULI.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
You also have NFL dot Com their latest mock draft,
Kenneth Grant going to the Cardinals at sixteen, the d
tackle big guy. Okay, I'd be okay, And you know
what I mean. Look, LJ. Colli are on a one
year in deal, Justin Jones baall Nichols after this season,
you could easily part ways in terms of the business side.
So if the Cardinals go defensive lineman at sixteen still
(44:42):
with all the additions, man, it could make sense.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's it could.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
And you know what, I think many loves this because
there's at least a half dozen different positions that have
been named in mock drafts. There is no real trend
for the Cardinals and a lot of these mock drafts
and we'll see what happens Draft Night two weeks from
tonight for Koalascampbell and Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvic Special
Thanks as always Jim al Mahundro, Cody Fincher, Evan Reiser.
(45:09):
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Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, y'all.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
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