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June 12, 2025 45 mins
Ep. 720 - Offensive lineman Isaiah Adams ended his 2024 rookie season with five starts at right guard. How will that experience help him in 2025? Adams joined Paul Calvisi to discuss that, along with his offseason strength training, adjusting to new offensive line coach Justin Frye, learning the playbook, and being free from rookie duties. Calvisi and Ron Wolfley also break down the end of minicamp, the offense’s continuity, Marvin Harrison Jr.’s path to superstardom, and how 2025 top pick Walter Nolen III is already impressing a pair of veteran defensive linemen.

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Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.
I'm telling you I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
The fjord here in Arizona, June and July our four
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get out of town or you get after it yo.

(01:23):
And that's what the Big Red has been doing at
Mandatory Mini Camp in fact in eleven on eleven, Ron Wolfley,
sources might have told yours truly that the D might
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(01:43):
Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We
are santan Ford soon to star Isaiah Adams, your two guard,
starting right guard. We'll find out about that. Paul Calvic here,
Ron Wolfy there.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh, Paly, it's hot with two t's. That's your four
letter word right there. Hot with two t's. It is
boy brings back memories too, You know this, Pollie, when
it gets hot here. How many times do you think
I've actually had a mini camp that has been here
in the base of Paul. How many times have I
actually experienced that, Paul? Well, I can tell you it

(02:15):
was multiple years, Paulie. And it is hot and this
always gets me fired up. And the reason being is
because when you're done with mini camp, the next thing
on your list to check, the next box to check,
is training camp.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
So there they went and it was all three days,
Ron molfully all three days. Jonathan Gannon didn't kick him
out a day earlier or anything. They went at it
all three days of mandatory mini camp and now next
stop Cardinals training camp in late July.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, but PAULI did he not shorten practice today? Did
he not do that? Paul shortened practice a little bit.
I can't tell you how many coaches, POULI I have
been involved in, how many head coaches. Once they think
you've had a pretty good mini camp and they know you,
you know what, they listen, we've had three great days,
and we're gonna go ahead. I'm gonna let you I'm
gonna let you go early. I'm gonna cut you loose

(03:08):
early because we've had some great days and we all
know what's coming next training camp. Paul, That's what I
think happened.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, maybe JG saw what he needed to see all
three days, because, let the record reflect, he cut practice
short a little bit each and every day, just to.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Let you do. What's your point, Paul.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You know what we're gonna save you forget about what
JG saw. Let's hear what JG thought they accomplished this spring.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Our learning was definitely accelerated. I think the new guys
in the building their first year, whether it be free
agents or rookies, are caught up to speed and this,
you know, these last eight weeks or whatever really just
a stepping stone towards camp, you know, so they know
they got to hit the ground run, they got to
do the right things, and they're off time and be
ready to go.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
All right, my top takeaways, thanks for asking Ron. Hopefully
here we go. Let's not bury the lead. When you're
standing there as a media pencilneck and you're watching from
under the glorious shade of the big trees in the
side of the field by the way, and you look
over there and you see Kaleis Campbell standing next to
Dalvin Tomlinson standing next to Darius Robinson, who's standing next
to this year's round one d Lineman Walter Nole in

(04:16):
the third who's then standing next to Josh Sweat, the
biggest fish. And free agency. I mean you talk about
before and after along the defensive front. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
This is one of the best things and I cannot
wait to see told training camp Pauli. The physicality, of
course of the Arizona Cardinals has skyrocketed. It has on
this team. How do I know that when they haven't
put any pads on whatsoever. Well, I know that because
of the players they've brought into that locker room and
in the off season, there's no doubt of what Kalayis Campbell.

(04:46):
You gotta tell me, Kalais Campbell does not make you
more physical, Dalvin Tomlinson, You're gonna tell me, Dalvin Tomlin said,
does not make you more physical? Josh Sweat setting the
ads at two sixty five. Bring it on, bro, They
are more physical because of the faces that have names
that they brought into the locker.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Room earlier today. Did you not interview Nick Rowlis, Cardinals
defensive coordinator. Oh yeah, Did you not see maybe a
little thought bubble over his head at one point where
he thought about all the possibilities everything again, now dial
up that he has Josh Sweat and all these other
additions to his defensive line.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, I'm I don't know if I saw the thought bubble, Polly,
I don't think I saw that, But I was staring
into his eyes because you know Nick, Nick is one
intense doom. Yeah, And I just tell you I love
the fact he doesn't take his eyes off you. He
just kind of looks at you and he's piercing, and
he's looking right through you. Say, you know what I
love doing, Paul. I just love looking right back at him,

(05:45):
you know what I mean? No, Nick, who's gonna blake first?

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
This guy is intense and I love the smoldering Nick Rowlis.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, so let's peel back that matchup Ron Wolfully and
Nick Ross. What it really boils down to is a
f versus a former middle linebacker. He was a middle
linebacker in college. You're the former fullback that That's what
that boils down to.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
He's got the defensive mentality right now. And I asked
him this question. I did say, do you feel like
a kid on Christmas morning? Do you feel like a
kid with this offseason and all the new pieces, all
the things that glow and glitter that are coming into
this locker room. Wave it around, Rowlet's wave it around

(06:28):
because I can't wait to see how he uses a
lot of these names that have faces.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
All right, one of those names we just dropped, Kalais Campbell.
By the way, Khalais is older than every single defensive
assistant coach on this team. In fact, he said that
his oldest son is closer in age to Walter Nolan
than he is to Walter Nolan. The twenty one year
old rookie Khalais has seen his share of football, So
the question what does he think about this team this year?

Speaker 7 (06:54):
It's cool to have a ches to come back and
do something great here. And you know, team's always the
team has high asked questions going into the season, and
this team is no different, you know. And I go
out there and asks throwing the ball around and playing
a little football and say, okay, we look pretty good,
you know, and you know, I think that everything is
on the table for us. Right Obviously it's not work.

(07:15):
You got to, you know, do everything you're supposed to do,
you know, between now and try to camping and try
to camp everything's come together. But this team is special.
I believe it has all the tools to make a run.
And think you'd be a great story.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know what, Paula, you say if you're a veteran
NFL player, you know what you say right there when
asked that question and talking about it, you say anything
except this team is special. If you really don't believe it,
you say anything. You say stuff like, hey, listen, we've
got a long season ahead of us, and all we
got to do is work. We've got to build our
culture here, We've got to build our foundation. We've got

(07:48):
to work. We we're not even thinking about anything. You
don't ever say, Paul, that we're special. This team is special,
and we have a chance. Everything is in front of us.
I think Kalais Amble believes every word of that. And
you know what else, Paully, I think every guy in
the locker room believes every word of that. Why because

(08:08):
of the talent and the way the talent has been
distributed offensively and defensively inside that locker room. That should
be the expectation coming off the season they just did.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
There are two elder statesmen in that locker room, Kalais
Campbell and fourteen year evet Kelvin Beacham. Yeah, Kelvin Beacham
was on with you earlier this week and I actually
wrote down the quote Ron wollfully, don't worry about it.
I'm doing your work for you over here. He said.
The locker room really understands how important this year is
on so many different levels. It's year three of the rebuild.

(08:42):
It's a performance based business. Playoffs are long overdue. We
had dinner as a team last night, and it gets
to the point where you say this has to occur
this year as a team, and you can't say we
don't have all the pieces. That is Kelvin Beachum, junior players,
no players. They know they have the finally to compete.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
That's that's well said by you, PAULI, and it was
even better well said by him. I was gonna say that.
I was going to actually say that quote from memory, Paul,
if you read it, I was gonna do it for
memory right there. Okay, Ron molfl Colmin Beacham is on
board with the no shit. They should be a playoff team.

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(09:44):
dot com all right, you're one of year two. We
talk about big jumps. Does that include offensive linemen? Of
course it does. Isaiah Adams is next on the Big
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Speaker 8 (10:03):
The seventy first pick into twenty twenty four NFL Draft,
the Arizona Cardinals select Isaiah Adams, guard University of Illinois.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
This guy's a maller.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I mean, he'll get after you.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
And that's we're looking for grimy offensive linemen and we're
gonna put your face in the dirt, you know.

Speaker 9 (10:21):
And this guy is that kind of a guy.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
He loves ball. He's a finisher. Off the field, I'm
really polite, kind of laid back. But on the field,
it's it's time to part of my language. But it's
time to kill people.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Okay, keywords there, maler, grimy finisher facing the dirt. And
then that last line got my attention. So note to self,
choose your words carefully. Calvic okay for the next few minutes.
But wait a minute, come on now. Isaiah Adams is
our guest here on the Big Red Rage presented by

(10:54):
San tan Ford and Gilbert. I don't see that mean
mug right. Now, that's that's Sunday, you right, that's not
Monday through Saturday.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
You.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
I mean for about two to three hours every day
through Monday through Saturday. Because you know, I think it's
something you got to train throughout the week, you know,
finishing and just playing with that intensity. It doesn't start
on Sunday. It starts on Tuesday. And just as the
mindset when you step on the field, it's like that's
kind of you. You can't turn it on and off.
It's just what you do when you step in between

(11:24):
those white lines.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
But when you put the helmet on, you do transform mentally,
don't you.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yeah, Like, I think it starts with the taping. As
soon as I tape my hands, it's it's just like
they turn into weapons. Wow, I like that.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
That is great. Isaiah Adams is our guest Cardinals offensive lineman.
All right, wait a minute, I just got a text
from Wolf here. He wants me to stop everything and
ask you the obligatory what is your weight at Isaiah?

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Like, I'm around three twenty some days after a weekend,
it's three twenty five, and you know I'll here in
the heat some days it's three fifteen after practice. So
but anywhere in between those.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Okay, more important portantly, what were your offseason goals? And
I'm guessing from what I've heard, getting stronger was near
the top of the list. True or false?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
True? That was my main goal, was to get stronger,
but also just learn the playbook a bit better as well.
And I think that's everything I did this offseason and
it's allowed me to have a better OTA than last year.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Can you sense it? I know it's not full pads,
but can you sense it? Can you feel it? The
added strength when you're out of the field.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah, I could feel the strength, and I could feel
the game slowing down. And it's allowing me to just
help others and communicate better and just play faster.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
So Yolda Froholt just talked in the media this week,
asked about you. He said those final five games that
you started were invaluable. How do you think that helped
you become a better player?

Speaker 6 (12:47):
I think you know, anytime you're out there with live bullets,
and you know, those environments, playing in the Seahawks stadium,
playing in Minnesota, like, those environments are tough environments for
even veterans to play. In so the fact that I
was my first year getting to those experiences, it's gonna
you know, it's gonna help a lot going into this year.
And yeah, man, it was tough, you know, but at
the same time, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

(13:09):
And I'm so happy I was able to get in
there and see how Kyler calls the plays in the
huddle live scenario, see how Yoda calls his calls, and yeah, man,
it was good.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Paris Johnson Junior his rookie year, faced the likes of
Nick Bosa twice, Miles Garrett, I mean, Micah Parsons, right,
t J. Watt. It was an unbelievable list of pass rushers.
Who were some of the guys you went against last year?
And what do you think going against some of those
veterans like that, what did that do for your game
in particular?

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Yeah, Like some of those guys for me were Kenny
clark on the Packers, Klays Campbell that we just got,
Kobe Turner, and Malie Collins, guys that have played a
lot of football before. So those were names that I
definitely remember from my first year.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
And yeah, because we talk, you know, we hear all
this and and you know rightfully, so all right, all
these skilled position guys can make the jump from year
one to year two. What about an offensive lineman?

Speaker 6 (14:05):
Uh? Yeah, I think anyone can make the jump. You know,
it's about what you do with the opportunity. So I think, yeah,
second year jumps for offensive linemen are huge. And I
you've seen some guys, especially guards throughout the league just
have a really good second year and solidify themselves. So
you know, I just take it one step at a time.
I'm worried about tomorrow's practice, but yeah, that's the goal
for sure.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
So put another way, Isaiah Adams, our guest, what do
you know that Hayden Connor, rookie into your offensive lineman,
is gonna find out this year if there were a
couple of main takeaways from your rookie season, what would
you share with a rookie today.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
He's gonna find out just how much this game means
to him when there's a guy beating him and and
he's not having a success he wants and it's challenging.
So I think through the challenges, Hayden's gonna find a
lot about himself and find out what motivates him. You
know now that we're in the NFL and you know,
you're not in a sense chasing a major goal anymore.

(14:59):
It's the mo motivation is different, and I think that's
what the rookies are gonna have to tap into, is
what brings you to practice every day because you've reached
one mountain, and how do you now get to another mountain?
So it's gonna take a you know, some strength for sure.
He's gonna have to figure out out.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, were you all too happy to hand over your
rookie duties to Hayden Connor?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Oh my god, I'm still so happy. I think that's
why I'm walking around here to a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
What does it mainly consist of snacks? I mean, you know,
I can only imagine the old line room's appetite.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
It's a list, man. It starts with snacks, it starts
with drinks. It's hot dogs after wins, it's it's jokes.
It's Beach's briefcase every morning, it's Beach's coffee.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It goes on.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Man, I'm so happy I ain't got to do it
no more.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Though, wait a minute, Beach has a briefcase. I mean
we always talk about what's he gonna when he's done playing,
and he's in year fourteen. When he's done playing, is
he is he more likely to be a governor or
a CEO? We don't know. It's a tough call.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Yeah, I don't know. I think both. Maybe maybe like
the mayor or something. I don't know of Arizona.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
All right, So look, training camp is the next stop.
And I really don't care when training camp starts. I
want to know when's the first O line D line drill.
Talk about that because for a lot of us to
go to camp, all right, that that's sort of appointment viewing,
if you will. What is that like for an offensive lineman?
That drill in particular when it's full go, like the.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Only way you can compare it is probably like you know,
late in the game two minute drives, when the pressure's on,
it's mono ly mono. So I think those drills help
those situations. But you know, everyone's everyone's jacked up. You
know it's your first taste of one on one competition
with pads. So yeah, man's.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Isaiah Adams is I guess how curious are you to
find out how your newfound strength will serve you in
those drills.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
I'm curious, but at the end of the day, it's
just I just got to get better every day, you know,
And I think there's not you know, there's not a
magic formula. I'm not a totally different, but I think
I'm better than I was yesterday. And that's all I
hope to do tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
When you look at the D line room and the
Cardinals invested more than one hundred and twenty million dollars
into fortifying the defensive front, I mean, if you want
to know about a D lineman, asking O lineman, what
have you seen so far? Especially out of the two
first rounders the last couple of years, Darius Robinson and
Walter Nolan.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Power speed, I think these guys are like playing light
years ahead of I was as a rookie and d
rob as a second year. I think, you know, these
guys play like veterans LJ Dante, JJ Man. I think
we're so deep this year, and I'm excited to see
how Kalais and Dalvin and Josh play too. So we're deep.

(17:39):
It feels a lot deeper. It feels like bodies, fresh
bodies are coming in and out and they're all talented.
So yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
You know. Kalais right. He was a longtime host of
this very show back in the day You're eighteen. But
he's also quick to remind us, and he did on there.
Hey I could still play. You went against him last year.
Give us a quick skyt of report on Kalaias Campbell.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
He can still play, simple as that. He's long, he's powerful,
and he's smart. The guy is thinking about the play,
like the next play. I can just even you could
see how he plays his eyes. He's thinking about other things,
like he's thinking about the backfield, he's thinking about you know,
he's so good at his job that it can allow
him to think a little bit second more second level

(18:21):
thoughts than just okay, I gotta block. You know this
guy in front of me. It's what's the what's the action,
what's the formation? I could just tell Clayis is just
such a smart player at this time of his career.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
And last guy, real quick, Dalvin Tomlinson. If he is
that disruptive dude over the nose, I mean that's a
real problem for any offense, right.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Yeah, for sure. I just looking at him walk around
the building. I'm like, this guy's gonna be a hard
time to block, so I'm excited to I'm happy he's
on our team, and you know, for a young offensive guard,
I think he's going to be vital to my career
and I'm gonna remember every rep that I get to
go up against him throughout these next couple of years.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
For those that don't know, Isaiah Adams began his college
career in on tear Right, You played high school football
in Canada? Yep, okay, what was that like? By the way,
what football in Canada, especially as a young guy, what
was that like?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Man, It's well, start off, we have three downs, so
it's a it's a little bit of a different game.
But at the same time, I think the trenches are
the trenches, like all on D line, one on ones,
you know, climbing up the linebackers pass pro So you know,
even in Canada, I think like tough, nasty, gritty, like
we're all terms that they used to describe me back then.
So just being able to get to America and show

(19:30):
those traits it was, that's kind of what brought me here.
For sure.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Your brother played minor league hockey, he did, Yeah, yeah,
and you played some hockey growing up.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
I did, for sure. It was a good game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
So are you hosting any Stanley Cup watch parties over
your place?

Speaker 8 (19:45):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Not No, not no parties. But yeah, me and Evan
we've been watching the Edmonton Florida series, So yeah, I'm
going for Edmonton, even though I'm a Toronto boy. But
Connomery David is definitely my guy for sure.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
What would that mean to the country of Canada or
regain the cup?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Bro, It's been a long time coming. It would mean
a lot. I think you'd see a lot of Torontonians
in Edmonton celebrating with them, so it'd be huge for
our country.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
All right, quick, a couple of quick, rapid fire questions,
I asked, he's a Hayting Connor trash talk Are you
a trash talker?

Speaker 6 (20:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
What if someone pokes the bear? All right? You know
what if someone starts, you know, really start irritating you,
will you let them have it?

Speaker 6 (20:22):
I just put them on the dirt. Really punches.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Best and worst thing about being a big guy.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Best thing the appetite, It's just never ending. The worst
thing is a man. I don't know, man, I'd say.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I see you guys, I see you guys on the plane.
I mean if you if you there.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
You go, there you go. I'd say the planes, man,
especially if you don't got a first class seat, you're cooked.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's gotta be a problem.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
And and your cheat when it's a cheat day, what's
your go to? Speaking of you know, speaking of appetite,
what is your go to?

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Man? I hope the coaches don't hear this. With five
guys is my cheat? That place has my heart? I
don't even know, all right, And.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I'm gonna bring it back to football here as you
wrap up with Isaiah Adams, Do you have a new
position coach? Yeah, justin Fry. What's that mean? Do you
have to prove yourself all over again with a new
position coach?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Yeah, yeah you do. And I think every year, no
matter if you have the same position, coach, you got
to prove yourself. But yeah, to have a new face
was it felt like I got drafted again and I
and I was happy about that. It was a fresh
start and I was able to, you know, show everything
I just worked for. So it was nice. There was
no bias. And man, coach Fry is I can't speak
enough about him. But he's a really good guy and
I think he's gonna be very helpful for me.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, the last thing I know anything about his
old line play Polly Pencilneck. I just see from a
distance he's always instructing, he's always teaching.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Always, he's really demonstrative for sure. That like into everybody.
It doesn't matter if you're year thirteen or you're a
year one. Everyone's getting coached. And you know, I think
it just brings the best out of our entire group
the room. And it's not like the young guys getting coach.
It's more so though all of us. We're all just
trying to get better.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
So you know what's interesting is your college career. You
started a bunch of games. They don't know your last
two years. Like the one position you didn't start at
is the position you're playing now. Yeah, right guard.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yeah, it's just funny how it all works out like that.
So yeah, just get ready, Just get ready?

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Was that a big transition? And then you know, considering
you has started the final five games, you have an
off season, how much better equipped now are you to
excel at right guard?

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah? Man, that's only only time will tell. But I'm
just just one play out a time, one day at
a time. I don't want to put too much pressure
on anybody.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Okay, all right, what are you gonna do for mental health?
To get away? You got six weeks before training camp?
What do you what are you gonna do to get
some mental health?

Speaker 6 (22:45):
So I'm actually headed back to Canada tomorrow and then
after about a week in Canada, I'm pretty refreshed and
ready to just just get back training and get back
out here and just enjoy the summer out in Arizona.
And I'm just training. Really, I just like to train
and just laid back. So as long as I'm doing that,
then my mental health is good for sure.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
And it's helped greatly since you have to worry about
the rookie duties. So that's all Hayden Connor. Yeah, there
you go, as we come full circle. Isaiah enjoyed it, Thank.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
You, Thank you guys so much.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
There you go, Isaiah Adams Year two, Round three pick
a year ago out of Illinois in this year's starting
right guard. We'll see as we continue with a big
red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we are.
Santan Ford.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Snap him Murray.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Stands in the pocket, huff Bake steps up, throws lobby
back of the end zone and it's caught for a
touchdown by Wilson. Kyler Hurry keeping that play alive and
then lobbing it to an open Wilson setting up deep
in the pocket, looking launching far side into the end
zone and Harrison laying out for it.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
He got it. Touchdown.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
What a catch, Carvin Harrison Junior, big time.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Oh my goodness, Darren is the explosive from eighteen.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Wide receiver screen over the middle cup by George of
the twenty got the first out of the ten.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
And the five hit the ends up in the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Greg George to catch and run on Furd and Long
a twenty three yard scar That was.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
So nasty right there to Greg Dorch.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Now a lop near side. Poor mccride in the corner
mix the catch for the touchdown.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
All that was greasy good right there from Kyler Burray.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
See we're already back to the skill players there. We
got that one segment there. We had the long, glorious
interview with Isaiah Adams Woodkelvin Beacham Junior tell you earlier
this week run hopefully about Marvin Arrison junior, you know,
and great he can bench press his car. The game
is still won in the trenches, is it not. So
we'll get to the Cardinals offense, we get to all
the skill guys. But give me a few takeaways impressions

(24:50):
from Isaiah Adams right there. In fact, your question about
his weight and the answer was it fluctuates anywhere from
three fifteen to three twenty five. Sounds like you during
the holidays. Honestly, that way fluctuation.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You're right, Baly, Even though strength for Isaiah Adams is
much more important than his weight. Even I love the
fact he said I got up to three twenty five
three twenty five, that sometimes he's down at three point
fifteen right after our practice, and then all of a
sudden he might be over three three twenty and maybe
three twenty five. I like Isaiah Adams at three twenty five.

(25:23):
Now he's got to get stronger once again. But I
think Isaiah Adams is going to be a huge story.
As a matter of fact, Can I just say this
to you, Bully right now, if there was one guy,
one second year guy that I'd love to see take
a jump, if I could only pick one it'd be
Isaiah Adams. And the reason being is because how important

(25:43):
I think he's going to be to the Arizona Cardinal's
ability to run the ball and attack the line of
scrimmage in a north south fashion, and Isaiah Adams is
going to be right in the middle of that. Give
me the three twenty five and a stronger version of
that all day long.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Well, most important things in football, let's just simplify it.
One quarterback to get to the quarterback. Three protect that quarterback.
Which brings us to Kyler Murray. Here he is going
into year number seven and he was just asked, hit
zoom out, tell us about how you feel at this
point in your career and how do you feel about
your offense.

Speaker 10 (26:18):
When they say that hitting your prime around about to
be twenty eight years old.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I feel good.

Speaker 10 (26:22):
I feel good.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
You know.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
I think we got a great young core guys in
the offense side of the ball. Obviously the defense. You know,
we hit the defense pretty hard this off season, so
I'm super excited to see what those guys are able
to do this season. But as far as offense goes,
I believe we've got the guys in there to go
do what we think we're capable of doing.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
If you had a wish list to checklist based on
last year, where or how do you think the Cardinals
offense can or should improve this year based on what
you saw last year? Where should this offense be better?
Where should they be putting the emphasis and efforts.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I've said this to you before, Paul, but I believe
it is the pass up part two, the key that
unlocks all locks for the Arizona Cardinals going forward. I'm
talking about their entire team, and that is Kyler Murray
and Marvin Harrison Junior creating that chemistry and getting on
the same page in regard to throwing the ball specifically
down the field. You tell me that happens, Paul. Right now,

(27:14):
you've got your wide receiver one. You don't need a
guy who's also running a four to three that is
out there as well. If you tell me they improve
their chemistry in terms of throwing the ball down the field,
and Marvin Harrison Junior starts attacking the ball high, pointing
the ball with his great athletic ability and his size,
his height. If that starts happening, that changes the entire

(27:38):
dynamic for the Arizona Cardinals, if they can start throwing
the ball down the field with more consistency, do you
think that could possibly improve the running game? Paul, do
you think that could improve it?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yes, indeed, because what the teams love to do they
get into the too high safe. Oh, you get into
the coverage.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
You could throw the ball down the field. So we're
worried about that. So we're not gonna jam up the box.
And if you're not gonna jam up the box, here
comes James Connor and then all of a sudden, if
your offense can actually move down the field and put
yourself in a position to score touchdowns, you're gonna score
more points because your offense is better. Period. And if

(28:18):
you're gonna score more points, your defense doesn't have to
be as good as lights out. It doesn't have to
be if you're gonna score more points. Listen, this defense
is getting ready to take a big step forward. I
truly do believe that. But the great thing is the
Arizona Cardinals. I don't think are gonna have to score

(28:40):
a ton more points than what they did last year.
In terms of winning games.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Well, they are tweaking, they are evolving the offense. There's
no doubt about it. Two things we learned here during
mandatory Mini camp. Number one, Trey McBride talking about how
there's much more motion this year, so get some of
these guys like Marvin Harrison Junior on the move. We'll
get to him in a bit. And then there's Kyler
Murray stressing the defense, getting out of the pocket, working

(29:05):
on that off schedule game got ball. And then of
course there's just year three of the Drew Petsen scheme
and everyone just knowing the playbook and instead of thinking,
you're just playing and when teams are disguising coverages and
you're able to instantly react right, And in fact, Greg
Dortch was talking about the importance of that continuity.

Speaker 11 (29:22):
Football is about being comfortable and just not having to
think when you're out there playing because the game is
so fast, you don't really have time to think. So
just not be able to think and just go out
and play free and just being in the system for
three years now is we're able to do that. So
you should see that in our play this year.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
See the chemistry that Kyler Murray had with Trey McBride
last year, I mean, some of the best chemistry in
the league.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Can you generate that with other receivers, with Marvin, with
Michael Wilson, with Greg Dortch, can they be go to
guys on third downs?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, you know, it's one of the reasons why Paully
I love the concept of throwing the ball specifically down
the field. More to Marvin Harrison Junior. Now, doesn't mean
you're not gonna hit him on a zero route, doesn't
mean you're not gonna hit him on a two route
or a three route. Of course you're gonna do that.
You're gonna have the short and intermediate routes as well.

(30:13):
But to me, if you tell me you've got a
deep threat, how much better does Trey McBride and Kyler
Murray get when you've got that. Let's face it, a
tight end isn't running a ton of nine routes down
the field. Not doing that. A tight end is typically
the short and intermediate stuff, and a lot of the
times it's over the middle of the field. You get

(30:35):
a guy like Marvin Harrison Junior, if in fact, he
can become a deep threat because you can throw the
ball down the field and there's not a lot of
six or four corners that can match up with him
one on one on the outside, and he improves his
ability to high point the ball in a contested catch
and go get it. Man, that is going to change
everything for Trey McBride underneath. Who are you gonna try

(30:58):
to take away? If you can consistently and dangerously so
throw the ball down the field to Marvin Erison Junior.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
And when you do, how much better is he this year?
How much more equipped is he this year? Or the
added muscle hashtag gains? If I'm Marvin Harrison Junior, I
cut the sleeves off every shirt I own. I mean,
he just killed it in the weight room. In fact,
Kyler Murray was asked about Marvin Harrison Junior's added muscle
the pitcher.

Speaker 10 (31:24):
No, Mar's been in there every single day since the
season start ended, So I don't you know, it doesn't
surprise me. And he loves the game, So I mean
the issue might be getting two to m big.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Here's the reality check.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
So you're saying it was mar Van Bill Bellichack. Is
that what you're saying? They were both in the weight rune. Okay,
here's the reality check. Every single game he will get
the best corner the other team has. You're gonna go
to Denver in the preseason, right, you're gonna have a
joint practice against the NFL Defensive Player of the Year
and Patrick Sartan.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
The second. You're gonna play Houston, you're gonna get Darryl
Stingley Junior. You're gonna play Seattle, you're gonna get Devin Witherspoon,
a two time All Pro two times this year. So okay,
you're not gonna roast and toast these cornerbacks. You have
to make the contested catch, have to so, as Greg
Dortsch also told us recently right here in this studio, Hey,
if you're a corner and you're trying to up muscle

(32:16):
Marvin Harrison Junior, now good luck with that. And that's
a lot of what Larry did. Right.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Get yourself between the dB and the football. Just gonna
say that, PAULI, should we be encouraged? Should we be
encouraged as Cardinal fans, that Marvin Harrison Junior is going
to be able to do this? I would say yes,
because we've already seen a wide receiver do that. Now,
he was from pitt don't hold that against him just
because he was from Pitt. Don't hold police. He's out

(32:44):
of Pitt. He's no longer playing for Pitt because of that.
We've seen Larry Fitzgerald. We've seen him and we've seen
him improve his ability to run routes and catch contested passes.
When he came in as a rookie, there was a
lot of that going on and he had to learn
the same thing and he did. That's why I'm encouraged

(33:06):
in every Cardinal fan should be.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Somebody needs to fact check how many Hall of Fame
gold jackets have come out of pit versus West Virginia.
Just wondering, asking for a friend. Here's the other thing
I'm gonna throw out there earlier today. Look, we know
about Marvin Erson Jr. You know about Kyler, you know
about pro bowler, Trey McBride, James Connor, Trey Benson. We're
talking about X factors this year. We had Isaiah Adams

(33:29):
on earlier. No doubt ye're one to year two. He's
a big part of this Cardinals offense. What about Trey Benson,
who said his goal this year is to have a
pair of RB ones. He wants to join James Connor.
I asked him about all right. James Connor said, you
killed the offseason yourself, and he said, yep, I put
on seven pounds and I feel way more explosive. Ooh,

(33:49):
think about that. Let that hang in the air. And
then I asked him, with James Connor's running style rubbed
off on him? Because you cited this analyzing the games
on the air, did you not as every game went
by last year before suffered the season ending ankle injury,
he looked more and more like James Connor kram at vertical.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
There's no doubt about that. And how how would that
not rub off on you if you're Trey Benson? Poly
Does Trey Benson have a little butt to him? Yeah,
he's got a little butt to him. So does James
Conner got a little butt to him as well. He's
got more speed, I would say than James Connor. James
Connor be the first one to tell you that. I
think Trey Benson is a guy that watched James Connor

(34:25):
run the ball and said, wait a minute, I could
do that, and I should do that. Be more decisive,
a little hiccup and then boom, pick a side. That's
what James Connor does. It's it's the three way go,
the fact that a running back can go left, he
can go right, or he can run over you. And
James Connor can do all of those things. So can

(34:46):
Trey Benson.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
So if you do the math, and our hashtag is
no math. But if he had those seven pounds to
what they listed in him at last year, he's somewhere
between two twenty and two twenty five.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
And here's a guy who ran a four to three
to nine and was disappointed with that, thought he should
have run closer to a fourth three. He had a
bad forty at the combine, and now he feels quote
way more explosive. Dot dot dot. Think about that and
your point. He did tell the media that when you
would ask James Connor for advice last year, James Connor
would say, more aggressive, run more aggressive, stop trying to

(35:16):
hit the home run, stop dancing, just go north and
take what they give you. And it's funny how you
end up number two in the NFL as a team
in yards per carry when that is the mentality right.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Would be awesome too, if in fact he could just spot,
just spot James Connor.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
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Speaker 3 (36:01):
The sellers at trouble him and Sack back at the
forty two by Nolan got up by Walter Nolan, Boy
Walter Nolan with a sack of fumble recovery and a
tackle prolong what play by Nolan to grab them at
the ankles and sack them.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I think they had a kind of an education session
on nutrition and we're in the dinner line together and
I see him measuring with a fist his broccoli.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I'm like, what are you doing, dude? You know.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
He's like, well, they said you know about a fist,
you know, So he listens, he listens, He's doing good.
He's doing well.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Dare I say, JG would call that winning behavior? Following
the nutritionists all right, the proportions I have to be exact,
you know, figure it out for ideal and superior performance.
You know your intake. You have to follow the experts.
Although that is the second time I've heard of broccoli
reference this week. First it was you on your diet.
You went on with cottage cheese and raw broccoli and

(36:58):
what else did you throw on? There?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Wolf with what he needs to hear hot sauce. Oh
my goodness.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Okay, it is the Big Red Rage, presented by santan
Ford and Gilbert. We are Santane Ford, Paul Calvic here
Ron Wolfley. There. I have to get rid of that
mental image right there. That's not another way you lose
weight by just making a dish that's so disgusting you
won't eat.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
No, you lose weight by having the fists that Paul
does because you just get little broccoli, just a very
small piece of broccoli.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
I see. Okay, look, let's forget about that. I got
two more words for you. Forget the broccoli. On Walter Nolan,
you're a Kalais, Campbell said about him. Two words lateral quickness. Yeah,
he said, that is what stands out immediately d liman
O d Lyman and when they watch other guys. Wow,
look at his lateral quickness. And Klaiya said, you know what,
that's something I've prided my own game on the ability

(37:48):
to get down the line as soon as the ball
is snapped, be disruptive in that way. And he said, look,
he's got a long way to go. We haven't put
on pads yet, but just the athleticism and Walter Nolan
right now, you can see it Wolf, even a guy
like yours. Truly, when he's hitting the sled and getting off,
you can see how much quicki he is the most
of the other guys in line.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's right, PAULI. Here's the only other thing I would
say about this, because Kalais is right, the lateral quickness
to be able to keep your gap all the way
down the line, especially when you're talking about the tackle
zone era that we live in and right now the
stretch play. How important that truly is that you've got
defensive linemen who can get down the line and stay

(38:25):
in their gap. Very very important. The only thing I
would add to Kalis Campbell and what he said is, man,
wait till the vertical the vertical quickness starts happening and
starts showing, because that's when a three technique, that's when
a four eye technique, that's when a two eye technique.
That's when these defensive tackles can disrupt running place and

(38:49):
really mess him up. And that's what I'd love to
see from Walter Nolan at some point in time, because
he's got that kind of quickness.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, that is prophetical because kalais also added the he
has the ability to back door and coaches hate it
when d line and back door. But if you do it,
you have to be quick enough to make the tackle
for lostel Jerry Watt, yes, or else you create a
big lane, you know, a big gap, and then they
can hit you for a chunk run. But he said
Walter Nolan is one of the few guys who might

(39:16):
have that ability. More opinions from the veterans. There's Dalvin
Tomlinson on what he's seen from the Round one rookie.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
I love his quickness, his past rusher, some dress almost
some drills and stuff. Today it's just our team period.
He just flewid like it comes natural to him. And
as we progress in training camp with pads on, I
want to see, you know, everybody want to see stuff
with pads and everything. But he's just a natural, good
defensive tap all right, and it's just like the sky's

(39:43):
the limit form and I love, I'm happy I'm part
of the process to help him continue to improve.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
There you go, Dalvin Thomlinson. He also had one of
the quotes of the week. He said, you know, everyone
thinks in the d line room, we're so loaded now
it's like crabs in a bucket. Everyone just climbing over
each other, you know, every man for himself. He said, No,
not true. We're helping each other out.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I first of all, let me just say this, the
fact that Dalvin Tomlinson is an Arizona cardinal. In all
the news, all the reshaping of this roster, in this
depth chart of the off season, everything that has happened here,
I forget an awful lot of the time that Dalvin
Tomlinson is here.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Paul, you know what what Isaiah Adams say when we
asked him about oline d line drum and he said
the first name he mentioned, Dalvin still wasn't really That's
what he said. He said, just look at the guy,
and I'm wondering, what's that going to be all about?
When I have to square off against him.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
It's just amazing to me again that Dalvin Tomlinson is
an Arizona cardinal going forward and the expectation for this
defensive line. I just see a room and I'm thinking
to myself, what are all these guys doing sitting in
this room? The talent that is in that room looking
at each other, like start doing the math? All right,

(40:57):
while this guy's played five years in the NFL, this
guy's played six years, how are we going to distribute
all these reps? Okay, it's gonna be a free for
all in training camp ball.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
So do we need to look at each other and
pump the brakes because didn't we have sort of a
similar conversation last year not like this, Paul, Marvin Arison Junior,
Daris Robinson and then you know, not like this, Paul.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Okay, Marvin Harrison Junior was a total rookie, and I
broke my rule I did. I thought Marvin Arison Junior
was going to come in and be a wide receiver
one Paul. He had a really good year. He did,
but it wasn't to my I had this expectation that
was really ridiculous, and I still to this day reject
myself for doing that. Having said that, look at the

(41:40):
names of guys who have done things in the National
Football League that are in the defensive line room for
the Cardinals. I mean, these are guys who are proven commodities,
known commodities. Now we're gonna interject it with a bunch
of young gun talent.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
They are eight deep, a legit, eight deep in that
D line. So it might be crabs in a bucket
to a certain degree. But if the defensive front is
no longer a question mark, what is your biggest question
you want answered in Cardinals camp on the defensive side
of the ball.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I just want to know how they're going to distribute
the reps on that defensive line. So I really want
to know, you know what, Paully to me, Mike Backer, No,
I'm not the defensive line controls all of that. That's
the great thing about it. You want your corners to
be better. Get pressure on the opposed a quarterback, tro
get him into third and obvious pass situations because they're

(42:32):
shutting down the run on the defensive line. Go ahead
and do that. You want guys to be better, man,
And to me, right now, it's the defensive line. I
had an old coach. An old coach used to talk
about competition, and he used to say this right here,
fight it out, fight it out.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Surprise me.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Now once again, you know again he wasn't talking about
real fighting on the football field. He was talking about,
now you competing with everyone else in this room, go
ahead and fight it out. That'll determine who's going to play.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
So what's the verbiage for that? In twenty twenty five?
More friction? And JG elaborated on that a little bit
earlier today, saying it's one of the things we kind
of tweeked the players know this. We're going to have
a little more friction during camp in a safe way.
I want to get on the pads a little bit
and play football.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Oh okay, So where do you begin on that one?
Right there? Friction, that's physicality is what he's talking about.
To me, He's talking about physicality, and when you're going
to be physical, it immediately implies competition as well. Competition
and physicality in the game of football. Would you say
those two things go together, Paul, Yes, yes they do.

(43:51):
That's what I believe JG is talking about in terms
of the friction. But it's definitely about fighting it out
with the pets, not literally, just metaphorically.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
So let's think about that. If you review last season
in your head real quick. You lost the week three
game against a very physical Detroit team. Yes, you lost
the next week against Washington with all their first rounders
on the defensive front. You lost two games against Seattle
why stinking Leonard Williams, Big Cat Williams was very physical.
And then you went to Carolina and they ran for

(44:21):
two hundred and fifty plus yards because they had big
Rob Hunt and right guard, and they had Chewba Hubbard.
And so if you're assessing last year and trying to
get better this year, that is one big box you
have to check, because you know what, they could have
been more physical at times last year. It's part of
the rebuilt. It's part of the process. And now in

(44:42):
year three you are so much more equipped.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I love the fact you ended the show with a
media guide in your hand, maybe.

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