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March 27, 2025 • 45 mins

Ep. 709 - The Cardinals defense received a boost early in free agency with the addition of Philadelphia Eagles linebacker Josh Sweat. Eagles Insider Dave Spadaro joins Paul Calvisi to discuss what the Cardinals are getting in Sweat, his ability to do more than just rush the passer and how Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rallis guided Sweat to his highest sack output while the coaching duo was in Philly. Plus, Calvisi and Ron Wolfley mock the mock drafts and share their thoughts on who the Cardinals could end up selecting with the 16th overall pick.

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Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.
I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee it.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:02):
And know I was coaching up Craig Graylo and Danny
Surrech just the other day and I was telling them
Ron Wolfley, how in the NFL, it's really fitting that
the month of April, with the NFL Draft a month away,
it all starts with April fools one of your favorite
holidays because this time of year, I mean you, you

(01:25):
can't trust or believe anyone or anything. We've got rumors
and reports, we've got misinformation, we've got disinformation. It's all
flying everywhere, and you know what, We're going to cover
a lot of it and get to the bottom of it.
On this edition of The Big Red Rage, presented by
santan Ford and Gilbert we are santan Ford, Paul Calvic here,

(01:47):
Ron Wolfley there, and Dave Berdaro coming up are around
the corner Eagles Insider. We will get to that. Let
me tell you, Wolf, when you win the NFL title,
guess what other teams want to go ahead and knock
on your front door right and say, hey, can we
get some best practices. It's all about trying to learn

(02:07):
a few things. So we'll ask Dave Spadaro about, oh,
I don't know, the biggest name in free agency, Josh Sweat.
We'll get an inside skinner report on the Cardinals new
edge rusher. We'll also talk about what did Jalen Hurts
do to elevate his game from losing Super Bowl fifty
seven to winning Super Bowl fifty nine, and then we're
also going to get into all the draft prospects that

(02:29):
are out there. We'll do offense next, but let's get
rolling on defense here wolf. And by the way, did
you see there are a couple of brand new mock drafts.
We'll save Charles Davis for the offensive side. Bucky Brooks
three point zero. Walter Nolan defensive tackle out of Ole Miss.
How does that sound if that name is selected by

(02:51):
the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, Polly, you know what, I'm gonna be okay with that.
I'll be alright with it because we're talking about a
guy that is sticking his hand in the dirt, and
he is a guy that a lot of people have
compared to Aaron Donald. Now, he doesn't have the talent
that Aaron Donald has specifically, I would say, but to me,
that's what they project him as in terms of his

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frame and his ability, his feet and his strength and
the fact that he's under three hundred pounds Aaron Donald.
Aaron Donald could play the game at two hundred and
eighty eight pounds two hundred and eighty nine pounds and
yet hold up as a three technique because of his
incredible strength. I think Walter Nolan is the same kind

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of guy. Now is he going to play like Aaron Donald?
That's the big question mark right now. But you know what, Paully,
I don't mind it. Whenever a guy is mocked to
the Arizona Cardinals, that's sticking his hand in the dirt.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Do you know that? Walter Nolan himself at the Senior
Bowl said, when asked about his skill set, he described
and said quote, I'm the next Aaron Donald. I'm really younger,
upcoming version of Aaron Donald. And then on the NFL
network at the Combine they actually had a little video
club of Aaron Donald. Responded to that, wishing him well,

(04:09):
and he doubled down. Walter Nolan said, I wholeheartedly believe
I'm the next Aaron Donald. So okay, now most of
the sky reports do say he's explosive, he has a
high motor. Sure, you know he's definitely taller than Aaron Donald.
He's six'. Four aaron donalds what six?'?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
One?

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Remember YEAH? Remember D. Remember d jeffries on this very,
show said as, a rookie his first Game Against, aaron
donald they broke, the huddle he looked at him across
the line, of scrimmers said this, Guy's tiny i'm gonna,
smash him not. So much that is not exactly the way. It,
Happened anyway speaking to the combine and all the, draft
analysts Here Is Daniel Jeremiah cardinals. Cover two you can

(04:48):
Go to accardinals dot com wherever you gear podcasts and
check it, out yourself but here he is on the
twenty twenty five defensive tackle and.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
Edge classes defensive tackles as DEEP as i can, EVER
remember i don't ever remember seeing a group this d,
you know LAST year i had twelve PLAYERS that, i thought,
you know had starting potential at defensive tackle this year at,
twenty FOUR so i don't ever remember seeing anything. Like
that so it's not only there in the, first round
but out all throughout the draft you can find defensive
tackles that have an opportunity to develop into starters and

(05:15):
then ed, rusher wise we've, Got traits we've, got, long rangy,
explosive guys and then we've. Got production we've got some
guys who maybe don't have all, those traits, but man
they really know how to win. And rush SO but
i do know they're going to have an option Get
a day one starter at either defensive tackle or at,
ed rusher if that's the direction they want, To go.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
And right now they could play a game obviously with
what they have the Return Of blon Nichols And justin
Jones And darius robinson one hundred, percent healthy and Here
Comes josh sweat and all by, The Way, DALVIN. Tomlinson
lj collierre Re Signing. Dante stills, so well if it's,
i mean, on paper they're pretty loaded and pretty stouted.
Defensive line but if they think there's a guy at

(05:56):
sixteen who's a, difference maker who has a decade future in,
this league do You think mantias support would still pull.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The? TRIGGER yeah. I do i think, he would especially
with the BACKGROUND of Jg And nick rawlis, as well
when you think of where they came from With The
philadelphia eagles and just how Deep The philadelphia eagles defensive.
Line Was and i'm talking about not right, now specifically
but two years ago. As well you go back and look, at,

(06:23):
it man they were really really deep up front, of
course and so that makes me, think, that yeah you,
KNOW what jg would probably be really open, to that
and So Would. Nick rawlis there's a lot of three
techniques in this draft as well that are mocked to
go in the. FIRST round i would be really really
Okay With. WALTER nolan i would at. Number sixteen How

(06:47):
About kenneth grant at number sixteen, As well i'd be okay.
With That. DEREK harmon I Think derek harmon probably is
going to go Before The arizona cardinals are going. To pick,
But yeah i've got. No problem, once again if you
want to bring the most destructive force in the football
universe into a football team and into that, locker room,

(07:09):
you know get a.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Three technique so one thing that you have in common
right with that Mock Draft walter Nolan First TEAM, All
Sec James, pierce Junior First TEAM. All sec edge guy
Out a tennessee love him, sixty five two, forty five,
ridiculous athleticism ran a crazy forty been, really productive. High
motors so there's that, either way whether it's along the

(07:32):
defensive front. Or Beyond Here's, RHET Lewis Nfl network draft
Analyst on cardinals cover two, once again just talking about
the good Spot that cardinals are in to improve.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
The d it's a great spot to. Be, in yeah
you may not get like the super. High end You
Know mason Graham, from michigan or You Know jalen Walker.
From georgia but you could find a Player Like kenneth
Grant from michigan who played Next To. MASON graham i
think there's a great opportunity to build a bully up
front and to start right THERE at i think that'd
be a great opportunity to get another primetime type. OF player,

(08:03):
i mean you might even get a Player Like, mike
green who led fbs and Sacks from marshall seventeen. This
year there's just so much talent upfront on the.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Defensive line, IN fact i, would, say like let's say
a team wants to come up, to sixteen and it
doesn't mean you have to trade back. That, far, LIKE
oh i don't know a team without a quarterback, right
Now The pittsburgh steelers at. Twenty one if all of
a sudden a quarterback falls and it's sitting there, AT
sixteen I. Think maniasa ford easily could go back to
twenty one and still get a really good defensive lineman or.

(08:34):
Edge Guy torrett lewis's point, Right, there wolf because it
is so deep in.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
This, Draft, YEAH no I think you're right on, That.
One pauly it's going to be really interesting to see
What maniasen. Fork does you could convince me that he
might target, a guy an individual that they fall in,
love with where he might want to move up, six
spots or you could really convince me that he may
want to. Move down as deep as this, draft is

(09:01):
especially on that, front seven on, the edge and with
defensive linemen, as well he may want to. Move back
it's going to be really interesting to See what. Moni does.
FOR me i would be okay if they move BACK
because I Want, tyler BOOKER and i do Believe That
tyler booker is dropping down a lot of draft boards,

(09:21):
right Now although i've seen some guys mock. It Out,
bucky brooks as a matter, of fact was mocking him
number Fourteen Overall tyler booker because, he said it's not the,
tape measure. It's Tape tyler booker's going to play and
he's a, football. PLAYER period i love. That attitude most
guys that are analysts right now that are mocking out

(09:43):
the twenty twenty, five draft for the, most part it
comes Down To tyler booker being a, football player not
a guy who's going to go and work out.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
In shorts so much FOCUS on d line. And edge
what Are the cardinals doing right now for? Middle linebacker
do you think that's an under rated position they might
target in? This Draft maybe, day two, Day three but
do you think there's a middle linebacker coming For?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
The, Cardinals, YEAH pauli i really. Don't know, you know
we could, see THAT but i still hold out Hope
That kaiser white is going to Be An. Arizona cardinal
and the longer each day passes, to me the odds
actually go up that he might Be An arizona CARDINAL
because i believe they're trying to let the market establish.

Speaker 5 (10:28):
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(10:49):
today nfl. Dot com they Have the cardinals going line
and someone who could play guard but might be a.
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Speaker 4 (11:04):
With the fourth pick in the twenty TWENTY Four, nfl
Draft The arizona Cardinals Select marvin parrison junior.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Wide receiver, to day.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
How do you feel Not protecting kyler and now knowing
who he's?

Speaker 8 (11:21):
Throwing to you KNOW what?

Speaker 9 (11:22):
I mean you have a quarterback that nobody, can touch
and now you have a receiver that can't. BE guarded
i mean as a as. A tackle, i mean how
can you not want to block? FOR that i Know
if i've blocked my mail, long enough first, downs Only
so i'm excited. About that That.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Was Paris johnson junior on stage At the cardinals, draft
party and at That moment wolf the money question was
actually asked by the Owner Of. Michael, bidwell okay he
got the best SoundBite Out, of PARIS? Wasn't pauli pencilneck
over here Is Actually michael and that was. Good stuff
former teammates Together At ohio, state obviously and once Again

(11:59):
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wolf is going to continue to build from the. Inside
out That Said charles davis two POINT zero Nfl dot
Com and i'm seeing this name with more frequency now number.
Sixteen Overall The airzona Cardinals Select Kelvin. Banks junior they

(12:41):
tackle a Lot of texas First Team. All american he
has been a blue chip prospect the moment he Went
to texas six' five three point fifteen and he's a
guy known for. Playing power football but, maybe more importantly
the thinking is you move him inside to guard like
this coming year it could be, potently a starter and
then move out to Right Tackle after jonah williams contract

(13:05):
runs out And Him And paris johnson junior could be
bookend tackles for. The, next decade, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
You know that's the One Thing About calvin BANKS junior
that i really really do enjoy is the fact that
he could play inside or he. Could play outside he,
could DO either or i don't think he necessarily could
Say That. About tyler booker And Even though tyler booker
ran a five THREE eights and i know how bad
that was and how he tested how bad it, WENT
for him I Do love tyler booker, as a mauler

(13:33):
as a guy who's just gonna get, on, the inside
lineup put his hand into the dirt and. Just destroy
Somebody That is tyler. Booker To me calvin banks has
a lot more. Versatility TO him and i love the, idea, of,
saying hey, yeah you know Once You draft, calvin banks
junior you. Bring him in, he's six' five he's got,
good size to him three. Hundred and fifteen pounds he,

(13:56):
ran really really well but you. Can actually play him
start him, on to that, Guard, as you said, pauli
and then boom kick him outside To Right tackle when.
Jonah williams, is gone you.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Know it's interesting We Were talking about tyler Booker Last
Week In the big red rage and got a Text
Mid show from lorenzo alexander, himself and he, said you
know what don't pay attention. To the forty time what
you need to pay attention to in that case is
whether the guy is out. Of shape or not, if he's.
In shape it's fine if, he's out of shape if
the forty is an indication, he's out of shape that's
where potentially. Could be a problem but nobody Has Lost.

(14:28):
That About Tyler booker Here's Trevor Sigama Right pro Football
focus draft analyst cardinals Cover two from the combine all right,
a few weeks ago and He Was asked by Craig
Riolo and our Danny sirek about the cardinals looking at
THAT twenty twenty five o line class. In the upcoming draft.

Speaker 10 (14:47):
It's very intriguing because there's a lot of players that
played tackle in college who will probably kick into guard
OR center, At the nfl level and you could sometimes
look at that as like a little, bit of A
negative but instead i think think it's just a lot
of players who have. A lot of versatility? So are
They You, is it Joe Walt? Is it Rayseeon Slater? Is,
it trisian, wurz okay maybe not but it's a lot

(15:07):
of players who you still need a great. Starting FIVE
out there and i still think there's a lot of
tackles that are those hybrid players that can give. You
those starting Positions, so for the cardinals if they wanted
to upgrade at the tackle spots or if they felt
like they needed a, starter along the interior they might
have the ability to draft that type of a player.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
In the first, round and, once again TO me if
the d line edge, class is so deep maybe that
means It's more likely the cardinals wait to round two
and number forty seven overall to target that. Side of
the line, and it's sixteen, wolf are we, thinking you
know what if you, want a premier guard you. Can
start day one you're gonna have to. Grab, him, Round one.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah no i'm. With You, on that, BUT paulo once again, i,
Do Believe that unfortunately. TYLER booker is falling. I. DO
believe this now i talk about, this all the time,
but IT'S a fact and i don't think. IT'S going
to change i believe he could, go around twenty three could.
GO around twenty Five I don't think tyler booker is
going to fall out of the first round and. GO

(16:06):
into the second i don't think that's going. To be
the case and if, that, is a fact man when
Did It seem like manti assin for it to maybe
trade back and. Collect, some more picks still Get A,
guy like tyler Booker A guy the arizona cardinals really
neat an interior offensive lineman, who in my opinion in
terms of the, bass guard coming out he's the bass

(16:30):
guard coming. Out of college period when, You Watch the
tape tyler. Booker is a mauler, so you know what
if you could move back and get a guy like, that,
And collect picks man i'd. Be all over that.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
And if he goes Like. Number thirteen in Miami There's
also a Gray Zabel Out. OF north Dakota State i
know daniel jeremiah three point zero as Him coming to
the cardinals at sixteen overall six six three twelve with
room to put on. Body MASS and strength still i
mean he plays. With a now streak so these Are
all traits the.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Cardinals, Really, Good, fee too paul yep.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
They this is the Sort of. Player. The cardinals covet
now as for offensive positions that stand out, in This Draft,
CLASS Here's Matt miller espn Draft analysts once again cardinals cover.
TWO and his thoughts i love.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
THIS running back class i think we have a shot
to have the record for most running backs drafted in.
A seven round draft thirty in twenty. SEVENTEEN was the
record i think we got a. Shot to break that
the tight end group is really. Good, at the top
now there's not a ton of like late round depth in,
the tight end group but there's six or seven guys
who are going to BE starters in the, nfl pretty
early on at least at least as a tight end two.

(17:36):
Early in their careers so those two. POSITIONS really stand
out i would take A swing on a day three,
running back this year and maybe, LIKE every other year
i would probably do that just because you need to
keep churning the. Roster, at that position.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Okay speaking of a, Day three running back i'm going
to ask the question that a lot Of fans in
the valley, Are, Wondering Right now well Cam scataboo be
available Day Three. For The, Arizona cardinals ron, wolfley.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Oh my gosh, pay, HONESTLY right now no i. Don't
see THAT happening the reason i don't see it Happening Is,
because of, james Connor Of course and trey benson backing
him up being a more of a. Third down type
guy but if you tell me that he's there in
the sixth, round AND seventh round. WHICH i don't believe

(18:22):
i think he's. GOING to go higher i think he's, Going.
To go higher PAULINE the reason why i think he's
going to go higher is because the pendulum has swung.
Back To the middle running backs. Once again are Valued Are?
They not sakwan Berkley Are they not philadelphia eagles Who Just?
Won The super bowl running backs are, in vogue once again,

(18:43):
AND because of That i think camp scataboo is going
to go. BEFORE the fourth, round.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
I Tell you if the cardinals want to see, a
lot of jerseys They. WOULD take, camp scataboo i mean
he's going to move. A lot of jerseys he is really.
Popular In this town. But i'm with. You they're so
Loaded They, just, gave james yeah Yeah They just gave
james conner. A Two, year extension trey benson he could
easily be a breakout player of. This roster this Year
they Like. A mari de murcado i just don't see

(19:10):
a place or. A, ROLE for him hence i don't
think they're going to spend the. Draft capitol on? Him what,
About receiver. You Know it's interesting chad reeder has a
four round mock up there IN round Two, In Nfl,
dot com jalen knowle Wide Receiver, out of iowa state
the kid who ran a four to three nine forty
and he Was Also First team all big twelve in
terms of. Being a return man and there are a

(19:32):
number of mock Drafts that have the cardinals going receiver.
Even in round one can you see? THAT, as a,
POSSIBILITY i YOU.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Know i don't i know that that there's a lot
of people Who Look at the arizona cardinals, skill and
they say what is the one? Thing, they really do,
well you know what they do need a guy that's running.
A four to three they do need a guy that
you can line up and. Take the top off they
do need. THAT type of guy i just don't think

(20:01):
they need them as much as. They NEED other stuff
and i know you don't want, to draft ON need
but can i JUST tell you every gm will always
say that we're never. Gonna draft on need we're gonna we're, not,
Gonna do THAT right but can i tell you right
now that it seems like every year that's what we see,
most general managers do especially. High in the draft if,

(20:24):
you need a quarterback you're going, To draft a quarterback
and if you, need a wide receiver you're going to.
DRAFT a wide receiver i know they love to pretend
like we're not going. To draft for need yet it's
funny when you look at the needs going into a
draft and what, a general manager does and typically it
fits a need they have on their team. When they draft,

(20:47):
HIGH so to me i just DON'T see it Because
i think the cardinals have all the. Skill that they
need what they need is.

Speaker 11 (20:54):
To.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Protect their quarterback yeah if you Told Me there's a
john brown out there somewhere in, three or round four
and you got an absolute burner to add, TO this
receiver room i think that would make. A lot of
sense i just don't see. It, in, ROUND one yeah.
Exactly i don't see but to your, point, ABOUT needing
speed yes i just don't think it's that urgent or they.

(21:17):
Consider it that valuable you know what about potentially a
free agent. Receiver Still out there stefan. Diggs has a
Home now we know cooper cup Got, ridiculous money in
seattle there's still a lot of reports. AND Speculation Out
there a Mari Cooper. To the arizona cardinals that would
be intriguing because there. Is a Legit debate do the
cardinals have wide receiver? Two on. This, roster we'll see

(21:43):
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daves badaro Next On the big red rage first and

(22:03):
ten up At the forty Six.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Prescott under center bush this time play action.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
And the passes intercepted he let. A coon has Intercepted
Picks off by josh what Fifteen ten? Foot touchdown josh
foot What To. Play by josh schwitz now the end.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Drives to block him he Sheds the end dat prescott
wants to dropped.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
The ball over his head to The tight hand and
sweat takes it away and takes it in for a
touchdowns up pick six by the big man.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
COMING off the edge a couple legendary Voices Right There And,
Eagles Nation Merril reese mike quick as we are joined
by another voice who's a part of the FABRIC part
Of the. Dna Of eagles coverage dave spadero Joining Us
On the big Red rage Presented by San Tan ford
And gilbert Paul. Calvic here. And dave we appreciate how's

(22:59):
the how's? The off season going? Have You recovered yet
and i'm Gonna ask you about i'm going to Ask
You about? The super, bowl parade first off did you
dodge any and? All rogue beer cans?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Are?

Speaker 5 (23:08):
You all, Good Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Sure did thanks paul an amazing day, And A great,
celebration and i've, recovered but you, Know in my. Mind
i'm still celebrating it's something that you don't just FILE
away because the, nfl combine is starting or because. Free
agency has begun it's something that you cherish as. Long,
AS you.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
Can, Yeah i bet LOOK i've hosted. My shareff fan
events but when you help mc a parade where there
was an estimated one million, plus fans where attended and
you get up to the podium and you look out
and It's like It's like COACHELLA or lallapalooza, or I
Don't know maybe woodstock, for our older? Listeners what's that
like is that an adrenaline. Rush like.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
No other, It's amazing the fans it's packed people as far.
As you can see it's a bit weird because you're
the fans are so far away that you, can't hear
anything saying you can't hear any. Reaction that they have,
AND then, on stage i mean the players they. Were
pretty tuned up they were ready to go and. Have

(24:07):
a good time so it was, a bit of chaos
but it was the kind of, chaos we lived for
and that's that's why. We're in the business and it
was just it. Was an incredible day and for a
football franchise that had not won for fifty one years
to come and win it and sit year fifty two
and then seven seasons, later is.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
Pretty Remarkable no doubt daves spadero Filled all At the
eagles dot com, Our guests all right cardinals filled their
biggest need with arguably the biggest, Name And. Free agency
josh sweat what Do You, know about Josh sweat the
longtime eagle That people here in arizona? Will, SOON find,
OUT yeah I mean i love josh.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
AND a, Great story i mean i'm sure you've guys
all done the research of what a fantastic high, school
player he was and the injury that he, suffered in
High School, went to, florida state you know kind of
dragged his leg around there for. A couple of Seasons But,
as a, philadelphia eagle, very reliable, very versatile tough guy,

(25:05):
plays the, run well long. Arms good get off He Will.
Help The arizona cardinals jonathan gannon Knows How. To use
josh sweat he was part of that team in twenty
twenty TWO that led. The nfl In sacks and just
josh Is just and For Josh made the, pro bowl
that year and just he's just a really really. Solid
good football player he will not make mistakes and he will. Not,

(25:29):
be out, TOUGH.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Yeah you know i met asked him about being the
number one high school recruit going. Into his senior year
he made a joke about if only nil money was
a thing back, back in the. Day which was solid
but he calls. Himself a football player is he a? Legit?
Three down.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Player yeah he is he was Here and you know,
eagles have some. DEPTHS so, they, rotate i mean look
ideally you would like to. Rotate your defensive lineman but he.
Can play three downs he has shown. That in the
past he, plays the run well, sets the edge nicely and.
Is VERY technically, sound, so i mean again you would

(26:04):
like to. Have some depth there you want to throw
as many fastballs at the offensive, line As you can
but josh is very capable of doing. That if need
be and.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
You mentioned how he had his two Breakout Years playing
Under Jonathan gannon And Nick rallis right pro bowl in
twenty one career high eleven. Sacks and twenty two what
was it they did to sort of get The? Best out,
of josh he mentioned just sort of in a general
way THAT he Knows that jg and rawless will play.
Him the RIGHT way. That's what i want that was his.

(26:32):
Quote At the presser and i'm curious what do you think.
HE means by that.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
I mean, they moved him, around they rotated him, they
created great matchups they gave him some time. To catch,
HIS breath so yeah, i, think that ideally again You
want to give josh a bit OF a, break some
i mean fifty five sixty snaps a. Game is a

(26:58):
lot he has not, had knock on wood any, problems
with that knee but it is certainly something that is,
part of his, past And you know the eagle success
has been largely attributed to there for years and years
and years philosophy of addressing. The line of scrimmage and

(27:21):
so they never go into a season, with one pass,
rusher two pass rusher three for. They bring the house
they want to rotate. And keep, guys rush and look
we saw The, very best of josh and you might
see The very best of jush. That we haven't Seen
But in the super bowl. He was absolutely Dominant We
know that kansas city had, no ANSWERS for him But
i think ideally josh would get a little bit of,

(27:44):
a rotation work there just to keep HIM as fresh
and smi fast and. Powerful off the ball.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
It's interesting Because He cited The Super bowl where vic fangio,
just let him Go Just, get after patrick mahomes which
he said Was similar to what jonathan gave and did
in twenty. One and twenty two so it sounds like
he's looking forward to that being. USED in, THAT way.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I agree I agree I think I think nick and
jj will have a really good menu of plays, and objectives,
and certainly you Know. Positional play, for josh and Look
if you're expecting josh to come in there. And do
it all that's no no defensive lineman's going to be.

(28:28):
Able to do that so there's got to be help
up and down. THE line OF scrimmage i know jg will,
blitz here and there. But NOT a lot nick i
think is of that of. That mindset as well so
He Wants to see josh sweat win one on one
battles and he will Do That. For The, Arizona cardinals.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
Dave sperero Eagles, insider filledalthieagles dot com as our Guest
Here On. The big red rage, AT the same Time I.
Did ask josh sweat we had him in studio here
about Playing on. A loaded, eagles defense you, know in
the narrative, the noise out there when you have so
many players that, command so much attention it can free up,
other guys to shine sort of the rising tide. That
lifts all boats, and his answer was we did a

(29:06):
lot to sacrifice for each other, and because of that
none of our, numbers were extremely high but that's why
we were, the NUMBER one defense and i led. The
team in sacks so he sort of flecks. Out a
little bit but give me. Your thoughts on that just the,
defense that's so loaded can it be tough to get
an assessment on an individual player and maybe if they. Still, Have,
upside left yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Well one of The themes of the eagle twenty twenty
four season was we cannot be great without. The greatness
of others and it is. Everybody knows their role everybody
is a. Star in their role and it, takes an
entire roster and we KNOW that in the nfl it's
way more than the. Fifty three man roster now. There's
the practice squad you're gonna get guys hurt through the

(29:47):
course of. A seventeen game season. It is, A marathon,
so yeah i mean look The numbers that the eagles.
PUT up, Individually Upfront i mean jalen carter could not
have been a. More dominant defensive tackle yet when you look,
purely at his numbers they don't really jump off. The
page at, you but trust me THERE was nobody. THAT i,

(30:10):
HAD seen i mean i don't even want to go
back To The, days of reggie white but a long
long time that really really Took Over games as jalen,
Carter does and did and so it. Is A collective
effort and i think that that Is the. Mindset that,
josh has but again If You are judging josh sweat
on the number of quarterback sacks that he, brings to

(30:31):
the table you're missing out on the other parts of
his game.

Speaker 12 (30:34):
That he.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Does well, the consistency you know the, clip that you
Played The interception of dak prescott in the return Was
a play. Where josh read It josh read what dak,
was going to do, started his pass, rush dropped into,
coverage made the interception and then showed his athletic ability
to get. To the end zone that's the kind. Of
player he is he's not going in there just to rack.

(30:58):
Up the sack numbers he's going in there win football
games and be part.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Of a, great defense YOU know One Thing, I, Think
Jonathan annon monti austin ford Have In common with howie
roseman is they want to build. From the, inside out
you know it's. A big man's game they want to.
Dominate in the trenches how Long did it take philly
to a mass that's sort of town on both. Sides
OF the line because i Also Saw during the super
Bowl RUN that, the philly o line every single guy
Up There got. An all pro vote what sort of

(31:24):
process was that to get that. DOMINANT in, the trenches
i mean it happens over.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
A matter of time eagles have really done very. Well
with the draft but when You, LOOK at The Eagles
i mean lane johnson offensive, line drafted, Twenty Thirteen right
tackle jordan malatta left tackle taken, in a seventh round
never played. The game of football eagles get extraordinary success
from a Player, who came from australia who was, drafted

(31:48):
in twenty eighteen And Then since then cam, Jurgen's Twenty
twenty one landon. DICKERSON twenty twenty two. I believe you
know so it takes time And you Know These i'm
m kai, Bectono off free, Agency Layton free agency tyler
steena backup comes in the draft a. Couple of years
ago so it takes time. To build the front but

(32:08):
if you hit, it in the draft and if you
devote your attention to it and you add in other
ways and just add a lot of really good solid players,
the way they gel it. Can happen very quickly So You,
for the arizona cardinals with the dynamic play you Have At,
quarterback with kyler murray with the weapons, you have, on
offense you know it's not going to take much to

(32:30):
get that. Offense over the, HUMP and then defensively i
think there's a lot of pieces. In place already There
certainly when The eagles saw the cardinals late, in twenty
twenty three that defense. Was, ALREADY very, GOOD so i
Mean i think the cardinals are. On The Right track
and josh sweat is the kind of guy you want
to sign in free agency because there's still a lot
MORE left. In his nfl career he's going To. Have

(32:51):
Success In Arizona.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Daves spadero eagles Insider Here On the big Red Rage
presented By santan ford and. Gilbert speaking a quarterback not
many qbs with dual Threat Skill sets Like Jalen. Hurts
and Kyler Murray where has jalen, hurts elevated his Game
Especially from losing super bowl fifty Seven To just winning. Super,
BOWL fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah i mean early in this, twenty twenty four season
he had problems, turning the football over maybe trying. TO
do too much a little bit. Of a philosophy change
eagles became a little. Bit more run oriented defenses geared
Their Schemes to stopping saquon barkley. Did not have success
AND Then in, the nfc, Championship game you know washington

(33:33):
was Just prime to stop saquon and they left a
lot of one on one Battles Out there AGAINST Devonte
smith And Aj brown and jalen hurts exploited that and.
Had a great Game And, then The super bowl the chiefs.
Did the same thing they were Not Going to let,
Saquon barkley beat them so It was time for jalen
to take. Over the football game but it really comes
down to not trying, to do too much don't, turn

(33:56):
the football over, rely on other weapons and in big.
Games and big, moments in big games you have to
be at your best and you have, to make great
decisions and you. Have To, be selfless, and jalen you
know for all of the, critics that he has which,
IS shocking, to me i mean look at, the guys win.
Percentage it's just extraordinary he's had great success as a

(34:17):
quarterback at every. Level in his career so but a
lot of, it comes, down to you know not trying,
to do too much do not, turn the football over. Live,
for another down look.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
All we KNOW is the entire nfl Now Is. Chasing
the philadelphia eagles so if the offseason, is about best
practices well maybe we did a little of That Here
Talking with Dave bererro Eagles. Insider, philldealthieagles dot com. Dave
we appreciate it we'll let you get back to all
the all, the mock drafts now and We know this
cards eagles won't play, in the regular season but maybe

(34:47):
just maybe in the postseason because the networks love the
storylines in the angles and There'd Be ton Between Jonathan, gannon, and,
nick sirianni.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right YEAH no doubt and i, think that you know
everybody Recognizes The job that jonathan gannon, is doing out
there the building that's Going. On with the cardinals definitely
a team to be reckoned, with in. A tough tough
division but there's certainly some change there with What's. Happened
WITH the niners, And i don't know seattle a better
football team than they were. In TWENTY twenty four So

(35:14):
i think the cardinals. Are on, the Rise and look
the eagles understand how quickly FORTUNES. Change in the nfl
after the twenty seventeen season When They. Won the super
bowl you know they, went to the playoffs but they really.
Weren't the same team so it is very difficult as
we've Seem to be the king to be the team.
That's looking To repeat and the, eagles have understood that

(35:35):
and they've really been. Aggressive in this offseason and they've
got a bunch of draft picks HERE these, next two
nfl drafts so they hope to build. For THE long
haul And i think the cardinals. Have the same approach
dave appreciated all the.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Best with, the draft.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Thank, guy you too.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Okay there you Go We Continue the big red Rage
presented By santan ford and gilbert.

Speaker 12 (35:55):
Back.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Right, After This.

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Ah yes ddrian taylor demison simply earned in the, wild
as a rabbit coaches players and fanatics everywhere in awe
as the rabbit stalks his prey while doing battle upon.
THE grid iron adversaries cowi in fear while the rabbit displays.

(36:24):
A fest, for blood metaphorically speaking the rabbit has been
known to take advantage of unsuspecting quarterbacks frolicking. About the
NFL's grasslands beware.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
OF the rabbit.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Wolf i think you got a shout out In There
From the Great Frank Calando doing Sir David attenborough of
planet earth. Fame on the passpod he threw in a wolflysm.
There mid mid. Impersonation, so not.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Bad yeah not bad.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Paul Always, HIGHLY entertaining frank, caliendo I love it and,
i tell you what it's sort of, Apropos as we
say Welcome Back Into, the big red Rage presented By
santan ford and gilbert and Once Again, Special Thanks. Dave
spadero eagles Insider We got into josh sweat and who
really enjoys a good edge rusher and affecting the quarterback the,
defensive BACKS of course and i, Mean For, My Money.

(37:19):
Dadrian taylor demerson wolf by the, time the, season ended
you know just talking to him a little bit, in
the locker, room said how different how radically different this
scheme was FROM. College to the nfl but by the, End,
of the year man you could see some of the
explosive physical plays he's capable of making as a. Seek, And,
destroy safety correct.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah you know it's so, Odd, about it though bali
it's not like he is a Prototypical Safety In. The
national football league he tends To Be more like buddha budha' is. Not,
PROTOTYPICAL at all now i Know, he's bigger than buddha
but it's still a situation where he doesn't have the
kind of size or height or length that you. Would,

(38:00):
think is ideal now he's, a great football player that
is the. Great thing About It. You got taylor demerson
you got this guy that is. Going, to get better
man have we seen this over and Over and over
again manti asen for drafting a rookie and then all
of a sudden, By, his second year boy that guy
typically takes a. Big step going forward we have seen

(38:23):
this now with, his first draft class and we can
also expect to see it next year as well as
those rookies from twenty twenty four move. Into twenty twenty five,
for the most part. In Their second year taylor demerson
is going to be. One of those, Guys, and to
me polly this is a guy that is going to
force himself. Onto the football field they have to find

(38:45):
a way to get him. Reps on, the.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Field in fact Here's The defensive coordinator nick ross late
in the air on what excites Him. The most about rabbit.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
He Fits the, criteria to puy here which, is motor
and violence. And he's extremely smart he works hard so
that you know he's gonna build down and he's gonna
continue to get. Better as a player, but he flies,
around he hits people, he caps things. OFF he plays
away i want. Defense players to, play.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
And you're thinking. Okay wait a minute safety isn't exactly
a position group they're going to. Target, in this draft
well let me just. Throw This out there jalen THOMPSON
and they love jt and he fits the same criteria the.
Nick rosis just cited but he has the third highest
cap number on this team and no guaranteed. Money coming
his way so could there be a cap? Casualty at
Some point and, considering rabbit needs reps he needs to,

(39:33):
SEE the playing field i just wonder if that's still
the business of. Football, yet, to come.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well, Yeah, you know what paul if there's, definitely some
credence there there's. NO doubt about it i Would just
say that I'LL believe that when. I Actually, SEE it
jalen thompson i still think is a, very good football.
Player A good Safety Buddha, baker and jalen thompson and
Now You Could have Dadrian Taylor dummerson. And joey blunt

(39:58):
Too Don't forget About Joey blun and joey blunt is.
Another guy plays safety he's got, a lot of size
he's got. A lot of length he's an. Excellent open
field tackler it's one of the reasons why he's. So
good in transition one of the best things about him
is how good of a special, teams player he is
and it's one of the reasons why HE continues. To
make nfl rosters we'll.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Know a lot, MORE after the draft, i surmise right
now it is the. Height of the offseason that means
you GET Things like the nflpa, golf tournament This. Week
okay in mexico and here's. A twosome For You how
About Buddha Baker And, is caddy jamis winston, the very
personable One and now the giants backup quarterback out In. The, Course,

(40:41):
with BUDDHA.

Speaker 12 (40:42):
Hey buddha can i cat it? For you right Quick
would you trust jamis?

Speaker 9 (40:47):
To caddy, FOR you you know i would trust them
in an.

Speaker 10 (40:51):
Opposite type, of way you know if he tells, Me
to go left.

Speaker 12 (40:53):
I'm gonna go right what the thing is you're telling
yourself when you about, to hit it all.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
Hitt my head Down, Low, man wins.

Speaker 12 (40:59):
Well buddha we know you. ALWAYS the low man i
think your genetics had something. To do with that you
will find that. BOUT in the hole i wouldn't go all,
The way back though buddham get. SOME height on it, I,
did teach him okay. So you just watch you will
see if you know how. To, apply, the, Information hi.

(41:19):
Sit sit it's okay. LET me get. One, I show
y'all look i'm A Putt. Keene like tiger woods he was.
Really my third cousin but when him and, his WIFE
split up like I. Lost something, to, LENEY good, job
all i. Guys Good job brothers jameis.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Winston always killing. IT oh my goodness i mean you
just Put A mic on jamis winston. And roll the camera.
It's just great content Content Is. King and jameis winston
h you know. He likes to w he's always a w.
When he's on Camera think about the giants quarterback room
Night right now wolf after This Week, You Got russell
Wilson Jameis, Winston And. Tommy cutlets tommy DeVito so a

(41:58):
lot of. Personality in that, Room By the way russell
wilson After signing with the giants saying he quote expects,
to be the, STARTER and he says i think this
team is looking for someone to lead. Them In Every,
way so russell wilson would are YOU buying that or i?
Mean there are you are you? Think HE'S the, guy,
Ram pauli yeah no i'm buying. That One Hundred Percent

(42:19):
the New York giants signed russell wilson to. Be Their
starting quarterback jamis winston is going to be their backup,
Now and now again i'm just looking at it. FROM
the outside In I. Look at jamis winson he signed
a what was, it a two year, eight Million Dollar
contract where russell wilson he signed a two year twenty
one million dollar contract or one year twenty, one million

(42:43):
dollar contract and ten point five. Of that is, Guaranteed
So to me russell wilson's going to get every opportunity
to go out there and show them that he's not.
Their quarterback going, forward by the, way Speaking Of Quarterbacks
cam ward shador sanders both have private workouts Scheduled this Week.
With tennessee and Cleveland that's after cam ward. Had his

(43:05):
pro day DO you see the nfl dot, Com tweet
out there wolf Where it was cam ward oh my
with a fire emoji in all caps as he rolled
out on air and then launched a, ball surfaced air
missile a perfect spiral some forty yards in the air and.
Right on The money so cam ward. Crushing his pro
day and then during, the course of it he Actually

(43:26):
Turned to the tennessee titans brass because they traveled like
a dozen people, for this pro day And he told them.
I'm solidifying it today AND Then he, TOLD nfl network
afterwards i made. Sure they heard that so in his
mind he has solidified himself as the number one. Pick, in,
the draft.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, well There you go cam, and you know, WHAT
for your kids, i hope you're, RIGHT your future kids.
I HOPE you're right can, i just say too this
is and, YOU already said it pauli. At the very
top there is misinformation. And there is disinformation this is
the time of year where disinformation kicks. Into overdrive right

(44:05):
now so many stories are leaked by general managers and
organizations that want certain narratives to be out there about certain,
players for whatever reason just knowing that they can impact
a team's draft status or a player's. Draft status as well,

(44:25):
They can impact that Pauly in a negative.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
NO doubt, they can i mean there is absolutely. No doubt,
about that in fact it was also interesting to note
that there was a breakout candidate. LIST post free agency
jj McCarthy speaking of quarterbacks number one Justin. Fields of
the jets Number, TWO for the Cardinals I, Would Go,
Isaiah Adams trey benson baron. Browning in that order for breakout,

(44:54):
candidates twenty twenty five We'll See, Special thanks Dave Badaro.
Eagles in Great stuff Special Thanks, Executive producer Jim Amhandro,
Associate producer Cody Fincher, Technical Director. EVAN reiser Farron Wolfley.
I am paul calvicy This Has Been the big red
Rage presented By. Santan ford and Gilbert. We are santan ford.

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