April 3, 2025 • 45 mins
Ep. 710 - The vibes are immaculate at Cardinals HQ after a week filled with breaking news. On Tuesday, longtime fan-favorite Calais Campbell agreed to terms to return to Arizona for his 18th NFL season. Then on Thursday, Pro Bowl tight end Trey McBride agreed to a four-year extension that ties him to the Cardinals through the 2029 season. Former Cardinals defensive lineman Frostee Rucker joined Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to talk about Calais' return to the Bird Gang and marvels at how Campbell continues to beat Father Time. Plus, Calvisi and Wolf discuss the hard-earned extension received by McBride and how he can still take his game to another level.
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You know what, who cares what happened in the stock
market today or stay since COVID, because you know what,
there was at least one man, at least one Arizona
Cardinal who made a lot of money today hashtag Trey
Mick paid. In fact, we're here on the Big Red
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Ford to take your mind off your four oh one
k and talk a little football. Paul calvic Ron Wolfley Wolf.
We've got a big man signing. We've got the biggest
tight end contract in NFL history. We've got a big
time guest and former Cardinals d lineman Frosty Rucker.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
But we'll start with.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
A big headline from earlier today because not much news
can trump the big man Kalais Campbell signing on the
line that has dotted, I mean returning to the Arizona Cardinals.
But we got it late this afternoon. Tight end Trey
McBride a four year extension through the twenty twenty nine season.
He is now the highest paid tight in on an
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average annual basis in NFL history. How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's huge, Paully, Are you gonna do it? Are you
gonna do the big big bag? Are you gonna do it?
Speaker 8 (02:10):
Nil?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, because it is a big deal today is a
big deal for the Arizona Cardinals. A couple of moves
that we're going to get into, of course, with Trey McBride,
the stud tight end that he is, This is this
signing happened? Because he is a true stud tight end.
He's a y tight end. He's a guy you can
line up on the tackles hip and you can run
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the ball behind him. Because Trey McBride has worked super
hard to become a very good blocking tight end in
the NFL. He's very very close with George Kittle, of course,
and Kittle I think has had a big impact on
Trey McBride. I'm just really really encouraged for this young
guy because Paulie, when you can go eleven personnel, and
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I've said this to you before, but it's the truth
and it bears repeating, when you can line up with
three hysid receivers, a tight end and a running back
eleven personnel on first and ten second and one to
six and run down situation. When you can do that
and run the ball and stay balanced as an offense,
not just throw the ball with three wide receivers out there,
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but run the ball and run it in a physical
kind of way north south, attacking the line of scrimmage.
When you can actually do that as an offense, you've
got a big advantage if you can actually remain balanced,
just like the forty nine ers were doing when they
were super good a couple of years ago. They could
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go eleven personnel and they did it often, and it
was very difficult to stop them. I'm wondering if we
might see the same evolution with the Cardinals here in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
You know, that's a good point. That's a good name
drop on George Kittle. In fact, when Drey McBride goes
to tight end you this year, right, he's gonna have
to pick up a few dinner checks. I'm just saying
that right here, right now. I mean, he he sets
the tight end market. Four years, seventy six million dollar extension,
forty three million guaranteed is average annual salary about nineteen
million per under contract through twenty twenty nine. And maybe
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here's the best part. Wolf he's twenty five. He doesn't
turn twenty six until November. I mean, he's got the
best hands on the team. He has serious upsides still,
And that's not just us. That is Kyler Murray, who
was asked late in the season, right early January, about
Trey McBride and his future.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, he can be which is you know, it's saying
a lot, you know, He's a beast. He's a beef.
I'll say I'll say it every time. I think he's
the best in the league. And he'll only continue to
get better as we get better together.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And that was a question, can he get better? And
it was an absolute definitive yes from Kyler Murray. And
you agree immediately with Kyler. I mean you see it.
You saw him get better over the course of the year,
did you not.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, No, there's no doubt about it, PAULI, Yeah, I
totally agree with what Kyler is saying right there. What's
really cool. He is the highest paid tight end in
the National Football League right now. And as soon as
you say that, you have to think of George Kittle. Yep,
you have to think of Kittle and I compare and
contrast those two guys, because you can stop and think
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about that for a minute, just the fact that Trey McBride,
even before he signed this contract, you could compare and
contrast George Kittle and Trey McBride. And when you do
that comparison, and we've talked a little bit about it
in the past, paually, but I think George Kittle is
still a little bit better of a run blocker than
Trey McBride agreed, And I think that Trey McBride is,
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believe it or not a little bit better route runner
and receiver than George Kittle to me. And that kind
of makes it a little bit of a wash right there,
because I also think this, and this is what's fascinating.
George Kittle redefined how a tight end was supposed to
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run the ball after the catch. George Kittle did that.
You watch you look at him, go back and look
at his highlight tape, Polly, George Kittle after he gets
the ball in his hand, runs like a madman. Guess what,
Trey McBride might be better than Kittle and running after
the catch. That's saying an awful lot.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
And you know what, that record he set most receptions
by a tight end in their first three seasons in
NFL history. He broke George Kittle's record. So think about
this as well. You go, he only had twenty nine
catches as a rookie. He didn't really get significant playing time.
It wasn't a primary target till the zach Ertz injury
midway through his second year. So he has two hundred
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and twenty one career receptions and basically a season and
a half for all intents and purposes. Last year a
buck eleven in terms of receptions, which by the way,
more catches than Larry Fitzgerald ever, had fourth best tight
end reception season ever. He had the two receiving touchdowns
at the very end, had a rushing Touchdow had a
fumble recovery touchdown. I had him for four hurdles. I
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don't know if it was three or four, but he
had four ridiculous hurdles. So there's all that, And we're
going to get into more of Trey McBride a little
bit later. We know he's smiling, Wolf. I think you've
been smiling all week, just like me when the news
broke man that Coaleuis Campbell is returning to the Arizona Cardinals.
And just to set things in perspective here, especially on
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The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert
Let's Flashback Our, jim O Mahundra went into his extensive archives.
This is his final show after the twenty sixteen season.
It wasn't official yet, but we asked him, what if
if this is indeed your last show? If this is
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indeed your last show, and this is your last season
as an Arizona Cardinal. I mean, you'd like to say
to the Red Sea.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Well, I appreciate the love, you know, and I understand.
You know, you guys really want to be back, you know,
and I really want to be back. You know, It's
been unbelievable Riot. The last nine ers have been amazing,
and I'm really I've been blessed. I played a game
I love at a high level and I've been dreaming
of this moment since I was, you know, six ors old,
since I can remember. Really, you know, all of them
want to do is play in the NFL for a
great franchise. And you know, this has really been home.
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And I appreciate the Burg game, the rest Sea, that
miss all from.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
What do you like most? What do you like most
about this signing and the return of Kalais Campbell Just.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The fact that it's Kalais Campbell and he's back, Paulie,
It's incredible. The person, it's an amazing thing. What an
unbelievable career, I think, a Hall of Fame career by
Kalayis Campbell, and what a great football player he's been
for so long and if you look at all the
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games that he has played in, just an incredible amount
of games. There were two seasons he missed twelve or
he missed four four games in five games in two
different seasons, Paulie, and that pretty much has been it
for Khalayis. He's a stud through and through and to
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see him get rewarded and be able to come back
to the team in which he built his career nine
years with the Arizona Cardinals eye this is a dream.
You and I have talked about it in the offseason.
We thought we allowed ourselves to just imagine what that
would be like if Kalais came back on a one
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year deal. And sure enough, it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Happened second half of the Cardinals game at Miami this year.
I don't know if you remember. It was during a
commercial break and I was talking to you guys from
the sideline and I'm like, look at big ninety three. Yes,
the trade deadline is in less than a week. What if?
What if the Cardinals? Because of the Cardinals injuries in
the defensive line room, it made a lot of sense.
And then later later in the season it came out
Cardinals were one of the teams that made that phone
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call to the Dolphins and kick the tires. And you
know what, even better, they don't have to give up
like a Day three pick. They just go and they
sign him five point five million guaranteed a max of
seven point five on the deal, so he gets serious money.
But well beyond just you know the look, he's a
guy who started seventeen games each of the last two years.
He can still yes, play, but what do you think
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he does for the locker room and the young d
lineman in that room?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Just incredible, Bully, I mean, just to have a guy
like that, a mentor like that inside of the locker room.
And here's the great thing about it. A lot of times, Paully,
when a veteran gets older, he doesn't want a mentor
young guys. He doesn't want to help young guys take
his position. That's not Kaleis Campbell. And you know that
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he is going to be a mentor to all of
these young guys, and PAULI, I'm not just talking about
the young guys like Darius Robinson in the defensive line room.
That's what I'm talking I'm talking about on the entire team.
Kaleis Campbell has that kind of cred. He has that
kind of regard and respect inside the locker room where
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he can speak into the life of these young guys
and their professional career. He can do it on and
off the field, and it's going to matter to these
young guys. This is this is a There is not
a downside at all to Kalais Campbell coming back and
being an Arizona Cardinal and we're all going to have
a front row seat.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
He showed up in Miami last year as a newcomer
and was immediately voted a team captain. Yeah, yeah, and
I just remember down on this sideline. I mean just
the reverence Cardinals players had. You know, there was Paris
Johnson Junior immediately referring to him as the og like
during a TV timeout. So, yes, his reputation precedes him.
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And now he's going to be in that room. And
remember what Jag said about assessing what happened after the
bye and some of this might be leadership, so we'll
get more into that. In fact, nobody better than to
talk about leadership than Frosty Rutger. We've got a show
bigger than a six foot eight defensive lineman. It is
the big Red rage. Frosty is next all presented by
Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh Man. Clawson tried to hand it off and he
got tackled by Frosty Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He dropped bat Look at the veteran attack the eight camp.
How about that for some get off hand it.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Off to hide off the right side and he has
fun down in the backfield. Frosty Rucker was there first
for Arizona, handed off to Cunning him off the right
side and he is ripped down at the eighteen by Rucker.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wo Frosty Er, Frosty, such a wily veteran.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Kaepernick takes the shotgun snap short set, steps up and
sick by Frosty Rucker. And Rucker such an underrated player.
And they wouldn't be where they are defensively without that
guy bumble the ball. The Cardinals say they haven't. It
was Frosty Rucker that hacked it out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That wasn't hacking, that was blood permit.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Kalas Campbell recovers and the Cardinals get a huge takeaway.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
And I'll tell you what A lot more talk about
Kalis Campbell coming up right signing on for an eighteen
in a lot more talk still to come about Trey
McBride and now the highest paid tight end in NFL history.
But Ron Wolfley, when of your all time favorite dudes?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
We've had him on the Big Red Rage before. I
know the respect you have for this man. Realize he
played thirteen years in the NFL himself, And if we
want to raise the IQ around here, let's face it
goes well beyond the two of us. We got to
outsource it. So we welcome in Frosty Rucker on the
Big Rage. How we doing, Frosty?
Speaker 8 (13:29):
Oh man, I love it. I'm good. I'm good, just
so good to hear you guys' voice. Theres a lot
of exciting stuff going on, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
You know what can we start there? As a guy
who played thirteen years, Kalaiis is going into his eighteenth year. Wow,
can you put into perspective just the longevity aspect of it,
especially a guy who started all seventeen games each of
the last two seasons.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
What we're witnessing is a DEMI God. I think this
guy is a incredible talent. I don't think we've given
him as much respect for how well he takes care
of himself, how great of an athlete he is just
because he's so big, he's great on his feet. Even
in his older age, he's powerful. I mean, I can
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keep going on his leadership skills in the community, on
what he can do for that organization, what he's already done,
and I think it's the right time for Kalays Campbell.
He'll be back in that building.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Frosty though, it just seems so incredible that a guy
could play in the NFL trenches for eighteen years. It's
to me it is really truly stunning. I know we've
seen it before in the past. I understand that, but man,
for a guy like yourself who played a long time
as well in the National Football League, it's got to
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be quite the feat. You don't see this very often.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
Yeah, I think it's a determination because you cannot escape
knowing that there's bumps and bruises and and all that.
You know, you can't ever diminish what he has to
get through to get through practice. And we're talking about
a guy that practice is hard. You know, I've only
heard great things as he's gotten older. He never took
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himself out of practice. He was always out there working
and that's just who he is. It's his character and
you know, couldn't be more proud of a human being
to be where he is and what he's accomplished and
what is out in front of him. It's a Hall
of Fame type of player. Definitely a Hall of Fame
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fame type of player, and he needs the Super Bowl
to go with it.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker our guest here on
The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.
I heard a couple of Dolphins beat writers say that
he was the one guy in the roster last year
that held everyone else accountable in that locker room. How
big a deal is that, especially when you have young
guys like you know, first round or last year Darius
Robinson on the D line, Dante Stills. I mean, what
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kind of respected og like Kalais do for a young
d lineman in particular, Well.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
They get the best of all for us, because they're
going to get a guy that can back it up.
He has a tape the show and he's going to
show them by his work ethic and you know, again
he's a guy that you always have to try to
pull off the field. So they get firsthand. I'm sure
Calay is right now. His mental aspect of football is
out of this world. The concepts he's seen, the schemes,
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the blocking that you know, he's been a guy that
has been a double team, triple team type of player
on that football field. And these guys are going to
be able to witness it, and you know, the tape,
the film and the study, it's going to be all
there and they have nothing but to win out of
this scenario. And these guys should be running through a
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wall for Klays.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Whatever he says, Frosty, give me your state of the
game of football right now. As long as you've played
in the league, I know you love the sport as
well as you look at the game of football right now,
give me the state of football as you see it.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I think it's it's trending in a positive nature, despite
you know the groans that people have every offseason. You know,
you know, it's it's a shame the push is getting
as much publicity as it is in my opinion, because heck,
it's just like goal line offense defense. You know, when
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you got three tight ends in there, I remember that.
You know, have you ever thought about being tied in
on field goal when they send three or four people
at you, Like, what's the difference here? You know you
have to stop it at some point, and that's football.
But uh yeah, I think it's trending in the right direction.
I think we we we sat. We got to see
a bat One's attack last year of football. Good defensive
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minded coaches, you know that. You know, the Eagles put
on a show in that Super Bowl and it was
all about up front and obviously I love that how
they built that roster. And again, I think football is
training the right way. If there's anything to change, it
would just be uh, loosen up some of these infractions
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and defenders.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yes, what's it like to be at the epicenter of
what you know, the equivalent of a toush push fourth
and one quarterback sneak. Because you've been there and done that,
low man wins. But what's it like to be in
the middle of all that humanity?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Oh, there's a lot going on. You know, it's a
car accident, and I understand the safety precautions behind it,
but that's football, you know, it's you don't see the
guys with the bloody knuckles anymore and stuff out of
football like that, and this is one of those plays
that you get that fill. You know, look at how
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they changed the kickoff return right over the years. It
went from a wedge and then went from now you
don't even have one basically, right. So it's the involvement
of what the game is going to be and it's
gonna look, let.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Me ask you about you know, building from the inside out.
I'll do what I do best. I'll ask the dumb
guy question. You just mentioned the Eagles, right, all five
of their offensive linemen got all Pro votes. They obviously
had the most talented defensive front in the league, they
got after Mahomes. Do you think more teams now are
going to build from the inside out since you know
it's known as a copycat league.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean it's a trend, right, it's a trendy thing.
Sometimes you know, you get other positions that are you know,
the most valuable. But we all know if the league
is an offensive league, they want to see points. They
want to now see celebrations and all that. You know,
you got to get to the quarterback. You got to
stop this stuff. So before you know, it's going to
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change again and shift and it's going to be more
on the opposite side, because heck, they want more games.
That means more guys are going to be a little
bit more worn out, you know, maybe a little bit
less physical, and you know that's where it's headed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So frost A, I know that you have a relationship
with Pete Carroll, your former college coach at USC Pete
Carroll getting another gig at the age of seventy three
with the Raiders. Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
I think it's great. I think age is just a
number for coach Carol. I think his enthusiasm towards the game,
how smart and determined and passionate is about it, it
can transcend. He takes great care of himself. We haven't
heard much about, you know, health and wellness. Let's knock
on wood about any of that. He's sharp as attack
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and I think you know, he only took a breather off.
It's just one season. Mike crag yep, yep. Yeah. So
he's still in there. He's probably still looking at players.
He probably you know, was just waiting for his opportunity.
He never said he was going to completely walk away
from it. And he's right back in there. So with
the right energy, and you know, you know what atmosphere
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he's going to be able to be involved in this.
It's almost like s the ten point zero. You know,
we were in La and now he's in Vegas. He
has a light and you know there's no extra benefits
now all these guys get paid, so it should be.
I think it's a good fit. Him and Tom Brady
h going back and forth on you know, personnel and
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you know schemes and whatnot. I'm just waiting to see
how it plays out in September.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'm always amazed how he holds guys accountable because there
he was again at the owner's meetings right earlier. This
week he's in shorts and flip flops and he's got
that whole coach double rainbow vibe going. And how is
he behind the scenes and how does he get the
best out of grown men?
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Well, I think it's just something about being competitive, and
he's a competitive guy and he's given you everything yet
he has and he asked a lot from his staff
and as far as when you know you can gain
that extra yard here and there, and you know, the
little aspects of the game to push it. And he's
a motivator right, and guys want to get behind that.
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People want to be encouraged, you know, not to complain
about football, but to say, to go through a season,
it's hard and it's you know, it's grueling on your
body and your mind and trying to you know, stay healthy.
And a guy that's going to make sure to tell
you you have another gear every day and demand it
of you. You just push and these guys are trained
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enough for it and they can do it. The mind's
a beautiful thing when you get conditioned for it, and
it is brings that organization.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes it is frosty, no doubt about it. It's you know,
for me, and I think you feel the same way.
Playing the game of football is done on the line
of scrimmage. That that is what football is all about.
I loved it. I believe you loved it as well.
But what are your thoughts on the Bengals paying two
huge deals to wide receivers Jamar Chase and t Higgins.
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What do you think of that?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
I think enough public pressure has gotten them in that position,
not to say all the contracts weren't warranted. I think
you will be probably seeing a big time train in
the year or two, right, someone taking that on. There's
no way, but you know it's good that you know,
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a team did with technically everyone wants to see them
do and that stick by their guys, the guys that
show up bus their tail, you know, and that's where
you're supposed to get rewarded. So they did it. You know,
what it does with the franchise is up in the air.
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
So one of your longtime teammates, Carson Palmer right, both
college and pro, but now he's the head coach at
his alma mater in high school. Did he reach out
to you to be his DC? Because I know you've
done some coaching here and there. I ran into you
at the airport a couple of years ago. You're on
your way to a coaching camp. You're doing anything of
that anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
I still do the coaching camp, and no, I'm actually
visiting Carson in a week. I'm going to practice. And
like you said, we go all the way back from
high school.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
And it was kind of like a rivalry who played
each other in the high school championship game my freshman
year he was a senior and they did win. And
it's been a big deal and considered one of the
best games in Orange County history. It was Sean Foster
playing tailback, Carson Palmer playing quarterback, and it was it
was phenomenon. They call it the best high school football
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game in Orange County. So knowing him all the way
from there and stepping into that world in that locker room,
it's going to be something different for me. But you
know it's Carson. That's a brother. You guys know how
I feel about him. This opportunity for him is just
grand to be at his alma mater, to lead those
guys out on the field and in this game and
age when kids can transfer. He's out of private school,
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so you know, he's got his own free agency that
he can kind of try to do and he has
enough resources, so it should be special. He has to
play versus modern day survey. He's in that league, so yeah,
you know I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, Frosty, I have to I have to ask you this,
Who's the best three technique in the NFL right now?
As you see it? Whoa whoa?
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Oh, Chris Jones. He's he's been salted the last five years.
Seems like I would say he's the most dominant one.
I'll tell you that him, I like, uh, you got
you gotta go with these guys from Philly. I can't
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give the younger guys, even though they're playing well, I
can't give them, you know, the title yet.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Mean there are obviously phenomenal players. I just can't put
them all the way up there yet. So you have
to go with Chris. That was a great call. I
think you have to go with him just because his
age and the production and like to say, let's see
what position K played, but he was a bad dude
at the three technique.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, we can't wait to run into Clays. I've been
smiling all week and I can't wait to tell him
that that we were, that we spoke to you, okay,
and I'll tell him that that that fumble recovery we
heard you caused him.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
What's that? Getting phone calls and tags? And I told
everyone I'm coming back to the scenic too, so you know,
I don't know where I'm going to get in and
fit in, but you know, they it's the package bill.
That's how we do ninety three, you know. So that's great.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Frosty. We appreciate it, We really do. Thanks for the time,
Thanks for the insight.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Always, and everyone in the valley. Let's go. This is
the year. It's going to be better.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
There you go, Frosty Rucker. Everyone and I got the
acronym wrong. It's not DC, it's VC's in the venture
capital these days. So all the best him. We'll come back.
We'll talk more about Kalaias Campbell. That first, Trey mcpaid
as we continue the big Red Rage presented by Santan
Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Murray under center and takes the snap and it's a
gent sweet here side McBride sniff farming, getting close to
the goal line. Touch down. Trey McBride on the hand off.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
McBride is so good running the.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Football, looking deep left, throwing, McBride laying out and making
a great catch at the thirty eight, sliding to the
ground there pot by McBride wrapped up Croke and tackled
off and then he hurdles a defender in the forty
that was drunk ass.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
You can't control.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Trey McBride looking deep left, throwing and between four jets,
the ball is caught by Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Trey McBride. You are a bad, bad man. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
What's the old saying? Those who do it best make
it look easy any profession right, And doesn't Trey McBride
just look like a complete natural. He is so fluid,
he is so ultra competitive. And now guess what, as
I saw, bj Ojelori tweeted out, Trey, you earned it,
and he is now the highest paid NFL tight end ever.
(28:09):
I mean, look at Travis Kelce seventeen a year, TJ.
Hockinson sixteen point five, George Kittle fifteen a year, Dallas
Goddard fourteen and change, Mark Andrews fourteen even and Trey McBride.
McBride mcbraakes the bank nineteen million per year. He is
under contract through the twenty twenty nine season, and once again,
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he is aged twenty five. And well, yes, I know,
if you here wolf you'd ask him what his weight is.
But other than that, you tell us about McBride, and
what's what's the thing. Maybe I don't know you're looking
forward to the most as his career continues to evolve.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's really the versatility of Trey McBride that I love.
It really is, Paully I already talked a little bit
about eleven personnel and the fact that you can line
him up as a true stud tight end and you
can go out there on first and ten second, one
to six and you can attack line of scrimmage, you
can run the ball, you can do it in a downhill,
very physical kind of way away from Trey McBride or
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right over his back. He can do that, and he's
already proven he can do that. But what I love
is the versatility of Trey McBride. Drew Petsing, of course,
as we all know, loves twelve personnel one back two
tight ends. He loves thirteen personnel as well, Polly one
back three tight ends. The fact that you can take
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Trey McBride and you can make him the move tight
end as well. Bring in tip Ryan tip Ryman. I'm
expecting him to make a huge, huge jump into his
second year. If you want to bring in tip Ryman
as the true why the stud tight end, you bring
him in, He's gonna be fine. And then you've got
the move tight end, and that is Trey McBride, and
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Trey can move and suddenly, are you in twelve personnel
or are you in eleven personnel, because are you going
to count that, Are you going to count Trey McBride
as a wide receiver or is a tight end. That's
what a defensive coordinator has got to do in that situation,
and that brings versatility to the Arizona Cardinals, and I
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love that.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Once again, the first Cardinals tight end to make a
Pro Bowl since Hall of Famer Jackie Smith nineteen seventy.
And as he was putting together a record season, it
was mid season October at twenty four and Kyler Murray
was just asked about McBride and whether he can be
among the best in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Trace has got a great feel, you know, obviously being
a tight end and having a little leeway to do
things his way now and a lot of confidence, you know,
his ability along with the field that he's gained throughout
these years. I think sky's the limit for Trey. I think,
you know, he can be one of the best in
the league. I love going to work with him every day.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And he said more than once in front of his
locker that you know it was a process gaining his
confidence at the NFL level. You really saw it in
year two once Zach Ertz went down and he was
the man, and his confidence would just grow week after
week to the point where he came in this year.
He expected so much of himself. I mean, I'll just
give you a snapshot from the sideline when he doesn't
make a catch, which is really rare. Yeah, he had
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one of the best target to catch ratios in the
NFL period this last year. But when a play isn't made,
and most of the time it's because the ball is
off target, right, it's not him making drops. I mean
he's really hard on himself on the sideline. And we
know how he loves to talk. I mean he trash
talks with Buddha during practice, right and in camp. I
mean he's trash talking Fred Warner, who can't cover him,
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by the way, how infectious is that wolf? When you
get a guy that competitive on the.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Field, Oh yeah, no, Paully, I mean it is. For
most people. Football is a very in your face kind
of game, and trash talking comes with it. Now, there
are some masterful trash talkers, of course, that never costs.
They never they're never profane, and yet they are ripping
you beyond belief. There's been there's been some really really
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good NFL players in terms of doing that. But having
said that, PAULI once again, the thing that excites me
the most is the versatility of Trey McBride and the
fact that Kyler Murray is going to continue to develop
this chemistry with Trey McBride and Paul. The best thing
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about it is when you throw Tray the ball, the
best part is coming. It's not just the catch. It's
not just that he's going to be in the right place.
It's not that he's going to be open. It's not
that he's going to run the right route. For a
quarterback like Kyler Murray, one of the reasons why you
want to get him the ball is because the best
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part is coming after he catches the ball. He's a
very good open field runner. The physicality that he brings
in athleticism is off the charts. We're talking about he's
like George Kittle, only a little bit more athletic.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
And he told us more than once in the Big
Red Rage over the last couple of years that he
had a college coach that was all over him who
was relentless you should never go down in first contact,
and he just developed this mentality that I'm catching the ball.
I'm going to break down. I'm going to become James
Connor after. You know, I'm just going to bust tackles
left and right. It's going to take more than one
dude to bring me down. And so you knew going
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into the last year of his rookie contract after putting
a Pro Bowl campaign together that Manti asin for this
has become his way. You know, he got ahead of
it and got a deal done with Buddha Baker, got
a deal done with James Connor, and there he was
at the combine two months ago in Indianapolis and he expressed,
you know, his desire to keep Trey McBride in the
Azy Treys.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
A guy that does everything the right way. He's a
good leader for us on and off the field. He works,
he prepares, and he produces and so you know, Trey
is definitely a guy that we want to continue to
be in our program and continue to see what he
can do for us offensively.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And he's totally interesting. Paulli. It just I got to
jump in here, really interesting because we all know Mani
asin Fort and JG. They love they love a two
year window on a they love having that whether it's
a draft pick or a guy they're bringing in as
a free agent, whatever it is, they like that two
year window. You go ahead and you show us in
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two years, you show up the first year, how much
better do you actually get in this second year? They
love that two year window. And when you think about it, man,
the two years of Trey McBride and his ascension, that
arrow continues to point up, and I think that had
an awful lot to do with his signing.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know, you look at the division, right, I mentioned
Fred Warner. Fred Warner cannot cover Trey McBride. I absolutely torch.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And he's as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yes, I mean, if I'm Kyle Shanahan, if I mean,
if I'm Sean McVeigh, if I'm Mike McDonald up in Seattle,
I'm telling my defensive coordinators you better figure something out
this offseason to check eighty five, because he had three
games with a dozen or more catches, which is an
all time NFL record for tight ends. I mean there
were games where he just went off and defenses had
(34:59):
no way answer because the linebacker couldn't check him. And
then you put a corner or safety on him and
you know what, Tray's just too big. He gets his
body in between and it's just I'm really curious if
there's going to be a new game plan, especially within
the division for number eighty five next season.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, I'm sure there's going to be. But the best
part about it is he's going to be ready for it.
And he's going to be ready for it because of
two things, Polly that I love with Trey. He's humble
and he's hungry. Those two things right there. I love
the fact this is a guy that continues to be
one of his harshest critics will look at himself. This
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is a guy that is humble and it's going to
get better and better and better because he knows that
he's been gifted an awful lot, all this talent that
he has and now being rewarded for that. Trey is
the type of guy and you know him. He's a humble,
down to earth guy and he wants to get better.
It's one of the reasons why he takes pride in
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blocking to begin with. But he's also hungry, and you
got to feed these guys who get hungry.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, you know what, By the way, he was the
Cardinals Walter Payton Man of the Year nominations twenty twenty
four illustrate your point. Just this sort of person he is,
how competitive he is, the standard he sets in that
locker room. I mean, just how he's like a big kid.
I mean his personality. Remember him on the Big Red
Rage telling us that him and his brother, you know,
most evenings during the season, they're on Pinterest trying to
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find recipes to make it home. So now he needed
his own personal chef for nineteen million a year. But
it's it's the love of the game that fueled him.
It's at Colorado State when he was a two time
All American and he had chances to transfer, he was
just there, you know, I mean Fort Morgan, Colorado, his
hometown is throwing a big party this evening.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I would expect, Yeah, no doubt about that. And I
thought it was very cool because he already played the
cut of Monti Austin for talking about what a leader
Trey McBride was and is on this team right now.
This is verification what I love about this. He's getting
rewarded for what he has done, of course, but also
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it says something to every other guy that is in
that locker room. Hey, you go about your business, you
get better as a football player. You produce, and you're
gonna get paid.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
That's a great point. And you know what Marvin Arrison
junior in year two, You know the Cardinals with that
run game. If they get a speed receiver to stretch
the field, there's no reason why he can't exceed one
hundred eleven catches eleven hundred receiving yards. It's gonna be
real fun to see Trey McBride once again under contract
through twenty twenty nine. Hey, join us Thursday Draft Night,
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Speaker 4 (38:01):
Dragged down by Kaleis Campbell sack at the eighteen. It
was Kalaias Campbell there first, sack by Campbell at midvale
Kalais have it a day feeling pressure head and sacked
at the thirty five by Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Spring to the left.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's picked up by Campbell at twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Fuck Kalaius Campbell read bad play that is an all
Pro play by an all Pro player.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Hen sacked at the fifteen yard line by Kalis Campbell.
Sacked again Kalaias Campbell was there, sacked again at the
twenty eight yard line, and it's Kaleis Campbell.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
If you guys won't have to learn any names or
numbers when it comes to the big man in the preseason.
You've been there and done that his entire Cardinals' career.
It is amazing some of the fun facts on Kaleis
Campbell aged thirty eight. He'll be thirty nine at some
point this season. Year eighteen, you realize Ron wilfully that
Kalais is eleven plus years older than his d line.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Coach he has that that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
He has nine block field goals in his career at
six foot eight, it makes sense that's the third most
in the NFL since nineteen seventy. He was a rookie
on the Cardinals' Super Bowl forty three team in the
two thousand and eight campaign. Kalais was on that team.
He was named the All Decade Team into the twenty tens.
So when you dropped earlier and Frosty Rutger mentioned earlier
(39:25):
as well, you know, the potential for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame facts. I mean, he's a six time
Pro Bowler with one hundred and ten and a half
career sacks that is the third most among active players
right now. He's third all time on the Cardinals franchise
all time sack list, behind Chandler Jones and Freddie Joe Nunn.
So there's all that, and there's a dude who started
all seventeen games each of the last two years for
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Atlanta in Miami, and he comes in and think of
that d line room. Now, think of how deep that
position group is.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Wolf Pauly. First of all, I'm looking at Kalis Campbell
as a starter on the defensive line. Wow. You know,
I know you can look at it and say there's
a lot of competition that is there, and you are
right about that. But I think before it's all said
and done, I think Kalis Campbell is going to be
a starter on that defensive line. He's certainly capable of
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doing that. Fifty two tackles last year, fifty two tackles
alone last year for Kalis Campbell, and five sacks as well.
This is a guy that is still a very productive
defensive lineman in the NFL. I don't know where they're
going to play him. This is what fascinates me. It's
going to be really interesting. Are you going to play
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him as the three technique You're going to play him
over the guards outside shoulder, or are you going to
play him as a five technique a little bit more
over the outside shoulder of an offensive tackle, or maybe
a four I where you're just inside of that offensive tackle.
Where are they going to play Kaleis Campbell the most?
That is something that I am really looking forward to seeing.
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But the one thing I do know about out this
this defensive line and this defense, the Arizona Cardinals defense
is going to be better in twenty twenty five because
of Kalais.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
And you know what, guys like Paris Johnson Junior, they
got a taste of Kalais Campbell last year Cardinals and
Dolphins mid season in Miami. And guess what, Paris Johnson Junior,
he was miked up.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
Come on, oh j he said, I was till young
o Ja Come on, oh Jake, Come on, oh Jake.
That's what I'm talking about, Oh Jake, get your hands up,
get your hands up.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I would love to be there when Paris Johnson Junior
and Kalais Campbell reunite for the first time in the Cardinals'
locker room.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yes, Paully, do you have any idea what he was saying?
Get your hands up? Why he was saying that? Do
you have any idea? Not? Really? No, Okay, I can
I offer you something.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
For as someone Polly Pensilnik who's never played in the trenches,
please illuminate.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Me well as you would if you've already pointed out.
He's six'. Eight he's a big tree with. Arms that's
what he. Is and get your hands. Up get your hands,
up because maybe he was jabbing him in the ribs
when he'd put his hands. Up i'm just, saying, MAN
i would love to know why he's saying. That why
(42:24):
would you Encourage Kalaius campbell to put his hands? UP i,
mean especially because he is so good at batting balls.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
DOWN i, mean, look when you stand out in AN nfl,
HUDDLE i mean you are an ultra large human, being
and that Is Kalais. Campbell but back to your point
about you have him as a. Starter that's. Intriguing first,
off let me just say. THIS i, mean you look
at the end of last season and who The cardinals
had to suit up because of, injury, RIGHT i mean
you at the end of the last year Had Nakwon
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jones And Kyrie's tonga and you, KNOW i Mean Roy
lopez had a great, year but he's. Gone and now
you're going to roll out, There Dalvin, Thomlinson Justin, Jones Blal,
Nichols Darius, ROBINSON. Lj collier is, Back Dante stills and
you Had Kaleus. CAMPBELL i, Mean, wolf how competitive is
that room right?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Now it's. UNBELIEVABLE balli WHEN i think Of Justin, jones
this guy who played in three, games And Balal nichols
who played in six games as, well but Especially Justin,
JONES i was really curious to see what kind of
impact he was going to make with The cardinals front
seven and he only got to play in three. Games
(43:36):
Darius robinson right, now just the fact that he is so,
talented so. Young that's the other part about this that
we haven't talked. About Just Kalauis campbell Taking Darius robinson
under his wing literally and mentoring. Him how much better
Could Darius robinson be this season than he was his
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rookie Ear we're going to find. Out but, man the
talent that is in the defensive line room right, now
it is as competitive AS i can, Remember.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Paulie and you got to give Many Assin ford and
jg credit, here. RIGHT i mean it's been like a
construction zone in THAT d line position. Group, YEAH i,
mean it's been like extreme MAKEOVER d. Line, addition they
got to put this like On home And Garden network
at this, point what they've done in THAT d line.
Room and to your point about the experience of a
thirty eight year old who's going into his eighteen. Season guess,
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what they love their higher Coach debo as A d line.
Coach but he's twenty eight to twenty nine years old
and he was coaching in the college. Game so there
are certain things That kalayas can share with The Darius
robinson And Dante stills that you, know most other humans
in the planet. Cannot, yes that's got to be really,
beneficial by the, WAY.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I Want, YEAH i just want to say this, Quickly.
Pauli right, Here Kalis, Campbell Dalvin tomlinson over the, Nose Darius,
Robinson i'll take. It you know.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
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We've got a big man signing. We've got the biggest
tight end contract in NFL history. We've got a big
time guest and former Cardinals d lineman Frosty Rucker.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
But we'll start with.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
A big headline from earlier today because not much news
can trump the big man Kalais Campbell signing on the
line that has dotted, I mean returning to the Arizona Cardinals.
But we got it late this afternoon. Tight end Trey
McBride a four year extension through the twenty twenty nine season.
He is now the highest paid tight in on an
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average annual basis in NFL history. How about that?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's huge, Paully, Are you gonna do it? Are you
gonna do the big big bag? Are you gonna do it?
Speaker 8 (02:10):
Nil?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
No, because it is a big deal today is a
big deal for the Arizona Cardinals. A couple of moves
that we're going to get into, of course, with Trey McBride,
the stud tight end that he is, This is this
signing happened? Because he is a true stud tight end.
He's a y tight end. He's a guy you can
line up on the tackles hip and you can run
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the ball behind him. Because Trey McBride has worked super
hard to become a very good blocking tight end in
the NFL. He's very very close with George Kittle, of course,
and Kittle I think has had a big impact on
Trey McBride. I'm just really really encouraged for this young
guy because Paulie, when you can go eleven personnel, and
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I've said this to you before, but it's the truth
and it bears repeating, when you can line up with
three hysid receivers, a tight end and a running back
eleven personnel on first and ten second and one to
six and run down situation. When you can do that
and run the ball and stay balanced as an offense,
not just throw the ball with three wide receivers out there,
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but run the ball and run it in a physical
kind of way north south, attacking the line of scrimmage.
When you can actually do that as an offense, you've
got a big advantage if you can actually remain balanced,
just like the forty nine ers were doing when they
were super good a couple of years ago. They could
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go eleven personnel and they did it often, and it
was very difficult to stop them. I'm wondering if we
might see the same evolution with the Cardinals here in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
You know, that's a good point. That's a good name
drop on George Kittle. In fact, when Drey McBride goes
to tight end you this year, right, he's gonna have
to pick up a few dinner checks. I'm just saying
that right here, right now. I mean, he he sets
the tight end market. Four years, seventy six million dollar extension,
forty three million guaranteed is average annual salary about nineteen
million per under contract through twenty twenty nine. And maybe
(04:12):
here's the best part. Wolf he's twenty five. He doesn't
turn twenty six until November. I mean, he's got the
best hands on the team. He has serious upsides still,
And that's not just us. That is Kyler Murray, who
was asked late in the season, right early January, about
Trey McBride and his future.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, he can be which is you know, it's saying
a lot, you know, He's a beast. He's a beef.
I'll say I'll say it every time. I think he's
the best in the league. And he'll only continue to
get better as we get better together.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And that was a question, can he get better? And
it was an absolute definitive yes from Kyler Murray. And
you agree immediately with Kyler. I mean you see it.
You saw him get better over the course of the year,
did you not.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, No, there's no doubt about it, PAULI, Yeah, I
totally agree with what Kyler is saying right there. What's
really cool. He is the highest paid tight end in
the National Football League right now. And as soon as
you say that, you have to think of George Kittle. Yep,
you have to think of Kittle and I compare and
contrast those two guys, because you can stop and think
(05:14):
about that for a minute, just the fact that Trey McBride,
even before he signed this contract, you could compare and
contrast George Kittle and Trey McBride. And when you do
that comparison, and we've talked a little bit about it
in the past, paually, but I think George Kittle is
still a little bit better of a run blocker than
Trey McBride agreed, And I think that Trey McBride is,
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believe it or not a little bit better route runner
and receiver than George Kittle to me. And that kind
of makes it a little bit of a wash right there,
because I also think this, and this is what's fascinating.
George Kittle redefined how a tight end was supposed to
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run the ball after the catch. George Kittle did that.
You watch you look at him, go back and look
at his highlight tape, Polly, George Kittle after he gets
the ball in his hand, runs like a madman. Guess what,
Trey McBride might be better than Kittle and running after
the catch. That's saying an awful lot.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
And you know what, that record he set most receptions
by a tight end in their first three seasons in
NFL history. He broke George Kittle's record. So think about
this as well. You go, he only had twenty nine
catches as a rookie. He didn't really get significant playing time.
It wasn't a primary target till the zach Ertz injury
midway through his second year. So he has two hundred
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and twenty one career receptions and basically a season and
a half for all intents and purposes. Last year a
buck eleven in terms of receptions, which by the way,
more catches than Larry Fitzgerald ever, had fourth best tight
end reception season ever. He had the two receiving touchdowns
at the very end, had a rushing Touchdow had a
fumble recovery touchdown. I had him for four hurdles. I
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don't know if it was three or four, but he
had four ridiculous hurdles. So there's all that, And we're
going to get into more of Trey McBride a little
bit later. We know he's smiling, Wolf. I think you've
been smiling all week, just like me when the news
broke man that Coaleuis Campbell is returning to the Arizona Cardinals.
And just to set things in perspective here, especially on
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The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert
Let's Flashback Our, jim O Mahundra went into his extensive archives.
This is his final show after the twenty sixteen season.
It wasn't official yet, but we asked him, what if
if this is indeed your last show? If this is
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indeed your last show, and this is your last season
as an Arizona Cardinal. I mean, you'd like to say
to the Red Sea.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
Well, I appreciate the love, you know, and I understand.
You know, you guys really want to be back, you know,
and I really want to be back. You know, It's
been unbelievable Riot. The last nine ers have been amazing,
and I'm really I've been blessed. I played a game
I love at a high level and I've been dreaming
of this moment since I was, you know, six ors old,
since I can remember. Really, you know, all of them
want to do is play in the NFL for a
great franchise. And you know, this has really been home.
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And I appreciate the Burg game, the rest Sea, that
miss all from.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
What do you like most? What do you like most
about this signing and the return of Kalais Campbell Just.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
The fact that it's Kalais Campbell and he's back, Paulie,
It's incredible. The person, it's an amazing thing. What an
unbelievable career, I think, a Hall of Fame career by
Kalayis Campbell, and what a great football player he's been
for so long and if you look at all the
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games that he has played in, just an incredible amount
of games. There were two seasons he missed twelve or
he missed four four games in five games in two
different seasons, Paulie, and that pretty much has been it
for Khalayis. He's a stud through and through and to
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see him get rewarded and be able to come back
to the team in which he built his career nine
years with the Arizona Cardinals eye this is a dream.
You and I have talked about it in the offseason.
We thought we allowed ourselves to just imagine what that
would be like if Kalais came back on a one
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year deal. And sure enough, it.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Happened second half of the Cardinals game at Miami this year.
I don't know if you remember. It was during a
commercial break and I was talking to you guys from
the sideline and I'm like, look at big ninety three. Yes,
the trade deadline is in less than a week. What if?
What if the Cardinals? Because of the Cardinals injuries in
the defensive line room, it made a lot of sense.
And then later later in the season it came out
Cardinals were one of the teams that made that phone
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call to the Dolphins and kick the tires. And you
know what, even better, they don't have to give up
like a Day three pick. They just go and they
sign him five point five million guaranteed a max of
seven point five on the deal, so he gets serious money.
But well beyond just you know the look, he's a
guy who started seventeen games each of the last two years.
He can still yes, play, but what do you think
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he does for the locker room and the young d
lineman in that room?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Just incredible, Bully, I mean, just to have a guy
like that, a mentor like that inside of the locker room.
And here's the great thing about it. A lot of times, Paully,
when a veteran gets older, he doesn't want a mentor
young guys. He doesn't want to help young guys take
his position. That's not Kaleis Campbell. And you know that
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he is going to be a mentor to all of
these young guys, and PAULI, I'm not just talking about
the young guys like Darius Robinson in the defensive line room.
That's what I'm talking I'm talking about on the entire team.
Kaleis Campbell has that kind of cred. He has that
kind of regard and respect inside the locker room where
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he can speak into the life of these young guys
and their professional career. He can do it on and
off the field, and it's going to matter to these
young guys. This is this is a There is not
a downside at all to Kalais Campbell coming back and
being an Arizona Cardinal and we're all going to have
a front row seat.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
He showed up in Miami last year as a newcomer
and was immediately voted a team captain. Yeah, yeah, and
I just remember down on this sideline. I mean just
the reverence Cardinals players had. You know, there was Paris
Johnson Junior immediately referring to him as the og like
during a TV timeout. So, yes, his reputation precedes him.
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And now he's going to be in that room. And
remember what Jag said about assessing what happened after the
bye and some of this might be leadership, so we'll
get more into that. In fact, nobody better than to
talk about leadership than Frosty Rutger. We've got a show
bigger than a six foot eight defensive lineman. It is
the big Red rage. Frosty is next all presented by
Santan Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Oh Man. Clawson tried to hand it off and he
got tackled by Frosty Rutgers.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
He dropped bat Look at the veteran attack the eight camp.
How about that for some get off hand it.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Off to hide off the right side and he has
fun down in the backfield. Frosty Rucker was there first
for Arizona, handed off to Cunning him off the right
side and he is ripped down at the eighteen by Rucker.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Wo Frosty Er, Frosty, such a wily veteran.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Kaepernick takes the shotgun snap short set, steps up and
sick by Frosty Rucker. And Rucker such an underrated player.
And they wouldn't be where they are defensively without that
guy bumble the ball. The Cardinals say they haven't. It
was Frosty Rucker that hacked it out.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
That wasn't hacking, that was blood permit.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Kalas Campbell recovers and the Cardinals get a huge takeaway.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
And I'll tell you what A lot more talk about
Kalis Campbell coming up right signing on for an eighteen
in a lot more talk still to come about Trey
McBride and now the highest paid tight end in NFL history.
But Ron Wolfley, when of your all time favorite dudes?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know it.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
We've had him on the Big Red Rage before. I
know the respect you have for this man. Realize he
played thirteen years in the NFL himself, And if we
want to raise the IQ around here, let's face it
goes well beyond the two of us. We got to
outsource it. So we welcome in Frosty Rucker on the
Big Rage. How we doing, Frosty?
Speaker 8 (13:29):
Oh man, I love it. I'm good. I'm good, just
so good to hear you guys' voice. Theres a lot
of exciting stuff going on, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
You know what can we start there? As a guy
who played thirteen years, Kalaiis is going into his eighteenth year. Wow,
can you put into perspective just the longevity aspect of it,
especially a guy who started all seventeen games each of
the last two seasons.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
What we're witnessing is a DEMI God. I think this
guy is a incredible talent. I don't think we've given
him as much respect for how well he takes care
of himself, how great of an athlete he is just
because he's so big, he's great on his feet. Even
in his older age, he's powerful. I mean, I can
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keep going on his leadership skills in the community, on
what he can do for that organization, what he's already done,
and I think it's the right time for Kalays Campbell.
He'll be back in that building.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Frosty though, it just seems so incredible that a guy
could play in the NFL trenches for eighteen years. It's
to me it is really truly stunning. I know we've
seen it before in the past. I understand that, but man,
for a guy like yourself who played a long time
as well in the National Football League, it's got to
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be quite the feat. You don't see this very often.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
Yeah, I think it's a determination because you cannot escape
knowing that there's bumps and bruises and and all that.
You know, you can't ever diminish what he has to
get through to get through practice. And we're talking about
a guy that practice is hard. You know, I've only
heard great things as he's gotten older. He never took
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himself out of practice. He was always out there working
and that's just who he is. It's his character and
you know, couldn't be more proud of a human being
to be where he is and what he's accomplished and
what is out in front of him. It's a Hall
of Fame type of player. Definitely a Hall of Fame
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fame type of player, and he needs the Super Bowl
to go with it.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker our guest here on
The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert.
I heard a couple of Dolphins beat writers say that
he was the one guy in the roster last year
that held everyone else accountable in that locker room. How
big a deal is that, especially when you have young
guys like you know, first round or last year Darius
Robinson on the D line, Dante Stills. I mean, what
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kind of respected og like Kalais do for a young
d lineman in particular, Well.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
They get the best of all for us, because they're
going to get a guy that can back it up.
He has a tape the show and he's going to
show them by his work ethic and you know, again
he's a guy that you always have to try to
pull off the field. So they get firsthand. I'm sure
Calay is right now. His mental aspect of football is
out of this world. The concepts he's seen, the schemes,
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the blocking that you know, he's been a guy that
has been a double team, triple team type of player
on that football field. And these guys are going to
be able to witness it, and you know, the tape,
the film and the study, it's going to be all
there and they have nothing but to win out of
this scenario. And these guys should be running through a
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wall for Klays.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Whatever he says, Frosty, give me your state of the
game of football right now. As long as you've played
in the league, I know you love the sport as
well as you look at the game of football right now,
give me the state of football as you see it.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I think it's it's trending in a positive nature, despite
you know the groans that people have every offseason. You know,
you know, it's it's a shame the push is getting
as much publicity as it is in my opinion, because heck,
it's just like goal line offense defense. You know, when
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you got three tight ends in there, I remember that.
You know, have you ever thought about being tied in
on field goal when they send three or four people
at you, Like, what's the difference here? You know you
have to stop it at some point, and that's football.
But uh yeah, I think it's trending in the right direction.
I think we we we sat. We got to see
a bat One's attack last year of football. Good defensive
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minded coaches, you know that. You know, the Eagles put
on a show in that Super Bowl and it was
all about up front and obviously I love that how
they built that roster. And again, I think football is
training the right way. If there's anything to change, it
would just be uh, loosen up some of these infractions
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and defenders.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yes, what's it like to be at the epicenter of
what you know, the equivalent of a toush push fourth
and one quarterback sneak. Because you've been there and done that,
low man wins. But what's it like to be in
the middle of all that humanity?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
Oh, there's a lot going on. You know, it's a
car accident, and I understand the safety precautions behind it,
but that's football, you know, it's you don't see the
guys with the bloody knuckles anymore and stuff out of
football like that, and this is one of those plays
that you get that fill. You know, look at how
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they changed the kickoff return right over the years. It
went from a wedge and then went from now you
don't even have one basically, right. So it's the involvement
of what the game is going to be and it's
gonna look, let.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Me ask you about you know, building from the inside out.
I'll do what I do best. I'll ask the dumb
guy question. You just mentioned the Eagles, right, all five
of their offensive linemen got all Pro votes. They obviously
had the most talented defensive front in the league, they
got after Mahomes. Do you think more teams now are
going to build from the inside out since you know
it's known as a copycat league.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Yeah, I mean it's a trend, right, it's a trendy thing.
Sometimes you know, you get other positions that are you know,
the most valuable. But we all know if the league
is an offensive league, they want to see points. They
want to now see celebrations and all that. You know,
you got to get to the quarterback. You got to
stop this stuff. So before you know, it's going to
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change again and shift and it's going to be more
on the opposite side, because heck, they want more games.
That means more guys are going to be a little
bit more worn out, you know, maybe a little bit
less physical, and you know that's where it's headed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So frost A, I know that you have a relationship
with Pete Carroll, your former college coach at USC Pete
Carroll getting another gig at the age of seventy three
with the Raiders. Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
I think it's great. I think age is just a
number for coach Carol. I think his enthusiasm towards the game,
how smart and determined and passionate is about it, it
can transcend. He takes great care of himself. We haven't
heard much about, you know, health and wellness. Let's knock
on wood about any of that. He's sharp as attack
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and I think you know, he only took a breather off.
It's just one season. Mike crag yep, yep. Yeah. So
he's still in there. He's probably still looking at players.
He probably you know, was just waiting for his opportunity.
He never said he was going to completely walk away
from it. And he's right back in there. So with
the right energy, and you know, you know what atmosphere
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he's going to be able to be involved in this.
It's almost like s the ten point zero. You know,
we were in La and now he's in Vegas. He
has a light and you know there's no extra benefits
now all these guys get paid, so it should be.
I think it's a good fit. Him and Tom Brady
h going back and forth on you know, personnel and
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you know schemes and whatnot. I'm just waiting to see
how it plays out in September.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
I'm always amazed how he holds guys accountable because there
he was again at the owner's meetings right earlier. This
week he's in shorts and flip flops and he's got
that whole coach double rainbow vibe going. And how is
he behind the scenes and how does he get the
best out of grown men?
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Well, I think it's just something about being competitive, and
he's a competitive guy and he's given you everything yet
he has and he asked a lot from his staff
and as far as when you know you can gain
that extra yard here and there, and you know, the
little aspects of the game to push it. And he's
a motivator right, and guys want to get behind that.
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People want to be encouraged, you know, not to complain
about football, but to say, to go through a season,
it's hard and it's you know, it's grueling on your
body and your mind and trying to you know, stay healthy.
And a guy that's going to make sure to tell
you you have another gear every day and demand it
of you. You just push and these guys are trained
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enough for it and they can do it. The mind's
a beautiful thing when you get conditioned for it, and
it is brings that organization.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes it is frosty, no doubt about it. It's you know,
for me, and I think you feel the same way.
Playing the game of football is done on the line
of scrimmage. That that is what football is all about.
I loved it. I believe you loved it as well.
But what are your thoughts on the Bengals paying two
huge deals to wide receivers Jamar Chase and t Higgins.
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What do you think of that?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
I think enough public pressure has gotten them in that position,
not to say all the contracts weren't warranted. I think
you will be probably seeing a big time train in
the year or two, right, someone taking that on. There's
no way, but you know it's good that you know,
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a team did with technically everyone wants to see them
do and that stick by their guys, the guys that
show up bus their tail, you know, and that's where
you're supposed to get rewarded. So they did it. You know,
what it does with the franchise is up in the air.
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
So one of your longtime teammates, Carson Palmer right, both
college and pro, but now he's the head coach at
his alma mater in high school. Did he reach out
to you to be his DC? Because I know you've
done some coaching here and there. I ran into you
at the airport a couple of years ago. You're on
your way to a coaching camp. You're doing anything of
that anymore.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
I still do the coaching camp, and no, I'm actually
visiting Carson in a week. I'm going to practice. And
like you said, we go all the way back from
high school.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (24:03):
And it was kind of like a rivalry who played
each other in the high school championship game my freshman
year he was a senior and they did win. And
it's been a big deal and considered one of the
best games in Orange County history. It was Sean Foster
playing tailback, Carson Palmer playing quarterback, and it was it
was phenomenon. They call it the best high school football
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game in Orange County. So knowing him all the way
from there and stepping into that world in that locker room,
it's going to be something different for me. But you
know it's Carson. That's a brother. You guys know how
I feel about him. This opportunity for him is just
grand to be at his alma mater, to lead those
guys out on the field and in this game and
age when kids can transfer. He's out of private school,
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so you know, he's got his own free agency that
he can kind of try to do and he has
enough resources, so it should be special. He has to
play versus modern day survey. He's in that league, so yeah,
you know I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, Frosty, I have to I have to ask you this,
Who's the best three technique in the NFL right now?
As you see it? Whoa whoa?
Speaker 8 (25:16):
Oh, Chris Jones. He's he's been salted the last five years.
Seems like I would say he's the most dominant one.
I'll tell you that him, I like, uh, you got
you gotta go with these guys from Philly. I can't
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give the younger guys, even though they're playing well, I
can't give them, you know, the title yet.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
But Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Mean there are obviously phenomenal players. I just can't put
them all the way up there yet. So you have
to go with Chris. That was a great call. I
think you have to go with him just because his
age and the production and like to say, let's see
what position K played, but he was a bad dude
at the three technique.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yes, we can't wait to run into Clays. I've been
smiling all week and I can't wait to tell him
that that we were, that we spoke to you, okay,
and I'll tell him that that that fumble recovery we
heard you caused him.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
What's that? Getting phone calls and tags? And I told
everyone I'm coming back to the scenic too, so you know,
I don't know where I'm going to get in and
fit in, but you know, they it's the package bill.
That's how we do ninety three, you know. So that's great.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Frosty. We appreciate it, We really do. Thanks for the time,
Thanks for the insight.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Always, and everyone in the valley. Let's go. This is
the year. It's going to be better.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
There you go, Frosty Rucker. Everyone and I got the
acronym wrong. It's not DC, it's VC's in the venture
capital these days. So all the best him. We'll come back.
We'll talk more about Kalaias Campbell. That first, Trey mcpaid
as we continue the big Red Rage presented by Santan
Ford in Gilbert.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Murray under center and takes the snap and it's a
gent sweet here side McBride sniff farming, getting close to
the goal line. Touch down. Trey McBride on the hand off.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
McBride is so good running the.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Football, looking deep left, throwing, McBride laying out and making
a great catch at the thirty eight, sliding to the
ground there pot by McBride wrapped up Croke and tackled
off and then he hurdles a defender in the forty
that was drunk ass.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
You can't control.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Trey McBride looking deep left, throwing and between four jets,
the ball is caught by Trey McBride.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Trey McBride. You are a bad, bad man. Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
What's the old saying? Those who do it best make
it look easy any profession right, And doesn't Trey McBride
just look like a complete natural. He is so fluid,
he is so ultra competitive. And now guess what, as
I saw, bj Ojelori tweeted out, Trey, you earned it,
and he is now the highest paid NFL tight end ever.
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I mean, look at Travis Kelce seventeen a year, TJ.
Hockinson sixteen point five, George Kittle fifteen a year, Dallas
Goddard fourteen and change, Mark Andrews fourteen even and Trey McBride.
McBride mcbraakes the bank nineteen million per year. He is
under contract through the twenty twenty nine season, and once again,
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he is aged twenty five. And well, yes, I know,
if you here wolf you'd ask him what his weight is.
But other than that, you tell us about McBride, and
what's what's the thing. Maybe I don't know you're looking
forward to the most as his career continues to evolve.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's really the versatility of Trey McBride that I love.
It really is, Paully I already talked a little bit
about eleven personnel and the fact that you can line
him up as a true stud tight end and you
can go out there on first and ten second, one
to six and you can attack line of scrimmage, you
can run the ball, you can do it in a downhill,
very physical kind of way away from Trey McBride or
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right over his back. He can do that, and he's
already proven he can do that. But what I love
is the versatility of Trey McBride. Drew Petsing, of course,
as we all know, loves twelve personnel one back two
tight ends. He loves thirteen personnel as well, Polly one
back three tight ends. The fact that you can take
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Trey McBride and you can make him the move tight
end as well. Bring in tip Ryan tip Ryman. I'm
expecting him to make a huge, huge jump into his
second year. If you want to bring in tip Ryman
as the true why the stud tight end, you bring
him in, He's gonna be fine. And then you've got
the move tight end, and that is Trey McBride, and
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Trey can move and suddenly, are you in twelve personnel
or are you in eleven personnel, because are you going
to count that, Are you going to count Trey McBride
as a wide receiver or is a tight end. That's
what a defensive coordinator has got to do in that situation,
and that brings versatility to the Arizona Cardinals, and I
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love that.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
Once again, the first Cardinals tight end to make a
Pro Bowl since Hall of Famer Jackie Smith nineteen seventy.
And as he was putting together a record season, it
was mid season October at twenty four and Kyler Murray
was just asked about McBride and whether he can be
among the best in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Trace has got a great feel, you know, obviously being
a tight end and having a little leeway to do
things his way now and a lot of confidence, you know,
his ability along with the field that he's gained throughout
these years. I think sky's the limit for Trey. I think,
you know, he can be one of the best in
the league. I love going to work with him every day.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And he said more than once in front of his
locker that you know it was a process gaining his
confidence at the NFL level. You really saw it in
year two once Zach Ertz went down and he was
the man, and his confidence would just grow week after
week to the point where he came in this year.
He expected so much of himself. I mean, I'll just
give you a snapshot from the sideline when he doesn't
make a catch, which is really rare. Yeah, he had
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one of the best target to catch ratios in the
NFL period this last year. But when a play isn't made,
and most of the time it's because the ball is
off target, right, it's not him making drops. I mean
he's really hard on himself on the sideline. And we
know how he loves to talk. I mean he trash
talks with Buddha during practice, right and in camp. I
mean he's trash talking Fred Warner, who can't cover him,
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by the way, how infectious is that wolf? When you
get a guy that competitive on the.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Field, Oh yeah, no, Paully, I mean it is. For
most people. Football is a very in your face kind
of game, and trash talking comes with it. Now, there
are some masterful trash talkers, of course, that never costs.
They never they're never profane, and yet they are ripping
you beyond belief. There's been there's been some really really
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good NFL players in terms of doing that. But having
said that, PAULI once again, the thing that excites me
the most is the versatility of Trey McBride and the
fact that Kyler Murray is going to continue to develop
this chemistry with Trey McBride and Paul. The best thing
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about it is when you throw Tray the ball, the
best part is coming. It's not just the catch. It's
not just that he's going to be in the right place.
It's not that he's going to be open. It's not
that he's going to run the right route. For a
quarterback like Kyler Murray, one of the reasons why you
want to get him the ball is because the best
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part is coming after he catches the ball. He's a
very good open field runner. The physicality that he brings
in athleticism is off the charts. We're talking about he's
like George Kittle, only a little bit more athletic.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
And he told us more than once in the Big
Red Rage over the last couple of years that he
had a college coach that was all over him who
was relentless you should never go down in first contact,
and he just developed this mentality that I'm catching the ball.
I'm going to break down. I'm going to become James
Connor after. You know, I'm just going to bust tackles
left and right. It's going to take more than one
dude to bring me down. And so you knew going
(33:17):
into the last year of his rookie contract after putting
a Pro Bowl campaign together that Manti asin for this
has become his way. You know, he got ahead of
it and got a deal done with Buddha Baker, got
a deal done with James Connor, and there he was
at the combine two months ago in Indianapolis and he expressed,
you know, his desire to keep Trey McBride in the
Azy Treys.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
A guy that does everything the right way. He's a
good leader for us on and off the field. He works,
he prepares, and he produces and so you know, Trey
is definitely a guy that we want to continue to
be in our program and continue to see what he
can do for us offensively.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And he's totally interesting. Paulli. It just I got to
jump in here, really interesting because we all know Mani
asin Fort and JG. They love they love a two
year window on a they love having that whether it's
a draft pick or a guy they're bringing in as
a free agent, whatever it is, they like that two
year window. You go ahead and you show us in
(34:10):
two years, you show up the first year, how much
better do you actually get in this second year? They
love that two year window. And when you think about it, man,
the two years of Trey McBride and his ascension, that
arrow continues to point up, and I think that had
an awful lot to do with his signing.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know, you look at the division, right, I mentioned
Fred Warner. Fred Warner cannot cover Trey McBride. I absolutely torch.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And he's as good as it gets.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yes, I mean, if I'm Kyle Shanahan, if I mean,
if I'm Sean McVeigh, if I'm Mike McDonald up in Seattle,
I'm telling my defensive coordinators you better figure something out
this offseason to check eighty five, because he had three
games with a dozen or more catches, which is an
all time NFL record for tight ends. I mean there
were games where he just went off and defenses had
(34:59):
no way answer because the linebacker couldn't check him. And
then you put a corner or safety on him and
you know what, Tray's just too big. He gets his
body in between and it's just I'm really curious if
there's going to be a new game plan, especially within
the division for number eighty five next season.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, I'm sure there's going to be. But the best
part about it is he's going to be ready for it.
And he's going to be ready for it because of
two things, Polly that I love with Trey. He's humble
and he's hungry. Those two things right there. I love
the fact this is a guy that continues to be
one of his harshest critics will look at himself. This
(35:36):
is a guy that is humble and it's going to
get better and better and better because he knows that
he's been gifted an awful lot, all this talent that
he has and now being rewarded for that. Trey is
the type of guy and you know him. He's a humble,
down to earth guy and he wants to get better.
It's one of the reasons why he takes pride in
(35:58):
blocking to begin with. But he's also hungry, and you
got to feed these guys who get hungry.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, you know what, By the way, he was the
Cardinals Walter Payton Man of the Year nominations twenty twenty
four illustrate your point. Just this sort of person he is,
how competitive he is, the standard he sets in that
locker room. I mean, just how he's like a big kid.
I mean his personality. Remember him on the Big Red
Rage telling us that him and his brother, you know,
most evenings during the season, they're on Pinterest trying to
(36:27):
find recipes to make it home. So now he needed
his own personal chef for nineteen million a year. But
it's it's the love of the game that fueled him.
It's at Colorado State when he was a two time
All American and he had chances to transfer, he was
just there, you know, I mean Fort Morgan, Colorado, his
hometown is throwing a big party this evening.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I would expect, Yeah, no doubt about that. And I
thought it was very cool because he already played the
cut of Monti Austin for talking about what a leader
Trey McBride was and is on this team right now.
This is verification what I love about this. He's getting
rewarded for what he has done, of course, but also
(37:07):
it says something to every other guy that is in
that locker room. Hey, you go about your business, you
get better as a football player. You produce, and you're
gonna get paid.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
That's a great point. And you know what Marvin Arrison
junior in year two, You know the Cardinals with that
run game. If they get a speed receiver to stretch
the field, there's no reason why he can't exceed one
hundred eleven catches eleven hundred receiving yards. It's gonna be
real fun to see Trey McBride once again under contract
through twenty twenty nine. Hey, join us Thursday Draft Night,
(37:44):
Cardinals Official Draft Party. I'll be out there. We got
it rocking. Free tickets, free parking. It is on the
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Draft Party. Kolescampbell, we'll talk to big Man next on
the Big Red Rage.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
Dragged down by Kaleis Campbell sack at the eighteen. It
was Kalaias Campbell there first, sack by Campbell at midvale
Kalais have it a day feeling pressure head and sacked
at the thirty five by Kalais Campbell.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Spring to the left.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's picked up by Campbell at twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Fuck Kalaius Campbell read bad play that is an all
Pro play by an all Pro player.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Hen sacked at the fifteen yard line by Kalis Campbell.
Sacked again Kalaias Campbell was there, sacked again at the
twenty eight yard line, and it's Kaleis Campbell.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
If you guys won't have to learn any names or
numbers when it comes to the big man in the preseason.
You've been there and done that his entire Cardinals' career.
It is amazing some of the fun facts on Kaleis
Campbell aged thirty eight. He'll be thirty nine at some
point this season. Year eighteen, you realize Ron wilfully that
Kalais is eleven plus years older than his d line.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Coach he has that that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
He has nine block field goals in his career at
six foot eight, it makes sense that's the third most
in the NFL since nineteen seventy. He was a rookie
on the Cardinals' Super Bowl forty three team in the
two thousand and eight campaign. Kalais was on that team.
He was named the All Decade Team into the twenty tens.
So when you dropped earlier and Frosty Rutger mentioned earlier
(39:25):
as well, you know, the potential for the Pro Football
Hall of Fame facts. I mean, he's a six time
Pro Bowler with one hundred and ten and a half
career sacks that is the third most among active players
right now. He's third all time on the Cardinals franchise
all time sack list, behind Chandler Jones and Freddie Joe Nunn.
So there's all that, and there's a dude who started
all seventeen games each of the last two years for
(39:46):
Atlanta in Miami, and he comes in and think of
that d line room. Now, think of how deep that
position group is.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Wolf Pauly. First of all, I'm looking at Kalis Campbell
as a starter on the defensive line. Wow. You know,
I know you can look at it and say there's
a lot of competition that is there, and you are
right about that. But I think before it's all said
and done, I think Kalis Campbell is going to be
a starter on that defensive line. He's certainly capable of
(40:14):
doing that. Fifty two tackles last year, fifty two tackles
alone last year for Kalis Campbell, and five sacks as well.
This is a guy that is still a very productive
defensive lineman in the NFL. I don't know where they're
going to play him. This is what fascinates me. It's
going to be really interesting. Are you going to play
(40:36):
him as the three technique You're going to play him
over the guards outside shoulder, or are you going to
play him as a five technique a little bit more
over the outside shoulder of an offensive tackle, or maybe
a four I where you're just inside of that offensive tackle.
Where are they going to play Kaleis Campbell the most?
That is something that I am really looking forward to seeing.
(40:58):
But the one thing I do know about out this
this defensive line and this defense, the Arizona Cardinals defense
is going to be better in twenty twenty five because
of Kalais.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
And you know what, guys like Paris Johnson Junior, they
got a taste of Kalais Campbell last year Cardinals and
Dolphins mid season in Miami. And guess what, Paris Johnson Junior,
he was miked up.
Speaker 10 (41:26):
Come on, oh j he said, I was till young
o Ja Come on, oh Jake, Come on, oh Jake.
That's what I'm talking about, Oh Jake, get your hands up,
get your hands up.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
I would love to be there when Paris Johnson Junior
and Kalais Campbell reunite for the first time in the Cardinals'
locker room.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yes, Paully, do you have any idea what he was saying?
Get your hands up? Why he was saying that? Do
you have any idea? Not? Really? No, Okay, I can
I offer you something.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
For as someone Polly Pensilnik who's never played in the trenches,
please illuminate.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Me well as you would if you've already pointed out.
He's six'. Eight he's a big tree with. Arms that's
what he. Is and get your hands. Up get your hands,
up because maybe he was jabbing him in the ribs
when he'd put his hands. Up i'm just, saying, MAN
i would love to know why he's saying. That why
(42:24):
would you Encourage Kalaius campbell to put his hands? UP i,
mean especially because he is so good at batting balls.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
DOWN i, mean, look when you stand out in AN nfl,
HUDDLE i mean you are an ultra large human, being
and that Is Kalais. Campbell but back to your point
about you have him as a. Starter that's. Intriguing first,
off let me just say. THIS i, mean you look
at the end of last season and who The cardinals
had to suit up because of, injury, RIGHT i mean
you at the end of the last year Had Nakwon
(42:55):
jones And Kyrie's tonga and you, KNOW i Mean Roy
lopez had a great, year but he's. Gone and now
you're going to roll out, There Dalvin, Thomlinson Justin, Jones Blal,
Nichols Darius, ROBINSON. Lj collier is, Back Dante stills and
you Had Kaleus. CAMPBELL i, Mean, wolf how competitive is
that room right?
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Now it's. UNBELIEVABLE balli WHEN i think Of Justin, jones
this guy who played in three, games And Balal nichols
who played in six games as, well but Especially Justin,
JONES i was really curious to see what kind of
impact he was going to make with The cardinals front
seven and he only got to play in three. Games
(43:36):
Darius robinson right, now just the fact that he is so,
talented so. Young that's the other part about this that
we haven't talked. About Just Kalauis campbell Taking Darius robinson
under his wing literally and mentoring. Him how much better
Could Darius robinson be this season than he was his
(43:58):
rookie Ear we're going to find. Out but, man the
talent that is in the defensive line room right, now
it is as competitive AS i can, Remember.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Paulie and you got to give Many Assin ford and
jg credit, here. RIGHT i mean it's been like a
construction zone in THAT d line position. Group, YEAH i,
mean it's been like extreme MAKEOVER d. Line, addition they
got to put this like On home And Garden network
at this, point what they've done in THAT d line.
Room and to your point about the experience of a
thirty eight year old who's going into his eighteen. Season guess,
(44:29):
what they love their higher Coach debo as A d line.
Coach but he's twenty eight to twenty nine years old
and he was coaching in the college. Game so there
are certain things That kalayas can share with The Darius
robinson And Dante stills that you, know most other humans
in the planet. Cannot, yes that's got to be really,
beneficial by the, WAY.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I Want, YEAH i just want to say this, Quickly.
Pauli right, Here Kalis, Campbell Dalvin tomlinson over the, Nose Darius,
Robinson i'll take. It you know.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
What i'm on board with that as, well no. Doubt,
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