March 20, 2025 • 45 mins
Ep. 708 - Cardinals play-by-play voice Dave Pasch joins Paul Calvisi and Ron Wolfley to talk about several recent additions to the team via free agency including former Browns defensive lineman Dalvin Tomlinson and former Eagles pass rusher Josh Sweat. Plus, Calvisi and Wolf discuss needs and wants as the NFL Draft approaches, the offensive line and much more.
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The field you know here in March College hoops isn't
the only madness around here. You're kidding me. How about
NFL free agency the frenzy? That was right? I mean,
forget about building your sixty eighteen bracket. Wolf Can you
build a fifty three man roster and without using BPI
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or chat GPT or however you cheat over there when
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Okay.
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And it's not just about spending either, it's about spending wisely.
As we know in the Cardinals so far are in
the top ten of free agent expenditures this offseason. A
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Paul calvic here, and welcome back to Ron Wolfley. There,
Wolf how are we doing.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And we're doing really really well, PAULI thank you very much. Man.
I'm excited about this free agent period for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yeah, they checked a lot of boxes so far. So
let's just start at the very top. What stands out
to you the most. We got some big names and
some big dollars being spent as well.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah. You know, once again, for me, it's about the
line of scrimmage. When you're talking about Manti ausin Fort
and you're talking about JG specifically JG. Man, he loves
that dominance on the line of scrimmage. It's one of
the things I appreciate the most about him. Now that
doesn't mean that Jag doesn't want playmakers and guys who
are skilled and talented. Of course, he wants that like
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every other coach. But for me, there is a real
philosophy on this football team that football is played from
the line of scrimmage, from the line of scrimmage the
snap of the ball out. I agree with that philosophy,
and I love the fact they went out and they
addressed a real need getting Josh Sweat of course to
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line up on the edge, and Delvin Tomlinson. Those two
guys specifically, I think really increased the Arizona Cardinals front
seven and make it one of the deepest front sevens
that we've seen the Cardinals have in maybe ten twelve years.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
And you know what we're gonna hear from Dalvin Thomlinson
in a moment. Let me give you a quick thought
on Josh Sweat. Last week, we had a chance to
interview him right here in the Big Red Rage. Our
last question was about that whole narrative that the Eagles
defense is so talented that it's like the rising tide
that lifts all boats. And his response, I thought was interesting.
He said, Hey, yeah, we were talented, but let's not
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forget I led that defense in sacks. But at the
same time he said, I did that despite the fact
that we sacrifice for each other. That's how we won,
that's how we got a Lombardi Trophy in a ring.
And so if you think about that, he's only had
double digit sacks once in his career, is when JG
was a defensive coordinator. But a lot of people think
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he still has a lot of upside. Now that you
get him away from all that talent, he could be
featured a little more. He'll get even more snaps and
he'll be able to be featured a little bit more
by Nick Rowsis what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, Paully, No, there's no doubt about it. Josh I
think is a guy that is still finding his ceiling. Yeah,
that's what I think. I honestly think he still has
room to grow. Right now, you were talking about it. Yeah,
get I get the fact that he's been in the league.
This is going to be his eighth year coming up here.
But he's only twenty seven years old. Paul, Yeah, only
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twenty seven years old. If you look at it, the
last three or four seasons of Josh Sweat, he really
is developing he's kind of a late bloomer. To me,
he's been a late bloomer. He's developing right now. I
still think his ceiling is in front of him. Now.
Now once again, you know who knows he's got to
go do it, Pauli, There's no doubt about that. But man,
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the fact that you've got a bonafide edge guy, a
guy that I just want to say this, a guy
that had two and a half sacks in the Super Bowl,
pul I just just like saying that two and a
half sacks in the Super Bowl. Would you say that
was a big game. That was a big game, right, obviously,
and yet he went out and had a day with
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two and a half sacks. I love the fact that
he could do that as well and had a great
Super Bowl. But this guy is going to bring immediate
goodness to the Cardinals in the form of being able
to rush four and drop seven. You've heard me talk
about this, Polly, over and over and over again. It's
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very important. It's something that JG of course and Nick
Rollis were accustomed to back when they were with the Eagles,
rushing four and dropping seven and being able to get
pressure on an opposing quarterback. Will the Arizona Cardinals be
able to do that this year? That'd be awesome if
they were.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
And you know we're gonna ask Dave Pash about that
in the next segment. Day Pash our special guest on
tonight's edition to The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan
Ford and Gilbert. It's interesting to hear Joshua tell it.
The game plan in the Super Bowl is exactly what
JG did with him effect of twenty twenty one. Just
go just just be a savage, just go just straight
ahead football, and that's what he's looking forward to doing.
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At the same time, he says he can defend the run.
He is a three down player. That is exactly what
Dalvin Tomlinson specializes in, right, And he was asked during
his press conference, Dalvin Tomlinson, all right, how much pride
do you take in your run d.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I take a lot of pride in run stopping, just
because pass rushing is like the pinnacle, I guess you
could say of Dylon. But the thing is, we won't
be in a position actually pass rush if we don't
stop the run. Because every coach, no matter how new
or old coach you are, if the run's working, We're
not going to pass the ball. We're going to go
back to the run game. So I take a lot
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of pride in stopping the run just so me and
other guys can have opportunities to get sex.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It's remarkable the potential from last year to this year
in interior defensive line. When you consider that Blon Nichols
and Justin Jones play to combine nine games. Darius Robinson,
I mean he was never himself. He missed more than
half this season. Now, if all three of those guys
are healthy and you had Delvin Thomlinson, it can be
night and day in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, Paully, I would say this too. Don't forget about LJ. Collier.
I mean this guy. I love this guy from a
depth perspective. I think right now, beyond a shadow of
a doubt, the defensive line room is the most improved
position room on the Arizona Cardinals roster. It's not even
close to me a blown Nichols, As you said, Delvin Tomlinson,
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Justin Jones, Darius Robinson, these guys are This is deep it.
Dante Stills, by the way, yep, don't forget about Dante stills. Man,
it's West Virginia. Don't get me started, but you get
my point. This is a defensive line room that is very,
very deep, and I'm really excited for the Arizona Cardinals
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to see what kind of goodness that is going to bring.
Because again we were talking about this, but if you
can rush for imagine Josh Sweat coming off one side,
Glare coming off the other side. Maybe it's Darius Robinson
as well coming off the other side, Dalvin Tomlinson getting
that interior push. Man, it just I love the fact
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that Arizona Cardinals have gotten more physical this offseason. Right now,
will it turn into wins? We gotta wait and see.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And I know you've cited this Damn Thomlinson last year
for a three and fourteen Browns team that was missing
Miles Garrett quite a bit. Still set career highs and
QB hits, QB pressures, QB knockdowns. So he's coming off.
In fact, Rob Frederickson this week, and I think you
share this sentiment. You weren't even aware of what Rob
Frederickson said on the Red Sea Report. He doesn't know
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if there's a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson period
this offseason, including Josh Sweat, so really interesting. We'll get
some thoughts and insight from Dave Pash, Voice of the Cardinals. Next,
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Speaker 4 (09:11):
Let's got to throw flesher. He is jacked Dalvin Tomlinson
flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He is sid.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Tomlinson in trouble down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He comes down with thomainson there and the ball came
out Parks in trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
He is shot Josh Sweat with his sack and was
under pressure again swung down twenty nine yard line.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Josh Sweat here is hairs.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Again and he gets Wat just nowhere to go, and
Josh Sweat was there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Here's the homes pressure, I don't live in the head
is sick.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Josh Sweat gets home.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Here's the question Wolf, how many sacks? How many Josh
Sweat sacks? Well, the Voice of the Cardinals call this
upcoming season home man, Polly prop that over here, I'm
saying at least double digits, right, at least come on, now,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I was gonna say, Paulie, right there, I think twelve
twelve seems like a good lay amount.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
That'd be a career high as well. For Josh Sweat,
that's interesting, okay. In fact, if we had Dave Pash here,
we'd probably tell him, you know enough, sitting court side
and calling Lebron and Steph games, it's time to put
his hand back in the dirt. Talk some Cardinals off
season and free agency, and lo and behold. Dave Pash
is our guest here on the Big Red Rage, presented
by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Dave.
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Will you please put down the bracket and let's talk
some football?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you ready? You good?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Go?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Hey, Paulie, how are you? My question is how many
stacks of Josh Sweat is Wolf gonna call? Can we get?
Is it too late? Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes it is? It is that Chip has sailed my brother.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I know, man, Mom, happy for you. We're gonna miss you.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well appreciate it, David.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Maybe if we're lucky, you'll go Brett Farvan, You'll you'll
change your mind. Three more times before the season. All Right,
let's get into Josh Sweat. Let's pick it up from there.
I mean, Dave, was there an NFL team that had
a bigger need than the Arizona Cardinals for an edge rusher.
Was there an NFL team that in free agency got
a bigger name than Josh Sweat.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Big name, big signing. Obviously coming off a great year
individually collectively as a defense, and it was a big
need for the Cardinals. I wasn't sure if they would
look to address it in the draft or if they
would look in free agency. You have to assume that
bj Jalari is going to come back healthy, and you
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have David Collins, who I think showed that he could
be a solid rotational guy. And Darius Robinson, to me
still is the key because I think he's got a
world of talent. Last year was a lost year for
him with the injury and then just trying to get
adjusted to the NFL football in the last month of the
Sea was a lot to ask. But in terms of
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addressing the need, to me, it was the need on
this team. They certainly did that with Josh Sweat.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, Paul, I would definitely agree with what David is
talking about right now. Joshwatt really changes the dynamic of
the Arizona Cardinals defense overall. You know, one of the
things I love about him, guys, I think he's only
going to get better. I think he still has a
bit of a ceiling to reach right now. I know
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over the last three four years he's been pretty productive
in terms of getting to the quarterback. But I think
he is a late bloomer. I think he's a guy
that actually is getting better as the years pass by.
And to me, being twenty seven years old right now,
I mean he's going into his eighth year. It's pretty
incredible he's going into his eighth year, but he's still
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only twenty seven years old. That is one of the
reasons why I'm so bullish on this signing. David, what
did you think of Helvin Tomlinson in his signing.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
That to me was not as big as the Josh
Sweat news, but really big because of how good of
a player he is, but also just addressing again in
need and I think people forget maybe the Cardinals made
two signings at on the defensive line last year, so
you add another player as we watch with the Eagles,
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and really with any good NFL team, if you just
continue to role players in and out on the defensive line,
you're going to need him over the course of a
seventeen game schedule and a hopefully a handful of playoff game.
So the more depth of better on that d line.
And Tomlins has been a really good player in the
NFL for a while.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Hey, Dave Passion is our guest voice of the Cardinals
in the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert,
So it'd zoom out on that defensive front. To me,
the big question is what does this do for Nick
Rowlis guys and Dave in particular. I mean, we saw
what he was forced to do much of last season
and in terms of dialing it up right, eleven card
pickup guys could be anywhere at any time. But now,
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wait a minute, what if he has more of an
ability to do what Philly did in the Super Bowl
and that is get home with four? To me, that
just adds another layer, another dynamic, more possibilities for Nick
Rawlish when potentially he has that front that can get
to the quarterback, affect the quarterback with only four. Because
that's a radical departure from what he's had to do
the last two years.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And you know, when Jonathan Gannon took the job and said,
I'm not going to call the defense, I trust Nick Ralis.
Even though Rawless had not been a play caller yet
we've seen it play out though that Rawlis is as
good as anybody, just given what he had to work
with last year every week not knowing who is going
to be available and being able to just on the
fly week to week or sometimes in game when guys
would go down, and we saw how creative he can be.
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And I still feel like, you know, going back to
Darius Robinson, he potentially could be a game wrecker. I
think he's that good if he can get back to
where he was pre injury, and you need that guy.
I mean, Jalen Carter as good as the other players
that were with Philly. I mean it all started with
him up front. I don't know the Cardinals have that guy,
but they've got multiple players now in the D line
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that can give Rawlis an opportunity to just rush for.
You're not going to live there that maybe you're you
know that you're you're entree, but it's not going to
be every single play that you know you're just relying
on that you're going to still bring pressure and be
creative with what you're calling in terms of blitz packages.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So, David, when you look at the Arizona Cardinals free
agency at this point of free agency right now, what
do you think they still need? What are their needs
right now? Well?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
If I still feel like secondary is something that kind
of like going back to the D line, to me,
there's really three positions or three groups that you can
never have enough good players offensive line, defensive line, and
secondary because of how many teams use three four receivers now,
so you need to have multiple corners. I think the
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Cardinals have three to four either corner slash nickel guys.
Can they get another one? Can they get either a
star or a young player you know in the draft
that you think can develop into a star. You know,
with the play on words, you got Star Thomas, who
nobody thought much of a couple of years ago, but
he can be a really good NFL corner. So you
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add him to what they have with some of the
guys they've drafted and then Murphy Bunting and you know,
maybe a draft pick or another free agent signing. I
think that that's an area of need. I still think
wide receiver would love to see that room addressed. I
think you can live without having the greatest receiving corps
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if your quarterback's great and you've got Trey McBride and
your offensive line has improved. I don't think you necessarily
have to have the best receiving corps to be a
threat to go to the Super Bowl. And I don't
want to stunt Michael Wilson's growth there either, But I
do feel like if they can add somebody that's got
speed to that position group, that would be a plus.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
What about offensive guard? To both of you guys, in fact,
we'll start with you. Do you consider that right now
a need or a want? Evan Brown re signed? Obviously,
Will Hernandez unknown. All I've heard is he's ahead of
schedule in the rehab on the knee injury, which is
great news. No idea if he's going to be on
this roster going forward, what do you think? Obviously, Isaiah
Adams is a sleeper in year two, trying to put
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on some weight and strength. Where do you think money's
at at that position?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, PAULI that to me, that position is the biggest
area of need right now. That's the way that I
see it. Interior offensive line, and I'm talking more specifically
about the guard position. I think Will Hernandez, of course,
who knows what's going to happen there. I would love
to see them sign Will Hernandez a free agent, of course,
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but he's coming off of that knee. I'd love to
see if they could get a discount on him and
bring him back because I think offensive lineman can still
recover from acls and go out and be productive, no
doubt about that. But I think that is the biggest
area of need. I would say that. And inside linebacker
right now. I know they've signed a Keem Davis Gaither,
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I understand that, but I also think you need a
little depth right there. I wonder what they're going to
be doing for the inside linebacker position in terms of depth,
And is Kaiser White still a viable option? Are they
still talking to Kaiser White? Who knows what's gonna happen
with that? And then I can also say that guard,
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and when I think of the guards that are coming
up in this draft, I think of Tyler Booker, and
this is a guy that I think is falling down
draft boards because he ran a five three eight at
the combine and yet before the combine. When you watch
the tape, forget about the tape measure, bully. When you
watch the tape, Tyler Booker is a guy that is
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a mauler and a guy that was gonna go and
probably the first top half of the draft, and now
all of a sudden, he on many boards many analysts
at least, has dropped out of the first round. If
that is the case, I would love to see the
Arizona Cardinals get him. I'd take Tyler Booker. I'd take
him at sixteen right now, because he's the ward daddy
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JG wants to have at that guard position.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, what's interesting, You're right? I mean when the mock
draft started a month ago, he was going tenth overall
to Chicago, thirteenth overall to Miami. He wasn't even getting
to the Cardinals. Now now you can get him in
round two according to the mock drafts. Dave any thoughts
on guard and or maybe middle linebacker for this team.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, having Alabama a bunch the last couple of years,
I can speak to a wolf was talking about with
Booker and ultimately, do you really care what a guard
runs in the forty yard dash? You carry about can
can he wrecked? Wreck the line of scrimmage, open up whole,
protect Kyler Murray and run ten yards downfield to help block.
We don't necessarily need him to worry about forty yards sprint.
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I found it interesting that on the draft boards he dropped.
I wonder if he's really dropped in the draft rooms.
We're really mad, right, does Monty Austin Ford care if
the guy ran over a five, you know, as an
offensive guard for the forty yard dash? Maybe he does.
But Booker is a guy that you know. Alabama has
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got a pretty good tradition when it comes to offensive
lineman and success rate making the transition to the NFL.
And that's a player I like as well.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Dave Pash, our guest in the Big Red Rage, Dave,
what about corner back? Because now a lot of the
mock drafts have the Cardinals using the sixteenth pick overall
for a corner namely Will Johnson Michigan coming off an injury.
Big dude, six to two, I mean, really athletic wolf
Din melkiper Junior tell you this week he's like a
pick six waiting to happen. That That was Mel's quote.
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I don't know if you've see him much, Dave, but
overall we know that's JG's area of specialty corner. Do
you think this these decision makers value that position high
enough to go number sixteen overall?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Again, I don't think he can ever have too many
cover guys, and he's I didn't have Michigan this year,
but watching him on television over time, he stands out.
And you know, I don't have a problem necessarily picking
a guy that is coming off an injury. Garrett Williams
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is coming off an injury, but he was a third
round pick. Maybe it's different if you're taking a guy
in the top twenty that's coming off an injury. But
he is a guy that definitely stands out. I think
there are a few guys that really stand out that
you could see the Cardinals taken in the middle of
the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Can I just jump in here and say that will
Johnson was so fascinating about him, PAULI is the fact
that he's six too. He's six too when he's over
two hundred pounds. You were talking, Paulie about a big,
big corner. And what mel kiper Junior actually told us
on the Wolf and Luke Show. Of course, he told
us that he's the best anticipatory corner he has seen
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in years. Now, What did he mean by that, Paul,
He's talking about a corner that plays in his zone
room and can actually jump a lot of route combinations.
He said, he's a pick six, as you said, waiting
to happen right here, but anticipatory corner. It was the
first time I think I've ever heard that kind of
terminology and it was from mel kiper Junior about Will
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Johnson in the fact that he is a guy that
does really, really well in zone cover. Does that sound
like something that would interest Nick Rolis and Jag Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
When you paint that picture, I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey.
I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey of the Dolphins and
being on the sideline and going, man, that dude's a corner.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Battling Marvin Harrison Junior? Al Right, my last question of
Dave Pash Voice of the Car As you do a
lot of college games, I always like to get your
thoughts on quarterback real quick. I mean does it go
beyond the top two? Cam Ward Shador Sanders. What do
you think about Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck? What do you
think about those guys at.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Both over the years?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Had Jackson Dart I think three times this past year.
I'm not sure about you first round, but I could
see both those guys going later. Had cam Ward this
year clearly the best quarterback to me in the draft.
But I really like Shadar Sanders a lot. I like
him as a guy, I like him as a player,
and I think I know there's a lot of rumors
that he's dropping, but he's somebody that if I need
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a quarterback, even if you're not sure how much, he
can help you right away because of his work, ethic,
his intelligence and his talent. I'm taking him high in
the draft. Dave, love it.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Love the expertise and the insight. We're gonna lean on
you as we get close to the draft. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Hi, fella's good talking to you.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
There we go, Dave Pash. We continue and we'll talk
quarterback Jacoby Brissett. Next on the big Red Rage.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Persett lifts his right Lene they show Blitz. Here they come.
Jacoby back up in the pocket looking throwing Cooper's open.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
He's up in the hurry Cotton in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Touchdown Hombory Cooper per set shotgun with hunch on his left,
him percent looking up in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
He's gonna run and then.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
He thinks he runs track.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
He's got the end zone.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Heady links in touchdown.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Jacoby Brussette.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
In my role throughout my career, I think you find
different ways to help not only myself but other guys
around me, and you figure that out as the year
goes on, and uh, you know, the good things you
continue to do and the bad things you just learn
from it to get better from it.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's Jacoby Brssett, Cardinals, q B two, A proven commodity
in this league, well known to those who are in
charge of the Arizona Cardinals, considering that he has ties
to the offensive coordinator Drew Patts and the quarterbacks coach
Israel Woolford. Jonathan Gannon himself. They were together in Indie
once upon a time, Fanny aasen Ford when he was
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in New England, so a lot of familiarity and there's
a reason that he signed on the line that has
dotted Jacoby Brissett. As we say, welcome back into the
Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We
are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley our guest. Last week,
wolf Drew Stanton Carent, former Cardinals backup quarterback, said he
actually sent a text to the front office congratulating the
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decision makers on what he called an A plus signing
in Jacoby Brissett. You know, Drew and how much he
values that position. Not only you know, in case of emergency,
breake Glass, you want a guy who's capable and can
get you out of a game and gets you a win. Yeah,
but what the backup can do for the starter and
the entire offense. So what sort of value do you
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attach to this sort of signing?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, Paul, you know, I mean, just looking at Kyler
Murray and his injury situation, It's not like he's missed
a ton of games. I mean, we all understand when
you blow your ACL out, you blow your ACL out, Yeah,
and you're going to miss a lot of stuff. It's
not like Kyler is a guy that habitually has injury issues.
Yet at the same time, you're this is the National
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Football League and man, you better have a backup that
can come into games, as you said, Pauli, and get
you out of games. I love this signing by the
Arizona Cardinals because of Drew Petsing, because of his knowledge,
of course, with Jacoby Brissett in twenty twenty two with
the Cleveland Browns. I love that, Puali. I think that's
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really really important going forward. And I also like the
fact too that I don't think the Arizona Cardinals are
going to have to change their offense a lot or
the nature of their offense. I think Jacoby prissaid, although
he's not a guy that has the wheels like Kyler
Murray has, he is a guy that can still be
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that dual threat quarterback. He does run the ball when
he has to run the ball, and does a good
job of it as well. He's got fifteen touchdowns in
his career. He's a guy that back in twenty twenty
two with the Browns rush for over two hundred yards
two hundred and forty three yards as a matter of fact.
So this is a guy that can actually do that
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orchestrate the modern day offense and the National Football League
where you can blend the old and the new, the
two different schemes, the new schemes with the old schemes.
I think Jacoby Brissett embodies that and actually allows the
Cardinals to keep the same kind of offense going forward
if Kyler Murray ever does go down.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, his fifty three career starts. He got them out
of a game late October, New England where he came
back in the second half, especially the fourth quarter, two
late scoring drives and they beat the Jets, and that
that was a big win and really showed what he's
capable of. Well, there was Jacoby Brissett not long after
signing the line that has dotted with our Zach Gershman
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and they sat down to go one on one and
they were talking about the whole free agency process to start.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
When the free agency process began, what were you looking
for in a team and why were the Cardinals to
right fit for you?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, I think it all boiled down to, you know,
people that I wanted to go to work with. Obviously
I had a history with Israel and Drew Petsing and
obviously JG when he was an indie. I think those
were the driving forces for me, and that's what made
this place attracted to me.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Drew Pets and he was your quarterbacks coach in Cleveland,
where you started eleven games with the Browns. What is
it about his coaching style that you gravitated towards.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
His mindset going into games? You know, how he breaks
everything down and makes it simple for the quarterback to play.
I think when I was playing there, I think I
was playing really good ball. And you know, the way
he handled the meeting rooms and things like that, it
definitely helped me, you know, towards the field.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Towards the back end of the season. Last year, you
were at State Farm Stadium for the Patriots versus the Cardinals.
I know you're on the up posing sidelines, and the
Cardinals came away with the win. But when you were
watching that game and even leading up to it as
you were prepping for the Cardinals, what'd you see from
the Cardinals offense and defense that stood out to you?
Speaker 8 (28:54):
You know, obviously on office a lot of explosive players,
and it was kind of cool to see all the
ways that Drew kind of used Cleveland offense and fit
the players into the system and kind of built around
the guys that he has here. So you know that
was that was very exciting. I was trying to call
the plays from the sideline and see if I was
getting them right. And then obviously the defense was always
tough to go against. You know, you got a guy
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at least like Buddha. You know, you know, it's a
lot of fun to watch him, and obviously as an
opposing player, it's very tough to go against him.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
So you now enter this quarterback room with guys like Kyler, Murray,
Clayton Tune, knowing that you're the veteran in that room,
considering you have the most experience in the league, how
do you think you could compliment both of those two players.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I think when you get in those rooms, you just
got to figure it out as you go. You know,
obviously want to bring some insight, and obviously, you know,
helped our room be the best room in the league
and play good football. And I think that's what it
all boils down too.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
You know, it's interesting. I've cited the Boston media to
a man said that Drake may loved him that even
though Jacoby Brissett lost his starting gig Week six to
the rookie, he was really good in the room. Did
everything he could to mentor young Drake May. That obviously
is critical and the whole equation. Drew Stan talked about
that last week. He also talked about you have to
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be ready to go when you get virtually no reps
during the practice week. So the fact that he's got
ten years in the league, almost half of those years
he was a starting quarterback once again if in need,
combined with the fact that Wolf he has an historically
low career interception percentage. So let's say you need him
and you have a top ten, top five run game
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like the Cardinals have had two years running, he can
definitely engineer some wins for this team if called upon.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, no, if called upon, that's exactly what he can do. Pauline,
You're right about that. You've got to have that expectation
out of your backup quarterback. I've told you there are
two times where heads will snap up in the huddle.
Number one one a legend steps into the huddle to
call play. And number two, when the backup quarterback steps
in to call a play, your head will snap up
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and you're gonna be looking at the guy like are
you okay? Are you gonna be okay? Right now? Because
We know you didn't get a ton of reps during practice,
and you know what, we got to go win this game.
Are you all right? You know it's not going to
be too big for Jacoby Brissett at all. He's going
to be able to step into that huddle and command
that huddle, and that's not going to be a surprise
to anybody that might be in that huddle right now.
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I think it's also very, very important that he has
a familiarity with his offense that he can actually help
share with Kyler Murray and help his growth and his
development as well. But Jacoby Brisset, from what I've seen
in the past, when I've seen him on the sideline,
he's always in the ear of the starting quarterback. And
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I wonder if he's going to do the same with
Kyler Murray because he's got a lot to say, He's
got a lot of wisdom, he's got a lot of poise,
and I wonder if he can help Kyler develop a
little bit more of that as well.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, And if you think that, look the evolution of
Kyler's game where he can really elevate his game in
year seven is just recognizing defenses right quickly, being able
to read and react. You gotta figure Jacoby Brissett's going
to be your real asset in that department, speaking of
the huddle and playing quarterback and going to the line
of scrimmage. Offensive line obviously is a big asset. We'll
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see if the Cardinals go that direction in the draft.
We'll see there are still some potential starting guards out
there that are in play. We'll see about that. But
what you want to see more than anything else, Wolf,
is a healthy offensive line. Don't know if you had
a chance to catch Acycardinals dot Com Darren Rbant in
his post earlier today where he cited how the two
thousand and eight Super Bowl team you're very familiar with
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that you called every single game. Do you realize over
sixteen regular season games, in four playoff games all the
way to Super Bowl forty three, the same starting five
and the offensive line started every single game.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know what, Paly, Honestly, I don't remember that.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I knew they were intact. I didn't know they started
all twenty games. And the reason you brought that up is,
if if there's one thing you can wish for this year,
it's the health of the old line, because Cardinals didn't
have a single combination of five guys last year that
even started twenty percent of the games.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That's just that's just crazy right there. It really is. Listen.
I honestly think going into the draft, this is the
one thing I'm going to be looking at. An interior
offensive lineman selected high. Whether it's in the first round,
the second round, whatever it may be. I think Manti
Asenford is going to continue to improve it. You know,
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the spirit position of JG is the offensive line. That's
what he wants. He talks about it all the time,
and that's where I think the Arizona Cardinals truly can
get better in the draft. I know that you don't
want to depend on a rookie, a young guy like that,
but I think there's a guy that is out there
that could be available to the Arizona Cardinals, whether it's
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at sixteen or they're going to trade down Tyler Booker.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
More big red Rage. Right after this, we Scott to
throw lasher.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He is Jack Dalvin Tomlinson flying through the middle at
a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
His sign.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Thomlinson don't in trouble downy cos Dalvin Tomlinson there and the.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ball came out.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Dalton Man bron down again, Dalvin Tomlin said.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Fields from a clean pocket, nobody open.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Now the pocket collapses of Downy goes, the ball is out,
Dalvin Tomlin.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Said, with the strip sack Boomer round two pick, former
member of an Alabama defensive line room that included Jonathan
Allen and Deron Payne and A'shawn Robinson. I mean, just absurd.
It was sort of like when Kenyon Drake showed up
right and came to the Cardinals and he talked about
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how in his Alabama running back room there was Derrick Henry,
Alvin Kamara, TJ. Yeldon who was a high second round pick.
I just did the talent that's going through the that
program during those times and in area is two years,
twenty nine million, sixteen million guaranteed. Reportedly, Cardinals make a
big investment in a big man. Dalvin Tomlinson. As we're
wrapping up the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
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in Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley and wolf you know,
I mean, look, there were times last year where the
Cardinals went against three techniques and nose tackles who are
a serious headache. I'm thinking about the two Seattle games
with Leonard Williams. I mean, there's only so many things
you can do as an offensive coordinator to try and
nullify a really disruptive three technique or nose tackle, and
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the Cardinals certainly hope they got one now in Dalvin Tomlinson.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, PAULI, you know, once again, this was my favorite signing,
Dalvin Tomlinson. It was I know that Josh Sweat was
a bigger need and there's no doubt about that they
needed an edge guy that could come in and produce.
And I think Josh Sweat was a great signing, no
doubt about it. For me personally, you know me, I
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want the big Harry, give you the big nasty the
guy who's going to line up over the center in
a one technique or line up over the outside shoulder
of a guard in a three technique and create that
interior push that the Arizona Cardinals really need, and that
is something that's a three technique can really do. You've
heard me say this before, Polly, but it's the truth.
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There's nothing more destructive in the football universe than a
three technique. Dalvin Tomlinson is a guy that did an
awesome job of getting quarterback hits last year when he
was thirty one years old, getting quarterback hits and not
only that pressures on the quarterback, he set career highs
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for each one of those last year. This tells me
this guy is still a work in progress as well.
He's only thirty one years old, and we've seen many
three techniques, many nose tackles go into thirty three, thirty
four somewhere in that vicinity before they started to take
a step back.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
See, we have a pattern here. Guys who played the game,
who had NFL careers, they like this Dalvin Tomlinson signing
the most. Rob Frederickson said, I don't know if there's
a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson. Kyle Vannibosch talking
about Look, the three years that I went to the
Pro Bowl, you know who my interior defensive linemen were,
Albert Hansworth and then and Dominic can Sue. So they
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know how vital it is to have that guy. And
we had Dalvin Tomlinson himself as a guest on Cardinals
Cover Too, the podcast with Craig Griolou and Yours truly,
and we just started by asking him why the Cardinals
the scheme.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I looked into the scheme, I felt like I was
I would be a good fit in the interior of
the scheme and making plays, and I saw what the
Cardinals was trying to build and everything, and I just
felt like what the culture they already have here and
the guys they are bringing in has a perfect fick
for me.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
What specifically from watching this defense do you think you
might have the biggest disruption, whether that's the run or
the I.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Feel like a little bit of both, especially the run game,
just because the noseguard gets freed up with a lot
of one on ones. That's very dangerous, I would say,
And I in the past it was just the biggest
thing is all the RPOs and play action passes in
the game. These days, I feel like I make a
big impact in that field.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
You mentioned earlier about the pass rush that you felt
like there was an elevation to your pass rush last season.
What specifics did you learn or did you show out
on the football.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Field last year.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I would say it's mostly technical stuff with hands and feet,
flipping the hips, like stopping the run and being disruptive
in the run game and starting with power and go
to finesse and things like that. No one went to
mix things up in the pass rush. It just makes
me feel like I was more versatile last year, and
I was actually getting a lot of good hits on
quarterbacks last year as a big guy.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Yeah, it says here, I'm looking at your analytics. You
had career highs and quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback knockdowns.
Were you getting a little extra attention towards the end
of the year. Was that showing up on film?
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Oh yeah, for sure. You know, you only could give
me so much attention when I have Miles over there
expecting the same thing with sweating man. And yeah, you know,
as a big guy, you know, I'm used to double
teams and stuff like that, and a lot of the
pass rushes I had when I was getting those hits,
so I was had to defeat double teams.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
And you know what, I threw those stats out there.
But at your position, when you're commanding a double team,
you're at the epicenter of the d line. I mean,
stats don't always tell the story right as to whether
you're effective at your job description. So what do you value.
How do you assess your own play when you're right there,
especially when you're playing the nose or the three technique.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Like stat's not everything going to interior just because like
if I have a defensive end next to me, every
year it gets ten plus sacks. I'm happy because I'm
doing my job because I'm helping him get up free.
So if I can help the guys around me be
productive and successful, I'm doing my job as well.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
We also asked him, all right, when you're making place,
what's your favorite play to make, and we gave him
a few options. He said, oh yeah, knocking the center
on his keyster and then if I can go ahead
and force a fumble after that, that would be the combo.
That's the combo platter for me. That's what he enjoys
the most. But you can, you can just just sitting
down with a wolf, you know, just his energy is
love for the game and his willingness to do the
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dirty work inside and is a three time state champion
wrestler in high school.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Sixty three three. I just love that.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
I just think he's so well equipped for that position.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, I just want to say this quickly as well
to some of the best combinations have been a three
technique and in edge rusher. Some of the best combinations
in terms of generating pressure and working together that three
technique Leonard Marshall and Lawrence Taylor. Have you heard of
those guys play, Yeah, Leonard Marshall of course, the three
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technique on the inside in Lawrence Taylor. Those two guys
working in unison created so much havoc in the National
Football League. And I honestly believe once again that the
Arizona Cardinals have Josh Sweat and now Tomlinson and who knows,
who knows who else, maybe bj Ojalari, maybe Darius Robinson
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on the outside of Dalvin Tomlinson. Maybe they'll actually work
together and create this force of coming off and running
schemes together. It's one of the things that I really
look forward to, the stunts that they're going to be running,
Darius Robinson of course, and Dalvin Tomlinson together, the stunts
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they may be running, whether it's interior stunts or exterior,
it's going to be really cool to watch the chemistry
come together.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
And then the Cardinals investment. Baron Browning, he said he
was never healthy all last year. He finished with a flourish.
Bjo Jelai was having a great camp till he went down.
So yeah, there's possibilities and there is maybe the ability
to bring a lot of these guys in waves, not
unlike what the Eagles did, especially in the Super Bowl.
So look, you can cram it vertical on both sides
of the line. That's the defense offense. Well, did you
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see the stat that came out earlier this week and
third Team put out the running backs of the highest
percentage of their rush is going for ten plus yards
last season. Number one Jamier gives the Lion sixteen point
four percent. Number two James Connor fourteen point four percent
of his runs went for ten or more yards. That's
at a Derrick Henry Saquon Barkley Fries Hall. Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Boy, that is so impressive right there, especially because again
the offensive line. I think the offensive line for the
Arizona Cardinals is only going to be better this season.
It's not a surprise to me that James Connor is
mentioned at the very top in the National Football League
and running the football and explosive plays. We've all seen that,
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of course, but at the same time, knowing all the
injuries they had on the offensive line and that's only
going to get better hopefully going forward. I think that's very,
very encouraging. You know.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
It's also interesting the Big twelve Pro Day has been
the last couple of days Arizona State involved in that. Now,
Cam Skataboo did not participate, but his head coach, Kenny
Dillingham won on NFL Network and said, you know, his
comp for Cam Scataboo Maurice Jones Drew, who led the
NFL in rushing one year with over sixteen hundred yards.
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That five eight five nine and a half type stature right,
the ability to take contact contact, balance, just the leg drive.
Give us a quick thought on Cam Scataboo And where
do you think he's gonna go? Do you have a
gut feeling on him?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't, Paully, I don't. I just know that somebody's
gonna draft him higher than a lot of the draft
analysts will suspect. That's what I think, whether it's in
the third round, Paulie, maybe the fourth round. But I
think a lot of people going into last year didn't
really have Cam Scataboo rated high. He was going to
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be a guy that might be a sixth round pick
seventh round pick somewhere in that vicinity. He definitely has
improved that. As we all know, he's one of the
best running backs in my opinion, in the country right now. Man,
would you love to see James Connor and camscat it.
I would love to see it, Seriously, I would love
to see that. I just don't think he's going to
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be around well.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
And that combined with the fact Cardinals are pretty set,
pretty loaded in the running back room, right, I mean,
they re upped James Connor, Trey Benson really flashed mid season,
and then of course Amari de Mercado, great third down back,
underrated as a receiver as well.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Out of the backfield.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
DJ Dallas, I mean, he's on this team, he's not
going anywhere, and great teams guy, So it would be
surprising if he ended up in a Cardinals uniform. But
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The field you know here in March College hoops isn't
the only madness around here. You're kidding me. How about
NFL free agency the frenzy? That was right? I mean,
forget about building your sixty eighteen bracket. Wolf Can you
build a fifty three man roster and without using BPI
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Okay.
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And it's not just about spending either, it's about spending wisely.
As we know in the Cardinals so far are in
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Wolf how are we doing.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And we're doing really really well, PAULI thank you very much. Man.
I'm excited about this free agent period for the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yeah, they checked a lot of boxes so far. So
let's just start at the very top. What stands out
to you the most. We got some big names and
some big dollars being spent as well.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah. You know, once again, for me, it's about the
line of scrimmage. When you're talking about Manti ausin Fort
and you're talking about JG specifically JG. Man, he loves
that dominance on the line of scrimmage. It's one of
the things I appreciate the most about him. Now that
doesn't mean that Jag doesn't want playmakers and guys who
are skilled and talented. Of course, he wants that like
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every other coach. But for me, there is a real
philosophy on this football team that football is played from
the line of scrimmage, from the line of scrimmage the
snap of the ball out. I agree with that philosophy,
and I love the fact they went out and they
addressed a real need getting Josh Sweat of course to
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line up on the edge, and Delvin Tomlinson. Those two
guys specifically, I think really increased the Arizona Cardinals front
seven and make it one of the deepest front sevens
that we've seen the Cardinals have in maybe ten twelve years.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
And you know what we're gonna hear from Dalvin Thomlinson
in a moment. Let me give you a quick thought
on Josh Sweat. Last week, we had a chance to
interview him right here in the Big Red Rage. Our
last question was about that whole narrative that the Eagles
defense is so talented that it's like the rising tide
that lifts all boats. And his response, I thought was interesting.
He said, Hey, yeah, we were talented, but let's not
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forget I led that defense in sacks. But at the
same time he said, I did that despite the fact
that we sacrifice for each other. That's how we won,
that's how we got a Lombardi Trophy in a ring.
And so if you think about that, he's only had
double digit sacks once in his career, is when JG
was a defensive coordinator. But a lot of people think
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he still has a lot of upside. Now that you
get him away from all that talent, he could be
featured a little more. He'll get even more snaps and
he'll be able to be featured a little bit more
by Nick Rowsis what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, Paully, No, there's no doubt about it. Josh I
think is a guy that is still finding his ceiling. Yeah,
that's what I think. I honestly think he still has
room to grow. Right now, you were talking about it. Yeah,
get I get the fact that he's been in the league.
This is going to be his eighth year coming up here.
But he's only twenty seven years old. Paul, Yeah, only
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twenty seven years old. If you look at it, the
last three or four seasons of Josh Sweat, he really
is developing he's kind of a late bloomer. To me,
he's been a late bloomer. He's developing right now. I
still think his ceiling is in front of him. Now.
Now once again, you know who knows he's got to
go do it, Pauli, There's no doubt about that. But man,
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the fact that you've got a bonafide edge guy, a
guy that I just want to say this, a guy
that had two and a half sacks in the Super Bowl,
pul I just just like saying that two and a
half sacks in the Super Bowl. Would you say that
was a big game. That was a big game, right, obviously,
and yet he went out and had a day with
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two and a half sacks. I love the fact that
he could do that as well and had a great
Super Bowl. But this guy is going to bring immediate
goodness to the Cardinals in the form of being able
to rush four and drop seven. You've heard me talk
about this, Polly, over and over and over again. It's
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very important. It's something that JG of course and Nick
Rollis were accustomed to back when they were with the Eagles,
rushing four and dropping seven and being able to get
pressure on an opposing quarterback. Will the Arizona Cardinals be
able to do that this year? That'd be awesome if
they were.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
And you know we're gonna ask Dave Pash about that
in the next segment. Day Pash our special guest on
tonight's edition to The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan
Ford and Gilbert. It's interesting to hear Joshua tell it.
The game plan in the Super Bowl is exactly what
JG did with him effect of twenty twenty one. Just
go just just be a savage, just go just straight
ahead football, and that's what he's looking forward to doing.
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At the same time, he says he can defend the run.
He is a three down player. That is exactly what
Dalvin Tomlinson specializes in, right, And he was asked during
his press conference, Dalvin Tomlinson, all right, how much pride
do you take in your run d.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I take a lot of pride in run stopping, just
because pass rushing is like the pinnacle, I guess you
could say of Dylon. But the thing is, we won't
be in a position actually pass rush if we don't
stop the run. Because every coach, no matter how new
or old coach you are, if the run's working, We're
not going to pass the ball. We're going to go
back to the run game. So I take a lot
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of pride in stopping the run just so me and
other guys can have opportunities to get sex.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
It's remarkable the potential from last year to this year
in interior defensive line. When you consider that Blon Nichols
and Justin Jones play to combine nine games. Darius Robinson,
I mean he was never himself. He missed more than
half this season. Now, if all three of those guys
are healthy and you had Delvin Thomlinson, it can be
night and day in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, Paully, I would say this too. Don't forget about LJ. Collier.
I mean this guy. I love this guy from a
depth perspective. I think right now, beyond a shadow of
a doubt, the defensive line room is the most improved
position room on the Arizona Cardinals roster. It's not even
close to me a blown Nichols, As you said, Delvin Tomlinson,
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Justin Jones, Darius Robinson, these guys are This is deep it.
Dante Stills, by the way, yep, don't forget about Dante stills. Man,
it's West Virginia. Don't get me started, but you get
my point. This is a defensive line room that is very,
very deep, and I'm really excited for the Arizona Cardinals
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to see what kind of goodness that is going to bring.
Because again we were talking about this, but if you
can rush for imagine Josh Sweat coming off one side,
Glare coming off the other side. Maybe it's Darius Robinson
as well coming off the other side, Dalvin Tomlinson getting
that interior push. Man, it just I love the fact
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that Arizona Cardinals have gotten more physical this offseason. Right now,
will it turn into wins? We gotta wait and see.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And I know you've cited this Damn Thomlinson last year
for a three and fourteen Browns team that was missing
Miles Garrett quite a bit. Still set career highs and
QB hits, QB pressures, QB knockdowns. So he's coming off.
In fact, Rob Frederickson this week, and I think you
share this sentiment. You weren't even aware of what Rob
Frederickson said on the Red Sea Report. He doesn't know
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if there's a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson period
this offseason, including Josh Sweat, so really interesting. We'll get
some thoughts and insight from Dave Pash, Voice of the Cardinals. Next,
it is the big red range presented by Santan Forward
in Gilbert thirty six.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It is Jackson always passed again afflicted.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It is pecked at the.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Fenty seven d the team Davis Cather.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Let's got to throw flesher. He is jacked Dalvin Tomlinson
flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He is sid.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Tomlinson in trouble down.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He comes down with thomainson there and the ball came
out Parks in trouble.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
He is shot Josh Sweat with his sack and was
under pressure again swung down twenty nine yard line.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Josh Sweat here is hairs.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Again and he gets Wat just nowhere to go, and
Josh Sweat was there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Here's the homes pressure, I don't live in the head
is sick.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Josh Sweat gets home.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Here's the question Wolf, how many sacks? How many Josh
Sweat sacks? Well, the Voice of the Cardinals call this
upcoming season home man, Polly prop that over here, I'm
saying at least double digits, right, at least come on, now,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I was gonna say, Paulie, right there, I think twelve
twelve seems like a good lay amount.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
That'd be a career high as well. For Josh Sweat,
that's interesting, okay. In fact, if we had Dave Pash here,
we'd probably tell him, you know enough, sitting court side
and calling Lebron and Steph games, it's time to put
his hand back in the dirt. Talk some Cardinals off
season and free agency, and lo and behold. Dave Pash
is our guest here on the Big Red Rage, presented
by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Dave.
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Will you please put down the bracket and let's talk
some football?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Are you ready? You good?
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Go?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Hey, Paulie, how are you? My question is how many
stacks of Josh Sweat is Wolf gonna call? Can we get?
Is it too late? Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yes it is? It is that Chip has sailed my brother.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I know, man, Mom, happy for you. We're gonna miss you.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well appreciate it, David.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Maybe if we're lucky, you'll go Brett Farvan, You'll you'll
change your mind. Three more times before the season. All Right,
let's get into Josh Sweat. Let's pick it up from there.
I mean, Dave, was there an NFL team that had
a bigger need than the Arizona Cardinals for an edge rusher.
Was there an NFL team that in free agency got
a bigger name than Josh Sweat.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Big name, big signing. Obviously coming off a great year
individually collectively as a defense, and it was a big
need for the Cardinals. I wasn't sure if they would
look to address it in the draft or if they
would look in free agency. You have to assume that
bj Jalari is going to come back healthy, and you
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have David Collins, who I think showed that he could
be a solid rotational guy. And Darius Robinson, to me
still is the key because I think he's got a
world of talent. Last year was a lost year for
him with the injury and then just trying to get
adjusted to the NFL football in the last month of the
Sea was a lot to ask. But in terms of
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addressing the need, to me, it was the need on
this team. They certainly did that with Josh Sweat.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, Paul, I would definitely agree with what David is
talking about right now. Joshwatt really changes the dynamic of
the Arizona Cardinals defense overall. You know, one of the
things I love about him, guys, I think he's only
going to get better. I think he still has a
bit of a ceiling to reach right now. I know
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over the last three four years he's been pretty productive
in terms of getting to the quarterback. But I think
he is a late bloomer. I think he's a guy
that actually is getting better as the years pass by.
And to me, being twenty seven years old right now,
I mean he's going into his eighth year. It's pretty
incredible he's going into his eighth year, but he's still
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only twenty seven years old. That is one of the
reasons why I'm so bullish on this signing. David, what
did you think of Helvin Tomlinson in his signing.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
That to me was not as big as the Josh
Sweat news, but really big because of how good of
a player he is, but also just addressing again in
need and I think people forget maybe the Cardinals made
two signings at on the defensive line last year, so
you add another player as we watch with the Eagles,
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and really with any good NFL team, if you just
continue to role players in and out on the defensive line,
you're going to need him over the course of a
seventeen game schedule and a hopefully a handful of playoff game.
So the more depth of better on that d line.
And Tomlins has been a really good player in the
NFL for a while.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Hey, Dave Passion is our guest voice of the Cardinals
in the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert,
So it'd zoom out on that defensive front. To me,
the big question is what does this do for Nick
Rowlis guys and Dave in particular. I mean, we saw
what he was forced to do much of last season
and in terms of dialing it up right, eleven card
pickup guys could be anywhere at any time. But now,
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wait a minute, what if he has more of an
ability to do what Philly did in the Super Bowl
and that is get home with four? To me, that
just adds another layer, another dynamic, more possibilities for Nick
Rawlish when potentially he has that front that can get
to the quarterback, affect the quarterback with only four. Because
that's a radical departure from what he's had to do
the last two years.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And you know, when Jonathan Gannon took the job and said,
I'm not going to call the defense, I trust Nick Ralis.
Even though Rawless had not been a play caller yet
we've seen it play out though that Rawlis is as
good as anybody, just given what he had to work
with last year every week not knowing who is going
to be available and being able to just on the
fly week to week or sometimes in game when guys
would go down, and we saw how creative he can be.
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And I still feel like, you know, going back to
Darius Robinson, he potentially could be a game wrecker. I
think he's that good if he can get back to
where he was pre injury, and you need that guy.
I mean, Jalen Carter as good as the other players
that were with Philly. I mean it all started with
him up front. I don't know the Cardinals have that guy,
but they've got multiple players now in the D line
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that can give Rawlis an opportunity to just rush for.
You're not going to live there that maybe you're you
know that you're you're entree, but it's not going to
be every single play that you know you're just relying
on that you're going to still bring pressure and be
creative with what you're calling in terms of blitz packages.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So, David, when you look at the Arizona Cardinals free
agency at this point of free agency right now, what
do you think they still need? What are their needs
right now? Well?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
If I still feel like secondary is something that kind
of like going back to the D line, to me,
there's really three positions or three groups that you can
never have enough good players offensive line, defensive line, and
secondary because of how many teams use three four receivers now,
so you need to have multiple corners. I think the
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Cardinals have three to four either corner slash nickel guys.
Can they get another one? Can they get either a
star or a young player you know in the draft
that you think can develop into a star. You know,
with the play on words, you got Star Thomas, who
nobody thought much of a couple of years ago, but
he can be a really good NFL corner. So you
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add him to what they have with some of the
guys they've drafted and then Murphy Bunting and you know,
maybe a draft pick or another free agent signing. I
think that that's an area of need. I still think
wide receiver would love to see that room addressed. I
think you can live without having the greatest receiving corps
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if your quarterback's great and you've got Trey McBride and
your offensive line has improved. I don't think you necessarily
have to have the best receiving corps to be a
threat to go to the Super Bowl. And I don't
want to stunt Michael Wilson's growth there either, But I
do feel like if they can add somebody that's got
speed to that position group, that would be a plus.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
What about offensive guard? To both of you guys, in fact,
we'll start with you. Do you consider that right now
a need or a want? Evan Brown re signed? Obviously,
Will Hernandez unknown. All I've heard is he's ahead of
schedule in the rehab on the knee injury, which is
great news. No idea if he's going to be on
this roster going forward, what do you think? Obviously, Isaiah
Adams is a sleeper in year two, trying to put
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on some weight and strength. Where do you think money's
at at that position?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, PAULI that to me, that position is the biggest
area of need right now. That's the way that I
see it. Interior offensive line, and I'm talking more specifically
about the guard position. I think Will Hernandez, of course,
who knows what's going to happen there. I would love
to see them sign Will Hernandez a free agent, of course,
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but he's coming off of that knee. I'd love to
see if they could get a discount on him and
bring him back because I think offensive lineman can still
recover from acls and go out and be productive, no
doubt about that. But I think that is the biggest
area of need. I would say that. And inside linebacker
right now. I know they've signed a Keem Davis Gaither,
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I understand that, but I also think you need a
little depth right there. I wonder what they're going to
be doing for the inside linebacker position in terms of depth,
And is Kaiser White still a viable option? Are they
still talking to Kaiser White? Who knows what's gonna happen
with that? And then I can also say that guard,
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and when I think of the guards that are coming
up in this draft, I think of Tyler Booker, and
this is a guy that I think is falling down
draft boards because he ran a five three eight at
the combine and yet before the combine. When you watch
the tape, forget about the tape measure, bully. When you
watch the tape, Tyler Booker is a guy that is
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a mauler and a guy that was gonna go and
probably the first top half of the draft, and now
all of a sudden, he on many boards many analysts
at least, has dropped out of the first round. If
that is the case, I would love to see the
Arizona Cardinals get him. I'd take Tyler Booker. I'd take
him at sixteen right now, because he's the ward daddy
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JG wants to have at that guard position.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, what's interesting, You're right? I mean when the mock
draft started a month ago, he was going tenth overall
to Chicago, thirteenth overall to Miami. He wasn't even getting
to the Cardinals. Now now you can get him in
round two according to the mock drafts. Dave any thoughts
on guard and or maybe middle linebacker for this team.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, having Alabama a bunch the last couple of years,
I can speak to a wolf was talking about with
Booker and ultimately, do you really care what a guard
runs in the forty yard dash? You carry about can
can he wrecked? Wreck the line of scrimmage, open up whole,
protect Kyler Murray and run ten yards downfield to help block.
We don't necessarily need him to worry about forty yards sprint.
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I found it interesting that on the draft boards he dropped.
I wonder if he's really dropped in the draft rooms.
We're really mad, right, does Monty Austin Ford care if
the guy ran over a five, you know, as an
offensive guard for the forty yard dash? Maybe he does.
But Booker is a guy that you know. Alabama has
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got a pretty good tradition when it comes to offensive
lineman and success rate making the transition to the NFL.
And that's a player I like as well.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Dave Pash, our guest in the Big Red Rage, Dave,
what about corner back? Because now a lot of the
mock drafts have the Cardinals using the sixteenth pick overall
for a corner namely Will Johnson Michigan coming off an injury.
Big dude, six to two, I mean, really athletic wolf
Din melkiper Junior tell you this week he's like a
pick six waiting to happen. That That was Mel's quote.
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I don't know if you've see him much, Dave, but
overall we know that's JG's area of specialty corner. Do
you think this these decision makers value that position high
enough to go number sixteen overall?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Again, I don't think he can ever have too many
cover guys, and he's I didn't have Michigan this year,
but watching him on television over time, he stands out.
And you know, I don't have a problem necessarily picking
a guy that is coming off an injury. Garrett Williams
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is coming off an injury, but he was a third
round pick. Maybe it's different if you're taking a guy
in the top twenty that's coming off an injury. But
he is a guy that definitely stands out. I think
there are a few guys that really stand out that
you could see the Cardinals taken in the middle of
the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Can I just jump in here and say that will
Johnson was so fascinating about him, PAULI is the fact
that he's six too. He's six too when he's over
two hundred pounds. You were talking, Paulie about a big,
big corner. And what mel kiper Junior actually told us
on the Wolf and Luke Show. Of course, he told
us that he's the best anticipatory corner he has seen
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in years. Now, What did he mean by that, Paul,
He's talking about a corner that plays in his zone
room and can actually jump a lot of route combinations.
He said, he's a pick six, as you said, waiting
to happen right here, but anticipatory corner. It was the
first time I think I've ever heard that kind of
terminology and it was from mel kiper Junior about Will
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Johnson in the fact that he is a guy that
does really, really well in zone cover. Does that sound
like something that would interest Nick Rolis and Jag Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
When you paint that picture, I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey.
I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey of the Dolphins and
being on the sideline and going, man, that dude's a corner.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Battling Marvin Harrison Junior? Al Right, my last question of
Dave Pash Voice of the Car As you do a
lot of college games, I always like to get your
thoughts on quarterback real quick. I mean does it go
beyond the top two? Cam Ward Shador Sanders. What do
you think about Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck? What do you
think about those guys at.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
Both over the years?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Had Jackson Dart I think three times this past year.
I'm not sure about you first round, but I could
see both those guys going later. Had cam Ward this
year clearly the best quarterback to me in the draft.
But I really like Shadar Sanders a lot. I like
him as a guy, I like him as a player,
and I think I know there's a lot of rumors
that he's dropping, but he's somebody that if I need
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a quarterback, even if you're not sure how much, he
can help you right away because of his work, ethic,
his intelligence and his talent. I'm taking him high in
the draft. Dave, love it.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Love the expertise and the insight. We're gonna lean on
you as we get close to the draft. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Hi, fella's good talking to you.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
There we go, Dave Pash. We continue and we'll talk
quarterback Jacoby Brissett. Next on the big Red Rage.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Persett lifts his right Lene they show Blitz. Here they come.
Jacoby back up in the pocket looking throwing Cooper's open.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
He's up in the hurry Cotton in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Touchdown Hombory Cooper per set shotgun with hunch on his left,
him percent looking up in the pocket.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
He's gonna run and then.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
He thinks he runs track.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
He's got the end zone.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Heady links in touchdown.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Jacoby Brussette.
Speaker 8 (24:27):
In my role throughout my career, I think you find
different ways to help not only myself but other guys
around me, and you figure that out as the year
goes on, and uh, you know, the good things you
continue to do and the bad things you just learn
from it to get better from it.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's Jacoby Brssett, Cardinals, q B two, A proven commodity
in this league, well known to those who are in
charge of the Arizona Cardinals, considering that he has ties
to the offensive coordinator Drew Patts and the quarterbacks coach
Israel Woolford. Jonathan Gannon himself. They were together in Indie
once upon a time, Fanny aasen Ford when he was
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in New England, so a lot of familiarity and there's
a reason that he signed on the line that has
dotted Jacoby Brissett. As we say, welcome back into the
Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We
are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley our guest. Last week,
wolf Drew Stanton Carent, former Cardinals backup quarterback, said he
actually sent a text to the front office congratulating the
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decision makers on what he called an A plus signing
in Jacoby Brissett. You know, Drew and how much he
values that position. Not only you know, in case of emergency,
breake Glass, you want a guy who's capable and can
get you out of a game and gets you a win. Yeah,
but what the backup can do for the starter and
the entire offense. So what sort of value do you
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attach to this sort of signing?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, Paul, you know, I mean, just looking at Kyler
Murray and his injury situation, It's not like he's missed
a ton of games. I mean, we all understand when
you blow your ACL out, you blow your ACL out, Yeah,
and you're going to miss a lot of stuff. It's
not like Kyler is a guy that habitually has injury issues.
Yet at the same time, you're this is the National
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Football League and man, you better have a backup that
can come into games, as you said, Pauli, and get
you out of games. I love this signing by the
Arizona Cardinals because of Drew Petsing, because of his knowledge,
of course, with Jacoby Brissett in twenty twenty two with
the Cleveland Browns. I love that, Puali. I think that's
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really really important going forward. And I also like the
fact too that I don't think the Arizona Cardinals are
going to have to change their offense a lot or
the nature of their offense. I think Jacoby prissaid, although
he's not a guy that has the wheels like Kyler
Murray has, he is a guy that can still be
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that dual threat quarterback. He does run the ball when
he has to run the ball, and does a good
job of it as well. He's got fifteen touchdowns in
his career. He's a guy that back in twenty twenty
two with the Browns rush for over two hundred yards
two hundred and forty three yards as a matter of fact.
So this is a guy that can actually do that
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orchestrate the modern day offense and the National Football League
where you can blend the old and the new, the
two different schemes, the new schemes with the old schemes.
I think Jacoby Brissett embodies that and actually allows the
Cardinals to keep the same kind of offense going forward
if Kyler Murray ever does go down.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, his fifty three career starts. He got them out
of a game late October, New England where he came
back in the second half, especially the fourth quarter, two
late scoring drives and they beat the Jets, and that
that was a big win and really showed what he's
capable of. Well, there was Jacoby Brissett not long after
signing the line that has dotted with our Zach Gershman
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and they sat down to go one on one and
they were talking about the whole free agency process to start.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
When the free agency process began, what were you looking
for in a team and why were the Cardinals to
right fit for you?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Yeah, I think it all boiled down to, you know,
people that I wanted to go to work with. Obviously
I had a history with Israel and Drew Petsing and
obviously JG when he was an indie. I think those
were the driving forces for me, and that's what made
this place attracted to me.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Drew Pets and he was your quarterbacks coach in Cleveland,
where you started eleven games with the Browns. What is
it about his coaching style that you gravitated towards.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
His mindset going into games? You know, how he breaks
everything down and makes it simple for the quarterback to play.
I think when I was playing there, I think I
was playing really good ball. And you know, the way
he handled the meeting rooms and things like that, it
definitely helped me, you know, towards the field.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Towards the back end of the season. Last year, you
were at State Farm Stadium for the Patriots versus the Cardinals.
I know you're on the up posing sidelines, and the
Cardinals came away with the win. But when you were
watching that game and even leading up to it as
you were prepping for the Cardinals, what'd you see from
the Cardinals offense and defense that stood out to you?
Speaker 8 (28:54):
You know, obviously on office a lot of explosive players,
and it was kind of cool to see all the
ways that Drew kind of used Cleveland offense and fit
the players into the system and kind of built around
the guys that he has here. So you know that
was that was very exciting. I was trying to call
the plays from the sideline and see if I was
getting them right. And then obviously the defense was always
tough to go against. You know, you got a guy
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at least like Buddha. You know, you know, it's a
lot of fun to watch him, and obviously as an
opposing player, it's very tough to go against him.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
So you now enter this quarterback room with guys like Kyler, Murray,
Clayton Tune, knowing that you're the veteran in that room,
considering you have the most experience in the league, how
do you think you could compliment both of those two players.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
I think when you get in those rooms, you just
got to figure it out as you go. You know,
obviously want to bring some insight, and obviously, you know,
helped our room be the best room in the league
and play good football. And I think that's what it
all boils down too.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
You know, it's interesting. I've cited the Boston media to
a man said that Drake may loved him that even
though Jacoby Brissett lost his starting gig Week six to
the rookie, he was really good in the room. Did
everything he could to mentor young Drake May. That obviously
is critical and the whole equation. Drew Stan talked about
that last week. He also talked about you have to
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be ready to go when you get virtually no reps
during the practice week. So the fact that he's got
ten years in the league, almost half of those years
he was a starting quarterback once again if in need,
combined with the fact that Wolf he has an historically
low career interception percentage. So let's say you need him
and you have a top ten, top five run game
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like the Cardinals have had two years running, he can
definitely engineer some wins for this team if called upon.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, no, if called upon, that's exactly what he can do. Pauline,
You're right about that. You've got to have that expectation
out of your backup quarterback. I've told you there are
two times where heads will snap up in the huddle.
Number one one a legend steps into the huddle to
call play. And number two, when the backup quarterback steps
in to call a play, your head will snap up
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and you're gonna be looking at the guy like are
you okay? Are you gonna be okay? Right now? Because
We know you didn't get a ton of reps during practice,
and you know what, we got to go win this game.
Are you all right? You know it's not going to
be too big for Jacoby Brissett at all. He's going
to be able to step into that huddle and command
that huddle, and that's not going to be a surprise
to anybody that might be in that huddle right now.
(31:16):
I think it's also very, very important that he has
a familiarity with his offense that he can actually help
share with Kyler Murray and help his growth and his
development as well. But Jacoby Brisset, from what I've seen
in the past, when I've seen him on the sideline,
he's always in the ear of the starting quarterback. And
(31:38):
I wonder if he's going to do the same with
Kyler Murray because he's got a lot to say, He's
got a lot of wisdom, he's got a lot of poise,
and I wonder if he can help Kyler develop a
little bit more of that as well.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, And if you think that, look the evolution of
Kyler's game where he can really elevate his game in
year seven is just recognizing defenses right quickly, being able
to read and react. You gotta figure Jacoby Brissett's going
to be your real asset in that department, speaking of
the huddle and playing quarterback and going to the line
of scrimmage. Offensive line obviously is a big asset. We'll
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see if the Cardinals go that direction in the draft.
We'll see there are still some potential starting guards out
there that are in play. We'll see about that. But
what you want to see more than anything else, Wolf,
is a healthy offensive line. Don't know if you had
a chance to catch Acycardinals dot Com Darren Rbant in
his post earlier today where he cited how the two
thousand and eight Super Bowl team you're very familiar with
(32:34):
that you called every single game. Do you realize over
sixteen regular season games, in four playoff games all the
way to Super Bowl forty three, the same starting five
and the offensive line started every single game.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know what, Paly, Honestly, I don't remember that.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I knew they were intact. I didn't know they started
all twenty games. And the reason you brought that up is,
if if there's one thing you can wish for this year,
it's the health of the old line, because Cardinals didn't
have a single combination of five guys last year that
even started twenty percent of the games.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That's just that's just crazy right there. It really is. Listen.
I honestly think going into the draft, this is the
one thing I'm going to be looking at. An interior
offensive lineman selected high. Whether it's in the first round,
the second round, whatever it may be. I think Manti
Asenford is going to continue to improve it. You know,
(33:31):
the spirit position of JG is the offensive line. That's
what he wants. He talks about it all the time,
and that's where I think the Arizona Cardinals truly can
get better in the draft. I know that you don't
want to depend on a rookie, a young guy like that,
but I think there's a guy that is out there
that could be available to the Arizona Cardinals, whether it's
(33:53):
at sixteen or they're going to trade down Tyler Booker.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
More big red Rage. Right after this, we Scott to
throw lasher.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
He is Jack Dalvin Tomlinson flying through the middle at
a sack to start for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
His sign.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Thomlinson don't in trouble downy cos Dalvin Tomlinson there and the.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ball came out.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Dalton Man bron down again, Dalvin Tomlin said.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Fields from a clean pocket, nobody open.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Now the pocket collapses of Downy goes, the ball is out,
Dalvin Tomlin.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Said, with the strip sack Boomer round two pick, former
member of an Alabama defensive line room that included Jonathan
Allen and Deron Payne and A'shawn Robinson. I mean, just absurd.
It was sort of like when Kenyon Drake showed up
right and came to the Cardinals and he talked about
(34:50):
how in his Alabama running back room there was Derrick Henry,
Alvin Kamara, TJ. Yeldon who was a high second round pick.
I just did the talent that's going through the that
program during those times and in area is two years,
twenty nine million, sixteen million guaranteed. Reportedly, Cardinals make a
big investment in a big man. Dalvin Tomlinson. As we're
wrapping up the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford
(35:13):
in Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley and wolf you know,
I mean, look, there were times last year where the
Cardinals went against three techniques and nose tackles who are
a serious headache. I'm thinking about the two Seattle games
with Leonard Williams. I mean, there's only so many things
you can do as an offensive coordinator to try and
nullify a really disruptive three technique or nose tackle, and
(35:36):
the Cardinals certainly hope they got one now in Dalvin Tomlinson.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, PAULI, you know, once again, this was my favorite signing,
Dalvin Tomlinson. It was I know that Josh Sweat was
a bigger need and there's no doubt about that they
needed an edge guy that could come in and produce.
And I think Josh Sweat was a great signing, no
doubt about it. For me personally, you know me, I
(36:01):
want the big Harry, give you the big nasty the
guy who's going to line up over the center in
a one technique or line up over the outside shoulder
of a guard in a three technique and create that
interior push that the Arizona Cardinals really need, and that
is something that's a three technique can really do. You've
heard me say this before, Polly, but it's the truth.
(36:23):
There's nothing more destructive in the football universe than a
three technique. Dalvin Tomlinson is a guy that did an
awesome job of getting quarterback hits last year when he
was thirty one years old, getting quarterback hits and not
only that pressures on the quarterback, he set career highs
(36:43):
for each one of those last year. This tells me
this guy is still a work in progress as well.
He's only thirty one years old, and we've seen many
three techniques, many nose tackles go into thirty three, thirty
four somewhere in that vicinity before they started to take
a step back.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
See, we have a pattern here. Guys who played the game,
who had NFL careers, they like this Dalvin Tomlinson signing
the most. Rob Frederickson said, I don't know if there's
a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson. Kyle Vannibosch talking
about Look, the three years that I went to the
Pro Bowl, you know who my interior defensive linemen were,
Albert Hansworth and then and Dominic can Sue. So they
(37:23):
know how vital it is to have that guy. And
we had Dalvin Tomlinson himself as a guest on Cardinals
Cover Too, the podcast with Craig Griolou and Yours truly,
and we just started by asking him why the Cardinals
the scheme.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
I looked into the scheme, I felt like I was
I would be a good fit in the interior of
the scheme and making plays, and I saw what the
Cardinals was trying to build and everything, and I just
felt like what the culture they already have here and
the guys they are bringing in has a perfect fick
for me.
Speaker 9 (37:52):
What specifically from watching this defense do you think you
might have the biggest disruption, whether that's the run or
the I.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Feel like a little bit of both, especially the run game,
just because the noseguard gets freed up with a lot
of one on ones. That's very dangerous, I would say,
And I in the past it was just the biggest
thing is all the RPOs and play action passes in
the game. These days, I feel like I make a
big impact in that field.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
You mentioned earlier about the pass rush that you felt
like there was an elevation to your pass rush last season.
What specifics did you learn or did you show out
on the football.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Field last year.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I would say it's mostly technical stuff with hands and feet,
flipping the hips, like stopping the run and being disruptive
in the run game and starting with power and go
to finesse and things like that. No one went to
mix things up in the pass rush. It just makes
me feel like I was more versatile last year, and
I was actually getting a lot of good hits on
quarterbacks last year as a big guy.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Yeah, it says here, I'm looking at your analytics. You
had career highs and quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback knockdowns.
Were you getting a little extra attention towards the end
of the year. Was that showing up on film?
Speaker 7 (39:00):
Oh yeah, for sure. You know, you only could give
me so much attention when I have Miles over there
expecting the same thing with sweating man. And yeah, you know,
as a big guy, you know, I'm used to double
teams and stuff like that, and a lot of the
pass rushes I had when I was getting those hits,
so I was had to defeat double teams.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
And you know what, I threw those stats out there.
But at your position, when you're commanding a double team,
you're at the epicenter of the d line. I mean,
stats don't always tell the story right as to whether
you're effective at your job description. So what do you value.
How do you assess your own play when you're right there,
especially when you're playing the nose or the three technique.
Speaker 7 (39:35):
Like stat's not everything going to interior just because like
if I have a defensive end next to me, every
year it gets ten plus sacks. I'm happy because I'm
doing my job because I'm helping him get up free.
So if I can help the guys around me be
productive and successful, I'm doing my job as well.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
We also asked him, all right, when you're making place,
what's your favorite play to make, and we gave him
a few options. He said, oh yeah, knocking the center
on his keyster and then if I can go ahead
and force a fumble after that, that would be the combo.
That's the combo platter for me. That's what he enjoys
the most. But you can, you can just just sitting
down with a wolf, you know, just his energy is
love for the game and his willingness to do the
(40:13):
dirty work inside and is a three time state champion
wrestler in high school.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Sixty three three. I just love that.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
I just think he's so well equipped for that position.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, I just want to say this quickly as well
to some of the best combinations have been a three
technique and in edge rusher. Some of the best combinations
in terms of generating pressure and working together that three
technique Leonard Marshall and Lawrence Taylor. Have you heard of
those guys play, Yeah, Leonard Marshall of course, the three
(40:45):
technique on the inside in Lawrence Taylor. Those two guys
working in unison created so much havoc in the National
Football League. And I honestly believe once again that the
Arizona Cardinals have Josh Sweat and now Tomlinson and who knows,
who knows who else, maybe bj Ojalari, maybe Darius Robinson
(41:07):
on the outside of Dalvin Tomlinson. Maybe they'll actually work
together and create this force of coming off and running
schemes together. It's one of the things that I really
look forward to, the stunts that they're going to be running,
Darius Robinson of course, and Dalvin Tomlinson together, the stunts
(41:27):
they may be running, whether it's interior stunts or exterior,
it's going to be really cool to watch the chemistry
come together.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
And then the Cardinals investment. Baron Browning, he said he
was never healthy all last year. He finished with a flourish.
Bjo Jelai was having a great camp till he went down.
So yeah, there's possibilities and there is maybe the ability
to bring a lot of these guys in waves, not
unlike what the Eagles did, especially in the Super Bowl.
So look, you can cram it vertical on both sides
of the line. That's the defense offense. Well, did you
(41:57):
see the stat that came out earlier this week and
third Team put out the running backs of the highest
percentage of their rush is going for ten plus yards
last season. Number one Jamier gives the Lion sixteen point
four percent. Number two James Connor fourteen point four percent
of his runs went for ten or more yards. That's
at a Derrick Henry Saquon Barkley Fries Hall. Wow.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Boy, that is so impressive right there, especially because again
the offensive line. I think the offensive line for the
Arizona Cardinals is only going to be better this season.
It's not a surprise to me that James Connor is
mentioned at the very top in the National Football League
and running the football and explosive plays. We've all seen that,
(42:40):
of course, but at the same time, knowing all the
injuries they had on the offensive line and that's only
going to get better hopefully going forward. I think that's very,
very encouraging. You know.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
It's also interesting the Big twelve Pro Day has been
the last couple of days Arizona State involved in that. Now,
Cam Skataboo did not participate, but his head coach, Kenny
Dillingham won on NFL Network and said, you know, his
comp for Cam Scataboo Maurice Jones Drew, who led the
NFL in rushing one year with over sixteen hundred yards.
(43:12):
That five eight five nine and a half type stature right,
the ability to take contact contact, balance, just the leg drive.
Give us a quick thought on Cam Scataboo And where
do you think he's gonna go? Do you have a
gut feeling on him?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't, Paully, I don't. I just know that somebody's
gonna draft him higher than a lot of the draft
analysts will suspect. That's what I think, whether it's in
the third round, Paulie, maybe the fourth round. But I
think a lot of people going into last year didn't
really have Cam Scataboo rated high. He was going to
(43:49):
be a guy that might be a sixth round pick
seventh round pick somewhere in that vicinity. He definitely has
improved that. As we all know, he's one of the
best running backs in my opinion, in the country right now. Man,
would you love to see James Connor and camscat it.
I would love to see it, Seriously, I would love
to see that. I just don't think he's going to
(44:09):
be around well.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
And that combined with the fact Cardinals are pretty set,
pretty loaded in the running back room, right, I mean,
they re upped James Connor, Trey Benson really flashed mid season,
and then of course Amari de Mercado, great third down back,
underrated as a receiver as well.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Out of the backfield.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
DJ Dallas, I mean, he's on this team, he's not
going anywhere, and great teams guy, So it would be
surprising if he ended up in a Cardinals uniform. But
speaking of how about Marvin Harrison junior jersey because guess
what they're now available. That's right, you can get the
latest gear from the Cardinals team shop, including the recently
(44:48):
drop Marvin Harrison junior jersey. Go to Easycardinals dot com
slash shop. That's Easycardinals dot Com slash shop today all right.
Special thanks to Dave Pass for joining us Voice of
the Cardinals. As always, thank you to executive producer Jim A. Mohunro,
Associate producer Cody Fincher, Technical director Ali Narini, Farron Wolfley
on Paul Calvic. This has been the Big Red Rage
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