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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are back here on Bills by the Numbers, where
we let the stats tell you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Where the Bills are at.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We're presented by a fan who will make every moment
more coming your way. Was only one game, But what
did Week one tell us about the Bills? We'll examine
the pluses and minuses from the opener against the Ravens
and determine whether we can be excited or concerned about
certain areas of the team. Steve is quizzed on division openers,
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and we'll have our one burning question.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, does anybody have a hose to use on fireman?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Ed?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Glad you can make it. Welcome to Bills by the Numbers.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
He is Bill's Wall of Famer Steve Pasker on Bills
played by play broadcaster Chris Brown, and on the heels
of an unimaginable home opener, the Bills gave us a
taste of what to expect this season from their offensive
and defensive units. So in these three thing number one, Steve,
what did Buffalo's Week one performance against the Ravens?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Tell us?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
First of all, think about if say Matt Prater comes
in off a red eye, brand new guy, don't.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Know, and he misses the kick and he lose this game.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, you're still thinking your offense is good enough to
hang in there, and you're worried about your defense because
now your offense really isn't good enough to overcome this defense.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But the kick goes through. Now you think okay.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Plus it helps you sit back and say, there's not
very many offenses in the NFL as good as the Ravens.
Maybe the Bills is as good. Right on Sunday, yes,
it was exactly the same. Right they scored, So you're thinking,
we're a tough team to beat. We do need some
help defensively, They've got to play a little stiffer on
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that side of the ball. But this offense continues to click.
And the only thing that really worries you about that
side of the ball on the offense.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That is, is you know what took them so long?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know? Was there there was a lull in that
late in the first half. They got that right before halftime.
They came out and got the field goal.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That was great, But in between the first drive and
the last drive and a half, it was a little
touch and go.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, they adds a couple of three and outs, They
got some penalties, on the offensive line, holdings and some
false starts a little sloppy. So there's everything to clean
up there on both sides of the ball. But the
truth is still in there. When this engine revs, ain't
nobody staying with it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I'm going to kind of go in a different
direction with this.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think what it told us is the team's resilience
is alive and well, and the ability to summon up
game altering plays when they need them most is there.
They probably won't happen every week, but this team under
McDermott more often than not finds a way and that
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was just proven again in Week one. And it wasn't
all offense. You know, when the defense had to get stops,
they got stops. When they had to get a takeaway,
they got a takeaway. So I don't think it's all
bad on the defensive side of the ball, But we'll
dive into that a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
This this defense inner McDermott has always been kind of
a best source break. But it's been a playmaking defense,
like a timely defense, and that's and that's why it's
kind of hardly it's excruciating to watch because you don't
they don't do it until you've got to have it,
and all of us are ringing or clutching our pearls,
like you know, and finally they you know, they do
more often than not. They absolutely absolutely come through. But man,
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that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We'll get into that more in just a second.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Thing Number two, What element of Buffalo's performance against the
Ravens gives you confidence that it can be depended upon
no matter what the time or score of the game
might be.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, their offensive production is is right there again forty points.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean, come on, a machine, it's a machine.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And they ran the ball pretty effectively when they wanted to.
I think James Cooks he showed on the short catch
and run. He's dynamite in the open field. Once again,
he's a real weapon. Joshua Palmer was excellent.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
In this game.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Keon Coleman, I mean, we're gonna start talking about him.
I'm pretty sure when he thought.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
We were talking about him from what we saw in
training camp. And then he don't practice with the bear.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
He's going to be the center of conversation for a
minute here at least, and if he keeps going the
way he's going. And now for other the three tight
ends showed up. All of them combined were good.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So I am seven for ninety seven and a touchdown
all three of them together.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The offense seems to be there. I'd like to get
a better hand on the offensive. The offensive line was
a little sloppy.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
They had a lot of.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Penalties really basically is what I'm saying. And they had
a hard time clearing it out for the run game
as much as we have seen them in the past.
But once again they're playing the number one run defense
last year they are playing a crew on a Baltimore
Ravens side. Those guys are good on in every facet
of the game except what closing it out. That's the
only thing they stink at. Everything else they click. So
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it was a big test for this team and they
summoned enough to beat him by one.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I would say what I feel can be dependent upon
is the passing game. Looks as though it can be
reliable for this offense. Josh Allen appears to be an
even better pre snap diagnoser this season who can adjust
on the fly to what he believes is coming at him.
It was an area that we know he wanted to
improve this offseason. Check the box after what we saw
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from him in Week one, because we're already seeing evidence
of it. And look, he's not going to be perfect,
but we've seen him as a decision maker in pressure
situations and he has been downright dynamic. So I think
you can count on him to execute the passing game
to almost flawless perfection. There might be a defensive coordinator
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that gets him on a given play or a money
down or there, but I think ninety percent of the
time that dude's gonna win just because of all the
effort and energy he has put into being a pre
snap diagnoser, because I believe after losing another close game
to Patrick Mahomes again, who I would argue is one
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of the best game manager quarterbacks in terms of managing
the situation and getting his team through it, even sometimes
with limited resources. He is I mean, he is good
at making more, you know, more out of less, and
I think Josh wanted to incorporate that into his own
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arsenal and I think over the course of this offseason
he has checked that box.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, that's mahomes gift. He is never dead and when
it looks the perfect defense, he gets finds a way
to get out and Josh does this to a certain extent.
Both these guys are clutch players athletically, Mahomes and.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Josh.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
But you're right, that's Mahomes situational awareness is second to none.
That's his that's his superpower. He knows where his opportunities
are all the time and has no problem behind the
back sideways. Well, he's kind of making a laser throw
down the field.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
He's like an FBI agent that knows all the exits
as soon as he gets into the room, you know
what I mean, that's kind of how I think.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
If he's he's an amazing player, and Josh is right
there with him, and because of the bounce of the ball,
and because of the way the clock ends of the game,
and and maybe that's time management in large measure, but
there's no question Josh had gotten the short end of
it in some pretty quirky circumstances going against Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Thing number three, What part of Buffalo's play on Sunday
night was of greatest concern And how quickly do you
feel it can be remedied?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, I mean, you watch that game and the run
defense jumps out at you. I think it can be
remedied fairly quickly. I still don't know. I don't know
if we know how good our defensive line can be
because they I think they struggled to be in the
right gaps. I think there were some real mental confusion
and communication issues up front. Certainly, we've got a bunch
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of young guys on the d line, and we knew
there was gonna be some growing pains. We were hoping
they would come along fast. They got some work to do. Now,
this was an A plus plus running team, no question about.
So they got they got thrown in the deep end
right away, but they got exposed. And maybe they got
away with one here, and they can get it better.
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They can get it better very quickly, because certainly some
team they're gonna see some of the same concepts, because
nobody's gonna come and play the Bills and not try
exactly what the Baltimore Ravens just did to them. So
they're gonna get a chance to get some reps at
it endgame and we'll see if they get better at it.
But that yes, the mental stuff can certainly be fixed
very quickly.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it's on the defensive side of the ball, where
the concerns Lie. I don't think there's any question about that,
especially when you give up forty even two a juggernaut
offense like the Ravens. For me, though I didn't think
the d line was awful, I had an issue at
the second level of the defense. I was really surprised
to see a down day at the linebacker position, and
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then it fell upon the safeties to make more plays
than they should be asked to make, particularly in defending
the run, and they were put in some uncompromising positions
because the linebackers could not get off blocks to make
plays and it was left to the safeties.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Will look better going forward. Better preparation was needed in
the eyes of coach McDermott. He said he needs an
elite level of preparation in advance of the Jets game
coming up in Week two, and knowing Terrel Bernard and
Matt Malone's approach to the game, I would expect it
to be markedly better as soon as this weekend. And finally, Steve,
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is there any one player new to the roster who
showed you more than you anticipated going into the season opener?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
New to the.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Roster, Jackson Hawes he was, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
He got like a handful of snaps and his first
catch is in a gout to have it moment down
the scene with two guys bearing down on him and
josh puts it on him right down the hash marks,
right down to the goal line. It's pretty impressive, and
that's not what we thought he was gonna be good at.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, so I thought that play.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Being ready in that moment on that time was absolutely
vital in that win. Certainly there are other guys too.
Joshua Palmer's another candidate for this. I mean, we knew
he was, we got they plugged him in. He's a pro,
and he played exactly like we thought he would play.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
He came through.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But I think the guy that surprised me most was
the way Hawes splashed on on the field with just
one play. He had one chance in the entire game.
He might have been a handful of snaps, but one play,
one target, and he came through.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
The two guys I have are on the defensive side
of the ball. I think we really didn't We know
what the pedigree is, but we really didn't know what
to expect from Joey Bosa and I think that he
is every bit the player that Brandon Bean hoped he
was adding to this roster. It didn't reveal itself in
the form of sacks and quarterback takedowns, but you noticed him.
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He was a factor. He was excellent in setting the
edge in the run game. They often ran away from
his side. That's not by accident. And the other guy
is Dorian Strong. I think we still need to see more.
I think it's hard to really put an accurate evaluation
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on him, primarily because Lamar Jackson only threw nineteen twenty
passes in the whole game nineteen nineteen pass attempts in
the whole game, So I don't know if we got
an accurate read on him. But I will say he
did not look like a deer in the headlights out there,
and that was encouraging going forward, which is why I'm
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very curious to see where his playing time goes from here,
especially when Trudevius White is healthy enough to play.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Drian Strong played one hundred percent of the defensive snaps.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Which you're putting an off. We say it all the time, Steve.
The number one thing coaches want from a player is
to know they can trust them. And to put a
rookie sixth round pick out there in week one and
play him the length of the game, I think, says
an awful lot.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So I think about this strong the Bill.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Now, the Bills defense gave up forty, but so did
the Baltimore defense. The Baltimore defense has four number ones
in the back end.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Buffalo's got two five if you count their nickels corner.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Buffalo's got two sixth rounders playing corner.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, and a fourth rounder playing nickel.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It's pretty good player development. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
We move ahead now to the Numbers Game, where Steve
will be quizzed on division openers, with the Bills taking
on the Jets in their first division match up.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Of the seasons the Jets, Patriots, and Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Okay, show.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No more.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Question number one in the Sean McDermott era, Steve, what
is the latest in the season that the Bills have
played their first division game?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I will say week three?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It is later?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Oh? Is it week four? Still later? No? Week six? Nope?
Week five?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
No again, no way, it's week eight.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
What year was that?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That was in twenty eighteen? There was a scheduling.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know what you want to call it anomaly.
And they played New England in Week eight of twenty eighteen,
that was their first division game of the season, so
kind of a what do we call that an anomaly?
That you know made it hard to guess that one correct?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, that's come on, man.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, these aren't supposed to be layups. They can't all
be layups.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Question number two, Wow, since twenty seventeen, Steve, what is
the greatest number of division games slated in the first
month of the season, but just here in the McDermott era,
give me the number the highest number of division games
you think the Bills have had in the first four
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weeks of the season? Two and you would be correct.
Two is the highest number. Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty and
this season. Oh are the years in which they will
play two division games in.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
The first month of the season.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
They got Jets in Week two, Dolphins in Week three
on a short week, by the way, Question number three,
what is the most lopsided win for the Bills in
a division opener in the McDermott era, first division game
of the season and.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They win going away?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What is the most lopsided win in your estimation? You
can give me a point differential, whatever you.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Want, let me see.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I would say would be I'd say the Dolphins gotta
be a Dolphins, Disney Dolphins, because that because you're on
the right track, Josh owns them. And I would say
it would be a fifteen point win.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's significantly more than.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
That, all right.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
So it's like thirty one three or some twenty eight points.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, it's actually thirty five points. So in twenty twenty one,
Week two, they shut out the Dolphins thirty five.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Zippo.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Who's your daddy? You don't even mind that you got
that one wrong.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Ah, let's go.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, if we keep straight faith. Question number four against
which vision opponent in the Sean McDermott era do the
Bills have the greatest point differential?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Does this include playoffs and all that?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Uh no, we're talking regular season only.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Miami?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yes, it is Miami.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Cared.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I guess the number.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Point differential total? How many games is that?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Well, let's see it since twenty seventeen, that's two a year.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So that's eight years, sixteen games. Well not this year,
well not this year, right, all right, so it's fourteen games.
What is point differential? I'll say plus one fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Plus two O five.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Isn't it fun? Bagging on the Dolphin?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Oh it's so delicious? Is it's been so long? So nice? Yeah,
that is the numbers game.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Say, wasn't that fun?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I enjoyed that thoroughly.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And I'll say this to that. That game. I went back.
I texted you last night.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was watching the Dolphins, the open against Dolphins Colts game.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It was bad outing, Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He might Mike McDaniel might not make it to Halloween.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
He may not make it a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
It was it was rough.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Uh, they play this week, they play the Patriots. If
that Patriots team goes down there and lumps them.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Up, yeah, it could be bad.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
They won't make the change on a short week.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Probably not, Probably not, probably not. But the Dolphins don't
always do things conventionally.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
It is correct. Correct.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
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Speaker 2 (17:55):
Of the Buffalo Bills. Time now for our one burning question.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We only saw it for three plays in the season opener, Steve,
but we got a small taste of Buffalo's three tight
end set with Dawson Knox, Dalton Kincaid and rookie Jackson
Hawes all on the field together. As good a job
as they did blocking, they also contributed seven catches for
ninety seven yards and a touchdown collectively.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
How likely is it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That we see more frequent use of thirteen personnel by
the Bills going forward this season?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, you say, three snaps of thirteen personnel in this
last game. They were productive in it. If I'm not mistaken,
You'll see more of it because of that, you jump,
they might jump to five or seven snaps in a
game like this, depending on the matchup. Then it'll grow
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from if they keep being productive, it'll grow to his
I think the maximum would be like ten to fifteen snaps. Again, Yeah,
you're not going to get more than that, right, no
matter how production.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Unless let me give you a scenario.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You tell me, if you subscribe to it, you want
to play bully ball against an opponent that you just
think you're flat out tougher and bigger and stronger against, like.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
The Dolphins on Thursday night. You could see you could
see fifteen or twenty snaps.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Right. Here's the thing you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Remember that, remember that Monday night game against the Cowboys
a couple of years ago here where they just went
bullyball on him.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Forty carries for James Cook.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Teddy Marsha Broda, who was, in my opinion, a Hall
of Fame coach in the NFL. He's got the Colts
to the champion AFSCY Championship game, was the offensive coordinator
for the k Gun in the first couple of years
of their Super Bowl runs. He went and then he
left here and went to be the head coach got
he got hired away. A phenomenal coach and really smart guy,
and he was beloved by us. So Teddy had this saying,
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he said, listen, and we would start talking about what
we were going to see in a defense, and it's
the same thing offensively. He goes, we're gonna he goes,
we're they run. They only had this. He'll talk about
a team like the Bills, they had fifty snaps in
the first eight games of the year of thirteen personnel, right,
but thirty five of them were in two games. Right,
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That's the That's the kind of spread you're looking at.
So the Bills will run a thirteen personnel but have
three plays this last week against Baltimore, They'll have three
plays this week against the Jet, they'll have fifteen plays
against the Dolphins, and they'll go back to have three
plays against the Saints. Right, that kind of thing is
going to happen. That's what I think will happen with
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thirteen personnel. And if they go in there in a
game like this first game against the Baltimore Ravens, in
this game, coming up against the Jets, and they're good,
and they start to get make some hay with it,
and they sprinkle in a couple extra that they didn't
really plan on doing. Then the package becomes something that
they can do against more defensive looks, and then they'll
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start to trust it when they say, well, wait a minute,
this team's going to struggle with this, let's put it
in more. That's what you're looking at. That's but then
you start becoming, you know, a different team offensively, and
you have to when you put when you put Kincaid
Knocks and Jackson Halls on the field, a couple of
guys got to sit down. Somebody's got to sit down.
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You can't have fourteen guys on the field. So somebody
has sit down. And that may be where you get
into the crux where it's like, Okay, we don't want
to take key On off the field or Joshua Palmer.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Now we're stuck. So that's the problem you have.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But if you have a team, let's just say you're
playing against a team that has four really good corners, Yeah,
put thirteen personnel on the field. They say, oh, you
want to keep your corners out here, We're just gonna
bully ball you in the passing game because these guys
are taller than all your little corners running around.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, now you're gonna put a linebacker on the field.
Now we're gonna run Kinkaid.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
For instance, you you got a team like the Jets
here and they've got a couple of corners and like
Sauce Gardeners out there who weighs about as much as
my coffee cup sitting here.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He is six three though.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, but he's a whispy.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yes, Jackson Hawes comes out and grabs him by the
breastplate and you know, takes him on a ride and
sticks him head first into the bench. They got a
problem then, because you run right and that's they do
that when you get a guy like that. It used
to happen to me. They run right at you. They
don't try and run away from you. They run right
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at you.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
That's a problem for a guy who's light.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'm curious to see where it goes, because I think
it's going to afford them some interesting options in given
weeks against given opponents. And I think there will be times,
maybe as soon as Week three against Miami, where they
say we can we can bludgeon these guys with these
three and then that's on film, and then you can
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play off of that against a different opponent and throw
the ball.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
More with those three guys on the field, because they
can all run and.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Catch you can.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You go out there and you start with a multitude
of options, run those handling personnel, and all of a sudden,
you run that play that you've been running has been good,
and all of a sudden, that's not the same play
looks like and the other team jumps in on it,
and all of a sudden, Jackson hawes out the backway
catching the y.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I just think, Joe Brady, I just think Joe Brady's
brain is just too well.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
You got to do the possibilities.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's creativity is the fun part of coaching. These guys
love it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Our closing figure deals with the concerns about the Bills defense.
As we know, the Bills gave up forty points to
the Ravens in Week one and needed a superhuman performance
from Josh Allen to still pull out the victory. That
forty point output by the Ravens means the Bills defense
has now allowed forty points or more and four hundred
total yards or more in three of their last six
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regular season games dating back to last season. It happened
in the loss to the Rams forty four to forty
two and the win over Detroit forty eight to forty two.
Prior to Week fourteen of the twenty twenty four season,
when one of these games happened, Buffalo had only two
such games in the Sean McDermott era and did not
have a game like that since Week eleven of the
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twenty seventeen season, his first season in Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'll say this, I'm not giving them a pass because
you got to play defense. But they're always playing against
an offense who are trying to keep up with Josh
Allen on the fully formed Josh Allen. These last couple
of games, this last half of last season, last half
of the season two years ago, and then all of
last season, they're playing against teams who have changed their
philosophy to play this team, and it is we got
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to keep up.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
We can't stop them.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
We got to keep up, and that puts an enormous
amount of pressure on your defense. Now they don't get
a pass, but they're playing. They're playing some teams with
their foot on the gas and going all out. And
there's some teams out there that are good enough to
get it done.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That'll do it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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for watching, listening.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
We'll catch you next time.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Everybody st