November 19, 2020 • 41 mins
ATL's one and only Jeezy visits Bird Noises and talks to Matt Tabeek about his love for the Falcons, what makes Atlanta different from other NFL cities, his latest work and message in 'Recession 2' and his Verzuz battle with Gucci Mane.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen today is a huge deal, a big
deal for this show. Uh. In fact, I don't even
know if I can refer to this show as bird
Noises anymore. I'll tell you why, because Bird Noises just
went boom with our next guest. Let me welcome the
atl's one and only, Geezy. Welcome to Bird Noises, Jeezy.
(00:22):
Thanks so pleasure to be here, baby boom boom. I
love it. Thanks for coming on, man, So thanks for
having me. Yeah, it's so good to have you here.
You know, it was pretty cool a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
it was a couple of weeks ago when we had
Goody Mob on here several weeks ago, weeks ago. But
this is pretty awesome. Dope, man, dope. Shout out to
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the fellas for stopping through. Man. Yeah, they were awesome.
They were good good. Yeah, great guys. We had a
lot of fun um and so I just want to
thank you for taking time out of your I'm sure
you've got a hectic schedule, but it's it's always good
to uh have somebody to like you on this show.
The show is like, you know, it's a twenty fourth episode,
so it's right it's it's new still, yes, yeah, So, uh,
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I want to talk to you about growing up in
Atlanta being a Falcons fan. Um. One of the other
things I want to talk to you about it was
just your memories, um, just being a Falcons fan here
in this city. Uh, players, coaches, seasons, that kind of stuff.
But I also want to talk about your latest work,
The Recession, too. Uh. And I understand you have your
own podcast out. I was listening to a little bit
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of that. It's called the Recession, right, yes? Is that
is that? Did I get it right? Ression? Ression? And
then there's a certain you know, if you want to
get into a later certain versus battle coming up in
two days. If you want to talk a little bit
about that, we can at the end. But first, let's
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just uh. One thing I do with every guest here, jeez,
is uh um. It's kind of show staple, and it's
this the name of this podcast is it's kind of
it's different Bird Noises. Okay. So one of the things
that I do is I ask every guest what do
they think in the name bird Noises? And the only
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requirement is that you just be brutally honest. Right. I
think it's weird. Yeah, okay, and it's different, definitely beard
and different. I'll tell you what. We've had some people
love it. Jesse Tuggle the hammer uh loves it. We
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had some coaches that said, yeah, it needs a little juice.
Celo said he wanted it. He thinks it should be
called bird. That's that's that's different. And so so, you know,
I thought it might be kind of cool. I was
sitting here thinking about you coming on, and it's not
often we get somebody on here. How do I say
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this that's a lyrical expert, has some lyrical expertise like you.
So if I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this question.
I thought it might be fun if you were in
charge of coming up with a name for this podcast,
which is a podcast about Falcons football but mostly everything else,
something that had to cut through the noise a little bit,
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be a little different. What would you name this podcast podcast?
What would you name it? Dirty bird podcast? Dirty Bird podcast?
All right, I think I know where you're going a
little bit here, So let's talk a little Falcons, uh,
shall we? Um? Let's get it here. So you know,
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when I knew you grew up in Atlanta, obviously, when
did you become a Falcons fan? Oh Man, Dione Sanders
that whole era, late eighties. Yeah, ain't wearing the Falcon's
jersey and the Falcons started coat. Um it was what
I remember. And um, the colors I remember just growing
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I'm looking at the colors. I loved the black and red.
I just feel like it was just strong, solid, and um,
I love the um the bird as well. Yeah when
you see it, you know it that was one of
the old one, the old one, the other one. And yeah,
just you know, watching my uncles and everybody get around,
get around the TV for a Falcon's game and yeah,
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you know, I'm just you know, hearing about it wanting
to go to the actual game, but it was a
while before as able to actually go to a game though.
It was surreal, like being in that stadium, um, like
watching what was going on on the field and watching
the people in the stands. It was a real experience,
definitely the first time I went, because I just gotta
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feel for, um, you know, how things go down, because
we see it on TV. It looks different. Yeah you
actually there, you're in it. And I used to be like,
why the not yelling as loud, you know what I mean,
Why you can't hear what's going on in the field.
So it's almost like do you watch it at home?
That type of thing. So when Dan got here, uh,
you know, he came, there was a lot of pomp
and circumstance when he came out of FSU, right, and uh,
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not long after they changed, you know, the jerseys the look,
you know, and Andre rise and got here, Jerry Glanville.
They went to the All Black Rum. But the Falcons
they didn't win. They were they were pretty good, but
they didn't. You know, it's not like they were collecting rings,
but they had a certain what was it about him?
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I don't want to put words in him out, but
what was it about that team that era specifically? That's
just different, you know, being a Falcons fan, what's different
about the Falcons from other teams and other cities. I
think it's Atlanta, if I'm being honest. Atlanta is just
a different city. I remember when the Olympics came and
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people really got a chance to a glimpse of what
Atlanta was. Atlanta's magical and I think for the Falcons
to be a team that represents Atlanta and they go
hand in hand, and we support our own. Like the
games are almost like you know, parties. It is a
good time and it's experience and it's what you want
to do. If you got people in town or family
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in town, you gotta go catch the Falcons game. It's
just like the thing to do. So I think they
go hand in hand. I think Atlanta is a city
of entrepreneurs, is a city of big business. It continues
to grow, so with that we get new fans, you know,
as a seasons change, and then you know, you gotta
really look at it. It's just like Atlanta is a
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fun city. We got great nightlife, you know what I'm saying.
We got we got, we got um you know, our
own culture when it comes to the music. You know
what I'm saying. This is just so many different elements
to go together. And then we got a dope football team,
you know what I mean. It has dope colors, and
you know, this time around, we've got a bunch of
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young guys on it that you might see out on
a day to day to represent the team. So it
just feels like home grown and home pride, if you will.
It's pretty awesome. So yeah, when you think of the Steelers,
you think of that blue collar steel town, right, lunch
pal and they. When you think of the cowboys, you
think of like the Triplets, right, Captain America, try m
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at Michael, Right. But when you think of Atlanta, you
think of the party, is the culture, the swag, yeah yea,
and people come it's like a sensible people come here
and they leave with something in Atlanta is one of
those cities you can move to and actually be successful.
A lot of cities you can't. You know, you get
there and the resources ain't there. But Atlanta is full
of like resources and people that's continuously in and out
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of here and building and and and networking. And it's
just like Angel too, right, Yeah, everything happens in Atlanta, everything,
like you name it. If it's movies, we got it.
If it's music, we got it. If it's if it's events,
we got it. If it's politics, we don't. Yeah. I
mean it's just like a whole thing, you know, even
for the super Bowl to be here, Like I've been
to a lot of different Super Bowls, but when it
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was hosted in our stadium, it was clean, it was
like seamless. Traffic went too crazy, it's just dope, you know,
it's Atlanta. Yeah, it's you know, it's funny when you
describe it like that. It's just it's it's it's constantly changing,
but it's growing too, Is that fair? I mean, like
when you think in New York, you think of the Skyline, right,
and you think of when you think of San Francisco,
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you think of the Golden gate Bridge. When we think
of Atlantic, the Skyline, it's it's it's constantly changing. Yeah,
and and that's the day. I mean, there are parts
that are staples, right, But even when I go out
of town and come back, UM, there's always something different.
A building where one used to be at Um, a
new restaurant that open um. You know, people getting their
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own businesses and and turning strip malls into things like
it's the home of the entrepreneur if you ask me. So,
you know, whether it's real estate or or you know,
building skyscrapers, it goes on. If you look at Buckhead,
it is definitely expanded. It doesn't look the same from
the shops of Buckhead, like you I remember when that
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was all just nightclubs over there. Yeah, and like I
would have never saw that one coming but you can
look at it even um uh Atlantic Station. You know
that was totally something else, and you look at it
now as a whole. It's a whole ecosystem. It's crazy,
you know what I mean. So I just think that
part of dope. And I also, you know, love the
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fact that, like you know, even though our malls or
our malls and and we still have other things that
make you want to visit Buckhead and we still have
other things that make you want to if it's the
belt Line or um, any of those days. So much
to do in Atlanta, Georgia, like you could be here
and for a we can not do at all, you know, yeah, everything,
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It's just so many different cuts and and um, it's
culture is what it is. It's dope. It's really dope.
Um what do you think it? What do you think? So?
I think I think you just answered the question, but
I'm gonna ask you anyway. You know, there's just when
you think of Atlanta and you think of the athletes
that have played here, Dion Sanders, you mentioned Andrea Rising,
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Jerry Glanville, Michael Vic. What is it about those guys
that just draws fans or vice versa. You know, what
is it about when you think Atlanta in those personalities,
those are the guys that really flourish and thrive here.
I think I think it's relatability can relate to him.
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They look like your uncle, you know, they act like
your uncle, one of your cousins, you know, with the
college for football and made it to the pros. They're personable, Yeah,
and they become the people's stamps, like Mike people's samp,
you know what I mean. Beyond was he was prime time,
like you just had to see it. Andre Risen just
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you know, he just had it. And when you think
of these uh, certain athletes, they just got that that
that it factor, you know what they have that you
know that you can kind of look up to him
but feel like if you're still cool with him at
the same time, I mean quite sure if you're in
Ittodon in his in his prime, he'd probably speak, take
a picture of high five, you know, crack a few jokes,
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and he walked away like man, you know wow, you
know it's that you know, but I think you have
you met a lot of those guys, Yeah, yeah, of course,
of course, of course. Um. Actually, Haddon on my talk show,
I have a talk show on Fox Soul that airs
every Wednesday night at seven pm Pacific and ten pm Eastern,
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so it's called Worth the Conversation and was actually one
of my guests and we talked and we chopped it up.
And that's the thing. Like I met Dion at a
at a screening for US documentary and we just instantly
became cool when we just kept in contact, and that's
that thing of me. And I hit him up. I'm like,
I'm on the show. I would love to have you
against He was like, I'm there. And the next day
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I turned around and did his podcast. So it's you know,
it's just he's being personable with people and and I
think that's that's that's that's what makes it dope. He's
getting into what do you think about him getting into coaching? Now,
how do you think he'll do it? Yeah, I think
it's you know, he has the wisdom he would go Again,
It's like, I just got a position at um def
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Jam Records, which is the label that I called home
throughout my whole career, and now from a senior advisor
to the chairman, which is like a coach because I
have knowledge that I've learned over time that it's still valuable.
And I think with Dion, he's he's personable, he's relatable,
but he's very his football IQ is very high. So
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like he can go in there and relate to those
kids in a way that the average person can't because
he knows their struggle. You know what I'm saying. He's
gonna take the time to meet their parents, but then
their dad's going home, Like, oh man, Dion Sanders's coaching.
This is crazy, you know what I'm saying. So is
that you know, I'm sure he'll do really well when
he comes into the living room and sits with mom
and dad. I mean, that's right. Guy has a lot
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of personality. That guy just got it. You feel he'll
be a great recruiter, no doubt. So let me ask you,
you reference the Dirty Birds. What what's your favorite memory
or moment as a Falcon's fan growing up or just well,
my favorite memory, yeah, was the time that we almost
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won the Super Bowl and I was I was in Houston, Texas,
and he was going down. It was up I think
two or three touchdowns and you couldn't tell me nothing.
That was like short lived, but it was my favorite
moment because really had my jersey all, I had my gloves.
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And my second favorite moment as a Falcon's fan was
right before the at Um they had the playoff game. Uh,
the at the Journey. Yeah, Georgian Georgia, the Georgia Dome.
YEA and Me and Ludicrous and um Jermaine dupre performed
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at halftime I think, and it was really dope. Yeah,
so your favorite, that's that's great. I didn't expect you
to say the super Bowl was your favorite moment, but
I was. I was because I was I was talking reckless. Yeah,
I was talking to those those those other things like yo.
It was like, it feel good. It felt good for
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that moment. You know, it was short lived, but I
felt good. Uh. I was gonna ask you what your
your your low moment is. I'm guessing it was that.
They too, Yes, it was me trying to sneak out
of the game a little early and getting caught by TMG.
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Why are you leaving only I'm like, I'm trying to
beat traffic. They like, and then they posted it on
Team I'm seeing. Yeah, you performed right after after at
the post super Bowl party, Right I did? I did? Yes,
it was a little tough, but you know I was
gonna ask it was that tough to do? Yeah, because
you know, before halftime, we was all excited, you know
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what I'm saying. I was like, Oh, it's gonna be crazy.
We're gonna celebrate we Houston and then buy third quarters
just like man and fourth quarters like damn. And then
when the game was over, I was like, so we
went and we still made it the best. But you know,
you know how it is like you know, people wouldn't
really there for a performance like they you know, they
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wanted to come and leave it that that big w
So I feel them heartbreaking loss, but it it will
go down as probably one of the most exciting Super
Bowls ever. Not that not that any Falcons fan ever
wants to hear that. But when you think of twenty
sixteen and then even ninety eight when they also went
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to Super Bowl. What's a city like when when the
when the team is winning? When when What's how is
Atlanta different? It's a city different when you have a
winner like that? What's explained that vibe? It's just like
it's a celebration, it is a's a it's a bragging point,
it's a. Um, it's just one of those things for
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being from a city and having that pride, you know.
And it's like football is a sport that's very close
to our coaching, you know. So it's basketball, but football
is one of those sports and it's just like you know,
when you win it and you up, you know, everybody
loves a winner. You know, everybody loves a winner. So
you know, it's just one of the things where you
get to cow you get to celebrate the city and
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celebrate the win. It's like you was a part of
the team. And um, I think it's like that for
any city that really you know, supports their their their
their teams. You know. I went to Cleveland one time
for a basketball our game and I was like, Yo,
everybody in there spending those white towels. I'm just like, Yo,
this is crazy. Lebron was there. Yeah, And you know
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that's that's a lot of pride. And maybe because it's
Cleveland and in basketball is a big thing there, that's
like the biggest thing they do. But I feel like Atlanta,
since we so diverse, we got so many things going on, um,
but still like we always want to get behind, you know,
our team when they got there on the good street,
even though we should be behind all the time. But
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when you start hearing abody those Falcons, they're doing good
and everybody want to you know what I mean, everybody
went up on the bandwagon. But one thing I do
love to see. And I've been to a lot of cities.
I've never seen um a tailgate party like an Atlanta
Falcons tailgate party. Yeah, it's different. I'll tell you what.
When this team I'm saying, when this team finally wins
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a super Bowl, right boy, there's gonna be a hardy here.
Like yeah, speaking to an existence, speaking to an existence,
There's gonna be a party here probably like any unlike
any other city. I can just imagine the existence. Well, listen,
last one more thing I want to ask you about
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the Falcons here before we move on a little bit.
Here you mentioned Dion. What player do you think got
this city more excited? Because three of them stick out
to me? And maybe you'll name somebody else, but I
think a Dion Sanders Primetime, I think of Michael Vick,
and I think it Julio Jones. M what is it?
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Go ahead? I would say Michael Vick, Okay, because I
went to a game and I think he was playing
for another team Philadelphia. Yes, yeah, you gotta standing ovation.
I'm just like, how does that work? When he came
on the fields, like it was like respect given it.
I was just I just couldn't believe. I was just
like they played for a whole No, it's weird, but
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um and this city, yeah, it don't get me wrong,
like like prime time is this is he the goat?
You know what I'm saying, guy, But I just think,
um for underdog Mike Vick, he had that. He was
like he was the people's Sam. He was the guy
that you know had it all and and and you
know it just you know, it didn't work out for him,
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but everybody knows he's great. You know what I'm saying, Hey, Todd,
So just like to see him get that applaud in
the city. I know that had to make him emotional
as well. And I love the fact they brought him
out when they did, Um you guys did with right
right right? I love that, you know, Yeah, yeah, it's
you know, that was a cool thing, you know because
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he he went through a lot and you know, paid
his due and uh, you know, he fought back and
he played pretty well too in Philadelphia, and um, it
was great to see, you know, the Falcon's owner Arthur Blaine,
and the Falcons just kind of embrace him. Tom and
the whole thing come full circle. And I think a
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lot of people relate related to that whole journey with him.
I don't know, but well, listen, let's let's talk about
your latest work a little bit here. Um it's called
The Recession too. That's about to drop correct, yes, Friday night,
twelve am. Whatever music is streamed or sold well with
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everything going on in the world right now that you know,
with the pandemic and there's so much change going on
in our climate, and there's a lot of you know,
a lot of conversations going on in our country, some
of them uncomfortable, but they're all good for the most part. Um,
you know, where is there when you when you think
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of this, this latest work of years. Is there some
underlying message or is there something that you're conveying or
that you want to convey with this with picular song
or the this, this whole thing, this whole project. I
just feel like it's um in for minds. I just
feel like I took the time to pin down my
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true feelings about how I see things happening and occurring
and even I mean, you're here in Atlanta, like one
minute everything's good and the next minute people are riding
and looting and marching. It just like what happened, you
know what I'm saying, And it just it was so
many things that happened in a short period of time
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and with everybody being still because of the pandemic, that
really just made me go, Okay, it's time to get
the journal back out and really released some of my
m my my pent up tension and my you know,
pent up not understanding and put it back into the music.
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I think that's would inspire me because it was a
lot to talk about. You know, of course make music
great music, but it's just like, how can I message
just in a way that we take a mental snapshot
of what just happened and we not moved past it
like everything else we do. And what sound, what sound
captures that? And that was the goal, like to get
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a sound and captures that. So when you hear that,
you go, yeah, I remember when that happened. And the
message I would say it was just like you know,
mobilizing and uniting. You know. I heard someone say one
of my guys from NUBLECP told me that, um, last
year's early voters was I mean last elections early voters
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was like six hundred and fifty thousand, but this time
around it was like one point five one point six.
That just shows you people are getting the message, you know. Yeah,
and that was that was a big and think about
as our state, everybody around the world sitting back to
see what our state is going to do. So what
no matter what side you want, because we all together,
is the fact that, you know, we mobilize and we
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got some traction. And I think that's the beautiful thing
about it is that people see that it moved the needle.
So now not that Biden is the end all be all,
you know what, but the middle has been moved. The
ship has happened, change is happening. But that was because
of you, you, you and you and you and you
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and you and you and now you understand that when
you do, you know, participate, anything could happened, you know.
So that that's what I was happy to see in
the music to me, you know, it represents that like
just let's be on the same page. Whatever that is
whatever that means to you. Let's just all you know,
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you know, be on the same page and move that way.
It's just like, um, it's unity. It's what it is.
You know what I'm saying. It's like, let's not separate it,
like like, let's bring it all together. You know that's awesome.
Do you feel like that this in some ways is
one of your most important works because of that? Yeah,
I said that about the last recession, the first recession,
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But yeah, I think this time around, I had more knowledge,
I had more resources, and I had different conversations, and
I had it. You know, I thought my mind was
opened then, but I have more of an open mind now.
You know what I'm saying, I'm not here to judge anybody,
to tell anybody how to feel and what to think.
I'm just saying, whatever we do, let's just do it together.
I think that's all of us being honest, whatever I think.
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And you know, like being on the football team, it's
just like, you know, if everybody's on the same page,
you win, right. You know. That's uh, that's awesome to hear.
And I love it when people like you who have
such a large stage and in a big microphone say
things like that because I think it's so it's so
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important man, and that's awesome. I can't wait to hear
it and to get my copy. And yeah, yeah, for sure,
twelve o'clock downloaded. Um. One thing I'm dying to ask
you about is is in the early days of the
pandemic on social media, you posted something in you posted
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a video and you you put you had like a
message of hope and encouragement to people out there, and
you actually gave out your your number. You said to
people that text you. UM, and I just thought, wow,
that's that's incredible. UM. And I'm thinking this could go
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a lot of different ways for him. UM. What kind
of responses did you get? This is just like my
own curiosity. I don't know if you've talked about this
at all, But what kind of responses did you get?
Did any of them move you? Surprise you? And what
was the best thing that came out of it? Is
there like a great story? I think just him, you know,
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just being there to text people back that was giving
up you know what I'm saying, people who just couldn't
see it, the uncertainty, and to talk to a lot
of people that was dealing with mental issues that you
know amplified just over time. You know, people were lonely,
people were confused, you know, yeah, lost their jobs and
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trying to figure things out. And it happened so fast.
It's like you know, how many of how many of
us was really truly prepared for that. So it was
just one of those things like you know, to put
it out there and I would just go through Texas
and now and then and be like, yo, keep your
head up. And you know that that's not physically doing
anything anybody. But like I said again, like you never
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know until you know, like your words could encourage, stop, save,
you know, all these things, it can actually do it,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So for me, it's
just like every platform I have, I'm just all about
that um words of encouragement, like you know, and I
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know growing up that affected me because that's one of
my triggers, if you will, that has to do with
my traumas. It is like people are always telling me
that I couldn't do something, and and that just made me.
I use that for the jet fuel. That just made
me want to go harder and do better. And and
I know, you know everybody ain't wired like that. So
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if I can just some type of words and encouragement
or give them a little knowledge here in there. I mean,
you know, sometimes I read quotes and be like, damn okay,
today it's gonna be a good day, you know, and
it's just something somebody put up, and it just resonated
with me, and I'm like, damn okay, I get that,
and and and then you kind of go from there.
So sometimes you know, your words are more powerful than
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you know, and even just the gesture of um being
concerned about somebody else, because the thing about it there is,
you know a lot of people feel like they don't matter. Yea.
In the minute you give somebody that respect, you know,
you might you could possibly change their whole life, you
know what I'm saying, no question about it. You know.
I I didn't know what you were gonna say, or
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what kind of stories or what kind of feedback you got.
But uh, when I saw that, I thought, man, he
is really you know, you're you're kind of exposing yourself
there a little bit, and you're but you at the
same time, you're probably gonna change some some woman, some guy,
some girls life. Right. Oh yeah, but I did. I
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did get in those couple of man the bills due
next month, and you put my my account like I
was gonna ask about that too many. I got a
few of those. My cash app is, uh, this is
my Venmo account right. Yeah, I'm like, man, that's I'm
(28:50):
sure you did. Um, I'm sure, I'm sure you got
some funny ones too. Uh. We'll just probably leave that there. Uh,
that's awesome. No, I saw that. I just had to
ask you about that. I thought I thought that was
pretty great. Um, because words do matter and you know that.
Um So, speaking of words, you're in the podcast space
(29:12):
with something called the re Session or is it just
for session because when you look at the title of
it has re and then sessions. Yeah, it's kind of
a cool name. Um So what's that space like and
and and what's the what's what do you enjoy most about,
you know, having the podcast? And I just listened to
(29:33):
your most recent one with Somebody with with Somebody's brother donated.
Uh yeah, actually that was just like a freeway. Um yeah. Uh.
He's also an artist and what he experienced was kitney
failure and to get on this long donor's list to
get a kidney. Yeah, and you know, he had to
(29:56):
go through dialysis and do all these things he was
telling about how he was paying for out of his pocket.
He didn't have any insurance and he finally got a kidney,
and not too not too long after that, his teenage
son was tragically killed and he had to He ended
up donating his son's organs for somebody else's son, because
(30:19):
somebody saved somebody's son saved his life. So he donated
his son's organs to say, somebody else's life. And in
the midst of that, when we speaking, his daughter was
to the right of him, which she was about thirteen fourteen.
She was just diagnosed with cancer and I'm like, yo,
how are you dealing me with all this? And he
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was like, I was just keeping my faith. But that's
what that podcast is about, talking to real people about
real situations, because even though I might didn't experience that
per se, there's somebody out there in the world that
thinks that their life or their world is overdone with
because of the hurt and so much like you know,
(31:04):
why me and just to hear somebody else's story make
you go wow, because you got people out here and
it makes you think about the things you complain about.
You got people out here complaining about Instagram, post and
filters and you know why it is and why that
and a man tired of the pandemic. I can't go anywhere.
It's just like, but people are going through a real
life situation. So this is just to reiterate that people
(31:29):
are out here go through real things and they come
out on top. And my first guest for him was
Tony Robbins and the inspirational Yeah, And I thought it
would be good because you know, that's always been my lane,
but to actually speak to somebody else who does it
on a different level and us to kind of go
back and forth about, you know, what we think the
(31:50):
world needs more of. And my question Naim was like,
what do you think the world needs more of? And
the first thing he said was compassion. I'm like, hmm, noted.
And I think it's good for my culture to hear
him say things like that because you kind of, you know,
you kind of connecting the dots, you know, just across
the spectrum. You're talking about things that really makes sense
(32:14):
if you just you know, sit back and look at
it and not be so emotional and tedious about it.
We hate, you know, we're hating and all these other
things are going to just go. Hey, look like you know,
we all got to be here. What I'm saying? What
do we do? You know? It's one of those things. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the things that you know, stood out too
(32:35):
about that conversation with Freeway was didn't he say there
was like four different people whose lives were saved. He
gave four of his son's organs away. Somebody got his heart,
so I got his lungs, somebody's lever. Some of us
think about that, this is the conversation you have it
and I'm like, wow, Like then you got to look
(32:57):
at the blessing in it too. Yeah, he saved somebody
else's life. So he wasn't in vain, you know, but
somebody saved his life with a kidney. Yeah, that's how
he even got um to be a part of that
organization and understand what don't even meant because you know
a lot of people like I don't want to be
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an donor because or this. It's just like, but you
have the ability to save someone else's life. And when
people were out here like one of our guys, Scarface
and we was talked about him in this um this
particular podcast. Scar Face is um going through it right
now because he's trying to get a kidney, and this
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is somebody we look up to as a living legend.
And it's just like wow, like you know, and and
when you hear these things. But the thing that I
took away from this conversation was that they know each
other and he was able to have a conversation with
scar Face about where he went through and he was
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would to be there for him to help him mentally
as he's going through this process. And I think that
that's divine that one person's you know, sacrifice and and
and things that happened to you, that you can take
that pain and share it with somebody else to give
them comfort. I think that's crazy. Yeah. I listened to it,
and uh, I'll tell you what, I didn't really have
(34:24):
a strong opinion about organ donation, right, you know, before
and after I heard that, and he talked about reading
the letter right right right sounds letter rights. Yeah, it
was deep yeah, and and and just wrapping his head
around that, um, it makes me want to make sure
that I'm an organ donor now right right? And also
(34:47):
that makes you, so kudos to you in your podcast
for that. So I think it also makes you want
to take care of yourself more. And that's what I
that's what I took away from it. Health is a
real thing. Sure, I mean, like we gotta do it.
We gotta do it. Get your water and take kind
of hydrate. I got mine right here, um with me
both baby, I got the rise up cup here um
(35:11):
from the stadium. So that's awesome. I'm really that's you're
enjoying it, I take it. I mean just those just
those kind of conversations are life changing. And uh um,
that's pretty cool that you're doing that. Where can people
um find your podcast? You can find it pretty much everywhere,
um you get your podcast, it's called the Recessing Podcast.
(35:35):
Conjunction with Charlemagne the God and Black Effect Um actually
on there, we're premiering moll snippets of you know, different
songs yep from the album. And I think the song
that we played with him was a neo record I
have on the album that feating Neo that's called the
Glory because about it's about believing you know what I'm
(35:56):
saying and just knowing there's a high power and just
you know, step in the name of that and just
knowing that you ain't fighting none of this by yourself.
Somebody got you, you know. So it's a dope song.
I'm ready for this to come out now. Yeah, I
can't wait. And how often do you drop episodes for that?
Just curious? On Monday Mondays? Every Monday? Okay, every Monday yep, okay,
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wherever your podcast is, wherever you get your podcasts yep
or the re session podcast yep, r E session got it?
Good stuff? I love that. And so, uh, there's two
things I just want to cover with you before um
we let you go. And this has been awesome. I've
(36:39):
really enjoyed talking to you. Um you got there's a
little uh, but this is going to come out on Thursday.
And on Thursday, UM, there's a little little versus battle
about to go down. You want to, um, you want
to talk a little bit about that and give us
a little tease. What's going on on their third nineteenth? Yes,
(37:01):
it's gonna be you know, the Super Bowl all over again.
You got two guys from the you know, the city
of Atlanta that you know that um that you know
have history and and for the first time ever. You know,
we're gonna be in one room and we're gonna you know,
play music and talk about it. Yes, so it should be.
(37:25):
It's gonna be interesting, you know what I mean. But
I can't wait. You know, the nineteen can't come soon enough.
You know, it's been a long time coming. And for
those who don't know, how can they watch and listen
to that? Versus TV? Because when I think on Instagram
and Apple TV as well, Apples involved as well. All right,
(37:46):
that's gonna be uh Thursday evening at eight o'clock of them. Yeah, yeah,
must must watch TV though, sir, Yes, sir, make sure
you have your snowman shirt off. Take the Falcons and
put your snow Man on. I gotta get me one.
I gotta get one. Yeah, we gotta put that one on. Um.
Speaking of Hey, before I ask you about the Falcons,
(38:06):
wrapped this up with the Falcons. What do you think
of their What do you think in the new uniforms?
I love it. I actually got a new one, um,
because somebody asked me why. I was just talking though,
but you know, I was like, maybe because of the
new jerseys, we didn't go back to the old jerseys.
But I actually like the new jersey from Mons. I
think it's though. I actually they sent me. When I
have upstairs, I'm gonna get it framed. So what numbers
(38:29):
I don't know, you know what number of their jerseys? Oh? One?
Number one seems one of one. Um, what's your favorite combination?
You like the black, You're like the grade, ain't You're
like the white? I like the black? Okay, black, I'm
black or black, you know, stronger than that black? I
like black personally. So that just that goes right up
(38:51):
my alley. You like the You still like the retros? Yes, yeah, yes,
classically they can't go wrong. Red CHROs in the p Jordans.
You win. We just need we just need some rings now.
So let's wrap this up with the Falcons. Uh, you know,
since since Raheem Morris has taken over there three and one, okay,
(39:12):
and and uh you know they got the Saints coming
up right Sunday. In fact, they played the Saints twice
in the next three weeks. Wow. And you know, you know,
being a Falcons fan with that rivalries all about it,
that's like a whole rivalry thing. Um, it's going to
be interesting though, because there's no fans in the stands,
and sometimes you need that m Because I remember the
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last Falcons game I went to when they played New Orleans.
Little Wayne was there. He was in the sky box
and I was in the skybox and we was yelling
back and forth to each other. It was like a
real thing. It's like a real thing. Yeah, what do
you think of what's your prediction as a fan? How
do you think they're gonna wrap up with these next
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seven games? And what is your hope? You know, because
you know they you know, they made some changes and
they're going to get a new GM and Raheem Morris
is in the running to be the head coach. He
keeps winning, he's gonna be right there. But as a fan,
I just got to ask it, what's your hope for
the rest of the season, and then what's your hope
heading into twenty twenty one with this team and where
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this franchise is gone? Um I think, um if my
mind is like I just wanted to keep it tight,
like you know, I wanted to keep it tight and um,
you know, bring bring one home. Um these next couple
of games. It's just you know, if if that's still
record now I'm just staying focused. Don't sit the kool
age just yet, and dig in some more and um,
(40:40):
you know, let's get the city back hype again, you know,
and and just remember that spirit of people being in
those stands and what that felt like. So know that
they're playing and working towards that. So when it get
you know, when it gets back there, you know we're back,
we're back on point. But until then, you know, they
got to remember that the city's behind them, you know.
Love that for sure. And I loved this. I don't
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know how long I had you here, but I loved
every minute of it. Was awesome, man. I appreciate you
for having me. Good dog and shout out to the
Foul because it shout out to the city. I see, y'all.
Don't forget to get that album though,
Ladies and gentlemen today is a huge deal, a big
deal for this show. Uh. In fact, I don't even
know if I can refer to this show as bird
Noises anymore. I'll tell you why, because Bird Noises just
went boom with our next guest. Let me welcome the
atl's one and only, Geezy. Welcome to Bird Noises, Jeezy.
(00:22):
Thanks so pleasure to be here, baby boom boom. I
love it. Thanks for coming on, man, So thanks for
having me. Yeah, it's so good to have you here.
You know, it was pretty cool a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
it was a couple of weeks ago when we had
Goody Mob on here several weeks ago, weeks ago. But
this is pretty awesome. Dope, man, dope. Shout out to
(00:45):
the fellas for stopping through. Man. Yeah, they were awesome.
They were good good. Yeah, great guys. We had a
lot of fun um and so I just want to
thank you for taking time out of your I'm sure
you've got a hectic schedule, but it's it's always good
to uh have somebody to like you on this show.
The show is like, you know, it's a twenty fourth episode,
so it's right it's it's new still, yes, yeah, So, uh,
(01:10):
I want to talk to you about growing up in
Atlanta being a Falcons fan. Um. One of the other
things I want to talk to you about it was
just your memories, um, just being a Falcons fan here
in this city. Uh, players, coaches, seasons, that kind of stuff.
But I also want to talk about your latest work,
The Recession, too. Uh. And I understand you have your
own podcast out. I was listening to a little bit
(01:32):
of that. It's called the Recession, right, yes? Is that
is that? Did I get it right? Ression? Ression? And
then there's a certain you know, if you want to
get into a later certain versus battle coming up in
two days. If you want to talk a little bit
about that, we can at the end. But first, let's
(01:53):
just uh. One thing I do with every guest here, jeez,
is uh um. It's kind of show staple, and it's
this the name of this podcast is it's kind of
it's different Bird Noises. Okay. So one of the things
that I do is I ask every guest what do
they think in the name bird Noises? And the only
(02:16):
requirement is that you just be brutally honest. Right. I
think it's weird. Yeah, okay, and it's different, definitely beard
and different. I'll tell you what. We've had some people
love it. Jesse Tuggle the hammer uh loves it. We
(02:38):
had some coaches that said, yeah, it needs a little juice.
Celo said he wanted it. He thinks it should be
called bird. That's that's that's different. And so so, you know,
I thought it might be kind of cool. I was
sitting here thinking about you coming on, and it's not
often we get somebody on here. How do I say
(03:00):
this that's a lyrical expert, has some lyrical expertise like you.
So if I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you this question.
I thought it might be fun if you were in
charge of coming up with a name for this podcast,
which is a podcast about Falcons football but mostly everything else,
something that had to cut through the noise a little bit,
(03:22):
be a little different. What would you name this podcast podcast?
What would you name it? Dirty bird podcast? Dirty Bird podcast?
All right, I think I know where you're going a
little bit here, So let's talk a little Falcons, uh,
shall we? Um? Let's get it here. So you know,
(03:46):
when I knew you grew up in Atlanta, obviously, when
did you become a Falcons fan? Oh Man, Dione Sanders
that whole era, late eighties. Yeah, ain't wearing the Falcon's
jersey and the Falcons started coat. Um it was what
I remember. And um, the colors I remember just growing
(04:09):
I'm looking at the colors. I loved the black and red.
I just feel like it was just strong, solid, and um,
I love the um the bird as well. Yeah when
you see it, you know it that was one of
the old one, the old one, the other one. And yeah,
just you know, watching my uncles and everybody get around,
get around the TV for a Falcon's game and yeah,
(04:30):
you know, I'm just you know, hearing about it wanting
to go to the actual game, but it was a
while before as able to actually go to a game though.
It was surreal, like being in that stadium, um, like
watching what was going on on the field and watching
the people in the stands. It was a real experience,
definitely the first time I went, because I just gotta
(04:52):
feel for, um, you know, how things go down, because
we see it on TV. It looks different. Yeah you
actually there, you're in it. And I used to be like,
why the not yelling as loud, you know what I mean,
Why you can't hear what's going on in the field.
So it's almost like do you watch it at home?
That type of thing. So when Dan got here, uh,
you know, he came, there was a lot of pomp
and circumstance when he came out of FSU, right, and uh,
(05:17):
not long after they changed, you know, the jerseys the look,
you know, and Andre rise and got here, Jerry Glanville.
They went to the All Black Rum. But the Falcons
they didn't win. They were they were pretty good, but
they didn't. You know, it's not like they were collecting rings,
but they had a certain what was it about him?
(05:38):
I don't want to put words in him out, but
what was it about that team that era specifically? That's
just different, you know, being a Falcons fan, what's different
about the Falcons from other teams and other cities. I
think it's Atlanta, if I'm being honest. Atlanta is just
a different city. I remember when the Olympics came and
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people really got a chance to a glimpse of what
Atlanta was. Atlanta's magical and I think for the Falcons
to be a team that represents Atlanta and they go
hand in hand, and we support our own. Like the
games are almost like you know, parties. It is a
good time and it's experience and it's what you want
to do. If you got people in town or family
(06:20):
in town, you gotta go catch the Falcons game. It's
just like the thing to do. So I think they
go hand in hand. I think Atlanta is a city
of entrepreneurs, is a city of big business. It continues
to grow, so with that we get new fans, you know,
as a seasons change, and then you know, you gotta
really look at it. It's just like Atlanta is a
(06:41):
fun city. We got great nightlife, you know what I'm saying.
We got we got, we got um you know, our
own culture when it comes to the music. You know
what I'm saying. This is just so many different elements
to go together. And then we got a dope football team,
you know what I mean. It has dope colors, and
you know, this time around, we've got a bunch of
(07:01):
young guys on it that you might see out on
a day to day to represent the team. So it
just feels like home grown and home pride, if you will.
It's pretty awesome. So yeah, when you think of the Steelers,
you think of that blue collar steel town, right, lunch
pal and they. When you think of the cowboys, you
think of like the Triplets, right, Captain America, try m
(07:23):
at Michael, Right. But when you think of Atlanta, you
think of the party, is the culture, the swag, yeah yea,
and people come it's like a sensible people come here
and they leave with something in Atlanta is one of
those cities you can move to and actually be successful.
A lot of cities you can't. You know, you get
there and the resources ain't there. But Atlanta is full
of like resources and people that's continuously in and out
(07:45):
of here and building and and and networking. And it's
just like Angel too, right, Yeah, everything happens in Atlanta, everything,
like you name it. If it's movies, we got it.
If it's music, we got it. If it's if it's events,
we got it. If it's politics, we don't. Yeah. I
mean it's just like a whole thing, you know, even
for the super Bowl to be here, Like I've been
to a lot of different Super Bowls, but when it
(08:07):
was hosted in our stadium, it was clean, it was
like seamless. Traffic went too crazy, it's just dope, you know,
it's Atlanta. Yeah, it's you know, it's funny when you
describe it like that. It's just it's it's it's constantly changing,
but it's growing too, Is that fair? I mean, like
when you think in New York, you think of the Skyline, right,
and you think of when you think of San Francisco,
(08:27):
you think of the Golden gate Bridge. When we think
of Atlantic, the Skyline, it's it's it's constantly changing. Yeah,
and and that's the day. I mean, there are parts
that are staples, right, But even when I go out
of town and come back, UM, there's always something different.
A building where one used to be at Um, a
new restaurant that open um. You know, people getting their
(08:51):
own businesses and and turning strip malls into things like
it's the home of the entrepreneur if you ask me. So,
you know, whether it's real estate or or you know,
building skyscrapers, it goes on. If you look at Buckhead,
it is definitely expanded. It doesn't look the same from
the shops of Buckhead, like you I remember when that
(09:12):
was all just nightclubs over there. Yeah, and like I
would have never saw that one coming but you can
look at it even um uh Atlantic Station. You know
that was totally something else, and you look at it
now as a whole. It's a whole ecosystem. It's crazy,
you know what I mean. So I just think that
part of dope. And I also, you know, love the
(09:34):
fact that, like you know, even though our malls or
our malls and and we still have other things that
make you want to visit Buckhead and we still have
other things that make you want to if it's the
belt Line or um, any of those days. So much
to do in Atlanta, Georgia, like you could be here
and for a we can not do at all, you know, yeah, everything,
(09:57):
It's just so many different cuts and and um, it's
culture is what it is. It's dope. It's really dope.
Um what do you think it? What do you think? So?
I think I think you just answered the question, but
I'm gonna ask you anyway. You know, there's just when
you think of Atlanta and you think of the athletes
that have played here, Dion Sanders, you mentioned Andrea Rising,
(10:18):
Jerry Glanville, Michael Vic. What is it about those guys
that just draws fans or vice versa. You know, what
is it about when you think Atlanta in those personalities,
those are the guys that really flourish and thrive here.
I think I think it's relatability can relate to him.
(10:39):
They look like your uncle, you know, they act like
your uncle, one of your cousins, you know, with the
college for football and made it to the pros. They're personable, Yeah,
and they become the people's stamps, like Mike people's samp,
you know what I mean. Beyond was he was prime time,
like you just had to see it. Andre Risen just
(10:59):
you know, he just had it. And when you think
of these uh, certain athletes, they just got that that
that it factor, you know what they have that you
know that you can kind of look up to him
but feel like if you're still cool with him at
the same time, I mean quite sure if you're in
Ittodon in his in his prime, he'd probably speak, take
a picture of high five, you know, crack a few jokes,
(11:20):
and he walked away like man, you know wow, you
know it's that you know, but I think you have
you met a lot of those guys, Yeah, yeah, of course,
of course, of course. Um. Actually, Haddon on my talk show,
I have a talk show on Fox Soul that airs
every Wednesday night at seven pm Pacific and ten pm Eastern,
(11:42):
so it's called Worth the Conversation and was actually one
of my guests and we talked and we chopped it up.
And that's the thing. Like I met Dion at a
at a screening for US documentary and we just instantly
became cool when we just kept in contact, and that's
that thing of me. And I hit him up. I'm like,
I'm on the show. I would love to have you
against He was like, I'm there. And the next day
(12:03):
I turned around and did his podcast. So it's you know,
it's just he's being personable with people and and I
think that's that's that's that's what makes it dope. He's
getting into what do you think about him getting into coaching? Now,
how do you think he'll do it? Yeah, I think
it's you know, he has the wisdom he would go Again,
It's like, I just got a position at um def
(12:24):
Jam Records, which is the label that I called home
throughout my whole career, and now from a senior advisor
to the chairman, which is like a coach because I
have knowledge that I've learned over time that it's still valuable.
And I think with Dion, he's he's personable, he's relatable,
but he's very his football IQ is very high. So
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like he can go in there and relate to those
kids in a way that the average person can't because
he knows their struggle. You know what I'm saying. He's
gonna take the time to meet their parents, but then
their dad's going home, Like, oh man, Dion Sanders's coaching.
This is crazy, you know what I'm saying. So is
that you know, I'm sure he'll do really well when
he comes into the living room and sits with mom
and dad. I mean, that's right. Guy has a lot
(13:09):
of personality. That guy just got it. You feel he'll
be a great recruiter, no doubt. So let me ask you,
you reference the Dirty Birds. What what's your favorite memory
or moment as a Falcon's fan growing up or just well,
my favorite memory, yeah, was the time that we almost
(13:32):
won the Super Bowl and I was I was in Houston, Texas,
and he was going down. It was up I think
two or three touchdowns and you couldn't tell me nothing.
That was like short lived, but it was my favorite
moment because really had my jersey all, I had my gloves.
(13:56):
And my second favorite moment as a Falcon's fan was
right before the at Um they had the playoff game. Uh,
the at the Journey. Yeah, Georgian Georgia, the Georgia Dome.
YEA and Me and Ludicrous and um Jermaine dupre performed
(14:19):
at halftime I think, and it was really dope. Yeah,
so your favorite, that's that's great. I didn't expect you
to say the super Bowl was your favorite moment, but
I was. I was because I was I was talking reckless. Yeah,
I was talking to those those those other things like yo.
It was like, it feel good. It felt good for
(14:40):
that moment. You know, it was short lived, but I
felt good. Uh. I was gonna ask you what your
your your low moment is. I'm guessing it was that.
They too, Yes, it was me trying to sneak out
of the game a little early and getting caught by TMG.
(15:00):
Why are you leaving only I'm like, I'm trying to
beat traffic. They like, and then they posted it on
Team I'm seeing. Yeah, you performed right after after at
the post super Bowl party, Right I did? I did? Yes,
it was a little tough, but you know I was
gonna ask it was that tough to do? Yeah, because
you know, before halftime, we was all excited, you know
(15:20):
what I'm saying. I was like, Oh, it's gonna be crazy.
We're gonna celebrate we Houston and then buy third quarters
just like man and fourth quarters like damn. And then
when the game was over, I was like, so we
went and we still made it the best. But you know,
you know how it is like you know, people wouldn't
really there for a performance like they you know, they
(15:41):
wanted to come and leave it that that big w
So I feel them heartbreaking loss, but it it will
go down as probably one of the most exciting Super
Bowls ever. Not that not that any Falcons fan ever
wants to hear that. But when you think of twenty
sixteen and then even ninety eight when they also went
(16:02):
to Super Bowl. What's a city like when when the
when the team is winning? When when What's how is
Atlanta different? It's a city different when you have a
winner like that? What's explained that vibe? It's just like
it's a celebration, it is a's a it's a bragging point,
it's a. Um, it's just one of those things for
(16:24):
being from a city and having that pride, you know.
And it's like football is a sport that's very close
to our coaching, you know. So it's basketball, but football
is one of those sports and it's just like you know,
when you win it and you up, you know, everybody
loves a winner. You know, everybody loves a winner. So
you know, it's just one of the things where you
get to cow you get to celebrate the city and
(16:46):
celebrate the win. It's like you was a part of
the team. And um, I think it's like that for
any city that really you know, supports their their their
their teams. You know. I went to Cleveland one time
for a basketball our game and I was like, Yo,
everybody in there spending those white towels. I'm just like, Yo,
this is crazy. Lebron was there. Yeah, And you know
(17:11):
that's that's a lot of pride. And maybe because it's
Cleveland and in basketball is a big thing there, that's
like the biggest thing they do. But I feel like Atlanta,
since we so diverse, we got so many things going on, um,
but still like we always want to get behind, you know,
our team when they got there on the good street,
even though we should be behind all the time. But
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when you start hearing abody those Falcons, they're doing good
and everybody want to you know what I mean, everybody
went up on the bandwagon. But one thing I do
love to see. And I've been to a lot of cities.
I've never seen um a tailgate party like an Atlanta
Falcons tailgate party. Yeah, it's different. I'll tell you what.
When this team I'm saying, when this team finally wins
(17:56):
a super Bowl, right boy, there's gonna be a hardy here.
Like yeah, speaking to an existence, speaking to an existence,
There's gonna be a party here probably like any unlike
any other city. I can just imagine the existence. Well, listen,
last one more thing I want to ask you about
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the Falcons here before we move on a little bit.
Here you mentioned Dion. What player do you think got
this city more excited? Because three of them stick out
to me? And maybe you'll name somebody else, but I
think a Dion Sanders Primetime, I think of Michael Vick,
and I think it Julio Jones. M what is it?
(18:41):
Go ahead? I would say Michael Vick, Okay, because I
went to a game and I think he was playing
for another team Philadelphia. Yes, yeah, you gotta standing ovation.
I'm just like, how does that work? When he came
on the fields, like it was like respect given it.
I was just I just couldn't believe. I was just
like they played for a whole No, it's weird, but
(19:02):
um and this city, yeah, it don't get me wrong,
like like prime time is this is he the goat?
You know what I'm saying, guy, But I just think,
um for underdog Mike Vick, he had that. He was
like he was the people's Sam. He was the guy
that you know had it all and and and you
know it just you know, it didn't work out for him,
(19:23):
but everybody knows he's great. You know what I'm saying, Hey, Todd,
So just like to see him get that applaud in
the city. I know that had to make him emotional
as well. And I love the fact they brought him
out when they did, Um you guys did with right
right right? I love that, you know, Yeah, yeah, it's
you know, that was a cool thing, you know because
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he he went through a lot and you know, paid
his due and uh, you know, he fought back and
he played pretty well too in Philadelphia, and um, it
was great to see, you know, the Falcon's owner Arthur Blaine,
and the Falcons just kind of embrace him. Tom and
the whole thing come full circle. And I think a
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lot of people relate related to that whole journey with him.
I don't know, but well, listen, let's let's talk about
your latest work a little bit here. Um it's called
The Recession too. That's about to drop correct, yes, Friday night,
twelve am. Whatever music is streamed or sold well with
(20:29):
everything going on in the world right now that you know,
with the pandemic and there's so much change going on
in our climate, and there's a lot of you know,
a lot of conversations going on in our country, some
of them uncomfortable, but they're all good for the most part. Um,
you know, where is there when you when you think
(20:50):
of this, this latest work of years. Is there some
underlying message or is there something that you're conveying or
that you want to convey with this with picular song
or the this, this whole thing, this whole project. I
just feel like it's um in for minds. I just
feel like I took the time to pin down my
(21:12):
true feelings about how I see things happening and occurring
and even I mean, you're here in Atlanta, like one
minute everything's good and the next minute people are riding
and looting and marching. It just like what happened, you
know what I'm saying, And it just it was so
many things that happened in a short period of time
(21:33):
and with everybody being still because of the pandemic, that
really just made me go, Okay, it's time to get
the journal back out and really released some of my
m my my pent up tension and my you know,
pent up not understanding and put it back into the music.
(21:54):
I think that's would inspire me because it was a
lot to talk about. You know, of course make music
great music, but it's just like, how can I message
just in a way that we take a mental snapshot
of what just happened and we not moved past it
like everything else we do. And what sound, what sound
captures that? And that was the goal, like to get
(22:16):
a sound and captures that. So when you hear that,
you go, yeah, I remember when that happened. And the
message I would say it was just like you know,
mobilizing and uniting. You know. I heard someone say one
of my guys from NUBLECP told me that, um, last
year's early voters was I mean last elections early voters
(22:39):
was like six hundred and fifty thousand, but this time
around it was like one point five one point six.
That just shows you people are getting the message, you know. Yeah,
and that was that was a big and think about
as our state, everybody around the world sitting back to
see what our state is going to do. So what
no matter what side you want, because we all together,
is the fact that, you know, we mobilize and we
(23:03):
got some traction. And I think that's the beautiful thing
about it is that people see that it moved the needle.
So now not that Biden is the end all be all,
you know what, but the middle has been moved. The
ship has happened, change is happening. But that was because
of you, you, you and you and you and you
(23:24):
and you and you and now you understand that when
you do, you know, participate, anything could happened, you know.
So that that's what I was happy to see in
the music to me, you know, it represents that like
just let's be on the same page. Whatever that is
whatever that means to you. Let's just all you know,
(23:46):
you know, be on the same page and move that way.
It's just like, um, it's unity. It's what it is.
You know what I'm saying. It's like, let's not separate it,
like like, let's bring it all together. You know that's awesome.
Do you feel like that this in some ways is
one of your most important works because of that? Yeah,
I said that about the last recession, the first recession,
(24:07):
But yeah, I think this time around, I had more knowledge,
I had more resources, and I had different conversations, and
I had it. You know, I thought my mind was
opened then, but I have more of an open mind now.
You know what I'm saying, I'm not here to judge anybody,
to tell anybody how to feel and what to think.
I'm just saying, whatever we do, let's just do it together.
I think that's all of us being honest, whatever I think.
(24:30):
And you know, like being on the football team, it's
just like, you know, if everybody's on the same page,
you win, right. You know. That's uh, that's awesome to hear.
And I love it when people like you who have
such a large stage and in a big microphone say
things like that because I think it's so it's so
(24:51):
important man, and that's awesome. I can't wait to hear
it and to get my copy. And yeah, yeah, for sure,
twelve o'clock downloaded. Um. One thing I'm dying to ask
you about is is in the early days of the
pandemic on social media, you posted something in you posted
(25:14):
a video and you you put you had like a
message of hope and encouragement to people out there, and
you actually gave out your your number. You said to
people that text you. UM, and I just thought, wow,
that's that's incredible. UM. And I'm thinking this could go
(25:36):
a lot of different ways for him. UM. What kind
of responses did you get? This is just like my
own curiosity. I don't know if you've talked about this
at all, But what kind of responses did you get?
Did any of them move you? Surprise you? And what
was the best thing that came out of it? Is
there like a great story? I think just him, you know,
(25:56):
just being there to text people back that was giving
up you know what I'm saying, people who just couldn't
see it, the uncertainty, and to talk to a lot
of people that was dealing with mental issues that you
know amplified just over time. You know, people were lonely,
people were confused, you know, yeah, lost their jobs and
(26:18):
trying to figure things out. And it happened so fast.
It's like you know, how many of how many of
us was really truly prepared for that. So it was
just one of those things like you know, to put
it out there and I would just go through Texas
and now and then and be like, yo, keep your
head up. And you know that that's not physically doing
anything anybody. But like I said again, like you never
(26:40):
know until you know, like your words could encourage, stop, save,
you know, all these things, it can actually do it,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So for me, it's
just like every platform I have, I'm just all about
that um words of encouragement, like you know, and I
(27:01):
know growing up that affected me because that's one of
my triggers, if you will, that has to do with
my traumas. It is like people are always telling me
that I couldn't do something, and and that just made me.
I use that for the jet fuel. That just made
me want to go harder and do better. And and
I know, you know everybody ain't wired like that. So
(27:22):
if I can just some type of words and encouragement
or give them a little knowledge here in there. I mean,
you know, sometimes I read quotes and be like, damn okay,
today it's gonna be a good day, you know, and
it's just something somebody put up, and it just resonated
with me, and I'm like, damn okay, I get that,
and and and then you kind of go from there.
So sometimes you know, your words are more powerful than
(27:42):
you know, and even just the gesture of um being
concerned about somebody else, because the thing about it there is,
you know a lot of people feel like they don't matter. Yea.
In the minute you give somebody that respect, you know,
you might you could possibly change their whole life, you
know what I'm saying, no question about it. You know.
I I didn't know what you were gonna say, or
(28:04):
what kind of stories or what kind of feedback you got.
But uh, when I saw that, I thought, man, he
is really you know, you're you're kind of exposing yourself
there a little bit, and you're but you at the
same time, you're probably gonna change some some woman, some guy,
some girls life. Right. Oh yeah, but I did. I
(28:25):
did get in those couple of man the bills due
next month, and you put my my account like I
was gonna ask about that too many. I got a
few of those. My cash app is, uh, this is
my Venmo account right. Yeah, I'm like, man, that's I'm
(28:50):
sure you did. Um, I'm sure, I'm sure you got
some funny ones too. Uh. We'll just probably leave that there. Uh,
that's awesome. No, I saw that. I just had to
ask you about that. I thought I thought that was
pretty great. Um, because words do matter and you know that.
Um So, speaking of words, you're in the podcast space
(29:12):
with something called the re Session or is it just
for session because when you look at the title of
it has re and then sessions. Yeah, it's kind of
a cool name. Um So what's that space like and
and and what's the what's what do you enjoy most about,
you know, having the podcast? And I just listened to
(29:33):
your most recent one with Somebody with with Somebody's brother donated.
Uh yeah, actually that was just like a freeway. Um yeah. Uh.
He's also an artist and what he experienced was kitney
failure and to get on this long donor's list to
get a kidney. Yeah, and you know, he had to
(29:56):
go through dialysis and do all these things he was
telling about how he was paying for out of his pocket.
He didn't have any insurance and he finally got a kidney,
and not too not too long after that, his teenage
son was tragically killed and he had to He ended
up donating his son's organs for somebody else's son, because
(30:19):
somebody saved somebody's son saved his life. So he donated
his son's organs to say, somebody else's life. And in
the midst of that, when we speaking, his daughter was
to the right of him, which she was about thirteen fourteen.
She was just diagnosed with cancer and I'm like, yo,
how are you dealing me with all this? And he
(30:39):
was like, I was just keeping my faith. But that's
what that podcast is about, talking to real people about
real situations, because even though I might didn't experience that
per se, there's somebody out there in the world that
thinks that their life or their world is overdone with
because of the hurt and so much like you know,
(31:04):
why me and just to hear somebody else's story make
you go wow, because you got people out here and
it makes you think about the things you complain about.
You got people out here complaining about Instagram, post and
filters and you know why it is and why that
and a man tired of the pandemic. I can't go anywhere.
It's just like, but people are going through a real
life situation. So this is just to reiterate that people
(31:29):
are out here go through real things and they come
out on top. And my first guest for him was
Tony Robbins and the inspirational Yeah, And I thought it
would be good because you know, that's always been my lane,
but to actually speak to somebody else who does it
on a different level and us to kind of go
back and forth about, you know, what we think the
(31:50):
world needs more of. And my question Naim was like,
what do you think the world needs more of? And
the first thing he said was compassion. I'm like, hmm, noted.
And I think it's good for my culture to hear
him say things like that because you kind of, you know,
you kind of connecting the dots, you know, just across
the spectrum. You're talking about things that really makes sense
(32:14):
if you just you know, sit back and look at
it and not be so emotional and tedious about it.
We hate, you know, we're hating and all these other
things are going to just go. Hey, look like you know,
we all got to be here. What I'm saying? What
do we do? You know? It's one of those things. Yeah. Yeah.
One of the things that you know, stood out too
(32:35):
about that conversation with Freeway was didn't he say there
was like four different people whose lives were saved. He
gave four of his son's organs away. Somebody got his heart,
so I got his lungs, somebody's lever. Some of us
think about that, this is the conversation you have it
and I'm like, wow, Like then you got to look
(32:57):
at the blessing in it too. Yeah, he saved somebody
else's life. So he wasn't in vain, you know, but
somebody saved his life with a kidney. Yeah, that's how
he even got um to be a part of that
organization and understand what don't even meant because you know
a lot of people like I don't want to be
(33:18):
an donor because or this. It's just like, but you
have the ability to save someone else's life. And when
people were out here like one of our guys, Scarface
and we was talked about him in this um this
particular podcast. Scar Face is um going through it right
now because he's trying to get a kidney, and this
(33:39):
is somebody we look up to as a living legend.
And it's just like wow, like you know, and and
when you hear these things. But the thing that I
took away from this conversation was that they know each
other and he was able to have a conversation with
scar Face about where he went through and he was
(34:00):
would to be there for him to help him mentally
as he's going through this process. And I think that
that's divine that one person's you know, sacrifice and and
and things that happened to you, that you can take
that pain and share it with somebody else to give
them comfort. I think that's crazy. Yeah. I listened to it,
and uh, I'll tell you what, I didn't really have
(34:24):
a strong opinion about organ donation, right, you know, before
and after I heard that, and he talked about reading
the letter right right right sounds letter rights. Yeah, it
was deep yeah, and and and just wrapping his head
around that, um, it makes me want to make sure
that I'm an organ donor now right right? And also
(34:47):
that makes you, so kudos to you in your podcast
for that. So I think it also makes you want
to take care of yourself more. And that's what I
that's what I took away from it. Health is a
real thing. Sure, I mean, like we gotta do it.
We gotta do it. Get your water and take kind
of hydrate. I got mine right here, um with me
both baby, I got the rise up cup here um
(35:11):
from the stadium. So that's awesome. I'm really that's you're
enjoying it, I take it. I mean just those just
those kind of conversations are life changing. And uh um,
that's pretty cool that you're doing that. Where can people
um find your podcast? You can find it pretty much everywhere,
um you get your podcast, it's called the Recessing Podcast.
(35:35):
Conjunction with Charlemagne the God and Black Effect Um actually
on there, we're premiering moll snippets of you know, different
songs yep from the album. And I think the song
that we played with him was a neo record I
have on the album that feating Neo that's called the
Glory because about it's about believing you know what I'm
(35:56):
saying and just knowing there's a high power and just
you know, step in the name of that and just
knowing that you ain't fighting none of this by yourself.
Somebody got you, you know. So it's a dope song.
I'm ready for this to come out now. Yeah, I
can't wait. And how often do you drop episodes for that?
Just curious? On Monday Mondays? Every Monday? Okay, every Monday yep, okay,
(36:19):
wherever your podcast is, wherever you get your podcasts yep
or the re session podcast yep, r E session got it?
Good stuff? I love that. And so, uh, there's two
things I just want to cover with you before um
we let you go. And this has been awesome. I've
(36:39):
really enjoyed talking to you. Um you got there's a
little uh, but this is going to come out on Thursday.
And on Thursday, UM, there's a little little versus battle
about to go down. You want to, um, you want
to talk a little bit about that and give us
a little tease. What's going on on their third nineteenth? Yes,
(37:01):
it's gonna be you know, the Super Bowl all over again.
You got two guys from the you know, the city
of Atlanta that you know that um that you know
have history and and for the first time ever. You know,
we're gonna be in one room and we're gonna you know,
play music and talk about it. Yes, so it should be.
(37:25):
It's gonna be interesting, you know what I mean. But
I can't wait. You know, the nineteen can't come soon enough.
You know, it's been a long time coming. And for
those who don't know, how can they watch and listen
to that? Versus TV? Because when I think on Instagram
and Apple TV as well, Apples involved as well. All right,
(37:46):
that's gonna be uh Thursday evening at eight o'clock of them. Yeah, yeah,
must must watch TV though, sir, Yes, sir, make sure
you have your snowman shirt off. Take the Falcons and
put your snow Man on. I gotta get me one.
I gotta get one. Yeah, we gotta put that one on. Um.
Speaking of Hey, before I ask you about the Falcons,
(38:06):
wrapped this up with the Falcons. What do you think
of their What do you think in the new uniforms?
I love it. I actually got a new one, um,
because somebody asked me why. I was just talking though,
but you know, I was like, maybe because of the
new jerseys, we didn't go back to the old jerseys.
But I actually like the new jersey from Mons. I
think it's though. I actually they sent me. When I
have upstairs, I'm gonna get it framed. So what numbers
(38:29):
I don't know, you know what number of their jerseys? Oh? One?
Number one seems one of one. Um, what's your favorite combination?
You like the black, You're like the grade, ain't You're
like the white? I like the black? Okay, black, I'm
black or black, you know, stronger than that black? I
like black personally. So that just that goes right up
(38:51):
my alley. You like the You still like the retros? Yes, yeah, yes,
classically they can't go wrong. Red CHROs in the p Jordans.
You win. We just need we just need some rings now.
So let's wrap this up with the Falcons. Uh, you know,
since since Raheem Morris has taken over there three and one, okay,
(39:12):
and and uh you know they got the Saints coming
up right Sunday. In fact, they played the Saints twice
in the next three weeks. Wow. And you know, you know,
being a Falcons fan with that rivalries all about it,
that's like a whole rivalry thing. Um, it's going to
be interesting though, because there's no fans in the stands,
and sometimes you need that m Because I remember the
(39:36):
last Falcons game I went to when they played New Orleans.
Little Wayne was there. He was in the sky box
and I was in the skybox and we was yelling
back and forth to each other. It was like a
real thing. It's like a real thing. Yeah, what do
you think of what's your prediction as a fan? How
do you think they're gonna wrap up with these next
(39:58):
seven games? And what is your hope? You know, because
you know they you know, they made some changes and
they're going to get a new GM and Raheem Morris
is in the running to be the head coach. He
keeps winning, he's gonna be right there. But as a fan,
I just got to ask it, what's your hope for
the rest of the season, and then what's your hope
heading into twenty twenty one with this team and where
(40:20):
this franchise is gone? Um I think, um if my
mind is like I just wanted to keep it tight,
like you know, I wanted to keep it tight and um,
you know, bring bring one home. Um these next couple
of games. It's just you know, if if that's still
record now I'm just staying focused. Don't sit the kool
age just yet, and dig in some more and um,
(40:40):
you know, let's get the city back hype again, you know,
and and just remember that spirit of people being in
those stands and what that felt like. So know that
they're playing and working towards that. So when it get
you know, when it gets back there, you know we're back,
we're back on point. But until then, you know, they
got to remember that the city's behind them, you know.
Love that for sure. And I loved this. I don't
(41:03):
know how long I had you here, but I loved
every minute of it. Was awesome, man. I appreciate you
for having me. Good dog and shout out to the
Foul because it shout out to the city. I see, y'all.
Don't forget to get that album though,
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