August 12, 2025 • 53 mins
Is Paul a kingpin? He probably won’t bowl you over with his answer. But he, Darren Urban, and Dani Sureck do have points to make about the Cardinals opening the preseason. The trio talks about Kyler’s first preseason game since 2021, that interception everyone was talking about, the point of getting a feel of live action in the preseason, Murray “enjoying” himself, the meaning of MHJ and McBride’s catches, Trey Benson with young David Johnson vibes, the joint practice in Denver, a preseason version of Wise Guy, Will Hernandez’s return, improving in short yardage, A.Q. Shipley’s radio debut and Winning Behavior from Pat Murphy, Demi and Joe.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by
Tyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the five and end
of the end zone.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
For the touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Problem solved, Harrison dies for.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The en zone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's in touchdown.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover
the team.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Touchdown, Tyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. All
that was nasty right there?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Here's Paul Calvic.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know much, but I know this much. The
NFL is a coffeecat league. Can I get some buying
off the top here? Cardinals Underground. Darren Urban who wants
to disagree at any in all moments, but you agree
with that.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Dave McGinnis once said, it's not about copying, it's doing research.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Good, good, okay, all right, prep work all right, Danny,
NFL is a copycat league. Cardinals had their coverages the
end of last year and their disguises copied by other teams.
According to multiple members of that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Secondary, I agree, it is a copycat league.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So with a'll do apologies and respect to mister Rogers.
We'd like to start this episode of Cardinals Underground by
just maybe you know, reaching into the closet putting on
big bowling event a little bit later. I just want
you guys to appreciate, you know, can't buy this in
the team shop. This is an official Cardinals kingpin right
(01:46):
there there you go, bowling shirt.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How many of those did you? Mc paul?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
About ten maybe twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We have a lot of Cardinals memorabilia that is not
sold in stores anymore. That's valuable, and so.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I thought i'd wear this, you know, just to I
feel like I earned it. You know, I'm seeing about
ten to twelve of those Kingpin challenges charity events over
the years.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So Finn, you know, are you a good bowler?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely not. They wouldn't let me bowl. They always give
me the microphone. They give me the microphone, and there's multitask.
There were some some money moments over the years I
have you know, I should tweet out later. I took
a picture I don't know why, of a bunch of cardinals.
Hey get together, let's tweet out a picture, and in
the back Carson Palmer photo bombs the picture with this
quizzical look on his face looking over. First of all,
(02:30):
not many people on this planet can actually look over
like NFL lineman. But Carson Palmer was tall enough and
he photo bombed the back of it, and it was
pretty good. But this year, if you were to get
a Kalais Campbell back out there, the man cannot get
his hand to fit into one of those you know
bowling balls that's just on the rack. He literally palm
the bowling ball and just rifle it down down the lane.
(02:52):
So anyway, I just thought i'd start with this, Danny,
are you a good bowler?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't know if i'd say I'm a good bowler.
I went through a phase of ball bwling with some
friends out here, joined the league and had a little fun.
I can't bowl right now, mostly because I have these
nails on and so they're so long that I wouldn't
be able to put my fingers in the finger holes.
I'd have to spin it and palm the bowling ball,
which is not my forte.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So does that put you on the pup list until
you know til further notice?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Is that what you're saying until the nails come off?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Or she's just never going to bowl?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I do have my own bowling ball though. That was
part of the league we joined. That was the fun
and so it's the customized finger holes which makes me
seem legit. If I walk in with my bowling bag.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think a bowling I think a big Lebowskian. I
realized at the end of camp. I was like big Lebowski.
I always had one of those cups in my hand.
I'm walking around with the beverage at all times. What's
going on? Good question? What's in my hand?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
How about a bowling our own Jim Amhundro is an
accomplished bowler according to this trophy here. His name's all
over this thing. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
What wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Give me some context on once upon a time like
the lamp when the organization was much smaller. In my
early days of working for the organization, we would we
would have organizational that we put on on our own
bowling events. Uh, and I know a couple of them. Uh.
(04:13):
There were coaches there from the coaching staff and we
all went and bowled. I wouldn't say it's the whole organization,
but there was a good a good number of us.
I think Ken Wizenhunt came out at least one time.
Those were much different times, but we would there was
like I want to say, I don't know if we
did it O seven definitely did an eight oh nine ten.
(04:33):
There was a There was years where we would Rob Brackle,
who is a one time video coordinator here. Uh, rest
in peace. Rob is no longer with us, but he
he would organize a bowling event and we would go
and a bunch of us from the organization. And Omo,
our fine producer, was an accomplished bowler and he would
often be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
For that is so fun. How did Paul get to
be the one to hang onto the trophy?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, he didn't get to hang on to it. Almost
literally just brought.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It in before because he won the trophy last. I see.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's product placement, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, that is so cute.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I'm sure it was only a humble maybe Cardinals Underground
by the way that reminds me of winning behavior, regrettably
is coming up a little bit later in this edition
of Cardinals Underground, and if we're lucky, we won't.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Get to the Jonas Brothers Demi Levado story. We won't
get to that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I feel like there's some good winning behavior.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Topics hang on a wise Guy. I'm gonna try and
avoid that as well a little bit later, so I
might call a few audible. It's not sure we're gonna
get to everything on the game plan.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Just remember the wise Guy is it's preseason only, Paul.
This is where you can make your mistakes and get
it out where you're just trying to get your reps
in for the regular season. I think I think this
is gonna be the only reps you get on wise
Guy in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Estimate my ability to work in the Jonas Brothers and
Demi Levado if.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I have to, Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Where where there's
a where there's a want, there's a way, And we
definitely know you have the desire to work that in.
There's no no ought about that, all right, So here's
my segue. Preseason game number one. Who bowled a strike?
Who bowled a gutter ball. That's what I want to know.
Where do we start top takeaways?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I mean, I don't. I don't know if anybody
really bowled a gutter ball. I mean, obviously, the one
of the top topics coming out of that game was
the loan interception that Kyler threw and what it meant
and all these things.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Seven completions out of eight and then won gutter ball.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
It was it was obviously a terrible pass. He acknowledged it.
I just I don't know. I've watched way too many
preseason games. I just I can't. I can't care that much.
I mean, obviously you don't want him throw an interception,
but just like the other seven passes, which were really good,
and that's great, but it was also, you know, a
(06:44):
preseason game where you're not game planning and neither are
they can't. I can't get over my skis. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't have a great explanation for it. I don't
think Kyler did. I don't think Jonathan Ganner really had
a great explanation for it, other than to me, it
just looked like he aimed it a little bit. And
if you ever play baseball and you try and aim it.
You end up like Chuck Knoblock or Steve Sackson, the
balls going you know, offline.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I will say, watching it again, first pitch, it was disappointing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
The throw wasn't as disappointing to me as the choice
to throw, because even without the guy dropping in the
coverage and deciding not to cover Trey McBride, who was
in the flat wide open, Marvin wasn't open. So even
if that guy wasn't there, I don't know how that
would have been completed. Even if you get more on it.
That's just me. Uh, but again I see it. I
(07:36):
just can't get all riled up about it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Can I say this?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think that is the value of starters playing actual
preseason games. I'll give you that just based on Look,
you can't replicate a the physicality, be the violence, or
see the bad intentions of a defense in practice. I mean,
at any moment you can get your head taken off
in in in a regular game, whether it's pre season
(08:00):
or not, and guess what guys played differently in that circumstance.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
As a quarterback in practice, you can assume that you
might get sacked and try and get the ball out faster,
but you're not getting touched. So to get those live
reps and kind of get the reminder of, Okay, this
is really the speed of the game. This is how
fast these defenders are getting back here, and I need
to get the ball up. That's what's important for preseason.
Kyler Murray had said to me going into the game
that however he played, whether he felt good or bad
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about his performance, he wasn't going to sit in the
emotions because if he doesn't see the field against Denver
or against Vegas, he's not seen the field again for
a month, and so either way, did not want to
sit in those emotions until Week one in New Orleans.
So I agree with Darren's perspective of don't get over
your skis on this. You're not going to be perfect
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and that's not going to excuse necessarily if it was
the wrong move, but that's how you learn. That is
the point of these preseason games.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's funny the very first pass Will Johnson was targeted
on was a pass interference, and I don't see a
bunch of people saying, well, Will Johnson stinks. He like
we talk about how great he was, and then he
made this pack. And again, I understand Kyler's been in
the league longer, et cetera, et cetera. It just come on,
I'll be honest. My biggest takeaway from Kyler this game
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wasn't even during the game, and I had some other
people talking about what he was wearing in the second
half compared to Mahome still being in his uniform and
I want to stick a fork in my eye. Whatever,
But my biggest takeaway with Kyler was how he responded
after the game. Because here this is a guy who
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when he came into the league, his he did play
three preseason games as a rookie. He made it very
clear before the first one that he couldn't wrap his
head around the idea that you would play football games
that didn't count. And he didn't understand it, and he
didn't really like it. He didn't want he doesn't want
to play in the preseason generally. He's only played in
one other games since that rookie season. It was twenty
(09:59):
twenty one. He was terrible against the Chiefs, I mean
really bad, and they started seven to zero that year.
So whatever, and then, but what I took away was
he comes into the locker room or the press conference,
and he said a couple of times how much Funny had,
how much he really enjoyed himself. And I've been around
him enough that was genuine. Now, whether he's grown into that,
(10:24):
whether he realized what Danny was saying was like, hey,
and what you were saying, Paul, like, I got to
get some of that there, so I can, as he noted,
like you you just don't. You don't feel that in
practice when you know that the guys are coming after
to kill me. But that made a difference to me
that going back to what he said to Danny in
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or sit down before the game, that he was going
to take what he could out of it, and that
tells me he took what he could out of it.
Do I think he's gonna play against the Broncos or
the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's going to.
So I'm glad he took something out of that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
By the way, he Let's not forget last year he
took the hardest hit I think I've seen in ten
years on the sideline when he got blasted by the
Jets edge and I remember literally just just shouting out,
you know, luckily the mic was down and it was off,
just like shouting out, OMG. I mean it was like, okay,
get a stretcher. I mean, that's how bad that looked.
(11:24):
We all remember that. And he popped right up and
he was miked up, and then you know, the officials
came over, Hey, you good, you're good, look at me.
You know, they wanted eye contact. He's like, no, I'm good.
He shook it off and stayed in the game, like
you sure.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
On that drive.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, he fumbled on that play and didn't lose it.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's right, that's right. Look to me on that. And
I said this on the TV show with Jonathan Gannon.
To me, the biggest thing Trey McBride's regular season ready,
that chemistry exists, but the what was it twenty one
yard grabbed by Marvin Rrison Junior at fifteen? It was
twenty one by Trey, fifteen by Marvin Arrison Jr. To me,
(12:04):
that chemistry and to layer that between levels of the
defense for Marv to make a catch with his hands
away from his body, get down smartly, especially in the preseason,
the fact that was there and they connected. If they
can get half the chemistry between Marvin and Kyler. That
exists between Trey and Kyler. To me, that's where this
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offense elevates.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You saw a few a few little sparkle sparkles on
the offense. That catch by Harrison was across the middle.
It was good extension, good good chemistry there. Murray was
leading his receiver for that pass. You saw pre snap
motion and you saw Kyler Murray use his legs, not
in a crazy way. It was one of those off
(12:46):
script plays we heard Murray and offensive coordinator Drew Petsing
both talk about this offseason being a focal point that
they were going to work on in practice. Murray hanging
out of the ball, going through his reads, nothing was open,
ran through the pocket and used his legs for a
couple of yards. So those are good signs of things
we have talked about this offseason, and you're starting to
see little pieces of the offense from the however many
(13:10):
snaps it was the first quarter of play in the
preseason from the ones.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The fact he was willing to run a couple of
times in a preseason game shocked me, and I wouldn't
have blamed him if he didn't, but that tells me
he was into it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So Marvin was in motion on the fifteen yard grab.
And the reason I asked that is because Craig Grieolou,
all right, and you can't spell Grieolou without the AI.
He had some stat like last month where the analytics
said Marvin Erson Junior was in motion last year a
total of seven times, which is hard to believe now
(13:47):
being the outside X receiver. Okay, I guess so. But
to Trey McBride's comment during mandatory mini camp where there's
more sauce out there, I am curious how differently the
manner in which the Cardinals use Marvin Harrison Junior, what
that looks like once you get to New Orleans in
week one. I know, in the open practices, open to
the fans on display for everyone to see, you have
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seen a lot more of the cheat motions by Cardinals
receivers where you can move laterally as long as no
one else is moving one person in motion at a time.
And in fact I asked the was a Cleete blakeman
about that when he had the little media session, just
to redefine that for us, because I think we're going
to see more of that this year now. What we
also saw was James Connor looks regular season ready, you
(14:32):
can put him in that category. Trey Benson and Aq
Shipley made this comp on the air. He compared Trey
Benson and the jump cuts to a young David Johnson,
and I'm like, you know what, that is a money comparison,
as Trey Benson is chump cutting from the A to
the B gap then finding room at the second level.
And that was pretty encouraging and exciting to see.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I do like how Trey Benson looks. He only had
twenty nine yards on nine carries, I think, but I
think a good chunk of that was second unit offensive
line issues.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Which there are a lot of questions how that's going
to shake out on the final fifty three.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think it's very obvious why they wanted to make
sure they brought back Will Hernandez. I'm sure we'll get
to that at some point. So I mean that that
was I like how Trey Benson looked. I loved how
James Conna looked. Hell, I liked how Amari de Mercado looked.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's right, I mean, mister gamer himself, Mario.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Deemer, it's your first snap, why don't you take it
for a forty yard touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, that leads us to pretty much the only other
offensive player we haven't touched on, Jacoby Brissett. Yeah, as
your backup quarterback, and it was with the second team
offense going up against second team defense. So take that
for what you will. He was composed, he was not
rattled in the pocket. He was making some good throws.
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It's it's a different feeling when you when you're going
into the regular season and you've feel fully confident in
a backup quarterback. I don't mean that as a knock
to Clayton or any of the other previous quarterbacks. Jacoby
Brissette has extensive experience as a starter in this league,
so physically, mentally knows what it takes. That is a
different feeling mentally going into the season feeling like you
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don't have a significant drop off. Different skill sets than
Murray for Burssett, but in terms of leading an offense,
that's a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean Clayton as one career start, we all remember
it at Cleveland a couple of years ago. Jacoby Brissett
is fifty three, it's mid fifties, and he's played in
eighty plus games.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, totally different, and his career has been very good
with the football regarding turnovers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think of last year he was the starting quarterback
for New England. Obviously Drake May was a franchise QB
in waiting TikTok and he played behind probably the worst
offensive line in the league in New England to start
last year, and then after five games, here comes the rookie.
But there was a game Week eight or nine where
he came in in relief and let a comeback and
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they were like two scores down and he brought him
back and beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
His first series was three and out and his first
two passes he absolutely got waylaid, I mean hit hard. Yeah,
I wasn't sure if he was getting up from the
second one. Probably not ideal and certainly scary if you
had to hat your starter in there, But he got up.
He end up throwing a couple of touchdown passes. He
led that drive right before halftime. I'm like, I you know,
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I mean, he's gonna have if Kyler's not playing, Jacoby
Brissett's gonna have to play. But I wouldn't be completely
surprised if Clayton Tune played the vast majority of the
snaps the last two games.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean, as you're saying that, I'm processing it in
my head. I'm like, are we about to get eight
quarters of Clayton tune?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
You might?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You might. I mean, honestly, that two minute drill was enough. Okay, Jacoby,
we said you're good.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
When we're talking about starters, I will be curious, especially
in Denver special teams starters a special team did not
look good. That did not look like what we are
used to seeing under a special teams coordinator Jeff Rogers.
So I'll be curious if Greg Dortsch and DJ Dallas
as your returner see some time in Denver just to
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kind of, I don't want to say, redeem themselves in
the sense of trying to keep their spot on this roster,
just mentally like clean things up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Jonathan Gannon said before we recorded this that his plan
for the Denver game was probably going to not be
determined until Thursday night, and I'm sure that is in
large part because he wants to see what the joint
practices look like. The one thing you have going for
you going against the Broncos they have an excellent defense,
you will get to see your starters against this excellent
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defense and kind of see again in a practice situation,
not a game situation, but it might give you enough
where you're like, okay, we've all checked all these boxes
of what they look like against this kind of competition.
We don't need to put them out in a game.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
For special teams.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Though.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
To have two fumbles, one of which the Cardinals recovered,
and then Dallas had a monked punt, like, that's just
things you don't normally see what the Cardinals, specially especially
those guys, I mean doing it for a long time.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Those guys are good.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I tell you to me. And as the game was
going on, and I mentioned this with a Q Shipley,
I think it opens up the window a little further
for Xavier Weaver as a return man and Zay Weaver
I think he quited himself pretty well in the game,
had the touchdown catch. He was a problem, you know,
he was. He definitely you know, made some noise out there.
(19:36):
But and Jonathan Gannon and Jeff Rogers have been pretty
clear about this. If you're the fourth or fifth receiver,
you're not getting a lot of targets, you're not getting
a lot of routes run so you better be a
force on special teams. Well, Xavier Weaver, really his only
role on special teams is going to be in the
return game. So when Greg Dorch is putting one on
the turf and he had DJ Dallas a couple of times,
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I mean, I think there's an opportunity for Zay Weaver
if he can shine in the return game. And these
last two, you know, it's he's still on the outside
looking in and trying to unsee DJ Dallas or Greg Dorsch.
But dot dot dot, you know, maybe after they saw that.
You know, I'm guessing his contract is a lot less
than a DJ Dallas if you want to get down
to the business side of things as well.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The thing about DJ Dallas though, is he he can
play all the teams. He's not just a return man.
He's he's really good in coverage. I I just find
it hard to believe DJ Dallas won't be around for
those reasons.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I see the competition with Weaver more so Simi Fajoco,
both in that receiver room. Of their roles on special teams.
Fojogo has played special teams a lot in his career.
That's where I see more of the competition for Weaver
on special teams is in that receiver's room. Does what
Weaver is what Weaver can do on special teams greater
than what Fojoco can bring them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's totally different, you know, body type. Obviously, it's more
than Zach Pascal six', three big dude can run down.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well and also to, note he didn't play in the
game because he was, hurt so we didn't get to
see him do what he.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Does by the, way if you're looking for one player
to follow during a joint, practice MAY i SUGGEST Dj.
Dallas based on last year In. Indianapolis the guy was
like the, agitator the. Instigator everywhere he, went things got
a little, feisty little you, know, hey get off, me
a little rooting Into, tutin and a couple of times
it was almost the womping and a. Stomping THERE'S Dj.
DALLAS i, mean he's So i'm. Curious i'm going to
(21:28):
keep in half an eye on number twenty when they
go against The. Broncos i'm also curious see what sort
of mood The broncos are in because they had a
joint practice last week against the forty nine. Ers, yes
they're a little banged up after that joint practice and
the preseason. Game they're definitely more injured than The. Cardinals
SO i do wonder what things might look. Like you,
know what Is Sean.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Payton, well it's, FUNNY i. ASKED i Asked Jonathan gannon
about how the choice was made about doing one joint
practice instead of, two and he just He all he
said was we just decided what was best for both. Teams,
now this has been playing for only one since jump
like nothing has. Changed it was always only going to be.
(22:10):
One BUT i think to, myself if it's, this it's
the second week of the, preseason you're deep in training.
Camp if you only have, one you cover yourself in
that regard like we're gonna do. One BUT i, mean
it reminds me and you you guys remember this when
the Team cardinals With Cliff kingsbury went down To tennessee
and was supposed to have two against The titans and
only did one and it was essentially because. Injuries.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yep The denver defense is legit led the league last
year sixty three. Sacks Nick benito is an up and
coming pass rushing star and a. Stud they have several
other Guys Jonathan, cooper who they paid as. Well it's
one of the Reasons Baron browning was available for a.
Trade they're so loaded off the. Edge Zach allen one
of my favorite all time dudes And. Cardinals guess, What,
(22:51):
Zach you're dead to me this, week especially after you
made second Team All. Pro that's something we don't.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
NEED i can't believe you would say that About Zach,
allen who is.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
One of the nice, dudes nicest.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
People don't tell THEM i said. That let's get in
fact speaking to The. Broncos i'm told this might be
a good segue. Moment look At danny light. Up look
At danny light. Up, yes it is. BACK i can't believe.
IT i try to Go paully. Protest it is time
for Wise.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Guy it's time for the Wise. Guy the world's fastest
Growing cardinals quiz. Show the stakes are, low the winner
gets absolutely. Nothing here's your hostess with the. Mostess danny's
a right.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
MAN i have missed that, intro you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Know with a bowling. SHIRT i just feel more ready to.
GO i feel regular season ready.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Rocketed that's why you only need so many reps with.
Us but, again this is. Preseason wise, guy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Let's set the scene for those who might be new to.
Listening this is wise, Guys so we'll have this every
week throughout the. Season darren is our reigning. Champ he
wiped the floor With paul last.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Year so the fact this is pre and the results don't,
count that's really a bonus for.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Me similar similar to the players on the, field this doesn't.
Count this still. Matters this is getting you warmed. Up
so how.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Almost all those times When danny's been asking questions in
the office and he's not afraid of getting, hit you,
know this is this this whole.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Testimony there are four, questions and we do have tie
breakers if we have to go, there Since darren, One
NORMALLY i would allow the previous winner to choose whether
or not they go. First but Somebody i'm not gonna
name names did tell ME i need to do a
better job of setting you up for. Success, well SO
i am going really to allow you to pick first
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question one through, Four and wise, guys it's always it's
always catered towards the opponent or the city that The
cardinals are playing that, Week so that that's your. Hint
pick the number one through.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Four paul setting me up for success as a euphemism
for pity or feeling sorry for. Me, obviously the number is.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Three since nineteen ninety, three The uncles have used Several
arabian horses as their live. Mascot you'll see the horse
gallop across the field after every touchdown and field. Goal
what's the horse's stage?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Name stage? Name because apparently apparently he's got a regular.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Name now your question pipe?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Down where's where's?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh my? Goodness, Okay Xavan collins tell me. Out you're
the guy with a cowboy hat around, Here? Zavon where
are you WHEN i need? You the name of the
horse In? Denver?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Zesty that's WHAT i, say, anything and that's what comes to.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
MIND i will, Say i've been down there's that little
stall right by the field down. There i've been down
there many. TIMES i have no clue what this would.
Be i'm gonna go with stampede.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Challenger, challenger something like. That there's an ear on.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
It, No darren did not steal it is an E r.
Thunder that's, whatever, Right, darren your.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Turn i'll go with number, One danny.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
One The broncos home stadium opened in two thousand and
one As Broncos. Stadium today it's Called Empower field At Mile.
High can you name the two other companies that have
held naming rights to the stadium, hint think investments and
out of business.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Retail well one Was investco and the other one is
a sporting good. Store And i'm drawing a. Blank yes that's, Right, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
YEAH i don't.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Remember, well you have the opportunity to steal hmm, okay
it Wasn't Dick's sporting good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Steal, no it Wasn't big five. Stadium, no let's see think.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Of something out of business Probably.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, okay that's a that's a good. One oh, Boy
i'll go with, bike helmet place out of business close
sports authorady field.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Sports a turn off the.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Light it's not even.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Funny, okay ball two or?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
FOUR i mean although it was going hard on this,
time ALREADY i need a lifeline into a hand or
hand in. Sales uh what two or? Four, okay let's
let's go to this is a.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
PRESEASON I i feel good about this one for. You Kalaias,
campbell who was From, genver used to do a baseball
swing to celebrate his. Sax it was a tribute to
a legendary defense Eve, end who spent most of his
career with The chiefs but also won Two Super bowls
over three seasons while playing for The. Broncos who is?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
IT i know this, one, MAN i should know this.
One only four years Hosting The Big Red rage With Kalaias,
CAMPBELL i should know this. One and uh, yeah definitely
wasn't no? Idea go? Ahead Neil?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Smith Neil, smith six time, selection two Times Super bowl.
Champ Darren, yes steal And darren's on the. Board, okay
so If darren gets us, right he. Wins but if
he gets the, wrong you the opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Steal Paul soo, said as long as we're not talking
about The jonas brothers And Demie, Levado i'll take the.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Ol wait here we. Go in the nineteen ninety four
Comedy dumb And, Dumber lloyd And harry set off on
a road trip to return a briefcase belonging To, mary
in Which colorado ski.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
TOWN i know that.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
One, COME i have never seen? It.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Darn darren wins to. Nothing do you guys want to
do the tiebreaker for? Fund since we don't play The
broncos in the regular, season just to.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Really more than fitting. THAT i think the only ANSWER
i knew was the answer to dumb and.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Dumber, okay here we go your here's your. Tiebreaker Quarterback
Jake blummer through ninety touchdowns in six seasons with The.
Cardinals how many touchdowns did he throw in the four
seasons with The. Broncos so you write down your number
and then you'll show me and who whoever you can
borrow my.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
POCKET i got a P i got a.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Pin how many touchdowns Did Jake plummer throw in his
four seasons with The. Broncos darren has showed me his. Answer, So,
paul when you're, ready you can say your.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Number seventy. ONE i, said seventy. One no, way, really,
yeah good, night everybody drives. Safely i'm out of, here.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The wind To. Darren but, again these don't count in
the regular.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Season you know What i'm now regular season, READY i
GET i get the rest of the preseason. Off i'll
see you In New.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Orleans If darren had taken you up on the offer
that you offered up every week Of Winner Take, all
you would have actually taken, off which he wouldn't Have, Okay,
Wow i'm so Happy wise guys.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Back, okay, Great now it goes to the bench until
the regular.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Season speaking of being back in another, Loss Will hernandez,
signed walked into camp and, automatically right then and, there
my mustache was second in the power poll by a country,
Mind Will hernandez and Then Gardner. MINSHEW i saw during
the preseason game his mustache was a that was the
next level right, there So Will, hernandez.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
WHICH i think WE i think we were able to
talk about that last week on the. SHOW i can't
remember if it was it was after, okay BUT i
MEAN i think ONE i think this was good when
when he spoke to, us LIKE i like the, idea
like he was, asked you, know did you were you're
always thinking you're going to come, back and he basically,
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said you don't want to walk away with some walk
away from something like this that we've. Built AND i
love that. Answer you can tell why he wanted to be.
Here and the other thing that was interesting to me,
was you, Know Jonathan gannon after he, signed made it
clear That Isaiah adams And Evan brown were the, starters
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but he didn't say for. Forever And Will ernandez didn't
say that. Either Will hernandez was very careful not to
diminish Anything Isaiah adams and Or Evan brown have, done
but he basically, SAID i feel like WHETHER i play
or not is up to, me and that's. FAIR i,
mean if he comes in and he starts looking really
good at practice and they feel like they can upgrade
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by putting him in the, lineup they're GONNA.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I appreciate that answer From, hernandez and you're not going
to get anything different than gannon Of no, Right so
that answer makes, sense and it makes sense with the
play you've seen From brown In, Adams hernandez was immediately
put on the pup. List he's still rehabbing his knee.
Injury he tore HIS Acl week five In San francisco last.
Year he's going to have to get back in to football.
Shape that that's part of it is when you're, rehabbing
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you're not able to be. Practicing so it's going to
take some time before there ever might be true competition
For adams Or, brown and so at that point they
might be so good and so subtle That hernandez could
be a depth. Move and even if that's the, CASE
i like this. Signing hernandez played in all thirty five,
games started all thirty five games he played in as
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a cardinal the previous three. Seasons he has been. Durable
he plays clean. Football he is mean and nasty on the.
Field If Kyler murray gets a nasty sack and that
defenders up in his, Face Will hernandez is the first
one always pulling that defender out of his quarterback's. Way
even if it's, DEPTH i don't think it's necessarily just
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the right guard. POSITION i think this could be a
move broader. Picture if for some, reason you have an
injury to your starting center Yelled, defroholt and right for
the backup Is John. Gaines is something funky ever, happens
and you need to Move Evan brown from left guard to,
center who has significant reps in THE nfl at the center.
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Position Will hernandez has also played on the left side
of the. LINE i don't see this signing as just
depth for that right guard, position Where hernandez has mostly
played In. ARIZONA i see this as more of that
swing guard position depth by bringing him back for a.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Year, yeah it was. Interesting he was very respectful Of Isaiah,
Adams Evan. Brown he was also very confident in his,
abilities said the Film Don't lie at one, point and
he was playing some of the best ball of his
career when he went Down week six last. Year there's
no DOUBT i think he was The cardinals' best offensive
lineman based on just caliber of play the first five
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games of last. Year and there was one other disappointing
moment in the preseason opener when it was third and
one and The cardinals had to sell her for a field.
Goal and if you go back To week seventeen at The,
rams late first, Quarter cardinals got into the red, zone
they were. Driving it was a fourth and one and
they decided to go for it And James connor got.
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Stuffed there's one area where this run game can. Improve
it's on third and, short fourth and. Short you know
those gotta have it run moments where you need to
have a dude on the offensive line you're gonna run.
Behind is A Paris johnson. Junior this, year for, example
he went on the road and he went against arguably
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the best guard in the, Game Rob hunt for The Carolina,
panthers who got paid over twenty million a year as
a free, agent and what Did Chuba hubbard? Do you
know two out of every three run plays ran right
behind his big right. Guard you know what Did Bryce
young do right behind the big right? Guard Trey smith
just got. Paid he's now the highest paid guard in the.
League that's the kind of guy he is For Kansas.
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City so if Will hernandez can get back into the
same form he was a year ago at some point this,
season to, me that's gonna be critical For, November, December january.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Football right with, You i'm with, You and, again if You're,
ganning you don't have to make those decisions or even
talk about them Because Will hernandez isn't even practicing. Now
once he starts, practicing and if he's, active then then
there's gonna be questions and there's gonna be legit. Questions
but right, now why Would gannon talk about anything but
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those other two guys being? Starters because right, Now Will
hernandez couldn't even play if he wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
To, OKAY o line legit question or. Not Jonah, williams to,
me one of the most encouraging things coming out of
the preseason opener was seventy three is it right? Tackle
to my recollection he did not take a snap in
the open practices we were allowed to. Watch he did
not take a snap AN o LINE d. Line he
did not take a, single.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
He didn't one on one on, ones he did not
take A but he was in all the eleven all
the eleven on. Eleven, true But i'm in.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
TERMS i, mean those THOSE o LINE d line drills
are by far the most physical aspect of, camp AND
i didn't, see but then in the game he was.
Playing SO i wasn't so sure going into The Kansas
city preseason opener That Jena williams would be just based
on what we had seen or not seen at. Practice
so to, me that's really good if you know now
whether he's done for the, preseason and you, know he's
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obviously experienced, enough and he was another guy last YEAR
i thought when the game, started you, know he was a.
Gamer he was sort of The amari De mercado of
the offensive. Line he looked a lot better in the
regular season than perhaps he did in. Camp so, okay
now all of a, sudden you can see this offensive
line round in the form because As darren you know,
this you can have all the weapons you want on
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offense if you don't have the offensive, line you're going.
Nowhere you're stuck in the. MUDs so to, me you
start from the inside. Out so there's. That that's. Good
any other names you want to throw out, There, DANNY
i Know Jordan.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Birch Jordan birch looked. Good he had a lot of,
pressures he was getting his hand on the, quarterback and
if some of those were negated by. Penalties he looked
fast and. Strong so DID.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Lj.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Collier Dante stills came out. Hot So i'm very intrigued
by the front seven of what you can get from
your defensive line and your outside. Linebackers And burch is
a new, face he's a. Rookie to, See stills And,
collier who have been here for a few years at this,
point seem like they are really going to have good
seasons based on what we've seen in camp in the
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first preseason, game WHICH i know it's, okay of course
everyone's gonna look, good but they have they have won
a lot of. Battles So i'm very intrigued at the
growth we could see from those. Two in particular two
interceptions Cornerback Darren, hall rookie Safety key And crawford looked,
good And gannon told Us paul on THE tv show
that those were not interceptions that hit him in the.
(37:06):
Chest they had a good read on the, offense a
good hands to bring the ball. In so those were
two impressive takeaways by the, defense no.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Doubt you know you're talking About Dante stills AN. Lj,
Coller you're talking about the fifth and sixth offensive lineman
or defensive linemen on this. TEAM i, mean think about, It,
Kalais Dalvin thomas And Darius. Robinson i'm gonna Throw Walter
nole in the third in. THERE i, mean think of
how different that is than a year. Ago those were
your two best defensive linemen for most of last year
because of. Injury, yeah and now they're, fifth, sixth seventh
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on this depth.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Chart With Justin. Jones, YEAH i, mean, yeah a lot of.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Depth So i'd like to know How Elijah simmons graded.
Out maybe we'll get some more information that he, did
get some reps and know. A. Q shipley also shouted
Out Xavier, thomas you know on the.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Interception, BYE i Thought Xavier thomas played well Those The darren.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Holl interception in, particular does not happen without pressure From,
thomas which is.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
INTERESTING i feel Like Xavier thomas hasn't been really somebody
that's caught your eye in. Camp, true but if he's
doing in the, game.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
And is there one roster spot between him And Jordan
birch at this.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Point If I'm Xavier, THOMAS i hope not Because Jordan
burch is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
On he's gonna be on the. Team BUT i mean
it looks like he's playing with that sort of Mindset
Xavier thomas's. Been he's been pretty locked.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
In you give shout. Outs we do need to give
a shout out to someone. Else you just Mentioned Aq
shipley's first time on the call with you on. Radio
you both did a great.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Job, NO i appreciate that our heroes. There the fact
he's not nervous at. All it's just he wasn't nervous
in the press, conference wasn't nervous in the. Booth you,
know maybe it's the McAfee effect where it's a total
chaos of being on that show for so many. Years he's, like, oh,
yeah this game stuff is, nothing you, know but he
was a complete.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
NATURAL i love having the perspective of a Former cardinal
a center and, like no one's going to Replace Ron
Wolf Lee wolf played a dirty. Position right, center also
a dirty. Position SO i think in some sense it's
a similar perspective staying in that broadcast, booth WHICH i
think is a good.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Thing somebody tweeted as a response to one of the
plays that was Jim. O mahunter tweeted out one of
the plays with the radio, call and somebody, REPLIED i
think The cardinals have a type.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's, good that's. Funny, well what Was wolf's old? Saying
you never want to be at the bottom of that.
Pile Aq shipley was at the bottom of that pile
most of his, career so you, know and his stories are.
Epic wait some of the stories that he, has wait
till they come out on the. Air people are really
going to enjoy A. Q. SHIPLEY i firmly believe that tremendously.
Popular by the way down on the, field we went
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down the field before, kickoff fans are shouting them, out
players are coming, over assistant. Coaches it's like seven degrees
of separation with A Q. Shipley he knew, everyone.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
You, KNOW i will, say and everybody Loves. Wolf but,
again when you when you've been in the booth for twenty,
years a few years after you had already retired in
the first, place you get further and further away from
the game and your your connections are. Fewer A Q
shipley just retired a few years ago and then he
was coaching and obviously the McAfee. Thing he still has
a lot of touch points within the, league by.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The, way in terms of position. Battles and we talked
a lot on the broadcast about that inside linebacker spot
next To Mac Wilson, senior which isn't going to be
a constant on the. Field you, know it's not gonna
be a three down. Position we get, It but do
you think it's still a Keen davis gaither his? Job they'll.
Lose how close is? Own? Papal we did ask the
coach this week on HIS tv, show and what was the? Word?
(40:35):
Tight so really? Tight that's what are you, Saying.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I'll be, HONEST i, thought and And gannon kind of
alluded to this a little bit uh in his press conference.
Tuesday papal has had a pretty good. CAMP i didn't
think he had the best, game AND i don't Think
gannon saw a great game from him. Either now it's
one preseason, game AND i DON'T i couldn't really tell
you How Davis gaither really would have. Been but like.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
You, know the fact That Patrick mahomes only played forty
eight seconds in the game because of the, TURNOFFS i
couldn't even get in speaking of the radio, broadcast are
these great stats On Patrick. Mahomes i'm going to throw
one out here because they didn't get a chance to
throw it on the. Air do you realize that in
his last seventeen one possession, Games Patrick mahomes is seventeen and,
oh that is a mic drop. Stats, well they.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Were eleven and oh last year in one possession. GAMES i,
mean everybody wondered how they were doing it last year
because on a week to week, basis they were finding.
Away and that's part of the reason why not everybody
was completely surprised with how The Super bowl turned, out
because if it goods, sideways it could get. Sideways and
The chiefs aren't what they were three four years ago
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in Terms now maybe that's gonna, change we'll, see but
that's why it helps to have one of the best quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Ever, well they rebuilt their offensive line that The cardinals
went after their defensive. Line you know you knew that
by halftime in The Super bowl they needed to do.
That all, right winning behavior in three two? One can
you display winning?
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Behavior you have to consistently display winning.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Behavior that's winning.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Behavior you've got to define what winning behavior is and
hold people to that.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Standard, yes that's my. Bad by the, way the booth
thought we were going on three and the snap COUNT
i went with. One so that's my. Bad that's.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Okay it's pre, Season. Paul it is pre work on that.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Cadence let's start right off the top here with FORMER asu.
Manager that's HOW i Know Pat murphy is now The brewers.
Manager AND i did see a little bit of, this
so wait a. Minute he's Doing And danny would appreciate
this handling all THE tv interviews in the. Preseason So,
danny what if you're interviewing a coach on the sideline
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and then all of a sudden they reached into the
pocket in their shirt and they took out what a.
Pancake here's the.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Thing he didn't take it out of his shirt. Pocket oh,
no it was out of his pocket in the. Rear
there's no WAY i saw the, video he had a
regular un like it. Was it was not in a,
Package it was not in.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
A just a braw raw, pancake well not.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
RAW i was, cooked but it was just by, itself
and he had it in the pants pocket of a baseball.
Uniform now has he sat down in the dugout at that?
POINT i don't.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Know, yeah the reporter took a. Bite but if it's
coming out of the back.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Pocket AND i took it out of his back, pocket
the reporter took a, BITE i, mean did the reporter
get a tennis?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Shot there's two there's two parts to. This having snacks
on hand easily on hand that is winning. Behavior having
snacks on hand that aren't in a protective thing in
a baseball uniform not winning.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Behavior there's just one. Response if somebody offers you a
bite of a pancake they took out of their back,
POCKET i just ate.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
PANCAKE i, mean is he? Sweaty what's going?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
ON i think these are concerns that are.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Fair so that's Good.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
DAN i think IF i ever bring snacks on game,
DAY i think they're already wrapped package and they're in
my fanny.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Pack so you know you need like A nike commercial
With Mark sanchez the butt fumble and Then Pat murphy
with the butt pan. Pancake oh my, goodness, OKAY i
think we need we.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Should we should trademark.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That oh, boy all, RIGHT i always like anything that
has to do with outer. Space of, course meteorite punched
a hole in A georgia homeowner's. Roof everyone's okay?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Here.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes they then determined that the cherry tomato sized meteorite
that went through the man's roof like a bullet and
left a dent in the floor this home Outside atlanta
is actually older than The earth. ITSELF i love that.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Idea WHAT i, mean older than The. Earth So i'm
curious how long has that thing been traveling through?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Space so for them to get that, information who did
he call for them to start looking into all of? That,
right that's my.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Quest, yeah that's a good.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
One who do you? CALL i, mean the roofing company
isn't gonna lead you to any sort of. Researchers so,
Yeah university Of.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Georgia there's a geologist planetary geologist at A university Of.
Georgia so it will probably be hired by The eagles
at some point because he's from The university Of, georgia.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And SO i hope he hasn't had any speeding. Ticket
he takes the.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Bus SO i guess the old saying you're oldest. Dirt
apparently this meteorite was older than.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Dirt winning behavior for this meteorite for lasting longer than
The earth.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Once, again and this is why you guys need to come.
Around so my way of looking at. Things of, course
there are. UFOs there's way more we don't know than we, do.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
DON'T i Think i'm necessarily against that. Thought i'm just
not as passionate about.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
It as you OR i did see this IN nfl
Network Seahawks Marshawn lynch pulling A Randy johnson and and
he's a Photographer.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Seattle once upon a time you has to become a.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Phiographer and so there he, is except he was defending his,
position so you're supposed to give way as a photographer
of the. Sideline so the.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Video is this The seahawks running back was coming out
of bounds Towards Marshawn. Lynch and, yeah if you're on the,
sideline and you two know exactly what this all is,
about because you're on the. Sideline you're trying to get
out of the. Way, hey if this guy's coming full,
speed you're just. Moving Marshawn lynch just put out a.
Forearm he basically, said get off.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Me ground its.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Equipment it's the best forearm shugar we've seen in any
camp all, year just like, this just but it's, like you, know,
boom just get off me with The. Yeah SO i
think that's a. Violation if you, actually you, know defend
your position and actually physically strike a, player don't you
get your your press cred pulled from the. Sideline i'm
pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Something tells Me Marshawn lynch is not getting his press
credential pulled In.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Seattle send the intern down to Pull Marshawn lynch's press
Cred see how that.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Goes you can't even find him because he's just, There
so it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Happen and the good news, Is, danny we don't have
time to really talk About danie labat.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You we always have, Times. PAUL i will really do
my best to make this an abridged. Version i've already
Given darren the rundown pack of.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Lunch, darren this IS i got it all yesterday in
the half.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Hour verre is there is legitimate cultural significance for The
Jonas brothers bringing Out Demi levado on stage to start
their new tour and their hometime this week.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
After Taylor swift is going on The Kelsey podcast and
dropping new album Album. TAYLOR i know you're, not but
like you're talking about a cultural touch point when it's
already been.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Usurped Taylor swift has twelve. ALBUMS i, mean.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Come, On, caitlin what are you talking?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
About, okay let me just set the stage really, Fast
paul about the significance with The Joe. Bros And Demi.
Levado it is the summer of two thousand and. Seven
Camp rock has just come out and has Changed Disney
channel fans. Forever jonas brothers are in their. Peak, okay
they are about to. Set they are about to start
their first major tour and well in.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
The next the world's off ass of.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
This Demi levado gets her big. Break she was she
was a kid actor On barney but gets her big
break on Camp. Rock and the other main character of this,
movie which was a good, movie good, music it Was
Demi levado And Joe, Jonas so he's not just a
cameo as A jonahs. Brothers he is the main. Actor
they are love interests in the movie and actually become
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love interests in real. Life they're two. Teenagers that's what
happens in The Disney channel. Realm everybody knows. Everybody so they're.
Dating they break, up and, unfortunately this is a time
that starts a tumultuous decade For Demi levado because she
starts dealing with mental health, issues drug, addictions going through
relapses while she's on. Tour all that while she's Dating Joe,
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jonas the younger Brother, nick not the, youngest but the
youngest in the. Band they are best, friends and As
demi is going through a tough, Time joe is not
really there for. Her their friendship. Falters they have no.
Communication nick does not Invite demi to his. Widding so
decade has no no, No so we're talking more than a.
Decade and for The Jonas brothers to open up their
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tour and their hometown stop At amo Of New, jersey
to everybody's, surprise they bring Out Demi. Lovado it was just.
Incredible they sang camp rock songs. Together it showed that
they had reconciled their relationships that everybody. Loved it's hard
BECAUSE i don't know what no, OFFENSE i don't know
what to equate this to from a show or a
movie or a band that you guys grew up. Watching
to have these love interests come back not as love,
(49:30):
interest they're all. Married it was just. Incredible the icing
on top was they also brought Out jesse, McCartney who
was the heart throb of all heart throbs during this.
Time do not take this as a sign to reconcile
with your toxic. Exo let's make that very.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Clear i'm going to say. This danny has brought up
many things on getting cultured and various things like, this
and we all enjoy being informed as we. Are this
is by far not that she's not genuine about the other.
Stuff you can tell reaches deep in the.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Day on two thousand and, SEVEN i was at That
Jonas brothers. Concert we my friends AND i and my
sister and her. Friends we had gone To, target gotten
the plain white v neck teas AND ti died them
for this.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
CONCERT i had never heard of camp, rock and this
is the First i'd heard Of Demi levado being On,
Barney SO i did learn something, today even.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Though it's not getting. Culture that is winning behavior for
The jonas brothers And Demi levado to reconcile bring her
out on. Stage she sounded, fantastic gave all The jonas brothers.
Hugs it Was it was really a moment.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Online my only offering there is do you still have
the tied eye? Shirt do you still have the tide
is in a box?
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Somewhere and my parents at some POINT i did learn That,
caitlin our team. Photographer we didn't know each. Other she
was also at the. Concert how about?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That, no, no.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Boy, Okay so that.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
That was really important for. Me that was huge winning.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Behavior i'll go find my authentic tied eye shirt From.
BERKELEY i got to bring that in one. Day that'll
be in the next, uh you know, wardrobe you know
prop to to bring.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
In denver is a place you can wear TIED, i isn't?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
It oh? Yeah oh. YEAH i was just In colorado last,
month and the old joke About colorado is. True where
the mountain bike on top of the, car the mountain
bike is worth three times as much as the. Car
that's Very. Colorado that's that's what you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Say DID i hear correctly that you guys are going
to actually film bird watch THE tv show this week
at The broncos. Facility is that what's? Happening or UNTIL i.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Saw it was going around the rumor, mill UNTIL.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I saw it was ninety seven degrees that, Day so
that could be a.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Problem speaking OF, UFOs i'd love to hear your thoughts
on any of the conspiracy theories regarding The Denver, Airport,
paul even if that's off.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Air, oh, yeah there's definitely conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Theories, oh there's tons of conspiracy theories about The Denver. Airport,
yeah you want to talk TO. UFOs? Yeah Should should
we also set the stage of expectations for joint, practice
what fans can expect to see a.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
Day. Yeah the head coach In denver is would rather
not have any video of practice out, There so after
after we get a chance to watch the stretching and
the individual, drills all video will be cut. Off so
anybody who's waiting to get video or see video from
the joint, practices unfortunately that's not gonna be available when
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The broncos are actually going against The. Cardinals but we
can tweet words and so they'll be tweeted.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Words you know, What Sean payton's not the boss of.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Us.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Whatever when's the next time we see a joint practice With?
Denver you, know set it out, Anyway.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Sean payton in the interview process When Jonathan hanna got
hired to come.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Here, Yes.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I'm just, saying, okay.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
All, right well let's. See i'm not better for the wise.
Guy i'm definitely not better for winning. Behavior but we
still have the rest of the week to get. Better
by game day In denver On, saturday.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
It's still the. Preseason, everybody that's, Right just think about
what you need to get better at and realize this doesn't.
Count ignore everything you're just.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know much, but I know this much. The
NFL is a coffeecat league. Can I get some buying
off the top here? Cardinals Underground. Darren Urban who wants
to disagree at any in all moments, but you agree
with that.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Dave McGinnis once said, it's not about copying, it's doing research.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Good, good, okay, all right, prep work all right, Danny,
NFL is a copycat league. Cardinals had their coverages the
end of last year and their disguises copied by other teams.
According to multiple members of that.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Secondary, I agree, it is a copycat league.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So with a'll do apologies and respect to mister Rogers.
We'd like to start this episode of Cardinals Underground by
just maybe you know, reaching into the closet putting on
big bowling event a little bit later. I just want
you guys to appreciate, you know, can't buy this in
the team shop. This is an official Cardinals kingpin right
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there there you go, bowling shirt.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How many of those did you? Mc paul?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
About ten maybe twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
We have a lot of Cardinals memorabilia that is not
sold in stores anymore. That's valuable, and so.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I thought i'd wear this, you know, just to I
feel like I earned it. You know, I'm seeing about
ten to twelve of those Kingpin challenges charity events over
the years.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So Finn, you know, are you a good bowler?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Absolutely not. They wouldn't let me bowl. They always give
me the microphone. They give me the microphone, and there's multitask.
There were some some money moments over the years I
have you know, I should tweet out later. I took
a picture I don't know why, of a bunch of cardinals.
Hey get together, let's tweet out a picture, and in
the back Carson Palmer photo bombs the picture with this
quizzical look on his face looking over. First of all,
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not many people on this planet can actually look over
like NFL lineman. But Carson Palmer was tall enough and
he photo bombed the back of it, and it was
pretty good. But this year, if you were to get
a Kalais Campbell back out there, the man cannot get
his hand to fit into one of those you know
bowling balls that's just on the rack. He literally palm
the bowling ball and just rifle it down down the lane.
(02:52):
So anyway, I just thought i'd start with this, Danny,
are you a good bowler?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't know if i'd say I'm a good bowler.
I went through a phase of ball bwling with some
friends out here, joined the league and had a little fun.
I can't bowl right now, mostly because I have these
nails on and so they're so long that I wouldn't
be able to put my fingers in the finger holes.
I'd have to spin it and palm the bowling ball,
which is not my forte.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So does that put you on the pup list until
you know til further notice?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Is that what you're saying until the nails come off?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Or she's just never going to bowl?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I do have my own bowling ball though. That was
part of the league we joined. That was the fun
and so it's the customized finger holes which makes me
seem legit. If I walk in with my bowling bag.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I think a bowling I think a big Lebowskian. I
realized at the end of camp. I was like big Lebowski.
I always had one of those cups in my hand.
I'm walking around with the beverage at all times. What's
going on? Good question? What's in my hand?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
How about a bowling our own Jim Amhundro is an
accomplished bowler according to this trophy here. His name's all
over this thing. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
What wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Give me some context on once upon a time like
the lamp when the organization was much smaller. In my
early days of working for the organization, we would we
would have organizational that we put on on our own
bowling events. Uh, and I know a couple of them. Uh.
(04:13):
There were coaches there from the coaching staff and we
all went and bowled. I wouldn't say it's the whole organization,
but there was a good a good number of us.
I think Ken Wizenhunt came out at least one time.
Those were much different times, but we would there was
like I want to say, I don't know if we
did it O seven definitely did an eight oh nine ten.
(04:33):
There was a There was years where we would Rob Brackle,
who is a one time video coordinator here. Uh, rest
in peace. Rob is no longer with us, but he
he would organize a bowling event and we would go
and a bunch of us from the organization. And Omo,
our fine producer, was an accomplished bowler and he would
often be in the mix.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
For that is so fun. How did Paul get to
be the one to hang onto the trophy?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, he didn't get to hang on to it. Almost
literally just brought.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It in before because he won the trophy last. I see.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's product placement, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Okay, that is so cute.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I'm sure it was only a humble maybe Cardinals Underground
by the way that reminds me of winning behavior, regrettably
is coming up a little bit later in this edition
of Cardinals Underground, and if we're lucky, we won't.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Get to the Jonas Brothers Demi Levado story. We won't
get to that.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I feel like there's some good winning behavior.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Topics hang on a wise Guy. I'm gonna try and
avoid that as well a little bit later, so I
might call a few audible. It's not sure we're gonna
get to everything on the game plan.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Just remember the wise Guy is it's preseason only, Paul.
This is where you can make your mistakes and get
it out where you're just trying to get your reps
in for the regular season. I think I think this
is gonna be the only reps you get on wise
Guy in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Estimate my ability to work in the Jonas Brothers and
Demi Levado if.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I have to, Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Where where there's
a where there's a want, there's a way, And we
definitely know you have the desire to work that in.
There's no no ought about that, all right, So here's
my segue. Preseason game number one. Who bowled a strike?
Who bowled a gutter ball. That's what I want to know.
Where do we start top takeaways?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, I mean, I don't. I don't know if anybody
really bowled a gutter ball. I mean, obviously, the one
of the top topics coming out of that game was
the loan interception that Kyler threw and what it meant
and all these things.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Seven completions out of eight and then won gutter ball.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
It was it was obviously a terrible pass. He acknowledged it.
I just I don't know. I've watched way too many
preseason games. I just I can't. I can't care that much.
I mean, obviously you don't want him throw an interception,
but just like the other seven passes, which were really good,
and that's great, but it was also, you know, a
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preseason game where you're not game planning and neither are
they can't. I can't get over my skis. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't have a great explanation for it. I don't
think Kyler did. I don't think Jonathan Ganner really had
a great explanation for it, other than to me, it
just looked like he aimed it a little bit. And
if you ever play baseball and you try and aim it.
You end up like Chuck Knoblock or Steve Sackson, the
balls going you know, offline.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I will say, watching it again, first pitch, it was disappointing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
The throw wasn't as disappointing to me as the choice
to throw, because even without the guy dropping in the
coverage and deciding not to cover Trey McBride, who was
in the flat wide open, Marvin wasn't open. So even
if that guy wasn't there, I don't know how that
would have been completed. Even if you get more on it.
That's just me. Uh, but again I see it. I
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just can't get all riled up about it.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Can I say this?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think that is the value of starters playing actual
preseason games. I'll give you that just based on Look,
you can't replicate a the physicality, be the violence, or
see the bad intentions of a defense in practice. I mean,
at any moment you can get your head taken off
in in in a regular game, whether it's pre season
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or not, and guess what guys played differently in that circumstance.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
As a quarterback in practice, you can assume that you
might get sacked and try and get the ball out faster,
but you're not getting touched. So to get those live
reps and kind of get the reminder of, Okay, this
is really the speed of the game. This is how
fast these defenders are getting back here, and I need
to get the ball up. That's what's important for preseason.
Kyler Murray had said to me going into the game
that however he played, whether he felt good or bad
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about his performance, he wasn't going to sit in the
emotions because if he doesn't see the field against Denver
or against Vegas, he's not seen the field again for
a month, and so either way, did not want to
sit in those emotions until Week one in New Orleans.
So I agree with Darren's perspective of don't get over
your skis on this. You're not going to be perfect
(08:48):
and that's not going to excuse necessarily if it was
the wrong move, but that's how you learn. That is
the point of these preseason games.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's funny the very first pass Will Johnson was targeted
on was a pass interference, and I don't see a
bunch of people saying, well, Will Johnson stinks. He like
we talk about how great he was, and then he
made this pack. And again, I understand Kyler's been in
the league longer, et cetera, et cetera. It just come on,
I'll be honest. My biggest takeaway from Kyler this game
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wasn't even during the game, and I had some other
people talking about what he was wearing in the second
half compared to Mahome still being in his uniform and
I want to stick a fork in my eye. Whatever,
But my biggest takeaway with Kyler was how he responded
after the game. Because here this is a guy who
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when he came into the league, his he did play
three preseason games as a rookie. He made it very
clear before the first one that he couldn't wrap his
head around the idea that you would play football games
that didn't count. And he didn't understand it, and he
didn't really like it. He didn't want he doesn't want
to play in the preseason generally. He's only played in
one other games since that rookie season. It was twenty
(09:59):
twenty one. He was terrible against the Chiefs, I mean
really bad, and they started seven to zero that year.
So whatever, and then, but what I took away was
he comes into the locker room or the press conference,
and he said a couple of times how much Funny had,
how much he really enjoyed himself. And I've been around
him enough that was genuine. Now, whether he's grown into that,
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whether he realized what Danny was saying was like, hey,
and what you were saying, Paul, like, I got to
get some of that there, so I can, as he noted,
like you you just don't. You don't feel that in
practice when you know that the guys are coming after
to kill me. But that made a difference to me
that going back to what he said to Danny in
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or sit down before the game, that he was going
to take what he could out of it, and that
tells me he took what he could out of it.
Do I think he's gonna play against the Broncos or
the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I do not.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I could be wrong, but I don't think he's going to.
So I'm glad he took something out of that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
By the way, he Let's not forget last year he
took the hardest hit I think I've seen in ten
years on the sideline when he got blasted by the
Jets edge and I remember literally just just shouting out,
you know, luckily the mic was down and it was off,
just like shouting out, OMG. I mean it was like, okay,
get a stretcher. I mean, that's how bad that looked.
(11:24):
We all remember that. And he popped right up and
he was miked up, and then you know, the officials
came over, Hey, you good, you're good, look at me.
You know, they wanted eye contact. He's like, no, I'm good.
He shook it off and stayed in the game, like
you sure.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
On that drive.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, he fumbled on that play and didn't lose it.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's right, that's right. Look to me on that. And
I said this on the TV show with Jonathan Gannon.
To me, the biggest thing Trey McBride's regular season ready,
that chemistry exists, but the what was it twenty one
yard grabbed by Marvin Rrison Junior at fifteen? It was
twenty one by Trey, fifteen by Marvin Arrison Jr. To me,
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that chemistry and to layer that between levels of the
defense for Marv to make a catch with his hands
away from his body, get down smartly, especially in the preseason,
the fact that was there and they connected. If they
can get half the chemistry between Marvin and Kyler. That
exists between Trey and Kyler. To me, that's where this
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offense elevates.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You saw a few a few little sparkle sparkles on
the offense. That catch by Harrison was across the middle.
It was good extension, good good chemistry there. Murray was
leading his receiver for that pass. You saw pre snap
motion and you saw Kyler Murray use his legs, not
in a crazy way. It was one of those off
(12:46):
script plays we heard Murray and offensive coordinator Drew Petsing
both talk about this offseason being a focal point that
they were going to work on in practice. Murray hanging
out of the ball, going through his reads, nothing was open,
ran through the pocket and used his legs for a
couple of yards. So those are good signs of things
we have talked about this offseason, and you're starting to
see little pieces of the offense from the however many
(13:10):
snaps it was the first quarter of play in the
preseason from the ones.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
The fact he was willing to run a couple of
times in a preseason game shocked me, and I wouldn't
have blamed him if he didn't, but that tells me
he was into it.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So Marvin was in motion on the fifteen yard grab.
And the reason I asked that is because Craig Grieolou,
all right, and you can't spell Grieolou without the AI.
He had some stat like last month where the analytics
said Marvin Erson Junior was in motion last year a
total of seven times, which is hard to believe now
(13:47):
being the outside X receiver. Okay, I guess so. But
to Trey McBride's comment during mandatory mini camp where there's
more sauce out there, I am curious how differently the
manner in which the Cardinals use Marvin Harrison Junior, what
that looks like once you get to New Orleans in
week one. I know, in the open practices, open to
the fans on display for everyone to see, you have
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seen a lot more of the cheat motions by Cardinals
receivers where you can move laterally as long as no
one else is moving one person in motion at a time.
And in fact I asked the was a Cleete blakeman
about that when he had the little media session, just
to redefine that for us, because I think we're going
to see more of that this year now. What we
also saw was James Connor looks regular season ready, you
(14:32):
can put him in that category. Trey Benson and Aq
Shipley made this comp on the air. He compared Trey
Benson and the jump cuts to a young David Johnson,
and I'm like, you know what, that is a money comparison,
as Trey Benson is chump cutting from the A to
the B gap then finding room at the second level.
And that was pretty encouraging and exciting to see.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I do like how Trey Benson looks. He only had
twenty nine yards on nine carries, I think, but I
think a good chunk of that was second unit offensive
line issues.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Which there are a lot of questions how that's going
to shake out on the final fifty three.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think it's very obvious why they wanted to make
sure they brought back Will Hernandez. I'm sure we'll get
to that at some point. So I mean that that
was I like how Trey Benson looked. I loved how
James Conna looked. Hell, I liked how Amari de Mercado looked.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
That's right, I mean, mister gamer himself, Mario.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Deemer, it's your first snap, why don't you take it
for a forty yard touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, that leads us to pretty much the only other
offensive player we haven't touched on, Jacoby Brissett. Yeah, as
your backup quarterback, and it was with the second team
offense going up against second team defense. So take that
for what you will. He was composed, he was not
rattled in the pocket. He was making some good throws.
(15:55):
It's it's a different feeling when you when you're going
into the regular season and you've feel fully confident in
a backup quarterback. I don't mean that as a knock
to Clayton or any of the other previous quarterbacks. Jacoby
Brissette has extensive experience as a starter in this league,
so physically, mentally knows what it takes. That is a
different feeling mentally going into the season feeling like you
(16:19):
don't have a significant drop off. Different skill sets than
Murray for Burssett, but in terms of leading an offense,
that's a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean Clayton as one career start, we all remember
it at Cleveland a couple of years ago. Jacoby Brissett
is fifty three, it's mid fifties, and he's played in
eighty plus games.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, totally different, and his career has been very good
with the football regarding turnovers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I think of last year he was the starting quarterback
for New England. Obviously Drake May was a franchise QB
in waiting TikTok and he played behind probably the worst
offensive line in the league in New England to start
last year, and then after five games, here comes the rookie.
But there was a game Week eight or nine where
he came in in relief and let a comeback and
(17:02):
they were like two scores down and he brought him
back and beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
His first series was three and out and his first
two passes he absolutely got waylaid, I mean hit hard. Yeah,
I wasn't sure if he was getting up from the
second one. Probably not ideal and certainly scary if you
had to hat your starter in there, But he got up.
He end up throwing a couple of touchdown passes. He
led that drive right before halftime. I'm like, I you know,
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I mean, he's gonna have if Kyler's not playing, Jacoby
Brissett's gonna have to play. But I wouldn't be completely
surprised if Clayton Tune played the vast majority of the
snaps the last two games.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I mean, as you're saying that, I'm processing it in
my head. I'm like, are we about to get eight
quarters of Clayton tune?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
You might?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
You might. I mean, honestly, that two minute drill was enough. Okay, Jacoby,
we said you're good.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
When we're talking about starters, I will be curious, especially
in Denver special teams starters a special team did not
look good. That did not look like what we are
used to seeing under a special teams coordinator Jeff Rogers.
So I'll be curious if Greg Dortsch and DJ Dallas
as your returner see some time in Denver just to
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kind of, I don't want to say, redeem themselves in
the sense of trying to keep their spot on this roster,
just mentally like clean things up.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I know.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Jonathan Gannon said before we recorded this that his plan
for the Denver game was probably going to not be
determined until Thursday night, and I'm sure that is in
large part because he wants to see what the joint
practices look like. The one thing you have going for
you going against the Broncos they have an excellent defense,
you will get to see your starters against this excellent
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defense and kind of see again in a practice situation,
not a game situation, but it might give you enough
where you're like, okay, we've all checked all these boxes
of what they look like against this kind of competition.
We don't need to put them out in a game.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
For special teams.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Though.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
To have two fumbles, one of which the Cardinals recovered,
and then Dallas had a monked punt, like, that's just
things you don't normally see what the Cardinals, specially especially
those guys, I mean doing it for a long time.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Those guys are good.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I tell you to me. And as the game was
going on, and I mentioned this with a Q Shipley,
I think it opens up the window a little further
for Xavier Weaver as a return man and Zay Weaver
I think he quited himself pretty well in the game,
had the touchdown catch. He was a problem, you know,
he was. He definitely you know, made some noise out there.
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But and Jonathan Gannon and Jeff Rogers have been pretty
clear about this. If you're the fourth or fifth receiver,
you're not getting a lot of targets, you're not getting
a lot of routes run so you better be a
force on special teams. Well, Xavier Weaver, really his only
role on special teams is going to be in the
return game. So when Greg Dorch is putting one on
the turf and he had DJ Dallas a couple of times,
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I mean, I think there's an opportunity for Zay Weaver
if he can shine in the return game. And these
last two, you know, it's he's still on the outside
looking in and trying to unsee DJ Dallas or Greg Dorsch.
But dot dot dot, you know, maybe after they saw that.
You know, I'm guessing his contract is a lot less
than a DJ Dallas if you want to get down
to the business side of things as well.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
The thing about DJ Dallas though, is he he can
play all the teams. He's not just a return man.
He's he's really good in coverage. I I just find
it hard to believe DJ Dallas won't be around for
those reasons.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I see the competition with Weaver more so Simi Fajoco,
both in that receiver room. Of their roles on special teams.
Fojogo has played special teams a lot in his career.
That's where I see more of the competition for Weaver
on special teams is in that receiver's room. Does what
Weaver is what Weaver can do on special teams greater
than what Fojoco can bring them.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It's totally different, you know, body type. Obviously, it's more
than Zach Pascal six', three big dude can run down.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Well and also to, note he didn't play in the
game because he was, hurt so we didn't get to
see him do what he.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Does by the, way if you're looking for one player
to follow during a joint, practice MAY i SUGGEST Dj.
Dallas based on last year In. Indianapolis the guy was
like the, agitator the. Instigator everywhere he, went things got
a little, feisty little you, know, hey get off, me
a little rooting Into, tutin and a couple of times
it was almost the womping and a. Stomping THERE'S Dj.
DALLAS i, mean he's So i'm. Curious i'm going to
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keep in half an eye on number twenty when they
go against The. Broncos i'm also curious see what sort
of mood The broncos are in because they had a
joint practice last week against the forty nine. Ers, yes
they're a little banged up after that joint practice and
the preseason. Game they're definitely more injured than The. Cardinals
SO i do wonder what things might look. Like you,
know what Is Sean.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Payton, well it's, FUNNY i. ASKED i Asked Jonathan gannon
about how the choice was made about doing one joint
practice instead of, two and he just He all he
said was we just decided what was best for both. Teams,
now this has been playing for only one since jump
like nothing has. Changed it was always only going to be.
(22:10):
One BUT i think to, myself if it's, this it's
the second week of the, preseason you're deep in training.
Camp if you only have, one you cover yourself in
that regard like we're gonna do. One BUT i, mean
it reminds me and you you guys remember this when
the Team cardinals With Cliff kingsbury went down To tennessee
and was supposed to have two against The titans and
only did one and it was essentially because. Injuries.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yep The denver defense is legit led the league last
year sixty three. Sacks Nick benito is an up and
coming pass rushing star and a. Stud they have several
other Guys Jonathan, cooper who they paid as. Well it's
one of the Reasons Baron browning was available for a.
Trade they're so loaded off the. Edge Zach allen one
of my favorite all time dudes And. Cardinals guess, What,
(22:51):
Zach you're dead to me this, week especially after you
made second Team All. Pro that's something we don't.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
NEED i can't believe you would say that About Zach,
allen who is.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
One of the nice, dudes nicest.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
People don't tell THEM i said. That let's get in
fact speaking to The. Broncos i'm told this might be
a good segue. Moment look At danny light. Up look
At danny light. Up, yes it is. BACK i can't believe.
IT i try to Go paully. Protest it is time
for Wise.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Guy it's time for the Wise. Guy the world's fastest
Growing cardinals quiz. Show the stakes are, low the winner
gets absolutely. Nothing here's your hostess with the. Mostess danny's
a right.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
MAN i have missed that, intro you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Know with a bowling. SHIRT i just feel more ready to.
GO i feel regular season ready.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Rocketed that's why you only need so many reps with.
Us but, again this is. Preseason wise, guy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Let's set the scene for those who might be new to.
Listening this is wise, Guys so we'll have this every
week throughout the. Season darren is our reigning. Champ he
wiped the floor With paul last.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Year so the fact this is pre and the results don't,
count that's really a bonus for.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Me similar similar to the players on the, field this doesn't.
Count this still. Matters this is getting you warmed. Up
so how.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Almost all those times When danny's been asking questions in
the office and he's not afraid of getting, hit you,
know this is this this whole.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Testimony there are four, questions and we do have tie
breakers if we have to go, there Since darren, One
NORMALLY i would allow the previous winner to choose whether
or not they go. First but Somebody i'm not gonna
name names did tell ME i need to do a
better job of setting you up for. Success, well SO
i am going really to allow you to pick first
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question one through, Four and wise, guys it's always it's
always catered towards the opponent or the city that The
cardinals are playing that, Week so that that's your. Hint
pick the number one through.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Four paul setting me up for success as a euphemism
for pity or feeling sorry for. Me, obviously the number is.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Three since nineteen ninety, three The uncles have used Several
arabian horses as their live. Mascot you'll see the horse
gallop across the field after every touchdown and field. Goal
what's the horse's stage?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Name stage? Name because apparently apparently he's got a regular.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Name now your question pipe?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Down where's where's?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh my? Goodness, Okay Xavan collins tell me. Out you're
the guy with a cowboy hat around, Here? Zavon where
are you WHEN i need? You the name of the
horse In? Denver?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Zesty that's WHAT i, say, anything and that's what comes to.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
MIND i will, Say i've been down there's that little
stall right by the field down. There i've been down
there many. TIMES i have no clue what this would.
Be i'm gonna go with stampede.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Challenger, challenger something like. That there's an ear on.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
It, No darren did not steal it is an E r.
Thunder that's, whatever, Right, darren your.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Turn i'll go with number, One danny.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
One The broncos home stadium opened in two thousand and
one As Broncos. Stadium today it's Called Empower field At Mile.
High can you name the two other companies that have
held naming rights to the stadium, hint think investments and
out of business.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Retail well one Was investco and the other one is
a sporting good. Store And i'm drawing a. Blank yes that's, Right, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
YEAH i don't.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Remember, well you have the opportunity to steal hmm, okay
it Wasn't Dick's sporting good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Steal, no it Wasn't big five. Stadium, no let's see think.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Of something out of business Probably.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, okay that's a that's a good. One oh, Boy
i'll go with, bike helmet place out of business close
sports authorady field.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Sports a turn off the.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Light it's not even.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Funny, okay ball two or?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
FOUR i mean although it was going hard on this,
time ALREADY i need a lifeline into a hand or
hand in. Sales uh what two or? Four, okay let's
let's go to this is a.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
PRESEASON I i feel good about this one for. You Kalaias,
campbell who was From, genver used to do a baseball
swing to celebrate his. Sax it was a tribute to
a legendary defense Eve, end who spent most of his
career with The chiefs but also won Two Super bowls
over three seasons while playing for The. Broncos who is?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
IT i know this, one, MAN i should know this.
One only four years Hosting The Big Red rage With Kalaias,
CAMPBELL i should know this. One and uh, yeah definitely
wasn't no? Idea go? Ahead Neil?
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Smith Neil, smith six time, selection two Times Super bowl.
Champ Darren, yes steal And darren's on the. Board, okay
so If darren gets us, right he. Wins but if
he gets the, wrong you the opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Steal Paul soo, said as long as we're not talking
about The jonas brothers And Demie, Levado i'll take the.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Ol wait here we. Go in the nineteen ninety four
Comedy dumb And, Dumber lloyd And harry set off on
a road trip to return a briefcase belonging To, mary
in Which colorado ski.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
TOWN i know that.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
One, COME i have never seen? It.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Darn darren wins to. Nothing do you guys want to
do the tiebreaker for? Fund since we don't play The
broncos in the regular, season just to.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Really more than fitting. THAT i think the only ANSWER
i knew was the answer to dumb and.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Dumber, okay here we go your here's your. Tiebreaker Quarterback
Jake blummer through ninety touchdowns in six seasons with The.
Cardinals how many touchdowns did he throw in the four
seasons with The. Broncos so you write down your number
and then you'll show me and who whoever you can
borrow my.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
POCKET i got a P i got a.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Pin how many touchdowns Did Jake plummer throw in his
four seasons with The. Broncos darren has showed me his. Answer, So,
paul when you're, ready you can say your.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Number seventy. ONE i, said seventy. One no, way, really,
yeah good, night everybody drives. Safely i'm out of, here.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The wind To. Darren but, again these don't count in
the regular.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Season you know What i'm now regular season, READY i
GET i get the rest of the preseason. Off i'll
see you In New.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Orleans If darren had taken you up on the offer
that you offered up every week Of Winner Take, all
you would have actually taken, off which he wouldn't Have, Okay,
Wow i'm so Happy wise guys.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Back, okay, Great now it goes to the bench until
the regular.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Season speaking of being back in another, Loss Will hernandez,
signed walked into camp and, automatically right then and, there
my mustache was second in the power poll by a country,
Mind Will hernandez and Then Gardner. MINSHEW i saw during
the preseason game his mustache was a that was the
next level right, there So Will, hernandez.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
WHICH i think WE i think we were able to
talk about that last week on the. SHOW i can't
remember if it was it was after, okay BUT i
MEAN i think ONE i think this was good when
when he spoke to, us LIKE i like the, idea
like he was, asked you, know did you were you're
always thinking you're going to come, back and he basically,
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said you don't want to walk away with some walk
away from something like this that we've. Built AND i
love that. Answer you can tell why he wanted to be.
Here and the other thing that was interesting to me,
was you, Know Jonathan gannon after he, signed made it
clear That Isaiah adams And Evan brown were the, starters
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but he didn't say for. Forever And Will ernandez didn't
say that. Either Will hernandez was very careful not to
diminish Anything Isaiah adams and Or Evan brown have, done
but he basically, SAID i feel like WHETHER i play
or not is up to, me and that's. FAIR i,
mean if he comes in and he starts looking really
good at practice and they feel like they can upgrade
(31:12):
by putting him in the, lineup they're GONNA.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I appreciate that answer From, hernandez and you're not going
to get anything different than gannon Of no, Right so
that answer makes, sense and it makes sense with the
play you've seen From brown In, Adams hernandez was immediately
put on the pup. List he's still rehabbing his knee.
Injury he tore HIS Acl week five In San francisco last.
Year he's going to have to get back in to football.
Shape that that's part of it is when you're, rehabbing
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you're not able to be. Practicing so it's going to
take some time before there ever might be true competition
For adams Or, brown and so at that point they
might be so good and so subtle That hernandez could
be a depth. Move and even if that's the, CASE
i like this. Signing hernandez played in all thirty five,
games started all thirty five games he played in as
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a cardinal the previous three. Seasons he has been. Durable
he plays clean. Football he is mean and nasty on the.
Field If Kyler murray gets a nasty sack and that
defenders up in his, Face Will hernandez is the first
one always pulling that defender out of his quarterback's. Way
even if it's, DEPTH i don't think it's necessarily just
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the right guard. POSITION i think this could be a
move broader. Picture if for some, reason you have an
injury to your starting center Yelled, defroholt and right for
the backup Is John. Gaines is something funky ever, happens
and you need to Move Evan brown from left guard to,
center who has significant reps in THE nfl at the center.
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Position Will hernandez has also played on the left side
of the. LINE i don't see this signing as just
depth for that right guard, position Where hernandez has mostly
played In. ARIZONA i see this as more of that
swing guard position depth by bringing him back for a.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Year, yeah it was. Interesting he was very respectful Of Isaiah,
Adams Evan. Brown he was also very confident in his,
abilities said the Film Don't lie at one, point and
he was playing some of the best ball of his
career when he went Down week six last. Year there's
no DOUBT i think he was The cardinals' best offensive
lineman based on just caliber of play the first five
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games of last. Year and there was one other disappointing
moment in the preseason opener when it was third and
one and The cardinals had to sell her for a field.
Goal and if you go back To week seventeen at The,
rams late first, Quarter cardinals got into the red, zone
they were. Driving it was a fourth and one and
they decided to go for it And James connor got.
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Stuffed there's one area where this run game can. Improve
it's on third and, short fourth and. Short you know
those gotta have it run moments where you need to
have a dude on the offensive line you're gonna run.
Behind is A Paris johnson. Junior this, year for, example
he went on the road and he went against arguably
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the best guard in the, Game Rob hunt for The Carolina,
panthers who got paid over twenty million a year as
a free, agent and what Did Chuba hubbard? Do you
know two out of every three run plays ran right
behind his big right. Guard you know what Did Bryce
young do right behind the big right? Guard Trey smith
just got. Paid he's now the highest paid guard in the.
League that's the kind of guy he is For Kansas.
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City so if Will hernandez can get back into the
same form he was a year ago at some point this,
season to, me that's gonna be critical For, November, December january.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Football right with, You i'm with, You and, again if You're,
ganning you don't have to make those decisions or even
talk about them Because Will hernandez isn't even practicing. Now
once he starts, practicing and if he's, active then then
there's gonna be questions and there's gonna be legit. Questions
but right, now why Would gannon talk about anything but
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those other two guys being? Starters because right, Now Will
hernandez couldn't even play if he wanted.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
To, OKAY o line legit question or. Not Jonah, williams to,
me one of the most encouraging things coming out of
the preseason opener was seventy three is it right? Tackle
to my recollection he did not take a snap in
the open practices we were allowed to. Watch he did
not take a snap AN o LINE d. Line he
did not take a, single.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
He didn't one on one on, ones he did not
take A but he was in all the eleven all
the eleven on. Eleven, true But i'm in.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
TERMS i, mean those THOSE o LINE d line drills
are by far the most physical aspect of, camp AND
i didn't, see but then in the game he was.
Playing SO i wasn't so sure going into The Kansas
city preseason opener That Jena williams would be just based
on what we had seen or not seen at. Practice
so to, me that's really good if you know now
whether he's done for the, preseason and you, know he's
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obviously experienced, enough and he was another guy last YEAR
i thought when the game, started you, know he was a.
Gamer he was sort of The amari De mercado of
the offensive. Line he looked a lot better in the
regular season than perhaps he did in. Camp so, okay
now all of a, sudden you can see this offensive
line round in the form because As darren you know,
this you can have all the weapons you want on
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offense if you don't have the offensive, line you're going.
Nowhere you're stuck in the. MUDs so to, me you
start from the inside. Out so there's. That that's. Good
any other names you want to throw out, There, DANNY
i Know Jordan.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Birch Jordan birch looked. Good he had a lot of,
pressures he was getting his hand on the, quarterback and
if some of those were negated by. Penalties he looked
fast and. Strong so DID.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Lj.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Collier Dante stills came out. Hot So i'm very intrigued
by the front seven of what you can get from
your defensive line and your outside. Linebackers And burch is
a new, face he's a. Rookie to, See stills And,
collier who have been here for a few years at this,
point seem like they are really going to have good
seasons based on what we've seen in camp in the
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first preseason, game WHICH i know it's, okay of course
everyone's gonna look, good but they have they have won
a lot of. Battles So i'm very intrigued at the
growth we could see from those. Two in particular two
interceptions Cornerback Darren, hall rookie Safety key And crawford looked,
good And gannon told Us paul on THE tv show
that those were not interceptions that hit him in the.
(37:06):
Chest they had a good read on the, offense a
good hands to bring the ball. In so those were
two impressive takeaways by the, defense no.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Doubt you know you're talking About Dante stills AN. Lj,
Coller you're talking about the fifth and sixth offensive lineman
or defensive linemen on this. TEAM i, mean think about, It,
Kalais Dalvin thomas And Darius. Robinson i'm gonna Throw Walter
nole in the third in. THERE i, mean think of
how different that is than a year. Ago those were
your two best defensive linemen for most of last year
because of. Injury, yeah and now they're, fifth, sixth seventh
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on this depth.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Chart With Justin. Jones, YEAH i, mean, yeah a lot of.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Depth So i'd like to know How Elijah simmons graded.
Out maybe we'll get some more information that he, did
get some reps and know. A. Q shipley also shouted
Out Xavier, thomas you know on the.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Interception, BYE i Thought Xavier thomas played well Those The darren.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Holl interception in, particular does not happen without pressure From,
thomas which is.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
INTERESTING i feel Like Xavier thomas hasn't been really somebody
that's caught your eye in. Camp, true but if he's
doing in the, game.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
And is there one roster spot between him And Jordan
birch at this.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Point If I'm Xavier, THOMAS i hope not Because Jordan
burch is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
On he's gonna be on the. Team BUT i mean
it looks like he's playing with that sort of Mindset
Xavier thomas's. Been he's been pretty locked.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
In you give shout. Outs we do need to give
a shout out to someone. Else you just Mentioned Aq
shipley's first time on the call with you on. Radio
you both did a great.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Job, NO i appreciate that our heroes. There the fact
he's not nervous at. All it's just he wasn't nervous
in the press, conference wasn't nervous in the. Booth you,
know maybe it's the McAfee effect where it's a total
chaos of being on that show for so many. Years he's, like, oh,
yeah this game stuff is, nothing you, know but he
was a complete.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
NATURAL i love having the perspective of a Former cardinal
a center and, like no one's going to Replace Ron
Wolf Lee wolf played a dirty. Position right, center also
a dirty. Position SO i think in some sense it's
a similar perspective staying in that broadcast, booth WHICH i
think is a good.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Thing somebody tweeted as a response to one of the
plays that was Jim. O mahunter tweeted out one of
the plays with the radio, call and somebody, REPLIED i
think The cardinals have a type.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's, good that's. Funny, well what Was wolf's old? Saying
you never want to be at the bottom of that.
Pile Aq shipley was at the bottom of that pile
most of his, career so you, know and his stories are.
Epic wait some of the stories that he, has wait
till they come out on the. Air people are really
going to enjoy A. Q. SHIPLEY i firmly believe that tremendously.
Popular by the way down on the, field we went
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down the field before, kickoff fans are shouting them, out
players are coming, over assistant. Coaches it's like seven degrees
of separation with A Q. Shipley he knew, everyone.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
You, KNOW i will, say and everybody Loves. Wolf but,
again when you when you've been in the booth for twenty,
years a few years after you had already retired in
the first, place you get further and further away from
the game and your your connections are. Fewer A Q
shipley just retired a few years ago and then he
was coaching and obviously the McAfee. Thing he still has
a lot of touch points within the, league by.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
The, way in terms of position. Battles and we talked
a lot on the broadcast about that inside linebacker spot
next To Mac Wilson, senior which isn't going to be
a constant on the. Field you, know it's not gonna
be a three down. Position we get, It but do
you think it's still a Keen davis gaither his? Job they'll.
Lose how close is? Own? Papal we did ask the
coach this week on HIS tv, show and what was the? Word?
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Tight so really? Tight that's what are you, Saying.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I'll be, HONEST i, thought and And gannon kind of
alluded to this a little bit uh in his press conference.
Tuesday papal has had a pretty good. CAMP i didn't
think he had the best, game AND i don't Think
gannon saw a great game from him. Either now it's
one preseason, game AND i DON'T i couldn't really tell
you How Davis gaither really would have. Been but like.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
You, know the fact That Patrick mahomes only played forty
eight seconds in the game because of the, TURNOFFS i
couldn't even get in speaking of the radio, broadcast are
these great stats On Patrick. Mahomes i'm going to throw
one out here because they didn't get a chance to
throw it on the. Air do you realize that in
his last seventeen one possession, Games Patrick mahomes is seventeen and,
oh that is a mic drop. Stats, well they.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Were eleven and oh last year in one possession. GAMES i,
mean everybody wondered how they were doing it last year
because on a week to week, basis they were finding.
Away and that's part of the reason why not everybody
was completely surprised with how The Super bowl turned, out
because if it goods, sideways it could get. Sideways and
The chiefs aren't what they were three four years ago
(41:48):
in Terms now maybe that's gonna, change we'll, see but
that's why it helps to have one of the best quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Ever, well they rebuilt their offensive line that The cardinals
went after their defensive. Line you know you knew that
by halftime in The Super bowl they needed to do.
That all, right winning behavior in three two? One can
you display winning?
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Behavior you have to consistently display winning.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Behavior that's winning.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Behavior you've got to define what winning behavior is and
hold people to that.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Standard, yes that's my. Bad by the, way the booth
thought we were going on three and the snap COUNT
i went with. One so that's my. Bad that's.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Okay it's pre, Season. Paul it is pre work on that.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Cadence let's start right off the top here with FORMER asu.
Manager that's HOW i Know Pat murphy is now The brewers.
Manager AND i did see a little bit of, this
so wait a. Minute he's Doing And danny would appreciate
this handling all THE tv interviews in the. Preseason So,
danny what if you're interviewing a coach on the sideline
(42:51):
and then all of a sudden they reached into the
pocket in their shirt and they took out what a.
Pancake here's the.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Thing he didn't take it out of his shirt. Pocket oh,
no it was out of his pocket in the. Rear
there's no WAY i saw the, video he had a
regular un like it. Was it was not in a,
Package it was not in.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
A just a braw raw, pancake well not.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
RAW i was, cooked but it was just by, itself
and he had it in the pants pocket of a baseball.
Uniform now has he sat down in the dugout at that?
POINT i don't.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Know, yeah the reporter took a. Bite but if it's
coming out of the back.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Pocket AND i took it out of his back, pocket
the reporter took a, BITE i, mean did the reporter
get a tennis?
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Shot there's two there's two parts to. This having snacks
on hand easily on hand that is winning. Behavior having
snacks on hand that aren't in a protective thing in
a baseball uniform not winning.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Behavior there's just one. Response if somebody offers you a
bite of a pancake they took out of their back,
POCKET i just ate.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
PANCAKE i, mean is he? Sweaty what's going?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
ON i think these are concerns that are.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Fair so that's Good.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
DAN i think IF i ever bring snacks on game,
DAY i think they're already wrapped package and they're in
my fanny.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Pack so you know you need like A nike commercial
With Mark sanchez the butt fumble and Then Pat murphy
with the butt pan. Pancake oh my, goodness, OKAY i
think we need we.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Should we should trademark.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
That oh, boy all, RIGHT i always like anything that
has to do with outer. Space of, course meteorite punched
a hole in A georgia homeowner's. Roof everyone's okay?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Here.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yes they then determined that the cherry tomato sized meteorite
that went through the man's roof like a bullet and
left a dent in the floor this home Outside atlanta
is actually older than The earth. ITSELF i love that.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Idea WHAT i, mean older than The. Earth So i'm
curious how long has that thing been traveling through?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Space so for them to get that, information who did
he call for them to start looking into all of? That,
right that's my.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Quest, yeah that's a good.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
One who do you? CALL i, mean the roofing company
isn't gonna lead you to any sort of. Researchers so,
Yeah university Of.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Georgia there's a geologist planetary geologist at A university Of.
Georgia so it will probably be hired by The eagles
at some point because he's from The university Of, georgia.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And SO i hope he hasn't had any speeding. Ticket
he takes the.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Bus SO i guess the old saying you're oldest. Dirt
apparently this meteorite was older than.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Dirt winning behavior for this meteorite for lasting longer than
The earth.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Once, again and this is why you guys need to come.
Around so my way of looking at. Things of, course
there are. UFOs there's way more we don't know than we, do.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
DON'T i Think i'm necessarily against that. Thought i'm just
not as passionate about.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
It as you OR i did see this IN nfl
Network Seahawks Marshawn lynch pulling A Randy johnson and and
he's a Photographer.
Speaker 4 (45:58):
Seattle once upon a time you has to become a.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Phiographer and so there he, is except he was defending his,
position so you're supposed to give way as a photographer
of the. Sideline so the.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Video is this The seahawks running back was coming out
of bounds Towards Marshawn. Lynch and, yeah if you're on the,
sideline and you two know exactly what this all is,
about because you're on the. Sideline you're trying to get
out of the. Way, hey if this guy's coming full,
speed you're just. Moving Marshawn lynch just put out a.
Forearm he basically, said get off.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Me ground its.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Equipment it's the best forearm shugar we've seen in any
camp all, year just like, this just but it's, like you, know,
boom just get off me with The. Yeah SO i
think that's a. Violation if you, actually you, know defend
your position and actually physically strike a, player don't you
get your your press cred pulled from the. Sideline i'm
pretty sure.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Something tells Me Marshawn lynch is not getting his press
credential pulled In.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Seattle send the intern down to Pull Marshawn lynch's press
Cred see how that.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Goes you can't even find him because he's just, There
so it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Happen and the good news, Is, danny we don't have
time to really talk About danie labat.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You we always have, Times. PAUL i will really do
my best to make this an abridged. Version i've already
Given darren the rundown pack of.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Lunch, darren this IS i got it all yesterday in
the half.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
Hour verre is there is legitimate cultural significance for The
Jonas brothers bringing Out Demi levado on stage to start
their new tour and their hometime this week.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
After Taylor swift is going on The Kelsey podcast and
dropping new album Album. TAYLOR i know you're, not but
like you're talking about a cultural touch point when it's
already been.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Usurped Taylor swift has twelve. ALBUMS i, mean.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
Come, On, caitlin what are you talking?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
About, okay let me just set the stage really, Fast
paul about the significance with The Joe. Bros And Demi.
Levado it is the summer of two thousand and. Seven
Camp rock has just come out and has Changed Disney
channel fans. Forever jonas brothers are in their. Peak, okay
they are about to. Set they are about to start
their first major tour and well in.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
The next the world's off ass of.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
This Demi levado gets her big. Break she was she
was a kid actor On barney but gets her big
break on Camp. Rock and the other main character of this,
movie which was a good, movie good, music it Was
Demi levado And Joe, Jonas so he's not just a
cameo as A jonahs. Brothers he is the main. Actor
they are love interests in the movie and actually become
(48:25):
love interests in real. Life they're two. Teenagers that's what
happens in The Disney channel. Realm everybody knows. Everybody so they're.
Dating they break, up and, unfortunately this is a time
that starts a tumultuous decade For Demi levado because she
starts dealing with mental health, issues drug, addictions going through
relapses while she's on. Tour all that while she's Dating Joe,
(48:46):
jonas the younger Brother, nick not the, youngest but the
youngest in the. Band they are best, friends and As
demi is going through a tough, Time joe is not
really there for. Her their friendship. Falters they have no.
Communication nick does not Invite demi to his. Widding so
decade has no no, No so we're talking more than a.
Decade and for The Jonas brothers to open up their
(49:08):
tour and their hometown stop At amo Of New, jersey
to everybody's, surprise they bring Out Demi. Lovado it was just.
Incredible they sang camp rock songs. Together it showed that
they had reconciled their relationships that everybody. Loved it's hard
BECAUSE i don't know what no, OFFENSE i don't know
what to equate this to from a show or a
movie or a band that you guys grew up. Watching
to have these love interests come back not as love,
(49:30):
interest they're all. Married it was just. Incredible the icing
on top was they also brought Out jesse, McCartney who
was the heart throb of all heart throbs during this.
Time do not take this as a sign to reconcile
with your toxic. Exo let's make that very.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Clear i'm going to say. This danny has brought up
many things on getting cultured and various things like, this
and we all enjoy being informed as we. Are this
is by far not that she's not genuine about the other.
Stuff you can tell reaches deep in the.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Day on two thousand and, SEVEN i was at That
Jonas brothers. Concert we my friends AND i and my
sister and her. Friends we had gone To, target gotten
the plain white v neck teas AND ti died them
for this.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
CONCERT i had never heard of camp, rock and this
is the First i'd heard Of Demi levado being On,
Barney SO i did learn something, today even.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Though it's not getting. Culture that is winning behavior for
The jonas brothers And Demi levado to reconcile bring her
out on. Stage she sounded, fantastic gave all The jonas brothers.
Hugs it Was it was really a moment.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Online my only offering there is do you still have
the tied eye? Shirt do you still have the tide
is in a box?
Speaker 3 (50:38):
Somewhere and my parents at some POINT i did learn That,
caitlin our team. Photographer we didn't know each. Other she
was also at the. Concert how about?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
That, no, no.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Boy, Okay so that.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
That was really important for. Me that was huge winning.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Behavior i'll go find my authentic tied eye shirt From.
BERKELEY i got to bring that in one. Day that'll
be in the next, uh you know, wardrobe you know
prop to to bring.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
In denver is a place you can wear TIED, i isn't?
Speaker 2 (51:03):
It oh? Yeah oh. YEAH i was just In colorado last,
month and the old joke About colorado is. True where
the mountain bike on top of the, car the mountain
bike is worth three times as much as the. Car
that's Very. Colorado that's that's what you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
Say DID i hear correctly that you guys are going
to actually film bird watch THE tv show this week
at The broncos. Facility is that what's? Happening or UNTIL i.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Saw it was going around the rumor, mill UNTIL.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I saw it was ninety seven degrees that, Day so
that could be a.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Problem speaking OF, UFOs i'd love to hear your thoughts
on any of the conspiracy theories regarding The Denver, Airport,
paul even if that's off.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Air, oh, yeah there's definitely conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Theories, oh there's tons of conspiracy theories about The Denver. Airport,
yeah you want to talk TO. UFOs? Yeah Should should
we also set the stage of expectations for joint, practice
what fans can expect to see a.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
Day. Yeah the head coach In denver is would rather
not have any video of practice out, There so after
after we get a chance to watch the stretching and
the individual, drills all video will be cut. Off so
anybody who's waiting to get video or see video from
the joint, practices unfortunately that's not gonna be available when
(52:13):
The broncos are actually going against The. Cardinals but we
can tweet words and so they'll be tweeted.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
Words you know, What Sean payton's not the boss of.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
Us.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Whatever when's the next time we see a joint practice With?
Denver you, know set it out, Anyway.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Sean payton in the interview process When Jonathan hanna got
hired to come.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
Here, Yes.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I'm just, saying, okay.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
All, right well let's. See i'm not better for the wise.
Guy i'm definitely not better for winning. Behavior but we
still have the rest of the week to get. Better
by game day In denver On, saturday.
Speaker 4 (52:50):
It's still the. Preseason, everybody that's, Right just think about
what you need to get better at and realize this doesn't.
Count ignore everything you're just.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
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