Cardinals Underground - The Schedule, The Battles, And Speed Limits

Schedule release is upon us, and while there will be a 5 p.m. Wednesday surprise along with your dates and times, Paul Calvisi, Darren Urban and Dani Sureck are here to tackle the big picture topics – like how did the Vikings get two international games and another team (say, the Cardinals) didn’t get one? Also in the discussion: potential Thanksgiving games, the greeting card industry, the importance of when you play an opponent, Mack Wilson Sr.’s charity hoops game, a new Getting Cultured, the “perfection” of rookies this time of year, the best camp battles to come (hint, a lot on defense), this week’s Winning Behavior, and a highest speed limits around.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the
five and end of the end.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Zone for the touchdown.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Touchdown, Kyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces. All
that was nasty right there? Rights slam on the ground
by fooda baker like a torpedo. He came flying into
the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Here's Paul Calvic.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right, here's the way I see it. If if
Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe can be reinstated, if the
Vikings can play back to back games in Dublin and
London this season, if North Dakota can now have a
top speed limit of eighty miles per hour. By the way,
how many states do you think have eighty eighty four?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
For sure, I'm saying, what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, the number one. The highest speed limit in the
land is eighty five and it is Texas. You are correct, Danny,
the Texas. Yeah. If the Rockies can be on pace
to lose one hundred and thirty something games, you know,
if Bill Belichick can sit next to his girlfriend's father
at the Miss Main USA pageant, and if the Rams

(01:40):
can go to Maui for Minnie Camp, we can most
certainly deliver this edition of Cardinals Underground poly podcast Aaron
Urban and Danny Sirek, who is just itching to get
to Getting Culture.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It's a really good one and we're back on camera
this week.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
That on to Alex So not necessarily in that order.
In fact, none of the above will really be covered,
except Forgetting Culture, which we can't wait for as.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
I don't know, I see a lot of those things
on the rundown.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
As we are waiting here, we are in waiting mood
or mode, are we not? Ye?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
This might as well be a waiting room. And then
when your name is called, your number is called, you know,
the light comes on and it's your turn.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
But how badly did you miss your light last week? Paul?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know it was sort of there in spirit, even
though it wasn't on camera. You're right, Darren, But right
now I'm just praying to the schedule gods. I left
the obligatory voicemail for Raj about the Cardinals schedule and
to be kind with the road trip to Cincinnati and
Tampa in particular. See, really, this year's schedule for the
Cardinals is about who are you going to play early?

(02:43):
And who are you going to play late?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
And who are you maybe going to play Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Or Christmas for some people or Christmas? Right now?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Christmas was all announced?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Was it all announced? The okay, catch up?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
You got to keep up, Paul.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Christmas?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Wait, I've been tracking them here. You're right, okay, you're right. Absolutely,
Christmas is okay? All right? So at this and the
International Games are done done.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Okay, we don't know Thanksgiving yet, And it keeps I
keep getting this vibe that Danny has a dog in
that fight, but I can't speak for sure.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, one of our opponents, one of our road games,
hosts Thanksgiving every year, So that would be really nice
for a selfish reason to just be home for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Is it a big deal in Dallas? Because I covered
the Lions for a few years. In Detroit, it is
a really big deal in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yes, it wasn't until I was out here for Thanksgiving
and doing friendsgiving or going you know with friends families
that I realize most people do Thanksgiving early in the day,
like lunchtime. That's not how it works in Texas, at
least around Dallas. I can't speak for Houston, but in
Dallas you don't eat Thanksgiving until halftime. Everybody gathers at

(03:54):
the start of the game and you're snacking during the
first half, and then during the halftime performance on Thanksgiving,
that's when you down and you have your meal, and
then when you're nice and full, you go and you
stay on the couch for the second half. And people
like to have Thanksgiving like eleven in the.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Morning noon, so I like that game plan. In Detroit,
it's an earlier game, so you go to the game
and then the meals afterwards and you end up you know,
friends and relatives' houses after the game. But that's good halftime,
and it's extended halftime because usually there's a big performance. Right.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Don't get me started on thinking about greening cast role
this early.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
In the year. Pond. Oh, no, we can't get may
We're not talking green being cast.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
No, we can't get that device. And if you want
to get divisive about about a holiday, we'll talk Mother's Day,
right Darren.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh my god, that was divisive.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
Before we started record, I told my wife at one point,
I'm like, look, I don't want to say bad things
about the Mother's Day cards. But again now I'm sending like,
get off my long, guy, But like when you go
to the store now and a greeting card costs like
seven dollars, and I'm like, you know what I said

(04:56):
from now on? I said, maybe, and make sure you
tell the boy I want no Father's Day cards. Put
it all aside, and then we'll have a nice little
nest egg for whatever grandchildren that might need to go
to college that probably will pay for it. If you
don't buy me fathers, make your own cards.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
My sisters and I do that. You can make a
pop up card. Although I will say one of the
best gifts we ever gave, although my sisters.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Would disagree for Mother's Day.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
For Mother's Day, we were young, and we gave her
a shoe box full of coupons. So the coupons would
say like, we won't fight for the day, we will
do the dishwasher, I mean elementary school young And each
coupon could be used I don't know up to three times.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
But they're effective.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
But there were no expiration dates, right.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
But if your mother has given you that we won't fight.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
And she had, I don't think my mom ever used them,
but my sisters weren't happy that you could use them
multiple times. That was my dicision.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know what, if you guys are getting shopping advice
from yours truly, then really it's a bad day for
the both of you. What are you guys even thinking?
Don't make your own card and don't and seven dollars
per card? Just go to the dollar store. They have
tons of cards dollar dollar twenty five somewhere less than
a dollar. I know because I walked in last week
and I bought like five of them. They were so cheap.

(06:11):
I'm like, well, this one could be good, this one
could be good. Maybe the kids will like this one.
I actually got one from the dog. I violated my
own role.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
No got his own card.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Because it was like sixty cents.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Okay, but here's the deal beyond the price of the card.
And I'm a writer by trade.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
And being a smart shop earns me the.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Light beyond beyond the price of the card.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
All right, that was still serving.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
If all you're doing is having this card that you
paid whatever you paid, sixty cents or sixty dollars.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm not overpaying for this car.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
What are you writing in that I was at a muffler?
Is it heartfelt?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes, as long as you add something to it. But
there has to be a nice heartfelt inscription in the car.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Is it Mother's say that you guys are putting your
foot down on the Hallmark card company.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I'll do it. I'll do it on Father's Day, I'll
do it on birthdays quite frankly, even though I do
think birthdays should exist.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, someone, someone in this department, we've learned, does not
believe birthdays should exist. But instead you should only celebrate
Mother's Day or Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm saving my disdain, my disdain and ir is being
saved for the rams going to Maui. That's that's That's
where I'm just really conserving.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
All Australia Next year, man, I think I.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Have designs on the Pacific rim there. What's going on
the rams. We have to really uh, you have to
counter that somehow.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm salty about the international games.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
So I hear the Cardinals have a banger of a
schedule release.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
That's what I heard on Pat McAfee.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, all right, is that kind of an international term?
Is that like the whole banger of and then fill
in the blank like bangers and mash. Yeah, Like that's
what I think of.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Okay, you're sounding really old right now. I'm like, I'm not.
I'm almost as as old as you parted.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Should I follow that up? Should I follow that up
with TV HJK. I don't know, you know, just what
exactly is going on there with that whole terminology?

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Do we need to move on to getting cultured right now?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Like? Man, well, here's the other if if the NFL
can turn the whole schedule release into a three hour
prime time show, it can't A will, but it can't.
They will and they are. And there's almost as many
platforms as there are games this year in the NFL.

(08:31):
So I mean you got to you gotta have like
an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of where and when
and how and what country NFL games are appearing and
being televised, and you know what, that's good for business.
That's exactly why Roger Goodell drew it up.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
It is a business. It's why one day this week,
Fox was announcing their games on television and then ABC
got to announce a game that Amazon primes. It's not
all just happening at once. Now they're making a hold
to do about the whole week, just first schedule release,
which shows you that people care. Right, It might seem silly,
but the fact that they're doing it says that numbers

(09:07):
are proving it's effective. So people really want football when
you've gone a couple of months without it. I am
salty that the Cardinals do not have an international game,
especially when the Vikings have two. Why do they get
two and we get none?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh? Can I answer that? Because they won fourteen games
last year and didn't host a home playoff game. And
I don't know much, but I know this much. Home
playoff games in the NFL are very lucrative, and so
I'm guessing the Wilf family said, hey, throw us a
bone over here. We won fourteen games, didn't get a
home playoff game. We want the international games. We want
to market. We want to be able to bring our

(09:43):
fans overseas, and you know the whole thing that goes
along within international games and why they're coveted by NFL team.
So Roger did a ma solid.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
And I will say the only thing I'm going to
say to that is, let's make clear that the Cardinals
only had one opportunity to have an overseas game. It's
not like there's eight overseas games and you can have
whatever they could put whoever wherever you have to be
playing a road game at whatever team was given these
these games. And the only team that the Cardinals visit
this year that had an international game as a home

(10:14):
game were the Colts. So there was one chance, one opportunity.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I really thought it was going to be the Cardinals.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
They can capture it.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Okay, Okay, it's been since twenty twenty one in Mexico City,
which was supposed to be a twenty twenty game for
the Cardinals. Yes, I was just surprised that they weren't
selected as a team against Indianapolis.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Trust me, I wanted to go to Berlin myself, but
alas we will instead go have some shrimp cocktail in
downtown Indianapolis, which a place that I go every year
for twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yes, I know who to ask, but I've been there.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
It's different when you're there for the combine versus going there. Good.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, Okay. So look, by the time some people are
consuming this addition of Cardinals Underground, brought to you by
Pacific Office Automation, the schedule might be out. But once again, uh,
nobody really asked. But it doesn't really matter. I'm just
here to tell you there are certain teams you want
to play early, and there are certain teams you want
to play late. For example, you want to play New

(11:24):
Orleans as soon as possible. If they're going with Tyler
Shook and they got a brand new head coach, a
rookie head coach, and Kellen Moore. Okay, Jacksonville with the
first time head coach, first time coordinators. I mean Jacksonville
is what twenty nine year old OC three or four
years ago was an assistant to the head coach and
in charge of special projects. So these guys are going

(11:47):
to be learning on the job. You want jacksone like
that was.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
An indirect shot at Nick Ralis, who was young and
did a pretty good job when he stepped into coordinating.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Was a position coach for many years before. He was about,
how about Tennessee with cam Ward Right, you want to
play them early?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
How about Tampa? You want to go to Tampa early?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Paul absolutely not. Friz factor, don't want that. And and
then there's laps out. There's there's Cincinnati and Zach Taylor
and his record in the first month of the season
is seven fourteen and one the last two years. They
we have Trey Hendrickson the Bengals to start of one
and four to one and three, and Trey Hendrickson confirming
to the media he has beef with his head coach.

(12:28):
Not good. Uh, we'll see how that turns out. And
then there's the matter of Dallas. Danny, do you want
to play Dallas early? I know you want him on Thanksgiving?
But what about the Cowboys early? They have a first
year head coach of Brian Schottenheimer. And yeah, just saying,
although Dallas is getting the Marquee season opener at Philadelphia, I'm.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Surprised that wasn't Washington in Philadelphia. At this point, the
ratings for Washington would still be high just based off
the season they had in the hype around Jane Daniels.
I was a little surprised that the Cowboys got that
Week one again the Eagles. You know what you say
that Paul Seawanheimer has been with the Cowboys. It's not
like he's unfamiliar with the staff, with the quarterback, with

(13:09):
the pieces they.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Have, and Paul's perfect schedule. We play first year head
coaches like eight weeks in a row, it's right.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And then you play the Niners late because they're always
injured and they're a shell of a team by the
time you get to December, so you want the Niners late.
And then, honestly, I don't want to really want any
part of Jordan Love or c J. Stroud or the Rams.
You know, Sean McVay. We don't sweat Sean McVay. What
am I saying there? And then there's Seattle. I don't
know what to make of Seattle. Very interesting Seattle. There's

(13:36):
a hot I wouldn't even say it's a hot take.
It's their longtime beat reporter in Seattle who's reporting that
Kenneth Walker might be in the crosshairs going into the
final year of his contract, and they want a more
of a north south run game. They're going with the
outside zone Clint Kubiak from the Kyle Shanahan tree, and

(13:59):
they might be more apt to go with Zach Charbonnay
due in part to games like he had against the
Cardinals a year ago where he just one cut go
north and south, and they feel like Kenneth Walker is
running around looking for the home run, the chunk run
all the time, and they just want to, you know,
move the chains and get north and south. And he

(14:20):
averaged more than a half yard per carry better than
Kenneth Walker. So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
We'll see Wednesday five o'clock Arizona times when the full
schedule drops.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Correct by the ways and otherwise.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
By the way. Some of the the off season video
mikel Williams eleventh pick overall to the forty nine ers,
that guy could be a problem.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Are you talking about that dumb video where he knocks
down a overweight guy with a pad?

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, you're tired.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
There's that, but there's that's nothing.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
There's just just I can knock down that guy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
There's other there's there's also some other conversations with some
of the town.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Evaluates hypothetically, if if your team used a first round
draft pick, a very high first round draft pick, on
a defensive lineman that was vomiting during rookie mini camp,
how would you.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Feel that wasn't here?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
It was not here up north in Cleveland. You guys
can see that video of Mason Graham vomiting helmet.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
No, oh, my goodness? Really?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, all right, Well, I don't think any rookie in
Cardinals camp made that sort of impression, good or bad.
Any takeaways from what we've seen and what we know
of the Cardinals rookies arriving in Arizona so far, I'll
go first, Hayden Connor is a heck of an interview. Yes,

(15:40):
that entire offensive line room is a heck of an interview.
I shared this with Darren earlier off air, Danny that
if we're looking for money, content and content is always king.
We need to figure out a way to have a
podcast with offensive lineman on this team. Every single guys
in unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
They would all be broke. They find each other when
they have to do media.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
You phrase, it is money content. I told Paul, I'm like,
how are we gonna where's the money coming from for
that content?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Good question. What was Paul's answer?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, we you know we hand or hand in sales.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
You know we're gonna we're gonna discuss some do some guy.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Some guy sold the Maui mini camp for the Rams.
Let's get on it. Let's sell an offensive line podcast A. Right,
I can't think of everything, right, I mean, you know
you guys, somebody else bring it Home's execution.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Guy, right, Mayo to Tuna Fish?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
What else? What else is about the rookies showing up
that you like or has stood out? And he's sort
of other interviews. I mean, honestly, I think it's some
of the year. Two guys who are stilling the headlines,
you know, Darius Robinson and Marvin Harrison Junior winning the
off season.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Right, Although it was funny I talked to I was
at Mac Wilson's charity basketball game over the weekend and
I go to Daris a little bit and because I
was asking him all like you look, you look chiseled,
and he's like yeah, and he goes, well, me and
me and Marv have been at the facility basically every
day since the season ended. But he said his weight

(17:07):
hasn't changed at all. He's just got lean muscle now
instead of anything. He's still around to eighty.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Five, he SAIDs like it, like it? Okay, what else?
What else? From the from the basketball? Let's see Marvin
he can get up and dunk. Yes, that was impressive.
Trey McBride easily just off two feet dunking with two hands.
You realize how ridiculous as athletes these guys are when
you see him in another sport and they excel like that.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Darren Hall can play a little bit of basketball.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I guess he was out there.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Okay, Mac Wilson can shoot.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Darren Hall one of the dozen cornerbacks team.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
There's many cornerbacks on this steat there are. It was.
It was a cool thing. I mean, I guess in
the end, you keep your fingers crossed when they play
basketball little. It was enjoyable.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah, it's also fun when teammates show up to support.
There were a handful of teammates that weren't even participating
that we're sitting courtside.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah, there was. There was a ton of guys and
I thought that was good. And you know, ultimately you
want this team to be close and that's something Mac
told me. Mac Wilson told me after the game is
He's like, when I came here, one of the things
I wanted to do was do what I could in
the locker room to help the team get closer, because

(18:18):
he said, every good team I've ever been on, it's
been close, they've been so, I mean, obviously that worked
out well there. And I think, as Michael Wilson called Mac,
he's a connector and with his personality, you can kind
of see that. So it was very it was cool
to see.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You know what. It couldn't be any more subjective, but
the good teams that really excel and are successful do
seem to have that camaraderie off the field, off the court,
and you can't really pinpoint it. And it's, like I said,
it's just abject opinion. But I mean, if you think
of some of the really good teams over the years,

(18:58):
last twenty years for the Airson A Car, those teams
that I mean, they were tight. They were hanging out
the old No Fly Zone doing their thing. I mean
just you know, the Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, all the
costumes in the high jinks, and you think about the
teams that have done well, they have been tight off
the field.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Yeah, and I think that's natural. And again when we
talk about a tight team, we're not. It doesn't necessarily
mean all fifty five guys are always hanging out together,
but you have good cross section of offense defense, and
it doesn't you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
When you have three dozen rookies over the last three years,
drafts and undrafted guys, it's sort of you're getting closer
and closer to the same age group, guys hanging out.
Not as many guys, you know, married with families because
you know, it's a younger team that it's ever been.
So I could see that speaking speaking of staying young.
All right, Danny, you get your wish. Here we go.
Let's kick it to Danny for what should be arousing

(19:53):
addition of Danny will segue.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
To you getting cultured. With Danny, it is not just
directed at Paul.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes, you got me very excited.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Now I am on social media and consume more at
pop culture than both of you combined.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Right off the bat. I'm gonna have to bring in conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Calvc all here we go. Finally something I know something about.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
We go. Here we go. The Dallas Mavericks have earned
themselves the number one pick in the draft for the
first time ever, despite having one point eight percent odds
to win the lottery.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's eighteen ping pong balls out of one thousand.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Here's where Calvic conspiracy consults and comes into play.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Bring it.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
People around the internet on the interreb think that the
NBA has conspired with the MAVs after general manager and
Nigo Harrison traded Luka Doncic to the Lakers supposed lee
to boost ratings for la pair him with Lebron James,
and then Dallas was rewarded with the first pick. And

(21:09):
the reason people think this is a conspiracy is looking
back the last couple of years. Okay, when the Cavs
traded Lebron James to the Heat in twenty ten twenty eleven,
Cleveland had the number one pick, they took Kyrie Earring.
The Pelicans traded Anthony Davis in twenty nineteen, the Lakers
the next year first pick Zion Williamson. Darren is awfully

(21:31):
quiet for an NBA fan.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
I've just I have a hard time wrapping my head
around this kind of conspiracy. What would be the point
I saw Wolf arguing this on Arizona Sports. If you
really think it's a conspiracy, don't watch Go watch wrestling.
Who they're open about exactly how stage it is. I don't.
I think it's funky. But like as I've heard pointed out,

(21:56):
there was probably four or five teams that could have
gotten Cooper Flagg and you would have said, oh, that's
a conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Are you a fan of the draft lottery system?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I I liked the reason they put it into place.
It's a lot easier to tank straight out in the NBA,
in my opinion, So I like that it got put
into place. I think it's gotten two sideways in terms
of how hard they make it for the worst teams.
I mean, you can't at some point, you've gotta you've

(22:26):
gotta make it. You just gotta deal with the fact
that you have bad teams. And I get it, But
like you've you've made a league where it's so easy,
where one or two guys change everything. So yeah, it's smart.
It's smarter to tank. It just is. But I'm not
a fact like I don't understand how the absolute worst
teams of league, the Hornets or the Wizards or whatever,

(22:47):
they're picking five or six. You want you want to
stop them from picking one? Maybe one and two? Okay
after that?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Come on, Now, the NBA has two serious problems. One
is All Star weekend. They gotta they gotta, they gotta
redefine that. And then this NBA Draft lottery. People just
aren't buying it. It's just not working. And to that
whole scenario you just laid out, Let's see here, Luka
Doncic was traded to the Lakers without any other team

(23:14):
being considered. Hmmm. So if Dallas ownership said, you know what,
we're not gonna pay him the Mega Mondo contract, and
then that word got to the league, obviously I was
say on, just send them to the Lakers, will take
care of you on the back end. Do you believe
that there's too much at stake for the future and
the viability of the NBA to think otherwise? I hate

(23:37):
to say it, but do you think there's any chan
you think there's any chance that Luke ever would have
ended up in Charlotte. There's a reason why they controlled
the trade process. Are you telling me if Dallas would
have opened it up to an open bidding process and
brought in all these other suitors, that they couldn't have
gotten so much more in return than just Anthony Davis
and a few frivolous picks.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
But I see, I can how can that happen? I
can argue with you that they knew it was good.
The owner says, get rid of them. No matter what,
it's gonna be unpopular. So you want to keep it
as secret as you can. And if you start opening
it up, it's not gonna be secret. And then then
you're gonna be in a position where the owner you're
not gonna be able to trade Luca because it's out
there that you might trade him, and then the owner
gets pissed. Now again, I can't stop people from thinking

(24:20):
what they do. But I just think that it's the google.
I mean, I watched plenty of years with Kobe Bryant
where the Lakers sucked and the NBA did just fine.
So don't don't tell me they were all worried that
the Lakers were gonna be try. The Celtics had a
streak where they weren't very good. The Knicks have had
been the Knicks are in freaking New York and they've

(24:41):
been terrible up until like three years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
But it hasn't been from Malacca effort. Go back to
the David Stern draft where he's got his hand in
the hopper and he's searching for the frozen envelope. Because
that frozen envelope is Patrick Ewing going to the Knicks. Oh,
I found it, and boom, Patrick Ewen goes in the next.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
We're getting the pin wheel out there from let's move on, okay,
next on getting culture. Pope Leo, I've heard of him.
I got yelled at in a room by Darren last
week because I randomly whipped around in my chair and
started asking questions and Darren said, hold it, hold it,
hold it. That is a great getting cultured point. So

(25:17):
I've been sitting on my questions for a week, which
is this, Logistically, how does it work when you get
a new pope?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Right?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
What if he had doctor's appointments or things schedule with friends?
Who packs up all of his belongings?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right?

Speaker 4 (25:34):
He went He went to the Vatican, probably not thinking
he was going to stay as the pope. So does
that mean he no longer gets Thanksgiving or Christmas at
home in Chicago. These are the questions that I have
that I wasn't allowed to ask last week to Darren, the.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Pope can move around. There was a pulpobile that you
have to have a pulpmobile if you're gonna be mobile.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Catholicism is not my strong suit.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So I mean he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I'm asking questions.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
That I have.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I mean, he doesn't have a four hundred million dollar
luxury plane, but he does have the ability to move
anywhere he wants as the leader of the Catholic Church.
And yeah, the white smoke isn't coming out of the
smoke stack until the new Pope is good and ready.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
So so then so yeah he can. He can bounce
back to the apartment and grab his Paul Konerko jersey
from two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's all right. I mean, you know, he's the Pope
for the most part. I think they do live a
life of austerity, right, and you know they give what
they have to charity.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
The biggest win for White Sox fans in decades.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, all the Rockies once again tracking to outdo the
what the White Sox did last year and end up
on the power, poling incompetence.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well you both have now been cultured.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
You're welcome, all right, well done, well done. That was
worth the weight. Let's hope the schedule is worth the
weight that it was for getting cultured with Danny. By
the way, in terms of the rookie impressions, was there
anybody out there, I don't know who sort of looked
the part. I mean, it's hard not to look at
agents zero, just with the jersey on Will Johnson and

(27:10):
not see the possibilities at least I do with him
competing for a starting job right out of the gate.
I just think he is going to be a factor
on the depth chart from day one, Will Johnson, especially
if he is indeed such a good scheme fit. And
it was interesting what Drew stan said on the Red
Sea Report this week that you look at his last

(27:31):
two defensive coordinators at Michigan Wink Martindale, who supposedly runs
really complex NFL caliber defensive scheme, so if he mastered that,
he shouldn't have much problem, you know, really mastering the
Nick Ross JG system. And then before that he had
Jesse Minter, who is now the NFL defensive coordinator for
Jim Harball with the Chargers. So anyway, you talk and

(27:54):
then you talk about some of these guys who have
already played sixteen game college seasons. Denzel Burke, Cody Simon,
Hayden Connor, all playing sixteen game seasons. I mean, there
ain't no stinking rookie wall anymore. These guys seem to
be as NFL ready as ever.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Well, there is NFL ready in terms of length of season.
That doesn't necessarily mean they're ready in terms of talent
level or ability to play right away. But I mean
we're gonna see, like Hayden Connor, I'd be surprised if
he's getting snaps this year, Denzel Burke somebody, I'm really
I mean, we've talked about Cody Simon, Denzel Burke, somebody
I'm really curious about, Like, does that kind of playing

(28:31):
time really impact what he could do coming in? I
don't know. I mean, they've drafted a lot of high
cornerbacks higher than the fifth round where Denzel Burke was picked,
and you just talked about Will Johnson. I'm like, there's
only so much playing time to go around.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
This is sort of the in Seinfeld terms. Did you
ever watch much Seinfeld, Danny, I did because.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
That is my dad's favorite show. He could quote you
every single episode.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
This is sort of the perfect girlfriend face where every
single rookie on the list is like perfect, right, every
single rookie is gonna come in and be a pro bowler,
Hall of famer. You talk about every guy making an impact.
You could make a case an argument for every single
draft pick. It's sort of the old Seinfeld episode where
there was that early stages of dating, right, and the

(29:14):
girlfriend is perfect because you haven't figured out or realized
all the flaws yet.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
So we're gonna bash on Mother's Day and then we're
gonna blame the girlfriend for maybe why a relationship doesn't
work out.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, I was trying to I was trying to think, like,
if you're going to talk in terms of like TV
shows or movies everyone has seen.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Wait, how did we bash Mother's Day? I bashed the
card industry?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You know, I could bash those participating like a couple
of teenagers who are underwhelming in their efforts and their
old man had to pick them up on Saturday night. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
I think this should be open to the poll of
the people, like as parents, like at what point do
your kids need to take over their either Mother's Day
or Father's Day to their own.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
It's my sisters and I who deal with the gifts
and the dinner reservation and all that stuff for our mom.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
You should, but you're also well past I mean, I
would hope. Oh well, I mean, you're just gonna stop
right there, Darren.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
How many times have you said the words she's your mom,
not mine? I just I get that feeling.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
I don't think I've ever said that.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Okay, all right, I'm trying. I will say a role
play you holding them account.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
I had to text them because they didn't let mom
know what was going on for Mother's Day, and she
kept saying, are they doing anything? I don't know?

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Gotcha?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Okay, Sorry, I derailed us.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Looking at the whole Jordan Birch situation, I'm just gonna
throw that out there real quick. Danny, you had a
chance to sit down in this studio and talk to
the Cardinals third round pickout Oregon? What stood out? What
would you come away with after talking to Jordan Birch.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
You can tell from Birch and from all of the rookies,
the only expectation that has been set to them is
to do what you're asked. That's very clear when you
ask one of them, are what are the expectations for
you throughout rookie mini camp, right throughout this offseason program.
It's do what I'm told, show up every day and
so has That was clearly drilled into their minds day one,

(31:16):
and that's the mentality is to come out and just
because you were drafted doesn't mean you've earned a spot
on this roster. You have to go out and you
have to prove it and earn it. Birch is an
interesting player in an interesting position room as somebody young
who can come in and make an immediate impact. Josh
Sweat is going to be interesting to watch throughout camp
and we probably won't see much of preseason, but early

(31:37):
in the season of is that going to be a
true rotation or are we going to see more Sweat
and just a heavier rotation opposite of him from the
outside linebackers than we have seen in years past. But
when you look at this room, yes, there is veteran
presence in that outside linebackers room. There's still an opportunity
though for Birch to come in and make an impact
because the players that are in that room, have you

(32:00):
usually been used in that rotation base? So if you
can find somebody that can go and can and can
be a number two honestly opposite of Josh wet, that
would be huge for that outside linebackers room.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
I'm fascinated to see what that room looks like, that
depth chart looks like after Josh sweat. Yeah, there's a
lot of possibilities.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
B j O Jalar who was at the basketball game?
Was he not? I saw him there.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
He said he would not be playing basketball. I don't
know if you'd heard Paul good move. He was still
rehaving good move.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, Baron Browning, Xavin Collins, Xavier Thomas mac Wilson Senior
when needed, will come off the edge.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
I don't think he's going to be needed anymore. I mean,
you still might want to use him out there, but
I don't think I think the need part, I think
we're past that right.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
See to me and and and this is really just
just throwing it out there. But to me, I see
similarities in the body type and the skill set of
a Jordan Birch and as Xavin Collins, both around six
to five, almost both around two seventies or so. Jordan Birch,
I think at one point mentioned they might want him
to lose a little bit away get down closer to

(33:05):
two seventy and the two to eighty. Both guys can run,
and Nick Rawlss employs him as such. Zamon Collins and
I've mentioned this many times, he told us to the
end of last season, the Big Red Rage, he had
played six different positions, so I could see a Jordan
Birch on passing downs. You know what, kick down to
a three technique You're gonna wear and do something crazy
here one of these eleven card pick up things that

(33:27):
we like to talk about and have fun with him with.
Nick Rowlis Drew stand on Red Sea Report called it
say quarterbacks referred to it as a radar defense. When
the radar goes around, be be right, and the little
dots show up in different places. That's what a defensive
coordinator tries to do and mess with a quarterback. Zamon
Collins is that piece, and now I think Jordan Birch

(33:48):
could be that sort of piece and that interesting and
that thinking just because he can run and he has
a side.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Wasn't it the fake punt that we saw that speed
on display.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Not to mention he's also our new bestie. Win it
comes to jumbo goal line packages, either give them the
ball or let them pave the road for James Connor
at the goal line. John Gaines, just concentrate on interior
offensive line. No longer are you needed in that capacity.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I'm super curious to see just how Nick Rolis deploys
this defense. Is it going to be as have as
much trickeration as it has in the past, or does
it become more simplified because you've upgraded the talent to
the point where you can do that.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yep, we're all the exotic schemes out of necessity. Was
that a need or was that a want by Nick
Ross the last couple of years. Did he say, you
know what, we got to figure out a way to
affect the quarterback. And if we don't necessarily have all
the dudes and we're really injured up front two years
in a row, then guess what we're gonna have to
generate it via scheme. So the Darren's point, are you

(34:50):
more apt to rush for and drop seven and because
now you have the dudes, guys who can win upfront
one on one? Yeah, I think that's very plausible this year.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
I think when you're looking at intriguing camp battles, you
go right to the defense. You're going to defensive line death.
What is that going to look like? Another position room
that has relied heavily on rotation in the past. You're
looking at outside linebackers, what does the depth chart look like?
Undersweat cornerbacks? I think is going to be really exciting.

(35:23):
And there's questions in your mail bag. It feels like
the last couple of weeks there and about Will Johnson
and coming in as a rookie and is he somebody
who can start immediately drafted in the second round. And
I think I'm not as convicted as the two of
you and believing that the answer is automatically yes, only
because of the talent we saw from Starling Thomas and

(35:43):
Max Melon. And I think that's going to be a
very exciting competition there of who you're starting cornerbacks are
going to be. And Cody Simon the linebacker, right, is
he going to wear the green dot? Is that something
you're going to give a Keen Davis Gaither who was
brought in in free agency because it's been Kaiser White
the last two years, who is not on this team
anymore as a free agent. So when you're thinking about

(36:04):
all the different position battles, the mind for me goes
to defense and then it's kind of pick and choose
where you want. I think they're all going to be intriguing.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
And that's why I still think I don't know who's
out there exactly, but I still think of Manias and
Fort would be evaluating. That's why I think these these
rookie mini camps phase two going into mandatory mini camp,
it is valuable. It is telling in the following way.
Is a Cody Simon swimming is he you know? Processing?
Is he you know? Is he is he asserting himself

(36:35):
in calling a defense when you're out there and mandatory
mini camp and it's eleven on eleven at least, you know,
is he reading and recognizing and getting you into the
right looks and adjusting and calling the audibles and the
checks and all that as a defense. If he is,
then okay. If he isn't, then maybe you're thinking about, well,
who's out there?

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Yeah, And I think that's something that happens. You know,
we're not going to know about that until training camp
I don't. I don't see them making any moves now
until training camp. You you get this full layout of
the off of the off season. If you're gonna bring
in a veteran, I'm sure that veteran isn't gonna be
all sad if they miss OTA's and mini camp and

(37:14):
then you bring them in and maybe right before training
camp starts, or maybe even you give somebody a week
in training camp to see kind of where they are,
if it's gotten any better, and then you pull the
trigger on something that That is what I would anticipate
if they made any more moves.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But to me, if you had to do a power
pole or the biggest camp battles as it stands right now,
I would go with corner. Not only do you have
twelve corners, but you have at least five guys who
could viably start if.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
See and that's when when you talk about camp battles,
I enjoyed those conversations. There's always camp battles for roster spots.
It's the ones where you're saying, who's battling for starting spots?
And that's why I like, and I agree with you, like,
I think that's fairly wide open. I mean, I think
Garrett Williams is going to get a lot of playing
time and probably start. But other than that, like I

(38:05):
do think it's wide open.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean you mentioned Starling Thomas who started nearly two
dozen games the last couple of years as an undrafted rookie,
Sean Murphy bunting, Max Melton who finished with a couple
of strong games last year. What sort of year two
leap is Max Melton going to take? Is a high
round two pick just a year ago? And then Will
Johnson and then Denzel Burke. I mean, you know, at

(38:29):
fifty one games at Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Let me ask you guys this question, like what's better?
Is it better to when we talk about these starting spots.
Is it better to have a good idea who's going
to be starting? Or is it better to think, no,
this is wide open? What like for a team? What
would you rather have.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
From the coaching standpoint? I think I would rather have
we have an idea of who the starters are going
to be. What they're going to tell the players is
wide open.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Totally different. What they tell the players is always going
to be which one? But like would you rather know?
Because you could make the argument it if you don't
know and it's and it's truly wide open, you can
either make the argument we have that many good players,
or you can make the argument we don't have enough
good players.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
See. To me, it's based on the position. Like, if
that's a situation at quarterback and you don't know, that's
not a good sign.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
That's no boy no.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
But if it's running back and you need two, three,
four running backs over the course of a season, that's
really good because you need depth, you need a rotation
defensive line, you need depth, you need a rotation cornerback.
You could probably argue either way. You know, I happen
to think and we talked about this a little bit
with True Stanton, who was a teammate of Sean Murphy

(39:44):
Bunting's in Tampa. Yeah, his best position might be nickel corner.
You could argue, is nickel corner.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
That was that was the kind of the line on
him when he signed here.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
So well, wait a minute. You have one of the
best up and coming, fast rising corners in the league
and Garrett Williams. Unless Garrett Williams might see a little
more time on the outside.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Don't know, that seems unlikely going into year three. Just
how little we've seen him outside, But it's possible he
can play outside for sure, and then.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Edge like Josh Sweat, Okay, highly paid, highly sought after,
you know, once again cannonball, the splash sign in the
off season, Josh Sweat. Guess what he was in a rotation?
At least he told us sitting right here right after
he came to the Cardinals, he was looking forward to
getting more snaps as an Arizona Cardinal than he ever
received as a Philadelphie Eagle because they were so loaded

(40:36):
across the defensive front. But wait a minute, what does
that mean? Because we know Jonathan Gann and Nick Ross
like to bring those guys in waves and like to
have rotations. Is he truly going to get that many
more snaps? I don't know. I mean, he has a
salary and a signing that would say yes. But I'm
curious as well.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I don't know where to put b j O Jalari.
Like last year we knew he was going to start.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Are we going based off how he looked to training
camp last year before he got hurt.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
I don't. I don't know what we're going off of.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I mean, he looked good at that point, he did, Yeah,
your top sleepers, your top unknowns, go bjo j Jeli
would be one of them. Isaiah Adams, right guard, Isaiah Adams, Rabbit,
Trey Benson, Trey Benson, these are all These are all
players who could come in and earn a starting spot.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
So couldn't we put Daries Robinson on that list?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Could do you have enough.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Based off the six games as a rookie?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Not really? No, I mean nothing concrete. I would say no.
As good as he looked in August last year, that
doesn't count. That doesn't matter. He didn't do it in
the regular season. So for that, Okay, it's an unknown.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Let's ask this question. Okay, taking the edge guys out.
Let's say you're starting a base three four, so you
need three defensive linemen. Who would your three today? Who
are your three defensive lineman starters?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'm looking at the depth chart here. I would I
would go a Dalvin Tomlinson.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
I would I.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I want to say kalais but and he's been a
start of the last two years. He has started all
seventeen games each of the last two years. But you
would hope that he'd be more of a rotational piece
at age thirty eight. Yes, you would hope Darius Robinson
or Walter Nolan would be that guy. Speaking of unknowns
and sleepers, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols, what are you? J?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Collier?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
What do you? Yeah? What do you have? Especially in
those first two guys who played a total combined nine
games last year?

Speaker 5 (42:33):
So competition baby?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah? I mean once again, how many defensive linemen can
you carry out a camp? The last two years it's
been six. You have eight keepers a piece, it's going
to be more than six. You have Darius Robinson, Walter Nolan,
Dalvin Thomas and Kalis Campbell four, Justin Jones, Blall Nichols,
Dante Stills, LJ. Collier eight.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Yikes, they might not need as many outside linebackers, right
if if you if you're if you want to keep
more defensive linemen, how many outside linebackers do they carry
last year?

Speaker 5 (43:05):
Do you have that special teams as part of that? Though?

Speaker 4 (43:08):
True?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Have they converted to a four to three and we're
not aware of it?

Speaker 5 (43:13):
They might have.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Is the riding on the walls or.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Do they just want to have that ability, like for
example Seattle with Klint Kubiak, I talked earlier about how
they want to go with the outside zone scheme. We
know how Christian McCaffrey is going to be back, and
you know, Karen Williams. You contain Karen Williams, you beat
the Rams. At least that's been how it's worked with
the Cardinals the last two years. So maybe they want
to have the option of when we got to go

(43:39):
with four and five defensive linemen at times based on
the opponent. We want to have the ability to do it.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
We can ask when it comes to training camp. I'm
not I'm not feeling good about the fact we're going
to get an answer. Might just have to wait and
watch week one.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
All right, Uh well, I don't know if that's considered
winning behavior by the media or not. But for other
winning behavior, here we go. Can you display winning behavior?

Speaker 4 (44:05):
You have to consistently display winning behavior.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
That's winning behavior.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold
people to that standard.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yes, all right, we already mentioned the Rams going to
Maui for Minnie camp Nuff said, right there, Travis Hunter
on a cool story on a plane, really cool.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
He ends up he ends up next to a woman
who uh far be it from me, but maybe a
little bit of an older woman. She needed some help
with her luggage. He offered to help her with luggage.
She had a lovely conversation with him. Even better, she
had no idea who he was. And I always love
those stories where like the person they're talking to is

(44:47):
like completely unaware of like this guy, and oh, so
what you know? What do you do and what are
you going to.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
It wasn't part of the story. People were coming by
and you know, tapping them up and knuckles and congratulations.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
That Jag, the Jags sweatpants that he was wearing, and
she asked me if he was an athlete. He said yes,
and she said immediately she told her sons she needed
his jersey.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
I saw somebody reach out on Twitter somewhere and say,
who knows miss whatever her name was that she was
being referred to, and have I want to get her
my tickets to a Jacksonville game.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
So there's a lot of yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, and
his answers.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
I do like Travis Huns. I do like Travis Hunter. Yeah,
and he also just graduated too, and.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Being the being a Jacksonville guy. I mean, that's exactly
what they need for the franchise. Right, hometown kid, serious
winning behavior. Right could revolutionize the game in a modern
way if indeed he's effective on both sides of the football.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
I saw this online, which means it's only fifty percent
possible that it was true. Is it true that he's
going to change his number? Like change his jersey? That's
what I thought.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
That seems he's wearing twelve. He's wearing twelve, and that's
what he's gonna wear.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I did see that, but I think somebody I just
I didn't look into it.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
That's fair. Jacksonville visits State Farm Stadium this year, and
you might want to check out the schedule release that
comes out Wednesday and find out when Jacksonville State Farm Stadium.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
You know what was a banger back in the day
was the whole sports talk radio on Pete Rose. Do
you know how many hours I have spent debating Pete
Rose on sports talk radio in my younger days. And
now just like that he's been reinstated. Him and Shoeless
Joe really really shueless.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Show kind of got screwed over a little bit. Shoeless
Joe wasn't If you go and look and read up
on that whole thing. Shoeless Joe wasn't the brightest bulb
in the shed, and he kind of got snukred into
by some of his more advanced teammates into that whole thing.
Pete Rose knew what he was doing was wrong, and
he did it anyways. And I'm a little torn on this,

(46:52):
but with everything that's happened, and especially with gambling and sports,
it was inevitable. Plus most people that thought one way
about it back when it happened, and whenever that was
nineteen ninety one, whatever, whenever, whenever the suspension came down,
most people are way beyond that. Danny could give a
flip about Pete Rose and what happened.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Back nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Okay eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
My stances always Look, it's the Baseball Hall of Fame.
It's not the character Hall of Fame. It's not the
good person Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Bet On Baseball, just put.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
It up there, on put it up there on the
plaque unless he did it during his playing days, enshrine
him as a player, and put on the plaque he's
been banned from baseball for life. I mean, just come on,
just taking.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Ourselves I'm on the other sports Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
You're taking it too seriously.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
That would be an interesting discussion for any major sport.
What would it take for somebody to be banned for
life these days? I don't know that as anything.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
I mean, that's a good question. I mean, if they
were in the sport when whatever happened happening.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Here's one.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
How about I mean NBA, who was it? That was
just they thought that he was betting on games Eade.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
I don't think he did.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
And he was went to Miszoo. Why can't I think?

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I mean, he was banned for life, but nobody's gonna
care about him, John Taye Porter because you know he didn't.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Wasn't anybody well stand over there with Tim Donahey the
ref and okay, uh you know it could get your
band nudity on the red carpet at cans, right. I
mean they say serious winning behavior, Paul, they've instituted new rules. No,
they're just.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Apparently they're just reiterating their rules. But there's been too
many examples. I'm surprised this didn't make it into winning
getting cultured. There's been too many examples on the red
carpets of see through something or others and such that
they felt like, Hey, I'm just the heads up.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
I'm curious if we say that's winning behavior, okay to
ban is that being a prude? And if you say
it's not winning behavior, you pro nudity in public?

Speaker 5 (49:01):
I don't know if it's I mean, you know, I
think that I don't think you're going too far out
there and saying you're prude. If you're like, it's a
red carpet situation, let's you know, trying leave a.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
Little imagination, little to the imagination.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
They've also banned voluminous outfits, in particular those with a
large train, so no brides, No brides on the red carpet.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I did see some of those at the met gala.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Because it quote hinders the proper flow of traffic of guests,
and it complicates seating in the theater. It's not permitted.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Paul, You've been a part of many many red carpets.
I've seen you out there.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I mean, let's go, we got a traffic jam here
because this, uh, this lady's train is taking up half
the red carpet.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
My goodness, you know, a VC air traffic controller over there.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I mean, I can't tell you how many red carpets
I've gone down in my day, and the train is
always a complicated process. There's there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Uh and then scorpion Honting. I don't know how we
make that segue, but that made the list. Apparently I
just had to bring this up.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
There's been some concern over one of our coworkers team,
photographer Caitlin, who just moved into a house and apparently
wasn't aware that there's lots of houses out here that
have scorpions and she did not want to consider that.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
I wonder she feels better or worse after purchasing the
black light because now she can see the scorpions or
would have been ignorance and is bliss.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Well, you were not around when the original conversation happened.
Some Arizona veterans, myself, Mike hel Mike Chavez, we're talking
to her about it. We're the ones who brought up
the black light and that's how you kind of figured
that out. And originally I'm surprised she did it because
quite frankly, she didn't want to know. She wanted to
go all Ostrich and stick her head in the sand,
and she didn't, and now she's terrified.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Some free advice from Calvis Consulting after too many years
here in the AZ go and Google up certain zip
codes in the Phoenix metro era that are known for
being inundated rife with scorpions. It exists.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Oh yeah, maybe after Darren exterminate to your house, Paul,
he can make his way to Caitlin's.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
There you go, that's right. What about what about the
off season? I totally forgot about you.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Oh it's been brought up your side, hustle. I don't
know if she's going to hire my services, but I
did say I would give her a one sheeter on
everything that she needs, all the chemicals and stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Your secret concoction secret it was, it's real deal.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
But like I said, I'll pass along this information. This
is what we do. We pay it forward.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
That's good, Okay, all right, well, you know the more
you can do, as they say, So that's good, Darren,
the pass.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
The speaking of the more you can do. Let's not
forget to mention Kyler Murray has a celebrity softball tournament,
a softball game on Saturday night coming into this, So
that's May seventeenth thought at Salt River Fields on Saturday afternoon.
If you're looking for something to do, and I think
the weather should be okay.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
He's the star in more ways than one. Not only
is it his charity, and not only is he K
one QB one, but oh, by the way, he was
a top ten pick in the Major League once upon
a time. I in particular, I'm curious to see how
he swings a bat and how far he can launch
a softball. I'm guessing he's going to rocket a ball
into the stratosphere. That's my guess.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
Does that translate what's that baseball to softball?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Oh? Sure of course it does.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You know, I mean gotta be patient, hands back, hands back,
wait for the that softball to arrive.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Speaking of patient, are we going to go an entire
episode without something being deemed worthy enough to turn on
your lamp?

Speaker 5 (52:29):
I thought he did turn on early for something.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You're right, I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Don't want you to force it if nothing has deserved it.
I just I want to know where the standards are.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, what would be you know? Danny's uh, Danny's getting
cultured was definitely a ding. There's no no doubt about that, Uh,
that Darren's rant about Mother's Day. I don't know. It
seems sort of anti American to turn the light on
for that one a little bit, you know, And then, uh,
I don't know. I kind of liked my There are
two kinds of games in the NFL for sideline reporters,

(53:01):
games with a roof and games without a roof. I
thought that was some expert analysis right there.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
By the way, there are two non division games without
a roof, Tampa and Cincinnati. Okay, let me ask you all, God, schedule, Gods,
please deliver as we get to the close here, what's
the one game? And I'm assuming it's a road game,
and maybe you've already answered it with the Dallas game.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
What's the one game? One road game? You want to
know where it is, when it is? When it is
we don't wear a shut up.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah Dallas, if it's Thanksgiving?

Speaker 5 (53:30):
Yeah, okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
A good one. Let's see here. What else when it is? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Is it either Tampa or since it would have to be,
which one, though, you've got to make a call.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
You know what, I'll actually take the Cincinnati col versus
the Tampa humidity and potential.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Rain, so you want to know. I want to know
Tampa because it's very well could be our only two
day trip of the year, So I want to know
when we're going to be out there, what's that weather
going to be like on Saturday head out to the beach.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It's true. I didn't think about that.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, okay, Paul, I usually just I don't jump in
here too often. But you mentioned that the Bengals game
you don't mind the cold. Just a reminder on January tenth,
nineteen eighty two, it's a Freezer Bowl game, a wind
chill of minus fifty nine, so good luck with that.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Well, we won't be there in January tenth. I feel
good about.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
That minus fifty nine in Cincinnati, win chill. Just it
could have wind chill.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
It doesn't meet on January.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
Don't you don't remember the Chargers Bengals game in eighty two.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
That's true. Yeah, coldest you've ever been in and we'll
leave it there. Coldest ever been in It was thirty
three below wind chill Kalamazoo, Michigan. I was about twenty
four coldest you've ever been in. Go.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
I don't have actual stats, but I did live in
Alaska for a year, so I know for a fact
it was damn cold a few times. I remember getting
off the plane when I was five years old because
we were moving there and we got there, well, it
was dark. I can't say it was at night because
I don't know what time of year it was been.
Could have been one in the afternoon, but it was
pitch black. We got it. We're outside in the in

(55:04):
the parking lot and it was snowy and wind windy,
and I saw my dad for the first time, and
I don't know two months because he was up there working.
And I remember, even as a five year old, going,
oh my god, it's freezing cold here.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
I don't have anything that intense off the top of
my mind. It has to have been at some point.
My freshman year, there was like a mini blizzard in Columbia, Missouri,
because they canceled finals as I was taking my finals,
so we were the last group and I had to
walk backwards across campus because the wind was so strong
getting back to my dorm.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
My fingers were completely numb. By the time we did
the pregame stuff in Green Bay in twenty eighteen, I.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Thought Danny was going to say the super Bowl. It
was in Dallas, right, it wasn't that arctic cold.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Well I wasn't outside for that, but yes, I mean,
if you're talking, I guess in general, yeah, that was.
That was the freeze, which is I was just saying this.
It's so funny. I guess how different every place is.
Texas does not salt the roads or do any sort
of preparation. My junior year of high school, this would
have been fall of twenty ten. We had some snow.

(56:08):
Because Texas gets Dallas gets snow. It's not a lot,
maybe like a couple of inches. Once twice a year.
We got six inches on a Sunday. It was fully
melted by Tuesday. We did not have school for an
entire week because it took that long for the roads
to defrost and the buses couldn't drive.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
And with that we come full circle because, as we
mentioned earlier, Texas is the all out max legal speed
champion of the United States. They have freeways in Texas
that go up to eighty five miles per hour legal
speed limit.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
I think that's on West Texas. I think I drove
on those when I moved out here.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Good thing, I never drive that fast.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Here says other states Darren with an eighty mile per
hour max speed limit. In addition, in North Dakota was
just jumped on board South Dakota, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma,
and Wyoming. Those are the states that you can go
up to eighty miles.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
Per hour and at least legally good to know as for.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Whether it's when behavior in terms of your driving habits,
you can talk amongst yourselves. That'll do it for this
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