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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Late fifteen to ten touched up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Guys, Welcome into a week six edition of Chargers Weekly.
We are presented by splittero as always, joined by the
Voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Smith and our guy
Jalilade joins us this week. And Buddy, I figured we'd
start with Jalil because the last time you were on
this podcast, the Chargers were three and ohero look at
it to go to four and oh up in New
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Jersey and things have kind of gone sideways the last
two weeks.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, it happened fast too. And my coach would always
tell us, hey, listen, you can't let one team beat
you twice, right, And that loss in New York seemed
to be a little bit lingering, just and I say
a little bit, because the Chargers did start fast in
the first quarter, right, first half, They started fast, jumped
out to a ten and oh start, and it just
seemed like usually in the first three games, if there
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was any kind of adversity, right, they were able.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
To manage it. They were able to get over that hump.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And obviously with the injuries and fumbles and turning the
ball over in the red zone, that is the secret success. Sorry,
that's the secret formula to losing. And we've seen that happen.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I think that's that's the key there, jalil Is.
You've got back to back weeks where this team has
not looked like a gym harball coach team, just the
you know, and you can certainly speak to what we
all can, right just how much little things matter. And
you're seeing, you know, back to back plays where penalties
take second and nineteen and a second and twenty eight
converted for a third, you know, for a first down
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that gets you out from inside your own ten yard
line off the board. You've got a punt return touchdown
taken off the board by penalties, and that's just stuff
that can be cleaned up and shouldn't happen and hasn't happened,
you know, for a harball coach team. I don't think
I ever thought i'd see the day where, you know,
in the span of seven days, you got twenty four
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penalties and one hundred and ninety two penalty yards and
that's and I think that's sort of just my big
takeaway is this team, you know, will win games, not can,
but will win games when they don't give the opponent
easy outs, and that's what they gave the Giants with
two you know, first and goals from inside the five
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on interception returns, and what they gave the Commanders with,
you know, a fumble, a punt return touchdown, taking off
the board, and that third and sixteen after the fumble
that would have just gotten the ball right back in
their hands, you know, still up ten to seven or
up ten to nothing with an opportunity to go into
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the half thirteen or seventeen nothing, you know. So it's
just those sort of things that they can be cleaned
up and just just have to be cleaned up, but
they just seem a little more impactful because it's now
happening back to back weeks.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's one thing to have all these injuries. We'll get
into the injuries, but the injuries over the last two
weeks shouldn't have mattered, right, Twenty four penalties, four turnovers
you point to the I think that the game was
lost at the beginning of the second half. Money the
second and nineteen and then second and twenty eight where
they're converted and just the air comes out of the
team when you convert those, and you have to go
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back ten more yards. The Quentin Johnson fumble was probably
the turning point in the game because you go up
seventeen or at least thirteen to nothing at that point.
But even after the Quinton fumble, it was third and
sixteen for Jayden Daniels, right, and you know it's secondary, Jalil,
take me through third and sixteen as as a member
of the secondary, and just how you can't you can't
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allow that to be converted.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, third and sixteen.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You're obviously in dime, right, so you you have all
dbs on the field in the secondary other than one
linebacker in the middle, and you're just playing at the sticks.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Right.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You're saying, we're going to protect the deep ball, We're
gonna make sure that they check everything down, everything goes short,
and then we're going to rally and tackle and get
off the field, right, And that obviously didn't happen. And
there's a lot of times teams like to attack the
center of the field and third and long right, they
like to run dagger. It's a concept where it's a
two by two or three by one, but one guy's
clearing out the defense.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Then you have the deep.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Do you have the deep dig that comes in behind
it right around fifteen seventeen yards, and that's how they're
attacking us. And when you look at it, money, you
made a good point, and you're talking about turnovers. But
then you look at it and you say, okay, well
the defense as well. They're taking the ball away, but
we're not taking it away enough, right, And then we're
not stopping the run. And when you can't stop the run,
then the offensive playbook is at your disposal, right. And
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I think that's what you've seen last week on Sunday,
is that they didn't have an answer form. And when
you don't have an answer form, that offensive coordinator he
can close his eyes and call a play. But yeah,
third and sixteen an absolutely protect the sticks, nothing over
your head, play, drop zone defense, make them throw the
ball short, Raley, tackle and get off the field.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, And that particular play, I'm looking at it right
now because I just was watching it the other day
and I want to make Charle's right. I mean, you
got Saint Juice lined up eleven yards. I mean it's
eleven yards and it's just a it's an easy dcut
and he's nowhere in position to defend that pass. You know, now,
Jesse ran, you know, a corner blitz with Dante off
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that corner that got picked up nicely. But I think
that was looked like, yeah, I was by the right
tackle who just kind of kicked out as the defense
you know, was able to sink out. But it's just
kind of one of those things where to me, that's
just stuff that can be cleaned up. It's like, man,
you it's third and sixteen. I get it, man, you're
trying to play sticks, but at some point Benjamin's got
to know where the stick is. And I mean the
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separation is I'm kind of got my fingers on my
other computer here. It's six yards. I mean it's six
yards when he's making that in cut. And I think
it's just sort of little things like that that we're
not used to seeing from this team. They're typically so
buttoned up and to your point, Chris, with injuries, I
think a lot of that has to do with you know,
this is a team that gets home with four. Man
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that got home with four repeatedly in those first three games,
and I think that's why. And I know we're going
to get into the trade for oh Way, but I
think that's kind of what the problem is is you
got two le out there and very little else and
so you've got an opportunity for Jaden just I mean,
he's standing I'm looking at it. He's standing in the
clean pocket like nothing's going on, and he's got all
day to kind of, you know, figure out which one
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of these three four receivers he wants to he wants
to throw this too, And that makes it awfully tough
on the defensive.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Back, no questions, go ahead, I want to harp on
that too, just quickly and you can take it. But
as a defensive back, right, we always say that the
Russian cover works together and you hit it on the
head getting home with four. But first all, you can
only cover for so long in his league, right, it's spacing,
it's timing right, and we're depending on the rush to
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get there, just like the rushers depending on us to
stay sticky and coverage. So if he's sitting back there,
patting the ball, patting the ball, patting the ball, he's
going to find the soft zone in the defense, right.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And and that's the prime example of what happened on
that play.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Julil, Let's just get into this trade real quick. I
mean you played with a low heat right for a
season or yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
He came.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I was with him his rookie year with him a rookie.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, his rookie listen, Alohi has been the concept of
pro He's been an awesome charger. It's it's rare to
see player for player trades in the NFL, especially the
kind of the middle of the year. But it was
the one position group safety Julil where you actually had
some guys. Right, Tony's playing at a pretty high level,
Elijah's back, r J. Mickens may get an opportunity to
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get more snaps, and of course you have Derwin and
to bring it to Da Feoway, somebody who you could
put on the other side of Touley. And then also
when Khalil comes back, I think that's what we're missing,
and you kind.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Of alluded to him.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You're like, when Joey was on the field and you
had Joey, Khalil, and Tooley, you kind of had that
three headed attack and right now it's just Tooley.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, and they're sliding the protection to Tooley.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You talked about him when he is Toully and really
other than our when you run defense, works out right,
run defense inside and tierror style. But other than Tuley, like,
who's really applying that pressure? And you hit it on
the head as well, Chris, like you had a two
headed monster and Joey and Khalil and they can't slide
the protection to either one of them. You got to
play it straight up and then a lot of times
those guys were getting one on ones. But just to
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touch on Alohi, man true professional, came in as a
young guy smart.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I always would say no disrespect to any of the
safeties that are in that room.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
But Alohi was a total safety, right he commanded respect,
He got guys lined up. He were on me a
little bit of Eric Weddle in that way of being
a very very smart player, get guys lined up before
the snap, after post snap. And he was the jail
to that secondary. But like you said, Duran, obviously a
man must boys out there. T Jeff is playing at
thirty three years old, lights out. And then you had
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Elijah and you look at the money that they paid
Elijah Molden, you knew that one day this was gonna come.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
You have three safeties making north to what five million
dollars between a Lohi and Elijah right, So at the
end of the day, it's still a business. They felt
like they had a lot of equity still with Alohi
and felt that they can get something good for them,
which they did, And I wish a little. He's nothing
but the best in Baltimore. Man, good friend of mine,
good former teammate of mine, and he'll do he'll do
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good things.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean it's you know, one of my favorites,
one of the only guy on the team I could
talk surfing with, you know. So I'm pretty bummed man, truly.
I was just you know, when we were in Brazil,
I was showing them all my waves and getting all
geeked up with him and so h one of my
favorite dudes.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Man, just a great guy.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And I think if you're ever out of training camp,
you see how much the fans love him because he
would always roll over there and hang out with the fans,
the kids just in Look, you're talking about Navy and
Notre Dame, right, you know, you're you're a guy that
ends up going to those two universities. Nothing against you
know where you go to college, but you know the
kind of character that you're talking about a guy that's
going to go all the way from you know, Kohuku
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High School in Hawaii to freaking Annapolis. That kind of
speaks to the character of that individual and just what
a great person he was. I wish him nothing, you know,
but the absolute best, and I hope you know, look,
Kyle Hamilton's very similar to Derwin. So I think that's
kind of how Baltimore looked at it. You see how
decimated they are defensive side of the ball. It's crazy
what they're going through. And so I think they probably
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they tried to get that deal done with Oway in
the offseason. They couldn't find that right number. I'm guessing
they probably offered him something like the Carl Loft this
deal that got done as well, and maybe he wanted
a little more coming off an eleven sax season, And
so you know, you figure it out. And I think
for the Chargers on the other side of it, you
know that look, they need this, they and you said it,
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you know, you scratch the surface of it, Julia, like,
they have not been able to set the edge opposite
tu Lee since essentially since Khalil went down. A boyd
B does a pretty good job but they're essentially playing
him out of position. They want him to be, you know,
an upfield defensive tackle and they're playing him at edge
because it's just not happening. And that's what you're looking
at with Krosskey Merritt and JK. Dobbins and Scataboo getting
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to that opposite side of Tuley and just gashing these
guys for first downs. And so I think it's a
The juice that Oway can bring is a pass rusher.
I think he's got thirteen pressures right now. He had
eleven sacks last year. He's a guy that's going to
get you probably north of twenty five thirty pushing forty pressures,
you know, and that's that's what this team needs. And
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I think there's a long term to that as well.
Like you said, Julia, how much money you know Aloie
was making. The fact you just paid Elijah, I would assume,
and I know they don't want to hear me say this,
and I'm you know, Derwin's going to be the highest
paid safety in the league this coming off season because
his deal's coming up. And so I think you look
at it as Okay, well, this is where Williamson and Mickens,
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you know, start to make that, you know, a viable
safety room with Elijah and Derwin and Tony now carrying
sort of the water. But you know, you mentioned Mickens.
I think Williamson is someone that we've kind of forgotten
about and how good he looked in the you know,
in the preseason, and just how versatile he is that
he can play high, he can play in the box.
He's He's someone that I'd like to see get more
than some special teams reps out there, because I thought
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he looked pretty good in the spot duty he had
last year and certainly in the preseason. So you know, hopefully,
like you said that, you got to be able to
connect you know, the Russian cover and I'm hoping that
old way opposite tu Lee can can give us a
little bit of.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
That, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
The Krossky merrit first touchdown, that was like the prime
example of of kind of what you're talking about with
with set in the edge and you know, he ran
wild and that was that was kind of concerning to
see the defense and again this was this was one
or two plays guys that could have liked. The lad
punt return for a touchdown was a complete momentum killer.
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I mean, and there were there were several throughout the
course of the game. The interception at the end that
was tipped at sanyrso caught at the goal line. It
was a twenty seven to ten game. But like the
Chargers were, they were, they had the big lead, and
they were in it until like the middle of the
fourth quarter and then the Deebo Samuel touchdown just salting
the wound. But you know, I want to separate the
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injuries from the execution because you know, you mentioned like
Baltimore money like they are. They're completely decimated. I think
like ten starters are out, and you see this around
the NFL everybody. It's a game of attrition and you're
just trying to survive, get guys back, and find ways
to win when you have as many guys down, key
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guys down, Jalil Joe Alt being number one, and we
saw that across the offensive line on Sunday. You can't
have the mistakes, you can't have the penalties, and you
certainly can't have the turnovers to win football games. And
there really is no silver lining to losing these games.
I guess they're they're NFC opponents they're NFC opponents. So
if you turn around and beat Miami, you're four and
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two and four and oh in the AFC. I guess
you'll take that and start anew But it's been a
difficult two weeks against two teams you frankly should have
beaten had you not beaten yourself.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
And I mean, like, listen, there're three and two, and
I know those teams in this NFL that would give
a finger to have only two losses.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Right, It's just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
And like you said, these last two games that the
Chargers have lost have been very attainable.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
They should have won, right, and you got to give
credit will credit.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Dude, this is the NFL and you can't go out
there on Sundays just think you're going to roll the
ball out and because you're the Los Angeles Chargers, things
are going to go your way. And it was so
much of there was so many up and down situations
in this game to where I just felt like, hey, listen,
they're gonna have their breakthrough.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They've done it all year.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
They're resilient, they're a fourth quarter team, right, they're gonna
But every time there was a big play. Every time
there was a something that changed momentum and brought it
back to the Chargers way, there was a flag, right,
there was a penalty.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
So listen, when you beat yourself and you.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Turn the ball over at the rate that we've turned
the ball over, and Justin Herbert is not a quarterback
that's known to turn the ball over in the last
two weeks, right, two plus interceptions in each game, and.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
You can't win like that.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
It's just is what it is, no matter how good
you are, and especially when you're decimated at the offensive line,
and just as a team as a whole. And then
another thing I would say is with the secondary. The
secondary is going to be the secondary. But I would
say that they got gas for over one hundred yards, right,
lot of times that the Chargers like to play two safeties,
which is a light box, and they're able to defend
the run. But at some time, at some point, you
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have to make an adjustment, Right, you got to load
the box. We're not stopping the run. We can't keep
the shot on the defense. We got to bank on
them trying to throw a deep ball and going incomplete.
It's a lower percentage throw. We're not stopping the run.
So I know Jesse Minner and that secondary coach secondary,
excuse me, that defensive coaching staff will make the adjustments
that they need to, and I think they'll do it
this week.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Look, I think to me, it's you said it, Julio.
You know, they're they're they're operating with light boxes. And
every time I see it roll out there these last
three weeks. Now, you know, really since the Bronco game,
I'm like, I don't it's just not working. You know,
since Khalil's gone down. You've got two tackles, you got
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two lead and then your opposite edge. You know, when
it's Caleb Murphy, it's just too light and and these
these linemen are getting up into the linebackers and it's
you know, and and so to me, like when they
first went you know, when I think about that Kansas
City game, I'm thinking about Khalil and Tooley and then
you've got you know, at that point, you had Tito
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Tart and Hand. I mean you had that, you know,
you kind of you had that odd front where you've
got those three tackles and you've got your two edges
in Khalil in tu Ley and and it was a
bear to deal with, man. And yeah, you know, Patrick
was getting them on some scrambles, but outside of that,
but Checko had nothing going. And then you think about
the Raider game and how they were in the same deal,
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you know, and it was that those three tackles, the
two edges, and it was working. And then all of
a sudden we started seeing kind of lot more of
these lighter boxes two tackles, and you know, and and
and like you said, they're running essentially running dime out there,
and it's just I don't think it's working, especially with
Caleb Murphy, you know, on that you know that that
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first crosskey Merrit run to that, you know, the left
edge of the line, the offensive line is just the
Murphy had no chance. He just got washed out. He
was he was laid at the guard's pulling and he's
he's dusted, man. And you know, and I think the
other thing too is I just would love, you know,
in this Miami game, because look, a chance got world
class speed, man, he has got world class speed. And
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so you know, look, the Panthers did a great job
of containing him, and they did a great job of
running the ball, and so you know, it's the old
adage of run the ball, stop the run. That's what
the Panthers did to get that win last week. But
you know, you to me like, that's that's where always
is gonna come in this week. And I think that's
where you know, I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit
more of of all three tackles, the two edges, and some.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Single a little bit of single high. You gotta sprinkle
it in expressly.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Didn't mean to cut you off money, but especially since
Tyreek's out right and you have Wada, who's really that burner?
If Tyreek's there, I get it you're saying, hey, let's
keep this, let's keep the coverage on this secondary.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
But you got to gamble him. But you got to
come out he because Miami's gonna try to run the ball.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
They just see Washington, did They're gonna copy the exact
same game plan right.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
With New York.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna run the ball. So you
come out hey, yeah, you got to show you his
defense are too high. But on first and second down
you gotta sprinkle in, show too high creep. Then you
keep the safety down in the box and now you
have an eight man box, and now you're defending the run,
and then you can start pressuring Tua, who we all
know is scared of contact, right rightfully, So so now
you start pressuring Toua, he's starting to see goals and
then you can probably get that pressure and that pressure similars.
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That's that pressure, sim to make him look like the
pressure's coming. Then back out and now you can start
playing games with him. But the first and foremost, the
run has to be stopped.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
On Sunday, yeah, well, you know when we get into Miami,
Miami ran the ball fourteen times for nineteen yards against
Carolina one point four pop. Like you said, it's it's
week to week though, with the game plan, they're gonna
see what what Washington was able to accomplish. And you know,
I guess we should give Anthony Lins some props that
running game. Anthony Linda's how to put together a running game,
and he certainly did that with with Ton Soul and
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across that offensive line with.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
With Bill Krosskey Merritt.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know money you mentioned stop the run and uh
and run the football. Uh, it's gonna be tougher to
run the football without Amri and Hampton was probably perhaps
the biggest blow that came out of this game is
he's on ir to return, so at least missed the
next four games at least. So Yeah, so it's it's
next man up with with Kimanity Videll and Hassan Haskins.
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I imagine I would imagine that maybe Ivydell would probably
get a little bit more run than Haskins because Haskins
has special teams duties and I don't know what to
expect from the running game, especially with the offensive line,
which we haven't really gotten into. Justin Herbert just hasn't
had time to really execute, and uh, it's been it's
been tough to see. You couple that with the procedural
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penalties and something needs to change on Sunday. And I
think at the very least, you just have to clean
up the mistakes.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Ji Will.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, and you said it's expect Justin to throw the
ball forty times this game.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
I know, Money, I know you want them to run
the ball. They're going to try to stablish to run.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
But that's that's scary to meet. Jillill.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I mean, you've got Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb and
this iss hear me.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Out, that's up to Kimani, right, It's up to Kimani
in Hassan.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But when I say forty times, it's not it's not
five step drop back.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
When I say forty times, it's quick screens. Right, it's
which is an extended.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Play of a run.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Right, It's it's quick screens, it's tunnel screens, it's it's
half back screens, it's quick game.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Something to get the ball out of his hands quick, right.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I'm not saying drop back forty times and we're waiting
for two deep balls in a post comer live. No,
we got to use that as an extension of the
run game because of our running backs being injured, because
of our offensive line being injured, and they have to
do that in some way, shape or form to slow
down that pass us.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean it's look it's again, it's not easy, man.
You got like I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
What we got.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
We got Bradley with four sacks, Jalen's got one and
eighteen pressures, sixteen hurries. Herbert's not going to make it
to week ten if this holds up. Like he's just
a I know he's big and he's a horse, but
you just get this cannot continue, you know, And I mean,
I don't know what it's going to look like. On Sunday,
I was I'll be honest, I thought I thought that
it was probably going to be sol your left tackle,
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Trey right tackle, just based on kind of what we
saw from from Deculus against the Giants when he had
to come in there. And and then I was like, okay,
well maybe it was just like a you know, a
solid week, he had a full week, kind of get
settled in, and then you go back.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
And watch and it's just tough. You know, it's really tough.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And and Austin, you know, he keeps losing inside and
you just you cannot lose inside as a left tackle.
That is the only thing you can't do. You know,
you get beat. You gotta get.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Beat wide and repletely.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
That rush was just in his lap and and Justin
you can't have a third week in a row where
he's taking those kind of hits and and it's just
it's it's untenable. And so and they know that it's
not like I'm you know, breaking news or saying anything
that's out of line. I know this is exactly what
they're talking about. They can get Will Disley back, that's
going to help. I thought you watched some of those
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Tucker Fitz snaps and he's blocking his tail off. He's
still doing a great job out there.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I know that. You know, people just have to like shove.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Aside the Nahem Hines punt, you know, the muffed punts.
Just put those out. He's a good back man, He's
a really good back. He's really good in pass pro.
He's got explosion and top end speed. He's tough as
nails between the tackles. I assume he's gonna be elevated.
I cannot imagine they're going to go into this game
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with two backs and not have him. So it's you know,
to me, I look at it like this. You have
you have Naji, and you have Amari and Kaman. He's
on the practice squad, Hassan is active. You don't get
any carries. Naji goes down a son, still doesn't get
any carries, And to me, that just kind of signals
where their thought is of where his value is. Is
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that core four guy on the special teams. It's been
a little bit off this year with all the guys
that left and what they're trying to get right on
that side of things. So I'm anxious. I know what
you mean with like the forty dropbacks saying you're going
to get.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Is cominding going to run the ball twenty five times?
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean I think with that that's where I bring
Hot Miller Hines in And like I said, I know
people are like, come on, man, guy would have got
picked up by now and stuff. But I've seen it,
and I saw it in the preseason you played, so
you know, like he's a he is a he's a
legitimate running back.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He's someone who can who can carry the load. And
I think if you can go you know, twelve twelve five,
you know, and try to balance this thing or let's
just say like ten ten five, balance this thing out
thirty passes to twenty five runs. Like I just saw
Washington and New York team that were like give us
the play action, man, we ain't buying it. And you
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saw what happened, you know, and that's when o'marian was
getting those runs off and was really starting to get
that run game goes. They're not buying it. They're like,
we ain't buying the play action. And it's like, well,
you got to make them or else they're going to
continue to pin their ears back and come after and
continue to hit Herbert.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Guys, what about just justin Herbert design runs, maybe more
involved in the running game, because, like Listen, he's probably
safer running the football than just being a statue back
there getting hit. Like you saw that forty one yard
run to set it off and really kind of get
the momentum going, like I don't know if it's zone
read to your point about extended runs, Julio, Like last thing,
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it's wherelat McConaughey comes in. You know, get the ball
out of your hand quickly. You have the guys to
do it with Keenan and Ladd and maybe get creative with.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Queen's the screen guy too. He's a screen guy too.
He's a yeah guy.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
So you can get the ball in his hands and
let him run. Naim Hines is in Indy. He was
That's what we used him for, right, He was a
screen guy. He was a gadget guy. He can run
between the tackles. Remember when preseason Chris I was talking
about him when we were working with CBSLA and I said, Listen,
he's my top guy to make the fifty three, behind
Nause and Amaron Right, and when he was released, I
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was kind of surprised. Obviously, you know, those fumbles didn't
help him throughout the preseason. But he's a return specialist,
kick return, proNT return and then when he gets in
that back for the money touched on it. He's a
good and pass protection and he's a really good asset
in the screen game and the extension of the run.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, you mentioned Will Disley too, like not having Will Disley.
You look, I was looking at the inactives like, all right,
beckdens up, Disley's not.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Guess you'll take one out of two.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
But I think that his his lack of presence has
certainly been felt the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I mean, look when you know, when when Austin
goes I mean when Tray goes down in the middle
of the game, and now you're in and look, I
just to me, I think Jamari's a he's he's he's
a tackle. It's just it's it seems like it's just
a little too quick for him as a guard. It's
he looks a lot better as a tackle than he
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does a guard. And so I think, you know, if
if I were to project, and you know, I don't
know what was going on with Mackay, but it's just
it's so hard to do that in the middle of
a game. You know, he's in, he's out, now he's out,
and Jamari's kicking from guard to tackle on this snap
and now he's back at guard on this snap up
and Trays got back to back penalties that are crushing.
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It's it just it was a lot, man, it was
a lot to put on that unit, you know, the
way that that game was shaken out. And so I
don't know what the you know, kind of what the
solution is because you know, you keep two tight ends
and you got to you're you're running twenty two and
there's not a lot of guys out there on the route,
you know, and that's going to be awful lot of
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people coming after you because there's not a lot of
threats on the outside. So I don't know what the
solution is. All I know is it's it it's really
hard to imagine it being able to look and they've
got to be better against the blitz just to have
opportunities like it feels like, you know, when that blitz
is coming. There's one answer to the test, and when
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it's not there, you're stewed. And so I just I
feel like there's some of that that's got to be
adjusted as well, because to me, when you're the most
blitz quarterback in the league, you've got to have a
great blitz plan because they're coming and they're going to
continue to come. And when you go back and you
watch those snaps, it's like, right, where's the answers to
the test? I'm not seeing any. And that's why Herbert's
taking these hits because there's just there's nothing for him
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to do. There's no work for him to go. So
I think I thought coach Harbaugh put it best, you know,
when he was getting peppered by Popper about Bradley Boseman.
That's a hell of a tongue twister peppered by Popper
on Bradley Boseman when he said there's a lot of
fingerprints on this thing, and he said players coaches, And
I think that's accurate. I think you can go across
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that whole line. I think you can talk about defense.
I think you can absolutely talk about coaching, and I'm
sure they're all you know, back at it, going into
Miami against a one and four team to try to
avoid three consecutive losses before you get back to back
games at home with the advantages of having home field
and getting a home Thursday and night football game, you know,
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which is a decided advantage against an opponent.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, by any means necessary, you have to get a
win against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
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Speaker 2 (28:23):
Slash Chargers.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Well, guys, you alluded to. The Miami Dolphins are one
in four. We're up seventeen to nothing on the Carolina
Panthers only to lose in Carolina. They're a railing football team. Jalil,
you're a Florida guy, you know it's going to be hot.
Playing down there is never easy. Where do you start
if you're the Chargers in terms of turning your season
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around quickly?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Well, first of all, these guys need to start hydrating,
like yesterday, right, going down there on a five and
a half hour trip and then playing in those conditions.
I remember we've played down there maybe three to two
three times, man, And it's tough, right, It's gonna be
a physical battle just because of the weather. But hey, listen,
you got to be able to play in all conditions.
But like you said, they got to get back to
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playing charge of ball. And what's that being on one accord.
You talked about the blitches, money, you talked about you know, coaches,
and it all is they're all in this together, and
you look at the coaches. They got to look at
the film. Players got to look at the film. They
got to what looks are they giving us from their
blitches And if we get those on Sunday, what's our
hot route, who's hot? Who's looking right now? Who we
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going to with the ball? If that pressure simulate that
they'll show it and then they bring it right. So
just getting on one accord on the offensive side of
the ball. Like I said, I think getting the ball
out of Justin's hands, quick screens, tunnel screens, half back screens,
anything to be an extension of the run. Because listen,
if you can get the ball out of his hands
and you get three to four pop three to four
yards on first down, your you know your offensive coordinator,
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he can call plays that he needs.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
It's manageable. Second down, right.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
On special teams, clean up the penalties, and then on defense, Listen,
you got to stop the run. That's number one for Sunday.
They have to stop the run. I know they're gonna start.
They're gonna play their traditional defense with the two shell,
and we talked about it, but Jesse can't be too stubborn.
If that run starts to leak, he has to drop
an extra safety in the box. I'm thinking more so
Tony Jefferson, who is a box safety who's physical against
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the run, who can read pools, he can read guards,
and he's really good at attacking the ball downhill. You
got to get the guys down there in the box.
You can still run cover three. You can still play
man with with with the eight man box. So that's
the biggest thing. And I think that's the three takeaways
on all three phases they need to do going into Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, I look, I think you're
I think you're on a chili ola. To me, it's
you know, there's you make a trade, and to me,
that trade makes the statement right like and it's we've
got to be better stop in the run and we've
got to find somebody besides to Lee to get to
the pass, you know. And and look it was working, right,
I mean, it was working in that first quarter and
a half against Washington. They're running the hell out of
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the ball, They're picking up the blitz. You know that
there was a crosser. I want to say it was
to Q. I think it was to Q when Tucker
Fisk just absolutely cleaned out Durrance Armstrong. I mean, it's
a beautiful play, beautiful block. It's just kind of like
more of that, like you could. I have faith they
can do it. It's just a matter of doing it.
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Like this team it feels like has has just sort
of had that issue of slamming the door shut. You know,
it's and and slamming the door shut does not have
to be In the fourth quarter on a Justin Herbert
scramble along the right sideline in Brazil, slamming the door shut.
Can be in the second quarter, up ten to nothing,
driving for a touchdown when Washington's got nothing going, absolutely
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nothing going, and you put them in a seventeen nothing
hole and now they can't run. Now you got one
minute left in the first half and you're down three scores,
and that completely alters your game plan and looks breaks
don't go your way. I know everybody's complaining, and I
get it, man, and they're right to complain the fact
that Q took a huge crown of the helmet that
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I mean, that's a flag absolutely on that first and goal,
Keenan gets his jersey grabbed and it pulls him back
enough where that passes outside of his fingertips for a touchdown.
Like that, stuff happens, but you know, teams overcome it
and they're able to dig out of it. You just
can't have it happen fourteen times a game.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You can have it happened twice or three times. Can't
have it ten to fifteen times a game.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Nakwon Jones joined US last week. He was a surprise
and active.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
To us blown away by that.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yes, with DeShawn Hands Andrew, I would imagine Nakwon would
be up regardless uh this upcoming Sunday. But just the
defensive line in terms of what you've seen Jalio with
that rotation of Caldwell and Tart and what's been maybe
the biggest difference from week one to what we saw
in Week five.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
I think they've been playing really good football.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
It's it happens, right, some teams game plan for you
and you have a worse Sunday than you've had the
previous weeks. I can't really pinpoint and say that they've
done anything different.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I wouldn't imagine they've done anything different watching them, They've
been playing physical. I'm telling you, listen, when you're playing
in a light box. I keep going back to it.
If these guys don't have a perfect shock and shed
and get off the block and create a new line
of scrimmage and they get reached just a little bit.
Those guards are up on the linebackers right now and
they're overtaken off the double right, So they have to
play almost dang near perfect football to stop the run.
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And it's hard to do that weekend and week out.
It's week five of the seasons. Teams are scouting them.
They know how, they know how, what system they're running,
they know what defense were running. And I think the
interior has done a good job for the charges this year.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
I really have.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I can't really pinpoint what the difference is. I will
say that, listen, they have to continue to be aggressive.
They got to continue to set a new line of scrimmage.
Maybe stunt stunting them right, showing them here at the
snap of the ball they're going here, Maybe slanting them,
giving them something to get the offensive line off tilt,
because once they get doubled, once they get reached, sorry,
once they get reached and they climb to that second level.
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With that not having that extra defender, it's canceled Christmas.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, just to your point, Julia, those linebackers, I think,
you know, and it sounds like DP is going to
be back this week. You know Dan, that's gonna be
so Dan plays so different when Paaraman's out there with them,
Like with it just feels like these last two weeks
it's almost been too much react. It's too much and
it's like just get your fit man, get in there
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and get your fit and trust that the people behind
you if, if somehow they find that next gap over
whatever it is, that they're going to make the play.
I just feel like they're the linebackers are waiting too much,
and like you said, when you're playing in that light box,
those those guards are getting out to the linebackers. It
feels like on every play and it's like I would
just rather have the Denzel you know, the Denzel Paaraman approach.
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Just I'm coming, man, I am coming, and this is
my fit and that's where I'm going, and I trust
that my guy is going to have the other gap
and we're gonna that's how we're gonna play.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
This and money, like we talked about, Russian cover, work together.
Defensive line and linebackers work together because if they fit,
then the double team can't stay on the nose guards long.
They can't stay on the three tech as long. They
got to come off and they gotta block the linebacker. Now,
the defensive line hasn't one on one to shock and
shed and make a play, right, So if the linebacker's
sitting there popping their feet waiting to see where the
reed is waiting to see where I'm going with my gap.
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Now the offensive line is just watching. If they're not
coming downhill, they're gonna stay on until their buddy can
take them over and then they'll climb.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
But when the linebackers are playing aggressive downhill, now you're
forcing them to get off the block. Right now, Now
you're giving the d line a true one on one
where they can go beat their man.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, it's just that I think it's very appropriate.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
The Denzel is coming back in Miami, right a guy,
Miami guy? Yeah, guy, So we need him, Bunny, you
need him on Sundays.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I just feel like Damn plays different with him. You know, Look,
Troy Die, he plays great, he's athletic, he's awesome. Sidelined
to sideline, it just feels like when Denzel's out there
with Dayon, there's just like a little bit more you know,
for lack of a better term, it's a little more
sand in the ass.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
You know, I call it crash bandicoot.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
There you go, exa like that's and I feel like
that's kind of what's been missing, you know in these
last couple of weeks. Is I mean, I think everybody
knows obviously what happens when a Joe alt Rashaun Slater,
Khalil Matt go. But I don't think they've recognized like
what it means to not have Denzel Paramoun out there
and the physicality you know that he brings at that position,
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especially against the run. So I'm excited about his return.
I'm excited about getting no way on that edge, you know,
because look, that's you can't play and you can't play
edge in Baltimore without being able to set the edge.
You just can't. They won't let you. And so to me,
like I desperately they need the pass rush. Don't get
me wrong, they absolutely need it. But I think that's
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one of the things is that that Khalil has brought
and that Bud brings. Bud it's a good edge center.
He's not gonna give you any pass rush anymore. It
feels like that's sort of you know that that's going
to have to be a cover coverage sack these days
with with Bud. But he sets the hell out of
the edge, and I think to get to get another
guy in there, you can almost sort of get back
to what that rotation looked like before.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, Uh, this is a this is a game where
I think your leaders have to get you there, man,
Like like justin Derwin, it's it's week six and it's
it's kind of weird to say it's like.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I don't I don't want to say it's desperation.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
But like when when you lose the way you do
the last two weeks and you have an opponent that
is one in four, you're going to their place, like
it's this, this can flip your season. This gets you
to four and two. The Chiefs play the Lions, the Raiders.
We know what the Raiders are.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
At this point.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
The Broncos are coming on and they play the Jets
in London, so they're on your heels. Man, this is
a game you just you can't lose. Julia, take me
as out of locker room. When when you're playing a
team that you absolutely should be on the road.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
It's really you kind of have to lock in a
little bit more.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Because we talked about it previously before they went to
the Giants, it's like, naturally, you're human. You're a human being, right,
so you're, oh, they're one and four. We don't have
to prepare as harder. We don't have to, you know,
spend a little bit more time on film, right, or
take care.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Of my body a little bit extually this week. We
know it's the NFL, but you're still a human. They're
one and four, they're struggling, they have injuries.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So in the locker room, if I'm the leader, I'm saying, listen,
we got to prepare like this is our super Bowl.
It's not the it's not the all, it's not the
end all be all, but we have to prepare like
it's your super Bowl. We gotta take care of our body.
It's gonna be hot, it's gonna be humid. Right, we
have a long trip. Make sure when you're on that
trip you take you're getting extra films. Go sit by
offensive line, Go sit together in the back of the plane.
Let's go over for thirty minutes before we take a nap,
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and let's go over these protections. Let's go over how
we're gonna look. What we're gonna do if we get
this look defensive backs, Listen, if we get this stack,
if we get these bunches, how do you like?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
This is a long flight. You know you're going out
there Friday.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
You got to do a little bit more than you
would do if you're just going on an hour flight,
or if you're playing at home, because listen, distractions can happen.
You can get low to sleep with. You know, we're
going out there on Friday. We're going to Miami. It's
a beautiful city and there's families coming to No, you
got to keep this thing the main thing, and it's
business first. It's going out there. It doesn't matter if
you win by the hair on your hair, but at
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inches of hair on your hair, you've got to get
a dub going back coming back to the West.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Coast, you don't want it's bad enough to get to it,
especially just kind of like I said, the way you're losing,
you know, feeling like you can win these like there's
I know that it ended up looking like a blowout
in that game, but you know, like I said, seventeen
nothing changes everything in that game and the way they
played through a court, like you could be five and zero,
have the Chiefs at two and three, you know, up
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three and a half games on them in the division
right now, and so I think it's getting back to
that mentality that super Bowl AFC West is ours. We're
three and zero in the division and just set the
tone for the rest of this month. There's still an
opportunity for them to have the exact same October as
they had September, and that's winning three or four games
and getting out of the second quarter at six and
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two and feeling pretty darn good about because like, here's
the thing. The back end of the schedule is hard, yes,
no question about it. But the back end of the schedule,
you're gonna have Joe Alt, You're gonna have a Mario Hampton,
you're gonna have Khalil Mack. Like so yeah, so you've
and that's why I think you trade for oh Way,
And that's why I think there's rumors about them trading
for some other guys, because I think they recognize that, like, hey,
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we've got to tread water here because we know we're
getting all these guys back, and we know how good
it looked when all of them were here. And so
to me, that's you know, I credit the spanos Is
for taking on eight million bucks in salary, you know,
and in O Way and I and I credit them
because I assume they're going to make another move and
take on some more salary. They had it available to them,
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and this team's plenty good enough, you know, and if
that means taking a back or it's just it's too
hard to find alignment, I think it's it's so hard
to find an alignment in the middle of the season.
It just sends such a bad message to your group
when you're taking protection away from your quarterback in the
middle of the season. So those are hard, But I
do think there's some other things they can maybe do
to help this group out until Khalil's ready and Joe
(41:18):
Waltz ready and Amarion Hampton's ready to get back out
there and make this team look like they did through
the first three weeks.
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was it was next on my list that you think
about the running back position, and I think Kimani and Hassan,
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they'll they'll show us Sunday. I think maybe what the
direction needs to be. But even with a Marion coming back,
like this was always supposed to be a Naji Harris
of Marion Hampton backfield. So considering the fact that Naji's
not coming back and a Marion is in a month,
like Jillian, would you trade for a back like you know,
like I throw out the name.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Like Breece Hall.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
But there's a lot of Breeze Hall type players out
there that maybe in a week or two, maybe out
of contention, that you can trade a pick for.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
She got to see how Sunday goes. They'll tell you
everything you need to know, all right. You'll you'll see
how the game plan goes. You'll see how these running
backs go out there and perform. And I'm pulling for
both of them obviously, but yeah, I'm gonna start looking.
I'm gonna start shoffling the deck and seeing what's out there,
because listen, you have to have a two headed monster,
especially the way the Chargers want to play offense, right,
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that's the DNA and that's what they built this roster
around with Nase and Marion thinking, listen, we have two
headed monsters, really, two rb ones in our backfield that
we can lean on for four quarters. Listen when Marion
comes back. It's just it's really unfortunate because you can
see that the kid. The game was slowing down for
the kid. You can see that he was getting in
his groove. He was running behind his pads. And when
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you take a when you get injured and you have
to get back in his football shape, you gotta, you know,
get your muscles back. Rader, you got to get your
mindset back. It's it's tough, especially for a rookie. But
I have no doubt that he has the right people
around him, the right leaders around him, that he'll be
fining he gets back. But I think you trade for
a veteran running back obviously you have to see how
Sunday goes, but for long term as well, especially if
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you want to run the offense that this offense is
designed to be.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
I think I think you're on the money with that one.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Chris, Yeah, And you know, I'm just pull it up
because I thought I was. Yeah, after they traded their fifth,
they've they've only got five picks in twenty twenty six,
you know, they they they're seventh through member went to
Tennessee for Elijah two years ago, and their fifth just
went to Baltimore. So I'm not sure what the Jets
would want for Breese Hall. I know Kamara is another
one that's been thrown out there because he's making twelve
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thirteen million bucks a year. Next year is the last
year of his deal, So you figure, okay, if Nagi
hits his incentive. If Nagi hits his incentives, he's making
nine million bucks this year, you're not taking on too
much more. He's an older guy in the he'll be
in the last year of his deal next year. It's
a chunk. You know, what's that going to cost you?
And I think that's what it comes down to. What
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kind of draftcap? Are you helping the Chiefs out?
Speaker 6 (44:34):
The Chiefs?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Are you helping the Saints out? Because they're way over
the cap. We know what their cap situation looks like.
Do they want to put an offensive lineman in that
deal that you can afford to take on as well?
You know, and I think that's kind of what you're
trying to line up. Right in the case of Oway,
you've got Khalil, who's flirted with retirement the last two offseasons. Well,
now you've got a former first round pick, a guy
that's had a double digit sack season who's coming up
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on an extension, and either he gets it for you,
or maybe he gets it from somebody else, And now
you got yourself a comp third or fourth to replace
the fifth that you lost. And I think in Breece Hall,
it's a very interesting case, Chris, because it's the same deal, right, ye, What,
Like let's say you trade your fourth for Breece or
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I don't know if it would take a third what,
but you'd either keep them and he's on an affordable
and there's your one two punch with he and Amarion
because he's on a rookie deal and you can afford
to do that. Or he signed somewhere else and you
pick up a fourth or a third, and like that's
those are the interesting trades because Breeze is going to
be a free agent, and so you can work that
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comp pic formula in same with the lowie.
Speaker 6 (45:41):
He'll be a free agent.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
This upcoming offseason, just like, oh wait will So it's
just kind of like one of those things where, yeah,
we were going to get a comp if we didn't
bring a lowie back because we got Mickens and we
got Elijah kind of thing.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
Sort of the same thing.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I think that's the way Joe Ortiz will approach this
is you'll probably see him trade for guys that are
on affordable DS, you know, for the next maybe year,
two years at the most, or someone that's going into
free agency where the pick he's got to give up
can be supplemented with a comp that he gets.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Back no doubt.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
You know, Coach Tarball even said when we were three
and oh Joe was making moves, we've lost the last
due Joe's still making moves. It's really not contingent on
win or loss record. He's always trying to improve the
roster at every turn. Guys, I think it's encouraging that
the Joe alt has not gone on, ir right.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I mean it's like we probably don't expect him to
play this week, but you know, younger guy.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I know it's a big guy, but like, you know,
it has to be encouraging that, you know, you may
be getting him back at some point, maybe this month.
Speaker 5 (46:43):
We'll see. We'll see, Chris, what it's is, this is.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
What the high ale this will be. He was gone
first quarter against the Giants.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
I ankle your minimum four. Yeah, ankle your minimum.
Speaker 6 (46:54):
Especially at offensive line.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yeah, because you got to plant that foot and you
got to anchor down. You're a minimum four with the
high ankle.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
So we'll see.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Obviously pulling for him to come back, but you don't
want to rush him back and then get set back
and then now he's out.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
For another three to four weeks as well.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
Right, So not to mention he's your franchise.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
I mean, he's you're you're you're talking about someone that's
you know, going to be in the conversation. Is the
best offensive line in football, and so you're not going
to mess around with that.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
It is that.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
But you make a great point, Chris, the IR situation, Well,
then why is any on IR, Like you know, immediately
Hampton Khalil, you know, all that sort of Denzel like,
when these guys are hurt to an extent, they know
they're not coming back within four weeks, they put them
on IR without hesitation. So it is interesting they chose
not to do that. We don't know what the injury is.
They do not they're not forthcoming with that sort of stuff.
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So maybe it's not a high ankle, you.
Speaker 6 (47:46):
Know, maybe it's maybe it's a mid ankle. Maybe it's
a mid ankle. Spring.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
We'll take anything to get Big Joe all back on
the field, will take, you know, the last thing for me, guys,
that just it's the interesting way that the schedule shakes out. Right,
If you're able to go down to Miami, get a
hard fall win, come back for and two, what do
you mention it? You have the Colts and then the
Vikings on a short week, an opportunity to at least
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have a Thursday night football game. But I don't think
any of us we'll get into this next week. I
don't think any of us expected the Colts to be
as high powered and as dominant as they've been. But
at least you get two home games after this one
of Miami.
Speaker 6 (48:27):
Joil.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yeah, you hit it on the head. When I looked
at this schedule, I kind of Colts. I know I'm
a former Colt, but I looked at hey, look that's
a check, right, that's a that's a dub but they've
come out. Daniel Jones has come out and researched himself
almost like a Baker Mayfield story. Right, new organization, new franchise,
new opportunity, a refreshing start, and he's.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
Playing top quarterback ball right now, right.
Speaker 4 (48:53):
And then they have Jonathan Taylor who's running the air
out the ball with that offensive line who's big and physical.
Speaking of offensive line, the defensive linez Aire Franklin at
the middle linebacker position, Glover.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
Stewart, Quit, he Pay, They're they're they're solid. Right.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
So that's that's why this game in Miami means that
just much more because you're coming home next Sunday against
a team who's cooking with hot grease.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know we've said it before.
I'm such a big fan of Shane's. He's such a
good play caller, good offensive coach. I did he's so
he's just he's so good man, he really is.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
He's the best.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
So uh not surprised that that he you know, very
similar to Kevin O'Connell, you know when when he got
Sam Darnold last year. You have these guys that are
just good at it. They're good they're former quarterbacks, they're
good coaches. They know how to dial it up, you know.
And you just think about what Shane did with justin
his rookie year, and then the vision he had with
Jalen Hurts and how to use him and guiding the
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Eagles to a super Bowl, and then what he was
able to do, you know, when he got to back
to Indianapolis with now with Daniel Jones, he's there. It's solid.
It's solid football. And I think that's what the Chargers are.
It's just solid football. You just gotta get back to it.
I you know, am I I think probably some Charger
fans are nervous now because they should have won each
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of these last two games. To me, it's like, no,
just the identity of this team is that they make
everything hard on the opponent, you know, or they force
the opponent to be patient. They keep everything in front
of them. There's no explosives, there's no mistackles, there's no penalties.
You got to play a clean game to get a
win against them, and they've just got away from that
these last two weeks. And so there's too much in
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there to say that that's not who they are. This
team that we've seen these last two weeks. And that's
just beyond the injuries. It's beyond all but the offensive
line is so yes, they can they can coach around that.
They can figure that out.
Speaker 6 (50:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
It's just to me, the biggest issue is stop with
the penalties. You can't have Tyler Conklin not know it's
his personnel group on a fourth and two and sprinting
out there and drying behind his back right when he's
coming out of his break and the ball's getting on him,
no doubt, you know, with a perfectly thrill like that's
the stuff that's you can't have Benjamin ben Saint Juice,
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you know, lined up incorrectly on the opening kickoff. It
just sets a bad tone like and that stuff that'll
be cleaned up. I assume it will. Like it's just
we haven't seen it. So why you know, I'll say
two game outlier, you know, and that the other what
twenty games are more of who they are? You know,
I'll go twenty to two. I think they're more of
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the twenty than the two that we've had recently. And
if they're able to do that, I feel pretty good
about how this thing can go.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Jalil last word, brother, Hey, hey, listen, next game is
the most important game because it's the next one.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
Listen, going down to Miami, bots have to get a w.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
Like you said, it's not NLB all, it's not the
Super Bowl, but it's the most important game because it's
the next one. And it's been a bad taste in
elsa gun or the bolt right now. I know, being
having two back to back losses. You know, it's not
a lot of smiles around that building. And there's nothing
worse than going into work, you know, with that bad energy.
So they got to get it turned around. They have
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the leaders, they got the players to do it, bar injury,
regardless of what's going on and the injury. Listen, you
talked about it too money just quick, hey, even with
all these injuries the last two weeks games right there,
it's right there.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
There, eighteen with two with eleven points coming on turnover
from inside your own five. Yeah, it's twenty one to eighteen,
Like that's that's that's the game you win.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Even playing sloppy ball, right, So you got to clean
up the penalties. Can't beat ourselves, especially the way when
you go the way. You got to pack your defense.
You got to pack your special teams. Cameron Dick will
be big this game for him as well.
Speaker 6 (52:43):
Yeah, don't turn the ball over.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Noless penalties, we got it.
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Just listen to the Chargers Weekly. They'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
Coaches.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Fell us go there you go the coach, right, I
feel special, I see exactly.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
You guys are the best, all right, Uh for for
money and jalil, I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.
We'll see you next week, hopefully for him too. M