May 9, 2025 • 54 mins
On this episode of Chargers Weekly, Bolts radio play-by-play announcer Matt “Money” Smith and host Chris Hayre recap the latest news involving LA and the entire NFL. In a wide-ranging fan Q&A, the hosts answer how new weapons including running back Omarion Hampton and wide receiver Tre Harris help quarterback Justin Herbert, what to expect in left tackle Rashawn Slater’s contract negotiations, and which undrafted free agents could push to make the 53-man roster.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Late fifteen ten touched up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's Up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of
Chargers Weekly. Chris Hayrey here with you, along with the
Voice of the Chargers Matt money Smith and Buddy. First,
I just want to say that Jesse Mitzer interview last
week was awesome. It was good man, next level football
conversation and just a really detailed breakdown of this incoming
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defensive draft class. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thanks man, Yeah, and a huge thanks to Josh and
Ricky and everyone over there for helping out. And that's
just the first. You know, we're gonna get coach Roman,
We're gonna get Coach Ficken, so we'll get all the
coordinators in there, and you know, they kind of laid
out our schedule with everything kind of ramping up and
getting rolling now Phase two and rookie camp and all
that that's happening this week. It's exciting we get you know,
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we have football back. It's back, and you certainly got
that cent at the facility and talking to coach and
bringing in the draft class and getting excited about getting
his hands on these guys and coaching them up. So
it certainly feels different. I felt like these last couple
of weeks, Chris, It's it's had a different feel the
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Chargers weekly, Like, yeah, we're we're kind of back in
this thing. Man, it's the off season, but it's not,
you know what I mean, Like it's not the off
season anymore. Like stuff's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Stuff's happening. Especially next week too. We have the schedule
release next week, and if I'm not mistaken, I think
Joe Ortiz is going to join the program next week too.
So you mentioned the coaches, we'll get the GM next
week to talk about some of these rookies and undrafted
free agents, and you know, obviously I think top of
mind this weekend is a rookie mini camp and I
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got a bunch of questions that we'll go through over
the next hour or so. But just kind of your
thoughts on rookie mini camp this upcoming weekend and maybe
a couple of guys that you're excited to see out
there on the grass.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I think just starts with the number one pick,
you know, with with Amarion and what he looks like,
because he's you know, there's guys that you want getting
off the bus first, and a Marion is one of
those guys. The way he's built, how well he moves
at that size, it's going to be fun to see
him out there. And you know, we remember we were
out on the field last year, Chris at training camp,
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and it was funny just to see jk and and
Gus standing next to each other and you're like, yeah,
they come in different sizes, and you know, Lamaran's in
the Gus mold, only he's got that explosive athleticism to
go with with that kind of size. So that's going
to be fun. I think kind of, you know, skill
position players are the ones that are always sort of
the most fun to look at just because of how
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different you can be built and still operate at a
high level. You know, Trey Harris and Keandrey Lambert Smith,
they're going to look totally different standing next to each other.
But at the same time, that's you know, just kind
of what's the And I'm sure there's questions, so I
don't want to jump the gun here, but you know,
what's the makeup of that wide receiver room? You know
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that'd be and yeah, it's exciting. I think the undrafted
free agents, you know, we've talked about him before, but
Steve Oclott seeing him get out there, you know, having
an actual fullback, being a team that wants to bring
in a full back and get a look at that
is going to be great as well.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We have a UDFA question in our mail bag today too,
but let's just get right into him first. One is
from Noami Money. Georgie said on the Up and Adams
Show that they are still looking to add to all
position groups. What is one position group that you both
think is not obvious to us fans that needs more
at tension, more additions rather, who would you like to
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see added to the group? I'll start with you, man,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I think just kind of trying to build out
the fifty three and thinking about how many backs, wide receivers,
tight ends O line, and I feel like those are
all full. You know, like we're going to be talking
about guys that you wouldn't think around the bubble that
are probably on the bubble in all and each of
those groups. I know a lot of people are thinking
about the lack of addressing the interior offensive line, but man,
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they got a lot of guys there, you know, I mean,
you're talking about the guys they signed in James brought
back Bozeman Zion Trey played guard last year, like, so
they're pretty well covered there. They brought in back in
So like that's one that I think people would think
is the obvious answer. I just pulled up the r lads. Like,
to me, it's probably Corner. I think Corner would be
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the one if there's a just you know, I think
because to me, that's based on the deals they signed,
right the deal that they signed for Dante Jackson, for
Benjamin Saint just and then you know they draft those
guys at the back end and Mickens and try Bridges,
but those are special teams guys. You know, that's that's
kind of where they're going to be. So that might
be I think that might be the one that I
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could see having, you know that I could see them
doing something with. How about you?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was gonna say that the Edge group just for
the sole reason that that Joey's gone, and I think
if you can add a seasoned vet to that room.
You know, obviously, listening to to Jesse talk about Canard
and just his production at South Carolina, you're hoping that
he makes an immediate impact. And we know about Touley
and Khalil obviously and Bud. But you know there's some
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guys like Zadaria Smith, von Miller, Matthew Judon. Judon was
a raven, you know, so Joe Ortiz has familiarity with him.
So I'm thinking of just like like a veteran in
kind of the same mold of Bud Dupree last year
when they got Bud, I think post draft and a
veteran that you can maybe count on throughout the course
of a seventeen game season that doesn't have to play
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a ton, but can it kind of add that veteran
leadership to the room. And there are some guys out
there now, I do think that over.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The next couple of mourners out there still right, aren't there?
I felt the same way kind of about because like
it's interesting, right, you still got Amari Cooper and Gabe
Davis just got cut, and Keenan Allen's out there, Agalore's
out there. I mean, you still got dudes out there
at at wide receiver. That's probably the one that's that's
got I mean, well you look in teior line and
you got Brandon Scherff still out there. You know, Will Hernandez,
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Jack Mason. I mean there's guys that are veterans, but
and you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mentioned that he's surprising to me, Money Sheriff is surprising
because he's been he's been pretty durable, like you know,
pro Bowl caliber guard.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean look at corners, right, obviously we know
a Sante junior, but Rasoul Douglas, Mike Hilton, Steph Gilmore,
Kendall Fuller, Like there's a lot of dude Jack Jones there,
you know, all with different issues, but like, to me,
that's one where I could totally see them, you know,
plucking a guy on a on a low number and
you know they just like the culture, want to work
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with Clink and coach Minner and coach Clink and coach
Minner and and Harbaugh, and I could I could see
that being one.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It reminds me of the I think the points you
brought up to Jesse about just kind of using that
that recruiting chip to use Puna Ford as that example
of like, hey, you know, we can we can get
you your next deal here, we can develop you, we
can maximize your potential. And I think at this stage
in free agency, guys are looking for that, right they're
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on the streets right now for a reason, and you know,
they want to go into a program where you can
develop and maybe get that next contract, whether it's with
the Chargers or somewhere else. And I think that they
have proven with guys like Fulton and Ford and you know,
Elijah getting that deal, that this is a program that
can really maximize your potential. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I think for the free agents too, it's you got
to remember that's a two way street. So they're going
to be looking at all of their potential opportunities and
probably an incentive laden contract and where am I going
to have the best shot to win a job? Or
I can get my snaps, I can work on getting
my production. And if I'm signing a low base number
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with you know, a couple million bucks and incentives like
that's you know, how do I get those incentives by
getting on the field. And I think when you look
at the corner room, think about the injury to you know,
the reason that Cam was dealing with last year, and
then you look at the deals that were signed in
Saint Jus and Jackson and you're like, okay, I could
I could pop in there, and I feel like I
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get a real fair shake at at getting some meaningful
snaps and maybe even earning an outside you know or
you know, in an outside corner slot starting position. If
things really work.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Out, sure it makes a ton of sense. And then
some of these veterans, you know, some of these guys
want to win a ring and they're looking for the
best situation where they can actually contend for a Super Bowl,
and I think some Vets may view the Chargers as
one of those teams. Let's move on here to Forest Price. Obviously,
there are Bolts fans all over the world. We have
the Diehard Bolt Club, Bolt Pride that are passionate about
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our beloved Chargers. How do you think the club interacts
with its out of state fans and what do you
think could be done to bring us closer to you? Well,
it's a good question. I see Chargers fans at all
these away games. We do a segment on CBS Bolts
on Road and a couple of times, I think it
was Denver and Vegas, maybe a couple other places. There
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are these these fan clubs that are from Denver or
from Las Vegas, and they are there for the game.
So I do think that the team does as much
as they possibly can, and these these opposing markets, we
obviously feel the love. I know, like I remember Arizona
a couple of years ago, Bunny where they had won
in the last second and it felt like the entire
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State Farm Stadium was filled the powder blue.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, you know, now in twenty twenty five, it's a
lot easier for people to do it on their own, right.
You can get that word out through social media and
everybody can meet up somewhere. I think the one challenge is,
you know, it's it's a business trip, and it's an
incredibly important business trip for the Chargers, so it's hard
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for them to be like, hey, yeah, we'll come out
on a Friday night and bring a player with us.
Like that's not going to happen. These guys have a
regimented schedule, meetings, treatment, meal, curfew, know, Friday and Saturday.
So it's not like they're just kind of hanging out
and running around town. It's it's a full on, forty
eight hour in out, win a football game, stay healthy,
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get home. So as far as the front off, you know,
like the as far as like the folks that do
social media, those departments and community interaction, Yeah, I suppose
there's stuff, and I'm always happy, you know. I always
try to engage before we go out somewhere. If if
we can find someone's like, oh I'll be here, We'll
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be there. Like you said, Chris, we always walked the
field before and chat with folks. But in terms of
setting up an official event, I think it's harder. Like
when we went to when we went to England, right,
we had that huge Chargers party with like four thousand
people because it was it was on like Thursday, you know,
we didn't play till Sunday. I think that was Thursday
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night if I remember right. So it's like, yeah, that works.
You know, you can get away with that because you've
got three days before or you're actually kicking off and
playing a football game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. I remember in Mexico City too, we had that
awesome fan party. It was great. I'm sure Brazil will
be similar in week one, but it's it's just it
is fun to see Charger fans in different parts of
the country, and it's great fascinating to see how many
there are in certain parts of the country too. They
go down to like South Florida or Arizona. Always a
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lot of powder Blue. So let's go to Jake, Jake Karence.
What's taking the Rashawn extension so long to get sorted
out and what are the chances of the NFL giving
US Rams Chargers in Australia next year. Well, the schedule
lines up as the Chargers of the Road team, so
it's certainly one of the possibilities. It'd be pretty funny
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and ironic that the two teams playing it's so by
going to Australia. But the Rashawn I don't know about you, buddy,
I'm not really worried about the Rashawn Slater extension. He's
one of the best left tackles in football. I think
Joe Ortiz and company are well aware of that, and
I'm sure that will get sorted out.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
When it gets sorted out, Yeah, you know, it's Look,
it's probably going to be a market changing deal, right,
he sees an all pro and when you're at that level,
typically what your agent wants is I mean, look, I
think it's a tough position for both sides. Right, You've
got market setting deals, you've got a salary cap that
took a huge jump, and you've got now players that
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are making a much larger percentage of the cap than
we had just last year, Like the Jamar Chase deal
just dwarfed the previous wide receiver deal. So I think
that's so you have agents and that's their job that say, Okay,
well here's the percentage that the top wide receiver is taking.
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And if we look at what the top wide receiver
had when Tristan Wurst signed his deal, this is what
he got. So now the deal isn't twenty eight, it's
thirty two. And I think when you're in Ed maguire
and Georg t situations like, well, yeah, but the top
deal is still you know, twenty nine, and that's hard
to get around. It's, you know, when you're talking about
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that much money and then one side wants still a
couple million more, it just gets tricky. Do I feel
great about it? I don't. I wish it were done
already because I just feel like Rashan's the kind of
guy that would just say, hey, man, just get it done.
Like you know, he and Herbert are so close. I
feel like he loves it here, and I would assume
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just kind of knowing, you know, you look at Baltimore
and the fact that they had Jonathan Ogden for all
those years they now just you know, everybody thought Ronnie
Stanley was going to get out of the building and
sign a massive deal with New England because they had
all that money in need of the left tackle, and
they were like, absolutely not, You're not going anywhere. So
it's he comes from an organization where offensive line is
incredibly important. It's a head coach that has preached offensive
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line is a weapon, tip of the spear, and it's like, okay,
you know this, let's figure this out. Man. I So
I don't know, but I would assume that that's the
hang up is it's a few million bucks because of
the big jump in cap the huge jump in wide receive.
You know, non quarterback salaries took a massive jump this
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year with Miles Garrett and with Jamar Chase, and because
that happened, it changes the economics. And I'm sure each
side is kind of digging in like, no, this is sorry, man,
this is the business of the NFL, and this is
how we do it. And you've got one side and
Rashaan and his agent that are you know, holding that
number according to that calculus, and then you've probably got
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Joe Ortiz and Ed and that front office that are saying, well,
you know, this is a little more in line with
with where he is. Look at what fill in the blank,
you know, Werf's and Williams and all these guys are
making and I think that's how you get hung up.
But remember this happened with Joey, this happened with Derwin,
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like and those were market setting deals, right, Joey became
the highest paid non quotquarterback in the league. Derwin became
the highest paid safety by a pretty good margin. And
it took a minute, and so I think it's probably
just going to take a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Also, there's no urgency right now, you know, with training
camp and those types of deadlines. I think Breed a
little bit more urgency because you want the guys in camp.
But for Shawn right now, he's a proven commodity, you
know who he is. If he misses some time in
the off season, then it is what it is. But
I do think that once training camp gets closer and
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then you think about this, this is another reason why
you know, you look at free agency, why there wasn't
this spending spree by the Chargers, Like they know that
they have to pay for Shaun Slater. They know that
they have to eventually pay Derwin James his next deal,
So I do think that all that figures in. I
just I can't see a guy that is that good
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at a position that coach Harball values so much ever
leaving Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And yeah, I'm with you. I just it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense. You've got Justin Herbert's your quarterback.
The last thing you want to do is is have
an issue with his left tackle, of course, And you
know what, I'll be honest, like, I considering how much
flux there is at those two positions center and left guard, Like,
I think you got to get him in there, man, Like,
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this is not a guy you want missing. You want
to get all five of those guys so you can
figure out, you know, like George, he's has talked about,
you know, we were just going to play the best five.
He's like guard tackle. That was kind of what they
preached last year, right with Trey, and is he going
to be your right guard? And he's like, they like,
we just want the best five. So if you're going
to be working through all those combinations, I'm sure you
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know that that they're gonna want to They're gonna want
to get that. They're gonna want to do it with Rashawan.
You know, they want to figure out who slots in
best next to him, if Zion's moving to center. Like,
there's so many moving parts just with those two positions
that I think having Rashawn in there is it's got
to be a you know, coach dev and coach Hardwick.
I'm sure like, come on, guys, let's let's get this
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sort of out.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You want that time on task, especially in training camp
with those starting five guys, whoever they're going to be.
All right, let's go to Peter Padre. From your perspective,
where does Herbert need to improve? Understanding he needs to
help around him, where he can stand to where can
he stand to improve? I struggle between games like the
Raiders four years ago where he put the team on
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his back and the Houston playoff loss. So I was
thinking about this one, buddy, and I heard Porties in
Hardball loud and clear after that playoff loss and really
kind of going into the off season, and really their
actions have done the talkies like we need to give
Justin Herbert more help, and they did that with Harris
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and Hampton in the backfield, and drafting Trey Harris and
bringing back Mike Williams and adding Tyler Conklin and Makai
Becton to kind of further boltster that offensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, Herbert, like anybody, probably needs to improve. But I
just he's so good and he had a tough playoff
game in Houston and the only other playoff game he's
been in Jacksonville, there have twenty seven nothing could run
the football in the second half. So it's hard for
me to say exactly where Justin can improve. I'd like
to just see year two of Jim Harball with this
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running game that was I think according to PFF twenty
ninth in the NFL last year. They've completely remade it,
and I think that's gonna help Justin.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, look at this point, if we're talking about what
can he improve, we're picking nets, right. Yeah, he's incredible
and he's created everything. And I know that sounds like, Oh,
it's the Chargers Weekly podcast, so of course they're going
to say that. So yeah, if you want me to
pick something, it's running the ball. It's you know, I
think a lot of times when you see him at
that mesh point. I feel like there's been some real
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opportunity for him to pull it, keep it and go,
and I'd love to see more of that. I think
that's to me, that's it, Like that's truly the only
thing I've always talked about, the quarterback sneak. But I
think some some quarterbacks are with it, some don't like it,
which I totally understand. I've said that repeatedly. You know,
I know there's some folks out there that that view
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it as mandatory. I don't, just because I've talked to
quarterbacks and I kind of know what, you know, what
they what they say about that play and what a
pain in the ass it can be, and how much
pounding you're taking when you get in there because guys
are getting the tee off on you and taking free
shots on you. So I get that part of it.
But yeah, I think if I had a point to
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one thing, it's like, yeah, those on those mesh point,
on those options, I'd love to see him just kind
of keep it, you know, and just to get the
defense on their heels a little bit more. I feel
like he can he can set that tone of hey man,
I'm gonna run, so you better be ready for it,
and you better know that that's coming. I think you
just need to set that tone early just to sort
of help get the defense off kilter a little bit
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and have them thinking about it the whole game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That was the most surprising part of that Wildcard game.
Zero rushing attempt zero from Justin Herbert. And I go
back to that Christmas game when the Ravens played the Texans,
and in Lamar right from the beginning, just running all
over the Texans and not having that element to your
offense I think certainly hurt the Chargers. So his ability
and I just go back to his Rose Bowl victory
and just running all over the field in that game.
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He's super bowl super capable of it, especially in a
Greg Roman offense. So yeah, running the football I think
would be a nice wrinkle more consistently in twenty twenty five,
for sure. All Right, let's see here, money, let's keep
this thing rolling, Angel Lira, what will be the starting
O line combination in Week one of the season and
what will be the starting GO line combination in week seventeen?
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Good question, Angel, I hope it's the same, right, you
hope it's the same. I think All and Slater are
pretty much locked in. I think Mackai Beckon at right
guards pretty much locked in. And then we have I
think a lot of competition at center and left guard,
with Zion potentially moving to center. The addition Andre James Boseman,
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you have Trey Pipkins in the mix. Still, what do
you think.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I think it's going to be the same, just backed
in replacing Trey. To me, that's what it is because
that allows Trey to be that swing, you know, to
go back to tackle if needed. Hopefully he's not, but
if he's needed like he did last year. You know
when when Slater went down and All went to the
left side and he popped up, I think he played
the right tackle that day if I remember right. So
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I think that makes to me, that's just what it
looks like. That's so why they brought Bradley Boseman back.
They like him. Everybody on the team loves him. We
talk about the makeup of an O line room and
how important it is to have those guys connected and
comfortable in chemistry. And while I know the pass protection
was a bit of a struggle, especially in that Houston
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Texans game, with Jamari there at right guard. I think
that's just the way it lines up. Even though they
didn't pick up Zion's fifty year option and they've talked
about trying him at center. I just he would really
have the wow coach Devln and Hardwick and Greg Roman
and Harbaugh to take that center spot, I think away
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from Bozeman because now you're moving two guys. Now you're
moving Boseman to guard and or maybe you know, maybe
it's Zion at center and Trey at left guy. I
just don't like to me, it just makes too much
sense draft capital wise, how highly they think of Zion
and they're just like, man, it's just it's so close,
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it's so close. Can we just get it to that
finish line?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
How close do you think the gap is between Bozeman
and Andre James, who has sixty starts in the NFL too,
And you know, over the last three years, actually four years,
seventeen starts, fifteen starts, sixteen starts, eleven starts in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's tough because you look two years ago and
I know he graded out a lot better. Last year
was an abject failure for pretty much the Raiders offense. Period,
So it's kind of hard to stick that on somebody.
But at the same time, it's not a bad offensive
line group. And you know, he really struggled last year,
so I think that's I would be very surprised if
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he were able to beat Bozeman out. I think, you know,
if you go out and you sign Ryan Kelly for
ten million bucks, it's like, yeah, he's getting the starting job.
But I think you look at Andre James and he
was released by released by the Raiders, and the Chargers
gave him a very low, veteran minimum level deal. You know,
it's not it's not a you know, it helps to
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look at the money, like how much did they give him?
And is it like out here, let me pull up
the OTC right now he is. He is making one
point one million dollars. Uh. So it's not a deal
that says, oh yeah, this guy's coming in to compete
for that job. I mean at one point one, let's
see what's because Bradley, I think got he got a
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two year deal. So I'm guessing that Bradley got CANSI yeah,
Bradley's he's at one two, five to five base. But
so he's at he is at five million dollar cap
number this year, right, that's his cap number. Andre James
is one point one. What does that tell you? You
know that that tells you that competitors welcome. Yeah, that
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that Bradley's probably ahead of the game there for for center,
and I think Zion is going to play. They've got it.
They've invested a first round picking him. He's had flashes
of greatness and he struggled mightily. But because you have
both ends of that spectrum, they're trying to get him,
you know, toward that that greatness that we've seen at times.
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So that's just that's what I figure.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
We've We've addressed most of this question, but I'll just
ask this one. This is from Mario. Does it worry
you that we haven't fully addressed the interior offensive line,
which was clearly a major issue last season. Beckton was
a great signing, but that's one of three needs. Should
he be out for a game, we're right back to
where we started.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's fair. Yeah, I certainly think it's fair. Look that
Beckton signing was fantastic. It's a huge signing. So you
know you're not talking about and I thought Trey played
okay last year. Look, Trey could end up if it's
possible that he wins that guard spot. You know, he
played okay, you know, he played all right, and that's
what you needed offensive line. You just can't have bad.
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That's the thing. If you have bad, they're going to
find it and they're going to attack it relentlessly. All
you need when you have excellence great because now you
can find a way to help where you don't have excellence.
So you know, DJ says it all the time, as
long as you know, and to use a term that
he has, he's like, as long as you don't have
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a tomato can, you're fine. But if you have one,
that's when you got a problem. If you can, you
don't need to be exceptional at all five positions. You
just got to be good enough. And when you have
Alton Slater at the edges, you're exceptional there and that
certainly helps a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I think it's a lot to ask, you know,
Branson Taylor to come in and compete at one of
those guard spots in year one, and the fact that
they didn't really address interier offensive line in the draft,
it makes you look at some of these free agents,
and we mentioned Brandon Sheriff Shaq Mason, will Hernandez Dalton Reisner.
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You know there's guys out there still, But to your
point earlier, are they going to come in and actually
compete and beat out the guys that are currently on
this roster?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I just you know, I look at the combined nine
million bucks between Bozeman and Zion. You know, five million
for Bozeman is his cap number this year. Four point
six for Zion is his cap number for this year.
Like that to me, says, okay, there's your center in
your guard. You know, Mackay at seven and a half million,
obviously old seven and a half million, Slater at nineteen million.
They're sure you know those are the top five offensive
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line salary numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just that's what it looks like to me. Yeah, all right,
let's keep it rolling. This is from Nuthouse. What a
great name. QJ. Going to be better next year, Gonna
be putting a role where he's going to excel. I say,
his stats will suffer because there's more cooks in the kitchen,
but he will look even better than last year. Raiders
game was not an outlier. I tend to agree with
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with Nuthouse and the fact that he was I think
relied upon a little bit too much last year. And
with the additions of Trey Harris and Mike Williams, maybe
Q can settle into a role where he kind of
has a specialty role in this offense and isn't look
to do maybe more than he I guess I just
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feel like this past year money he was asked to
do maybe a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, look, I've said it, and it's not a slight
He's just not an X. That's not what Q is.
You know. Q's a Z. He's a good see, you know,
and if you can get him, you know, when you
have Mike, that's who I think you're starting three will be.
Michael be the X, you know, Mike Williams, that'll be
your slot. Q will be the Z. And considering you
know Mike's age, Mike's history, You've got Trey Harris ready
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to take some of those reps and if something should
happen to step in because Trey's an X, you know.
Now the interesting one is KeAndre Lambert Smith with that
four to three speed makes it interesting as a Z.
Get him outside if he's able to get off press.
Now you got four to three speed running down the
field and that helps a lot. I mean, so I
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totally get and I think that's kind of where the
conversation sort of comes in with how does this wide
receiver room get built. I don't think there's any question
with the chemistry and the production that Mike Williams and
Justin Herbert have had in the past, that he's going
to be your starting X, you know, no question about it.
And Ladd obviously is going to be your starting slot,
and Q, I think will be your starting Z. And
then you look behind him, you know that Darius Davis
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and Trey Trey Harris and and Andre Lambert Smith are
going to make the team. So they're six. Now how
many wide receivers are carrying, you know, And that's where
it gets kind of interesting with and Rice and you know,
Jalen Johnson and some of these guys that you know,
you think about last year with Simmy and and dudes
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that we thought were on the roster bubble that made it,
and you know, this year, it doesn't feel like that
at all. It feels like, Okay, it's it's it's it's
a pretty it's a deep room and it's gonna be
you know, it's Jalen Rager. I forgot they resigned Jalen Rager.
Like that's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be a
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tough room. It's gonna be a tough room to crack
and make the fifty three good money.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I always go back to Herbert's rookie season and you
know we've we've mentioned the names t Billy and Jalen Guy.
You wonder how Justin is going to mesh with some
of these young rookies immediately. Sometimes it clicks really quickly.
Look at lad last year exactly. Look at that, you
know with Trey Harris, maybe he gets on the field
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sooner than later. You mentioned KeAndre and his speed. Uh
I love I love the Gats and U pick up.
You know we didn't get to do that talk about
day three. Gats another kind of athletic tight end that
you add to the Disley and Conkland room. And I
just I am fascinated to see how Justin will kind
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of pick up with some of these new guys and
how quickly that chemistry starts. And you know the fact
that you that you had a whole season with Q
in such a feature role last year. I think that
will help Quentin in year three as well.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, that's the other thing too about wide receiver. How
often were they in thirteen? I mean it's a team
that was running twelve like crazy, you know, like they
I should say thirteen. How often were they in eleven?
Like how often they have three receivers out there? Like
this is a team that was in twelve? You know
which is you know, first number backs, second number tight ends.
I know all of you probably know it, but for
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those that don't, that's what it is. So a lot
of two tight ends and I mentioned number thirteen, they
ran a lot of thirteen where you know, you could
argue that Matt Locke or however you want to classify him,
you know, or twenty two. You know, if Tucker Fisk
is playing fullback, Mattlock's playing fullback, they're running twenty two,
they're running thirteen, They're running twelve like that's just what
they've run. And with Gadsden, that'll be interesting right where
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it'll feel like thirteen. But the third tight end is
lined up in the slot and he's a dude that
can freak and get after it and is an athlete,
and so that's there's gonna be some real cool combinations
that Greg Roman's going to have to work with, you know,
for this, and you think about sort of how he
did it in Baltimore, you know, with all those tight
ends and how effective they were, And it's gonna be fun.
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Gadsten's a It's gonna be a fun one, no doubt
about it. Now. Look, he's probably not gonna get a
ton of snaps because of the Conklent signing and just
how good Conklin is, how he's got great hands, and
he's certainly a great athletic tight end, you know, a
really good athletic tight end. I think he fits perfectly
with Fisk and Disley, So he's going to get the
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majority of those snaps, but it'll be fun to kind
of sprinkle those in there from time to time.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
One of the fun themes of the last couple of
years with Joe Ortiz, he's identified players with NFL fathers,
right with Joe alt in Round one last year and
and gas that I remember him as a dolphin. And
our next question Mickens. Remember Ray Mickens with the Jets.
I this is from Kevin Adrian. I think Nickens is
the clear replacement for a low heat when his contract
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expires this season. I think he's going to get plenty
of starting snaps his rookie year and might leap Jefferson
on the depth chart. Thoughts, I think the Chargers only
roster Ford safeties on their fifty three and twenty four Well, Kevin,
I think it starts on special teams for mister Mickens.
He's gonna have to kind of earn his way onto
the field. And you know, I love the confidence and
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im and I think I just hearing Jesse talk about
him last week, it's it sounds like it's a great
signing in the sixth round, But I think it's gonna
take a little time to kind of crack that depth
chart in the safety room right now.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, And I mean you look at Mickens and you know,
in terms of like a replace meant for a looie,
I think he's probably better closer to the ball, you know,
in terms of but he can do it all like
he's but but you started with the perfect way to
set the tone is this is this is a Ryan
Ficken pick. You know, get me Bridges, get me Mickens.
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I think Canard in the fourth like these are guys
that are going to be special teamers, and they're going
to need to replace all these dudes you know that
left and they lost. You know when you lose nickname
and you're talking about one of the best special teams
players in the league loss, And so like, these are
the guys that he's going to have to coach up.
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And you know, Dean Leonard's still there, and you still
have Quiet, you still have some guys, but like Chris
Rump is gone, and I know he was out all
last year, but he loves having that athletic d ND
edge kind of player. That's probably where Canard fits in
a little bit because of how he's going to be
used as as sort of a DPR role as as
opposed to a three down lineman. So I would assume
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he's going to get these They're they're hoping he can
be a core four guy. So I think that's where
it starts. In terms of Aloe's contract, I think it's
don't don't underestimate how important he is to this team
and how much this team loves him, and and you
know it can't all be sizzle. Aloe's Aloe is is
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I like to say, you know, he's the grout. You
get your focus on the tile, but you also got
to have the grout to hold the tile together. And
that's what Aloe is man. He just he connects, He
connects things really well. He's a smart player, has a
nose for the ball as tough as nails. And and
so I don't think just I don't think you assume
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that he's just going to be gone when his contracts up.
I think he's a guy that they I could totally
see them, you know, unless unless Mackings flashes, you know,
unless Bridges flashes. Is you know, like that's that's kind
of how these things work.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Aloe's one of those rare players too, who who translates
to another administration.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
He he was drafted by Tom Telesco, and you would
have thought that Joe Ortiz and Jim Harball drafted him
as high as they think of him on the field
and off the field. So I agree with you in
terms of a LOHI and his impact in that secondary
And and Durwin loves him, and Darwin loves playing with
him because.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'm always in the right position. So it's a great
safety group. I mean, it's it's one of the true
strengths of this team is Molden Gilman in Durwin. I mean,
it's it's as good as safety trio as you have
anywhere in the league. So the idea that you're just
going to break that up and Mickens is going to
start earning some snaps, Like you're talking about breaking up
a group that, if you were to rank them, is
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right up there at the top. It's not something I
would want to see, no, But I.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like Kevin's thinking because he's he's looking at the fifth
round last year with Cam harton tarhek Still and guys
who are playing a lot. But uh, and it's a
great one by Kevin because a Lowie gets hurt. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lowe has gotten hurt, you know, and missed a game
or two every year. So that's that's why it's it's
certainly a great point to bring up. You've got to
have some depth there.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, And I you know, they lost Elijah in the
Patriots game and that was a big blow in the
playoff game. So all right, let's keep this rolling. Double
M three questions. Who are your guys' top three guesses
of the udfas to make the roster? Who would be
your surprise cut or trade before the season starts, and
who is one trade free agent signing you think the
(36:23):
Bolts should make around this time of time of training camp,
preseason as far as surprise cut trades, you know, just
just looking at how a lot of these contracts are
set up. Money, I don't really see unless I'm missing somebody.
I don't see a player that's making like a ton
of money that that we're going to be like completely
shocked if they get cut or if they get traded, Like,
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I don't see that player on this roster, do you.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I just yeah, I just would prefer not to answer that.
You're talking about somebody losing their job. We're talking about
somebody getting fired. So yeah, for me, that's not one
I'm gonna to jump into. Just not comfortable doing it,
to be honest. And I don't And I'm with you,
I don't. I don't know who who that would be.
And I just don't see I.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Don't see it one of those. I don't see one
of those like camp cut candidates on the on the
roster right now. The we kind of talked about this
in terms of a free agent signing that the Bolts
should make as training camp gets closer, and I think
a lot of that is kind of contingent on injuries
and you know what happens in camp and in terms
of adding somebody. But if you're going coming in with
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the clean slate, you know, I mentioned as you mentioned
corner before, I don't think that really changes.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, and just the udfas that he talked about, you know,
there's always seems like there's always one, you know, or
two or something along those lines. Last year, you know,
the bell of the ball was Tremon Morris brash that
everyone got excited about really flashed. Just kind of going
through it to me just based on you know, look,
I think about what are the two positions that we
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talked about, right, Garmin Randolph, who's got a bunch of production,
COVID guy, six year edge player, all the measurables, you know,
he could flash. And then you know Nico Reid the
corner out of Oregon again a ton of experience and
a ton of production. And I just kind of look
at that position group that and and the special teams.
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Like I said, Coach Ficken likes corners and he likes
those super athletic edge players for special teams as well,
so I think it's those two. There's a lot of
people that have been asking about Raheem Sanders the running back,
and I just I and look, yeah, sure, it's a
team that likes to run the ball. But then I
just look what's in front of them, you know. I mean,
you're talking about Najie Harris and Amari and Hampton and
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Hassan Haskins. Is you know, their short yardage special teams guy,
he's he's a lock for the team. And you know,
whatever what they asked him to do last year he
was great at So is is Raheem gonna Are they
gonna carry four backs?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And a fullback like it? So I don't. And then
there's you know, we've we've talked about him a bunch,
Steve O. Klatt's you know guy who's played fullback, you know.
And I know they love Scott Mattlock and they love
his development and he's certainly turned into a heck of
a player. But if you have a guy that's been
a full back for a couple of years now, I mean,
he's a tight end full back hybrid, but he's a
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dude that likes to mix it up, then that's one
that I could see get interesting if they're like ooh's.
So those are probably the three. I think Reed, Randolph
and Klotts would be the three i'd circle.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I'll give you one more, Jordan Oladokin a corner from
Bowling Green, and these are just kind of I know,
the competition isn't the same as the sec of the
Big Ten, Big twelve, but one of three quarterbacks in
college football who allowed zero touchdowns number two and fewest
allowed receiving yards two hund nineteen and an opposing passer
rating of eighteen point four plus he took the ball
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away a bunch, So you never know how that competition
is going to translate to the NFL. But again, I
just think of that marriage of Jesse Minter and the
way he's developed quarterbacks. Maybe he's the guy to watch them.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, great point. They love production. Right, If you produce,
it's clear you know how to play football exactly, all.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right, Alex. Do you know if je Ortiz or coach
Harbaugh ever listened to Chargers weekly. I don't know. I
think they probably have. They probably have better things to do,
more important things to do than to listen to us.
Bunny though.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, my answer to that is, I hope not. I'd
be it'd be flattering if they did. But I think
I don't know. I don't know. If you asked me,
would you rather they do or don't, I'd probably answer
I'd rather they That would be my answer to that one.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
All right, Ferdie June your two questions, what's going on
with Ezekiel Elliott? But nothing Zeke. I remember seeing Zeke
in the building the day or two days before the
Wildcard game, and Zeke was a signing. If they beat
the Texans, maybe you play him in Kansas City. But
I just don't know if he has a future on
the Chargers this year.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, definitely.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Should we expect to see Brendan Rice on the roster
this year? And you kind of went through that, you
went through all the wide series. I have him as
like why receiver seven right now behind lad Trey, Mike Quintin, KeAndre,
Jalen Rieger and Brendon.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
At that point. Yeah, I mean you look at you know,
they carried six wide receivers last year. That's that's you know,
I'm going let me see only go to nine nine two? Uh,
they did carry seven. They had Rice, remember on the
roster out of camp, so he broke camp, making it.
So in September they had seven, let's go to October,
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they were down to six November six, December six, January five.
So there that's you know, you got the two draft
picks that are making it. You got Q. You know
what you got Darius. And then the question comes with
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Darius Davis. You know, as we talked about him last year,
had a couple of election plays on the field. He's
got blazing speed, He's a great returner. KeAndre Lambert Smith
has no special teams experience. You don't want Ladd back
there returning punts and kicks and take an extra punishment already,
you know beyond what he is. So to me, Darius
makes it. So there's your six man, you know, Mike
(42:19):
Trey at the X. You got Darius Davis, Lad McConkie,
and your two rookies. All right, I already said Trey.
So you have Trey Harris, Mike Williams, Lad McConkie, Quinton Darius.
And it's my problem. Why am I so stupid? It's
like I can't make this easy on myself. Yeah, that's it.
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It's Darius Davis, Lad McConkie, Tray Harris KeAndre Quinton and
Mike there's I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I didn't even I'd even I think of Darius as
like like this offensive weapon. Then I didn't even have it.
So yeah, Brenda Rice would be eight.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Well so you're thinking, oh, you're thinking Brendan as because right,
because then you like the next group is Brendan Rice,
Jalen Rager, Jalen Johnson. There's your seven eight nine, right, Yeah,
you know that's that's your seven eight nine. If you're
gonna carry seven, those three guys duking it out. I
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just especially with the tight ends they're gonna carry. They're
gonna carry four tight ends Disley, Conklin, Fisk and Gadsden,
they're gonna carry four, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And then you I was gonna say Brendan was only
active for three games last season, three offensive snaps, so yeah,
you know, unfortunately doesn't really have any time on task
with Justin in a game.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, but look, he can still jump up and win
a gig, no doubt. I just feel like those those
two rookies are gonna make it. And when you put
those two rookies with the other four, you're at six
and it's just it's it's a numbers issue, and nobody
plucked him off the practice squad. So you know, if
that's where he is and you get a call up
and any flashes, then great, here we go.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yep, all right, a few more money laser beaming. Now
that we know a boy Be has put on some weight,
is there any buzz going around about what the significance
of his role is going to look like? Seems like
a great opportunity for him to step up. That was
one of the key takeaways from the pod last week.
Is a boy be put on twenty pounds after the
season and you know what does coach say? Competitors welcome,
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you bring in hand, you bring in Jones, a lot
of potential opportunity defensive tackle this upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, look, it's wide open. You know, it's not like
they signed Milt Williams or anything. You know, these are
all guys that are going to be competing for that rotation.
Obviously Caldwell, I would suspect Is and tier Tart are
are going to be in there. But yeah, can a
boy be jump ahead at Sean Hann you know Tito
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kind of how does that all line up? Yeah? I
think it's wide open for him to get in there.
And you know how much they like to rotate those guys.
I mean, think back to last year, you really just
kind of had Poona as you're one constant, and then
after that it was sort of that rotation of Tito,
of Morgan, of you know, Tuley kicking inside it put
Joey kicking. It's like they rotated the heck out of
that group. Tierra ended up. Remember Tier started the season
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just getting a couple of snats here and there, and
then by the end of the season he was out
there all the time. So I think a boyd B
is going to be in that mix for sure. Based
on what coach said.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Uh the lago thanks for all the hard work this
offseason fellas what was your favorite move of the offseason
thus far, whether it's free agency, draft, et cetera, And
who has the biggest impact for the team in twenty
twenty five? What are you thinking to start? I was
just gonna say, o, Marion Hampton, I think that he's that.
(45:46):
You know, for for as much as the narrative had
been like, hey, let's get justin Herbert weapons, I think
Omarin Hampton is going to be the biggest weapon for
Justin in terms of the running game, and he reminds
me of a Saquon Barkley type and that he can
really carry the load in a game, and you know,
he's just the total package. So between between him and
(46:10):
I think getting a guy like Trey Harrison, I just
I think that his potential the first two rounds in
the draft really got me excited about the offense.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah I'm gonna and it's just because I was so
convinced it was gonna happen and I for whatever reason,
I don't know why, I couldn't have been more wrong.
You didn't even get an interview. But I just think
the fact that jesse Menter's back, Like I was convinced,
I'm like, this guy between college and the NFL is
gonna get interviewed and he's so good in the room
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and he's gonna get a job, And for whatever reason,
it didn't line up. So I think having him back
for another year after what he did last year man
is is huge. I just think it is huge for
this team to have that second year and that goes
for coach Roman too, like just another year of continuity
with both coordinators back, but just what Jesse was able
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to do with a number of guys on one year deals,
Let's drop him in, Like think about all the just
the one week of Eli Apple, the one week of
Marcus made the like, how good of a job? And
that's and it's beyond and I say coach Minner, but
it's it's everyone right, the fact that that Clink is back,
that Elston's back, that all of the Navarl Bowman are back,
like all these guys are back, Chrys O'Leary the safety
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coach has gone, you know, Fuller's in. But like there's
just continuity, man, And I think that goes a long
long way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, in the defense obviously is so important to have
that that continuity and that consistency because the turnaround from
the year before Harball and mintser guide here to what
they did in their first year was just remarkable and
really a big reason why they won eleven games this year. Yeah,
we talk about it the Harball, the way that they play,
(47:52):
It was really the defense because and that's why I
say Hampton and I would actually kind of plug in
Naje Harrows and Mackai Beckton and that too, is that
they are completely trying to remake the running game here,
and you know, JK had a really good bounce back year,
but collectively that running game just did not look like
a Jim Harball running game if you look at his
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history at Michigan and his time in the NFL with
the Niners. I think I mentioned earlier in the podcast,
PFF gave him a grade of twenty ninth in the
NFL in the running game. So when you bring in
Hampton and you bring in Harris, we talked about the
durability of both of those guys. Beckton a guy who
was a run greater for Sakuon Barkley. That's going to
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help Justin Herbert. And I think that if you had
something like that going into a playoff game in twenty
twenty five, maybe that looks a little bit different because
they're going to play a different way and they're going
to have two guys in the backfield that just don't
miss starts. And I think that was that was the
biggest thing for me, is bringing a guy like Nauji
who has not missed the game in the NFL, and
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bringing a young guy like Hampton, who, if it wasn't
for gent, would be the top running back.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
That's a great point. It's a great point, availability man,
because we saw when guys went down it was a
real struggle, especially JK. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
A couple more This is from Michael. Who do you
guys think the opponent will be for the Brazil game?
There was some chatter about Mahomes and Chiefs will want
to play in it, but I think it's the Texans
that makes the most sense. I don't know. I mean,
I think Pro Football Talk had a report that it
could be the Chiefs potential to the Chiefs, you think
it's the Chiefs. Yeah, so you so you would lose
(49:31):
that home game in so far and then play Patrick
Mahomes in Brazil? Which one.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's the way it has to be, you know, Chiefs.
Chiefs always get the Chargers on a short week. We
go there on a Thursday night. They never you know,
It's just just the way it is. And we know that.
You know Clark hunt as he's all about that, man,
He's all about it. And I think if the NFL,
you know, here's the Chiefs, say we'll go like great,
(49:55):
let's go. You know that's because that's I believe that's
a that's a streaming game. I think or it's a
peacock game.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
It's a peacock game, and it's a Friday peacock game
that they wanted. They want a big they want a
big team next to Herbert and the Chargers for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, and I think that's think about what what Goodell's
I'll just just look at the look at the read
the tea leaves. You know, what did Goodell say around
the draft? He said, you know, we we expect to
have sixteen of these games a year, and it's another
revenue source where they can sell these sixteen games you buy,
we're selling the international package. You get all the international games.
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Who wants it, and that's what they're going to do.
And so this is a showcase. And to have the
first one be justin Herbert Patrick Mahomes, you know, and
a standalone in a market that's only four hours you know,
it's only one hour ahead of New York time, four
hours ahead of LA Like, yeah, we can PLoP this
(50:55):
thing in primetime and we're rolling Man on a Friday
night and let's go sell this package and make billions
and billions of dollars more. I love it.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, I would prefer it be the Raiders. I think
Jim Harball versus Pete Carroll Week one in Brazil, Silver
and Black versus the Chargers would be fun.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
But yeah, just not. They need that game to cook.
Look at last year it was Eagles Packers. You know,
it's two playoff teams. It's gonna be too. That's why
I thought maybe the Texans would make sense. But there's
just not enough sizzle. I mean no, Herbert Mahomes is
serious sizzle and that's what they want. You know, before
the international games were here, you go, here's here's two
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bottom feeders whatever. And now it's just totally changed where
they want big markets or really good teams with superstars
and that's what that's what the international game is now.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, it's not it's not six am on the West
Coast on Sunday either. This is this is the first
Friday of the NFL season, So you're right, it needs
to be star power last one.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Where Where are we? Where are we?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Where are we? This is from Jason Delgado with the
tag on JK. What do you think the chances are
that he'll be back? Do you agree? If he does
come back, it would be our best backfield? Says LT
Turner and Sprolls probably would be. But I don't know.
The Melvin Gordon Austin Eckler year in twenty eighteen was
pretty good. But you know, I'm happy for JK if
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he does come back. I do hope that he gets
an opportunity to actually it'd get a little bit more
playing time somewhere else, just for me professionally, you.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Know, for him, I hope he doesn't come back because
it would mean that he's coming back on a one
point seven million dollar deal, you know, So I've got
to believe someone out there is willing to flip him
three or four million bucks or you know, something along
those lines, based on what he showed last year. Unless
the medicals are just like that, that move, that move
is just rolling the dice that you can get a compick.
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Let's let's see if we can roll the dice and
a team, you know, he clears medicals and maybe a
team gets an injury early and they need it back
and they sign him, you know, and he goes out
and performs and now here's a compick for you. Here's
a fifth, here's a fourth, here's a sixth, whatever, and
that that that's just what that deal screams to me,
is there's an opportunity for them because he made it
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through the first wave to get a compick back. That's
all that was, Yep, because he's gonna get out, He's
going to get an offer for more money than that.
I just I've got to believe he is again.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Once you get to training camp, that's when you know,
especially these running backs, there's like there's I think Nick
Chubb is out there. A couple of the guys are
out there too right now. So sometimes injuries in mini
camp and training camp will will kind of speed up
that process. Anything else, money, We got Joe Ortiz next week.
Schedule released next week. So to your earlier point at
the beginning, Man, it never stops. We'll maybe get a
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brief lull in June and then back at it for
an early training camp.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Exactly looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Man, cool, all right? For money, I'm Chris. This has
been charges weekly
Late fifteen ten touched up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's Up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of
Chargers Weekly. Chris Hayrey here with you, along with the
Voice of the Chargers Matt money Smith and Buddy. First,
I just want to say that Jesse Mitzer interview last
week was awesome. It was good man, next level football
conversation and just a really detailed breakdown of this incoming
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defensive draft class. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thanks man, Yeah, and a huge thanks to Josh and
Ricky and everyone over there for helping out. And that's
just the first. You know, we're gonna get coach Roman,
We're gonna get Coach Ficken, so we'll get all the
coordinators in there, and you know, they kind of laid
out our schedule with everything kind of ramping up and
getting rolling now Phase two and rookie camp and all
that that's happening this week. It's exciting we get you know,
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we have football back. It's back, and you certainly got
that cent at the facility and talking to coach and
bringing in the draft class and getting excited about getting
his hands on these guys and coaching them up. So
it certainly feels different. I felt like these last couple
of weeks, Chris, It's it's had a different feel the
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Chargers weekly, Like, yeah, we're we're kind of back in
this thing. Man, it's the off season, but it's not,
you know what I mean, Like it's not the off
season anymore. Like stuff's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Stuff's happening. Especially next week too. We have the schedule
release next week, and if I'm not mistaken, I think
Joe Ortiz is going to join the program next week too.
So you mentioned the coaches, we'll get the GM next
week to talk about some of these rookies and undrafted
free agents, and you know, obviously I think top of
mind this weekend is a rookie mini camp and I
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got a bunch of questions that we'll go through over
the next hour or so. But just kind of your
thoughts on rookie mini camp this upcoming weekend and maybe
a couple of guys that you're excited to see out
there on the grass.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I think just starts with the number one pick,
you know, with with Amarion and what he looks like,
because he's you know, there's guys that you want getting
off the bus first, and a Marion is one of
those guys. The way he's built, how well he moves
at that size, it's going to be fun to see
him out there. And you know, we remember we were
out on the field last year, Chris at training camp,
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and it was funny just to see jk and and
Gus standing next to each other and you're like, yeah,
they come in different sizes, and you know, Lamaran's in
the Gus mold, only he's got that explosive athleticism to
go with with that kind of size. So that's going
to be fun. I think kind of, you know, skill
position players are the ones that are always sort of
the most fun to look at just because of how
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different you can be built and still operate at a
high level. You know, Trey Harris and Keandrey Lambert Smith,
they're going to look totally different standing next to each other.
But at the same time, that's you know, just kind
of what's the And I'm sure there's questions, so I
don't want to jump the gun here, but you know,
what's the makeup of that wide receiver room? You know
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that'd be and yeah, it's exciting. I think the undrafted
free agents, you know, we've talked about him before, but
Steve Oclott seeing him get out there, you know, having
an actual fullback, being a team that wants to bring
in a full back and get a look at that
is going to be great as well.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
We have a UDFA question in our mail bag today too,
but let's just get right into him first. One is
from Noami Money. Georgie said on the Up and Adams
Show that they are still looking to add to all
position groups. What is one position group that you both
think is not obvious to us fans that needs more
at tension, more additions rather, who would you like to
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see added to the group? I'll start with you, man,
what do you think?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I think just kind of trying to build out
the fifty three and thinking about how many backs, wide receivers,
tight ends O line, and I feel like those are
all full. You know, like we're going to be talking
about guys that you wouldn't think around the bubble that
are probably on the bubble in all and each of
those groups. I know a lot of people are thinking
about the lack of addressing the interior offensive line, but man,
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they got a lot of guys there, you know, I mean,
you're talking about the guys they signed in James brought
back Bozeman Zion Trey played guard last year, like, so
they're pretty well covered there. They brought in back in
So like that's one that I think people would think
is the obvious answer. I just pulled up the r lads. Like,
to me, it's probably Corner. I think Corner would be
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the one if there's a just you know, I think
because to me, that's based on the deals they signed,
right the deal that they signed for Dante Jackson, for
Benjamin Saint just and then you know they draft those
guys at the back end and Mickens and try Bridges,
but those are special teams guys. You know, that's that's
kind of where they're going to be. So that might
be I think that might be the one that I
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could see having, you know that I could see them
doing something with. How about you?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I was gonna say that the Edge group just for
the sole reason that that Joey's gone, and I think
if you can add a seasoned vet to that room.
You know, obviously, listening to to Jesse talk about Canard
and just his production at South Carolina, you're hoping that
he makes an immediate impact. And we know about Touley
and Khalil obviously and Bud. But you know there's some
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guys like Zadaria Smith, von Miller, Matthew Judon. Judon was
a raven, you know, so Joe Ortiz has familiarity with him.
So I'm thinking of just like like a veteran in
kind of the same mold of Bud Dupree last year
when they got Bud, I think post draft and a
veteran that you can maybe count on throughout the course
of a seventeen game season that doesn't have to play
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a ton, but can it kind of add that veteran
leadership to the room. And there are some guys out
there now, I do think that over.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
The next couple of mourners out there still right, aren't there?
I felt the same way kind of about because like
it's interesting, right, you still got Amari Cooper and Gabe
Davis just got cut, and Keenan Allen's out there, Agalore's
out there. I mean, you still got dudes out there
at at wide receiver. That's probably the one that's that's
got I mean, well you look in teior line and
you got Brandon Scherff still out there. You know, Will Hernandez,
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Jack Mason. I mean there's guys that are veterans, but
and you.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Mentioned that he's surprising to me, Money Sheriff is surprising
because he's been he's been pretty durable, like you know,
pro Bowl caliber guard.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean look at corners, right, obviously we know
a Sante junior, but Rasoul Douglas, Mike Hilton, Steph Gilmore,
Kendall Fuller, Like there's a lot of dude Jack Jones there,
you know, all with different issues, but like, to me,
that's one where I could totally see them, you know,
plucking a guy on a on a low number and
you know they just like the culture, want to work
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with Clink and coach Minner and coach Clink and coach
Minner and and Harbaugh, and I could I could see
that being one.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
It reminds me of the I think the points you
brought up to Jesse about just kind of using that
that recruiting chip to use Puna Ford as that example
of like, hey, you know, we can we can get
you your next deal here, we can develop you, we
can maximize your potential. And I think at this stage
in free agency, guys are looking for that, right they're
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on the streets right now for a reason, and you know,
they want to go into a program where you can
develop and maybe get that next contract, whether it's with
the Chargers or somewhere else. And I think that they
have proven with guys like Fulton and Ford and you know,
Elijah getting that deal, that this is a program that
can really maximize your potential. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I think for the free agents too, it's you got
to remember that's a two way street. So they're going
to be looking at all of their potential opportunities and
probably an incentive laden contract and where am I going
to have the best shot to win a job? Or
I can get my snaps, I can work on getting
my production. And if I'm signing a low base number
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with you know, a couple million bucks and incentives like
that's you know, how do I get those incentives by
getting on the field. And I think when you look
at the corner room, think about the injury to you know,
the reason that Cam was dealing with last year, and
then you look at the deals that were signed in
Saint Jus and Jackson and you're like, okay, I could
I could pop in there, and I feel like I
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get a real fair shake at at getting some meaningful
snaps and maybe even earning an outside you know or
you know, in an outside corner slot starting position. If
things really work.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Out, sure it makes a ton of sense. And then
some of these veterans, you know, some of these guys
want to win a ring and they're looking for the
best situation where they can actually contend for a Super Bowl,
and I think some Vets may view the Chargers as
one of those teams. Let's move on here to Forest Price. Obviously,
there are Bolts fans all over the world. We have
the Diehard Bolt Club, Bolt Pride that are passionate about
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our beloved Chargers. How do you think the club interacts
with its out of state fans and what do you
think could be done to bring us closer to you? Well,
it's a good question. I see Chargers fans at all
these away games. We do a segment on CBS Bolts
on Road and a couple of times, I think it
was Denver and Vegas, maybe a couple other places. There
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are these these fan clubs that are from Denver or
from Las Vegas, and they are there for the game.
So I do think that the team does as much
as they possibly can, and these these opposing markets, we
obviously feel the love. I know, like I remember Arizona
a couple of years ago, Bunny where they had won
in the last second and it felt like the entire
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State Farm Stadium was filled the powder blue.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, you know, now in twenty twenty five, it's a
lot easier for people to do it on their own, right.
You can get that word out through social media and
everybody can meet up somewhere. I think the one challenge is,
you know, it's it's a business trip, and it's an
incredibly important business trip for the Chargers, so it's hard
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for them to be like, hey, yeah, we'll come out
on a Friday night and bring a player with us.
Like that's not going to happen. These guys have a
regimented schedule, meetings, treatment, meal, curfew, know, Friday and Saturday.
So it's not like they're just kind of hanging out
and running around town. It's it's a full on, forty
eight hour in out, win a football game, stay healthy,
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get home. So as far as the front off, you know,
like the as far as like the folks that do
social media, those departments and community interaction, Yeah, I suppose
there's stuff, and I'm always happy, you know. I always
try to engage before we go out somewhere. If if
we can find someone's like, oh I'll be here, We'll
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be there. Like you said, Chris, we always walked the
field before and chat with folks. But in terms of
setting up an official event, I think it's harder. Like
when we went to when we went to England, right,
we had that huge Chargers party with like four thousand
people because it was it was on like Thursday, you know,
we didn't play till Sunday. I think that was Thursday
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night if I remember right. So it's like, yeah, that works.
You know, you can get away with that because you've
got three days before or you're actually kicking off and
playing a football game.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah. I remember in Mexico City too, we had that
awesome fan party. It was great. I'm sure Brazil will
be similar in week one, but it's it's just it
is fun to see Charger fans in different parts of
the country, and it's great fascinating to see how many
there are in certain parts of the country too. They
go down to like South Florida or Arizona. Always a
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lot of powder Blue. So let's go to Jake, Jake Karence.
What's taking the Rashawn extension so long to get sorted
out and what are the chances of the NFL giving
US Rams Chargers in Australia next year. Well, the schedule
lines up as the Chargers of the Road team, so
it's certainly one of the possibilities. It'd be pretty funny
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and ironic that the two teams playing it's so by
going to Australia. But the Rashawn I don't know about you, buddy,
I'm not really worried about the Rashawn Slater extension. He's
one of the best left tackles in football. I think
Joe Ortiz and company are well aware of that, and
I'm sure that will get sorted out.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
When it gets sorted out, Yeah, you know, it's Look,
it's probably going to be a market changing deal, right,
he sees an all pro and when you're at that level,
typically what your agent wants is I mean, look, I
think it's a tough position for both sides. Right, You've
got market setting deals, you've got a salary cap that
took a huge jump, and you've got now players that
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are making a much larger percentage of the cap than
we had just last year, Like the Jamar Chase deal
just dwarfed the previous wide receiver deal. So I think
that's so you have agents and that's their job that say, Okay,
well here's the percentage that the top wide receiver is taking.
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And if we look at what the top wide receiver
had when Tristan Wurst signed his deal, this is what
he got. So now the deal isn't twenty eight, it's
thirty two. And I think when you're in Ed maguire
and Georg t situations like, well, yeah, but the top
deal is still you know, twenty nine, and that's hard
to get around. It's, you know, when you're talking about
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that much money and then one side wants still a
couple million more, it just gets tricky. Do I feel
great about it? I don't. I wish it were done
already because I just feel like Rashan's the kind of
guy that would just say, hey, man, just get it done.
Like you know, he and Herbert are so close. I
feel like he loves it here, and I would assume
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just kind of knowing, you know, you look at Baltimore
and the fact that they had Jonathan Ogden for all
those years they now just you know, everybody thought Ronnie
Stanley was going to get out of the building and
sign a massive deal with New England because they had
all that money in need of the left tackle, and
they were like, absolutely not, You're not going anywhere. So
it's he comes from an organization where offensive line is
incredibly important. It's a head coach that has preached offensive
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line is a weapon, tip of the spear, and it's like, okay,
you know this, let's figure this out. Man. I So
I don't know, but I would assume that that's the
hang up is it's a few million bucks because of
the big jump in cap the huge jump in wide receive.
You know, non quarterback salaries took a massive jump this
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year with Miles Garrett and with Jamar Chase, and because
that happened, it changes the economics. And I'm sure each
side is kind of digging in like, no, this is sorry, man,
this is the business of the NFL, and this is
how we do it. And you've got one side and
Rashaan and his agent that are you know, holding that
number according to that calculus, and then you've probably got
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Joe Ortiz and Ed and that front office that are saying, well,
you know, this is a little more in line with
with where he is. Look at what fill in the blank,
you know, Werf's and Williams and all these guys are
making and I think that's how you get hung up.
But remember this happened with Joey, this happened with Derwin,
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like and those were market setting deals, right, Joey became
the highest paid non quotquarterback in the league. Derwin became
the highest paid safety by a pretty good margin. And
it took a minute, and so I think it's probably
just going to take a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Also, there's no urgency right now, you know, with training
camp and those types of deadlines. I think Breed a
little bit more urgency because you want the guys in camp.
But for Shawn right now, he's a proven commodity, you
know who he is. If he misses some time in
the off season, then it is what it is. But
I do think that once training camp gets closer and
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then you think about this, this is another reason why
you know, you look at free agency, why there wasn't
this spending spree by the Chargers, Like they know that
they have to pay for Shaun Slater. They know that
they have to eventually pay Derwin James his next deal,
So I do think that all that figures in. I
just I can't see a guy that is that good
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at a position that coach Harball values so much ever
leaving Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
And yeah, I'm with you. I just it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense. You've got Justin Herbert's your quarterback.
The last thing you want to do is is have
an issue with his left tackle, of course, And you
know what, I'll be honest, like, I considering how much
flux there is at those two positions center and left guard, Like,
I think you got to get him in there, man, Like,
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this is not a guy you want missing. You want
to get all five of those guys so you can
figure out, you know, like George, he's has talked about,
you know, we were just going to play the best five.
He's like guard tackle. That was kind of what they
preached last year, right with Trey, and is he going
to be your right guard? And he's like, they like,
we just want the best five. So if you're going
to be working through all those combinations, I'm sure you
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know that that they're gonna want to They're gonna want
to get that. They're gonna want to do it with Rashawan.
You know, they want to figure out who slots in
best next to him, if Zion's moving to center. Like,
there's so many moving parts just with those two positions
that I think having Rashawn in there is it's got
to be a you know, coach dev and coach Hardwick.
I'm sure like, come on, guys, let's let's get this
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sort of out.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You want that time on task, especially in training camp
with those starting five guys, whoever they're going to be.
All right, let's go to Peter Padre. From your perspective,
where does Herbert need to improve? Understanding he needs to
help around him, where he can stand to where can
he stand to improve? I struggle between games like the
Raiders four years ago where he put the team on
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his back and the Houston playoff loss. So I was
thinking about this one, buddy, and I heard Porties in
Hardball loud and clear after that playoff loss and really
kind of going into the off season, and really their
actions have done the talkies like we need to give
Justin Herbert more help, and they did that with Harris
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and Hampton in the backfield, and drafting Trey Harris and
bringing back Mike Williams and adding Tyler Conklin and Makai
Becton to kind of further boltster that offensive line.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So yeah, I do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, Herbert, like anybody, probably needs to improve. But I
just he's so good and he had a tough playoff
game in Houston and the only other playoff game he's
been in Jacksonville, there have twenty seven nothing could run
the football in the second half. So it's hard for
me to say exactly where Justin can improve. I'd like
to just see year two of Jim Harball with this
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running game that was I think according to PFF twenty
ninth in the NFL last year. They've completely remade it,
and I think that's gonna help Justin.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, look at this point, if we're talking about what
can he improve, we're picking nets, right. Yeah, he's incredible
and he's created everything. And I know that sounds like, Oh,
it's the Chargers Weekly podcast, so of course they're going
to say that. So yeah, if you want me to
pick something, it's running the ball. It's you know, I
think a lot of times when you see him at
that mesh point. I feel like there's been some real
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opportunity for him to pull it, keep it and go,
and I'd love to see more of that. I think
that's to me, that's it, Like that's truly the only
thing I've always talked about, the quarterback sneak. But I
think some some quarterbacks are with it, some don't like it,
which I totally understand. I've said that repeatedly. You know,
I know there's some folks out there that that view
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it as mandatory. I don't, just because I've talked to
quarterbacks and I kind of know what, you know, what
they what they say about that play and what a
pain in the ass it can be, and how much
pounding you're taking when you get in there because guys
are getting the tee off on you and taking free
shots on you. So I get that part of it.
But yeah, I think if I had a point to
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one thing, it's like, yeah, those on those mesh point,
on those options, I'd love to see him just kind
of keep it, you know, and just to get the
defense on their heels a little bit more. I feel
like he can he can set that tone of hey man,
I'm gonna run, so you better be ready for it,
and you better know that that's coming. I think you
just need to set that tone early just to sort
of help get the defense off kilter a little bit
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and have them thinking about it the whole game.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That was the most surprising part of that Wildcard game.
Zero rushing attempt zero from Justin Herbert. And I go
back to that Christmas game when the Ravens played the Texans,
and in Lamar right from the beginning, just running all
over the Texans and not having that element to your
offense I think certainly hurt the Chargers. So his ability
and I just go back to his Rose Bowl victory
and just running all over the field in that game.
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He's super bowl super capable of it, especially in a
Greg Roman offense. So yeah, running the football I think
would be a nice wrinkle more consistently in twenty twenty five,
for sure. All Right, let's see here, money, let's keep
this thing rolling, Angel Lira, what will be the starting
O line combination in Week one of the season and
what will be the starting GO line combination in week seventeen?
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Good question, Angel, I hope it's the same, right, you
hope it's the same. I think All and Slater are
pretty much locked in. I think Mackai Beckon at right
guards pretty much locked in. And then we have I
think a lot of competition at center and left guard,
with Zion potentially moving to center. The addition Andre James Boseman,
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you have Trey Pipkins in the mix. Still, what do
you think.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I think it's going to be the same, just backed
in replacing Trey. To me, that's what it is because
that allows Trey to be that swing, you know, to
go back to tackle if needed. Hopefully he's not, but
if he's needed like he did last year. You know
when when Slater went down and All went to the
left side and he popped up, I think he played
the right tackle that day if I remember right. So
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I think that makes to me, that's just what it
looks like. That's so why they brought Bradley Boseman back.
They like him. Everybody on the team loves him. We
talk about the makeup of an O line room and
how important it is to have those guys connected and
comfortable in chemistry. And while I know the pass protection
was a bit of a struggle, especially in that Houston
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Texans game, with Jamari there at right guard. I think
that's just the way it lines up. Even though they
didn't pick up Zion's fifty year option and they've talked
about trying him at center. I just he would really
have the wow coach Devln and Hardwick and Greg Roman
and Harbaugh to take that center spot, I think away
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from Bozeman because now you're moving two guys. Now you're
moving Boseman to guard and or maybe you know, maybe
it's Zion at center and Trey at left guy. I
just don't like to me, it just makes too much
sense draft capital wise, how highly they think of Zion
and they're just like, man, it's just it's so close,
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it's so close. Can we just get it to that
finish line?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
How close do you think the gap is between Bozeman
and Andre James, who has sixty starts in the NFL too,
And you know, over the last three years, actually four years,
seventeen starts, fifteen starts, sixteen starts, eleven starts in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah, it's tough because you look two years ago and
I know he graded out a lot better. Last year
was an abject failure for pretty much the Raiders offense. Period,
So it's kind of hard to stick that on somebody.
But at the same time, it's not a bad offensive
line group. And you know, he really struggled last year,
so I think that's I would be very surprised if
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he were able to beat Bozeman out. I think, you know,
if you go out and you sign Ryan Kelly for
ten million bucks, it's like, yeah, he's getting the starting job.
But I think you look at Andre James and he
was released by released by the Raiders, and the Chargers
gave him a very low, veteran minimum level deal. You know,
it's not it's not a you know, it helps to
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look at the money, like how much did they give him?
And is it like out here, let me pull up
the OTC right now he is. He is making one
point one million dollars. Uh. So it's not a deal
that says, oh yeah, this guy's coming in to compete
for that job. I mean at one point one, let's
see what's because Bradley, I think got he got a
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two year deal. So I'm guessing that Bradley got CANSI yeah,
Bradley's he's at one two, five to five base. But
so he's at he is at five million dollar cap
number this year, right, that's his cap number. Andre James
is one point one. What does that tell you? You
know that that tells you that competitors welcome. Yeah, that
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that Bradley's probably ahead of the game there for for center,
and I think Zion is going to play. They've got it.
They've invested a first round picking him. He's had flashes
of greatness and he struggled mightily. But because you have
both ends of that spectrum, they're trying to get him,
you know, toward that that greatness that we've seen at times.
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So that's just that's what I figure.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
We've We've addressed most of this question, but I'll just
ask this one. This is from Mario. Does it worry
you that we haven't fully addressed the interior offensive line,
which was clearly a major issue last season. Beckton was
a great signing, but that's one of three needs. Should
he be out for a game, we're right back to
where we started.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
That's fair. Yeah, I certainly think it's fair. Look that
Beckton signing was fantastic. It's a huge signing. So you
know you're not talking about and I thought Trey played
okay last year. Look, Trey could end up if it's
possible that he wins that guard spot. You know, he
played okay, you know, he played all right, and that's
what you needed offensive line. You just can't have bad.
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That's the thing. If you have bad, they're going to
find it and they're going to attack it relentlessly. All
you need when you have excellence great because now you
can find a way to help where you don't have excellence.
So you know, DJ says it all the time, as
long as you know, and to use a term that
he has, he's like, as long as you don't have
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a tomato can, you're fine. But if you have one,
that's when you got a problem. If you can, you
don't need to be exceptional at all five positions. You
just got to be good enough. And when you have
Alton Slater at the edges, you're exceptional there and that
certainly helps a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I think it's a lot to ask, you know,
Branson Taylor to come in and compete at one of
those guard spots in year one, and the fact that
they didn't really address interier offensive line in the draft,
it makes you look at some of these free agents,
and we mentioned Brandon Sheriff Shaq Mason, will Hernandez Dalton Reisner.
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You know there's guys out there still, But to your
point earlier, are they going to come in and actually
compete and beat out the guys that are currently on
this roster?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I just you know, I look at the combined nine
million bucks between Bozeman and Zion. You know, five million
for Bozeman is his cap number this year. Four point
six for Zion is his cap number for this year.
Like that to me, says, okay, there's your center in
your guard. You know, Mackay at seven and a half million,
obviously old seven and a half million, Slater at nineteen million.
They're sure you know those are the top five offensive
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line salary numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Just that's what it looks like to me. Yeah, all right,
let's keep it rolling. This is from Nuthouse. What a
great name. QJ. Going to be better next year, Gonna
be putting a role where he's going to excel. I say,
his stats will suffer because there's more cooks in the kitchen,
but he will look even better than last year. Raiders
game was not an outlier. I tend to agree with
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with Nuthouse and the fact that he was I think
relied upon a little bit too much last year. And
with the additions of Trey Harris and Mike Williams, maybe
Q can settle into a role where he kind of
has a specialty role in this offense and isn't look
to do maybe more than he I guess I just
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feel like this past year money he was asked to
do maybe a little bit too much.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, look, I've said it, and it's not a slight
He's just not an X. That's not what Q is.
You know. Q's a Z. He's a good see, you know,
and if you can get him, you know, when you
have Mike, that's who I think you're starting three will be.
Michael be the X, you know, Mike Williams, that'll be
your slot. Q will be the Z. And considering you
know Mike's age, Mike's history, You've got Trey Harris ready
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to take some of those reps and if something should
happen to step in because Trey's an X, you know.
Now the interesting one is KeAndre Lambert Smith with that
four to three speed makes it interesting as a Z.
Get him outside if he's able to get off press.
Now you got four to three speed running down the
field and that helps a lot. I mean, so I
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totally get and I think that's kind of where the
conversation sort of comes in with how does this wide
receiver room get built. I don't think there's any question
with the chemistry and the production that Mike Williams and
Justin Herbert have had in the past, that he's going
to be your starting X, you know, no question about it.
And Ladd obviously is going to be your starting slot,
and Q, I think will be your starting Z. And
then you look behind him, you know that Darius Davis
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and Trey Trey Harris and and Andre Lambert Smith are
going to make the team. So they're six. Now how
many wide receivers are carrying, you know, And that's where
it gets kind of interesting with and Rice and you know,
Jalen Johnson and some of these guys that you know,
you think about last year with Simmy and and dudes
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that we thought were on the roster bubble that made it,
and you know, this year, it doesn't feel like that
at all. It feels like, Okay, it's it's it's it's
a pretty it's a deep room and it's gonna be
you know, it's Jalen Rager. I forgot they resigned Jalen Rager.
Like that's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be a
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tough room. It's gonna be a tough room to crack
and make the fifty three good money.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I always go back to Herbert's rookie season and you
know we've we've mentioned the names t Billy and Jalen Guy.
You wonder how Justin is going to mesh with some
of these young rookies immediately. Sometimes it clicks really quickly.
Look at lad last year exactly. Look at that, you
know with Trey Harris, maybe he gets on the field
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sooner than later. You mentioned KeAndre and his speed. Uh
I love I love the Gats and U pick up.
You know we didn't get to do that talk about
day three. Gats another kind of athletic tight end that
you add to the Disley and Conkland room. And I
just I am fascinated to see how Justin will kind
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of pick up with some of these new guys and
how quickly that chemistry starts. And you know the fact
that you that you had a whole season with Q
in such a feature role last year. I think that
will help Quentin in year three as well.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, that's the other thing too about wide receiver. How
often were they in thirteen? I mean it's a team
that was running twelve like crazy, you know, like they
I should say thirteen. How often were they in eleven?
Like how often they have three receivers out there? Like
this is a team that was in twelve? You know
which is you know, first number backs, second number tight ends.
I know all of you probably know it, but for
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those that don't, that's what it is. So a lot
of two tight ends and I mentioned number thirteen, they
ran a lot of thirteen where you know, you could
argue that Matt Locke or however you want to classify him,
you know, or twenty two. You know, if Tucker Fisk
is playing fullback, Mattlock's playing fullback, they're running twenty two,
they're running thirteen, They're running twelve like that's just what
they've run. And with Gadsden, that'll be interesting right where
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it'll feel like thirteen. But the third tight end is
lined up in the slot and he's a dude that
can freak and get after it and is an athlete,
and so that's there's gonna be some real cool combinations
that Greg Roman's going to have to work with, you know,
for this, and you think about sort of how he
did it in Baltimore, you know, with all those tight
ends and how effective they were, And it's gonna be fun.
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Gadsten's a It's gonna be a fun one, no doubt
about it. Now. Look, he's probably not gonna get a
ton of snaps because of the Conklent signing and just
how good Conklin is, how he's got great hands, and
he's certainly a great athletic tight end, you know, a
really good athletic tight end. I think he fits perfectly
with Fisk and Disley, So he's going to get the
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majority of those snaps, but it'll be fun to kind
of sprinkle those in there from time to time.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
One of the fun themes of the last couple of
years with Joe Ortiz, he's identified players with NFL fathers,
right with Joe alt in Round one last year and
and gas that I remember him as a dolphin. And
our next question Mickens. Remember Ray Mickens with the Jets.
I this is from Kevin Adrian. I think Nickens is
the clear replacement for a low heat when his contract
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expires this season. I think he's going to get plenty
of starting snaps his rookie year and might leap Jefferson
on the depth chart. Thoughts, I think the Chargers only
roster Ford safeties on their fifty three and twenty four Well, Kevin,
I think it starts on special teams for mister Mickens.
He's gonna have to kind of earn his way onto
the field. And you know, I love the confidence and
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im and I think I just hearing Jesse talk about
him last week, it's it sounds like it's a great
signing in the sixth round, But I think it's gonna
take a little time to kind of crack that depth
chart in the safety room right now.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, And I mean you look at Mickens and you know,
in terms of like a replace meant for a looie,
I think he's probably better closer to the ball, you know,
in terms of but he can do it all like
he's but but you started with the perfect way to
set the tone is this is this is a Ryan
Ficken pick. You know, get me Bridges, get me Mickens.
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I think Canard in the fourth like these are guys
that are going to be special teamers, and they're going
to need to replace all these dudes you know that
left and they lost. You know when you lose nickname
and you're talking about one of the best special teams
players in the league loss, And so like, these are
the guys that he's going to have to coach up.
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And you know, Dean Leonard's still there, and you still
have Quiet, you still have some guys, but like Chris
Rump is gone, and I know he was out all
last year, but he loves having that athletic d ND
edge kind of player. That's probably where Canard fits in
a little bit because of how he's going to be
used as as sort of a DPR role as as
opposed to a three down lineman. So I would assume
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he's going to get these They're they're hoping he can
be a core four guy. So I think that's where
it starts. In terms of Aloe's contract, I think it's
don't don't underestimate how important he is to this team
and how much this team loves him, and and you
know it can't all be sizzle. Aloe's Aloe is is
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I like to say, you know, he's the grout. You
get your focus on the tile, but you also got
to have the grout to hold the tile together. And
that's what Aloe is man. He just he connects, He
connects things really well. He's a smart player, has a
nose for the ball as tough as nails. And and
so I don't think just I don't think you assume
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that he's just going to be gone when his contracts up.
I think he's a guy that they I could totally
see them, you know, unless unless Mackings flashes, you know,
unless Bridges flashes. Is you know, like that's that's kind
of how these things work.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Aloe's one of those rare players too, who who translates
to another administration.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
He he was drafted by Tom Telesco, and you would
have thought that Joe Ortiz and Jim Harball drafted him
as high as they think of him on the field
and off the field. So I agree with you in
terms of a LOHI and his impact in that secondary
And and Durwin loves him, and Darwin loves playing with
him because.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'm always in the right position. So it's a great
safety group. I mean, it's it's one of the true
strengths of this team is Molden Gilman in Durwin. I mean,
it's it's as good as safety trio as you have
anywhere in the league. So the idea that you're just
going to break that up and Mickens is going to
start earning some snaps, Like you're talking about breaking up
a group that, if you were to rank them, is
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right up there at the top. It's not something I
would want to see, no, But I.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like Kevin's thinking because he's he's looking at the fifth
round last year with Cam harton tarhek Still and guys
who are playing a lot. But uh, and it's a
great one by Kevin because a Lowie gets hurt. You know.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lowe has gotten hurt, you know, and missed a game
or two every year. So that's that's why it's it's
certainly a great point to bring up. You've got to
have some depth there.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, And I you know, they lost Elijah in the
Patriots game and that was a big blow in the
playoff game. So all right, let's keep this rolling. Double
M three questions. Who are your guys' top three guesses
of the udfas to make the roster? Who would be
your surprise cut or trade before the season starts, and
who is one trade free agent signing you think the
(36:23):
Bolts should make around this time of time of training camp,
preseason as far as surprise cut trades, you know, just
just looking at how a lot of these contracts are
set up. Money, I don't really see unless I'm missing somebody.
I don't see a player that's making like a ton
of money that that we're going to be like completely
shocked if they get cut or if they get traded, Like,
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I don't see that player on this roster, do you.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I just yeah, I just would prefer not to answer that.
You're talking about somebody losing their job. We're talking about
somebody getting fired. So yeah, for me, that's not one
I'm gonna to jump into. Just not comfortable doing it,
to be honest. And I don't And I'm with you,
I don't. I don't know who who that would be.
And I just don't see I.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Don't see it one of those. I don't see one
of those like camp cut candidates on the on the
roster right now. The we kind of talked about this
in terms of a free agent signing that the Bolts
should make as training camp gets closer, and I think
a lot of that is kind of contingent on injuries
and you know what happens in camp and in terms
of adding somebody. But if you're going coming in with
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the clean slate, you know, I mentioned as you mentioned
corner before, I don't think that really changes.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, and just the udfas that he talked about, you know,
there's always seems like there's always one, you know, or
two or something along those lines. Last year, you know,
the bell of the ball was Tremon Morris brash that
everyone got excited about really flashed. Just kind of going
through it to me just based on you know, look,
I think about what are the two positions that we
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talked about, right, Garmin Randolph, who's got a bunch of production,
COVID guy, six year edge player, all the measurables, you know,
he could flash. And then you know Nico Reid the
corner out of Oregon again a ton of experience and
a ton of production. And I just kind of look
at that position group that and and the special teams.
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Like I said, Coach Ficken likes corners and he likes
those super athletic edge players for special teams as well,
so I think it's those two. There's a lot of
people that have been asking about Raheem Sanders the running back,
and I just I and look, yeah, sure, it's a
team that likes to run the ball. But then I
just look what's in front of them, you know. I mean,
you're talking about Najie Harris and Amari and Hampton and
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Hassan Haskins. Is you know, their short yardage special teams guy,
he's he's a lock for the team. And you know,
whatever what they asked him to do last year he
was great at So is is Raheem gonna Are they
gonna carry four backs?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
And a fullback like it? So I don't. And then
there's you know, we've we've talked about him a bunch,
Steve O. Klatt's you know guy who's played fullback, you know.
And I know they love Scott Mattlock and they love
his development and he's certainly turned into a heck of
a player. But if you have a guy that's been
a full back for a couple of years now, I mean,
he's a tight end full back hybrid, but he's a
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dude that likes to mix it up, then that's one
that I could see get interesting if they're like ooh's.
So those are probably the three. I think Reed, Randolph
and Klotts would be the three i'd circle.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I'll give you one more, Jordan Oladokin a corner from
Bowling Green, and these are just kind of I know,
the competition isn't the same as the sec of the
Big Ten, Big twelve, but one of three quarterbacks in
college football who allowed zero touchdowns number two and fewest
allowed receiving yards two hund nineteen and an opposing passer
rating of eighteen point four plus he took the ball
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away a bunch, So you never know how that competition
is going to translate to the NFL. But again, I
just think of that marriage of Jesse Minter and the
way he's developed quarterbacks. Maybe he's the guy to watch them.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, great point. They love production. Right, If you produce,
it's clear you know how to play football exactly, all.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right, Alex. Do you know if je Ortiz or coach
Harbaugh ever listened to Chargers weekly. I don't know. I
think they probably have. They probably have better things to do,
more important things to do than to listen to us.
Bunny though.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, my answer to that is, I hope not. I'd
be it'd be flattering if they did. But I think
I don't know. I don't know. If you asked me,
would you rather they do or don't, I'd probably answer
I'd rather they That would be my answer to that one.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
All right, Ferdie June your two questions, what's going on
with Ezekiel Elliott? But nothing Zeke. I remember seeing Zeke
in the building the day or two days before the
Wildcard game, and Zeke was a signing. If they beat
the Texans, maybe you play him in Kansas City. But
I just don't know if he has a future on
the Chargers this year.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, definitely.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Should we expect to see Brendan Rice on the roster
this year? And you kind of went through that, you
went through all the wide series. I have him as
like why receiver seven right now behind lad Trey, Mike Quintin, KeAndre,
Jalen Rieger and Brendon.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
At that point. Yeah, I mean you look at you know,
they carried six wide receivers last year. That's that's you know,
I'm going let me see only go to nine nine two? Uh,
they did carry seven. They had Rice, remember on the
roster out of camp, so he broke camp, making it.
So in September they had seven, let's go to October,
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they were down to six November six, December six, January five.
So there that's you know, you got the two draft
picks that are making it. You got Q. You know
what you got Darius. And then the question comes with
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Darius Davis. You know, as we talked about him last year,
had a couple of election plays on the field. He's
got blazing speed, He's a great returner. KeAndre Lambert Smith
has no special teams experience. You don't want Ladd back
there returning punts and kicks and take an extra punishment already,
you know beyond what he is. So to me, Darius
makes it. So there's your six man, you know, Mike
(42:19):
Trey at the X. You got Darius Davis, Lad McConkie,
and your two rookies. All right, I already said Trey.
So you have Trey Harris, Mike Williams, Lad McConkie, Quinton Darius.
And it's my problem. Why am I so stupid? It's
like I can't make this easy on myself. Yeah, that's it.
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It's Darius Davis, Lad McConkie, Tray Harris KeAndre Quinton and
Mike there's I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I didn't even I'd even I think of Darius as
like like this offensive weapon. Then I didn't even have it.
So yeah, Brenda Rice would be eight.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Well so you're thinking, oh, you're thinking Brendan as because right,
because then you like the next group is Brendan Rice,
Jalen Rager, Jalen Johnson. There's your seven eight nine, right, Yeah,
you know that's that's your seven eight nine. If you're
gonna carry seven, those three guys duking it out. I
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just especially with the tight ends they're gonna carry. They're
gonna carry four tight ends Disley, Conklin, Fisk and Gadsden,
they're gonna carry four, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
And then you I was gonna say Brendan was only
active for three games last season, three offensive snaps, so yeah,
you know, unfortunately doesn't really have any time on task
with Justin in a game.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, but look, he can still jump up and win
a gig, no doubt. I just feel like those those
two rookies are gonna make it. And when you put
those two rookies with the other four, you're at six
and it's just it's it's a numbers issue, and nobody
plucked him off the practice squad. So you know, if
that's where he is and you get a call up
and any flashes, then great, here we go.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yep, all right, a few more money laser beaming. Now
that we know a boy Be has put on some weight,
is there any buzz going around about what the significance
of his role is going to look like? Seems like
a great opportunity for him to step up. That was
one of the key takeaways from the pod last week.
Is a boy be put on twenty pounds after the
season and you know what does coach say? Competitors welcome,
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you bring in hand, you bring in Jones, a lot
of potential opportunity defensive tackle this upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, look, it's wide open. You know, it's not like
they signed Milt Williams or anything. You know, these are
all guys that are going to be competing for that rotation.
Obviously Caldwell, I would suspect Is and tier Tart are
are going to be in there. But yeah, can a
boy be jump ahead at Sean Hann you know Tito
(44:52):
kind of how does that all line up? Yeah? I
think it's wide open for him to get in there.
And you know how much they like to rotate those guys.
I mean, think back to last year, you really just
kind of had Poona as you're one constant, and then
after that it was sort of that rotation of Tito,
of Morgan, of you know, Tuley kicking inside it put
Joey kicking. It's like they rotated the heck out of
that group. Tierra ended up. Remember Tier started the season
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just getting a couple of snats here and there, and
then by the end of the season he was out
there all the time. So I think a boyd B
is going to be in that mix for sure. Based
on what coach said.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Uh the lago thanks for all the hard work this
offseason fellas what was your favorite move of the offseason
thus far, whether it's free agency, draft, et cetera, And
who has the biggest impact for the team in twenty
twenty five? What are you thinking to start? I was
just gonna say, o, Marion Hampton, I think that he's that.
(45:46):
You know, for for as much as the narrative had
been like, hey, let's get justin Herbert weapons, I think
Omarin Hampton is going to be the biggest weapon for
Justin in terms of the running game, and he reminds
me of a Saquon Barkley type and that he can
really carry the load in a game, and you know,
he's just the total package. So between between him and
(46:10):
I think getting a guy like Trey Harrison, I just
I think that his potential the first two rounds in
the draft really got me excited about the offense.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah I'm gonna and it's just because I was so
convinced it was gonna happen and I for whatever reason,
I don't know why, I couldn't have been more wrong.
You didn't even get an interview. But I just think
the fact that jesse Menter's back, Like I was convinced,
I'm like, this guy between college and the NFL is
gonna get interviewed and he's so good in the room
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and he's gonna get a job, And for whatever reason,
it didn't line up. So I think having him back
for another year after what he did last year man
is is huge. I just think it is huge for
this team to have that second year and that goes
for coach Roman too, like just another year of continuity
with both coordinators back, but just what Jesse was able
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to do with a number of guys on one year deals,
Let's drop him in, Like think about all the just
the one week of Eli Apple, the one week of
Marcus made the like, how good of a job? And
that's and it's beyond and I say coach Minner, but
it's it's everyone right, the fact that that Clink is back,
that Elston's back, that all of the Navarl Bowman are back,
like all these guys are back, Chrys O'Leary the safety
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coach has gone, you know, Fuller's in. But like there's
just continuity, man, And I think that goes a long
long way.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, in the defense obviously is so important to have
that that continuity and that consistency because the turnaround from
the year before Harball and mintser guide here to what
they did in their first year was just remarkable and
really a big reason why they won eleven games this year. Yeah,
we talk about it the Harball, the way that they play,
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It was really the defense because and that's why I
say Hampton and I would actually kind of plug in
Naje Harrows and Mackai Beckton and that too, is that
they are completely trying to remake the running game here,
and you know, JK had a really good bounce back year,
but collectively that running game just did not look like
a Jim Harball running game if you look at his
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history at Michigan and his time in the NFL with
the Niners. I think I mentioned earlier in the podcast,
PFF gave him a grade of twenty ninth in the
NFL in the running game. So when you bring in
Hampton and you bring in Harris, we talked about the
durability of both of those guys. Beckton a guy who
was a run greater for Sakuon Barkley. That's going to
(48:34):
help Justin Herbert. And I think that if you had
something like that going into a playoff game in twenty
twenty five, maybe that looks a little bit different because
they're going to play a different way and they're going
to have two guys in the backfield that just don't
miss starts. And I think that was that was the
biggest thing for me, is bringing a guy like Nauji
who has not missed the game in the NFL, and
(48:55):
bringing a young guy like Hampton, who, if it wasn't
for gent, would be the top running back.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
That's a great point. It's a great point, availability man,
because we saw when guys went down it was a
real struggle, especially JK. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
A couple more This is from Michael. Who do you
guys think the opponent will be for the Brazil game?
There was some chatter about Mahomes and Chiefs will want
to play in it, but I think it's the Texans
that makes the most sense. I don't know. I mean,
I think Pro Football Talk had a report that it
could be the Chiefs potential to the Chiefs, you think
it's the Chiefs. Yeah, so you so you would lose
(49:31):
that home game in so far and then play Patrick
Mahomes in Brazil? Which one.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
It's the way it has to be, you know, Chiefs.
Chiefs always get the Chargers on a short week. We
go there on a Thursday night. They never you know,
It's just just the way it is. And we know that.
You know Clark hunt as he's all about that, man,
He's all about it. And I think if the NFL,
you know, here's the Chiefs, say we'll go like great,
(49:55):
let's go. You know that's because that's I believe that's
a that's a streaming game. I think or it's a
peacock game.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
It's a peacock game, and it's a Friday peacock game
that they wanted. They want a big they want a
big team next to Herbert and the Chargers for sure.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, and I think that's think about what what Goodell's
I'll just just look at the look at the read
the tea leaves. You know, what did Goodell say around
the draft? He said, you know, we we expect to
have sixteen of these games a year, and it's another
revenue source where they can sell these sixteen games you buy,
we're selling the international package. You get all the international games.
(50:33):
Who wants it, and that's what they're going to do.
And so this is a showcase. And to have the
first one be justin Herbert Patrick Mahomes, you know, and
a standalone in a market that's only four hours you know,
it's only one hour ahead of New York time, four
hours ahead of LA Like, yeah, we can PLoP this
(50:55):
thing in primetime and we're rolling Man on a Friday
night and let's go sell this package and make billions
and billions of dollars more. I love it.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Yeah, I would prefer it be the Raiders. I think
Jim Harball versus Pete Carroll Week one in Brazil, Silver
and Black versus the Chargers would be fun.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
But yeah, just not. They need that game to cook.
Look at last year it was Eagles Packers. You know,
it's two playoff teams. It's gonna be too. That's why
I thought maybe the Texans would make sense. But there's
just not enough sizzle. I mean no, Herbert Mahomes is
serious sizzle and that's what they want. You know, before
the international games were here, you go, here's here's two
(51:34):
bottom feeders whatever. And now it's just totally changed where
they want big markets or really good teams with superstars
and that's what that's what the international game is now.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, it's not it's not six am on the West
Coast on Sunday either. This is this is the first
Friday of the NFL season, So you're right, it needs
to be star power last one.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Where Where are we? Where are we?
Speaker 2 (52:01):
Where are we? This is from Jason Delgado with the
tag on JK. What do you think the chances are
that he'll be back? Do you agree? If he does
come back, it would be our best backfield? Says LT
Turner and Sprolls probably would be. But I don't know.
The Melvin Gordon Austin Eckler year in twenty eighteen was
pretty good. But you know, I'm happy for JK if
(52:22):
he does come back. I do hope that he gets
an opportunity to actually it'd get a little bit more
playing time somewhere else, just for me professionally, you.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Know, for him, I hope he doesn't come back because
it would mean that he's coming back on a one
point seven million dollar deal, you know, So I've got
to believe someone out there is willing to flip him
three or four million bucks or you know, something along
those lines, based on what he showed last year. Unless
the medicals are just like that, that move, that move
is just rolling the dice that you can get a compick.
(52:51):
Let's let's see if we can roll the dice and
a team, you know, he clears medicals and maybe a
team gets an injury early and they need it back
and they sign him, you know, and he goes out
and performs and now here's a compick for you. Here's
a fifth, here's a fourth, here's a sixth, whatever, and
that that that's just what that deal screams to me,
is there's an opportunity for them because he made it
(53:11):
through the first wave to get a compick back. That's
all that was, Yep, because he's gonna get out, He's
going to get an offer for more money than that.
I just I've got to believe he is again.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Once you get to training camp, that's when you know,
especially these running backs, there's like there's I think Nick
Chubb is out there. A couple of the guys are
out there too right now. So sometimes injuries in mini
camp and training camp will will kind of speed up
that process. Anything else, money, We got Joe Ortiz next week.
Schedule released next week. So to your earlier point at
the beginning, Man, it never stops. We'll maybe get a
(53:44):
brief lull in June and then back at it for
an early training camp.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Exactly looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Man, cool, all right? For money, I'm Chris. This has
been charges weekly
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