Chargers Weekly: How Should Bolts Approach Round 1 of Draft?

On this episode of Chargers Weekly, Bolts radio play-by-play announcer Matt “Money” Smith and host Chris Hayre recap the latest news involving LA and the entire NFL. Breaking down how the Bolts should approach round 1 of the 2025 NFL Draft, they discuss why a tight end might provide more value than a wide receiver, evaluate how the quarterback class led by the University of Miami’s Cam Ward and Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders impacts the Chargers, and why selecting a top cornerback could pay dividends in Defensive Coordinator Jesse Minter’s defense.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Late fifteen to ten touched up.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of
Chargers Weekly. We are two weeks away from the twenty
twenty five NFL Draft, as always, joined by the Voice
of the Chargers, Matt Muney, Smith and Buddy.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
A lot of my drafts.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I've been digging into that Beast by Dane Brugler that
I think was released either today or yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Anyway, been diving into that.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Just that thing is just an awesome tool for what
we do on a week to week basis here and
I just can't believe it's here.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Man.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Two more weeks, Yeah, two weeks from today. Dane always
nice enough to join us when we're at the combine,
a great resource and free plug for him because it's
worth it and we don't get it for free. I
subscribe to The Athletic. Love what Popper does over there
and what Dane does, and if you're a football junkie,

(01:00):
is nothing better than the Beast. The PFF stuff is
awesome and it's a great tool. And the NFL dot
Com draft profiles that our friend Lanzerline puts together are great.
To get a thumbnail, man, I don't know how long
it takes or how many hours, And I mean it's
got to be six months. I would guess you're talking
about trends and production and production scores and athletics score

(01:24):
like it has ever. I've got Team Mac up right
now because I I've seen a couple mocks where he's
been there at twenty two for the Chargers, and I
just I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I don't get what's going on there to just dig
into that thing for one second. And yes, it's I
think it's a no brainer if he's there to get
that explosive player with something this offense needs. But I
just can't envision it. And like when you go through
all the stuff that he has in the Beast, it's like, yeah,
the last two seasons, he's got more receiving yards, more
first downs, more twenty plus yard catches than any other

(01:57):
player in college football. And we know what why receivers
are getting paid now at the top of the market
forty million bucks. Like, how is that guy gonna be
there at twenty two?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I can't see that. But the Beast awesome and the
t MAC profile in there leads me to think that
he's really in play at like number four for New
England if Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter are both going
to be off the board.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think this is just such a unique draft because
you look at the quarterbacks and I wrote down some
things that like, Okay, how do the Chargers like funnel
into this? And the first thing is the quarterbacks, Like,
so Dane has cam Ward is his twelfth overall player,
He's got shador as his thirty fourth overall, and Jackson
Dart at his forty ninth overall.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Buddy, there's a very strong possibility all.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Three of those guys are going to go before the
Chargers select at twenty two overall, which is a great
thing for LA because it just kind of pushes up
more talent.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then you look at the tackles. I think he
has four offensive tackles in his top twenty three.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
If four tackles go and three quarterbacks go and the
linebacker goes that he has number fourteen overall, then we're
talking about the deepest defensive line draft in maybe ever.
The running back class which is deep, and I don't
see them going for a running back in the first round,
especially when you look at Camp Scataboo is his twelfth

(03:19):
running back. It just shows you like the different flavors
that they have in terms of that position. And I
just I go back to what Jayden Daniels and bow
Nix and Michael Pennix and Caleb Williams and Drake may
look like last year.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
This isn't that yet. There's enough desperate teams that three
quarterbacks could go money.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, the key I think is and they're talking about
maybe Schador being there for the Pittsburgh Steelers at twenty
that would not be something that Chargers would want. I
think you'd want to see him go in the in
the top ten. And then you know whether or not
the Steelers would be willing to take a swing on

(03:58):
a Jackson Dart, you know, considering what they already went
through with Kenny Pickett and drafted him at like twenty
two overall. And it's the quarterback thing is odd. And look,
it's true, we don't need to talk quarterbacks when you're
with the Chargers, but you do when it relates to
a team perhaps willing or not being willing, but being
desperate enough to trade up to twenty two to try

(04:21):
to get ahead of the Rams or some of those
teams that they could see taking Jackson Dart as the
third quarterback. And there's some heat on Dart. Now it's
and it always happens, right, and sometimes you don't know
what that heat is. Will Levis, you know, could be
the number one player pick. Now he's there in the
second round. Malik Willis could be gone in the first

(04:41):
seven picks. He's there in the third round. And then
there's the flip side of that, which is O bo
Nix is in a first round quarterback and he's the
fifth quarterback taken like it can go either way. Quarterbacks
are tricky because some teams view it as if we
don't have one, I don't care. I'm willing to it.
If I think it's close, I'm gonna take the swing
because it's worth it. And if it doesn't work, whatever,

(05:03):
draft another one next year. But you've got to find
the quarterback. So that's the hope, is that there's enough
interest in Jackson Dart that someone might want to trade
up to twenty two and give you a haul to
move back. And even as crazy as it sounds, depending
on who you listen to, there's.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Like enough heat on the whole boom er bust.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Just take the home run swing on Jalen Milroe, you know,
and just bet on the traits. Yes, the inaccuracy is there,
the pension for bad interceptions is there. But you are
talking about a guy who is a rare athlete at
the position that can run and create havoc with his legs,
and then you just work on it and that's a

(05:45):
pot Like that's a very real possibility. Like not to
get too deep into it, Chris, but like the whole
Jackson dart son of a coach, you know, let's get
him in there kind of thing and you feel good.
There's like a high floor, you know what. I think
it's more sugar Sanders high floor throws with accuracy, nice
touch on the deep ball. Got some concerns about the athleticism,

(06:09):
you know, being top shelf. And then you've got the
Jalen Milroe, which is, hey, if this thing hits, it's
a home run. If it doesn't hit, it's the Anthony Richardson.
It's like, I get it. I get why the Colts
took him at four because it's the well, I don't
want a midpac guy, I want a top ten guy.
I want a top five guy, And if it's top
five or bust, so be it. I don't want the

(06:31):
eighteenth or twenty first best quarterback in the NFL. That's
not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for top five.
And I think that's where that whole mill Roe conversation
comes in.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
And he was invited to Green Bay, and I think
he's going to Green Bay, which, Okay, our teams telling
him something that maybe we're not talking about in the
media and the mainstream. We're just kind of homing in
on Ward and Sanders and Dart. But you know, Will
Howard's another one. I really think that it's in the
eye of the beholder when it comes to these quarterbacks.
So who knows what to expect? And you know, it's

(07:03):
it's just you count your blessings that you have a
justin Herbert, because you don't want to be in the
position that some of these teams are in. But in
the same breath, like maybe Miami or maybe there's a
team that has a quarterback situation that needs to kind
of shake itself out here in the next couple of
years that takes a swing on a quarterback that we're
not talking about either. So I think that that's a
distinct possibility. I think that it's the appropriate time to

(07:26):
maybe put to bed Tyler Warren and Colson Loveland at
twenty two money. You know, DJ has those guys's top
ten prospects. Dane has Colston as eleven, he's Tyler Warren
is eight. I just I don't see any way that
either of those guys is going to be there at
twenty two. Charges would have to move up, and I
don't think this is a draft you move up.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, And there's some things that complicate that, in particular
the deal that Trey McBride just got for nineteen million
bucks a year. So now tight end is entering. You know,
you're not getting the number one tight end in the
league for thirteen and a half million bucks anymore. Like
you were with Travis Kelce for a while there, and
like that was something that people would always preach is, well,

(08:09):
you know, I don't want to take tight end in
the first round because if I'm taking you know, Kyle
Pitts at the fifth pick overall, well, now I'm basically
paying him about nine million bucks a year, and that
means he's a top three tight end or top when
he was drafted. He's like a top three tight end
in terms of salary as opposed to wide receivers who

(08:30):
are making twenty five million bucks a year. And I'm
getting one in the top five, and now I'm getting
a big discount. And I always hated that thinking it's like, dude,
take the best player. I get it financially, but you're
already thinking about the second contract. I'm thinking about the
first five years, talking about a half decade. You got
this player in an opportunity to win football games and
win playoff games as opposed to worrying about how you're

(08:52):
saving money at the wide receiver position. Just draft, well,
you know, there's plenty of great draft you know, I
was just doing the NFL boot camp earlier today. Think
about Terry McLaurin, you know, whereas he drafted one of
the best players in the NFL, and he's the second
round guy. And it's like, yeah, you can find Lad
McCaughey second round, you can Aj Brown second round, DK
Metcalf second round. Like, there are plenty of guys to

(09:14):
not play the whole wide receiver versus tight end that's
off track because it doesn't exist anymore, is what I'm
getting at With Trey McBride now making nineteen million bucks
a year, you can now justify going to get Colston
Loveland at twelve if you're the Cowboys, going to get
Tyler Warren at seven, if you're the Jets, because they're
just that good. They're incredible players, miss walking mismatches, and

(09:40):
it's it's hard to envision, you know, like you said,
pretty much whatever top fifty or top one hundred, you're
looking at those players being there at twenty two when
they're valued that high, seemingly across the board from all
of these these draft analysts.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, you know, wide receives another thing we keep hearing
about get weapons for Justin Herbert, and obviously we acknowledge that,
but you know, Ted McMillan is wide receiver one, Matthew
Golden is probably wide receiver two.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
You got Abuca Luther Burden. So I don't know if the.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Chargers are gonna pull the trigger on a wide receiver
in the top thirty five three straight years.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
After Quentin Johnson, A lab mcclawkcky'. It's very possible.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I think if Matthew Golden is there, I mean, we
just you brought a McMillan at the top. I don't
see any way that he's there either.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
But it's hard to Like half the mock trafts have
him sliding, which is weird. I don't and there's no
there's got to be something there, right, I don't know
what it is, but because there's just too many of
them that have him sliding for me to be stubborn
and say, oh, there's no way. Well, obviously they're here
in something, right, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean Matthew Golden too, that's another one that some
people think that he'll go before McMillan. And again, this
is really every war room in the NFL. It's its
own things, its own flavor. They have a specific type.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
When it comes to.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Wide receiver, there's a specific need, you know, in the
case of the Chargers, we keep talking about that X receiver.
You know, a lot of things have to line up
the right way to select a guy. So again you're
hearing about McMillan, you know, as early as four as
a weapon for Drake May and as late as twenty
two to the Chargers, which leads me to believe that

(11:24):
nobody knows anything. And this is a draft where I
think money DJ rather on Twitter just say, hey, you're
not getting like a Hall of Famer in this draft,
but you're getting a lot of good starters. There's a
lot of good starters in this draft, and it's just
I think what your flavor is. So that's where, you know,
we can talk about the tight ends. I think the
tight ends are not going to be there at twenty two. McMillan, Golden,

(11:47):
I think that at that point maybe you have to
make a decision. Do you pair a McMillan mccaukey together
for the next five to seven years or do you
load up on defensive line or offense of line.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
But the McMillan thing is one of.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Those players somebody that's kind of kind of be the
key to that first round because if he goes early,
maybe you do see.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
A run on receivers.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
We saw that last year with you know, four guys
going in the top ten. All of a sudden, Brian
Thomas Junior goes a little bit later, the Jags has
one of the best years of any of the wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, and I think the the thing with you know,
with with a receiver like Golden and Igbuka and Burden,
Like so much of it I think is what do
we need? Do we need a slot, do we need
a ze, Do we need an X? Do we need
a legitimate X that you know, because that's not necessarily
what can they do it?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I mean Golden can do it, Iguka could do it.
But like it's not it's not what they're best at, right,
Like it's what t mac is best at. He is
best at running downfield, winning you know, high pointing balls,
catching them contested, just beating guys downfield. He's really really

(12:57):
good at that. That's where he's gonna play. I think
in the if you were to draft Golden or Agbuka
or you know, Burden's very similar to lad like that
one doesn't quite line up the other two.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
I can see it.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah, I can see it, But I think then you're
trying to It's kind of like with Q. Right when
they drafted Q, it's like, oh yeah, look at this
air apparent to Mike Williams. They're built the same, all
the production. It's like, well, yeah, but that's not really
what he does, Like, that's not what he's best at.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
He's not the fly down the field vert route can
test catch guy. He's you know, he's what he is,
and he's really good at what he does, but it's
not that and so I think that's sort of what
you get into a little bit with Golden and Igbuka,
Whereas the tight Ends are interesting because I like this
tight End group. I know some people don't, but man,
I spent a lot of time with it, and I

(13:44):
just felt like I'm coming out of watching each and
every one of these guys and going, Damn, I like
Mason Taylor, man, I really like him. And then i'd
watch Harold fannin I'm like, Damn, I really like Harold Fannon.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Man.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Look what he just put on Texas A and M
and Penn State. And he's just a fun watch man.
He's relentless and he's got this weird gait in this
running style but it works. Like and then I'm watching
Arroyo and you can see it. You're like, Okay, well
that's a big reason why cam Ward had a great season.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Like that happens.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
So then I'm like, Okay, I think there might be
a little depth. You got Conklin this year, excuse me,
and that's you know, you got Disney and Conklin.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I feel good about that. You know, you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Five hundred snaps for Conklin is a pass catching tight
end and obviously we know how I'm often Will Disney's
gonna be out there, so it's like, Okay, I'm good,
let's get that. If you know, don't freak out if
Loveland or Warren falled, don't fall to you, because I
feel like there's other options. If you went Taylor Ferguson
fannin gunner Helm, even I loved watching him, I'm like, oh,
this guy catches everything.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
That's like, it's not the end of the world, is
what I'm saying. If you're like, if you have your
heart set on Colston Loveland and I had understand why
you would, and he doesn't slide in, you freak out.
I still think there's other options available that could be
long term solutions for the next half decade at least
on their rookie contract or four years plus the franchise tax,
so five years that I could totally see making sense

(15:12):
for this team and money.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know, the opinions on these guys are wild. I'm
trying to find I saw Matt Harmon.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Talk Okay, so this is what I was looking for.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Benjamin Albright talking about TEP McMillan seeing media comps of
Mike Evans for a guy that Scouts I talked to
compared to Devonte Parker as something, and then Harmon says,
assuming this is about TET McMillan, both comps think respectfully.
So you know, we have Mike Evans going to the
Hall of Fame and Devonte Parker and people have the

(15:47):
same comp for a guy who I think maybe he's
just most one of the more polarizing players we have
in this draft in terms of where you think he
should be selected, what he's capable of at the NFL level,
and I guess maybe his eat is a concern. But
to have somebody say DeVante Parker and the other one
say Mike Evans, it's like, are we watch Are we
talking the same language?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Basically?

Speaker 4 (16:09):
How about I don't know, I feel like I got
one for him, Mike Williams, you know it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, he's he's six', four he's two.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Fifteen he knows how to high point a ball and
always wins at the catch. Point and he doesn't run
a four to four to. Forty he's closer to a
four to six. Forty It's Mike, williams you, know But
Tet he's got this ability to just break away from
defenders and just that volleyball. Background, man it's so like
if If Mike williams is a is a ball peen,

(16:41):
hammer you, Know ted McMillan is a velvet. Hammer it's
like he is so smooth in his explosions and just
how easy he makes it. Look you, Know, mike it
feels like it's a boxing match and he's gonna knock
your ass, out, like Whereas tet's just got he's got
this sort of way about, him about his body controlled.

(17:03):
Downfield it's just it's kind of, art you. Know it's
it's beautiful to. Watch AND i think some people find
that concern and they're, like, WELL i can't. Separate he's
always he's always in a battle for the and it's, like,
okay that may be. Fair he's not a four to four,
guy so he struggles to separate with some of the faster,
corners but he still. Wins he still wins the, catches
so what's it, matter you? Know AND i think that's

(17:25):
some of the things you're in and it's it's funny
you Mentioned, harmon you, know and like we Love. Matt
matt's awesome and reception perception is, awesome but you, know
he's someone that has issues with some of these receivers as,
well and other people are super high on.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Them and it's just.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Kind of, funny you know how how all of that
comes together is the reason why we're being mad at
every year he does better work on receivers than anybody
else around the, draft and like It's Jayden, higgins like he.
Doesn't he's, like, dude this is this is a bad
reception perception profile Of Jaden. Higgins and there's people that
are like, Dude jayden And higgins first. ROUNDER i like
him more THAN tmac in terms of a true ax

(18:01):
and a downfield vertical. Guy and it's just it's hard
to reconcile all of. It and that's why all it
takes is one. Team all it takes is one team
to say we Like Jayden higgins more than we like you,
Know Team, mac and we're gonna draft him in the
first round even though a lot of the production and
the route tree and all of that sort of stuff
suggests that he probably needs a little bit of work

(18:22):
and there's some limitations, there and but it doesn't, matter you,
know it ultimately doesn't. Matter it's it's what if there's
a team that Thinks Mason taylor is just scratching the
surface of what he's got the potential to do and
that he may. Be AND i do Think i've heard
that a little, bit that there's teams out there that
think really really highly of him and that the character

(18:43):
stuff is off the, charts the, leadership the teammates stuff
that like all the football intelligence that like it just
takes one, team especially at the back end of the first,
round when you're talking about teams that are competing for
championships and you're, like, okay who's The, like, dude if
you're The chiefs and you got the last year Of
travis kell see and you feel Like Mason taylor is
the next like a really really good would that surprise? You, No,

(19:06):
There they're a team that competes For Super bowls every
year and if they feel, like, bip let's just drop
this right in here and hope we can pick up
where we left.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Off money that that territory where he could. Go.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Uh it reminds me a couple of years ago The
Quinton draft where we were talking About Dalton kincaid And Michael.
Maher how ABOUT dj talking About Sam laporta really early
in the, process and that was a guy who went
early in the Second, yeah maybe a little bit earlier
than some, expected but but, still, like you, KNOW i
just REMEMBER dj being so high on The porta and

(19:37):
he just he ripped it up his rookie season and
had a great second season as. Well so maybe that's
the type of player that, again you, know you you
have different teams who have different, flavors and maybe that's
a guy that isn't too far off from A lovelin
or A warren in the eyes of some. Teams right
as the lights the lights just went off in my

(19:59):
my cake. Office oh, yeah, yeah, Talk i'll turn it
all real.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Quick talk say. Something oh there is all you had
to do is move around and you're all. Good, yeah and,
look AND i think what we end up, doing and
it's understandable because of what our last image of this
team was is we're so focused on offense that we
forget that this is a really good defensive. Draft and

(20:24):
if you're truly a best player, available, team WHICH i
think The chargers. ARE i do believe that that that
may be the path they go in the first couple,
rounds that it could be defensive. Tackle at twenty, two
maybe an edge slips and they're looking toward the future and,
like hey, man we didn't think or they like As,
araku or they like one of those other edges that.

(20:46):
Slides maybe they're comfortable with the off field stuff From
Mike green and they're, like he's too, talented he is
way too, good and we've done all our homework and
we feel all right about the off field stuff and
that's why he. Slid but we're good and we're, comfortable and,
like those are things that happen on draft. Day Laramie
tunsel and a freaking bong, mask you, know the universally

(21:09):
acknowledged number one left, tackle and next, thing you, know
the weirdest draft issue we've ever seen ever caused him
to slide until The dolphins were.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Like what are we?

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Doing this is ridiculous draft the guy and he's one
of the best left tackle you, know so you never,
know you, know you never know what weird things are
gonna happen on draft, day and any of those things coming.
Up but going back to my original point with the,
defense it's, like, yeah it's very possible that there's a
receiver sitting, there and there's a tight end sitting, there
or there is an offensive lineman sitting, there and they're

(21:43):
just like, Man Kenneth grant is number twelve on our
top one, Hundred Derek harmon's number, Eleven Walter nolan's number.
Eight what are we can't pass on these? Guys this
is way too much value at twenty. Two even though
this is the more pressing, Need we've got to take this.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Guy money that was next on my.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Notes you Lose Joey khalil probably one more, Year Bud
dupree one more. Year daan has six edge, players six
edge players in his top twenty. Two SO i can
envision a scenario where The chargers are up at twenty.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Two one of.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Those six edge guys is, there and that person is
ranked like number two or three edge behind like a
Dual carter and somebody, else, right and the value is,
there and you have to take that player at twenty two.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Overall SO i mean the fact that we're so deep
at that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Position and then defensive tackle in, general LIKE i could
see them waiting on defensive tackle because they figure they
can get a guy in the second. Round they have
a first round great On but this edge thing is.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Interesting, YEAH i think it is because like the edge class,
issue just talking first round edge class is. Weird it's really.
Weird like you've got the production as a raku and
he's kind of what you think of as an, edge.
Right the get off is great as they shut the
lights out on.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You, Again it's just, it's you know, What i'm in
this office though all The, YEAH i think it's, fine
but to, me it happens to me every fifteen minutes
When i'm working in this.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Office i'm not gonna. LIE i don't.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Know if you've got some makeup on for being on THE.
Tv there's a little bit of a vampire Vibe i'm
getting off you because you got The widow's, peak you,
know and you've got a little bit of vampire vibe
Going Chris so with the lights out and like a vampire.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Exactly we're.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Good but, yeah Like Jalen, walker small man, like people
are projecting him to go in the top seven and
then when you look at the, measurables he's six one
with thirty two inch. Arms it's, Like, okay that guy's going,
like but he's, good you, know but he's a good.
Player he's he's you, know another one of These georgia defensive.
Linemen Shamar stewart blew the doors off the, combine, right

(23:53):
he's got no. Production guy's got four and a half
sacks in his college.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
CAREER, whoa what about the? Pressures?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Congratulations how can you only have four and a half?
Sacks like that's The Shemar stewart. Thing so is that
guy gonna be sitting there at twenty? Two and do
you value traits? Overproduction AND a AND m was a weird.
Defense and then you've Got Michael, williams who's got all
the measurables That Jalen walker doesn't. Have but some people are, like,
eh not quite sure about My so like any of

(24:22):
those guys could be, There, Walker Stuart, williams As, iraku
and like you, said they could all make sense at
twenty two and we'd all be, like, oh, yeah, YEAH
i can see. That Khalil mack is thirty four and
wasn't sure if he was going to retire or come.
Back Bud dupreese on the back on the last year
of his, deal and all you would have going forward Is. Tuley,

(24:44):
well of course you take an, edge and so like
that makes sense as as well like any of that.
Stuff and then it's, funny LIKE i was doing this
stuff with With lorenzo and all the comments so many
people are it's such a funny position to discuss because
it's super. Polarizing on one, half you've, got, hey, guys

(25:06):
why is nobody talking about? Corner you got two second
your players that were fifth round selections last, year Cam
hart was obviously dealing with some serious issues with concussions
with a little bit of injury, action and you sign
to sort, of, hey we think these guys will fit
In jackson And Saint. Jews why is nobody talking about?
Corner and then the other side of it, is you

(25:29):
know be, like, oh couldn't possibly TELL i don't care
If Will johnson, Slides we're not taking corner in the first.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Round how do you?

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Know you got to you gotta beef up the, lines
or you've got to get us a. Weapon it's like
that corner's a. Weapon you forget corners a, weapon, guys
when you got a real good. One, uh, look at
what The Philadelphia eagles did with With quinnyon and With
cooper and how much that worked out for, them taking
two rookie corners that ended, up you, know helping them
get to a freaking Super bowl and win.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
It Will johnson is the PLAYER i have written down
right here as the THAT i think would be the
perfect fit at the perfect time for The. Chargers this
was An All american To, michigan who was the DEFENSIVE
mvp in The National Championship, game who had his best
years Under Jesse. MINTTER i think last year a little

(26:16):
bit different With Wink Wink, martindale a little bit of
a different. Scheme but this is a guy that Coach
harball And Jesse mitz are very familiar, with and a
couple of weeks, AGO i know we talked about the
SUCCESS i Saw.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Tar he's still a Rich. EISEN i, mean Like Tar
heap had a really good. Year Cam hart had a
really good. Year BUT i.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Don't think that there's enough tape and enough time on
task to be completely comfortable with.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
That position and the secondary in.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
General and if a guy Like Will johnson is, there
you set up. MONEY i, Mean Quinya mitchell And cooper
dejen went to A Super bowl and won. It The
gene had a pick six in that game and throughout
the entire. Season the secondary of the year before For
philly was. Terrible and to get those two guys to
make as big a difference as they made throughout the
season and especially in the, PLAYOFFS i think that that's

(27:08):
definitely something to look at and, Say, okay, listen If
Will johnson's, there and you know the defensive coordinator has
a great deal of respect and knows him very, WELL
i don't, know it feels like a perfect pick to.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Me, Yeah i'd be.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Surprised like The Will johnson things, strange, Right it Depends
AND i don't want to say this with. Certainty this
is just sort of some of the stuff that's being
pushed around there is you, know he's not going to
run a forty and that some of the medical stuff
he's like even they're like, saying hey, MAN i could
see this guy just saying, no not, gonna not gonna
give it to. You, tay you look at the. Tape

(27:45):
go to the. Tape that's that's my. Resume if you
don't like, It i'm.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Fine and who who and who would be comfortable with
that line of thinking money.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Right and that's that's how he could. Slide but if
you push that stuff, aside, yeah this guy is if
you're playing, zone he's gonna knock it out of the.
Park and he is you, know he's the, size he's
THE iq he sees. It and that to me is,
like what's the most important? Thing and that's Why Johddy
barron's like so highly thought of. Too it's, like well

(28:14):
what about? This what's he lie?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Five what is he?

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Five five eleven one hundred and ninety four? Pounds like
they're concerned about the. Size i'm, like, DUDE i don't.
Care you watch tape Of baron and he is just
freaking got a nose for. It he knows what's happening
before it, happens and you can move him all over the.
Field and so those two, guys if they're, there if
one of them is there at twenty, two that would
not surprise me at all BECAUSE i think it's the

(28:38):
question of and we talked about this on Earlier chargers.
Weeklies it's, like, well do you really want to invest
in a position when you can have perhaps a lesser
raw talent player and Coach klink And jesse min are
going to be able to do more with.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Them and then you can.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Push back on that and, say, yeah but how would
it look if they had any elite, player you, know
if they had an elite, cornerback then what could they?
Do and so that's sort of the push and the
pull of, attacking you, know sort of that debate of
do you is you, know because this defense is played
the way it is Because minter and Clean scale are

(29:17):
so good at. It is that why you can have
these fifth rounders and now you can use that first
round or on a tight, end on a running, back
on a, guard on a defensive, tackle on an edge
because you don't have to worry about corner because they're
going to make it work with whoever you give.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Them, Yeah Will johnson would look good in powder. Blue
and you draft those guys in the first round because they.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Are game, changers, like, yeah that's.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Why that's Why Joe old was selected at, Five that's
Why darwin was selected at, eighteen and inexplicably was there at.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Eighteen you, know WE i.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Mean how many cars makes you go on the top?
Five Chris, Right Sauce, Gardner Derek, Stingley. Jeffakout even the
ones that don't work, out they still go in the
top five because that's how war position. Is Denzel ward,
like it's an important premium.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Position, yeah and if you can get it at.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Eighteen and if he's the top quarterback of THIS i
THINK i Think dane has his quarterback too in this.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Track, yes Behind Travis.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hunter, Yeah Travis's, Yeah travis is a. UNICORN i Think
travis should be the one overall.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Pick travis is gonna. Go travis is you, know if It's,
cleveland she's gonna be a wide. Receiver, Yeah like he's
the best receiver on their. Team SO i would assume
that's where he's going to. Get the majority of his.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Snaps would be him At judy, Right, yeah he's.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
BATTER i, mean you, KNOW i Like Jerry, judy But
Travis hunter is a different level. Man Like that's AND
i think for like IF i were A gm or
IF i were LIKE, I i would say to my coaching, staff, hey,
MAN i want this guy playing both. Ways LIKE i
want him playing both. Ways if he's willing to do,
It i'm willing to do. It let's at least figure

(30:50):
it out and you, guys tell me how we can
make that. Happen cause it's LIKE i just, think AND
i know football is way different because it's a violent,
sport but it's, like you, know teams met With otani
and basically told, him, yeah we we think you're a
better pitcher than a hitter and that's the path we'd
want to. Go and he's, like, no that's not What i'm.
Doing and The angels we're, like, no you're you're playing both, ways,

(31:11):
Man you're and, that and it's just AND i think
that's that's. It, anyway that's not For chargers.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
WEEKLY i hope those people ARE i hope those people
are not in baseball anymore after fifty to fifty clubs and,
right but but you, know all offensive line. Too maddy
is another position GROUP i wanted to get to because you,
know we spoke about kind of the the one. Year
Andre james is you, Know beckton for a couple of
years and so they have a plan for twenty twenty.

(31:42):
Five but the top Guard Tyler booker and In Grey.
ZABEL i think those are the two names that could
make sense for The chargers if they're. THERE i Think
booker is regarded as the top guard in this class
and a run heavy, scheme and And, zabel you, know
as a.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Center you, know we've talked about the challenges at.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Center both could be nice fits AND i just you
can't underestimate hardball And ortiz just continuing to attack that offensive.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Line, yeah that's. It looks it's the most. Important is
what a coach call, it tip of the, spear and
it's what they all came in. Preaching we're going to play.
Physical that's What we're going to. Be a, physical downhill football.
Team and unless you have the offensive line to do,
that to open up the holes and the running back
to hammer at, home then, okay that's what you want to.
Be but are You AND i think we saw it

(32:35):
at times last, year and we saw it get away
from them at times last year where they weren't the
most physical team on the field on A sunday or
A thursday or A monday or A. Saturday so, LIKE
i think that's that's why offensive line is so is
so often discussed with this, team because that's that's the most.
Important everybody's, like, oh well now you GOT, Nauj now

(32:56):
you can be that physical. Team well, yeah that's How nauji,
runs but you need the holes to open. Up now
she's not she's gonna get.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
You what's? Blocked?

Speaker 4 (33:04):
What how did you block it? Up he's gonna get
it for. You he's gonna be a hammer and he's
gonna get it for. You but you better block it,
up you, know because it's not like He's Barry sanders back,
there you, know just making defenders miss and rolling jump
cuts and redirecting and bouncing it outside like, no he's
he's a hammer and he's gonna punish, You so you
got to block it. Up so THAT'S i think where

(33:24):
the question comes. In now the question, becomes you, know
can you get that in the later, rounds which typically
you can, right typically you can get you, Know Trey
smith And Creed humphrey and for The, chiefs and neither
of those guys were first round, picks you, know and
very you, know regularly we see these interior offensive linemen
get scooped up in the second and the third and the,

(33:45):
fourth and that's kind of what you could be talking about.
Then instead Of Gray's abel in the first round LIKE i,
saw you, know they Were Charles grant's pro, Day like
that's you, know small, school a little bit more of
a project and you know kick inside from tackle will
you And? Mary and that's kind of, Where, okay now
we can get that with our third round and then
you can start pushing it down into your fourth and your.

(34:06):
Fifth you got all those sixth round and it's, like,
okay now is you kind of start going through all
the guards and Centers we talked, about you, Know Jake
major right at when we were At major's when we
were at the combine and how you know what the
thought is on him and a leader and you, know
Helping texas get into that playoff and make a run

(34:27):
at a national, championship and, like those are guys you're
getting in the fifth and sixth and it's like, perfect you,
know those are the guys you can develop as long
as you have that one year fix right. Now and
so that's kind of WHAT i think they're going to
be balancing. Out how does this thing go With zion at?
Center and are we looking for a? Guard are we
looking for a? Center are we looking for? Both and
you know that's that's something that's certainly going to be

(34:48):
kicked around with this front. Office AND i don't know
if it's first. Round considering where some of the other
talent is in this first round on that vertical board
as opposed to the horizontal board where you're ranking positions as,
WELL i JUST i feel like maybe it's it's not
quite the value that they might have at another.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Position fair to, say take out, quarterback take out, tackle
take out, linebacker every other position on the.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Table, SAFETY i don't. THINK i don't think safety would
be in play in the first. ONE i think they
should draft a safety for. SURE i, mean A lowe
is going to be a free agent after this, year
SO i do think they should take a safety at some.
Point but, YEAH i think those would be the. Four,
obviously you, know tackle unless it's a tackle you're converting

(35:36):
to an interior alignment like A gray's able tackle line
inside the off. Ball, linebacker, safety and quarterback would be the.
Four anything else, corner, edge, interior and then obviously on
the offensive side. INTERIOR i think running back if you
find value, there if you think because this is something

(35:57):
that we talked about in the past two AND i
saw an article In The End athletic that was talking
about what a mistake it would be to Draft Ashton
genty in the top. Ten AND i get, that you,
know because it goes into what we talked, about and
that's that you better be ready to win right now
if you're going to invest like that in a running.

(36:17):
Back and so when you look at the top ten
and you start Going, Titans, Browns, Giants, Patriots, Jags, Raiders, Jets, Panthers,
saints does that sound like a group of teams that
are ready to win right now that you could drop
this running back in? Now The bears at ten are
interesting because they invested so much money in that offensive,

(36:38):
line trading for guys Like, tuney paying guys to come,
in and they've GOT Dj moore and they've Got Cole,
kamet like they have all the pieces and it's a
decent defense where you could, say, OKAY i could probably see, that.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
And they had The Cowboys, Gibbs yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Exactly so like that's sort of where you can see
it makes. Sense but outside of, that it's, like you,
know are the are The chargers that? Team and then
does that Bring Marine hampton into the conversation at twenty,
two like, yeah, man we're ready to.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Go we are.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Ready we won eleven games last, year we made the
playoffs like we're we're ready to get these next five
years or six. Years if you include the franchise tag
of a running back you, know to to contribute and
so then then that's where it does make.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Sense hampton's another guy to me that seems like he's
gonna go higher than than twenty. TWO i could be,
wrong but, yeah it's IT'S i think it's very possible
that he could. Go and the Whole Nazi harris thing,
too money is when he had conversations With jim And,
JOE i imagine that he expects to be the bell.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Cow he has not missed the. Game he started every
game he's played in THE.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Nfl but if someone like him or In hampton drops
at twenty, two, yeah you have to have a real.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Conversation but is.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
There another running back then million compliment that compliments what he.
DOES i feel Like Treyvon, henderson is that.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Like that home run?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Hitter yeah that you, KNOW i don't.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
THINK i don't Think nase has had a run over
like thirty five yards in THE. Nfl, right if you
compare him with the guy that that's capable of taking
it to the, house to have that threat in the
backfield to go With nausei and his durability and his
ability to chew clock and get the tough. Yards that's
that's something THAT i think can be kind of a
missing piece to an offense as.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Well, yeah and that's you, know and then it's, like,
hey do we want more the same and to continue
to punish defenses and like there's just no letting. Off you,
know it's not the foot on the, gas it's the
foot on the. Throat and is that the style of
back that it's, Like, oh Here's Quinchewn. Judkins, hey you
thought you were gonna get a break With Naji harris
running you. Over, nope here comes here Comes judkins and

(38:49):
his two hundred and twenty five pounds pounding it as.
Well SO i think there's two schools of thought that, like,
hey you can still just keep running it with the
same style and it's just a new guy with fresh.
Legs it's going to continue to punish you and wear
you down and force you to tackle. Him or, like,
Yeah trayvion is a perfect. Fit like it's a perfect
fit because he's great in pass. Pro he catches the

(39:10):
ball and he is explosive as hack man he can,
do but you're talking about PROBABLY i would be really
surprised if he was there at fifty. Five so now
you're talking about a trade down scenario or a trade
up scenario and in the second, round and then you
know you got a. Way, okay what's the difference Between
henderson And Dylan samson Or henderson and R. J. Hart,

(39:32):
Now harvey's very. Small you, Know henderson's five po.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
TEN.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Rj harvey's five. Eight so like you're talking. About but you,
know like TODAY i was doing THE nfl boot camp
thing and you, know saw my old Friend Maurice jones
drew and why did he slide to the second? Round
because people were, like, ooh he's, awesome but he's five.
Eight it's, like, yeah he's five, eight and he is
a bad, dude and you can't knock him, down and

(39:58):
he is strong as a freaking ou and if you
let up your guard for a half, second let down
your guard for a half, second he's gonna blow you
off your. Feet and like people just they didn't want
to believe. It and then when he got to the,
league it's, like, oh, yeah this guy runs circles Around
Reggie bush because he's so freaking, tough and he's as
fast as, elusive can catch the ball in the, backfield

(40:20):
can return punt Like and so that's the interesting thing ABOUT.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Rj.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Harvey it's, like, hey don't forget you, know, yes there's
a little bit of a concern there at five, eight
two hundred five, pounds but you know THAT'S i Mean Ashton,
genty everybody's talking about him as a AND i was
again BECAUSE i was just With. Maurice he's, like, man,
goes everybody's Comparing Ashton genty to. Me Now he's, like

(40:45):
why DO i gotta go in the second? Round And
Ashton genty's gonna be picked in the top five or, something, man,
exactly because that's What kenty Is Like genty is he's
five eight and he's two hundred and fifteen pounds and
he does not go down when you try to tackle.
HIM i, mean he's and if you were to tell
a team that was ready to win right, now, hey
we're gonna give You Maurice Jones drew and drop him
into your, BACKFIELD i was, like, yes, Please i'll sign

(41:07):
up for that. Immediately SO i think, That but What
i'm trying to get to is there's so many, backs
AND i think with, Look skataboo's another, one, Right, skataboo
and just sort of the way that he's built and
the size and the concern about because he's five nine
and a half two. Sixteen you, know some people are

(41:28):
worried about the. Explosiveness and it's, like is that is?
That is he The Traveon henderson that you're talking about
to Compliment? Naji, No But i'm fine with him being
the compliment To naugy because it's, like, yeah, dude you're
not getting up off the. Floor scataboo's bringing the lumber as,
well and you're gonna continue to get the crud kicked

(41:48):
out of.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
You So dane has thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Running backs that have at least a third round grade on.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Them that's. INSANE i, mean that's.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay so Outside ashton And Amarin, hampton you know he
Is Caleb johnson is his third. Back trevion is this,
Fourth judkins is this. Fifth samson is a. Sixth Jordan,
james who we heard a lot about at the. Combine
you MENTIONED. Rj harvey at, Eight trevor etn From georgia at,
Nine tooting from ten at.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Ten Lancer line's favorite, guy, remember.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah top, ten top ten running, back and then you Got,
Hunter scattaboo And.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Giddons all with at least a third round grade on.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Them.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah SO i think that's that's where the Whole hampton
conversation comes, in, like, hey how much how much of
a difference? Maker is he right to draft him at
one or as you just, said you just rattled off
thirteen guys that you know you're gonna be able to
get one of those in the third in that.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Ballpark, yeah if they're in that.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Ballpark and then we just talked about six edge guys
that you, know one of the more premium positions in the, End,
phil if If joe has a has an edge player
as a top ten prospect that falls at twenty. Two
this whole exercise we've done for forty five minutes buy
and it just it shows us that we don't have
no idea what's gonna Happen draft.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Two i'll talk to you, well and that's what's, Funny like
if you Go SO i went through all the mock.
DRAFTS i went through the most RECENT nfl Dot com
which Was rhett who does a path to the draft
with dj and And bucky and you know he calls,
games and you know he's Former indiana, receiver so he's
super deep into the big Tenht ret's got his, connections
he knows what he's, doing and he's Got Colston loveland

(43:37):
falling to The. CHARGERS i look at Mel, kuiper and
Mel kiper has Got Gray's abel going to him in
the first And Mason taylor going to him in the.
SECOND i go TO pff and they've got The chargers
trading up to sixteen to Get Matthew golden and giving
up their third round pick and their fifth round pick
to do. It and it's, like, Okay so there's. That

(43:59):
and then And i'm trying to think of what the
other one was THAT i went. TO i hit, up
oh the uh that might have been the athletic. ONE
i don't know one of. Them and then one of
them had him Drafting Kenneth, grant the defensive tackle out
Of michigan point being every mock DRAFT i. Checked, Oh Chad,
ruder who did a five ROUNDER i think had him
taken As, araku the edge out Of Boston. College So

(44:21):
i'm bringing that all up to illustrate they can do
anything Like that's that's how good of a job they've
done building some depth out that they can that each
of these people that had to post a mock draft
THAT i respect AND i think do a great job
for their for their, outlets all gave them a different,
player different, position different side of the, ball and it's

(44:42):
all over the.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Map, yeah just talking this out with, You edge makes
a lot of, sense And corner makes a lot of.
Sense AND i may THINK i think that maybe those
are like the two maybe more underreported or less lesser
talked about positions as we go through this. Exercise and you,
know we talked so much at the combine about so

(45:03):
many different. Players but the way that this is shook
out With joey going To buffalo With khalil kind of
with the last dance situation And bud, being you, know
maybe one more year left here In Los, Angeles Like
edge makes a lot of.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Sense, yeah but you know WHAT i think the other
thing With edge two is you, know if you're a year,
out donn't dress it in a, year you, know like
like you don't need to rush to do it this,
year because like IF i were to tell, you, hey
what do you need more this year tackle or. Edge
and if you're sitting there at twenty two and you

(45:40):
have similar grades on let's say As iraku And harmon
and their neck and, neck and it's, like, yeah same,
grade what do we?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Do?

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Well you Take harmon Because harmon's going to get a
heck of a lot more snaps this year than as
A raku is probably going to get this year because
you got two, lead you Got, khalil you Got, Bud
so you just draft the edge next.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Year and a.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Lot of that has to do with, okay, well but
how special is the? Player like who is?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
It you? Know and THAT'S i think what people.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
Forget it's, like, well we got to get an edge this, year,
okay but who's the? Edge which edge are you?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Getting you?

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Know because if you're taking that, edge you know what's
your opportunity? Cost, well your opportunity cost Is Derek, Harmon Kenneth,
Grant Walter, nolan could be T, mac it could Be Colston,
lovelin it could Be Gray's Able like that's that's all you.
Know your sunk cost IS i need an edge Because
Bud depre And Khalil mack might not be here next. Year,
okay that's, fine but don't don't pass up on the

(46:35):
opportunity and the alternative that's staring you in the face
for right. Now and SO i think THAT'S i think
for people that are kind of worried about down the,
road you. Know and now she's only on a one year. Deal,
okay it's gonna be running backs next, year SO i
dress it next year or maybe. Not she has a
great year and he gets signed to, another you, know
two or three year deal and it worked out great

(46:56):
and everybody. Wins and SO i think that's you, know,
well what about what if might gets? Hurt, OKAY i understand.
THAT i understand that, concern you, know but is maybe
that wide receiver temax off the board and now you're
just going to reach for a guy that you had
as your twenty ninth ranked prospect instead of taking the
guy that you had as your sixteenth ranked.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Prospect you know, THAT i just.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
DON'T i think the most healthy way to fill out
a draft is to Take and everybody says, it and
then they get in the middle of, it and it's
hard because you got the coaches in the room and
you got the scouts in the, room and they're just
all politicking for their, guy and you can get pushed
and pulled in different directions as opposed to just, saying, hey,
guys where are we. At this is our consensus board

(47:41):
as a, team and we're at pick twenty, two and oh,
look there's the guy that's sitting at fifteen on our,
board and that's a seventh spot value for. Us so
we're just gonna go ahead and take. Them and SO
i think that's the best way to approach this and
that's how you end up having great draft. Classes and
that's what The ravens have always.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Done that's.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Right you, Know, Joe joe's done a nice job of
covering his basis for twenty twenty five With Tyler conklin
And Andre james And Makai becton and you know Guys Najia.
Harris so they're good going into twenty twenty. Five you,
know you Hope Mike williams can bounce back With justin
you're removed from that acl and free agency is still not.

(48:20):
Over like there's going to Be vets that are signed
after the draft as, well maybe in the wide receivers,
room maybe in other. Positions but, Yeah i'm with, you,
MAN i. AGREE i think that being able to go
into twenty twenty five knowing that you have some of
these veterans in place allows you to maybe home in
on certain positions that can help you immediately this.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Year BECAUSE i agree.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You NEED i think you need a first round pick
that's going to make an immediate impact this year for this.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Team, YEAH i, think you.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Know then that's sort of the debate on the first
round is for the most, PART i think the most
successful teams they're just content to hit. Doubles, dude we
can't strike. Out you cannot strike out in the first.
Round might not hit the home, run AND i get,
it you know that that.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Player turns into a home.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Run But i've got enough concern that it could be
a strikeout AND i can't have that That i'm willing
to take the, Double give me the, double And i'm
content to hit the double every single. Time and that's
where The Gray's abeles come into, play, Right that's where
Your Derek harmon's and Your Kenneth grants and those type

(49:35):
of players you, know enter the conversation because it's, Like,
yeah this is my, double, man AND i feel really
good about. It for the next five years with my
fifty year option That i'm going to hit a double
every year with this guy over and over and over.
Again Is egbuka the perfect receiver for what we need?
Know but, MAN i feel like his floor is, here

(49:57):
and of all the, receivers this is the one THAT
i feel LIKE i know is a double. Team ac
might be the home, Run golden with his four to
two nine might be the home, run But buka is
my guy THAT i know can do everything and do
it at a really good, level guaranteed really good.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Level so that's where.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Twenty Two, yeah go, ahead, Buddy, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's What i'm, Saying, like that's where that conversation would come.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
In we're, like, wow they took A guka instead Of
golden and he ran a four two, Nine and it's, like, well,
yeah but there is some variance there With, golden whereas
there's a little more just kind of, cute just cruising
with a player like and that's just my. Opinion that
may not be everybody's, pay but that's just kind OF
i think to illustrate the. POINT i think that's that
can come into the conversation for a lot of. Teams

(50:43):
and that's why you may see guys go higher at
a position than somebody else that you thought was rated
higher because they just want to hit the.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Double AND i think twenty two is like double territory. Too, yeah,
right charges are.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Right in the middle of that. That you, know we
talked about this at the. Top there's doesn't seem like there's.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
A lot of like nirational players in this. Draft but.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Earlier points you made too is you, know, yeah get
a guy with a double and then get coached By
Jesse minter and get coached by these guys who have been,
there and you, know it turns into a. Triple and
that's just something THAT i think can can really kind
of show itself so. Early you, know we talked about
Cam hart And tarheet still and what they were able
to do this. Year obviously their, talent but just the

(51:24):
coaching and the scheme that stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Matters so.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Last THING i wanted to ask you about as we
as we roll out of here, is, YEAH i Think
Trey lance was signed maybe an hour after you guys
did the. Podcast, yeah thoughts On trey coming to coming
TO la and, listen a chance to develop and maybe
to a backup quarterback in this.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
League, yeah you, KNOW i have a couple of. Thoughts
one is like people were freaking. OUT i got a
bunch of friends that are charged with fans that are
like six and a half million. DOLLARS i was, like,
yeah that's an, agent, league that's that's an agent telling
you that it could be up to six and a.
Half it's probably way lower than. That and you need
a third order. Back and this, regime you, know moved
on From easton and needed to find a third. Quarterback

(52:06):
and here's a guy that's really smart and has some
really good tools and you put them in that room
and you feel pretty good about, it you, know and that's,
fine and it's and look what did The chargers do
in training camp last? Year they traded a sixth round
pick For Taylor. Heineke so let's say you're running through training,
camp maybe you play a preseason game or, two and
somebody Sees Trey lance show out with What Greg roman

(52:30):
and What Shane day were able to do with, him
and they're, like you know what we need to back? Up, hey,
GUYS i know you Got Tyler Taylor. HEINIKE i want
to take a you want to take a fifth For Trey?
Lance i'd be happy to send it to, you because
that's What dallas did last year To San. Francisco, Right they're,
like we'll send you fourth for, him and so like
that's the other value of it is the opportunity to

(52:51):
get this guy in your, system get him to look,
good feel, comfortable go show out in training. Camp have
The beat writers talk about how Good Trey lance looks
throwing the ball and in a round and A Greg
roman system with a running, quarterback and see if you
can get something out of.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It, Yeah i'm always for, you know you have a franchise,
quarterback but having a, room you, know if you if
you if you need a guy for a week or,
two having somebody that that can run the system a
similar skill. Set.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
UH i think all that stuff's.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Important So i'm rooting for trade because, listen number, three
overall pick career has not gone the way That i'm
sure he. Anticipated, Uh but sometimes it's all about fit
and situation and and maybe The chargers can be the
place for him to kind of get his career back
on the.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Track let's, hope let's hope strack some value out of
that and hope he has a good.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Experience all, right anything else.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Money now they've turned the lights out on, You. Chris
let's call it a.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Night they've they've been up for thirty. MEN i, Mean
i'm here for the next several. Hours i'll probably be
just working in the. Dark but appreciate you guys as always,
listening watching for.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Money I'm. Chris this has Been chargers. Week see you next.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Week Street, Street

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Stree