May 2, 2025 • 38 mins
On this episode of Chargers Weekly, Bolts radio play-by-play announcer Matt “Money” Smith and Chargers legend Jahleel Addae recap the latest news involving LA and the entire NFL. Less than a week removed from the 2025 NFL Draft, the hosts sit down with Defensive Coordinator Jesse Minter to break down draft picks Jamaree Caldwell & Kyle Lennard. Minter talks what traits the Bolts targeted in free agency, his defensive philosophy, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Late fifteen to ten touched up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, Welcome to Chargers Weekly. Here at the boat
with jaliel Adaie post draft, the post press conference, getting
ready for the first bit of offseason activities, rookie camp,
all that stuff has come up in the next couple
of weeks. We got our list of eighteen undrafted free
agents that have been brought in. But Jalil, since it
was pretty much Chris and me doing the post round
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draft wrap up, figure, it's important to get you and
on this thing and kind of talk about your thoughts
on the hall that Joe Ortiz and Chad Alexander and
all those guys came up with and what they're walking
into the season with in terms of rookies. Just maybe
your overall perspective on all the guys that they.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Got, all right, when you just just look at the
guys that they picked, right, they failed avoid in every
position that we even talked about, you know, previously weeks
on the pod right right, starting off with Marion Hampton.
You just see who he is. We talked about him
several times, big physical running backs, quick fast, he checks
all the boxes, right, He's a guy that you know,
Jim Harball and those guys want to build this offensive
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around they want a big, physical running back, and they
got him in with the first round pick. We talked
about it before. We talked about the d tackle Mari right.
So he's big, stout, keeps his shoulder square to the
line of scrimmage right. He plays very square. He has he.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
For people that are listening to they may not know
what that means when you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So when you play square right as a defensive lineman,
you never want your shoulders turned to the sideline right,
because then you just get washed by and you create
lanes for running backs to run. He's a guy that
plays with physical solocent and gravity. His hands are on
he's square to the line of scrimmage, so he can
shock and shed at any direction that he wants to,
and he does that really good. I watched a lot
of his film when they drafted him. I was like, okay,
let me look at him. And he's double teamed a lot,
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and he's holding his anchor that coach call it the
anchor point, right, So he's eating up to and then
he's able to get skinny when he needs to to
defeat the block and make a lot of plays in
the backfield. Yeah, and I think just just looking at
their top three, we talked about they like hit it
out the park and you look at receiver, right, you
look at Trey and what they did with Trey Harris,
big physical guy, and he's in the SEC. So he's
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seeing the best of the best defensive backs weekend and
week out. So when you're watching that film to be
able to evaluate him, it's not a hit or miss.
It's like, listen, he's going against top competition weekend, week out,
very very fast. Gets for being as tall he is
and lank as he is, he gets in and out
of his breaks really really well. And then you move
over to Kyle Right, we talked about him and I
was like, hey, uh, SEC defensive player of the year
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in the conference and in the nation. To fall that far,
I just I don't know how he felt that far,
but I'm happy that he did. Right. We talked about
him being in the package, the NASCAR package, and you
have just your your guys that are just going on
third downs. We're not worried about to run, We're just
coming after the quarterback. And I think they did a
really really good job just addressing those positions that we
talked about a lot of times throughout prior to the
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draft and going to get those guys. And then you
look at the tight end position, right, we talked about
that a lot and we were, hey, it was gonna
be first round, its gonna be second round. But they
did their work, they did a due diligence and they
found a guy who they feel like, you know, we
said it was a deep tight end draft, right, and
they and it was, and they were able to get
their first four picks that they wanted, well they think
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that that they needed. And then he was still he
was there, he was available floor to guy. I know
the high school. He went to a very prestigious high school,
big body type guy, big rated catching radius for for
for Herbert. So I think they knocked it out the
park man, I really do. I can go on and
on if you want me to money.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I wanted to put it out there for yalation.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I'll start, you know what, then.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Then I'll kind of sort of dig in. Now we'll
go player by player, because certainly the one thing that
that you notice, especially you know, the position that you
played at safety, specifically boxed safety kind of like when
you look at Amar and Hampton. The first thing that
jumps out is when he gets an south man, it's
all gas. It's it is a freight truck. I mean,
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it's it's a tractor trailer coming at you. Challenges of being,
you know, a defensive back when you see that come
through the line with the explosion he has the burst
that he has and why that is challenging for you.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, and it's crazy. He's a he's a North Carolina guy.
And the first thing I did I text Trey Boston,
who is a very north He is a strong North
North Carolina guy, played in North Carolina. He's still heavily
involved with that program. And I said, give me your
two cents. He said, jeltl He's one of those running
backs that we would watch on film and we did
not want to tackle on Sunday. That was his exact words, right,
And it's just that physical presence when you come down
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into the box as a box safety, which what I
did majority of my career. You it's almost like a
derreck Henry. You want to get them before the will
start turning, right, If you can meet him at the
line of scrimmage, if you can meet him before you
know he gets his pad square and he's coming downhill.
That's idea when you have a back like a Martin
Hampton who can get in and out of holes quickly.
He reads, he reads the line, he reads the linebackers,
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he's shooting downhill. It's tough for a five ten two
hundred type two hundred pound type safety six foot one
ninety five safety to really want to go in there
and stick your nose in there from four quarters and
when and when that physical battle, it's just it's challenging,
and it truly is so like he is what the
Chargers build. They're franchise on what Harbor bills. His franchise
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on is being tough, physical and tough as nails, and
that's what he brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's just so much there. I think
the oh drafted running back in the first round value
and look, values are starting to get so I wouldn't
say out of whack, but you know they got nase
for an incentive laden deal that could push it to
like nine million. But you see the Trey McBride contract,
and I just kind of think about that conversation around
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Quinton a couple of years ago, and it's like ah,
you know, tight end. There's just not enough value there.
And it's like, well, Trey McBride just got nineteen million
bucks a year, George Kittle just got twenty million dollars
a year. Like the the economics of football to me
are so far beyond just not taking the right guy
like it just does, especially at twenty two, like, there's
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no there to me, there's you're already getting a financial
If Omari and Hampton is what we think he can become,
you know you're going to get the bump right away.
If we believe that he can be a top ten
back in this league, a top eight, a top five
back in this league, then yeah, I mean it's it's
worth it. If you take him in the top ten,
you're going to get financial value out of that. And
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I think the other thing too that we brought up
Julil and just kind of from your experience being in
the locker room when you hear a coach and a
coaching staff and just kind of the overall foundation of
a team is physical brutality. That's what we want to
do week in and week out. This to me, when
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he walks through that door and you're a teammate and
you see what he looks like. It's not it's not
five ten one ninety five, it's six foot twenty five.
Like I would assume that goes a long way, like, oh, yeah,
this is what coach said, we're gonna be mm hm
clearly with our first round pick. This is what we're
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, It's like, okay, well it's not. He's just not
blowing hot air. He's he means what he's saying. And
I think the guys know that already with Coach Harball
and what he says he means. He goes about it
every each and every day, I mean coaching here last
year with the coaching internship. I seen him behind closed doors.
I've seen him in meetings and what he's preaching to
the choir in the public. He's preaching to the choir
behind closed doors. And like you said, when you see
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a guy come in. I keep talking about it, the
physical as the physical aspect of Martin Hampton. How big
he is, how physical he is, I'm telling you now.
And I was a hitting safety. I prided my game
on being physical, right, being able to come into the
box play after play after play, and the only thing
that's more demoralizing than having to chase around Lamar Jackson
is having to tackle of running back for four quarters,
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who you know, wants all the smoke, who he wants contact,
He's seeking out contact, and you got to make a
business decision. It's like, hey, do I want to do
I want my uh lay him to stay in tact
I want to make this tackle right. And it's a
true thing. Like it's guys, look at these players like
the superheroes, but they're all human at the end of
the day. And when you walk into the stadium with
a team that coach is building right now that's very physical.
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You can have all the fancy buzz and whistles, you
can have the speed outside, you can have the jet sweeps.
But when you got a team that's coming in with
the offensive line like the Chargers do right, and of
running back not just one, but two that are very
physical runners like when Mario, when Marion comes out of
the game, here comes Na. It's like you're not getting
a break, right. So when you have that that wears
and tears, not only like the four quarters, but over
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the season on teams.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, and you know that that actually is if you
were going through strengths and weaknesses. Like that's one of
the concerns with with a Marian is he sought out contact.
He wants hits, and it's like love it, appreciate it.
It's maybe just let's go fifty Percent's dial it back
a little bit because obviously, but the crazy thing is, guy,
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not only do not miss a game? Really snap right,
dude was just he just would bounce right back up
and I think I'm right back at it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And I think that's why Najir hair is being here
is so big for him because he's coming in with
a veteran. He's coming in with a guy who's built
similar to him, similar running style right in a way
coming out of Alabama, and then you see his career
he's been healthy. Yeah, right, So he's a guy that
he can he's a vet that he can lean on
and say, so, what is it? What are you doing
to take care of your body? Who works on you?
What's your regimen? How do you see this? Like, Okay,
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if you're running on the sideline and there's two defensive
backs coming at you, this isn't college. Maybe gain an
extra yard and step out to save your body from
that contact. Right now, if you're at the goal line,
that's a different situation. You're low on your shoulder, You're
gonna do whatever it takes to get that extra end
to get get into the end zone. But he's coming
into a situation where a veteran that he can learn
from and I think will benefit a lot in the
long run.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, and I think you know, three down back, I'm
talking about a guy that had twenty five or more
touches in eight of his twelve games, and he's eighty
career targets, two drops, and I know the Chargers posted
it on their social media feed. Go ahead and watch
his past, bro, Like that's so for all the people
that are like, well, should take the receiver and take
the back. It was a deep running back draft. It's like,
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not like this. There's not the guys that can do
it all that can catch the ball, that can pass
pro they can be a hammer that have explosiveness. I
wish thought I had it, but I know we had
a ton of explosive runs, which you know, explosives consider
ten or more yards, and I think he was second
or third in explosive runs. So it's it's everything you know,
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And I think that's But for me, we've already kind
of talked a lot about Marinehampton, so we don't need
to get too deep into it. But to me, it
just kind of set the tone of this is what
we're all about, this is who we're gonna get. And
then you mentioned Trey Harris, like, if he doesn't get hurt,
he's probably a first rounder. If not, he's in that
that same window of where you know, Higgins got drafted
right there at the start of Day two as a
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guy that was one hundred and fifty yards ahead of
everybody else in the NCAA when he went down. I
mean he was so he was on pace for sixteen
eighteen hundred yard season, just mind boggling numbers in the
SEC playing for All miss And you know, again just
speaking to what you did out there, Juliel, build the room,
you know, build the wide receiver room. We always talk
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about it in terms of a basketball team. Right to me,
you get you now have your power forward. Trey Hair
is a power forward man. He likes to be physical,
he likes to mix it up. When you're bumping and
moving downfield, he's the guy that's going up and getting
the ball. He enjoys that, and I think people look
at the time the four to five and it's like
you're perfect, this perfect thing for you to share. Like
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when you're six three and you're a four or five guy,
what's that look like to it?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And it looks like it looks like low four four.
All you see is knees and elbows right like literally
that's all you see. Like he's eating up your ground.
It doesn't matter about his speed, because let's not get
it twisted. Like a lot of people like to look
at the forty and be like, oh, he didn't run
a four three. He didn't run a four four. If
you're six three and you're running four five, four to
five is moving, yeah, okay, Like at the end of
the day, it's moving. Like I've played ten years in
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the league and I've played against four to three guys.
I've played against four four guys that played against four
five guys. At the end of the day, like if
they can get in and out of their breaks, it's
it all looks the same, right, And that's what he
does really, really well. He's a big, physical receiver, but
he can run double moves, he can run posts, he
can run post digs, he can run. He can give
you a dig I seen on one highlight. They motioned
the motion one in he was at two, and then
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they ran one on an over right. And technically, when
you watch film one on the over you're clearing the
zone for a dig. It's called a dag right. So
one ran the over right. So everybody at every corner
and every safety is thinking, this guy is running the dig.
He hit him with a dig, dropped his hips, and
came back out for like a deep out completion. Like
that's not an easy route. You don't run that with everybody.
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Everybody's not able to do that, right. So when you
look at his frame, you look at his size, and
you put a four or five speed behind it. Look,
that's that's a that's a good packet that you have.
And I know everyone wants to four to three and
the four to four, but I've played and I didn't
run a four to five, and I've covered wide receivers
that were four fours and some guys have football speed.
And that's why you got to watch the film.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, that's something that George said in the press or too,
And it's so important because people now have access to
so much advanced analytics and data that they're like, well,
it was all hitches and it was a limited route tree.
It was three routes and it's like and Hortie, you know,
Joe put it perfectly. He said, yeah, but watch the watch,
just watch the routes that aren't hitches and goes and
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curls and you see it and it's exactly what you
just described. Can he dip and can he get in
and out of his breaks? How smooth is it? Changing speeds?
Building speeds back up? And he's he's got all of
that one hundred yards or more ten times out of
his twenty games. And again to me, lad as a
two guard, he can do it all. Man, He's gonna score.
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He can play D. He can handle the ball if
you want him to. Now you've got your power forward Q.
I think we're trying it. Can he be that three
and D guy? You know? Is that kind of and
then you get KeAndre Lambert Smith in the fifth round
and that's kind of your point guard, right, Smaller kind
of gets pushed around a little bit, but if he
gets free, lookout, man, that's where that that four to
three time shows up. You mentioned Gadsden and you know
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I think in terms of tight end, you look at
what they have. You got Tucker Fisk and block his
tail off. You got Will Disley, one of the three
best blocking tight ends in the league. You needed the athlete,
I mean, because I felt like oftentimes we talked a
lot about man, it'd be great to get Stone Smart
out there a little bit more and get a little
more reps for the athlete at the tight end position.
This is a joker, you know, this is this is
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a guy that was a wide receiver converted tight end
fifty eight percent of his snaps and the slot thirty
two percent in line, nine percent out wide. Like he's
he's your athlete. Don't talk about his blocking. They say
he's capable blocker, that he's fine, You're not turning it down.
But that's that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And then it's crazy because you have two catching tight
ends or you have tighter conkling in the game and
you have Okay, we're looking at twelve personnel, right, so
who who is the safety going to come down to? Now?
Teams have to play you in nickel, which means you
have to take a lineback out of the game, but
in twelve personnel, you create extra running lanes, so you
still have a strong running game. Now, if you come
in and you stay with Bass, then we spread you
out and now we're attacking you in the past. If
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you coming with Nickel trying to defend the past because
we have two pass catching tight ends, now you can
run the game. So it's it's chess, man, it's not checkers,
and the Chargers are really really good at doing that.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, So those are the offensive players. Branson Taylor, you know,
I wish I could share. I don't know if you
want to share anything. On the big tackle, A lot
of Pittsburgh looks like he's just trades. Giant dude, two
year starter, two knee injuries probably one of the reasons
why he slipped. But you know, former basketball players six
six three, twenty thirty three and.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Charms, that's what do you have for you. So there
we go.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Those are your offensive players. Get to the defense, and
obviously on a bigger picture, the defense as a whole.
With Jesse Minner, well what a treat Julia coach Minner
joining us right now. And I'm going to start with
this coach because I bite your style. Man, I don't
know if I don't know if coaches get to choose
their own gear, but he was wearing a quarter zip
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last year and I had my eyes on it, like
I got a figure off how to find that. They
took me a while. I finally tracked it down, got one,
And now you're coming with the best looking hoodie that
we've seen?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Is that all you? Is that what they get? No?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This is uh, you know, shout out to the equipment room.
You know, they give us the good stuff and like
to wear what's comfortable and what sort of fits fits
my style. So it's a good give us great options,
and so shout out to them.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, it's a good style.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean it's the powder of blue, I think. I mean,
you're a good looking dude, but the power blue and
the yellow, that's a combination.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That I have.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It looks good on anybody, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
We saw just I'll start with some of the free
agents that signed, and it was interesting listening to Benjamin
Saint Chu's kind of talk about how we got here
and obviously starting at Michigan. And but the one thing
that really stood out is something you hear a lot,
and he's like, I just you know, I know how important.
This moment in my career is a pivot point, and
coach Minner just seems to always have guys in the
right spot and doing what what are their strengths? Kind
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of take us through how you do that. There's so
many different guys. How can you get all of them
to be in the right place and doing the right
things that play to their strengths.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, it's a player driven game, and I think
I think when you realize that, you understand that. I
don't know if as a young coach I fully understood
that it's about it's about taking the people that you
have available and not complaining about what you don't have,
not worrying about what you might have the next year.
It's like, what do we have for this this particular moment,
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what's available to us? What can they do well? What
are their strengths? Where do we need to maybe protect
them at times? And to me, that's just how how
try to learn the game. And and so it's not
it's not magical, it's not always perfect. But I think
I think that guys now have a belief in how
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we play and what we're trying to do that uh,
they make me look good more than I make them
look good.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So great questions of great answer. So, coach, I got
a question for you. I was talking on the podcast
before you came on. We were covering Jamari right, and
I talked. I was saying, how he plays really really
square to the line of scrimmage, and Money was like, well,
explain that to you know the is who don't understand
what being playing square means? Right? Can you explain in
just a better depth than I did, how much it
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means to have a guy who can take up to
play square to the line of scrimmage low send the
gravity and what that can do by creating a new
line of scrimmage for your defense.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, to me, it's it's upfront. Is about, you know,
creating a new line of scrimmage, creating knock back on
the offensive line. And so what what Jamari is able
to do is at times play with penetration through gaps
and shooting gaps, at times play square, take on double teams,
and when when we talk about playing square and big,
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it's like if you were if you were watching the
game from the end zone, behind our behind our defense,
in my opinion, to be good, you would you would
want to be able to read everybody's jersey number as
the plays going on, and guys that get turned, guys
whose shoulder turn you have more of an opportunity to
get washed, get pushed down by offensive line, which creates
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movement for them. They're now creating movement, they're creating a
new line of scrimmage. And so the ability to play
square knock the offensive line back clears things up for
the second level, clears things up for the third level.
And everything about being good on defense starts with the
ability having guys up front to be.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Able to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And so we're super excited about him and the guys
we added in free agency, some of our returning players
that we feel we can be improved on the D
line as well.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
If we just stick with Jamari. It's you know, it's funny.
Is someone you know, we cover the draft and it's
all the build up and you've got months, so you've
got a million different This guy's top one fifty and
this is the depth and how they rank, and it
just seemed like when Jamari got picked based on where
he was slotted on all of those lists, everybody just
start they lit up, They glow. Hey, you watch Derek
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Carr and this guy pops off the tape. It's when
you described him, it sounded like Poona Ford. It almost
sounded like you were describing exactly what Poona did. So
how do you identify those guys? And why judging by
the contract you got poon On last year and where
you drafted Jamari, why maybe are they not seen valued
is high?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, I'm not sure about the last part.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think you know, teams certainly certainly have their own
style of evaluations, their own style of defense that they're
trying to play for us. It's like you've got to
be big enough to hold up, so there's a size
requirement needed. And then to me, it's like, do you
have good enough feat to be able to be athletic
to push the pocket, to win one on ones on
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guards or centers in the passing game. And when you
watch his film, you know he's it's really cool because
he's played really in two different systems.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
In college.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He played at Houston in a very penetrating get up
the field, calls havoc. He was very successful doing that.
And then he goes to Oregon, a defensive system that
you know I have seen a bunch over the years
on tape, their guys play square at times, their two gapping.
They also do some movements. And so what he's been
asked to do the last two years and been able
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to put on tape really jump off the tape at us.
As you mentioned, I mean, yeah, we we're watching a
lot of a lot of times it happens you're watching
a guy, another guy starts showing up.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
On the tape.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Then you then you do your evaluation on him, and
it just you know, sort of just makes everything make
make great sense of the type of player he is.
To me, it's great value for us at the spot
we got him at, you know. And and I think
he's got a chance to come in and be immediate contributor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I do.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I do see some similar qualities to Poona and his
skill set and and major shout out to Puna Ford.
I mean the way the way that he played this
past year. He took a chance on us as coaches,
as an organization. Uh, super happy for him and his
family for for what he was able to get.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
And so it's like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Do got to find a find a guy that can
maybe replace those things. And feel great about Jamari and
excited to get him here over this next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Just speaking to Poona and getting the deal, and like
you said, great, I mean, played his tail off and
was just an incredible reason for the team success. How
does that help you in free agency when something like
that happens and a guy ends up getting a deal
like that, coming here on a prove it deal.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, you know, I think we had a couple guys
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah. Really, you know, I think Kristin Folten the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just just the respect and love I have for both
those guys when they come in. You know, you when
you go through a season together, you become really really close.
I mean you're you're in the trenches, you're counting on
each other, you're working together, you're working really hard. And
so both those guys, you know, we kind of pointed
out of like, hey, let's get him here. Yeah, they
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were certainly on maybe prove it type of contracts that
whatever that is, and both certainly have now you know,
help help their own futures, their own families futures with
the deals that they got.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So so it does it makes you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Know, like like Ben talking earlier, you know, it makes
him see a couple of those type of guys, and
it's like, Okay, now I'm kind of I kind of
want to put myself in that position. And so, uh
it's something that we did talk about with some of
the guys of the ability to come here and and
hopefully be put in position to take advantage of your
skill set. And yeah, so it was a good selling
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point having a few guys like that, and then and
then you know, and then ultimately you know, Elijah and
was kind of in the same boat, and that was
when we were we were able to re sign. So
you always you always want to try to try to
resign all those guys. The way it works, you can't
resign everybody. That's just the nature of salary cap and
and uh, the way the league works. But uh, man,
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just happy for those guys, Happy for those guys and
how they played them and their families now, happy that
we got some of them back, uh, and then happy
that we're able to kind of add some new ones
and see if we can see if we can do
that for a couple more guys this year.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm sure you can't coach, you can uh. So I'm late.
I was undrafted, right, and obviously safety, and you guys
played a lot of safeties with the safety rotation with Dringwin,
Elijah A. Lowhi allouned during to play close to the
line of scrimmage. And for those who may not be
from Marrie with r J Mickens right a six round
draft pick out of Clemson. And if you're RJ and
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you're watching this this podcast and you want an opportunity
to make this squad you'r a late round draft pick,
you see that they do use safeties a lot in
this In his defense, obviously, special teams is majority of
what he's going to get the opportunity to show what
he can do. But what are you looking for in
a young safety? Like how versatile does he? Does he
have to be? What do you see and what makes
you light up about a young safety like this guy?
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I trust him. I want to see him out there
make plays.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, and and and kind of the way the way
that I look at safeties is there's there's a couple
of different types. There's the types that are more maybe
back guys first, where when you're playing split safeties and
and guys in the post they have the ability to
be an eraser, they have ball skills, they have anticipation,
they're really good tacklers in the open field. That's what
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I see with RJ. He also does have the versatility,
so he's kind of got a little bit of combination
of both types of guys. But you know, you look
at our roster and it's and really all three of
those guys have some versatility, but a couple of them
are maybe built better to stay back to not be
as close at times. They can still get the guys
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down if they break through. They got great route anticipation,
they got great ball skills, they got great communication skills,
and then you got a guy like DJ, where the
closer you can get that guy to the ball, the
better he is. And it doesn't matter if you just
knew where the ball was going, you'd want to put
him at the point of attack. And so that's what
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we try to do with him. Teams know that, so
at times they do things away from him or whatever.
But he is really impactful when he's up close, when
he's attacking, when he's playing fast and physical and free.
He's great in the run game. So when you need
when you're playing with some of these lighter boxes that
by playing split safety you need a nickel or a
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guy from the perimeter that can come in late and
be a really physical presence in the run game. And
so you know, we have a lot of versatility now
in that room.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
You mentioned it special teams, but also just hey, come in,
learn those backspots first. I think when you learn that first,
and then and then maybe have the ability to move
forward as he develops.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
One thing during the draft that you'll hear and I
just feel, you know, I'm sure fans love it, but
there's so much coming at them, is there? Oh, this
is a great corner for them because they play zone
x percent of the time. They play a lot of
quarters and and so I look at at bridges and
just kind of looks like a Pressman corner. And then
they say, oh, the Chargers play more zone than almost.
So kind of walk us through if you don't mind.
(26:38):
We love kind of doing this with people that listen
and watch they as people are talking about these how
they describe you versus how you see yourself and what
you're looking for in a corner in a zone corn,
a boundary corner, a pressman corner, and why you're drafting
these guys are signing these guys.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know, it goes back a little bit to the
first question of like you take what you have and
you utilize what their skill sets are. So you know,
if I'd been in rooms where you got a bunch
of really good man guys, guess what our man percentages
would probably be a lot higher. So I think you're
I think at corner you're always trying to draft guys
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that can play man first, that have that ability to
match up on all the elite receivers that we have
to defend, but also have some sense. And I don't
think you can be a scheme where you play exclusive
against the quarterbacks that we play against. It doesn't matter
what the coverage is. You can't play the same coverage
over and over again without them eventually figuring out the holes,
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the weak spots, whatever. So you know, whether you're spinning
zones or whether you're spinning man. To me, it's like,
it's what you have, it's what your players are good at,
it's what they're best at.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
It's what you know.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Maybe in a situation where you can sprinkle something in
that you haven't done as much because it may.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Catch them by surprise.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So I would like to play more man, but I
also I'm also gonna always do what our guys do
well and try to put them in position to be successful.
So when when we're looking at corners in the draft,
I do think it starts with the ability to play man,
but also having some sense. He is a very versatile
piece in the secondary. He has started games at both
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corner and safety. He's a really good open field tackler,
and and so that ability once again all these guys
to move around to play different positions. When you're at
this level and you know from being it's there's there's
a numbers game, and you may have ten dbs on
your roster for an entire season, and you're gonna have
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guys that go down. And I've always told Clink and
I our secondary coach works so well together because if
our if our starting whatever safety or corner goes down,
I want the next best defensive back into the game,
and it and it's whatever whoever that is, whatever position
they're on, pakersand the next best guy into the game.
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So guys that have the versatility, you know, Ben's the
same way Ben's played in the slot before, he's played outside.
D Jack has played all over the secondary and his time.
Uh tar Heeb did that as a rookie, and so
really just the versatile pieces. Uh but make no mistake
about it. I do think at corner it starts with
being able to cover people. And uh so there's a
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little bit of like, well they're a zone team, and
I hope you know that stays out there as the narrative.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We'll keep pushing it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Most definitely, I got one more for Kyle Canard right.
SEC Player of the Year, National Player of the Year
falls around four And to me, I was telling the money,
I think he's one of the steals of the draft,
just what he brings in aspect of past rushing. When
you look at a guy like him, and obviously I
don't from what I've watched, he's not every right now,
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He's not a first and second down guy. I see
him as like a NASCAR package guy, right, pin your
ears back, get after the quarterback third down. Do you
see that's Do you see the similarities in what I'm
saying about him when you watch his tape when you
evaluated him and what you're getting out of him as
a pass.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Rusher, Yeah, I mean you know, there's no there's nothing
that replaces production. And when you look at his production
in the SEC, SEC, you know, when you got to me,
it's like there's there's the big ten in the SEC.
However you want to rank him, I'm not. I'm staying
out of that argument. But the SEC always leads the
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NF the draft and picks. Of course, you know they
had a tackle go with the fourth pick in the
draft that this guy lined up against in rush against
and had some really good opportunities, some really good one
on ones. And so the production speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You don't become SEC Defensive Player of the Year or
win the Nigirsky Award if you're not a really dominant
player in that conference.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And uh so I do.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I do think his path early is as a rusher,
but I also think his game really translates to to
how we play on every down. He's walking into a
room with two really strong veterans to learn from, a
young guy that's a sending that's also a guy to
learn from, and I think there's a lot of similarities,
maybe not in their play style, but truly super productive
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college player and the sack numbers and things like that.
Same thing with Kyle, and so I think you know,
Kyle was at another school, an older player. Sometimes those factors,
for whatever reason, may hurt a guy sliding in the draft,
But we couldn't be more excited to get him whatever
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whatever spot we were in. That's a guy that I
know myself and Dylan Roney, who works with our edges,
we had targeted as a guy we really liked and
so super excited to get him and excited to see
the impact that I think he'll make for us.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You kind of two other draft picks sort of, I mean,
just based on playing time in Colston and a boy
Be so kind of walk us through their development. I mean,
Colston's different because of the injury, but a boyd Be.
It felt like coach Elston had said, hey, this is
probably a developmental pross he total set right after the draft,
just kind of where he is and what the view
is for each of those guys going into this year.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, justin start with Justin. I mean, this guy, you know,
I know, I know, he's a competitor, and anytime you're
a competitor and you don't play as much as your
competitive self wants you to play, there can be frustrating times.
I give him a lot of credit for keeping his
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head down, working, developing, getting better.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
As the season went on.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And after the season, you know, some of some of
the conversations were just around the ability to make a
big jump from year one to year two, and so
many guys do that. I think it's it's it's more
rare to have the rookies come in and have success,
maybe like the corners were able to do, and it's
more it's more normal to get your feet wet a
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little bit as a rookie and now you know what
it's like, and now you develop, and now your second
year you really step in there. So you know, not
to put super high expectations on Justin uh, but we
have a we do have high expectations for him.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I could not be.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
More proud and excited of the work that he's put in.
He's put on twenty plus pounds since the end of
the season. He's trained with coach Herb quite a bit,
which I'm really excited about because I know the impact
that he can have on guys in their in their development.
And so he's in a great place right now. He's
he's got another really good room. But now I think
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he's he's in a better position physically to do some
of the things that we need him to do. And
he's in a great place going into year or two
to to be able to help.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Us, right.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And then obviously with Junior.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Just yeah, Junior, you know, I think similarly. And then
that's the when you when you pick a guy third round,
you have a couple older linebackers on the team, you know,
I think at this time last year, I mean didn't
really know the development that dayon the track, that dayon
might go on. Obviously super excited about him and what
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he was able to do. And and so Junior, uh
kind of kind of suffered a few I don't want
to call him flukes, because nothing's really a fluke, but
he had an appendectomy right before camp started, missed most
of training camp in and out with a few things.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He's another one that he's spent a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Of time uh here, spent a lot of time with
Coach Herb getting getting back to kind of the training
that I know he's used to and getting his body right.
And another guy that and you said it, I I
told the defensive staff, I mean, I really feel like
in the front seven, it's really for four draft choices,
four young guys where we needed to add younger pieces.
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When you just look at the future of the roster
and how it's built, so super excited about both those guys,
and both will have major opportunities to help us.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
All right, get you on this just a quick one.
I know, defensive side of the ball, but you try
to figure out who all these undrafted free agents are
and going through and watching, I don't think I've ever
been so excited on a highlight pack at just Stebo
Clots and those full back blocks. I mean, I don't
know if you had a chance to is there is
there any reason to get that excited about it. I mean,
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I know it's not the most physical conference in the
Big twelve, but man, that dude just wrecked people as
a full back. It was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, those guys are hard to find, and I
mean there's you know, you look at you look at
a couple of the top fullbacks in the NFL, and
it's it's people taking people from other positions trying to
train them to do that, which which obviously we've done
with Scott and he did a great job as a
two way player last year, you know, kind of filling
that role. But anytime you get you get some guys
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like that. You know, just excited to see it in
training camp, you know, once the pads are on and
and uh see the see the physicality of players like that.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
When you when you when.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You build an offense like we do, it only makes
the defense better because you can't be a physical defense
without practicing against a physical offense. And so I think
we have a great benefit practicing against what our guys do,
both in the run game, in the past game justin
Herbert all the weapons now that that Joe I think
did a phenomenal job in the draft, just helping the
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roster in general. You know, it's not an offense first
defense thing. It's it's how can we add great players
to make the team better. Uh, team success overrides everything.
So very excited about all the guys we were able
to add and and look forward to getting them here
next weekend with Rickie Minni Caamp.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, we're excited as well. Coach asked you for a
lot of time, you gave it to us. Certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Thanks, Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you guys, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Right, Julia, Well, good way to kind of get the
off season program started with one of our favorite coaches.
Coach men are just so insightful, really, you learn something
every time you sit down with him. Chargers incredibly lucky
to have him here because we keep We said it
last year and we're gonna say it again this year.
I just I feel like, ain't gonna be long, man,
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Ain't gonna be long before that guy gets the head job.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I agree with you. We were talking about it, like
what he did with the defense last year, the pieces
he had to plug in when injuries happened, and he
touched on a little bit and just you know, using
players at their strength their weaknesses, and that's not an
easy thing to do, right A lot of coaches aren't
able to do that. And that's why he's one of
the best in the game right now.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And I think if I could just focus on one
thing he talked about for me, it's a boy be
and because there was production there at Alabama, and you
get excited about him coming in from that kind of
program with that sort of production, and you heard coach
Elston say, yeah, he's more of a developmental player, and
that's exactly what it was. So to hear that he's
ready to take that next step. You saw it in
the SEC and man, that would be a huge get
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for them, along with Caldwell, along with Hand and all
those guy Jones, the guys that they signed, because we
know how important that middle of the line is to
the All right, well, that's recap again on the draft.
There's eighteen udfas when all these rookies get out here,
we're going to keep breaking it down, keep moving forward. Hopefully, Julia,
we see you real soon. So going to be maybe
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a little while as he embarks upon another phase of
his professional career, but we'll always be here, ready and
willing to have you back to break it all down.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Appreciate your money being a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
All right, everyone, enjoy it. We'll be back again next
week and we'll be talking about more and more of
these young players as they start to arrive in the
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Late fifteen to ten touched up.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right, Welcome to Chargers Weekly. Here at the boat
with jaliel Adaie post draft, the post press conference, getting
ready for the first bit of offseason activities, rookie camp,
all that stuff has come up in the next couple
of weeks. We got our list of eighteen undrafted free
agents that have been brought in. But Jalil, since it
was pretty much Chris and me doing the post round
(00:33):
draft wrap up, figure, it's important to get you and
on this thing and kind of talk about your thoughts
on the hall that Joe Ortiz and Chad Alexander and
all those guys came up with and what they're walking
into the season with in terms of rookies. Just maybe
your overall perspective on all the guys that they.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Got, all right, when you just just look at the
guys that they picked, right, they failed avoid in every
position that we even talked about, you know, previously weeks
on the pod right right, starting off with Marion Hampton.
You just see who he is. We talked about him
several times, big physical running backs, quick fast, he checks
all the boxes, right, He's a guy that you know,
Jim Harball and those guys want to build this offensive
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around they want a big, physical running back, and they
got him in with the first round pick. We talked
about it before. We talked about the d tackle Mari right.
So he's big, stout, keeps his shoulder square to the
line of scrimmage right. He plays very square. He has he.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
For people that are listening to they may not know
what that means when you.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So when you play square right as a defensive lineman,
you never want your shoulders turned to the sideline right,
because then you just get washed by and you create
lanes for running backs to run. He's a guy that
plays with physical solocent and gravity. His hands are on
he's square to the line of scrimmage, so he can
shock and shed at any direction that he wants to,
and he does that really good. I watched a lot
of his film when they drafted him. I was like, okay,
let me look at him. And he's double teamed a lot,
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and he's holding his anchor that coach call it the
anchor point, right, So he's eating up to and then
he's able to get skinny when he needs to to
defeat the block and make a lot of plays in
the backfield. Yeah, and I think just just looking at
their top three, we talked about they like hit it
out the park and you look at receiver, right, you
look at Trey and what they did with Trey Harris,
big physical guy, and he's in the SEC. So he's
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seeing the best of the best defensive backs weekend and
week out. So when you're watching that film to be
able to evaluate him, it's not a hit or miss.
It's like, listen, he's going against top competition weekend, week out,
very very fast. Gets for being as tall he is
and lank as he is, he gets in and out
of his breaks really really well. And then you move
over to Kyle Right, we talked about him and I
was like, hey, uh, SEC defensive player of the year
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in the conference and in the nation. To fall that far,
I just I don't know how he felt that far,
but I'm happy that he did. Right. We talked about
him being in the package, the NASCAR package, and you
have just your your guys that are just going on
third downs. We're not worried about to run, We're just
coming after the quarterback. And I think they did a
really really good job just addressing those positions that we
talked about a lot of times throughout prior to the
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draft and going to get those guys. And then you
look at the tight end position, right, we talked about
that a lot and we were, hey, it was gonna
be first round, its gonna be second round. But they
did their work, they did a due diligence and they
found a guy who they feel like, you know, we
said it was a deep tight end draft, right, and
they and it was, and they were able to get
their first four picks that they wanted, well they think
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that that they needed. And then he was still he
was there, he was available floor to guy. I know
the high school. He went to a very prestigious high school,
big body type guy, big rated catching radius for for
for Herbert. So I think they knocked it out the
park man, I really do. I can go on and
on if you want me to money.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I wanted to put it out there for yalation.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I'll start, you know what, then.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Then I'll kind of sort of dig in. Now we'll
go player by player, because certainly the one thing that
that you notice, especially you know, the position that you
played at safety, specifically boxed safety kind of like when
you look at Amar and Hampton. The first thing that
jumps out is when he gets an south man, it's
all gas. It's it is a freight truck. I mean,
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it's it's a tractor trailer coming at you. Challenges of being,
you know, a defensive back when you see that come
through the line with the explosion he has the burst
that he has and why that is challenging for you.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, and it's crazy. He's a he's a North Carolina guy.
And the first thing I did I text Trey Boston,
who is a very north He is a strong North
North Carolina guy, played in North Carolina. He's still heavily
involved with that program. And I said, give me your
two cents. He said, jeltl He's one of those running
backs that we would watch on film and we did
not want to tackle on Sunday. That was his exact words, right,
And it's just that physical presence when you come down
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into the box as a box safety, which what I
did majority of my career. You it's almost like a
derreck Henry. You want to get them before the will
start turning, right, If you can meet him at the
line of scrimmage, if you can meet him before you
know he gets his pad square and he's coming downhill.
That's idea when you have a back like a Martin
Hampton who can get in and out of holes quickly.
He reads, he reads the line, he reads the linebackers,
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he's shooting downhill. It's tough for a five ten two
hundred type two hundred pound type safety six foot one
ninety five safety to really want to go in there
and stick your nose in there from four quarters and
when and when that physical battle, it's just it's challenging,
and it truly is so like he is what the
Chargers build. They're franchise on what Harbor bills. His franchise
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on is being tough, physical and tough as nails, and
that's what he brings to the table.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, I mean, that's just so much there. I think
the oh drafted running back in the first round value
and look, values are starting to get so I wouldn't
say out of whack, but you know they got nase
for an incentive laden deal that could push it to
like nine million. But you see the Trey McBride contract,
and I just kind of think about that conversation around
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Quinton a couple of years ago, and it's like ah,
you know, tight end. There's just not enough value there.
And it's like, well, Trey McBride just got nineteen million
bucks a year, George Kittle just got twenty million dollars
a year. Like the the economics of football to me
are so far beyond just not taking the right guy
like it just does, especially at twenty two, like, there's
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no there to me, there's you're already getting a financial
If Omari and Hampton is what we think he can become,
you know you're going to get the bump right away.
If we believe that he can be a top ten
back in this league, a top eight, a top five
back in this league, then yeah, I mean it's it's
worth it. If you take him in the top ten,
you're going to get financial value out of that. And
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I think the other thing too that we brought up
Julil and just kind of from your experience being in
the locker room when you hear a coach and a
coaching staff and just kind of the overall foundation of
a team is physical brutality. That's what we want to
do week in and week out. This to me, when
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he walks through that door and you're a teammate and
you see what he looks like. It's not it's not
five ten one ninety five, it's six foot twenty five.
Like I would assume that goes a long way, like, oh, yeah,
this is what coach said, we're gonna be mm hm
clearly with our first round pick. This is what we're
gonna be.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, It's like, okay, well it's not. He's just not
blowing hot air. He's he means what he's saying. And
I think the guys know that already with Coach Harball
and what he says he means. He goes about it
every each and every day, I mean coaching here last
year with the coaching internship. I seen him behind closed doors.
I've seen him in meetings and what he's preaching to
the choir in the public. He's preaching to the choir
behind closed doors. And like you said, when you see
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a guy come in. I keep talking about it, the
physical as the physical aspect of Martin Hampton. How big
he is, how physical he is, I'm telling you now.
And I was a hitting safety. I prided my game
on being physical, right, being able to come into the
box play after play after play, and the only thing
that's more demoralizing than having to chase around Lamar Jackson
is having to tackle of running back for four quarters,
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who you know, wants all the smoke, who he wants contact,
He's seeking out contact, and you got to make a
business decision. It's like, hey, do I want to do
I want my uh lay him to stay in tact
I want to make this tackle right. And it's a
true thing. Like it's guys, look at these players like
the superheroes, but they're all human at the end of
the day. And when you walk into the stadium with
a team that coach is building right now that's very physical.
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You can have all the fancy buzz and whistles, you
can have the speed outside, you can have the jet sweeps.
But when you got a team that's coming in with
the offensive line like the Chargers do right, and of
running back not just one, but two that are very
physical runners like when Mario, when Marion comes out of
the game, here comes Na. It's like you're not getting
a break, right. So when you have that that wears
and tears, not only like the four quarters, but over
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the season on teams.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, and you know that that actually is if you
were going through strengths and weaknesses. Like that's one of
the concerns with with a Marian is he sought out contact.
He wants hits, and it's like love it, appreciate it.
It's maybe just let's go fifty Percent's dial it back
a little bit because obviously, but the crazy thing is, guy,
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not only do not miss a game? Really snap right,
dude was just he just would bounce right back up
and I think I'm right back at it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And I think that's why Najir hair is being here
is so big for him because he's coming in with
a veteran. He's coming in with a guy who's built
similar to him, similar running style right in a way
coming out of Alabama, and then you see his career
he's been healthy. Yeah, right, So he's a guy that
he can he's a vet that he can lean on
and say, so, what is it? What are you doing
to take care of your body? Who works on you?
What's your regimen? How do you see this? Like, Okay,
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if you're running on the sideline and there's two defensive
backs coming at you, this isn't college. Maybe gain an
extra yard and step out to save your body from
that contact. Right now, if you're at the goal line,
that's a different situation. You're low on your shoulder, You're
gonna do whatever it takes to get that extra end
to get get into the end zone. But he's coming
into a situation where a veteran that he can learn
from and I think will benefit a lot in the
long run.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, and I think you know, three down back, I'm
talking about a guy that had twenty five or more
touches in eight of his twelve games, and he's eighty
career targets, two drops, and I know the Chargers posted
it on their social media feed. Go ahead and watch
his past, bro, Like that's so for all the people
that are like, well, should take the receiver and take
the back. It was a deep running back draft. It's like,
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not like this. There's not the guys that can do
it all that can catch the ball, that can pass
pro they can be a hammer that have explosiveness. I
wish thought I had it, but I know we had
a ton of explosive runs, which you know, explosives consider
ten or more yards, and I think he was second
or third in explosive runs. So it's it's everything you know,
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And I think that's But for me, we've already kind
of talked a lot about Marinehampton, so we don't need
to get too deep into it. But to me, it
just kind of set the tone of this is what
we're all about, this is who we're gonna get. And
then you mentioned Trey Harris, like, if he doesn't get hurt,
he's probably a first rounder. If not, he's in that
that same window of where you know, Higgins got drafted
right there at the start of Day two as a
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guy that was one hundred and fifty yards ahead of
everybody else in the NCAA when he went down. I
mean he was so he was on pace for sixteen
eighteen hundred yard season, just mind boggling numbers in the
SEC playing for All miss And you know, again just
speaking to what you did out there, Juliel, build the room,
you know, build the wide receiver room. We always talk
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about it in terms of a basketball team. Right to me,
you get you now have your power forward. Trey Hair
is a power forward man. He likes to be physical,
he likes to mix it up. When you're bumping and
moving downfield, he's the guy that's going up and getting
the ball. He enjoys that, and I think people look
at the time the four to five and it's like
you're perfect, this perfect thing for you to share. Like
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when you're six three and you're a four or five guy,
what's that look like to it?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And it looks like it looks like low four four.
All you see is knees and elbows right like literally
that's all you see. Like he's eating up your ground.
It doesn't matter about his speed, because let's not get
it twisted. Like a lot of people like to look
at the forty and be like, oh, he didn't run
a four three. He didn't run a four four. If
you're six three and you're running four five, four to
five is moving, yeah, okay, Like at the end of
the day, it's moving. Like I've played ten years in
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the league and I've played against four to three guys.
I've played against four four guys that played against four
five guys. At the end of the day, like if
they can get in and out of their breaks, it's
it all looks the same, right, And that's what he
does really, really well. He's a big, physical receiver, but
he can run double moves, he can run posts, he
can run post digs, he can run. He can give
you a dig I seen on one highlight. They motioned
the motion one in he was at two, and then
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they ran one on an over right. And technically, when
you watch film one on the over you're clearing the
zone for a dig. It's called a dag right. So
one ran the over right. So everybody at every corner
and every safety is thinking, this guy is running the dig.
He hit him with a dig, dropped his hips, and
came back out for like a deep out completion. Like
that's not an easy route. You don't run that with everybody.
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Everybody's not able to do that, right. So when you
look at his frame, you look at his size, and
you put a four or five speed behind it. Look,
that's that's a that's a good packet that you have.
And I know everyone wants to four to three and
the four to four, but I've played and I didn't
run a four to five, and I've covered wide receivers
that were four fours and some guys have football speed.
And that's why you got to watch the film.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, that's something that George said in the press or too,
And it's so important because people now have access to
so much advanced analytics and data that they're like, well,
it was all hitches and it was a limited route tree.
It was three routes and it's like and Hortie, you know,
Joe put it perfectly. He said, yeah, but watch the watch,
just watch the routes that aren't hitches and goes and
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curls and you see it and it's exactly what you
just described. Can he dip and can he get in
and out of his breaks? How smooth is it? Changing speeds?
Building speeds back up? And he's he's got all of
that one hundred yards or more ten times out of
his twenty games. And again to me, lad as a
two guard, he can do it all. Man, He's gonna score.
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He can play D. He can handle the ball if
you want him to. Now you've got your power forward Q.
I think we're trying it. Can he be that three
and D guy? You know? Is that kind of and
then you get KeAndre Lambert Smith in the fifth round
and that's kind of your point guard, right, Smaller kind
of gets pushed around a little bit, but if he
gets free, lookout, man, that's where that that four to
three time shows up. You mentioned Gadsden and you know
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I think in terms of tight end, you look at
what they have. You got Tucker Fisk and block his
tail off. You got Will Disley, one of the three
best blocking tight ends in the league. You needed the athlete,
I mean, because I felt like oftentimes we talked a
lot about man, it'd be great to get Stone Smart
out there a little bit more and get a little
more reps for the athlete at the tight end position.
This is a joker, you know, this is this is
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a guy that was a wide receiver converted tight end
fifty eight percent of his snaps and the slot thirty
two percent in line, nine percent out wide. Like he's
he's your athlete. Don't talk about his blocking. They say
he's capable blocker, that he's fine, You're not turning it down.
But that's that's what he is.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And then it's crazy because you have two catching tight
ends or you have tighter conkling in the game and
you have Okay, we're looking at twelve personnel, right, so
who who is the safety going to come down to? Now?
Teams have to play you in nickel, which means you
have to take a lineback out of the game, but
in twelve personnel, you create extra running lanes, so you
still have a strong running game. Now, if you come
in and you stay with Bass, then we spread you
out and now we're attacking you in the past. If
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you coming with Nickel trying to defend the past because
we have two pass catching tight ends, now you can
run the game. So it's it's chess, man, it's not checkers,
and the Chargers are really really good at doing that.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, So those are the offensive players. Branson Taylor, you know,
I wish I could share. I don't know if you
want to share anything. On the big tackle, A lot
of Pittsburgh looks like he's just trades. Giant dude, two
year starter, two knee injuries probably one of the reasons
why he slipped. But you know, former basketball players six
six three, twenty thirty three and.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Charms, that's what do you have for you. So there
we go.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Those are your offensive players. Get to the defense, and
obviously on a bigger picture, the defense as a whole.
With Jesse Minner, well what a treat Julia coach Minner
joining us right now. And I'm going to start with
this coach because I bite your style. Man, I don't
know if I don't know if coaches get to choose
their own gear, but he was wearing a quarter zip
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last year and I had my eyes on it, like
I got a figure off how to find that. They
took me a while. I finally tracked it down, got one,
And now you're coming with the best looking hoodie that
we've seen?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Is that all you? Is that what they get? No?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
This is uh, you know, shout out to the equipment room.
You know, they give us the good stuff and like
to wear what's comfortable and what sort of fits fits
my style. So it's a good give us great options,
and so shout out to them.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, it's a good style.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean it's the powder of blue, I think. I mean,
you're a good looking dude, but the power blue and
the yellow, that's a combination.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
That I have.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
It looks good on anybody, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
We saw just I'll start with some of the free
agents that signed, and it was interesting listening to Benjamin
Saint Chu's kind of talk about how we got here
and obviously starting at Michigan. And but the one thing
that really stood out is something you hear a lot,
and he's like, I just you know, I know how important.
This moment in my career is a pivot point, and
coach Minner just seems to always have guys in the
right spot and doing what what are their strengths? Kind
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of take us through how you do that. There's so
many different guys. How can you get all of them
to be in the right place and doing the right
things that play to their strengths.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I mean, it's a player driven game, and I think
I think when you realize that, you understand that. I
don't know if as a young coach I fully understood
that it's about it's about taking the people that you
have available and not complaining about what you don't have,
not worrying about what you might have the next year.
It's like, what do we have for this this particular moment,
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what's available to us? What can they do well? What
are their strengths? Where do we need to maybe protect
them at times? And to me, that's just how how
try to learn the game. And and so it's not
it's not magical, it's not always perfect. But I think
I think that guys now have a belief in how
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we play and what we're trying to do that uh,
they make me look good more than I make them
look good.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So great questions of great answer. So, coach, I got
a question for you. I was talking on the podcast
before you came on. We were covering Jamari right, and
I talked. I was saying, how he plays really really
square to the line of scrimmage, and Money was like, well,
explain that to you know the is who don't understand
what being playing square means? Right? Can you explain in
just a better depth than I did, how much it
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means to have a guy who can take up to
play square to the line of scrimmage low send the
gravity and what that can do by creating a new
line of scrimmage for your defense.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, to me, it's it's upfront. Is about, you know,
creating a new line of scrimmage, creating knock back on
the offensive line. And so what what Jamari is able
to do is at times play with penetration through gaps
and shooting gaps, at times play square, take on double teams,
and when when we talk about playing square and big,
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it's like if you were if you were watching the
game from the end zone, behind our behind our defense,
in my opinion, to be good, you would you would
want to be able to read everybody's jersey number as
the plays going on, and guys that get turned, guys
whose shoulder turn you have more of an opportunity to
get washed, get pushed down by offensive line, which creates
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movement for them. They're now creating movement, they're creating a
new line of scrimmage. And so the ability to play
square knock the offensive line back clears things up for
the second level, clears things up for the third level.
And everything about being good on defense starts with the
ability having guys up front to be.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Able to do that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And so we're super excited about him and the guys
we added in free agency, some of our returning players
that we feel we can be improved on the D
line as well.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
If we just stick with Jamari. It's you know, it's funny.
Is someone you know, we cover the draft and it's
all the build up and you've got months, so you've
got a million different This guy's top one fifty and
this is the depth and how they rank, and it
just seemed like when Jamari got picked based on where
he was slotted on all of those lists, everybody just
start they lit up, They glow. Hey, you watch Derek
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Carr and this guy pops off the tape. It's when
you described him, it sounded like Poona Ford. It almost
sounded like you were describing exactly what Poona did. So
how do you identify those guys? And why judging by
the contract you got poon On last year and where
you drafted Jamari, why maybe are they not seen valued
is high?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Yeah, I'm not sure about the last part.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think you know, teams certainly certainly have their own
style of evaluations, their own style of defense that they're
trying to play for us. It's like you've got to
be big enough to hold up, so there's a size
requirement needed. And then to me, it's like, do you
have good enough feat to be able to be athletic
to push the pocket, to win one on ones on
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guards or centers in the passing game. And when you
watch his film, you know he's it's really cool because
he's played really in two different systems.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
In college.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He played at Houston in a very penetrating get up
the field, calls havoc. He was very successful doing that.
And then he goes to Oregon, a defensive system that
you know I have seen a bunch over the years
on tape, their guys play square at times, their two gapping.
They also do some movements. And so what he's been
asked to do the last two years and been able
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to put on tape really jump off the tape at us.
As you mentioned, I mean, yeah, we we're watching a
lot of a lot of times it happens you're watching
a guy, another guy starts showing up.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
On the tape.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Then you then you do your evaluation on him, and
it just you know, sort of just makes everything make
make great sense of the type of player he is.
To me, it's great value for us at the spot
we got him at, you know. And and I think
he's got a chance to come in and be immediate contributor.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I do.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I do see some similar qualities to Poona and his
skill set and and major shout out to Puna Ford.
I mean the way the way that he played this
past year. He took a chance on us as coaches,
as an organization. Uh, super happy for him and his
family for for what he was able to get.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
And so it's like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Do got to find a find a guy that can
maybe replace those things. And feel great about Jamari and
excited to get him here over this next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Just speaking to Poona and getting the deal, and like
you said, great, I mean, played his tail off and
was just an incredible reason for the team success. How
does that help you in free agency when something like
that happens and a guy ends up getting a deal
like that, coming here on a prove it deal.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, you know, I think we had a couple guys
like that.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah. Really, you know, I think Kristin Folten the same thing.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Man.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just just the respect and love I have for both
those guys when they come in. You know, you when
you go through a season together, you become really really close.
I mean you're you're in the trenches, you're counting on
each other, you're working together, you're working really hard. And
so both those guys, you know, we kind of pointed
out of like, hey, let's get him here. Yeah, they
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were certainly on maybe prove it type of contracts that
whatever that is, and both certainly have now you know,
help help their own futures, their own families futures with
the deals that they got.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So so it does it makes you.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Know, like like Ben talking earlier, you know, it makes
him see a couple of those type of guys, and
it's like, Okay, now I'm kind of I kind of
want to put myself in that position. And so, uh
it's something that we did talk about with some of
the guys of the ability to come here and and
hopefully be put in position to take advantage of your
skill set. And yeah, so it was a good selling
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point having a few guys like that, and then and
then you know, and then ultimately you know, Elijah and
was kind of in the same boat, and that was
when we were we were able to re sign. So
you always you always want to try to try to
resign all those guys. The way it works, you can't
resign everybody. That's just the nature of salary cap and
and uh, the way the league works. But uh, man,
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just happy for those guys, Happy for those guys and
how they played them and their families now, happy that
we got some of them back, uh, and then happy
that we're able to kind of add some new ones
and see if we can see if we can do
that for a couple more guys this year.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm sure you can't coach, you can uh. So I'm late.
I was undrafted, right, and obviously safety, and you guys
played a lot of safeties with the safety rotation with Dringwin,
Elijah A. Lowhi allouned during to play close to the
line of scrimmage. And for those who may not be
from Marrie with r J Mickens right a six round
draft pick out of Clemson. And if you're RJ and
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you're watching this this podcast and you want an opportunity
to make this squad you'r a late round draft pick,
you see that they do use safeties a lot in
this In his defense, obviously, special teams is majority of
what he's going to get the opportunity to show what
he can do. But what are you looking for in
a young safety? Like how versatile does he? Does he
have to be? What do you see and what makes
you light up about a young safety like this guy?
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I trust him. I want to see him out there
make plays.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, and and and kind of the way the way
that I look at safeties is there's there's a couple
of different types. There's the types that are more maybe
back guys first, where when you're playing split safeties and
and guys in the post they have the ability to
be an eraser, they have ball skills, they have anticipation,
they're really good tacklers in the open field. That's what
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I see with RJ. He also does have the versatility,
so he's kind of got a little bit of combination
of both types of guys. But you know, you look
at our roster and it's and really all three of
those guys have some versatility, but a couple of them
are maybe built better to stay back to not be
as close at times. They can still get the guys
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down if they break through. They got great route anticipation,
they got great ball skills, they got great communication skills,
and then you got a guy like DJ, where the
closer you can get that guy to the ball, the
better he is. And it doesn't matter if you just
knew where the ball was going, you'd want to put
him at the point of attack. And so that's what
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we try to do with him. Teams know that, so
at times they do things away from him or whatever.
But he is really impactful when he's up close, when
he's attacking, when he's playing fast and physical and free.
He's great in the run game. So when you need
when you're playing with some of these lighter boxes that
by playing split safety you need a nickel or a
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guy from the perimeter that can come in late and
be a really physical presence in the run game. And
so you know, we have a lot of versatility now
in that room.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
You mentioned it special teams, but also just hey, come in,
learn those backspots first. I think when you learn that first,
and then and then maybe have the ability to move
forward as he develops.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
One thing during the draft that you'll hear and I
just feel, you know, I'm sure fans love it, but
there's so much coming at them, is there? Oh, this
is a great corner for them because they play zone
x percent of the time. They play a lot of
quarters and and so I look at at bridges and
just kind of looks like a Pressman corner. And then
they say, oh, the Chargers play more zone than almost.
So kind of walk us through if you don't mind.
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We love kind of doing this with people that listen
and watch they as people are talking about these how
they describe you versus how you see yourself and what
you're looking for in a corner in a zone corn,
a boundary corner, a pressman corner, and why you're drafting
these guys are signing these guys.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know, it goes back a little bit to the
first question of like you take what you have and
you utilize what their skill sets are. So you know,
if I'd been in rooms where you got a bunch
of really good man guys, guess what our man percentages
would probably be a lot higher. So I think you're
I think at corner you're always trying to draft guys
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that can play man first, that have that ability to
match up on all the elite receivers that we have
to defend, but also have some sense. And I don't
think you can be a scheme where you play exclusive
against the quarterbacks that we play against. It doesn't matter
what the coverage is. You can't play the same coverage
over and over again without them eventually figuring out the holes,
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the weak spots, whatever. So you know, whether you're spinning
zones or whether you're spinning man. To me, it's like,
it's what you have, it's what your players are good at,
it's what they're best at.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
It's what you know.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Maybe in a situation where you can sprinkle something in
that you haven't done as much because it may.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Catch them by surprise.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So I would like to play more man, but I
also I'm also gonna always do what our guys do
well and try to put them in position to be successful.
So when when we're looking at corners in the draft,
I do think it starts with the ability to play man,
but also having some sense. He is a very versatile
piece in the secondary. He has started games at both
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corner and safety. He's a really good open field tackler,
and and so that ability once again all these guys
to move around to play different positions. When you're at
this level and you know from being it's there's there's
a numbers game, and you may have ten dbs on
your roster for an entire season, and you're gonna have
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guys that go down. And I've always told Clink and
I our secondary coach works so well together because if
our if our starting whatever safety or corner goes down,
I want the next best defensive back into the game,
and it and it's whatever whoever that is, whatever position
they're on, pakersand the next best guy into the game.
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So guys that have the versatility, you know, Ben's the
same way Ben's played in the slot before, he's played outside.
D Jack has played all over the secondary and his time.
Uh tar Heeb did that as a rookie, and so
really just the versatile pieces. Uh but make no mistake
about it. I do think at corner it starts with
being able to cover people. And uh so there's a
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little bit of like, well they're a zone team, and
I hope you know that stays out there as the narrative.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We'll keep pushing it.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Most definitely, I got one more for Kyle Canard right.
SEC Player of the Year, National Player of the Year
falls around four And to me, I was telling the money,
I think he's one of the steals of the draft,
just what he brings in aspect of past rushing. When
you look at a guy like him, and obviously I
don't from what I've watched, he's not every right now,
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He's not a first and second down guy. I see
him as like a NASCAR package guy, right, pin your
ears back, get after the quarterback third down. Do you
see that's Do you see the similarities in what I'm
saying about him when you watch his tape when you
evaluated him and what you're getting out of him as
a pass.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Rusher, Yeah, I mean you know, there's no there's nothing
that replaces production. And when you look at his production
in the SEC, SEC, you know, when you got to me,
it's like there's there's the big ten in the SEC.
However you want to rank him, I'm not. I'm staying
out of that argument. But the SEC always leads the
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NF the draft and picks. Of course, you know they
had a tackle go with the fourth pick in the
draft that this guy lined up against in rush against
and had some really good opportunities, some really good one
on ones. And so the production speaks for itself.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You don't.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You don't become SEC Defensive Player of the Year or
win the Nigirsky Award if you're not a really dominant
player in that conference.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
And uh so I do.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I do think his path early is as a rusher,
but I also think his game really translates to to
how we play on every down. He's walking into a
room with two really strong veterans to learn from, a
young guy that's a sending that's also a guy to
learn from, and I think there's a lot of similarities,
maybe not in their play style, but truly super productive
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college player and the sack numbers and things like that.
Same thing with Kyle, and so I think you know,
Kyle was at another school, an older player. Sometimes those factors,
for whatever reason, may hurt a guy sliding in the draft,
But we couldn't be more excited to get him whatever
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whatever spot we were in. That's a guy that I
know myself and Dylan Roney, who works with our edges,
we had targeted as a guy we really liked and
so super excited to get him and excited to see
the impact that I think he'll make for us.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You kind of two other draft picks sort of, I mean,
just based on playing time in Colston and a boy
Be so kind of walk us through their development. I mean,
Colston's different because of the injury, but a boyd Be.
It felt like coach Elston had said, hey, this is
probably a developmental pross he total set right after the draft,
just kind of where he is and what the view
is for each of those guys going into this year.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, justin start with Justin. I mean, this guy, you know,
I know, I know, he's a competitor, and anytime you're
a competitor and you don't play as much as your
competitive self wants you to play, there can be frustrating times.
I give him a lot of credit for keeping his
(32:41):
head down, working, developing, getting better.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
As the season went on.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And after the season, you know, some of some of
the conversations were just around the ability to make a
big jump from year one to year two, and so
many guys do that. I think it's it's it's more
rare to have the rookies come in and have success,
maybe like the corners were able to do, and it's
more it's more normal to get your feet wet a
(33:07):
little bit as a rookie and now you know what
it's like, and now you develop, and now your second
year you really step in there. So you know, not
to put super high expectations on Justin uh, but we
have a we do have high expectations for him.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I could not be.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
More proud and excited of the work that he's put in.
He's put on twenty plus pounds since the end of
the season. He's trained with coach Herb quite a bit,
which I'm really excited about because I know the impact
that he can have on guys in their in their development.
And so he's in a great place right now. He's
he's got another really good room. But now I think
(33:45):
he's he's in a better position physically to do some
of the things that we need him to do. And
he's in a great place going into year or two
to to be able to help.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Us, right.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
And then obviously with Junior.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Just yeah, Junior, you know, I think similarly. And then
that's the when you when you pick a guy third round,
you have a couple older linebackers on the team, you know,
I think at this time last year, I mean didn't
really know the development that dayon the track, that dayon
might go on. Obviously super excited about him and what
(34:17):
he was able to do. And and so Junior, uh
kind of kind of suffered a few I don't want
to call him flukes, because nothing's really a fluke, but
he had an appendectomy right before camp started, missed most
of training camp in and out with a few things.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He's another one that he's spent a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Of time uh here, spent a lot of time with
Coach Herb getting getting back to kind of the training
that I know he's used to and getting his body right.
And another guy that and you said it, I I
told the defensive staff, I mean, I really feel like
in the front seven, it's really for four draft choices,
four young guys where we needed to add younger pieces.
(34:58):
When you just look at the future of the roster
and how it's built, so super excited about both those guys,
and both will have major opportunities to help us.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
All right, get you on this just a quick one.
I know, defensive side of the ball, but you try
to figure out who all these undrafted free agents are
and going through and watching, I don't think I've ever
been so excited on a highlight pack at just Stebo
Clots and those full back blocks. I mean, I don't
know if you had a chance to is there is
there any reason to get that excited about it. I mean,
(35:27):
I know it's not the most physical conference in the
Big twelve, but man, that dude just wrecked people as
a full back. It was a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I mean, those guys are hard to find, and I
mean there's you know, you look at you look at
a couple of the top fullbacks in the NFL, and
it's it's people taking people from other positions trying to
train them to do that, which which obviously we've done
with Scott and he did a great job as a
two way player last year, you know, kind of filling
that role. But anytime you get you get some guys
(35:56):
like that. You know, just excited to see it in
training camp, you know, once the pads are on and
and uh see the see the physicality of players like that.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
When you when you when.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
You build an offense like we do, it only makes
the defense better because you can't be a physical defense
without practicing against a physical offense. And so I think
we have a great benefit practicing against what our guys do,
both in the run game, in the past game justin
Herbert all the weapons now that that Joe I think
did a phenomenal job in the draft, just helping the
(36:28):
roster in general. You know, it's not an offense first
defense thing. It's it's how can we add great players
to make the team better. Uh, team success overrides everything.
So very excited about all the guys we were able
to add and and look forward to getting them here
next weekend with Rickie Minni Caamp.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, we're excited as well. Coach asked you for a
lot of time, you gave it to us. Certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Thanks, Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you guys, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Right, Julia, Well, good way to kind of get the
off season program started with one of our favorite coaches.
Coach men are just so insightful, really, you learn something
every time you sit down with him. Chargers incredibly lucky
to have him here because we keep We said it
last year and we're gonna say it again this year.
I just I feel like, ain't gonna be long, man,
(37:12):
Ain't gonna be long before that guy gets the head job.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
I agree with you. We were talking about it, like
what he did with the defense last year, the pieces
he had to plug in when injuries happened, and he
touched on a little bit and just you know, using
players at their strength their weaknesses, and that's not an
easy thing to do, right A lot of coaches aren't
able to do that. And that's why he's one of
the best in the game right now.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And I think if I could just focus on one
thing he talked about for me, it's a boy be
and because there was production there at Alabama, and you
get excited about him coming in from that kind of
program with that sort of production, and you heard coach
Elston say, yeah, he's more of a developmental player, and
that's exactly what it was. So to hear that he's
ready to take that next step. You saw it in
the SEC and man, that would be a huge get
(37:53):
for them, along with Caldwell, along with Hand and all
those guy Jones, the guys that they signed, because we
know how important that middle of the line is to
the All right, well, that's recap again on the draft.
There's eighteen udfas when all these rookies get out here,
we're going to keep breaking it down, keep moving forward. Hopefully, Julia,
we see you real soon. So going to be maybe
(38:14):
a little while as he embarks upon another phase of
his professional career, but we'll always be here, ready and
willing to have you back to break it all down.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Appreciate your money being a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
All right, everyone, enjoy it. We'll be back again next
week and we'll be talking about more and more of
these young players as they start to arrive in the
off season program gets underway. Meanwhile, thanks for watching, Rate Review,
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