August 5, 2025 • 26 mins
Jeff Joniak and Tom Thayer break down the action from Family Fest and recap all the highlights from practice.
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with every passing day the picture gets clearer, the intensity grows,
and the competition thrives, and the coaches demeanor cranks up
a smidge. It's game week for starters, with the Miami
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Dolphins arriving for one day joint practice on Friday before
the Sunday afternoon kickoff at Soldier Field at against the Dolphins. Well,
we enjoyed the practice at Sojier Field on Sunday. Family
Fest was a hit. Tommy Big Crowd twenty three thousand plus.
They were engaged, they were entertained. It was a beautiful day,
nice breeze off the lake, some intense competition as we'll
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get into what was pretty much a scrimmage with contact.
Practice ten was a ten in my book.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How about you enjoyed the practice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I like the work ethic and the workload that he
Ben Johnson and all the coaches challenged every one of
these guys with, whether it's a whole position segment or
you know, just the whole development of this offense. I
think it's encouraging and I think you can get some
great coaching going forward from it. And then I see
guys like Grady Jarrett, T J. Edwards, a couple guys
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man that just impressed me practice in and practice out.
I think a guy like Grady Jared, I think that
you're going to have to reintroduce the badouche as it's
coming back, and it's coming back because of Grady Jarrett.
And I think when you have a couple of guys
like that are super important in their role, whether they
brought in here as a free agent like Grady, or
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a guy that's been around here now for a couple
of years like TJ.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Edwards.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They can do a lot for this defense, and they
can give a lot of confidence in Dennis Allen, but
then they can make the guys next to him better.
I see Dexter Senior making plays because of Grady Jarrett.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I see Dexter.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Senior getting a one on one because they got Grady
concerns and all of a sudden, he's able to engage, disengage,
escape and make.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
A play in a backfield.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the different elements of improvement because some of the
guys that are here, it's fun to see. And then
I see a guy like Austin Booker Jeff developing. He's
fiery and he's developing, and he's kind of got that
snap of confidence both from the head coach, his position coach,
and the defensive coordinator. And then you're kind of feeding
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off some of the other guys that you have in
there that are creating excitement and competition. So just to
mention a couple of guys that caught my eye and
that and that scrimmage that I'm excited to see what
they're doing and where they're going in the near future
against competition coming in all right.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Ben Johnson did meet the media after that practice, he
was stern and serious, you know, about what went on.
He's not shying away about what he sees a lot
of information pouring into the mental buckets of all these players,
as he alluded to, and just what he thought about
the practice at Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We got some good work in.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It was sloppy, sloppier than I'm probably hoping we'd be
at this point. Particularly, we had a couple of really
good practices over the last two and then took us
a little while to get going and hear the pads clicking.
But I thought towards the end we picked it up
and it got pretty competitive there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So with that, I'll go ahead and open it up.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Do you care for.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Continue to fail the ages and things of that age
or where it just looks like.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's yeah, yeah, wait, it's something we're gonna have to address.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
He showed up more today and then it has in practice.
So this was more like a real game. And if
it continues like that, we're not going to win many games.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
How do you evaluate it? It's you know, still like
install learning things, where if it's things that should be
understood and should be issues.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Like yeah, it comes down to I think I've mentioned
a couple of times that whether we're making the same
mistake twice or not, and I felt like I saw
that a couple times today. So I know the saturation
level has gotten there with these guys. They're they're pretty
filled up to the brim with information. But at the
same time, the installs are slowing down, So we do
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expect the execution to be a little bit cleaner as
we as we go from here on out.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Thoughts on Ben, I know you have some thoughts on
Ben and how he sounded after practice and how he
looked during practice.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Okay, so that's kind of a new bend to us
because we usually see Ben after practice, go and watch tape,
and then he does his press conference in the next day. Now,
this is the first time he goes right to the
podium within the seconds of the conclusion of that practice,
and some of that aggravation, man is fresh in his
brain and it's rolling around up there, and he's got
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a thousand things that he needs to address, and that's
all before he sees the tape.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And so I like.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Everything that we get to learn about Ben in this
process of training camp, and you know, his immediate reaction.
He understands things that he's going to be looking for
on tape. And now you talk about he's going to
go to his office and he's going to look at
ninety five plays, and every single one of those plays
may ignite an idea, a thought of what he needs
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to get better with that he needs to correct, what
he needs to use again, or what could possibly be changed.
He understands the competitiveness of each position and see how
guys are fitting into his thought and his plan for
this offense. So I'm glad we got to hear the
post practice Ben, and you know a little different than
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the morning bend.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, whether it be pre snap or post snap or
whatever the case may be, mental errors the ball and
not bounce on the way you want.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The fact is it's all good tape. You use it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But his big thing is, you know, let's not make
that same mistake twice.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And that'll be the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
For players if you can't, if you can't conquer that,
you know you're gonna have a hard time getting on
the football field. In that setting. You got a better
idea also of how the running game's working. And he
was very complementary of a guy like kylem and ung guy.
For example, here here's Ben Jonson.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
He crammed it up in there. He was physical.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, I thought all the runners him, I thought Rosehawn,
I thought swifty, I thought Ian. I thought all those guys,
they were putting their shoulders down and they were running
through contact and if they saw a little crease, that's
where I had a little bit better view than the
other coaches, just seeing holes whether they were there or not.
And I thought those guys were trying to play a
physical brand of football all around.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think one of those guys said, obviously maybe his
numbers had the combine didn't pop, but with the pads.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
On a different player, yes, I think so. I'm very
pleased with where he's at. And I think he's a
guy that we're going to be able to trust this fall.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Kyle is a guy we can count on in the fall.
That's that's great news for a seventh round rookie.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He believes in him, and it's it's all the running backs.
They had a rule yesterday that saw each of them
do something very well.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
All right, here's a guy that we can count on
in the fall, and it's still only summertime. So when
you get a compliment like that as a rookie that's
just brought aboard in a new system, that's high praise.
And I think it's a significant statement of what they
think about Kyle Manungai because this is not going to
be a one responsibility backfield. This is going to be
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a backfield that you better have responsibilities of everything that's
going to be asked of you. And I do think
that's that what they realize that out of Manungui. Whether
they're watching an individual drill at practice of running backs
against linebackers, they're asking Kyle Manungai to pick up a
blitzing lot i'm back around a pass blocking responsibility, or
they give them a call on the inside of a
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running play that you have to put your vision and
your willingness to lower your shoulder pads on display.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And Kyle has not disappointed them since then.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And they're not quite done with all the install I
think last week they said they were at nine.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
There's twelve parts to it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
They hope to get it all in before the Dolphins
arrive on Friday, so there's still a lot. I'm sure
their heads are swimming. Tommy how do you as a
player work through that flood.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
You know, you just study, you go through your meetings,
you kind of take into account of everything they're trying
to install for that day. Make sure when you go
out in the field you know exactly your assignments on
every single one of those plays, so you can go
out and if they call them and the defense makes
an adjustment, you know exactly what you're going to do.
But yeah, this is all going to be installed, and
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then we're going to go back to the beginning. And
then when you start thinking in a couple of weeks
of the Minnesota Vikings coming in town, you're going to
go back and look at the defenses that they've been
playing over the last couple of years, and now you're
going to start installing the information that pertains specifically to
that game. And then they'll do it again for the
Detroit game week two. So you're just trying to install
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and put as much on the plate of these players
as you possibly can when you have the luxury of time,
because you do get the chance, you get the chance
to run it, rerun it, repeat it, and do it again.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And the funny thing about install is I learned this
from covering a Super Bowl. Unfortunately it was when the
Packers and knocked the Bears off in the twenty ten
NFC Championship game. But going to the defensive, codner Don
Capers on a zone drop from bj Raji that intercepted
Caleb Handy. He said, we installed that in training camp,
never used the play once until then, and they pulled
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it out just for that down and distance backed up
in your own end. It Soldier Field and he pulled
that out of the hat and it you know, isn't
that something though? Over the course of summer to the
NFC Championship game, you have this one card in your
deck and you pull it out and it turns out
to be a significant play.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Okay, you take everything into a call. You look at
the defense, you look at the offense. The offense is
going to go through a three step drop. Get the
ball out of my hands. I know that pass rusher
is not going to be able to get to the
quarterback and have any effect on him. But if he
clogs a throwing lane, I know that he can drop
off and clog.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
A throwing lane. So what happens they call the play?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
He clogs a throwing lane catches the ball and the
rest is history. So you have to when you're thinking
about that play. Okay, we've installed it. This is the
perfect time we can use it. I know he's not
going to get pressure on a three step drop, but
I know he can clog a throwing lane in the
red zone.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This is why I have tons of respect for coaches
who keep this in their rule index, in their mental
you know, and all the support staff.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
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Cole Comet was also at the podium on Sunday as well. Yeah,
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the benefactor of a really well designed play things that
we anticipate seeing more of from Ben Johnson, who treated
it like a preseason game in many respects. A lot
of fun for Ben and a lot of fun for
cole Comet. The variations that he expects even if something
like this The play was a Caleb Williams throw to
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Cole Comet, a blitz beater Tommy for a twenty five
yard touchdown. Here's Cole.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
One of the many many designs and plays that Ben
has up his sleeve that you know, I think there
gonna be a lot of fun to to run variations
of this year.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I just start to see that the plays of
the sleeve.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I mean, like I know, we talked so much about
it at the beginning and is starting to come out over.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
The Yeah, I think you can see it. I mean
you can see when he's present and installing these plays
and you know, maybe not all of them, we get
a ton of reps up and you guys don't maybe
see all of them this time of year, but you
can see the design and you know the detail of
them and what he wants to get down with each
of these plays. And really cool to see. And I
know everyone's excited to go out there and execute these plays.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And I think you turned to me at that we
were watching that play, and you got a big smile
on your face.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We love that play.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We love that play, whether that's run by a back,
a full back, a tight end, whoever is the recipient
of a wheel route like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's fun to see.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But you know, we just talked about you know, Dom
Capers and having a play in his memory rolodex. That
may be a play that is in the rolodex and
the memory rolodex of Ben Johnson until the perfect time, man,
until when you need it the most, You need a
big play and you want to put it into a
hands of one of your playmakers. And I do think
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that Cole Kmet is one of the playmakers of this offense.
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Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
He was asked about who right now that he feels
he can trust, and you know DJ Moore being in
the right place at the right time and making a play.
Cole Comet, Roman Doonzay and also Alamide's a Kias who's
really looked good too. That is a excellent veteran addition
to this roster. He's had three straight years of at
least five hundred yards receiving wherever he's been last year
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in Washington with a rookie quarterback and Daniels now with
a second year quarterback, a young quarterback in Caleb Williams.
What you've seen out of a guy like Zakias as
that caught your attention as well, because it's a tough
player who loves the block too. You know, the no
block no rock thing is is relevant there.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But I will tell you I'm inspired by a punt
catching ability as well, because this is something here that
you need. A reliable receiver likes the kios, but you
also need a guy that is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sure handed on punt returns.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And maybe he can be that guy from week one
and then when you go through the season and you
sell you have some of the outdoor conditions that bring
some inclimate weather, you need a guy that's a sure
handed as a quality receiver. So I look at some
of these guys that are going to be four phase
guys as well as their part on offense and defense,
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and he's one of them.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Tom there wasn't play by Tyson Bageon. I gotta emphasize
because he threw in a very tight window to J. P.
Richardson over the middle yep well defended. He shook free
and you know if he was tackled. If he's not tackled,
let's just say he wasn't. That's a fifty yard touchdown
catch and run. We talk about catch and run plays.
This kid is making play after play after play and
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he's definitely on the coach's radar. Use the word significant
in terms of how he's played. It's going to still
be hard to make this roster at the receiver position
given the talent the Bears have. But that row with purpose,
with intention, with velocity, at tight spin and JP battling
a defender for what you know, it was a perfect window.
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If he doesn't catch it, he at least gets his
hands out, it could be intercepted. But he caught the
ball and around with it. What did you think of
that play? You know?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I think that's how all receivers are judged is do
they have escapability? And when they don't have great escapability,
can they catch in traffic? Do they have the willingness
to catch when a player is approaching them? And I
think that's what Jp Richardson has shown throughout camp. But
I also admire the willingness of Tyson to pick him out,
aim him out, and make the right throw to give
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him an opportunity to make that type of catch. So
I think you have a variety of things that were
really instrumental in the success of that play between the
quarterback and receiver, our.
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Let's turn to defense, because the defense was very good.
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There's no other way to put it. Dennis Allen has
these guys flying around. You mentioned Austin Booker. I counted
up at least a dozen guys that caught my attention
making a play. Kyler Gordon a sack, nay Sean Wright
the corner, broke up a pass, Tanno passing. Now he
got his hands up on a screen, Tyreek Steverson Stevenson
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flat out went like Superman, taps away a pass near
the goal line.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
As a kias.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The rookie corner from Oregon undrafted, impressing me tys shem Johnson.
He's making plays. He intercepted a deflected pass, sweat was good.
And then when I get to TJ. Edwards, TJ. Edwards
breaking up a pass to Colston leveland that's a hard
assignment for any linebacker with a guy of that size
and athletic ability and the ability to run a round.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So much to talk about here.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You mentioned Javon Dexter, and of course he was the
one that got the safety on DeAndre Swift when they
were starting from the one on a long field first
snap handoff safety. What do you think about what this
defense is looking like? And did I miss anybody?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You know one thing about it is Dennis Allen is
really an interesting architect of defensive skills, and he puts
everybody in a position where there's a lot of thinking
amongst the offensive blockers to know who their responsibility is.
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I like the fact that there's no hesitation in the
game of Jaquan Brisker, and we had concerned and we talked.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
About that done.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He does not have any lack of willingness to do
whatever his assignment is on a specific play. DeAndre Swift
breaks up and through the second level, and there Jaquan
Brisker wraps some up great form tackle and brings them
to the ground. And so I'm super encouraged when I
see that. But the variety of the personnel that you mentioned,
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and the developing skills of some of these young guys,
and then the creativeness of Dennis Allen, I'm excited to
see how this defense is going to change week to
week and how he's going to be able to, as
you use your word, deploy a lot of these guys
from different levels, whether it's Takwan or whether it's Kyler,
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whether it's a corner blitz, whether it's the positioning of
a defensive end. It confused the offensive tackle if he's
still responsible for him, or is it responsible for an
interior rusher. So I like to see what I'm seeing
out of this defense.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You know, I hate to keep bringing it up, but
I have since the last couple of years, just the
secondary overall. How important is it that that group be
what it already is and grow with this new coordinator.
You got a lot of confidence back there for the
rest of the defense. I mean I know the game
is in the trenches, but what this division is all about?
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What the Bears are going to be facing this season
from great quarterbacks on the road or at Soldier Field,
and the amount of weaponry that they're going to have
to deal with. How important is this group even without
Jalen Johnson out there yet he was on the sidelines
our first sight of him, and he should be ready
for Week one by all accounts. But what these guys
are doing and what we're learning about some of these
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veterans like Nayshawn Johnson, Nick McLeod, some other guys, young
guys that could have a shot at this roster.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You know, when you look at the receivers within the division,
receivers around the league especially, you know you're gonna play
Cincinnati and you're gonna play a quarterback out in Baltimore
and stuff. The cornerback position is probably the most important
singular position on a defense in order to do the
things creatively that you want to do. But the intelligence
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of Jaikwan, Kevin Baier and Kyler Gordon give you an
option to not only stress the width of the field
in the passing game, or they can possibly come and
present immediate pressure on the quarterback. And that's the cool
thing about this defense is it's probably the longest cornerbacks
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I've ever seen in Bears uniforms since I've been here,
either as a player and a broadcaster. And if some
of these guys can play into the air, their traits,
their looks, it's going to be an incredible corner defense.
But you got to make sure that you have that
interior the defense that can take up the width of
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the field, support the outside of the field, and make
tackles when they have that one on one responsibility.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Now, which brings me to the linebacker level. Teach Edwards
at the podium on Sunday as well asked if he's
closer to knowing where he will play middle linebacker or
a weak side linebacker.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I mean, I really don't know yet. I think we're
kind of you both remain and I are still kind
of doing both, and I honestly it really helps us
learn the defense and kind of just understand big picture
wise what we're doing. I think we're both comfortable in
either role. But and and as you know, as we
start getting closer here, those things will start to get
determined and decided in that way, the guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Coach just basically said that the offense for a lot
of them, the offense will sloppy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You guys take some gratification in that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, I think in general, right, the team, we
we operate to a certain standard and so I think
for the most part, right, you know, they have their
times where there's also things that you know, we're getting
lined up late. You know, there's always things that we
can be better with. And I think as a defense, right,
you want to kind of cause as much chaos as
you can while being simple in what you're doing. You know, again,
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we have so many battles already in practice where were
you know, you got a good feel for what they
do a little bit. But you know, Ben, he's always
thrown some different things in there to kind of mix
it up as well. And you know, and DA is
going to continue to install, and we're going to continue
to kind of do a bunch of different things to
see see what works. And I think for the most part,
you know, we're doing a decent job of handling it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So, as he said, he and Tremaine Edmunds have been
very visible making plays. Edmunds almost had an interception Sunday
as well. Does it matter to you who plays where?
And it could it be possible that based on who
you're playing, one guy might play middle linebacker one week
and one might play week side linebacker the next, or
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within the framework of a game.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
These guys are interchangeable. They can do anything that's asked
of them.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
They've already proved if they can and whether you're going
to move Tremayner around or TJ. I think these guys
are super capable NFL linebackers that they can play anywhere
Dennis Allen has them line up. They're intelligent players, they
got a world of experience. They know the offenses they're
facing at an NFL level, So you know, you could
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just you could line up these guys wherever they want
to line up and they could play exactly what's demanded
of them.
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Speaker 4 (23:38):
You know, I think the receiver position is interesting because
I'm really excited to see now there's been about three
practices that Luther Burden has shown why he was drafted
where he was drafted, what he can do to compliment
the receiver position and the offense as a whole. And
I think the more comfortable Luther Burden becomes in this offense,
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I think it it opens the door of just opportunities
for Colson Loveland, Cole Kmett and all the other guys
on this football team that have the DJ Moore and
Roman Duneesa obviously, but to me, it's Luther Burden has
really stepped up to where we all hoped he would.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Over you know this period of time. Are you excited
to see the Dolphins?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I can't wait I can't wait because it's gonna be nice.
You know, players always say, oh, I got to hit
somebody else. You know, I don't want to get in
a stance against you know, if I'm Jonah Jackson or
if I'm Joe Tuney, I don't want to get a
stance anymore right now against Grady Jarrett. Well, here your
wish is coming. And it's not only for the experienced veterans.
It's also for the young guys because this can be
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not only confusing because they're not seeing the defense that
they practice against over the last three or four months,
but the person that's in a stance across from them
looks differently. The defensive back that's in a different coverage
position against the wide receivers are they don't look the same.
And so whatever position you play, something's gonna look different.
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Just make sure that you understand your assignments, that you
get into your playbook. And then when you get a
chance to get a snap play like heck.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And you're gonna to a tongue of Ioloa defensively gets
rid of the ball quickie quickly. And then Josh Allen,
the ragning MVP in the league, man that is great
tape to watch because you're not going to face them
in the games.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm certain, right right, that's gonna be awesome again.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
The modern day NFL, the way they go about these
joint practices and the way they run them. You know,
you get the really important reps and a practice for
the ones, and then you get the equally important reps
for the guys that are fighting for a spot.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
On this roster, and it means just as much to them.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
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with every passing day the picture gets clearer, the intensity grows,
and the competition thrives, and the coaches demeanor cranks up
a smidge. It's game week for starters, with the Miami
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Dolphins arriving for one day joint practice on Friday before
the Sunday afternoon kickoff at Soldier Field at against the Dolphins. Well,
we enjoyed the practice at Sojier Field on Sunday. Family
Fest was a hit. Tommy Big Crowd twenty three thousand plus.
They were engaged, they were entertained. It was a beautiful day,
nice breeze off the lake, some intense competition as we'll
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get into what was pretty much a scrimmage with contact.
Practice ten was a ten in my book.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How about you enjoyed the practice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I like the work ethic and the workload that he
Ben Johnson and all the coaches challenged every one of
these guys with, whether it's a whole position segment or
you know, just the whole development of this offense. I
think it's encouraging and I think you can get some
great coaching going forward from it. And then I see
guys like Grady Jarrett, T J. Edwards, a couple guys
(01:45):
man that just impressed me practice in and practice out.
I think a guy like Grady Jared, I think that
you're going to have to reintroduce the badouche as it's
coming back, and it's coming back because of Grady Jarrett.
And I think when you have a couple of guys
like that are super important in their role, whether they
brought in here as a free agent like Grady, or
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a guy that's been around here now for a couple
of years like TJ.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Edwards.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They can do a lot for this defense, and they
can give a lot of confidence in Dennis Allen, but
then they can make the guys next to him better.
I see Dexter Senior making plays because of Grady Jarrett.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I see Dexter.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Senior getting a one on one because they got Grady
concerns and all of a sudden, he's able to engage, disengage,
escape and make.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
A play in a backfield.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So the different elements of improvement because some of the
guys that are here, it's fun to see. And then
I see a guy like Austin Booker Jeff developing. He's
fiery and he's developing, and he's kind of got that
snap of confidence both from the head coach, his position coach,
and the defensive coordinator. And then you're kind of feeding
(02:51):
off some of the other guys that you have in
there that are creating excitement and competition. So just to
mention a couple of guys that caught my eye and
that and that scrimmage that I'm excited to see what
they're doing and where they're going in the near future
against competition coming in all right.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Ben Johnson did meet the media after that practice, he
was stern and serious, you know, about what went on.
He's not shying away about what he sees a lot
of information pouring into the mental buckets of all these players,
as he alluded to, and just what he thought about
the practice at Soldier Field.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We got some good work in.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It was sloppy, sloppier than I'm probably hoping we'd be
at this point. Particularly, we had a couple of really
good practices over the last two and then took us
a little while to get going and hear the pads clicking.
But I thought towards the end we picked it up
and it got pretty competitive there.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So with that, I'll go ahead and open it up.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Do you care for.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Continue to fail the ages and things of that age
or where it just looks like.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It's yeah, yeah, wait, it's something we're gonna have to address.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
For sure.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
He showed up more today and then it has in practice.
So this was more like a real game. And if
it continues like that, we're not going to win many games.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
How do you evaluate it? It's you know, still like
install learning things, where if it's things that should be
understood and should be issues.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Like yeah, it comes down to I think I've mentioned
a couple of times that whether we're making the same
mistake twice or not, and I felt like I saw
that a couple times today. So I know the saturation
level has gotten there with these guys. They're they're pretty
filled up to the brim with information. But at the
same time, the installs are slowing down, So we do
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expect the execution to be a little bit cleaner as
we as we go from here on out.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Thoughts on Ben, I know you have some thoughts on
Ben and how he sounded after practice and how he
looked during practice.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Okay, so that's kind of a new bend to us
because we usually see Ben after practice, go and watch tape,
and then he does his press conference in the next day. Now,
this is the first time he goes right to the
podium within the seconds of the conclusion of that practice,
and some of that aggravation, man is fresh in his
brain and it's rolling around up there, and he's got
(05:10):
a thousand things that he needs to address, and that's
all before he sees the tape.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And so I like.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Everything that we get to learn about Ben in this
process of training camp, and you know, his immediate reaction.
He understands things that he's going to be looking for
on tape. And now you talk about he's going to
go to his office and he's going to look at
ninety five plays, and every single one of those plays
may ignite an idea, a thought of what he needs
(05:39):
to get better with that he needs to correct, what
he needs to use again, or what could possibly be changed.
He understands the competitiveness of each position and see how
guys are fitting into his thought and his plan for
this offense. So I'm glad we got to hear the
post practice Ben, and you know a little different than
(06:01):
the morning bend.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, whether it be pre snap or post snap or
whatever the case may be, mental errors the ball and
not bounce on the way you want.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
The fact is it's all good tape. You use it.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But his big thing is, you know, let's not make
that same mistake twice.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And that'll be the difference.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
For players if you can't, if you can't conquer that,
you know you're gonna have a hard time getting on
the football field. In that setting. You got a better
idea also of how the running game's working. And he
was very complementary of a guy like kylem and ung guy.
For example, here here's Ben Jonson.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
He crammed it up in there. He was physical.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I mean, I thought all the runners him, I thought Rosehawn,
I thought swifty, I thought Ian. I thought all those guys,
they were putting their shoulders down and they were running
through contact and if they saw a little crease, that's
where I had a little bit better view than the
other coaches, just seeing holes whether they were there or not.
And I thought those guys were trying to play a
physical brand of football all around.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think one of those guys said, obviously maybe his
numbers had the combine didn't pop, but with the pads.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
On a different player, yes, I think so. I'm very
pleased with where he's at. And I think he's a
guy that we're going to be able to trust this fall.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Kyle is a guy we can count on in the fall.
That's that's great news for a seventh round rookie.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
He believes in him, and it's it's all the running backs.
They had a rule yesterday that saw each of them
do something very well.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
All right, here's a guy that we can count on
in the fall, and it's still only summertime. So when
you get a compliment like that as a rookie that's
just brought aboard in a new system, that's high praise.
And I think it's a significant statement of what they
think about Kyle Manungai because this is not going to
be a one responsibility backfield. This is going to be
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a backfield that you better have responsibilities of everything that's
going to be asked of you. And I do think
that's that what they realize that out of Manungui. Whether
they're watching an individual drill at practice of running backs
against linebackers, they're asking Kyle Manungai to pick up a
blitzing lot i'm back around a pass blocking responsibility, or
they give them a call on the inside of a
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running play that you have to put your vision and
your willingness to lower your shoulder pads on display.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And Kyle has not disappointed them since then.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
And they're not quite done with all the install I
think last week they said they were at nine.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
There's twelve parts to it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
They hope to get it all in before the Dolphins
arrive on Friday, so there's still a lot. I'm sure
their heads are swimming. Tommy how do you as a
player work through that flood.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
You know, you just study, you go through your meetings,
you kind of take into account of everything they're trying
to install for that day. Make sure when you go
out in the field you know exactly your assignments on
every single one of those plays, so you can go
out and if they call them and the defense makes
an adjustment, you know exactly what you're going to do.
But yeah, this is all going to be installed, and
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then we're going to go back to the beginning. And
then when you start thinking in a couple of weeks
of the Minnesota Vikings coming in town, you're going to
go back and look at the defenses that they've been
playing over the last couple of years, and now you're
going to start installing the information that pertains specifically to
that game. And then they'll do it again for the
Detroit game week two. So you're just trying to install
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and put as much on the plate of these players
as you possibly can when you have the luxury of time,
because you do get the chance, you get the chance
to run it, rerun it, repeat it, and do it again.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And the funny thing about install is I learned this
from covering a Super Bowl. Unfortunately it was when the
Packers and knocked the Bears off in the twenty ten
NFC Championship game. But going to the defensive, codner Don
Capers on a zone drop from bj Raji that intercepted
Caleb Handy. He said, we installed that in training camp,
never used the play once until then, and they pulled
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it out just for that down and distance backed up
in your own end. It Soldier Field and he pulled
that out of the hat and it you know, isn't
that something though? Over the course of summer to the
NFC Championship game, you have this one card in your
deck and you pull it out and it turns out
to be a significant play.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Okay, you take everything into a call. You look at
the defense, you look at the offense. The offense is
going to go through a three step drop. Get the
ball out of my hands. I know that pass rusher
is not going to be able to get to the
quarterback and have any effect on him. But if he
clogs a throwing lane, I know that he can drop
off and clog.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
A throwing lane. So what happens they call the play?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
He clogs a throwing lane catches the ball and the
rest is history. So you have to when you're thinking
about that play. Okay, we've installed it. This is the
perfect time we can use it. I know he's not
going to get pressure on a three step drop, but
I know he can clog a throwing lane in the
red zone.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
This is why I have tons of respect for coaches
who keep this in their rule index, in their mental
you know, and all the support staff.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
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Cole Comet was also at the podium on Sunday as well. Yeah,
(11:14):
the benefactor of a really well designed play things that
we anticipate seeing more of from Ben Johnson, who treated
it like a preseason game in many respects. A lot
of fun for Ben and a lot of fun for
cole Comet. The variations that he expects even if something
like this The play was a Caleb Williams throw to
(11:37):
Cole Comet, a blitz beater Tommy for a twenty five
yard touchdown. Here's Cole.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
One of the many many designs and plays that Ben
has up his sleeve that you know, I think there
gonna be a lot of fun to to run variations
of this year.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, I just start to see that the plays of
the sleeve.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
I mean, like I know, we talked so much about
it at the beginning and is starting to come out over.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
The Yeah, I think you can see it. I mean
you can see when he's present and installing these plays
and you know, maybe not all of them, we get
a ton of reps up and you guys don't maybe
see all of them this time of year, but you
can see the design and you know the detail of
them and what he wants to get down with each
of these plays. And really cool to see. And I
know everyone's excited to go out there and execute these plays.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And I think you turned to me at that we
were watching that play, and you got a big smile
on your face.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We love that play.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We love that play, whether that's run by a back,
a full back, a tight end, whoever is the recipient
of a wheel route like that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's fun to see.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But you know, we just talked about you know, Dom
Capers and having a play in his memory rolodex. That
may be a play that is in the rolodex and
the memory rolodex of Ben Johnson until the perfect time, man,
until when you need it the most, You need a
big play and you want to put it into a
hands of one of your playmakers. And I do think
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that Cole Kmet is one of the playmakers of this offense.
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Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
He was asked about who right now that he feels
he can trust, and you know DJ Moore being in
the right place at the right time and making a play.
Cole Comet, Roman Doonzay and also Alamide's a Kias who's
really looked good too. That is a excellent veteran addition
to this roster. He's had three straight years of at
least five hundred yards receiving wherever he's been last year
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in Washington with a rookie quarterback and Daniels now with
a second year quarterback, a young quarterback in Caleb Williams.
What you've seen out of a guy like Zakias as
that caught your attention as well, because it's a tough
player who loves the block too. You know, the no
block no rock thing is is relevant there.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But I will tell you I'm inspired by a punt
catching ability as well, because this is something here that
you need. A reliable receiver likes the kios, but you
also need a guy that is.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sure handed on punt returns.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And maybe he can be that guy from week one
and then when you go through the season and you
sell you have some of the outdoor conditions that bring
some inclimate weather, you need a guy that's a sure
handed as a quality receiver. So I look at some
of these guys that are going to be four phase
guys as well as their part on offense and defense,
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and he's one of them.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Tom there wasn't play by Tyson Bageon. I gotta emphasize
because he threw in a very tight window to J. P.
Richardson over the middle yep well defended. He shook free
and you know if he was tackled. If he's not tackled,
let's just say he wasn't. That's a fifty yard touchdown
catch and run. We talk about catch and run plays.
This kid is making play after play after play and
(14:46):
he's definitely on the coach's radar. Use the word significant
in terms of how he's played. It's going to still
be hard to make this roster at the receiver position
given the talent the Bears have. But that row with purpose,
with intention, with velocity, at tight spin and JP battling
a defender for what you know, it was a perfect window.
(15:09):
If he doesn't catch it, he at least gets his
hands out, it could be intercepted. But he caught the
ball and around with it. What did you think of
that play? You know?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I think that's how all receivers are judged is do
they have escapability? And when they don't have great escapability,
can they catch in traffic? Do they have the willingness
to catch when a player is approaching them? And I
think that's what Jp Richardson has shown throughout camp. But
I also admire the willingness of Tyson to pick him out,
aim him out, and make the right throw to give
(15:38):
him an opportunity to make that type of catch. So
I think you have a variety of things that were
really instrumental in the success of that play between the
quarterback and receiver, our.
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Let's turn to defense, because the defense was very good.
(16:13):
There's no other way to put it. Dennis Allen has
these guys flying around. You mentioned Austin Booker. I counted
up at least a dozen guys that caught my attention
making a play. Kyler Gordon a sack, nay Sean Wright
the corner, broke up a pass, Tanno passing. Now he
got his hands up on a screen, Tyreek Steverson Stevenson
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flat out went like Superman, taps away a pass near
the goal line.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
As a kias.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The rookie corner from Oregon undrafted, impressing me tys shem Johnson.
He's making plays. He intercepted a deflected pass, sweat was good.
And then when I get to TJ. Edwards, TJ. Edwards
breaking up a pass to Colston leveland that's a hard
assignment for any linebacker with a guy of that size
and athletic ability and the ability to run a round.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
So much to talk about here.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You mentioned Javon Dexter, and of course he was the
one that got the safety on DeAndre Swift when they
were starting from the one on a long field first
snap handoff safety. What do you think about what this
defense is looking like? And did I miss anybody?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
You know one thing about it is Dennis Allen is
really an interesting architect of defensive skills, and he puts
everybody in a position where there's a lot of thinking
amongst the offensive blockers to know who their responsibility is.
(17:40):
I like the fact that there's no hesitation in the
game of Jaquan Brisker, and we had concerned and we talked.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
About that done.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
He does not have any lack of willingness to do
whatever his assignment is on a specific play. DeAndre Swift
breaks up and through the second level, and there Jaquan
Brisker wraps some up great form tackle and brings them
to the ground. And so I'm super encouraged when I
see that. But the variety of the personnel that you mentioned,
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and the developing skills of some of these young guys,
and then the creativeness of Dennis Allen, I'm excited to
see how this defense is going to change week to
week and how he's going to be able to, as
you use your word, deploy a lot of these guys
from different levels, whether it's Takwan or whether it's Kyler,
(18:32):
whether it's a corner blitz, whether it's the positioning of
a defensive end. It confused the offensive tackle if he's
still responsible for him, or is it responsible for an
interior rusher. So I like to see what I'm seeing
out of this defense.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You know, I hate to keep bringing it up, but
I have since the last couple of years, just the
secondary overall. How important is it that that group be
what it already is and grow with this new coordinator.
You got a lot of confidence back there for the
rest of the defense. I mean I know the game
is in the trenches, but what this division is all about?
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What the Bears are going to be facing this season
from great quarterbacks on the road or at Soldier Field,
and the amount of weaponry that they're going to have
to deal with. How important is this group even without
Jalen Johnson out there yet he was on the sidelines
our first sight of him, and he should be ready
for Week one by all accounts. But what these guys
are doing and what we're learning about some of these
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veterans like Nayshawn Johnson, Nick McLeod, some other guys, young
guys that could have a shot at this roster.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You know, when you look at the receivers within the division,
receivers around the league especially, you know you're gonna play
Cincinnati and you're gonna play a quarterback out in Baltimore
and stuff. The cornerback position is probably the most important
singular position on a defense in order to do the
things creatively that you want to do. But the intelligence
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of Jaikwan, Kevin Baier and Kyler Gordon give you an
option to not only stress the width of the field
in the passing game, or they can possibly come and
present immediate pressure on the quarterback. And that's the cool
thing about this defense is it's probably the longest cornerbacks
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I've ever seen in Bears uniforms since I've been here,
either as a player and a broadcaster. And if some
of these guys can play into the air, their traits,
their looks, it's going to be an incredible corner defense.
But you got to make sure that you have that
interior the defense that can take up the width of
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the field, support the outside of the field, and make
tackles when they have that one on one responsibility.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Now, which brings me to the linebacker level. Teach Edwards
at the podium on Sunday as well asked if he's
closer to knowing where he will play middle linebacker or
a weak side linebacker.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I mean, I really don't know yet. I think we're
kind of you both remain and I are still kind
of doing both, and I honestly it really helps us
learn the defense and kind of just understand big picture
wise what we're doing. I think we're both comfortable in
either role. But and and as you know, as we
start getting closer here, those things will start to get
determined and decided in that way, the guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Coach just basically said that the offense for a lot
of them, the offense will sloppy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
You guys take some gratification in that.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, I think in general, right, the team, we
we operate to a certain standard and so I think
for the most part, right, you know, they have their
times where there's also things that you know, we're getting
lined up late. You know, there's always things that we
can be better with. And I think as a defense, right,
you want to kind of cause as much chaos as
you can while being simple in what you're doing. You know, again,
(21:44):
we have so many battles already in practice where were
you know, you got a good feel for what they
do a little bit. But you know, Ben, he's always
thrown some different things in there to kind of mix
it up as well. And you know, and DA is
going to continue to install, and we're going to continue
to kind of do a bunch of different things to
see see what works. And I think for the most part,
you know, we're doing a decent job of handling it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
So, as he said, he and Tremaine Edmunds have been
very visible making plays. Edmunds almost had an interception Sunday
as well. Does it matter to you who plays where?
And it could it be possible that based on who
you're playing, one guy might play middle linebacker one week
and one might play week side linebacker the next, or
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within the framework of a game.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
These guys are interchangeable. They can do anything that's asked
of them.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
They've already proved if they can and whether you're going
to move Tremayner around or TJ. I think these guys
are super capable NFL linebackers that they can play anywhere
Dennis Allen has them line up. They're intelligent players, they
got a world of experience. They know the offenses they're
facing at an NFL level, So you know, you could
(22:52):
just you could line up these guys wherever they want
to line up and they could play exactly what's demanded
of them.
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today on this year podcast, What Do You Got for?
Speaker 4 (23:38):
You know, I think the receiver position is interesting because
I'm really excited to see now there's been about three
practices that Luther Burden has shown why he was drafted
where he was drafted, what he can do to compliment
the receiver position and the offense as a whole. And
I think the more comfortable Luther Burden becomes in this offense,
(24:01):
I think it it opens the door of just opportunities
for Colson Loveland, Cole Kmett and all the other guys
on this football team that have the DJ Moore and
Roman Duneesa obviously, but to me, it's Luther Burden has
really stepped up to where we all hoped he would.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Over you know this period of time. Are you excited
to see the Dolphins?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I can't wait I can't wait because it's gonna be nice.
You know, players always say, oh, I got to hit
somebody else. You know, I don't want to get in
a stance against you know, if I'm Jonah Jackson or
if I'm Joe Tuney, I don't want to get a
stance anymore right now against Grady Jarrett. Well, here your
wish is coming. And it's not only for the experienced veterans.
It's also for the young guys because this can be
(24:49):
not only confusing because they're not seeing the defense that
they practice against over the last three or four months,
but the person that's in a stance across from them
looks differently. The defensive back that's in a different coverage
position against the wide receivers are they don't look the same.
And so whatever position you play, something's gonna look different.
(25:12):
Just make sure that you understand your assignments, that you
get into your playbook. And then when you get a
chance to get a snap play like heck.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And you're gonna to a tongue of Ioloa defensively gets
rid of the ball quickie quickly. And then Josh Allen,
the ragning MVP in the league, man that is great
tape to watch because you're not going to face them
in the games.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm certain, right right, that's gonna be awesome again.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
The modern day NFL, the way they go about these
joint practices and the way they run them. You know,
you get the really important reps and a practice for
the ones, and then you get the equally important reps
for the guys that are fighting for a spot.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
On this roster, and it means just as much to them.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
All Right, it's going to wrap us up. Thanks everyone
for listening. We're back with you later this week. And
for TMT there, I'm Jeff Yoniak.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Everybody, please subscribe now on the show bears Official Apple, Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Bear down, everybody, hmm
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