Analyzing the WR Room - Cleveland Browns Daily - 7.2.25 - Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts,
Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Live on a First Friday Miracle edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily.
Also a mail bag edition of Cleveland Browns Daily. I
am merely Bo. He is the great z Oftentimes when
I when when I see you, there is we have
very many similar likes. And as I was walking in today,
you're wearing a shirt that initially I thought was the

(00:59):
I thought it was Jim Heart. It's what I thought
it was. I am, I was, I'm unfamiliar with with
with what is on your shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's why I wore it so that you could get
familiar and you're gonna thank me a lot later. I mean,
I just want you to look at the things that
are happening on my screen.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
This is them just grooving.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
This is a tallow disco. This is the soundtrack of
the summer. Dude, You're gonna want to load up your
playlist with these guys. They're unbelievable. Got the SIGs. Oh yeah,
and they just roll every shorts and like, oh my goodness,
the guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Look at them.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Look at this one, Look at this one. Let me
zip this up for you. Are these guys actually it's yes, yeah,
that's look at them. Oh this is good, it's very good.
You're very excited these guys. Wait, wait, one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Guys things move and then he's got a car horn.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Is this move?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah it is? There comes so you gotta gut. You
got a guy in a la cost it's these two.
There's just it's just a dude. And yeah they're just
a duo. Yeah, it looks like they're really happening. I mean,
I do like them. There they are if you're on
the YouTube stream. I like the look of them. It's

(02:15):
pretty Yeah, it's pretty good. I think without the visual
it's lacking. I think you need to know. I can
tell you and then look at that. I don't know
it's a visual.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
How they take a little campari little campari sip at
the end, let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Do we think these are? We found out as I've
done the whole backstory. Okay, but we I also came
in here and I was told that that there was
some Montana dynasty range. I was told by my wife.
I didn't want to it was was and turns out
there from Missouri. Yeah, but this I know all about, Dude,
this I am. I'm well versed. I do you know
who these guys are? As kepna? Do you know these
guys are?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I didn't until Z said something, but I've been able
to find plenty of on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Did you guys up? Who these guys are?

Speaker 7 (02:55):
And I are unfamiliar?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
They're blowing up.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
It just showed up. And now it's everywhere. If you
go on watch one of their videos, it's gonna be everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
What if they're not blowing up? And no, they are
blown on? Hold on, what if they're not? And it
just happened to come across your for you and and
that's and and you're in a world where you're just
being fed it. But it isn't real. It is real.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
And in fact, there's somebody who's written like they're the
history of the guys. They've actually been around for like
twenty years. I've read all this, dude, I'm telling you,
they've been around for like twenty years.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You have a newborn. You're reading the History of mind.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Sit around mine, enterprise a little respect. I feel like
this guy is right up here.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I love the guy. The guy with the bust, She's
everything i'd want to be. Billy. I love that guy.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I saw a guy driving on four to eighty in
a custom orange and pink.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Chopper who look like uncle Babyilly.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And I put my phone up to snap a pick
for you, and he turned and he looked at me,
and I was.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Just like, h too bad.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm not gonna do it. Oh but I'm gonna find
that guy again. Does anybody know I'm talking about it?
If anybody listening to see he was on four eighty,
so he's in the Cleveland area.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
He's driving around, he's got to be local.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
He didn't have a helmet on, so it's like he
was on a longsome track change. Yeah, and he was unblue,
but these guys are on blue, so, like, you.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Know, it reminds me a little bit of This reminds
me of like Ze Sue.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh yeah, they're they'd be great with I think Su
would drive with these guys right now. The hops into
them half is currently.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Because of you? Or did he find him on his
own because of me.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
And then he got into it, and then he loves it.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
You might be like the one man pump machine and
you're getting all the folks to because nobody, nobody.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Here thirty bucks, the best thirty dollars, spending my wife's beat.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Boxes wearing it. But they found it because of you. Right, yes, Okay,
so I we just have good at that you are.
I'm not saying it came to me, but I don't
know that there should be as surprise as I've never
heard of him, as I hadn't heard of him. I
hadn't heard of.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Him from as of two weeks ago, and now they're
my favorite. Who is you don't reminds me a little?
Hundred songs on Spotify? They're on Spotify.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean it's like a disco e thing little
it's a tallow disco and this is the punch to practice.
I can do that. Do you remember remember when he.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Happened?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
This is the way, A little bit of that way.
More people like well, No, I'm not saying saying power.
I'm just saying like he had a moment where he
was being mentioned on on prominent things and we had
like on with case of each and uh and yeah,
I just was curious if if yeah this. I love
the look of this guy.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
He's got the cigarette. He's got a cigarette, little gold.
He's a Chador fan, right, Yeah, he's got the wrist up. Yeah,
sure he does. I mean the hair is incredible, incredible,
and their love of Campari is incredible.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Everything about it is just it's really great. And I
don't mind a Campari.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
It's everywhere, dude, I'm telling you right now, if you
just go in your search put.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
I'm not saying disco. Well, but that's that's very specific.
He's gonna cut. I don't know that they're everywhere yet.
I think they're trending in that way based on No,
they're trying evidence that we have.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Everybody's calling it the soundtrack of the Summer, dude, the
sun soundtrack of the.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
S Yes, there's a million people talking about that. None
about heard such a thing. That's okay, you're what's happening.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
That's what it takes sometimes, people helping people, and that's
what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, so I'll do a little deep dive on these guys.
I'm excited about it.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
They have some great songs, move which you just heard
the clap song Monogamy. They have a song called monogamy,
which is a great message in relationships. Yeah, they've got
it's I'm telling you, they've got a lot of I
drive everywhere with it now like it is my It
is my soundtrack of the summer, this.

Speaker 8 (06:49):
One.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Because I'm winning, You're winning. They're winning an Elon one
because this came from your for you page.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes, yeah, probably the best thing that's ever come from
my for you page. Well, the rest of it is
a bit of a tough sell, tough cell. Yeah, for
you pages.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
But these people are exciting, so well, I'll get him
playing this weekend, so I play for the kids.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
They're not into it. They're like my kids yesterday, true story,
that they're not hopping the car.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I would be surprised. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
You can't have a bad time listening to this music
and picturing this guy doing his thing.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
This guy no offense, take him or leave him. But
it's the guy Robert. That's the guy where it's all
about Robert. And I think the key to it is
you have to watch it. I think you. I think
my early impression is I need to see him doing
it to fully appreciate, to get into it.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
But then once you have that image then and you're
just listening in your car, it's great. I could recommend
him more to anybody. I can tell you it's sweeping
Chicago right now. There is a movement.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I told you this.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I an't got the sought out because you're like, did
you hear about it from you? I mean, come on, look
at this guy.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, if you're on the YouTube stream now you're seeing
look at that man operate.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Look at that operation right there.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I had to like peak male perform I feel like
he could thrive with uh with with George Bazan and
oh god, he is like, yeah, the best life. Well,
guess what peacock in around town?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Guess who is currently working. And I know this to
be true because I heard it from the source currently
working on having them play Turkey Camp twenty six.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, it would only be the hoff would be the
one that would be the one they are. Do you
think they're Italian?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, understand Well, first one, I think it's very fair
to not I haven't asked if they're not Italian five times.
I think it's fair to ask if they're not Italian.
They are, even if I did ask five times, it's
more than fair they are. Guess it's not Little z
Not everything on the internet's real, so you're enterprise that
it's not. That's why. By the way, when if they

(08:50):
are real and they are Italian, I think it's going
to be a tough sell to get them to rule
Wisconsin for Turkey Camp, I think that's going to be
a very tough sell.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
No, I think they're gonna be quite pleat it right now.
They've got a booking agent. They're touring right now in Europe.
I mean, it's unbelievable. Here's what you want the story.
I'll give you the story.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You get. People are getting what they bargained for today.
Goodness gracious, would.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
You look at this on Trusty Steeds in Adida's Italian
track suits.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Should have been THELIS tells me they're not real Italians.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
That's a fair point. Those are beautiful, though, I really
like to get one of those.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
They are, but I don't think they're Italian though. Mine.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Enterprise is the aesthetic, universe and musical dream world of
tourin Raised producer Andrea Tarne born in nineteen eighty five
draws from the phyzy synth power to Tallow that defined
the era, a groovy disco adjacent basslines, hypnotic drum patterns
and cosmic keyboard odyssees that traverse continents and then here
we go. However, taking inspiration from his artist girlfriend's bold
figure to style and his drummer Roberto, who took a

(09:48):
weird fashion turn a few years ago, he's more partial
to a piece of retro ath leisure were the result
is often funny, but I'm doing it seriously. It's about
trying to cheer people up. I mean, here we go, dude,
this is what they're all about. I'm just hearing beautiful
things in my years right now. They're playing in Frankfurt
on August fifteenth. This is a cover and they're playing
in Yeah, that's a great They have a couple of

(10:09):
great covers.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
They have Oh my god, self control.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
They have a cover of you Take Myself, Take Take
Take Myself that is crushed it just dyingite. They'll be
in Catania, Italy on September the fifth, which I'd like
to be there, but I will be. That's two days
before the Browns and the Bengals go to go to war.
It's just they're great. I know you're you're laughing at me.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I'm not laughing at you. I've never heard of them
as all over weeks. And what I do find funny
humorous is your steadfast belief that everybody has heard of them,
and this is sweeping the nation that I find entertaining. Yes,
I'm not laughing at you. I find them to be
very entertained.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Here's the crazy thing is that they were like dead
on the vine in twenty one.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You don't say dead on the vine, but all of.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
A sudden something somebody resurrected it and it made its
way to me. And now I'm spreading in the word
and people are loving it. People are absolutely They're all
over it. They're all over it. Yes, July ninth, they'll
be in London for those marxt week. It kind of
makes you want to just go July ninth and just

(11:16):
stay until our game.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Is this the time to visit London in the summer
with the time, I think summer in early fall, I
would think right.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Nonetheless, the truth of the matter is.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
They look great. I like the guy like Roberto. I
like that guy.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
ROBERTA was a lot to like about that guy. There's
a lot to like about that guy.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's gotten an uncle baby Billy Vie has got a
feels like one of those guys who would fit right
in with like Caleb Presley on Sunday Conversation. Uh, he's
like one of those cats who would show up on
eastbounding down six six. Like all of this.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel like if McBride had heard of them, Okay,
just to be just a little context, two hundred and
sixty six thousand followers on Instagram, so like that, like,
they're not Taylor Swift, who, by the way, was it JoJo's?
Who is at JoJo's? My kids hop in the car?
I bet they sprinted, sprinted, tried to get there.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Certain word did work circulating? Chagrin falls that she oh,
yes quick, And it.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Was like wild fire departments all out there. Everybody's out
there keeping law in order.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Let me ask you something. Yeah, but not, I don't
think that the show who he think they've been added
a while You said eighty five, Yeah, well that's what
he's born, so he's forty. I'd say that their peak,
what was their pre peak, because now we're we're a
new peak was maybe like twenty nine do you think.
Do you think it would be exhausting to be Taylor

(12:38):
and Travis? Yes, yeah, yeah, I do too. Yeah, I
think it would be very tough, Like you just want
a meal.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
I take a lot of pictures at JoJo's. My meals
are often interrupted that time.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Is that by a billion? A billion points billion? Maybe billion? Yeah?
Is it like that when you go to JoJo's text
change go around to the girls here, let's.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Get I made that joke to my kids last night
because last time we were at JoJo's, I actually took
a couple of pictures and they had multiple people interrupted
me at dinner to ask me about shador. So I
was joking that I know, I know what it's like
finde and no. They mocked me, and rightfully, so I
was being facetious. Yeah, I think it would be two
points for anybody who can spell that.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think it's really tough. Spell it's with an F,
isn't it? It is f E T I f A
c e T. It starts there and I think it's
to io U s io us. That's trus. Yeah. I
think it would be very exhausting to do to where
to where everything you do? You see why you end

(13:36):
up in these you know, you try to find anything,
and there's nowhere she can go and not be known
like that. She's to that point of I think that's why.
You see, like whether our guys go to Asia. A
lot of our guys go to Asia, you know, in
the off season, we hear a lot of them go
to Japan, they go to Thailand, they go to those places.
You see a lot of European soccer stars go to
South Florida on their holiday because you can kind of

(13:59):
have I in any you know, ye. But there is
no there is no place on the planet globes where
Taylor Swift could in atomanimity. Absolutely not. It doesn't exist,
absolutely not. I hope the people were good to her.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I bet they were. There's reports there were golfing. I
had people from out of town, who are you know,
still connected in towns that they're looking at homes and
sugar and falls.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Welcome to the neighborhood, Come on in, Come on in,
You'll be invited in my first a tallow disco party,
they'll be there.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
How about Lebron golfing here? How about it? Welcome home,
Welcome home? He plays that game better than anybody. A
great time with it.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
By the way, early for thirty years forty when we reconvene, Buddy,
I did twelve minutes in excitement about it.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Now minutes excitement. I don't know how much more buy
in I can give you thirty I've never heard of
them until I walked in. I find the guy on
the I love the shirt. I find the guy in
the left to be great. I think the music's fun.
I think you gotta have the video for it. Sure.
The only pushbacks I gave you was, I don't know
if it's sweeping the nation yet, because we did a

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quick little sample size and five of us haven't heard
of it, and then the other thing to kevskis today
so we hadn't. And then the only cross examination I
did is of the people who are loving it. How
many were introduced to it by you? All of them
were so it could Maybe it is, maybe it will.

(15:25):
I find them appealing.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Right now what I think of it as kind of
but I don't know that, like.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I want to say, they're Taylor Swift. I know if
I'm ready to say that. I think that it's a
it's a fun little thing I think they could take.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
They could give maybe maybe with the in the right hands,
right marketing, they could give, you know, Fallout Boy a
run for their money or something.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It feels a little bit. It feels a little bit
like some of those things that happen where they have
like a bad moment and you have to take full
advantage of this moment. You're there, Yes, but then what's
the next gear. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I just want this guy. I want to show about
this guy.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I want to know. I think that guy needs to
get himself with Danny McBride, and then I think you
can have that. And then I think you take you
take McBride's genius. You go to Italy, Yes, and you
do like that in Italy, Like here's the story. That
guy's the star. It's in Italy. Pick the town doesn't matter,

(16:15):
and under McBride's stewardship, he is a a techno music
producing guy who had a moment in the eighties but
has fallen out of favor and is trying to re
you basically do Eastbounding down except Italy with Discothech.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm there's the show. I do think I just did it.
You're welcome We'll take residuals White loadus season two. Big
miss not having these guys at a pool party one day.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
He looks like the guy who's in that group with
He looks like the guy at the group Where were
they going? What was the name of the town they
were going to? I don't know, but it was north
It was in Sicily, wasn't it. What's the big towns
in Sicily? Isn't it? Wasn't it the main town? Why
am we blanking on this.

Speaker 9 (16:54):
Because that must go to That was a Palermo Palermo, Palermo.
Oh you go to Palermo Palermo and they would go.
He looks like the one guy, does he not?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
He does? He's got that vibe. He does have that vibe.
Definitely has that vibe. Well, this is the most fun
I've had the great Next levels next, Yeah, get your
questions into the fellas at Browns Underscore daily uh and
on the YouTube stream and we will answer those coming
up at two thirty. I can't really transition from that
to Darren Waller being traded. I don't.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well, he's a musician, so there's a natural TV.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I bet Jordan you you've heard Darren Waller is not
a bars not a good one because the kids are saying, yeah,
he's a musician. He was retired, he's now out of retirement,
and now he's the tight end of the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
How about it? Yeah, I don't know about what they're
doing well, Miami, how about it? Does he also was
married to Kelsey Plumb? I believe that's right? Yeah? Is
he kind of dropped on that. I think he messed
that one up. Do I have that right? Bronc.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
They're divorced now, but they were married, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he messed that up.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Miss former client of Sims Simons with him early wasn't
as kind after things got better for him.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
That I'm not a big fan. I hate to see that.
I hate to see anyone disrespect the great Simsey. Did
you guys see speaking of w NBA, did you see
Sophie Cunningham with her comments no you're coming from Indianapolis?
Did you read them? Did you read them or did
you listen? I just saw the one clip, Yeah, so
I think what she was going. First of all, she

(18:30):
called it Cincinnati, not Cleveland, So that there's that part
of it. I think, to me, what she was going
for is why necessarily do we have to be in
NBA cities like, let us stand on our own Because
you mentioned Nashville. She's from Missouri, I think so. I
think that's probably why she mentioned Kansas City. I'm pretty
sure she's from Missouri, so that's probably where you should
get us out of the Midwest. Yeah, and maybe maybe

(18:50):
that's what it's all about. Did you see?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Also speaking of w NBA, Red Panda said, Dude, that's
one of the most many things I've seen Red Panda
multiple times.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I know she's flawless, but age, I've seen her drop
a plate before.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I've never seen an air not a mistake. That's she
dented the it dented the court her fall.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah, how long can you do it? I mean she's
been at it for a while, probably twenty years at least. Right,
how old do you think she is. I'm going to
say she's in her fifties, Okay, I was going to
say fifty sixties. Yeah, gotta be. I mean, she's been
at it twenty years. As long as I've been going
to big time sporting events on the hardwood, She's there,
whether here or at Ohio State. I mean she's been everywhere. Yeah,

(19:40):
I feel like she's been at it for a long time. Man.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
But yeah, you hate to see that. I hate to
see the bean more than fifty. They won't give you
an age on her more than fifty years old. She's
been doing it since the nineties.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Okay, well then she's probably more like sixties. That's when
you know you're old.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
At more than fifty. I mean the picture she could be, Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Tough, it's just a tough string, tough string of injuries
and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm gonna give you two other you know, year olds
that I just saw in the last week. You remember
Brandon Jacobs, did you see this?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
First of all, his son looks like the guy that
squashed Pedro Pascal's head the Mountain in Game of Thrones,
the Mountain. Yes, his sign, his brand Jacobs was six
four to sixty.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, monster, he looks like her.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
He looks like little Zog's next to me, by the way,
Zago's heavenly birthday love Zago.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, a very very nice, most interesting man in the world.
He was a great Zago. But some reason we certainly
could lay claim to that would not allow you to
swing a single solitary club at Olympic fact, and also
walked off the course when I was as you were
about ready to beat him and golf, that's right, it's
a basic play.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Too dark, too dark, can't see, can't see, I can't
see anything, can't finish.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Where what hole were you on like sixteen, in the
middle of the desert Horizona?

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Were you? Like?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
What are we doing? Were you at that at year sixteen?
Were you?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean I didn't start playing until the summer between
my seventh and eighth grade year, so I was in
high school.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Were you old enough to where you could push back?

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, but there's dude zago. There's no there's no pushback.
You push back all you wants. It moves a rhinoceros.
It's going nowhere. And then at Olympic.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Thinking about a man who had like a book that
he would chart his drive times everywhere and like would
get excited about how fast he could get there. No
air condition was not allowed, pe breaks not allowed, like
no stops.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
This is like he was a force of Nature's an
incredible yoke was his at Olympic? Did you what did you?
How did that go, were you like, can I hit one?
Can I hit And it was no.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, And he's not even the member. The member was Jack.
Jack Bieber is like, yeah, of course you can play,
and he's like no.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
One of the great logos and professional golf too, Olympic logos.
Very good. They got a PGA there in a couple
of years.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I feel like it's an open place again. I'll say it,
said it. Tell them boom in the face. I want
to see major golf contested it at wolf Creek. Until
there is a major championship at Wolf Creek, I will
not rest in my quest to make it happen.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't think it's gonna happen. Brother, I mean they're
locked in until the fifties. Fifties the same course as
we've seen a thousand times. Whal Hollow. Yeah, that was brutal.
And there they've moved them a lot of them. They
they used to be US Opens are now being PGA's.
Like they're just flipping and like at least like to
stroll and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
The US Senior Opening I actually watched a little bit.
Was that Broadmoor?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh? Yeah, in Colorado Springs there were some cool holes. Yeah,
that's where Justin Leonard is on my flight. Yeah, it's
sat right next to him to Minneapolis a week ago
on Monday after he played here, and then he must
have been headed there. Yeah seriously one yet quite yeah
yeah quite yeah. Strange follow through always was like a
round his shoulder. Never it was a very flat swing.

(23:09):
There was a moment where you thought maybe he was
gonna did he get all the did he He didn't get
to he had the big Ryder Cup moment. Then he
won the Open Championship. I bet at one point he
was maybe number one in the Did he ever get
to one? Like maybe when Tiger was going through a
swing change. I know David Devall had a little moment
as a number one, and then he had an epic crash. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Justin Leonard one of only five players to win the
US Amateur, the NCAA Individual Championship, and a major golf tournament.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That was pretty good, Yeah, pretty solid. Let's see he won.
I don't know if he ever won them.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Was number one in the world, but he won, as
you mentioned correctly, nineteen ninety seven, won twelve times on
the PGA Tour. I was a good Ryder Cup player,
as well, yeah, I don't think he was ever number
one in the world though.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Do you think if Okay, so, let's so this rains.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
In the top ten for twenty four weeks and eighty
ninety eight nine nine, that was the best.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, this is what he was wearing, Okay, okay. He
was wearing a Master's quarter zip, a Master's Peter Mallar
quarter zip. And he was wearing not the member one though,
like the one that we can all get, like a
fan one. So he's wearing a members a Master's Peter
Mallar quarter zip. And he's wearing a Wingfoot hat. Okay,

(24:27):
like a golf hat from Wingfoot, if that's what you're
choosing to wear. And by the way he was, I mean,
he was really cool to the kids, like really cool dude.
But like, and you recognize him right away of course,
And I said, yeah, that's just like when I was
at lunch with Stevie Tiger's caddy at spring break and
I'm like, that's Stevie Williams and kid's like, what, like
he's Tiger's caddy for twelve years. Yeah, like, oh yeah,

(24:49):
I guess it is. So anyway, but if you're wearing
that you're choosing to have people have dialogue with you, right,
or do we assume that that's the only clothes he has,
because it's not Inconspecius.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think he probably just only wears golf clothes. It
sounds like based on what you have just said. And
I always think if you're wearing a hat, you're at
least trying to be somewhat like Tonito.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, if you're wearing a half you're a plane golfer
and you're always wearing the hat.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I think if you're wearing like a hat, to me,
if somebody's wearing a hat with sunglasses or a hat
with ear pods in, they don't want to be talked to.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Agreed, any ear pod, sunglasses, forget it.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
He's of the celebrity level though that I think it's
he he's still pumped when somebody.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Like that's kind of what I thought. He was pretty
excited about the boys and he was yeah, I think so, yeah,
And I thought, based on what he's wearing, you're kind
of inviting. You're saying I'm a golfer. Yeah, you're saying
I play golf. Yeah, and then oh, by the way
of one of major.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
The thing that's sad is the guy that you really
would have liked to have been sitting next to on
the plane. But I know from watching his celebration video
that he immediately got on a private plane to go
to Colorado. It was Miguel on Hell. I mean that
guy would be so I had.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
He might actually be the most interesting.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
So many many years ago, many years ago Ken Stewarts, Yeah,
in Akron, the one in Akron, like in like downtown,
like in the mainish.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Area or what.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, they used to have a thing where if you
made a reservation and you were coming from like far
and wide, they would send you had to give this
kid like a hundred bucks yep, and then they would
send a suburban that could seat six or eight pretty comfortably.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yep to your residence. Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
They would pick you up, they would take you to
ken Stewarts and then they would drive you home.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Wow. That's a hell of a benefit. So we used
to do this a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
And back in the day when it before it became
like a Champions Tour event, it was like a World
golf class.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, it was in the FedEx Cup and all of that.
Yeah yeah, world Yeah, world Golf class or World wide.
I don't know, but it was a world whatever one
of those ones were.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
It was a big non ajor, but a big event
on tour mast Firestone usually had one the sheets his
future is so bright.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
It's it's so bright. He's got to wear shades. I mean,
he could absolutely run the outfit at Miramar. There's no
question in those shades. Oh my goodness, he's ready to go. Yes,
it was. The Firestone event was a massive world golf
I think it was World Golf Championship with a w GC. WGC,
that's what I think. I think he said it. Yeah,

(27:32):
it just didn't sound right when we said it out loud,
but yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Was the uh Bridgestone Invitation WGC Bridgetone Invitational. Now it's
a college Company's championship, formerly a senior players championship. Anyway,
they used to all the European guys would go to
ken Stewart's during that time. So if you ate and

(27:56):
kind of the bar area, there's a barrier, there was
the big giant painting of the Giant Bull was in there,
and we would go and after a couple of years
we kind of figured it out, so we would always
go that weekend and like at the table right next
to us would always be Miguel on Hell and Parnovic,
tons of those euro guys, all of them, and they
were having like a great time. Miguel on Hell's ripping,

(28:17):
you know, his stogee and and all that, and and.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
The kid, the kid.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
One of his great regrets is that he didn't go
really engage with Miguel on Hell and you know, go
take a walk, and they thought they would have had
a really good time together.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
But he came over to our table and was like,
I think they would. I think they I think the
kid would thrive. I think he would thrive.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
No doubt in my mind, the kid, and that would
be a great parent in a commercial. I'll tell you
one of great stories from one of those evenings. But
so yeah, we we able to like chat it up
with them every year and they got to like kind
of I'd say, no us, but they like recognize us,
so we would. So I've always been a huge Miguel
On Hell fan because of and he was like the
coolest guy then coolest guy now like he's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
And I just he must have either he comes from
a lot, I mean, like Golfer's make a lot of money, obviously,
but he did. It's not like he won at a
wide range, but he was always big with like the
Ferrari collections and all of that stuff. Like he definitely
splashed it around a lot. He'd splashed the plot a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
So he won twenty one times. He's got forty five
career professional wins, twenty one times on the European Tour,
seven times on the Asian Tour, seventeen times on the
Champions Tour, never won on the PGA now and never
won a major, never won a major major. He's won
multiple senior majors. Yeah, multiple, Yeah, yeah. I don't know

(29:37):
if his early life born early years, born in Malaga
and Southern Spain, it was basically just kind of like
a stud. Finished in top side one hundred on the
top hundred and the Print European Tour Order of Merit
every season since nineteen eighty nine. I think he did
maybe just really good with his money good and I
think he's just cool. I think Brandy is for sure

(29:58):
just want to be with him.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Because he's a stud. By the way, one of the
biggest misses in marketing is when was that dos Ekis
that had the most interesting man in the world, and
they let him walk. Do you remember that when they
tried to recast.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh, yeah, that guy was great. I had once had
dinner with that guy in like the actual actor actor. Yes,
because my agent at the time knew them. Yeah, I
mean that guy was Antana's in La.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
It was me, my agent.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I'd played Willie McGinnis and him.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
How was that for?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
What an odd forsome Yeah, it's a good meal, great meal.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's like a classic kind of school. Yeah, that's very good.
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Speaker 3 (31:42):
When you have a quarterback competition like that, as a
wide as the group, wide receives ever group, what's your
biggest responsibility in terms of making it as.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Easy as possible? How do you make it as easy
as possible? You know for those four quarters? Right?

Speaker 10 (31:57):
So, the one thing that coach Stefanski has done a
great job from an organization standpoint is the amount of
reps that we've been able to maximize by this the
two spots. So, I mean, this is the most reps
that I can remember getting in spring practice, and it's
because we've organized practice to have two spots and just
to really get a lot of reps. So not only
does that have a lot of quarterbacks that are competing

(32:17):
for the job, and it helps the receivers to go
out there and we can have two fields going at
once and maximize reps.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
It's been great.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Ched Deontay Johnson, see have a lot of catching up
to do.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Not Yeah, I mean Deontay. I would say this.

Speaker 10 (32:31):
Anybody new to our system, which Deontay is, has a
long way to go, whether it's a rookie or a
free agent acquisition or somebody that we signed in the offseason.
So I think with all of our new players, there's
always a long way to go. Certainly, he's trying to
get out here and get caught up to speed, learning
our offense, learning how we do things, and learning as teammates.

(32:52):
So training camp, he'll be here and we look forward
to working with him. And you know, the more he
can be out there, the more he has an opportun
to play.

Speaker 11 (33:00):
After what he went through last year, jed as a
coach and how he deal with.

Speaker 10 (33:05):
That, Yeah, I mean, we don't. I don't even have
focus in on the past. I really don't. All I
focus in on is when he's here, working hard with
him to bring out the best in him as a
player and a person. So I don't even reference the past.
We don't even talk about it, nor do I even
think it's part of our daily process.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
So what about Jamari Graft watching him out there?

Speaker 6 (33:27):
It seems like, yeah, catching a lot, that's his way.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Have you seen him in a career.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
Yes, Jamar's had a great offseason and it started with
what he did prior to coming back for us.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
In our formal practices.

Speaker 10 (33:37):
He worked extremely hard on some of the things in
the areas that we asked him to work in, and
I think that set him up for a lot of
success this spring. I have been very pleased with not
only his work ethic, but most importantly, his performance on
the field has been outstanding. And I think that's all
because he's embraced the things that he needs to improve
on moving forward, and I know that he's a player
that we've just been pleased with his production on the field.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
What did you ask him?

Speaker 10 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean, Jamari, you know, obviously, you know when
you go into year two as a player, things that
start slowing down for you. When you're a rookie, things
are happening very fast. You're trying to learn a system,
you're trying to learn your teammates, and you're trying to
play in the NFL for the first time. So when
you go that second lap around the track, as we
tell them, there should be some things that should be
so much better from an assignment standpoint, from just an

(34:22):
overall awareness of what's going on, and you know, he's
done a great job there. And then we ask our
receivers to do three things. Get open, catch the ball,
and compete in the run game. And Jamari really has
shown the ability to catch the ball this spring has
been the most The one thing that really jumps out
at us as a coaching staff is his ability to
really catch the ball and it can tested area and

(34:43):
he's available. I think availability. We talk daily to our
players about being available, how important that is. It's really
the most important part of the process is that you're
out on the grass and Jamari's been out there and
it's been great going into camp being available, yeah, I mean, look,
those guys have made a lot of progress in the spring.

(35:05):
They've missed some days, but they were out here today.
Is really participants in everything we do. We had the
reps according to kind of giving reps to everybody, we
spread them around with those two guys were on the
field today working with us. They worked through every every
period they were available. So my expectations they'll be up
and going in training camp for it.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Do you think not? Jamari specifically.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Did you think in general rookies come into the NFL
and maybe they're not aware of what a big step
it is from.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
College to the PROA.

Speaker 10 (35:35):
Yeah, it's nothing that there's not a manual for it.
There's nothing you can tell them that it prepares them.
They have to go through it themselves and physically, and
I would say there's definitely a transition. And fortunately for Jamari,
he took all the coaching and everything that was provided
to him from a resource standpoint here in our building
last year to really set him up for success going

(35:56):
into the second year.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
I mentioned anyone who comes into your team has a
has a way to go if they're new, how much
how much progress can they make.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Over this six feet break and getting caught out?

Speaker 10 (36:06):
Yeah, I think progress is really based on what they
want to do as far as their motivation and how
much they want to get done. Certainly, there's you know,
just so many hours that we have a lot with
the players that we can spend with them. Obviously we
try to maximize those opportunities, but at the end of
the day, it's what they do when they're away from
here to really you know, put them in position to

(36:27):
catch up and to be in position to compete and
make our team and help us win. So so much
of it has to do with the traits of the
players and their motivation levels. That's why guys that I
think of that are on our current roster, like a
Jamari Thrash, has done so much away from the building
to really maximize his opportunities with us.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
On the field.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
To that point, Deontay said, yes, you guys are being
team that have reached out to him.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
How have you seen that if that all translate into
motivation and urgency anything like that.

Speaker 10 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean when we acquire players, like I tell
the guys that are drafted or undrafted, regardless of where
we are acquire you or you know, winning part of
the year, you're come into our building.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's an opportunity.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
It's no different nobody first round picks, no different than
Deontay being signed in the offseason. And again it's what
that person does with the way they work that will
ultimately really determine how successful they are.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
What are Deontay's strength as a receiver, you.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
Can yeah, I mean Deontay has strengths as a receiver.
Obviously we've all seen that on film. I'm not gonna
like comment on his strengths. I will say what I'm
most excited about is the strength of this group as
a whole, the receiver wise. I'm excited about our rookie class,
about how hard they work and what they've done. And
I'm excited about a lot of players that have worked

(37:43):
hard to be here and really make a difference for
our team.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
There you go, coach O shade from the podium, and
now take a look at the wide receiver room where
this is my number one concern room in the operation,
my friend. But let's take a look at it, the
names that are in it and those who will need
to step up in a big, big way.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, the reality, as we talked about, we're gonna play
a lot more twelve personnel. I do think obviously you've
got You've got Jerry Judy in this room. And Jerry
Judy coming off of the best season of his career.
That was another good wide receiver trade. It certainly appears
from Andrew Berry Judy going to the Pro Bowl last year,
career high in receiving yards, all of it. He's the

(38:27):
clear number one. Now behind him, that's where things get
very interesting. Judy last year ninety twelve, twenty nine, and four.
You've got Cedric Tillman, And I really think you really
only have kind of right now, three guys that you
can sort of count on. And the reality is, I
say sort of because.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Of what I'm about to outline, I think you only
have one. That's why I said three sorts. So you
have one.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
You have Tillman, who last year was in an unbelievable stretch,
goes eight for eighty one, seven for nine, two touchdowns,
six for seventy five in a touchdown, and then three
for forty seven, gets hurt against Pittsburgh and then misses
the last six games with a concussion, which.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Alarming. My gosh, what's going on? Is he ever going
to play?

Speaker 3 (39:13):
That is very alarming. But for that kind of four
game stretch, he looked like he could be a legitimate
number two.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Receiver for you. So he's one option.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
He's got the size six three, two fifteen, he can
run all of that. You saw certainly signs that he
could do that. Then you've got Deontay Johnson, who was
a Pro Bowler. He's a guy who's got a thousand
yard season. He's the guy who played very well with
Kenny Pickett a couple of years ago in Pittsburgh, and
then last year everything was derailed. By the time he
leaves Caroline after seven games, he's their leading receiver. Last

(39:42):
year ends up in Baltimore. Now this story didn't want
to go in when it was cold to one game,
goes to Houston, that does.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
None of it works.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
So he's trying to rejuvenate his crew. But this is
the guy who had at least six hundred and eighty
yards in each of his first five seasons. In the
last four seasons there when he was in Pittsburgh, basically
in five years he averaged eight hunt almost nine hundred
yards a game.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So he was a very productive player.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Yeah, you need him right now. Those to me are
your top three behind that it's nothing. I think it's
a lot of question marks, I really do. I think
it's unfortunately it is a lot of question marks for
the Cleveland Browns in that room because you don't have
anybody else who is a proven NFL receiver at all.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Like it's not just questions, but it's also un I
don't know that there's high ceiling question marks. So the
one guy's kind of the one is it Carter. No,
who do you think now?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Carter's a returner in his in his career in seven years,
you know, he's got thirteen hundred and thirty one yards.
He had the one big year in with the Charge
where he had five hundred and thirty eight yards.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That was the biggest.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Other than that, he's never been over three hundred yards
in any other season. And in the last two years
in Las Vegas and Chicago, he's combined for you know,
one hundred and eleven yards receiving and he's got two
years where he had three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Every the year's zero.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
So no, he's he's here to return the one guy
that maybe could become something or that the Browns certainly
are hoping can become something as Jamari Thrash. So Jamari
Thrash Steve Smith's faorite receiver in the draft last year
rookie season from a number standpoint, nothing, seven targets, three catches,
twenty two yards. He's been getting a lot of run.
He's a guy that they like, you know, Miel, Mike Woods.

(41:22):
We've seen some signs of David Bell. It just has
never materialized the way.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
That the Browns wanted. And at this point.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Now you know he's coming off of injury. It just
has never been there.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
In fact, his catches, yards, all of it have gone
down every year from his rookie year at twenty four
for two fourteen, then fourteen four, one six seven. Last
year one game, three catches, twenty seven yards.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
This room.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
When you go back and say, man, I hope we
find the quarterback, that's because you you have a lot
of needs going in the next year's draft. I mean
I think you have a massive need at probably three positions,
and now Ronnie Hickman may chain one of those, but
Caleb Downs to me feels like if he's there, you
want him. But left tackle and receiver alone, massive massive needs,

(42:08):
massive needs. And you could have another need a cornerback. Yeah,
you could have a need at quarterback. We hope that
you do. Not you could have a need at the edge.
Opposite Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean you and Ab said this at the combine
the transition phase. I think I think mister Haslam said
it as well, that kind of into transition roster wise,
this is what we're talking about. So you need all
of those picks that you hit on, and but you
just couldn't address everything in one draft. No, So yeah,
I mean you look at this when you look at
this room. To me, I look at it and I go, Okay.

(42:41):
Jerry Judy is the most known commodity you got, yep,
and he was really good last year, but that season
was was his best, So you need him to stack
that and then it's questions beyond that. There's a lot
of questions.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
And that's why when we were talking, I do think
there's gonna be a lot of two receiver sets. And
also why I do think on some level that Harold
Fannin is going to be one of those guys that
plays that big slot. Like I think we're keeping five
receivers this year.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I really do.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Now, you have a bunch of guys Mike Woods, Caden Davis,
Gage Lavardi and Luke Florida, Jalen gil Keishawn Johnson throwing
me the ball, Cad McDonald. You have a lot of
guys that you know, undrafted free agent types that are
trying to make a name for themselves.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Now we did draft Michael Woods. He hasn't been able
to stay healthy.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Showed some flashes a little bit last year, got good size,
but it just hasn't happened yet. And that's not saying
that it can't happen, but it hasn't happened yet on
the level that you need.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
So I think we end up keeping five receivers.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I think it's gonna be Tillman, Judy Johnson thrashing Carter
and then Harold Fannin is really gonna be kind of
like a tight end slash wide receiver for you.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You're almost viewing you're almost viewing Fannin and the third
of the three backs, whether that's Jerome Forward or wherever
it looks. They're just weapons like they're just weapons that
you hope you can get in space and make plays,
is what they are. Because you weren't able to plug
all the one in one draft. No.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
And I do really think though that if we're running
the offense that we want to run, we actually have
enough here to run that. But are an injury to
Jerry Judy right now. And if if Deontay Johnson is
back to be in you know, the Deontay Johnson, then
I do think you have an opportunity to kind of
if Judy misses some time, you could be somewhat okay

(44:24):
out there. But it's real thin, and there are, in
my opinion, there are plenty of free agent wide receivers
out there that could still be very helpful.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, and I just keep coming. I just think they're
going to add somebody by the time you get in there.
I just think you need another NFL guy who can
plug and play a little. I mean, and there's nobody
at the high end left, but there's some good players left. Look,
I know it didn't work out for him in Buffalo,
but i'd bring him back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I bring back Amari Cooper right now.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
He like catching passes from Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yes, and I think he would like offense.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, very very well. Yeah, I would do that in
a second. You've got him you're talking about. Feel if
I if you had Mari Cooper on this roster right now,
you'd feel infinitely better.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
You have Amari and Judy, Yeah, and you'd go, Okay,
get those Jonte now now that.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Room feels deep almost. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I also would am on Gabe Davis big and can run.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
We liked him when he left Buffalo the first time.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, he didn't really work out for him in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah. One of the things that would help all of
this is if Cedric Tillman clicks and he has one
on one with Andrew Siciliana, we will play that for you.
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Cleveland Browns Andrew Siciliana going one on one with Browns
wide receivers Cedric Tillman.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
Cedric Tillman, We're back in the building. It's not really football.
You're not playing football, you're not practicing, you're not on
the field. But like, you're back, man, how's it feel.

Speaker 11 (46:30):
It feels good, you know, being able to come back
to the city, being able to see the guys, the coaches,
everybody in the ability.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
We're all excited to be back here.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Personally for you, with the way your season ended, missing
those final six games, is it a little more special
to be back here.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (46:48):
Obviously I miss the rest of last year due to
an injury, so you know, just putting a chip on
my back, and I'm I'm more motivated now than ever.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
I know you want to look forward and not look back,
but grant me that here for a minute. What were
those six weeks like because we kept hearing you had
the concussion against the Steelers. Obviously you're so close, maybe
said's back this week. No, no, no, he's going to be
back next week, and then you never got through the protocol.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 11 (47:13):
It was frustrating because I wanted to be out there
more than ever. You know, I felt like the offense,
the passing, we were doing so good. But you know,
unfortunately it just put it out that way. But I'm
excited to be back.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
I was rude.

Speaker 12 (47:27):
I should have asked, do you feel okay?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Are you good.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
I'm one hundred percent. Okay, everybody, I'm good. I'm ready
to go.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
You're one hundred percent and you one hundred percent ready
to pick up really where you left off? Said when
Jamis took over there full time. Week eight, you had
the two touchdowns against the Ravens, said by the Way,
starring on the Bark Tank podcast there talking about his
touchdown celebrations.

Speaker 12 (47:48):
We need some more of those.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
You you like you you had hit your stride like
the light went on.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
How ready are you to pick that back up?

Speaker 5 (47:59):
I'm ready to turn up even more.

Speaker 11 (48:00):
Honestly, I feel like I was really just getting comfortable
out there, so you know, just try to you know,
last year is done, but you know, obviously just want
to build up upon what I did and looking forward
to this year.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
How do you feel about Joe Flacco coming back?

Speaker 11 (48:13):
And I was I was excited, man, I was like, man,
we got Joe back, so you know, it's good to
have his veteran presence in here. We all know what
Joe can do, and we're all excited.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
Seriously, when you look at your phone that morning, yeah,
your reaction.

Speaker 11 (48:25):
Was, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's get it. No,
everybody was like, oh, you guys again, Joe back, you
guys again, Joe back. So you know, like I said,
me and Joe he was here two years ago, so
kind of have a connection already.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
So I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
And I know we talked a lot about what you
did with Jamis last year mid season when he took over.
If you go back to your rookie year, to your
point when Joe took over officially the LA game down
the stretch, your targets kept going up and up and
up and up.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 11 (48:57):
Like I said, I think me and Joe have a
pretty good connection, and you know we have all this
time to just keep developing that.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
Dorian's not in the building. Got to ask you about that.
How does that feel?

Speaker 11 (49:06):
You know, obviously, you know it sucks just because you know,
I was my best friend. You know, we grew up together.
But you know he has a different opportunity. He's with
the Eagles and I'm here with the Browns, and you
know we're both happy with our teams.

Speaker 12 (49:17):
What is this offense going to feel?

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Like?

Speaker 6 (49:19):
I know, it's day one here or day two, right,
I mean, you just got back in the building. But
does it feel a little bit like twenty twenty three again?

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (49:28):
We know last year, especially in officer side of the ball,
that that wasn't acceptable from the penalties, from just the production. So,
like I said, this putting chip on all our back
to really not put that on film again.

Speaker 12 (49:40):
Tommy Reese, O C.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
What's that going to be?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Like?

Speaker 11 (49:43):
Man, it's gonna be excited. You know, I'm really excited
for him. You know, like I said, we got all
great coaches, we all trust them.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Who do you want it?

Speaker 12 (49:51):
Number two said, let's just talk draft rounds are picking?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Second?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You're laughing?

Speaker 12 (49:56):
Come on, I know you there's somebody you want. Who
do you wanted?

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Tilman?

Speaker 11 (50:02):
I mean I don't really know, you know, I I
don't really know.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
We all know who the top guys are out there.
You know.

Speaker 11 (50:08):
Rather we get help on the office side of the ball,
on the defense side of the ball, or whatever whoever
we get at too. I trust an organization is definitely
gonna help our team out.

Speaker 6 (50:16):
Okay, just just work with me here the idea of
sed Tilman, Jerry Judy, Travis Hunter, what do you think
of that?

Speaker 5 (50:24):
I feel like it's a lot of touchdowns. That's a
lot of touchdowns.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Could you deal with that?

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Can they deal with that?

Speaker 12 (50:31):
Are there enough footballs to go around?

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yeah, there's enough football to go around. There's enough football
to go around.

Speaker 12 (50:35):
Would you also lobby to play corner if he were here?

Speaker 5 (50:40):
But I love to play corner corner? No, No, I
mean he would. I would leave that to him. You
know what I'm saying. I'm not a corner, but uh,
you know, I just play receiver. I catch the ball.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
In all seriousness, how hard would that be?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Wild?

Speaker 11 (50:54):
I would like to see, you know, obviously, he's a
great athlete, a great player.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Uh so I'm rooting for him. We're taping this full
disclosure on Wednesday. So if it isn't Travis Hunter, it
isn't Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
We don't know.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
We're just talking about the possibility. You read the same
things I read. Are you going in there, however, and
pounded the table for your Tennessee guys, whether it's Samson
or Pierce or whomever.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Do you want those guys here?

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Of course?

Speaker 11 (51:16):
You know, I would obviously love to have you know, guys,
I've already played with college for but you know, obviously
that's not you know my decision, but you know, I
believe we're gonna bring in the best guys possible.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
We do want to talk about your off season though
I was scrolling through ig You did some European travel Spain.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
How was that?

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Yeah? I went to Spain.

Speaker 11 (51:32):
I got an opportunity to go to Barcelona with some
friends and it was a really good time. That was
my first time in Europe. Got to see the culture,
got to go to a soccer game, and got to
shop around a little bit. So I had a.

Speaker 12 (51:44):
Great time FC Barcelona.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
What was that like?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
It was great.

Speaker 11 (51:47):
I mean I've never been to a soccer game, so
to go to there for that to be my first experience.
I think it was like four to zero in like
ten minutes, so I didn't even know that happened in soccer.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
But that was really cool to see.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Did you play soccer as a kid?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (52:01):
Yeah, I played for like two three years and I
was like, nah, I'm not doing.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
This, morn a good.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
I was so young.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You were the best?

Speaker 11 (52:10):
Yeah, I was probably most athletic going out there, so
probably I was the best one.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
After we get done here, obviously, there's the OTAs that
the mandatory Minichamp. Do you have anything else planned for
your summer before training camp?

Speaker 11 (52:22):
I don't know, you know, like I said, it's a
big year, uh, not only for me before the team,
so you know, try to get my fun out, you know,
in the spring and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
So now when we get back, we're just rolling. Okay.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
So if you go to a soccer game, it'll be
in Columbus or you know, there's a good one here.
You good Field a couple of days ago sent to him,
Good to see you good. Good to see that you're
feeling well and I can't wait to see you back
out there on the field.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Thank you for having me. All Right, there you go.
Second hour of the program is up next. We will
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very very good list. We'll get to that and the
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Browns quarter century team made up of players since two thousand.
We are picking the offense this week. Our task right
now is to pick the offensive line. As we stand
right now, we have six players on our team. We
have the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Baker Mayfield, you're keeping a running tally. Yeah, I have
not doing a very self spreadsheet.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
If you have that, yeah, I can do it all right.
Derek Anderson Baker Mayfield are on as your quarterbacks. Bake
is your starter. Your running back room is four deep.
It is Nick Chubb starting, it is Jamal Lewis, it
is Peyton Hillis, and it is Kareem Hunt. So that's

(54:27):
where you stand. As we are six out of we
were thinking twenty five to twenty five. Yep. Okay, that's
kind of the way that would go. So that's where
you stand on that offensive line is going to be
I would think of bloodbath, although maybe not. Maybe there's
just some no brainers. I think there are.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I think there are probably nine no brainers. And then
we'll have a little bit of a debate on the tenth.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
So we've got let's see our running backs. We've got
Nick Chubb. Yep, did you go through all these arms? Yeah?
Nick Chubb, Jamal Lewis, Peyton Hillis and Kareem Hunt, Hellas
and Kareem I like that room.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
We don't really have like a truth. We're going to
just beat people up, but we don't have a true
like third down back. But Kareem would that would be Kareem.
You could do some of that.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah. Right, And now we're going on the offensive line.
Offensive line, So let me ask you this before you
get into these names. How many NFL franchises over the
last twenty five years would have a better representation of
offensive lineman who played for them than us?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Not many in terms of you're talking all Pros and
Pro Bowls and all of that.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Not many, Not like any because we have maybe Cowboys
had a good run there, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Hold on, let me be one hundred percent sure we
have a first or a second team All Pro. I'm
pretty sure at every single position. Yes, yeah, on our
starting on our offensive line.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Right, So I don't think anyone else would be able
to pull that off. And then the other reason I
wanted to bring that up is inevitably, as I am
around town, people will come up to me and say, well,
who did we get on the offensive line? And I
will fire back, who cares with all due respect to
the Great Hoff. And the reason for that is we've
had the best offensive lines in football for large parts

(56:12):
less twenty plus years and haven't won. Yeah, because you
need the quarterback. You need the quarterback, man like, these
guys are awesome. One's a first ballot all time All
Game left tackle, the Great Hoff. You got the Hoff.
I mean, this is crazy, this list first.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Ballot, but it's one two time first team All Pro.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Mitchell Schwartz is a.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Mitchell Schwartz is a one time first team All Pro,
three times second team All Pro. I mean, and those
are your three tackles. Yeah, Now, I think we might
add a fourth tackle, but we might not.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Then you've got your guards.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Joel Botonio's an automatic Wyatt, Tellers, and automatic. I like
Johnny Greco absolutely line man, and then you could. So
we'll leave it at three for now, because you got
or you'd have Zeitler would be kind of that third guard.
But because as I'm personal friends with John Greco and
he's a heck of a dude, I like John Greco.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yep, he was on those lines.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Now he and Zeidler, neither of them. Zeitler's a one
time pro bowler, went with Baltimore. Neither have been an
All Pro. But Zeidler was not a pro bowler with
the Browns. So you got those three, and then your centers.
You got Alex MACKX I think a seven time pro bowler,
multiple time All Pro. I think one first and a
bunch of second. Let me say one person a bunch

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of seconds.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Alex mack is.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Three time second team All Pro, seven time pro bowler.
So your starting offensive line is multiple how many first team.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Mac Buttonio Teller, Thomas.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Conklin, probably as a Brown Conklin has a first team
All Pro. Schwartz didn't, but Schwartz and Kansas that he
was a first team and then three second teams of
four years. He after he left the Browns, and every
thought he should have stayed with the Browns. So you
could make either way. And Buttonio's two time first team,
three times second team, teller I think is two times
second team. I mean you're talking about, yeah, two times

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second team.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You can't put a better offensive line. I don't know
in the NFL franchise. There's probably somebody I'm not thinking of,
but like, that's an incredible list to put on there.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, and then you've got You've had tremendous play at
the center position. Now here's where we could maybe debate it.
So Postick has played very well for the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
J C.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Tretdor played very well for the Cleveland Browns. Did Trader
make a Was he a second team All Pro one
year here? No, he missed it.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
He was a Pro bowler though he didn't miss a snap,
I was said, and never a Pro bowler either, really
he And it's weird. He and Postik were always top
five or top three in some cases in like PFPFF. Yeah,
but never got that kind of that kind of recognition.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Well, I would have thought jac made a Pro Bowl,
all right, So I.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Think we've got Thomas Conklin Swartz, but Tonio, Teller and Mac.
Those six are like auto automatics. And then I think
you got Greco, you have Zeitler, you have Possic, and
you have Tretder.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I'd maybe go Tredder.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Do we think, yeah, Tredder, Yeah, Post it's been very
good too, Tretder.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
And then the question is you know the other thing
with you throw in a fourth do you throw in
a fourth tackle?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
JC came in here in thirty minute Game of Thrones
reviews with us. Yes, and then he was the head
of the NFLPA. Yeah. So I mean our time like
Johnny Greco's versatility and he's he's just a lovely human,
so to me, he's in great. So I got the
three tackles locks obviously, Hoff Conklind, Schwartz, three guards, Teller, Botonio, Greco.

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That's to six, and then Treder and Mac is eight.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Maybe we go because Greco can play center as well.
Maybe we go Zeitler.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
I'm not opposed to that.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
And then I want to put on just because I
love him. I want to put on dwant Well. I
think we need a fourth tackle.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
So your your conversations for that, There really aren't any
there aren't many any when he's been right, he's been
awesome in it, absolutely awesome. He's a lovely human. We'll
put him on there. So I have no problem putting
him on there, and he.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Gets to learn behind the greats and listen. The fact
of the matter is the guy has handled TJ. Watt
multiple times, handled Micah Parsons, He's handled Nick Bosa, He's
handled them all all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
So we are at our ten on the offensive line
are J C. Treader, Alex Mackett center. Yep, it gets
us to two. Our four guards or three guards. Four
guards are Greco Zeitler behind Buttonio and Teller starting. That's right.
So those are your four guards, and then your four
tackles are Hoff, Jack Conklin, Mitchell Schwartz, and Dewan Jones.

(01:00:54):
Easily the best position group on the team, and it
goes easily. Dude, it's an all time NFL position group
over the last twenty five years. I really don't think
anybody could could do a better ten offensive lineman. It's
gonna be Philly, Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
The teams that maybe could be in the conversation would
be Philly, Dallas, Baltimore. Yeah, but that I think that
might be the end of the list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah. Yeah, And it speaks to the moral of the
story though, is without the quarterback, it doesn't asn't matter,
it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter how great, how great
they are, because you just the winds don't come. But
that's ten. So that gets us to sixteen sixteen on
offense so far. Yep. And we're gonna have a pretty
solid tight ends decent. Well, we're gonna do that coming

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room is where we are at, my friend, how many
are we think in here? So just to keep you updated,
we are at sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Three tight end, six receivers, and I think it's I
think this one is a very easy could be a
short segment, short segment. There are three that jump off
the page. Obviously, David Ajoku will be on the list.
He's got a Pro Bowl season under his belt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Big play Gear play Gear has got to be on there,
gotta be on the list.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
And big play Gear was not only a wonderful human,
but and just and a just tremendous He had one
of the most productive seasons by a tight end in
Cleveland Brown's history. Gary Barnage caught a ball with his
bum was a pro bowler. I mean, you want to
talk about an unbelievable thing, here's Gary Barnage. In two

(01:03:54):
thousand and eight, came into the league as a fifth
round pick of the Carolina Panthers. Rookie season one target,
no catches, second season twelve catches, two hundred and forty
two yards. Third season, nine targets, zero catches. Fourth season,
did not play broken ankle fifth season, six catches, seventy

(01:04:16):
eight yards and a touchdown, So his first career touchdown
twenty twelve next season, so this is now sixth season
in the league, first with the Browns thirteen catches for
one hundred and twenty seven yards and two scores, twenty fourteen,
thirteen catches one hundred and fifty six yards, no scores,
two thousand and fifteen, seventy nine catches one thousand, forty

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three yards and nine touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
And goes to the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
He had more receiving yards that season than he had
by far combined prior to that, by far. Then he
has fifty five for six to twelve and two and
twenty sixteen, and then he's done playing. That's pretty wild, right,
His first six years in the league produced basically six

(01:05:02):
hundred yards, and his last two years in the league
produced sixteen hundred and fifty two yards and eleven of
his fourteen career touchdowns. But Gary Barnage twenty fifteen, Gary
Barnage gets on the list, and then you're gonna have
I'm pretty sure it's two thousand and fourteen. Cameron Jordan
Cameron's going to be on this list. Twenty thirteen I'm sorry,

(01:05:24):
eighty catches, nine hundred and seventeen yards and seven touchdowns.
He made the Pro Bowl that year. So we got
three tight ends who all made the Pro Bowl. Nadjoku,
Gary Barnage, and Jordan Cameron, who.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Was a heck of an athlete. Jordan Camp concussions and
it ultimately ended his career. Heck of an athlete. Winslow
would have been on this if not for the off
field stuff, which is just an unmitigated disaster and quite
honestly tragic. But he had a couple of years back
to back where he's pretty good here. He had a
two year stretch with us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
He actually had three really productive years in Tampa, which
I completely have forgotten. He went eight eighty four, seven
thirty seven sixty three, three years in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Who would that have been the quarterback for Tampa in
those years? Is that like a Josh Ferguson, Freeman, Freemanaman
Maybe that would be my guess. Josh Freeman. Yeap, Josh Freeman.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
In two thousand and nine they really had thirteen, Josh Freeman.
In twenty ten they go ten and six.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
He only played ten games in eight but in the
two years before that, eighty nine for eight, seventy five,
eighty two for eleven oh six yep, then forty three
and then seventy seven. Then he goes to Tampa seventy seven,
sixty six, seventy five, and then it's done at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah, it's big eared with the Browns obviously, eleven o seven,
eleven o six. Remember he started off looking good and
then tours ACL. I want it sayd wasn't the opening
kickoff of the two thousand and five season in Dallas
he got hurt on the motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Yeah, currently serving a fourteen year prisons sentence. Maybe he
got hurt three year in Dallas. Let me see.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Yeah, he gets hurt his rookie year and a kickoff
in Dallas in the second game. Then he gets hurt
on the motorcycle. That's how he tore his ACL and
misses two thousand and five.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Yeah, it took a while, I mean it was, but
then once he started he was He was good the
next two years. But either way he's out. So chief
big play gear and Jordan's not a bad group, all
Pro bowlers not bad. So we're at nineteen Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
The nice receivers, which the receiver group is not a
bad group.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Well no, I mean, no, you're gonna have you can
have Jarvis, and you're gonna have Josh, and you're gonna
have Josh Cribs, and you're gonna have Odell, and you're
gonna have Amari and you're gonna Yeah. No, I mean
and the wide receiver that's pretty good, Braylon Brayland.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
It's going to be a tough cut then because he
got Gordon Landry, Braylen, Odell, Amar.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
We have to do that, Judy when we don't have
receivers on here, But like, should we just do that
now because the next week you're doing defense? Right? Yeah,
we can do receivers now if you guys want. We
got five minutes of it. I think we can probably
hash it out. I don't think we're gonna miss anybody.
Josh Gordon's an automatic. I think Jarvis is automatic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Okay, Jarvis is automatic. Fine with that. He was the
second person I put down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I think Amari's an automatic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
So Amari is a one time pro bowler with the Browns,
but back to back thousand yard seasons, was the first
Browns receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Okay, and he has a single game record. Yep, So
I think those three are locks. Okay, So.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
I kind of think so Brailan's in for the two
thousand and seven season. It's just and it's unfortunately just
isolated two thousand and seven Brailan Edwards, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I mean, do you think he has to be? Yeah?
Twelve eighty nine and sixteen touchdowns, sixteen touchdowns, second team
All Pro? I do think that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
So I think those four Yeah, so they're in. I
think Chris and Cribbs is not really going to be
a receiver for you, but he's a part of this
team in the sense that he is going to be
your kicking returner, punt returner. He's first team All Pro,
three time Pro Bowler.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Yeah. So yeah, And then who's the last Who's the
sixth receiver? I honestly say, Adell No.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
I think Jerry Judy's one season is better than Odell's
one season Jerry Judy's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Is there anybody we're missing in the early two thousand
Go ahead, I can read you guys the list I have.
Go ahead, Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:09:28):
Kevin Johnson, Dennis Northcutt, Quincy Morgan, Josh Gordon, Jarvis Landry,
Josh Cribbs, Brayln Edwards, Jerry Judy, Amari Cooper, Odell, Greg Little,
Mohammed Massaqua, Andrew Hawkins, Terrell Pryor, Brian Rubisky, Donovan Peoples, Jones,
Travis Benjamin, and Rishard Hollywood Higgins.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
All right, So, Kevin Johnson's best season is eighty four
for one thoy, ninety seven and nine. He is the
guy who had the most catches in since they return
all of that. He had three hundred and fifteen catches
since the return three eight hundred and thirty six yards
in seventy three games.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Judy Judy's best year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
And that's how we're really kind of scraped the butt.
But Judy's ninety twelve, twenty nine and four.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
And is a pro bowler. Yeah, that so that usurps
that I would think so.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
And then Odell's best year with the Browns is really
unfortunately was his first season with the Browns, and it
was seventy four, one thousand and thirty five and four
the best.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It's cherry. I think it's cherry.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah, Kevin Johnson's season was very good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
We'll give him an honorable mention. Well, we can if
you want to go seven here then now do you
sure we want it on defense twenty five? Yeah, we'll see.
We'll leave that as a as a possibility. Be the one.
Cribs is the wild card because you could have you know,
so if you wanted to put Kevin Johnson on here Cribs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Let's see where we get on defense, I think we're
gonna be. We might be better than we think, but
we might not be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Yeah, I mean, here's this is the You want to
know the moral of this story. You have to have
a quarterback. Everything else lines up. Everything else is fine, Yes,
everything else is fine, But you spent twenty five years
looking for the guy. And that's that's why you don't
have the success because everything else holds up with it.
That running back room you could put up against anybody.

(01:11:27):
That offensive line room, I think it might be the best.
The wide receiver room is more than fine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
And you're running out there peak Josh Gordon. On one side,
Josh Peak, Josh Gordon's the top five receiver in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
The league period. Yeah, No, I mean it's it's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Josh Gordon with Landry and the slot. And on the
other side you get have the year where Brayln was. Yeah,
I mean Braylin was very highly regarded coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, yeah, nos, yeah, you know the quarterback. That's that's
how you get in these spots. We'll open up that
mail bag and we don't ever do this, never do this,
but a call in mailbag question from a very special guest.
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Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
All Right. Final segment. We are off the rest of
the week for Zigura's birthday, so you have that to
look forward to, which is nice since we are last
live show here of the forty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
I was trying to think off the top of my head.
When I was a younger man, I used to like
to wear like a jersey of wet I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Sue that with the boys. Yeah yeah, John Lynch forty seventy,
John Lynch or Kierlinko, right yeah, AK forty seven would
be a cool one. Uh yeah, and John Lynch, those
are the best those would be there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Cream sickle John Lynch flint gotta be yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Iday bringing back they sure they're bringing back the cream
sickles in white, yes, which they should, just like the
broncos ones should be back in the way, they should
be back in white too. Seattle is going to bring
it back a white one too, a white version of
their of the U of the large at ones. So
it's time to open up that mail bag. Certainly is
John Lynch white? Oh yeah? Uh. One of the constants

(01:13:34):
of the mail bags has been the great Hey Bobby,
bobbe And we don't ever do this, I mean we
don't take calls, we don't do it. But he's a
birthday boy. He's a good clean boy and it's a
mail bag. Hey Bobby, Happy birthday, buddy. What do you
have for us?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Thanks?

Speaker 5 (01:13:54):
Boys?

Speaker 8 (01:13:54):
How is it going today?

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Bobby?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
You share a birthday with Iago, You shore a bird
with with Kayla's grandfather Crampa, share a birthday with Ashley, Monica,
Zach Hembry. It's a good list, Bobby, good list and
oh the great Doo Yeah, a legend in Australia.

Speaker 8 (01:14:16):
Come on, I love Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Oh Blue is big, big, Blue Eguy, Yeah, you get ready.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Blue is probably going to be in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah, all right, what do you have, Bobby?

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:14:31):
So for most of my life, my mom's family went
on vacation this week, and uh, it usually went horribly wrong.
There's usually a time where the adults would just all
the childhood trouble would come out, usually man, and then
they went talk for two days, have beverages, and be

(01:14:53):
best friends again. So have you ever had a family
vacation go horribly wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Because I have, but Bobby break job out of you. Yes,
happy happy birthday buddy, as always, and we appreciate your
loyalty and devotion and so if you had a great birthday, buddy,
all right? So yes, yes, on my mom's side, there

(01:15:18):
were what he just described happened a couple of times.
Here's the deal. Family shouldn't probably always hang out that much,
especially once people become fully formed and they get out
from under the yokes. This was a big part of
like a lot of our vacations as kids, was we
would have to do these like week long family things

(01:15:39):
and some of them were blood bass man, they really were.
So I can I can empathize with with what Bobby
is dealing with there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, interestingly enough, Like, I can't think of
really any on my side that have gone that way,
but I've had somewhere others that I was adjacent to too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Family. So so you were an only child? Correct? Did?
And what about.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
So my dad is just my dad's was my cousin Danny.
We never really went smaller. Yeah, that's side was small.
My mom's side was big. But we've always had they've
they're seemingly a pretty fun family.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
They've always been fun. We go up to the lake
with the lion barbers and stuff. It was great. Yeah, yeah,
yeah no.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
But others I've have been just insane meltdowns and brawls.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Ugly, there's no winning in those awkward situations. No, No,
it's hard though too, because you have you know, there's
you know, there's childhood resentment that now, I mean it's
it can go off the rails pretty quick. Oh yeah,
I've seen it happen. All right, what do you have
for sir young brock? Hey? Guys?

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
First from the YouTube stream from the complainer, which of
these gets us more wins? In twenty twenty five Having
the number one offense and number thirty two defense or
having the number thirty two offense and number one defense,
number one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
You went through this. It's not close, absolutely, yeah, it's
not close. Close. It's one of the Yeah, it's it's
really one of the simplest. It's just that simple. You'd
had that entire spreadsheet. We did that right around the
in the playoffs, they had like the data of like
top ten offenses or top five offenses.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yea, your top seven there seven point seven top seven offenses.
You made the playoffs I think eighty six percent of
the time over the last five years, and if you
were a top seven defense it was like sixty percent. Yeah,
it was statistically significant. You need to be an offensive
football team.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Yeah, it's just it's just kind of that simple. There's
there's really no other way around it. So it just
is what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
It's just where the sport is from. James the Ringer.
Would you rather coach your kids' sports and have to
deal with the parents or not coach and be and
not be allowed to cheer loudly for your kids?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Hardest thing about coaching my kids is they can't ever
win an individual award because I won't give it to them.
So and they know that. So like, even if they
are the best player, I don't. I don't give them anything.
Even if they are the best teammate, I don't give
them anything. I just think that makes it tough when
you're coaching other people's kids and you're like, oh, you know,

(01:18:21):
I think that's a tough spot. So I never I
don't do that. So that's the hardest thing. I don't.
Obviously when I'm coaching them, I'm not cheering for them,
but I don't. Even it's funny that people that that
was phrased that way because I don't. They asked me
to do it, and so I do it, and I
enjoy the heck out of it. But it's really being
able to spend more time with them is why I
do it. It's not really the other parts of it,

(01:18:42):
not the actual games. It's really the practice in the
time is what I enjoy the most about it. But
I loved when I got the coach Ardi buckets. Yeah great, Yeah, no,
it's really rewarding. It's awesome. And guess what, there aren't
enough quality coaches. So if you think that, if you
think that you would like to or you'd be good
at it, go to wherever your kids play and say, hey,
I'd like to coach. And my guess is they'll let
you because there aren't enough.

Speaker 7 (01:19:03):
Yeah from the Generics show, other than Z's discovery that
he mentioned earlier in the program, what are your favorite
musical discoveries of the past couple of years?

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Musical discoveries? Oh, that's good. Hold on all right, I'll
tell you one that I don't remember where. It was
pretty obscure. This is a that's funny how this is
the first thing that came to mind. It was pretty
obscure the first time I heard it, heard this musician sing.
But this was I remember being in college. It was

(01:19:36):
before YouTube, I want to say. It was on a
movie and I picked out the audi the voice, and
I just went, God, that is who is that? And
it was actually Amy Winehouse. Oh and then she blew up.
Within a year, she blew up, and then unfortunately she passed,
but she had a stretch there, and that just it

(01:19:56):
was something so distinctive about that voice that the first
time I heard I thought, well that that feels like
a star. That's I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
The two that really came to my mind immediately was
when I was a kid. The first time I heard
Sadness or Cross of Change mm hmm, Enigma, I was like,
this is just so different.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
And I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Yep, I can't say like. And then the other one
that I felt like I was way ahead of the
curve on and this is shout out to miss k
was vance Joy. I really like vance Joy and he
blew up and did has done very very well for himself.
And then there's another one that is kind of like lower.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Key that I I like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Their music LP and she writes a lot of or
they write a lot of the stuff for other stuff
that you have heard, like the songs, but also has
their own albums and stuff and very cool, unique, unique voice.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
You know who who was really good at that in
the in the Country Realm is Taylor Sheridan. He put
Zach Bryan on a stage at a Montana State fair
before he did anything on Yellowstone, like maybe like season
two or three, he had he had an episode where
he had Zach Bryan and Laney Wilson. Yeah, before either

(01:21:22):
one of them popped at all, but he must have
whatever it was like he had a gift for it.
And then they exploded after that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
I think there's like some I'm looking at my like
like liked songs, and obviously Mind Enterprises is certainly one
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
So I'm scrolling and I'm still stuck in there. There
is she's a son called Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
You see, I can find her name real fast. That
is just another kind of like. I just think her
sound is cool and it's kind of like medieval sounding
to me. You want to know the most of Harris Paloma,
and she's got some cool signs that I really dig.
It's a it's different, it's a different style, different sounding,
but she's got some stuff I really really like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
The most excited I've ever been of hearing a song
was in college. There was a and I don't know,
I think I have a feeling that you're gonna know
what this is. I still to this day don't know
the artist that did it, but it was a remember
closing time, semi sonic. No, that's when I think of college.

(01:22:27):
That's a good one. Yeah, do you remember Fish? Of course?
You know Fish, right, Trey, Anastasia and all hell. So
it sounds like them, but it's a version of them,
of somebody liked them singing Gin and Juice do you
remember this song that went around when we were in college,
so much drama the end. I remember, yeah, yeah, And
I remember the first time I heard it being like

(01:22:49):
this is amazing, and that song went nuts, like on
every mixed CD that you could get. I don't know
who covered it, but that's that one went nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Either The Gords or Hayseed Dixie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah. One of the that the Gords is that seems
to ring true. Be careful because it does have that
it's not safe for worth. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
That's it right there. That's it. Yeah, be careful, easy,
easy easy Gords. Yeah. By the way, Bobby is so exciting.
He not only did we have him on in the
Flesh Baby, he's also back to it. Do you prefer
HOODI and the Blowfish or Blues Traveler?

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Well, the hook brings me back, so I'm gonna go
Blues Traveler.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Probably Blues Traveler, but I will say Darius Rucker is
amazing totally like he can cover uh purple rain, like
he's got that type of juice to him. Yes, yo.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
I also really liked for a while that obviously he
was much more mainstream than I realized he was at
the time meat Loaf.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I had never heard of him until Books in the
Rearview Mirror. Yeah, I hadn't heard of him until the
song I Will is It? I Will do anything for love?
Would do that one where he's like, that's the first
time that was on a lip? Yeah, oh yeah, that
was a big popular song. It was on a loop. Yeah,
but that I didn't know of him from like the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
It's fun when you find somebody though whose music kind
of you like, and then like they end up being
like vance Joy is probably the one, and again I
give miss Kay the credit, but that's kind of the
one that like, he really from when we first started
listening to him to where he is now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Is absolutely just blown up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
I like a lot of stuff though my musical taste
is incredibly incredibly eclectic.

Speaker 7 (01:24:45):
Yeah, what else Buddy from music to movies, Jason Bourne
or James Bond.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Bond but classic Bond, good Bond. I think I'm gonna
be this might be hot take. I think Daniel Craig
Bond is the best Bond, but I know that you
get like the Sean Connery Bond. Roger Moore was Roger
Moore was pretty great. It was ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
But he was great, like this guy in the sixties,
but he just seemed like Bond.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
He did because he was our bonds. Did I think
Craig's I think Craig Craig's good. And this is I
don't know if this is a weird comment or not.
It's our last show the week go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
The other guys had a like striking handsomeness to them
that we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Know if we would say that with Moore, but the
rest of us.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Roger Moore was a handsome guy. He looked like, you
look like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
A British aristocracy is what he looked like. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know that he was like Craig.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Is a it's a not say he's out of hands.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
He's a little bit mine looking man. He's a little
more utilitarian in his take at it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah, like Roger Moore bad that he was.
He was British dashing. He wasn't heres Brasen. No, by
the way, Brosen, And have you watched Mobland yet?

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
No, it's in the queue. Oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
To think of what he was like in Thomas Crown Affair,
to the to the gruffness that he has.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Now he's been looking for one of these. He did
a western that he tried to land like a western
series a few years ago. He's tried to find, like, uh,
find these type of things. Timothy Dalton. I think Craig's
on that. Craig's my guy, Craig's your guy. Think he's
my best guy. I think he's the best bond Man.

Speaker 7 (01:26:35):
Go ahead again, last one from X from Richie Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
What three colored ned go ahead?

Speaker 7 (01:26:43):
What three color palette would you want for the new
w NBA Cleveland team.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
M hmm. I would probably just copy. I would just
copy the calves. I would just keep it in that realm.
I would just go wine, golden black. Probably I would
do black white and teal. There you go, because I
love it. I love teal man.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
Or what about as an homage, how about black white
and Carolina blue or.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
White Carolina blue, Carolina throw a little orange in there
so it's like the calves from that time. Yeah, you
can do that, Yeah for all grow quick one from
enough from the Clown for all three of you favorite
local golf courses.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Country, then private Standpoint, Yeah, Boulder from a not Yeah,
he wrote, he wrote, I want I'm a Walden man,
so I'm biased. I want Walden kind of like you know,
Mayfield has Mayfield and then Sandridge. I want Walden to
somehow acquire Boulder and have that be like or like

(01:27:53):
championship championship course.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
That place is. It is the best layout.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
It's a tough play because it's a tough golf course.
It's an incredibly tough golf course. From the tips, it's
as tough as anything in this area. Could host a
major championship no problem, not like maybe a pro one,
but I mean like a time championship and be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
It's just it's such it's so good. But because it's tough, it's.

Speaker 7 (01:28:14):
A long round. Brother, Yeah, I mean it is a
long so you got to buck around.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
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What is that? I even I took.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
My typical three o'clock micturation early.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
So took it early. Streamline right, out of there, Get
out of here. I'm gonna go hit some golf balls.
Here is your Sounds of Mind enterprises. Here is your weekend.
We will will be on. This will be our last
live show until the fourteenth, So we have a series.
Don't I can't. I can't do it? What is going on?

(01:29:22):
Can't I can't do it? So here's what you have
to look forward to. We will do a new players
special show tomorrow Friday, no show for Independence Day and
the girl's birthday of course. Then on Monday will be
a rookies centric show, so we'll do that on Monday.
On Tuesday will be our draft recap returning players a

(01:29:43):
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some of those conversations, some of our coaches conversations from
the off season through mandatory mini camp and so forth.
That will happen on Thursday, and then on the eleventh
best moments from the off season on CBDs. You have
that to look forward to, which is it's nice you
know right, don't see in here? Huh. Victory Fridays.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Were moving on this year though we need ten of
them again. That was the best thing ever. A couple
of years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Such a solid, solid spot man spot All right, hey,
be safe, out safe. Most importantly, be safe. No fireworks
in your hands. Yeah, when you're celebrating these birthday on Friday,
all of those all of those fireworks are for him.
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