Breaking Down the Browns Secondary - Cleveland Browns Daily - 6.25.25

Z and Gibbs take a look at the Browns Cornerback (29:24) and Safeties room (1:21:57) on this "First Friday" episode of CBD. Hear from the Browns coaches at those positions, Brandon Lynch (24:28) and Ephraim Banda (1:13:05).

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good afternoon and welcome the Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
Nathanura and give up. Hi, what's up dude? It's the
first Friday. Can it get to Friday? Please?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It is a This week is not moving quickly speak
for every day is the same in my house. You
wake up in the middle of the night, you give
a bottle, a little crying, a little coopan. Although today
he kind of said like he's kind of like, we're
like hi, and he's like, but I mean obviously, but
it was still pretty exciting. The big moment that there

(01:22):
are a big moment. There will be plenty of big
That was definitely that was a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
It's beautiful out you have you have league tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yes, yes, all right, it's the swag scramble, so you
gotta bring something to give away, and it's a nice
little night. It's also the champion's dinner. Are you a champion? No, my,
my nephew, that's half of my age. Back to back,
running it back back to back, back to back is

(01:50):
the champ. So the dinner better be a little bit
better than it was with our dues. Okay our do
you know?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
He has a budget, so he picks what is on
the menu. What was on the menu last year?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
What was on the menu? You didn't like it? It
could have been a little better, you know. You know,
thinks you gotta have enough food for twenty guys. Okay,
like they're coming ready to eat once we get off
the course. So you kinda you need you need to
stuck your game up a little bit. You gotta have alcohol.
You got like I had to go on an alcohol

(02:27):
run for him, like a little beer run.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
How much was How big is this budget?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I would say it's probably like five Okay, that's what
I thought it had to be, yeah, somewhere in there.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
So though, just just to be fair, we're doing the
math for twenty that's twenty five dollars a person like
that's not oh you.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
That's fine, you got to me.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I think it was very eye opening experience for him
last year. It was fine last year. I'm looking forward
to what happens now that you're a repeat champion.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
If I had twenty five dollars a person, I'm probably
going Mexican tacos, quesadillas, burritos, just a massive spread of
Mexican fine and like a few bottles of tequila and

(03:15):
some beer.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Like you don't even need the liquor, Like, if you
just had the beer, everybody's fine.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
I think you get a lot of bang for your buck. Though,
if you get, like if you get some teamount out there,
a couple thirty dollars bottles tequila, it will go a
long way.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Rick likes that the one guy you're speaking his language.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
So that's what I would do in those in that
in that situation. Yeah, no, no, right, So.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
I think he did a little pasta. I think it
was like a sausage in peppers, which it was good.
It was good. There there wasn't a lot. There wasn't enough,
so like by the time you got to the end,
it was kind of like, alright, I might need to
grab something on the way home.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think you could do like a four hundred dollars
Taco Bell order or a three hundred dollars Taco Bell order, and.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
No one gets really pleased to people, no one gets hurt.
I would love it. Chipotle, like the Chipotli catering.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah. Yeah, what about a bunch of trays of like
Chick fil A nuggets?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Okay, fine, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
People will be fun with that.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Give me a little Polynesian sauce, for sure. Require the
only sauce.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It is the only sauce, the only sauce ive ever had.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
The only sauce that matter.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I got. So let me ask you this. So, all right,
the other day I got chick fil A for Miss
k was having a craving as she wanted chickil A,
So I was like, all right, what's your order? She
wanted a plane chicken sandwich, an iced tea, and fried
So she wanted the plain chicken sand Chicago, That's all
she said. So that's what I got her, and I

(04:40):
got myself. I think I got, like, yo, the big
al let's go got a spicy maybe on two spicies
in one plane. Okay, So I bring it home and
a lot of sandwiches, and she's like, where's the Chick
fil a sauce? Boy, what do you mean? I said,

(05:04):
there was no ask for any sauces. And I eat youandwich,
I eat the nuggets. If I get nuggets, I'll ask
for a Polynesian sauce.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
See, I get the Polynesian sauce. When we're on the
charter floor. Of course I get the wrap. Yeah, sure,
I do a rap.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I eat the sandwiches plain though. So to me, if
you wanted a sauce, you say, hey, can I get
a sauce? Yeah, so there's a I guess there's a
standard sauce.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
But there are like ten different sauce.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, right, but there's a file a sauce. It's a standard, correct,
But I feel like I need to know that that's
the information I need to know.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I feel like it's almost like a yum yum.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
It is. But and it turns out they do ask
do you want a Chick fil a sauce? And I
was like, no, because no one told me a sauce.
But now I know in the future she'll get a sauce.
You have you Go sauce. He's got both you Go
sauce on the plane the plane, so it's it doesn't
need anything, it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
What what kind of sauce do you get Chick fil
a sauce for me for both of them.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So that's like I feel like and that's like it's
the same kind of a it's a similar like a
mao e, it's a So it's not even on my radar.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I was gonna say, number one, how far a drive
is it back to chick Flake, because I know you
had to go back.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh I did not go back. Really, it was two
minutes away, not going we have you know me, you
know me. Do you think I'm a house without condiments?
Like if she wants to put some type of.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
A sauce that's like a Mayo based sauce, there's no
way that's in the house.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
No, you're right, there are yeah, but there's she was.
She was more than fine. But in the future I
will for sure get her. She wasn't like you gotta
go back, no.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Way, Okay, okay, sweet, very sweet? Correct, But you know
I mean, it's it's an emotional time.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It is an emotional time. No, but she she was
good last night. By the way, So my daughter had
her boyfriend easy or fine young.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Man still together?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Oh yeah, like two years. He's great. I mean, I like,
I never thought I would say that when you tell
it like I I thought it would be like bad boys,
you know, like that's happened in my house. Yeah, knocked
on the door exactly. But it's not. It's great. So
she wanted a vodka sauce and chicken cutlets. So I've
never made chicken cutlets for that's not that's not something

(07:13):
that they've been in my repertoire. Yeah, my repertoire. And
she wanted, like, I make a really good vodka sauce
that you know, substitutes low fat Greek yogurt for the cream,
and I don't use like all the butter.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
And it's okay.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean that's and it's very good, but it she's like, Dad,
She's like, I want like the real deal, full throat,
four tablespoons of butter too, like a full pint of
heavy cream, all of it.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
It was amazing. It was amazing. I will say.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It was turned in and the cutlets turned out great.
Miss k was doing a little cutlet station. The dip
in the flour, then the egg and then the bread crumbs,
the seasoned bread crumbs and we had that roll. It
turned out a really good, did it or a little yochi?
It was? It was pretty good. Now I went to
look this morning at the sauce after it's spent a
night in the fridge, and it's like a solid.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Block, which means in your stomach currently it is a
solid block.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I said to her, I said, this is, for sure,
without question, the least healthy meal I've ever cooked myself,
not the least healthy meal I've ever eaten. And I
don't count like prime red people be like if it's
more calories, you know whatever, that's good meat. I'm talking
just like this is like just making a sauce. Yeah,

(08:33):
but it was good, really it It tasted like legit,
Like you'd be like, if this has served you at
an Italian restaurant, you would have been. At the end,
after I made the whole sauce and I had a
little Italian crumbled Italian sausage in there that was my
own little addition like it. And then at the end

(08:55):
I got like the the mootzarel balls that are not
the mini, not the pearls, but like the next one
up from the pearls.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Sure, so there's like twelve.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Of them maybe. So I had my big Dutch oven
and I put those around in a little pattern so
they covered the top. And then I sprinkled a bunch
of graded palm across the top and then put it
in the oven under the broiler on high, and it
like brulaide.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, crust, Oh my god, ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Wow, for sure, the least healthy thing I've ever made.
But it was good.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
So is the boyfriend the same age?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, so it's going to be seniors, so there there's
no junior prom or anything.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
They did prom.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
They did?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
They did prom? Sure, sure, Sure?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
What was the after prom?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
There's after it's like a school after prom where like
you have to go to the school supervised, but it's
I think it goes run so like, oh I have
two or three I did that. Yeah, I'm sure you
were chaperoning.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I did. I ran the the best chaperone ever.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
You ran the hot dog stand?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
No, I ran the money you got grab We have.
We have quite a nice little after prom set up
at Omesteed Falls. Like they start fundraising for after prom
like when they're in first grade, so they have a
bank account, like we had fifty k to spend on
after prom we had some things I bet you did.
We had a money machine, like you walked in and

(10:19):
it was like tens hundreds like whatever you grab? What
do you grab? You got?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
And I was in charge of the money machine. Did
you get to go in? Is that was that your
I tried for the kids At the end, I'm like,
I got to take this back. Boy, could really make
a night of it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Though there's all the money in there still.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Whatever it was uncleaned, I think it went towards they
might have raffled it off. Yeah, like so that's whatever.
And then I directed traffic the one year, so that great. Yeah,
I had to do it twice.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Keep moving now, I bet you were like you know
what you would remind me of? I think as a
traffic cop in my mind, how I picture you operating
like the people at at the airport who were like
super rude on the bottom level.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So funny you say that this was this was an
airport theme, like flying trip getaway. We were the people
like we had the things that the plane. Yeah, oh yeah,
you want to go this way? This way, folks, this way, yeah,
this way, this way? Great? Yeah, yeah, it's great, great,
it was good. But like after my youngest problem and

(11:20):
the after prom, I had arranged with an establishment in
uh In Town. It was three o'clock in the morning
and there was about twenty parents, all of us pretty close,
and I said, hey, you can go home, or we
can go have a little happy hour. And they're like,
there's nothing open.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I said, well, did it rhyme with yip and ghost? No?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
No, And I said, got a little spot. We just
got to park around the back, go in the door.
Lights are off, ladies and gentlemen, I give you. Yeah,
Saturday night fun. And literally twenty parents walked out at
nine am.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, your party was just so people are listening going on.
Your party is for It was for the parents.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, it was the parents. The kids went home, did
whatever they're gonna do. I didn't want to know that
wasn't at my house. That's all I do know. The
parents that had worked and busted there you know what's
for for sure, thirty six hours setting up and because
then you got to tear it all down. Yeah, yeah,
it's four, it's three o'clock in the morning, three thirty.

(12:34):
Let's go have a cocktail.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Absolutely good?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah good, you're gonna have to work after Prom. You're
gonna have to do after prom this year, You're gonna
have to make some sense, like you're gonna have to
make some I would love to. I would love to
the end. Okay, I think it'd be great fun. I'd
it's a blast.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I would be all about it. By the way, our
good friend the Half posted a video that a car
crashed through their cow fence. Last night. We got to
fix We found some evidence about the pop will cause
stay safe out there, o'doyle rules. I still don't understand
what that banana pel has to do with anything. Do
you think they're.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Slipping on the banana peel? Like the car slipped on
the banana peel. It's like it's the o'doyle rules.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I want to know who. I want to What I
want to know is who did this. I've been there,
I know where that is. I recognized as part of
the road. Someone got a little crazy on the on
the curve. Yeah, maybe they did, Yes, indeed.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Got a little uh got a little too fast, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So earlier today we got a chance to talk with somebody.
We'll have an interview for later in the week. But
I brought up to him mind Enterprises. It's Italian Italo disco.
Have you seen these guys? Know you guys, see these guys?
What these got? First of all, look at these guys.

(13:49):
Give me, look at these guys. And then they played disco.
They're they're unbelieving. They might be my new favorite band ever.
I've worried it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, why did I not know this one? I went there.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know if they play in Italy, I don't know.
I don't even know their whole story. But dude, these
guys are everywhere. Look at this this guy's panache. I mean,
have you ever seen anything like that? Can we pull
up a picture of mind Enterprises these two guys for
what maybe one of the next segments. Just google them.
They even sometimes they do covers. I mean, they're unbelievab,

(14:26):
they do dance lessons. They've got it all for you.
Look at these guys. Look at them on the beach,
GiB you tell me this, you wouldn't loved to hang
out with this guy on the right. This guy is,
This guy is all time, all time. So I'm I
don't know. You know how X works now is like
you click on something once and you're into it, and
then now it's just that's all it is. They have

(14:48):
a song, mind enterprises. They're all on Spotify. I got
the whole thing going on my playlist. These guys. Now,
Caylea appreciates that I love them, but I don't think
she full he gets it yet, Like look at this
guy ripping a heater. Look at this ripping a heater
doing disco, having some comparis. He's unblow They got a
song where he just coughs. It's which is hysterical. They're unbelievable. There, Yes,

(15:14):
they're unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
I look.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
They even do dance classes. They teach you how to
do like the fist pumps.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh yeah, they're totally But where are they playing?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I don't know. They just all of a sudden showed
up and I clicked on one thing another. Look at
that this. Look at this guy's dancing. It was like
this punch. Yes, look at the I mean, are you
kidding me? The guy on the right is right now,
he's moved into it. And I've talked a baby doll
about this beatbox. We got everybody, it's gone. He's like
easily for someone that I have never met in person,

(15:50):
he's like a top five. He's a top five human
being in my rankings for somebody that I've never met. Yes, yeah,
is there No, No, they're just.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I checked it. This is just a music.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
They were in a Hamburg.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
The n New Year's E twenty four. Oh they have
merch dude, it's on its way. It's on its way
here and in Chicago for maybe. I got the baby
blue T shirt look at Oh yeah, I'm gonna wear
it in studio as soon as I get it, it
will be worn here. It's gonna be unbelievable. I mean,
it's these they're just I don't know. To me, this

(16:34):
is the soundtrack of the summer. So you're welcome. First
of all, for those of you listening, You're welcome because
now I think I've probably changed your life for the better.
So we have that. So that's one of our hot
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of your Cleveland Browns. In fact, they are so much
more exciting to me than the NBA draft. I couldn't
even It's like who cares Cooper flies going to Dallas?

(16:56):
And then I'm sure, and then is there a lot
of who cares? After that, there may.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Be two or from Rutgers. I guess he's he's kind
of a head case. He didn't work out for teams.
He would cancel interviews with teams. And I heard someone
on ESPN Radio yesterday morning on uh on the morning
show there, and I heard them say it was an

(17:21):
NBA expert. He was like, if I were a GM,
you could draft him, and as long as he doesn't
do everything that he's done since the college basketball season ended,
you'd be like, okay, good. No matter what else happens
or what he does or doesn't do, he's also the

(17:42):
guy that will get you fired. That's what he said.
Why would you take him at number two?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Then, well, then I don't think I would. It's funny
to me, and you have you posed the question in here,
and this is what's funny to me about it is
in reality because there are only five people on the
the court, and you're on the court for the entirety
of the game. You don't play only offense or defense.
And obviously, look a quarterback I think obviously can change

(18:07):
the fortunes of a franchise in the NFL because it's
the most importance. But you're talking about a game with
five people in the court, Like you get Lebron, that
changes your team. But the draft, beyond that, beyond those
transformational guys, it just it doesn't have any buzz. I
don't know, it's there's just no juice to it. The

(18:27):
lottery has more juice than the actual draft.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I would actually, I would agree with that, I.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Think, especially when there's one of those guys in the draft.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
We were talking about it, like, I think it has
a lot to do with there are so many foreign
players that you just don't know they are.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm looking at there's a kid from Baylor going number
three to Philadelphia, Okay, DJ Edgecombe, Okay, sure, and someone's
going to be listening to and go, you've got I
don't know anything about basketball, not about this. I don't
Cannipple from Duke Yeap love him. He is not the

(19:09):
if he's the fourth best player in college basketball. Wolf,
I'm a Dukie. You are, And I'm like I know
about that. I don't. And all these guys, I mean,
you're taking a guy that the Duke big. I mean,

(19:31):
he he's going seven to to the Pelicans, like he
is a project. Yeah, I'm just like what Carter Bryant
from Arizona gos to Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
There you go, there we go bear down.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I just I don't know how you make it. And
it used to be one of those shout out to
the great Dave Dnatally, I hope you're well. But we
used to make it a big deal like NBA Draft,
like in the in the nineties, early two thousand, we
get together, well, Buffalo wild Wings, go watch the draft.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
It refused to have a lot more juice to it did.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Now I'm like, okay, and now it's a two night
you're gonna put the second round on night two. Yep,
the Calves don't pick till tomorrow. Now the Calve is
going to make a trade. Maybe I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's just there's not there's not a lot that makes
me go, oh yeah, I gotta I gotta see this.
So that's I don't they.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Used to fashion. There used to be good fashion at it.
These were crazy suits. Oh you get the hats, have
all the low That part of it was fun, but
that's it. That's it. Yeah, I don't know, they're not there.
I don't think there is a ton of juice for it.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
No, I don't even know how you get it to
the point where it even competes with the NFL yft
like the NFL Draft Night one and Night two. Yeah,
bigger than the NBA Draft Night one. It's is what
it is.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh yeah, it's not even it's not even close. I
would imagine the ratings are not even in the same
ballpark whatsoever. Yeah, not at all. In Brown's related news,
uh kah, it just looks like the dome is Uh.
Everything is looking good the right. Last night it got
up for the funding, got it's consent now to the

(21:21):
governor for his final approval.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I think everything got approved.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, everything that they're gonna House and State Senate to day.
That's right. They came together. So yeah, last night they
came together and they approved the budget, which is going
to use the one point seven billion of the four
point eight billion in unclaimed funds for the of the
state and see if it looks like that should go forward.

(21:47):
And what's interesting is last night there was also a
provision added, so they proposed final budget. It's got the stadium,
and there was also something added about the Odell Law
to change it so that it does not apply to
teams staying in the same county, so that is obviously

(22:08):
that's these are just signs that this is this is all,
this is happening.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Happening as well as well it should happen. And yeah,
so that's where that's where everything stands on that, which
I think is a pretty exciting, uh thing if you're
a Cleveland Browns fan, or really just if you're a
resident of this region, because you're going to have an opportunity.
There's gonna be an influx of jobs and money to
this region when a and an investment of over over

(22:35):
two billion dollars in private investment, over two billion dollars
from the HASLMS two billion. That is not insignificant at all.
So exciting time and good news. And I think I'm
pretty sure Dwine.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
He has to like so yeah, it's got to be
done and ratified and good to go by good to
go midnight on July first.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, and then that's where that's where that will be,
all right. Coming up on today's show, we are going
to go into the cornerback room. We got a little
more of a guessing game for.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Me as good little games. Put me a little game
day to day, put me to work. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
So that is where we're gonna be. Next, we're gonna
take a look at Browns cornerback room, which I think
is one of the better rooms on this team and
certainly on the Cleveland Browns defense. So we're gonna take
a look at that. We're gonna hear from cornerback coach
Brandon Lynch as well. That's all when we come back
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Speaker 5 (24:31):
He's old, said, yessually he thought last year was his
best year. Would you agree with that that assessment of
where he was a year ago?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Absolutely? You know, and we talk about good, better, best.
Never let it rest to your good as your better
and your better as your best, and that's something that
it was a good year, but it wasn't our best year,
you know. And he's been working like really really hard,
especially with the new practice, like how we're going out
with competing like he's displaying toughness. You know, this is
a young guy that really stood like the whole time

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that we've been in ca AM and you're seeing his
impression on the team right now.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Brandon last year in a four total interceptions of the team.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
And uh Schwartz talked about get the term those PBUs
and the I int Yes, sir, how do you do
that on the practice field? Yeah? Y, you know what
like keep and body in our defensive mindset, like we
we wanna attack first, right, like we we're the tip
of the spear. We wanna make sure that we're forcing errors,
but we're forcing errors because we're communicating and we're executed.
And then when we talk about like the heart and toughness,

(25:28):
like with us fighting through friction, like just displaying that
that toughness through and then finishing for the team, right,
Like everything that we do is for the team. And
those guys really work to serve and when they're keeping
the focus on that, it's gonna produce.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
So does doing the drugs gun do any.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Help at all?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Ah? Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (25:46):
And and and these guys like since they've been in
you know, those guys that hold each other accountable to it.
You know, they have a routine where they catch about
fifty a day as a segment. So with you know,
on average eight ten, eight to ten guys being here
the whole time, like throughout the day, they're catching fifty
a day.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
M Is that different?

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I'm sorry? Y? Is is that is that different from
previous years with you? Y? Y?

Speaker 6 (26:09):
You know, more consistency, MO, more consistency with standard. You know,
those guys that really bought into holding each other accountable.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
She was also talked about.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Like improving third down percentage. Yeah, and as a defense,
but for your unit specifically, like what's your fair role in.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
That way and how can you guys like work on that?

Speaker 4 (26:26):
I guess nay, yeah, you know.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
The first thing is to leverage our engine, right, like
we wanna make sure. We always talk about Russian coverage,
working together, so us stand tight, getting tight, stand tight,
and then like being a tip of the spear for
our nerve center, so being somebody that our linebackers are
safeties they can really rely on when we communicate.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
You mentioned a lot about what you were toughness.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
What are you specifically looking for like out on the
field or is it something in the building.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
To where you're like this guy hasset ah, excellent.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
It starts with toughness, Like period, It starts with toughness.
You know, we want tough, competitive guys that really like
know how to play smart. You know, we talk about
like a lot of hard and toughness within our group.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
So it has to start there.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
But to you, like, what is type? Is there something
in particular you see out on the field and.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
You're like this, guess yes, yes, ma'am, Like hungry dogs
run faster.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
So when you talk about like championship effort and when
we talk about toughness, like three things that we really
wanna be known for physical violence, great effort, and swagging passion.
So when we're seeing guys display that, that's it.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
I know. I mean, your party didn't have the most
production that he wanted last year. So how have you
seen his mind shet real or mindset mans ships enters
this off season program looking ahead to a stronger twenty.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Twenty five or three other Yeah, consistency, you know that
Like that, that's a young, a very resilient player. He's
a very resilient player that he holds his self accountable
and his teammates hold him accountable. So for him to
be here every single day, you know, leveraging. You know
Larry in the weight room, our nutrition department. You know,
he's a come early, stay late guy.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
You know.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
So the little bit of details that we talk about,
like he's really embodied him and he's another player when
we say good, better, best, right, like yeah, he was good,
he's getting better now he's en route there putting his
best stuff on tape.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
No Greg as well, like just kind of this coming year.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
What are your expulations for We're just good through the
way that.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
He's maybe stepping.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Even more selling to the relationship.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yes, continue to lead, you know, continue to lead by
example specifically.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
You know, he's a young guy that he puts it
on tape.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
He always brings swag and passion, right and then like
he's a guy that the younger guys and older guys
as peers, they look up to him for leadership. So
making sure that he continues in that lane to be consistent.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Give me I think you bring swag and passion.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Try to try to. I have a meeting on Friday
about this, about what the new studio. Man, I know,
I don't know. I'm a little concerned because no one
has given me any heads up. I don't know what
I'm supposed to prepare. I'm like, look, I need the

(29:05):
on off buttons, and we've got to figure out how
to do video video, like have Joe Thomas on the
screen talking to us live like I need that. Yeah,
Like we need to get twenty five? Can we please go?
Can we please do it? Stop with this Mickey Mouse stuff? Yeah,
here we go.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
We're gonna get a gun, all right, taking a look
at the Browns cornerback room. You know how it is, right,
we got our top three, Denzel Ward, MJ Emerson. Denzel
Ward the pro bowler MJ now wearing number one, looking
for a big bounce back year. Here, Greg Newsom, the
former first rounder in his fifth season with the Browns.
Then you've got Cam Mitchell, and then you've got a

(29:45):
lot of options behind that. They drafted Miles Harden, who
they like a lot Chickos and Newsium they brought onto
the roster last year he was on the fifty three.
They sign him off if I want to say Washington's
prank squad, they like him a lot. Tony Brown is
the best special teams player in the group, so you
feel good about that. And he's just a tremendous guy. Yes,

(30:06):
elite hair right now. And then Nick Needham will take
him out of he's more working with coach Bonda right
now in the safety room. And he's a veteran who's
been around the league and knows how to play the game.
So I think you've got I think four locks are Ward, Emerson,
Newsom and Cam Mitchell, and then I think you've got
Tony Brown, Miles Hart in Anusium and then if somebody

(30:28):
were to surprise you, Dom Jones, Anthony Kendall, Lamari and James.
But I think you have those three guys going for
probably two spots would be my guest.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I feel like you have to have at least six corners.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, it's a long season. Yeah, you got and then
those guys also have to play a role on special teams.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Now, you could get away with five corners and five safeties.
You could if you're looking at that. If let's say
need him is like your fifth and he can play
corner as well, so he kind of counts as like
both sides of it, that would be that would be interesting.
But I think, you know, that's kind of the battle

(31:08):
as I see it is, you know, Brown, who's the
best special teams guy, and then the young guys in Newsium.
Then you drafted hard In a year ago who looked
very good before he got injured kind of at the
end of the preseason. Yeah, I think you're looking at
you know, you're looking at for sure five maybe six
in that room. All Right, you got you got some
questions for you, all right.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Stock up, step up? Who stock is up? Who needs
to step up in this room.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Uh, the stock up, I'd say is has got to
be Denzel Ward, who played a fantastic season last year.
He said it was his best season he's been to
the Pro Bowl, led the league in passes defense, and
I think the thing that really jumps out that you're
you know, he played sixteen games last year. That's the
most he's played in a season in his NFL career.

(31:58):
You that you love, So I think Denzel's stock is
up as an elite, elite corner. Step up is going
to be is mj and Greg. These are two guys
who were m J Emerson two years ago, was you
thought on the verge of stardom and being a perennial
Pro bowler. Now he's entering his fourth season, he's playing
for a new contract. I know, I know the Browns

(32:20):
certainly would like to see that. You know, two years
ago he had fourteen passes defense and four picks his
rookie year. He had fifteen passes defense last year just
kind of a little bit of a down year, you know,
five passes defense, no picks. Still played, his butt off, tackled,
was involved all of that. But you want to see
him recapture you know what he had. And then for Greg, yeah,

(32:43):
playing for a contract and a guy that's been you know,
I think, pretty consistent. But you know, go back to
twenty twenty three. In that year, two picks, career high,
fourteen passes defense the career high, and then last year
those numbers felt one pick and just five passes defense.
So we need ball skills, we need playmaking, we need
turnovers from this cornerback room. And so to me, it's

(33:04):
those two guys that we want to see kind of
capture their best form and if they do, we should
be very difficult to throw on if you get the
time to throw.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
So my next question you just answered MJ. Newsome. What
you know, is this season more important for either, It's
important for both.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
It's super important for both, super important for both for
their ability to make the kind of money that they want.
You know, I think you know Greg's inside outside versatility.
You know, MJ's an outside guy. I just thought MJ
was on And I love I love them. I love
both those guys. Both those guys have been great whenever
we've talked with them and just getting to know them
and watch them kind of grow up. But m j

(33:44):
Emerson I thought was on the cusp of being a
special player. He was great in that priest in the
in the joint practice against Justin Jefferson, and you're like, okay,
Justin Jefferson, E said, m ja Emerson's going to be,
you know, one of the top corners in the league.
And then it just didn't happen, and he as the
season went on, lost his confidence a little bit, got
it back at the end of the year. But we're
hoping that, you know, he can build on that because
if he can, yeah, I think he is a he's

(34:07):
a stud. I think he's a superstar. So certainly would
like to see that.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
X factor in this room.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I think it's gonna be Tony Brown, just because I
love that guy and I think he's going to be,
you know, such a special teams player. And I also
think he's a guy that, you know, when if you
need him to play some corner, he could. But I
think just more from a special team's aspect, that's what
makes him an X factor to me.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think I think the X factor you've got to
see something from either Cam Mitchell or Miles Hard Yeah,
you really have. I mean, but hopefully Denzel. Hopefully Denzel
gets hurt once a year, Yeah, hopefully and misses a
couple of games.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Only one last year. That's what we're looking for.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
But what but and that's yeah, you're gonna you're gonna
see everybody's gonna get dinged up. It's it's an eighteen
week season. Yeah, So you've got to have guys behind them. Yeah,
So who are those guys going to be? That's the
that's the big question. Yes. Uh. The player we aren't
talking about now, but we'll be talking about at the
end of the season in this room is blank.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
So I think it's gonna have to be one of
these three, which is cam Mitchell Anusium or Miles Harden.
I don't know which one it will be yet, but
I think it's got to be one of those three
because if MJ and Greg play the way that you
know they certainly are capable of playing, and we hope
they play, they both can't be back. True, we just

(35:33):
won't be able to afford both of them and Denzel.
You can't be paying three, you know, premium quarterback cornerback salary.
So you know, the succession planning has to come from Mitchell,
Anusium or hard, and especially if it's Greg you know,
Cam on the inside, Miles on the inside as well,
and then you got a newsium on the outside. That's
really where it's gonna That's it's got to come from

(35:55):
one of those guys. The one of those guys gets
an opportunity this year and they see it and you say,
you know what, we can go into next season with
one of these guys starting.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
That's what you need. All right. Time for a little
fun with Pro Football Focus highlighting the best at every
position heading into the twenty twenty five season, the top
thirty two corners. These cornerback rankings primarily influenced by PFF
Advanced Coverage Grade, which takes into account a player standard

(36:25):
PFF coverage grade primarily influenced by plays where the defender
was targeted, ability to prevent separation, difficulty of assignment, and
PFF grade on plays when not targeted. That's a lot.
Adjustments were made for some players based on their health
and snap counts across multiple years. Can you give me

(36:47):
the top ten in no particular order? Can you can
you guess the ten?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
All right? PS two number two sas Gardner number one
on the PFF list Okay. Denzel Ward.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
By the way, Sauce Gardner would not a contract extension
yet either.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
How many years has he even playing?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Just three?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Right or two?

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I think it's three. I think it's time for an extension.
He could be you can make the first round.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
We Bow and I were talking about this. It's no
longer a five year deal first round picks. If you're
highly successful, you want to be paid after year three.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Yeah, so that's coming up for him. Yeah, so so interesting.
He was the first team All Pro's first two years.
He was not last year. Only three current interceptions. I
wouldn't have had that me neither, certainly number one, okay,
it said Denzel Ward.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Denzel Ward is number ten. It's so a little bit
better than Pete Prisk should be better than that. Yeah,
I think you will find that to be the.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Kid from Kansas City McDuffie.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
He's number three. Okay, maybe a little high on that one.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Uh Jalen Ramsey just because he always stays in these things.
He might not be out because it's PFF's rankings.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, he's not in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
All right. Stingley in Houston.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Stingley is number five. Did you say Ramsey. Ramsey is fourteen.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Fourteen okay, Cooper dejen uh not in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Number eleven first.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Miss Okay, well Ramsey, second Christian Gonzales. I mean no,
he's number thirteen, all right, So at least my misses aren't.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Like yeah, no, no, no, you're in the top fifteen.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Marlon Humphrey.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
There you go, number seven for the rat.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Birds, Jay R Alexander, number nine, the newest member of
the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
That happened while you were gone.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I know he hasn't played a lot of games, but
if he does, that's he's pretty good. I'm gonna say that.
I love the dude from Chicago, Jalen Johnson.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
He is on there.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
He is number four, okay, number four, all right? So
I have one two, three, four, five, I'm missing six
and eight.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yes, you have one from an AFC team, one from
an NFC team, one from the NFC North, one from
the AFC East.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
The NFC North, AFC East, AFC East.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
This is the one.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You'll have a beef with that Benford kid.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yep, so maybe he is.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Maybe he's number eight Benford. And then you said NFC.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
North, NFC North for the defending NFC Norris champion Lions.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
It's either that guy that they can see I think
is a safety though their corners are what Carlton Davis
for re Bucks and then Brian some of the b
is the lesson have a bee? Uh No, it's DJ
Reid from Detroit. Oh, he was a Jet. He's a

(40:30):
free agent signing, so he hasn't he hasn't played for
he hasn't played for the Lions.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Well that's why.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, Okay, I would not have gotten Dr Branch. Who's
the kid that kids that's in Detroit, that's like really good.
He's he might be a safety, but he plays in
the slot. Branch, Yeah, he's a stud.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, he's not on this Okay.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Uh what Browns made the top thirty two. I'm guessing
by the way the question was asked that it's more
than Denzel Ward.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
It's just done. So okay, let me let me stop.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
You there now. Now, two years ago, after MJ's rookie season,
or maybe after last year, all three of them were
top thirty two.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, even new Yeah, yeah, I think Newsom might have
been ahead of MJ.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
MJ one year was at the top of the top
two years ago, said the MJ was like elite. He'll
get back there, he will, He'll get back. Yeah, I
have no doubt, no doubt in my mind. All right,
that's a look at the cornerback room for the Browns again,
one of the stronger rooms, certainly from the starting standpoint
and what you get there, and then we're gonna need
one of those guys behind to to step up to

(41:38):
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Speaker 3 (42:43):
She go to the event this past weekend.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
No, she's not a social dog, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I believe I know this already.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
She thinks that she's ten feet tall in bulletproof. Yeah,
and acts like she is the baddest dog in the neighborhood.
And she gets actually gets a little bit of respect
in that regard. But it is it's wild to watch
her and her yet she's not a social dog. She
shouldn't be. She would not do well at an event

(43:11):
like that if you unless you want her to just
like bark at everybody. She's been a little weird with Luca.
Oh really so then my mom's this sweet nan and
we talked about how she did the night nurse the
two nights ago, which was amazing. Love it. I think
as I thought, like, finally we got rid of this guy.

(43:32):
And then she seemed pretty bummed out when he was
back the next day. Like, I think she loves him
and wants to protect him, but I also think she's
like wait a second, I was like, I was, yeah,
I was, Yeah, I was kind of the main event. Yeah,
baby in the house. Not anymore, not so much so.
She'd yesterday I will say Luca has got uh and

(43:54):
I'm not there for much of her at this time,
especially now this happened yesterday and now I'm here again.
But Kayla sat down for lunch, and whenever she sits
down for lunch, basically he like loses his mind. It's
like he can sense that she's about.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
To like relax, relax moment.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
It's like, now I'm waking up and I'm crying. So
she's like gets him as to change diaper and you know,
gets a bottle ready or whatever. She'd just gotten Chipotle,
which was on a table, and Aza Woody jumped on
the table and ate her whole Chipotle bowl, leaving a
few pieces of lettuce and corn.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Oh boy, yeah, that's not great. Has she ever done
that before?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Ah? She makes me. Sometimes we'll come back in and
like if there's a plate there where she's like up
on our like we have in the living room. We
have our couches like like a sectional like in a
you know, an l and then in the middle of
it is this really cool glass table that was actually
in my parents' house when I was growing up. That
the wood beneath it is actually an old grape vine,
and then it's like a glass top to it, so

(44:55):
it's only like like we can sit on the floor
and eat at it, so it's like a it's like
a coffee table. Oh, and she'll hop up there. That's
where she hopped up and got that. The other day,
we were literally burping lucag burping Luca, and I look
over and she had hopped onto the couch and was
trying to eat an egg bite off of Kyle's plate.

(45:18):
And I was like, Asa, I.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Have no tolerance for that. My wife has less tolerance
for that. No, I just don't know. So we were reading.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
We've done like a bunch of reading, Like I guess
you're not supposed to like if you yell at them
when like around a baby or whatever, they're like survival
and sings, kicking and actually makes the behavior worse than
if not if you're but you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
She got thrown in the cage, and for her that's like, yeah, yeah,
she's on timeout.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
She knows, yeah, but she my sister has a dog
like that that this dog will this dog. And it's
not a small dog. Yeah, it is nothing compared to
the big one bendito.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
And this thing will just take your plate right off
the off of the table, food everywhere.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Well, it's on the floor. I can eat it now.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I can't do that. Can't do that. It's I
do think that there are some I give her a
little bit more grace, and I give her a lot
of food. Like I feel like if you were here today,
give a with me and we're having a great time.
Let's even say we were like truly brothers. And then

(46:33):
all of a sudden, this like I don't know forty
foot giant of another species came in and just like
grabbed you and it was like you're living with me now.
I mean, we never got to see each other again.
And they knew you loved beer, so like they give
you some beerd keep you happy, right Like all Asa

(46:54):
likes is she loves us and she loves food. Her
life is built around when she gets to have breakfast, lunch,
then her and second dinner. It's all she wants.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
It was a second dinner.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, we had to trick her with second dinner. Why
but it feels like she's tricked us. Yeah, she gets like, Okay,
first of all, you're gonna laugh. So she gets a
third of a cup for breakfast. Now that doesn't pay
the all pitch, So breakfast she gets she's like twelve pounds. Yeah,
she has a third of a cup for breakfast. She
has a third of a cup. She gets a milk

(47:25):
bone like a gravy bone, which she loves. And then
I found her these like hemp infuse, like they're good
for her joints and stuff, and it actually really helped
her when she like she definitely tore razy l but
she's like healed herself, and the doctor's like to see
if she can heal herself because otherwise you need the surgery.
But I have a whole wing at the West Park

(47:46):
Animal Hospital. Oh man lumps, two lumps, did three one
of them twice. Yeah, So anyway, she's had those interest.
So she loves that. So she like and she eats
like hungry hippo. Like you put that kibble down, dude,
it's gone in one seconds.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
That's oliver once.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
It doesn't even make sense how fast you can eat.
Whereas my older Cali, my first dog in Cleveland, wouldn't
even eat kipples. She's like, no, you need to make
me like and then after a while she's like, on
a ground, beef doesn't even excite me, whereas ace as
a dog, She's like, put food in front of me,
I'm gonna eat it.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
So this is what's happened to my in my world.
I have two dogs. Yeah, Oliver's thirteen, me thirteen. He
does not look thirteen. Yeah, he is spry. He almost
ran down a rabbit the other day. And Roxy is
my she's six, and I think she's on steroids from
the moment she wakes up till she just passes out,

(48:43):
Like that's it. It's NonStop. She's the picky one. He
just heat grazes and he eats everything. This is what
happens when I go on the road in football season.
My wife determines that the food we've been feeding the
dogs is not healthy. We need to make our own
dog dog food. Uh huh what I did last night?

(49:04):
Made dog food? Wow, this is my life. I have
to make rice like two or three days a week.
Oh my god, we have potatoes that go in. I'm like,
what are we I'm like, what is the cost of
the regular dog food that we were buying, which is
not it was like sensitive skin and stomach by the way,
because oliver that breaks out.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
We have like some racial nutritch stuff exactly. That bad
lasts like six months.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Ye see, we probably have to buy one a month
because they get a bowl in the morning and they
get a dollar a day. Yeah, I'm like, what is
what I'm currently doing? Like we have to go to
a butcher to get this special like dog, I'm telling you,
it is my summer.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I get it. Listen, you cannot do this stuff when
I go on the road. You're very nice around, so
I got it. So you do that. My buddy the
cook like drives his dog to like playdates at this
place like three times a week, groomer once a week.
I'm like what I was like, you know what, My
dog Asa Woody gets to go to the potty every

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now and then, which is the party. That's what we
say to her when like we have a family, Yeah,
like you want to go to the potty And then
she hops in the car and she just sits in
the front seat for like until we leave, Like she's
like go to the party, like I'm in boom. But
that's it. She can't drive around to like go to
dog amusement parks and whatnot. But she does get food
and she gets prime rib, she gets she gets all
the good stuff. But she lives. She lives for food.

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So I just think, like, you know, we take there
are taken from their species, like they're living with us.
We if they like food, we give food.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Your dog leads a very good life, great life. My dogs,
My dogs have an unbelievably good life.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Oh my, yeah. Now the funny thing is now she
like she again she's small, so she can sleep in
the bed. She sleeps like for the bed. Now we
have this blanket that was it's actually I think it's
like an ug blanket, believe or not. I don't know
what they make blankets. It's very cozy. And now she
like kind of like swaddles herself like the baby in
the blanket and sleeps in there.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Roxy has to be covered up every night. I wake
up in the middle of the night, I got a recover,
or she attempts to get into bed with us. Now
she's sixty pounds. There ain't no room for that. No, no,
you know, Oliver is a solid eighty he's a beef.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
She's a wheeze. Those are big dogs.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
They are big dogs.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Those are big dogs. Yes, well, I guess we'll go
around the sports world when we come back. We're around
the canine world. This is what we do. Welcome to
the off season. Well those are your tweeting going? Where's
the Browns talk? We may get quarterback room breakdown.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
I'm just saying, and we got safety being up an
hour two?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
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Speaker 2 (52:16):
Welcome Back. Hour number two of Cleveland Browns Daily, brought
to you by Battlely Bets. And now we are going
to go around the sports world.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Get did you see that Oklahoma? Do you see Oklahoma
City's championship parade?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Was there really nobody there?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
I don't I don't know. Trotter, if you're listening and
can dispute this, they said there were like ten thousand people.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
It looked like there was nobody there.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, Trotter, you won a championship, Get the family on
the plane and go to Oklahoma City.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
If amazed, Trotter has told some of the guys here
that some of the camera angles were not right. And
I have seen some video where it looked packed. It
was just well organized with barricades and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Okay, I mean we were well organized. Nothing happened. We
had a million one point three to be exact.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah, people say that there weren't. Yeah, it doesn't. It
doesn't not appear to be super packed. But according to
the mayor, hundreds of thousands descended on downtown. How many
do you say were there were a million? There was
over a million for the calves.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
One point three to be exact, per sources. So I
don't know. I just I don't know how many people
live in that area. So I wouldn't you know? Could
they could tell me?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Seven hundred and twelve thousand people who live in Oklahoma
City may have been more people in that Today on
the streets of downtown for two uninterrupted mild thunder, fans
were stacked deep on both sides. This is from the mayor.
Other people say not the case at all, and you
have pictures where there was literally no crowd at all.
Closest comparison they think for the OKC parade is the

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twenty twenty one parade for the Bucks that attracted around
five hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
That's coming out of COVID too, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
But Milwaukee has about one hundred and fifty thousand fewer
people than Oklahoma City.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Me.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Listen, it wasn't It wasn't our parade. They won the championship.
Yeah they didn't.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
I don't know why anybody else would have been working
that day. Same prit go to the parade. Everybody in
this town did. Everybody in this town partied for four
straight days. Was very confident.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
It was a good time.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
It was what else you got today?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Five time Pro bowler C. J. Moseley announced his retirement
from the NFL. He was out of Alabama, played for
both the Ravens and the Jets.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Was never the same after he left Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't know about that, Gibeah. Hold on, Let's go
to the number the first time.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Five time Pro bowler to be fair. Only one Pro
Bowl after Baltimore, but twenty one, twenty two to twenty three.
He got hurt last year, but his last three full
seasons he was a Pro Bowler in twenty two, second
team All Pro in twenty one, he had a career
high one hundred and sixty eight tackles. Who was that
for Jets? Then in twenty two he had a one

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hundred and fifty eight tackles, which the second most of
his career was a pro bowler. In the year after
that he had one hundred and fifty two tackles. His
best year. He was more around the line of scrimmage.
I think in Baltimore. He was a pro bowler in fourteen,
second in the defensive Rookie of the Year voting Pro
bowler in sixteen, seventeen and eighteen, went to the Jets,
didn't play it during COVID, opted out, got hurt in nineteen,
and then came back and had a really good three

(55:42):
year run there. Five time Pro bowler. He was a
former first round pick of the Ravens seventeenth overall in
twenty fourteen, the same draft as Joel Beatonio.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Interesting all right, so maybe a little better with the
Jets than I remember the Ravens. He was a thorn
in R side.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, I remember in twenty eighteen, which would have been
his last game as a Raven, he picked off Baker
when we were trying to drive down the field, and
I think we could have knocked them out of the
playoffs if we won that game and he got that interception.
He got that interception late. The Jags first round draft
pick number two overall, Travis Hunter signed his rookie deal
worth forty six point sixty five million, fully guaranteed. His

(56:22):
thirty point five to seven million signing bonus paid entirely upfront,
makes him the first non quarterback not drafted first overall
to receive his entire bonus upfront. It's also because the
Jags and Shod Connor a incredibly liquid that they can
do that. And that's the beef with what's going on
with the kid down in Cincinnati, something about how his
bonus is going to be paid out. The Tampa Bay
Buccaneers announced still where their Cream Sickle uniforms on Thursday

(56:44):
Night Football Week fifteen against the Falcons. I love those uniforms.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Now, what are the Falcons where to combat?

Speaker 2 (56:50):
That is where the Jeff Georges.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Those are beautiful people together, beautiful The Jeff Georges.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Top five like individual uniforms off the top of my head,
would be no particular order. The Cream Sickles, the Powder
Blue Chargers, yep. I mean, I think the powder blue

(57:24):
oilers are on are phenomenal. And then I like, like
straight up just the silver and black Raiders.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
But the old school Dolphins ones.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I like the red and gold Niners, old school Dolphins,
I like from an old school one. I like the
old school Dolphins. I love the old school Broncos. Love
the whites. I don't want to love it, I know,
but the whites with the blue helmet and the white
with the letter shadow box on the numbers. Obviously, I
love ours. We're very classic traditional. I do like our

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white on the shadow box, white on white with the white,
I like that look. And then yeah, the Jeff Georges
are unbelievable. For the Falcons.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
I'm trying to think what else.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I love the old Vikings where it was like that
deep purple helmet, like the deep, deep deep purple.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
The old school Eagles.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Eagles are great, the Kelly Green Eagles, yep. The Sea,
the Seahawks. I to the Seahawks, have to go.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
The Seahawks stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Just the I like the ones that they wore when
we played. There.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Your old school forty nine ers stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Oh the nine. I think there's the classic Niners. Just
the classic red red over gold with the helmet, and
I think the classic Raiders is hard to beat as well.
I do love like his old for a one off, though,
I think the Creamsickle might be the best like one off.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I also like the old what's his name? Pat the Patriot? Yeah,
like the red with the red Uni with the white helmet. Yeah,
that's pretty great, pretty good ones as well. Season two
of Quarterback debuts July eighth on Netflix. Kirk Cousins, Joe Burrow,
and Jared Off. I can't wait for that, you know,

(59:01):
I love Jared Goff. I think it'll be fascinating to
watch Burrows stud and then Kirk Cousins go through. I
think a pretty tough It'll be interesting to see how
he handled that.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah, what the access ended up really being?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
And where you know, does it open the door with
the glimpses to what the future?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I was gonna say, right, where's he again? I don't
think clearly he's still there. They're paying him one way
or the other. They may as well make sure that
he's the great insurance policy. That's what I think, So
we'll see. I can't wait for that, though. I think
golf will be fascinating. He's such a good dude. Burrows
such a stud. Although he's not a great throw of

(59:39):
a baseball. He struggled a little bit of fanatics fast happens,
that does happen? Fanatics fast? It's boy, that event in
two years, wasn't that the one with Chris Rose? Didn't
they bring back like the best damn sports show? Wasn't
that like the reunion last.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Year for him? Yeah? It was like he did a
preseason game with us because it was in August. Yeah,
and he like he came in like that morning. I
believe he did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
He had been at Fanatics Fest the night before. Yeah,
he did the best damn Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah, all right, speaking to quarterbacks, might as well do
this because we were going to do it this segment anyway.
So our good friend Nick Shook ranking each division by
quarterback heading into the twenty twenty five season. Okay, quarterback
the most high profile position in sports. So in a
world in which we lean on rankings to make sense

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of things, few positions attract more debate than this. Those
seeking clarity on the matter and luck with each week
the NFL season, it is my job to analyze every
snap of every game with a focus on the signal callers.
After each week's games are complete, I rank every quarterback.
What if we were to group them by division in
an effort to determine which four team collective packs the

(01:00:54):
greatest passing punch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
So that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
He's done. Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Has he ranked them in each of vision two?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I've added a fund Yes, I've added a fun wrinkle
that taps into the final QB Index from the twenty
twenty four season, in which I ranked every QB to
start a game last year, to add a bit more
order to a process that might otherwise be reputation dependent.
The divisions are listed below according to how each team
is expected starting quarterback ranked as of the end of

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the twenty twenty four playoffs, presented in countdown fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
All right, so what are you ask me to rank
within each division? I think it's the divisions the division
in some in total.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Yes, in cases where there are two qbs who seem
equally likely to start for one team, I calculated their
average ranking to create one score.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
All right, let's do let's go by division. Does he
also rank them in each division? Now, it's just by
the division's total.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
So his rankings are from last year at the end
of like when the season ended, so when twenty four
to twenty five ended, he had his final rankings.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
All right, So the AFC West is going to have Mahomes,
Herbert Nicks and Gino. The AFC North is going to
have Lamar.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Burrough Rogers. And then he took the average of Picket
and Flacco and I will.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Say Picket okay, Picket, Flacco okay. The AFC South is
going to have Stroud yep, Lawrence yep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
He put cam Ward ward and then he comboed Anthony
Richardson Daniel.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Jones, well called Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Okay. Richardson says he's going to be fine by the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Way West, North, South, and then the AFC East is
going to be Josh Allen, It's going to be justin Fields,
It's gonna be Tua, and it's going to be may
You got it all right. NFC West is party Stafford,
Donald and Kyler.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
The North is going to be love Golf McCarthy. No,
that makes that one interesting. And then Caleb Williams, there
you go. The South Scot Baker. It's got Bryce Young,
it's got Pennix, and then for New Orleans Tyler.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
And then the NFC East is going to have Dak
Hurts Daniels. And then who did he go for the Giants? Russ?

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
He did?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
He went Russ straight Russ. Okay, all right, Number eight Okay,
you can give me a little music hev if you want,
we'll do music.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
I heard most of this hour. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Number eight is going to be the NFC South.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
So this is the average QBI ranking at number eight
he has done?

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Is that wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
What did you guess?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
NFC South, You're incorrect. AFC South.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
AFC South is number eight, number seven ranked Stroud fifteen,
Richardson thirty five, Daniel Jones thirty seven, Trevor Lawrence twenty six,
Cammore twenty nine. Lawrence is better than that. Okay, yes,
then I say, NFC South.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
You are correct. Michael Pennix, junior number thirty, Bryce Young
sixteen sixteen, Tyler Schuck twenty nine, Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Six he has Wait a second, Wait a second, I
don't know what they Chuck is ahead of he's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Got cam Ward. Uh yeah, yeah, he has Pennix thirty.
They must it must be an average.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Just the rookies just must be twenty nine or something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah, okay, all right, he had Baker six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
By the way, Now it gets a little. Now it
gets tough. Now it gets tough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
All right, how.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
About this, I'm gonna can I just like I'm gonna
jump around and then see if I can nail it
in that way?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I think Number one is the AFC West.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Am I supposed to respond?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Or?

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
No? Yeah, you're correct?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Okay, so that's number one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, he has his QB numbers bo Nick's twenty, Mahomes seven,
Gino twelve, Herbert eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
All right. Number two I think is the NFC East. Incorrect,
Number two the AFC North. No, no, all right, so

(01:06:20):
now I'm confused. It's how's it not the NFC East.
That doesn't make any sense to me? Are they is
that third?

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Yes, the NFC East is number.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Three because of Russ, But I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Prescott nineteen, Russ twenty three, Hurts nine, Jane Daniels.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Five nine, five nineteen and twenty three, and there's gonna
be a better one than that that doesn't have lamar v.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I ranking is fourteen between those four.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I mean, he can't do it. He cannot NFC West second.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
NFC West average Q ranking. That's thirteen. That's wrong, Kyler seventeen,
Stafford eight, party fourteen, Donald thirteen. He's got Donald ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Donald had a great year, lest Yer because it's based
on it's based on last year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
But this, he says, this division carries the most potential
for volatility entering twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
All right, so that's two. That's three. Now I'm gonna
say that AFC North is four wrong, NFC North is four. No,
the NFC East is four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Who am I missing? No, NFC North.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
You did? One was the AFC West, Yeah, Two was
the NFC.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
West yeap Three is the NFC East, yes, And four
is not the AFC North No, NFC North.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
So then it has to be the AFC East. You
said noted that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
No, you didn't say it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
How is that possible on the strength of Josh Allen?
How could you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
You did not say not say AFC.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
East play tape.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
You did not say Jordan East. I would have told
you if you did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
No, I did, because it was the only ones that
were left. It was only three.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I said.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Then it has to be the AFC East, and you're like, no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
No, you said AFC North.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
We'll play tap.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
That's great. AFC East is number four.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Josh Allen two, k eighteen, Fields twenty seven, Drake May
twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
How is that better than the NFC North? Lamar and
Burrow both have to be top five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
It's a question for Shook. I'm just a message.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Okay, what is Lamar?

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Where's the AFC North? Yeah, number five?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Lamar is number one, okay one, Burrow is number three, Okay,
Aaron Rodgers number twenty two. Okay, our guys picking a
Rodgers are forty seven and forty That throws the number off.
That's okay, all right, So then you have the and
then the NFC North is six because of McCarthy's probably

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dragging it down.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Yeah, McCarthy's twenty nine. He's considered a rookie. Caleb Williams,
by the way, is twenty eight in his ranking golf four.
Jordan Love ten.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Give me the NFC AFC East again. Allen's two.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Yep. Allen is two, Tua is eighteen, Fields is twenty seven,
and Drake May is twenty one. It's an average of seventeen.
The AFC North average ranking is seventeen point three eight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
That's just silliness because it's because of flac Owen Picket.
I mean, your top three people in the AFC North
total twenty five. Your top three, your top three people
in the East total forty one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Like, come on, keV, do you have the tape here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
You did?

Speaker 9 (01:10:07):
You did not say a FC East in your initial
thing here it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Is nor is four? Wrong, NFC North is four. No,
the NFC East is four. I said, I meant a
f C yep, correct, you're correct. So I knew I
made some come you're correct, given my.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Bad once in the west once in a while, So.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I said NFC East had a shock which you knew
was three. That's why you said the NFC East that's three.
I get it makes sense now. No, I was saying
a FCS because it's just Josh Allen. I mean, TUOA
is not even in the top half based on these numbers.
I think that's wild. I think that our division Rogers
is also well. I guess it's appropriate. The interesting one
is clearly one. I think one is clear. The one

(01:10:51):
I think the NFC East, and I mean this time
should be second. I would rank it. I would rank
it a f C West, NFC East, AFC North, because
your top two are so good. Then the NFC West,

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then the NFC North.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Like I am a Dak Prescott. I don't want to
say hater. Yeah, but I am not impressed. But he's
not nineteen. No, the man led the end. Didn't he
lead the league in passing a couple of years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Yeah, then I would go East, AFC would be so
mine would go a f C West, NFC East, AFC North,
NFC West, NFC North, AFC East, and then the South.
So you can do what however you want.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
I saw this come over my timeline yesterday. I was like, shook,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
I mean it's I'm not gonna lie. It's a little bit.
It's a little surprising to me, to be honest with you,
the way that it the way that some of that
plays out, that is definitely a little bit a little
surprising me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
All right, when we come back, we're gonna dive into
the Browns safety room. We're gonna hear from coach Bonda
and break down that room for you as we get
ready here for the start of training camp and under
a month, get ready under a month. Buck up, So
I knew I said something about the ease. I said,
NFC like an idiot. Correct, makes sense. All right, We'll

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Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
How big a year is this for Roun in terms
of his growth and development?

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Huge? He knows it. It's a big, big point year
three in the system, A great opportunity to take advantage
of a situation that he's worked hard to earn. You know,
he's done an excellent job in terms of preparing taking
advantage of situations like you're one in to make the team.

(01:13:36):
Now it's time to go out there and execute to
the level that we believe he can and that he
knows he can.

Speaker 9 (01:13:43):
Seemed like Grant was getting a lot more comfortable forwards
the end of last year, especially playing to the box.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Did you see that, Yeah, I mean, I think Grant
is really starting to touch you know, the true greatness
that he can be. You see it. I know that
we had whatever we had in terms of the season,
but he had a phenomenal year. I mean, reached the
hundred tackle mark again, played really really good football at

(01:14:08):
the at the second level. So he's definitely he's got
himself to a good spot. Now where can I help
him grow in other areas? We're focusing more on the
third level for him right now, so he can be
a true complete safety in all those areas, take advantage
of opportunities at the third level and help us, you know,
create more place. So definitely saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
It feels like your.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Room was pretty consistent for the last two years. Right
now you got a couple of significant changes. So yeah,
what's that like for you? And what do you see a.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Couple of I'm earning my money now at first two years, Well,
first year earned my money, the second year was a
lot of consistency, and now the third year is almost
like year one again without a o g Rodney McLeod.
So it's from scratch. I'm basically attacking it in in

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in a p coaching it like no one knows what
they're doing, even a guy like Grant or Rocket and
building it from the top up, because we do have
almost like three different rooms. We got like Grant, Chris
and Rocket who've been here, then we got this vet
group of ra of of Ray, Sean, Kaz and Nick,
and then we have a rookie. So it's it's just

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this really diverse room right now. So for me, it's
been fun to just remind myself to go back to
day one and teach from the ground up. Watch. I
think it's also gonna benefit the guys that have been
in the room, but definitely earning my money. Coach Schwartz
walked by one time early in the process of the spring.
He goes, yeah, it ain't gonna be easy like it

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was the last few years. So he reminded me pretty quickly,
even with.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Those veterans that you guys brought in, like how.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Has their outside perspective though benefited you and kind of
helping them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
The haryst getting adrusted it's been good because I think
anytime you bring in new people to UH to an organization,
doesn't matter what you're doing, they have different perspectives, different
way of doing things. They ask different questions, which is
always good because those questions are something maybe we didn't
talk about before or work through. So it's nice to
have those things, especially when we have as many as

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we have now so they're all coming from different places.
But as a coach, it also reminds you to not
assume that they know it or when they say yeah,
it's like this, you got to be careful and say, well,
is it exactly like we do it or is it
the way you kinda did it? So it's been really
healthy for us for the room.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Is Nick sort of a guy who can bounce between
corner and in safety.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
You know, he's played corner and nickel obviously in his career,
but right now we are completely focused on playing safety,
so I know, like you know, there was some just
maybe questions on what he is that guy is playing
safety for us. I liked his skill set in the
sense that he can do both things. That's always good.
You know, Og was a past corner. Guys who have

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corner flex always do transition or can transition. The biggest
thing is the growth that has to happen from corner
to nickel, and the things that you have to do
with safety does change. And he's in that process right now.
He's done a good job of working at it, and
I hope that that can transition, you know, into the season.
He seems like, Hey, I don't know. I couldn't answer that,

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to be honest with you, but I'm glad he's here.
He's obviously a success in Atlanta. You know, he had
success in Pittsburgh. He's a guy that we kind of
saw in the process that can make plays. He can
provide position flex, he's a veteran. He goes and finds
the ball, which obviously we got to be better at
in terms of getting the ball. So he's a guy
that can do all those things. I'm glad he's here.

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He's worked really hard since he's got here. We did
have a kind of an The room wasn't really complete
till halfway through the spring, so it's been a little
bit of a different process for him in terms of
learning it picking up. But he's done a good job.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
He talked about last week we talked last week about it.
How heavy safety you guys kids scheme is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Do you think that's going to remain the same given
the transition.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Into I think so, you know, I know how big
that package is for us. My whole career. I've been
a very three quarter safety type, you know, scheme deal
for me, So I understand the benefits and how that
helps a play caller. I think it allows him to
do a lot of different things, but at the same
time keep the core of who he is and what
we do schematically intact. I think that'll continue, but we

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need to find the pieces they can do it. I mean,
the last two years we had it, we're still in
the process of figuring out who those people will be
and how we can operate to make that happen for
us as a team.

Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
We're start to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
So with that kind of a mantality and said, like
going int season, how beneficial is that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
That that's where they're to be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
That like nerves stuporting.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Look, bottom line is they have to be like the
safety room has to fix problems. You know, tarb over there,
you know right next to me. That's our job. Our
job is to be the mainframe. Our job is to
be able to take information, process it fast, and fix
the things that need to be fixed or operate. This
is the league, that's how it works. So it's absolutely
benefit or necessary for those guys to be the nerve

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center for us to be able to handle those things.
But if you are going to say you're that, then
you need to be able. You need to be capable
of fixing those things having those tools. We're gonna make
this the last one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
How rigid are you in terms of in the box
versus free you need in terms of where you see guys,
because it seems like Grant fits more in the box
like you. I mean, how much is that kind.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Of to answer your question? How rigid am I?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I'm not Now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
I know certain safety coaches can be and in the
league could be very strong safety free sery oriented, but
I don't necessarily for my past believe that that that's
always what's best because especially in the league with them,
you only have a couple of guys active and guys
go down. They need to be able to play both.
You need flex the way that offenses are changing in
terms of fsl and motions and all that other stuff,

(01:20:13):
So you need guys who can do both. So to
answer your question, yeah, it is important to have the
body types in certain spots, but the league and the
way offenses are built now, they're gonna put you in
wherever they want you, so you need guys to be
able to be able to do both.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
That's Brown safety coach Friim Banda Bonda. I'm sorry talking
about his room, which is going to have a real
different look this year. Rodney McLeod retired, the Anthony Bell
is gone, so that's gonna be those were you know,
safeties three and four a year ago, Thorn Hills.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Thorn Hill is gone. So three of your top four
safeties are top five certainly from a year ago, are gone.
So we're gonna take a look at what that safety
room is going to look like. And the Browns have
added in some veterans there. It could be five safeties
at the end of the day, when it's all said
and done, we'll give you a look at what that
looks like for you when we come back here on
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take a look at the safety room right here. Who
is back, Well, Grant Delp but obviously he's back. He
is the man that's going to be your starting strong safety.
And I think right now as you look at it,
also back and probably you're starting free safety. And a
guy who's a restricted free agent at the end of
this year is going to be Ronnie Hickman. Now the Browns,

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in addition to those guys, they have Chris Edmonds, who
has had a tremendous offseason. Coach Bonda cannot stop talking
about him. And then they brought in three veterans who
have played a lot of football here in the National
Football League. The first is demonte Kyz. He was a
former fifth round pick of the Falcons back in twenty seventeen.
He's got seventeen career interceptions. He can play free safety

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or strong safety, but more of a free safety. They
also brought in and Kz just for in case you're wondering.
One hundred and seven games, sixty three career starts, seventeen picks.
He was most recently with the Steelers and then Rayshawn Jenkins,
who the brown signed former fourth round pick of the
Charge also in twenty seventeen. He's played in one hundred

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and twenty two games, eighty nine starts. He's got ten
picks in his career. He's got a couple hundred tackle
seasons under his belt as well. He is more of
a backup strong safety, could be that big nickel, all
of those things. Then you've got Edmunds, who I was
talking about, who was an undrafted freegent last year at
Arizona State. The coach Bonda is thrilled on he is able.

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That kid can fly, he can move at his size
sixty two, two hundred and twenty pounds, and he's running
real quick. His mobile numbers are, his movement numbers are
off the chart, so they're very excited about him. Donovan
McMillan is a guy that he recruited, Coach Bonda recruited.
And then there's Nick Needham, and I think Nick Needham
is an interesting one to keep an eye on. Former

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undrafted free agent out of Texas l Passo. He's played
in sixty three games, twenty seven starts. He's got six
picks in his career. He can play corner and safety.
Working as a safety, could be somebody could be a
big nickel for the Cleveland Browns as you look at
it that way. Now doesn't have a pick since twenty
twenty one. He had two in each of his first
three seasons in the league. But a veteran guy competing

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for a spot here. But it's an interesting room gibe.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
It is it is, and that leads us to the
question factor fiction. Next to wide receiver, this is the
position group of the most questions going into training camp.
That's not named quarterback, I should say, because we know
that's the biggest one dramatic pause, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
I think there are four position groups that have kind
of what I would call bigger questions around them all, right,
quarterback obviously, wide receivers you mentioned like who's wide receiver? Three?
What does that room ultimately look like? Is there enough
talent in that room? Ultimately? Linebacker without Joka, I think
is somewhat of a question mark. I mean, you drafted carson'squestioners,

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you know, thirty third overall? Is he ready to roll
right away? But I think you have some questions there.
I think you brought in some yeah you did. You
got a Baker, You've brought back Devin Bush. I just
be more questions in how it's all gonna shake out,
and then in safety, I think it's you know what
is that? Because here's the thing about the linebacker room.
So let's say you keep five. Okay, you've got Hicks,

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you've got Carson Sweessinger their locks. Then you've got Devin Bush,
you've got your own Baker, you've got my mood Diabatte,
you've got Winston Reed, you've got Bookie Watson who you drafted. Like,
there's gonna be tough decisions in that room, especially, and
if j Oka was there, even even tougher. So I
think that's what I mean, why that room's like a
little unsubtleed what does it actually look like? And then safety, Yeah,

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we don't know who's our third safety when we play
that big dime. You know who is that? Right now?
I think your starters are gonna be delp It and
there it's gonna be Hickman. And then we'll see you know,
Jenkins and Kz I think are really gonna compete for
that role. And then Edmunds is a dark horse.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
I there's a lot there. I mean, I think we're
all excited to see what Edmunds can do once the
pads come on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Well yeah, just because when you hear coaches gush about
a guy like that, then it's like a gush. Can
you can he do it when it matters? And I
think that's gonna be the question for him because he's
if he's to make this team, he's pushing a veteran
off of this roster. Correct, let's see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Uh PFF Safety rankings the top thirty two ahead of
the upcoming season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Edmonds though, is the name to watch. I think when
you come out for training camp in this offseason and preseason,
how does he do? Can he have like a big
rise up?

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
The good news is we have won in the top
thirty two. The bad news is we don't have two
deulp It's not in the top thirty two, but Ronnie
Hickman is at number twenty four. Excuse me. Durability has
been a concern for Hickman, who's played only seven hundred
and eighty five snaps over the first two seasons of
his career. However, when he's on the field, his ability

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warrants his inclusion on this list. Hickman's seventy seven point
two PFF overall Great in twenty twenty four ranked thirteenth
among safeties, similar to his eighty one point seven PFF
run defense Great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
I like Ronnie Hickman a lot love Ronnie Hickman.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
One of the top thirty two safeties going to PFF.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Grant elpot is one of the top thirty two safeties
in the national FOOTBA. That is, and that is to
me not even not even a question. Last year Acreer
high one hundred and eleven tackles, seven tackles for a loss,
had a pass defense. Now, obviously, his best year is
back in twenty two. He had the four picks ten
passes defense, one hundred and five tackles and hopefully he can.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Get back to that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
I mean, I think healthy everybody on kind of the
back of that defense other than Denzel had kind of
a down year in some of their numbers. For Grant,
this is obviously, I think he's a study. He's definitely
a top thirty two safety.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
I like that room top five PFF safety is going
into the season. Kyle Hamilton number one with the rat Birds,
Xavier McKinney number two with the Packers, Jesse Bates with
the Falcons, Antoine Winfield, junior from Tampa Bay number four, Brian, Brian.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
That's what I was saying. Number five, Yeah, that's I'm
thinking of a.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Corner football lion.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Yeah, that makes sense. And the Bengals just let Jesse
Bates walk.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
They've made a lot of stupid decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
It's just it's it's pretty wild, honestly, is what it is.
They just let him, They let him walk out there.
But if this team can be competitive early games, keep
more neutral game scripts, allow the pass rush to disrupt,
I really do think we have a chance to have
kind of a big year, not only defensively, but for
this back end in terms of taking the football away
doing all those things that you know, we want them

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to do. I think that that is certainly it's within
the wrong possibility for this to be a big, big,
big comeback season.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
For this group. And they've got two great leaders leading
him in Bonda and Brandon. Oh yeah, love's good. Yes,
So all right, one more saying with buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
All right, there it is on a first Friday. Actor cordingly,
act accordingly, Yes, good luck at the golfling. Now you said,
so who's won it two years in a row? My nephew,
Your nephew.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
And this is like all the older guys are like,
what the heck?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Well, do we need Yip Strickler to investigate him? You know,
are you familiar with Yip Strickler. Yip Strickler is a
guy on X that is hilarious and he investigates what
if there could be sandbaggers out there? So if you
win an event two years in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
I will tell you my nephew is definitely not the
sand bag.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
He's going to go to the He's going to go
to the gain.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
My nephew goes shows up every week ready to like
shoot the lowest possible round, and he will go to
great lengths to shoot the lowest possible round. If that
means he shoots sixty five. Because he's just pulling whatever
out of his bag to get a good score, so
be it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
But what does his handicap?

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
I I he's he's gotta be around. He just started
playing golf like four years ago. I got him hooked
on it. He's a single digit. He's like a nine,
maybe an eight?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Is he on the gin? Could find him? Can he
look him up?

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
He's a legit all right? Yeah then yep. Strictler. By
the way, he's a very funny guy to follow though,
because he like goes to member gas.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
I got it now finds people that I know you're listening.
I know the seven that you threw up on a
par four a couple of weeks ago on the ninth
hole when you'd already won your match for the week.
I know you're sandbagging.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Oh, that could make that's that's the kind of content
that Yip really likes. He really dives into that kind
of content there. That's right, Yeah, that'll be good stuff.
All right. We'll be back tomorrow. Oh here, as we
get ready to wrap up the week, I'll be actually
be at Huntington Bankfield for a little bit tomorrow for uh.
That will be a lovely event.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
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