GM Andrew Berry on the Browns First Round Trade - Cleveland Browns Daily - 6.6.25

On this Friday episode of CBD, Browns GM Andrew Berry talks behind the scenes of the round one draft day trade with Jacksonville (26:01). The guys do Higher or Lower (52:25), answer your questions in today's Mailbag (1:05:35), and hear from Browns OL Joel Bitonio (1:18:33).

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts,
Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
All right, let's you live on a Friday edition of
the program. I am merely Bo Gibbe.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
There he is.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Ladies and gentlemen in studio in the flesh, Babe.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Telling you, I don't know where our host is today, but.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, I hope he's playing golf.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I mean, he shouldn't be. I'm going to be really
angry if he.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hey, he should this day he's free. No, if it's
they'd be like last week saying like, where's Gibbe. Well
he's entire Uscany. Well he can't be in Tuscany.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
We're here. Look, you're gonna be on paternity leave well
starting Monday. Yeah, you could have come in today, I
think and given us a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm going to give him the grace he is. He
is our age. He is our age. He's inmar to
embark on a newborn. So not it like not it
that's what he's doing, buddy. So I I think he
needs he needs the silence, so I should give him
a pass. I think pass. Yeah, this instance, I'll say
pass that he deserves a little bit of ground. So

(01:36):
hopefully he gets I know, he had a lot of
work to do, so hopefully he gets to play. But
it was kind of misty on the way over here.
And then we're dealing with the We got all this
Canadian wildfire smog that's out there, which is real.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
So this is now starting to potentially impact my my
little trip Fourth of July week because we're going to Canada.
We're going up into Niagara Falls. You are, Yeah, We're
going up to Niagara on the Lake with the fam. Okay,
I got a little house up there. Yeah yeah, because
guess who doesn't celebrate Fourth of July Canadians, they don't.
You can get an airbnb really really cheap, whatever you want,

(02:09):
really good, nice little place.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
No.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
And now I'm like, well, if it's just going to
be smoke all day, or it.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Should, I will tell you that scrowing up where I did,
like we fire season was something you dealt with. It
was something that when I was a kid, it was
every once in a while you'd get it. My brother
now is pretty adamant that basically every year is fire year.
It's just the way that it is. And this is
way earlier then you typically should be getting this. And

(02:37):
these fires are from British Columbia, which look on the map, kids,
it's a long ways and that's where the smoke's from.
So that's that's the thing that's a little bit odd
is that this time of year and this is the
second didn't we have it last year too?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
We did.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Maybe we had a two years in a row where
you're getting their smoke, But that's the way the wind blows,
so that's the way that that's the way that it happens.
Ota Practice number six wrap up outside one week from today.
I can't believe we're here. The off season program will conclude.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
I know, I feel like it has been a much
shorter period here or time is just I.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Think you're just on vacation. Well, I think because there's
there's been times where these weeks feel like months.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
We haven't had as much availability though either we haven't
we normally it's been once a week in the month
of May, yeah, we or or in a couple of
weeks before the draft and availability. You know, the team
didn't even come back till the week of the draft.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
No, And I think I think the other thing about
about these OTAs that have been particularly interesting is that
what is the fact that we have a four headed
quarterback competition and so you're viewing these I don't remember
ever what was happening at OTAs being chronicled and watched
the way that it is this year. I just don't.
I don't recall that in my time here now and

(03:56):
that I wasn't here when Baker was drafted, so I don't.
I got here in August of that year, so I
was there for his rookie year, but I wasn't here
like that spring, yeah, when he showed up here for
like rookie mini camp and mandatory mini camps and all that.
So I can't speak on that. You were here, obviously
you would know. But like since I've been here, I

(04:16):
have not seen an OTA session like this where it
is so closely monitored, and it's deservedly so the folk
it's monitored for a reason. We have four quarterbacks, So
that's that all is very real, But it's unlike any
other OTA we've had where the demand and the attendance
from the media and all of that stuff is really
pretty extreme.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, it's I'm trying to think of the last time
we had a quarterback, because a quarterback competition like this.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We haven't. I mean, you have maybe with two guys,
like when's the last two timer, like open because it
was said that like it was gonna be tired maybe
when Manzell was here, But was that open? So that
was him and Hoyer.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, and then him and McCown the following year.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, So coming out of Johnny's rookie year, he wasn't
like he's the starter.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I don't think so. I think they were like, we're
going to bring in McCown to kind of mentor him
because Hoyer didn't want a mentor anything, right, right, right right,
And I don't blame yeah, no, no, no, no, I mean
you were six and three at one point, yeah, before
before you didn't win another game the rest of the year.
Uh no, seven and four sorry, seven and four, yeah,
and then you lost five in a row.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So it's been a while it. Oh, I know that
the Kaiser year, the Windless year. Yeah, that then you
had because in that that fall, we had. I remember
doing a show we had Osweiler, Kaiser, Kessler.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, baby Carrots, Clipboard, Jesus and Kaiser.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
They were all in the mix.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Wolf yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah. So this is the first time since that that
we've had and this one the stakes are far higher.
You've got two it's such a unique room. Two rookies. Pickett,
who's you know, in year four but about the same age,
a little older than Dylan, not much young guy. Can
you resuscitate a career with an offense that takes care
of its quarterback? And then you have Flacco, who's.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Just super Bowl champ, this ultimate pro?

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, and he's just the ultimate pro. He had a
he's he's just so impressive and everything that he does,
he's just so natural. I saw we put out a
clip of him more in fifteen versus five and all
of that. I thought, everything he says is just he
is so comfortable in who he is and who is
own in his own skin. He just says what you
ask him a question, he answers it like it's just

(06:38):
a fully formed thing. Thank God Zegara is not here,
because at the end of that clip he says he
wanted to wear sixteen in high school for Joe Montana,
and they didn't have it correct, and we would have
got ten minutes on Montana.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yep, maybe we would have needed it today.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But that's so next week we'll have that to it too.
So when you get to mandatory mini camp, you're gonna
have an even bigger emphasis because, like I said this
earlier in the week, all of the pieces matter in
this thing, and so everything these guys do is being
want monitored every snap, every minute they're in the building,
every whiteboard session, it's all being watched, and the stakes
are pretty high.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, team meeting Monday, late day. I want to say
in the five o'clock hour. Everybody's got to be in
by five five point fifteen.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think on Mondayday, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
By Thursday at one o'clock, we're done.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
It schools out for summer.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
What time are the practices next week? Have you seen
this game?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yes, practices will be I want to say on that sheet.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Eleven forty maybe kind of in this window, like eleven
forty to one. Young Brock back there looking exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I know, I know we're all up at around one
o'clock on Tuesday and Wednesday, and I think noon.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
On Okay, so the podiums and stuff will yeah'll be,
They'll be during our show. Yeah yeah, young Brock. Now
with us here, here we go passing along wet of
the paper.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's fine. Mini camps at eleven thirty, eleven thirty, and
ten forty five.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, so those will all be done. It'll all be
done by one.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yep, exactly. But again, this is where you're starting to
formulate who's going to get the meaningful reps when training
camp starts. Maybe it's not the actual depth chart, but
it's the depth chart internally that determines its all. You know,
what happens. So I there's a lot riding on next week.

(08:38):
It's an important week for this franchise for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's it's so critical, you know. It's that there's so
many different ways that this season can go next year,
and so many different ways this room can go next year.
And when you look at the start of the season
and you look at that schedule, it's just hard for
me to imagine a scenario where it's anyone other than
Kenny Picket or Joe Flacco. I just I don't know
why unless one of them just is spectacular in camp,

(09:04):
just truly spectacular. It's hard to imagine a scenario where
somebody could come in and and and win that job
and then be thrown to the Wolves in that way,
because that is such a punch in the face that
start to the season to go Cincinnati Baltimore right away
and then still Detroit and Green Bay in there, play Minnesota.
I mean, it's it finishes with Pittsburgh. I mean, it's
just a brutal six game stretch. Yeah, I mean that's

(09:26):
it's AFC North, NFC North. Yeah right, Yeah, you're right,
it's all of it.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Arguably the two best divisions in football.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, absolutely no, So it's you know that. That's the
thing is you're there's gonna be and they've done a
really good job in OTA's I'm guessing they'll do it
next week in mandatory mini camp as well of kind
of doling out the reps and making sure everybody gets
a real good look. They're running the two fields very
much like college, where you would you'll have two fields
running at the same time. So I think all of
those things are helpful and really all of this stuff

(09:55):
does matter. Speaking of Kenny Pickett twenty seventh birthday today.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Big deal for him, Happy birthday, Get the celebration out
of the way, and get ready for next week. But
I agree with you, I just from a veteran standpoint. Yeah,
and that having that stable influence while you get while
you get the rookies up to speed.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Again, the rookies haven't seen how an NFL week works.
They haven't seen what it takes after you play a
game and how quickly you got to turn the page
to the next one. Like, yeah, you do that in college,
but you do it at this level in a much
more intense way.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I'd like to think, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah for sure.
So it's that's that's why Ota has been fun. Next
week's it'll be fun as well.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I can't wait. It'll be good. It'll give us a
real chance to see what what's going on here and
what the makeup.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Everyone will be here, so that's always a knock on.
Everyone will be here. Yeah, I believe I had this yesterday.
As soon as we get off air, Aaron Rodgers officially
to Pittsburgh. Now you say, oh yeah, bo, well, yeah,
of course he was gonna go to Pittsburgh's the only
place going to go. No, no, no, this has been done forever. Yeah,

(11:14):
they knew they were getting him. Maybe not everybody in
the building, but Tomlin absolutely knew he was getting him.
I don't care what they say whenever this press conference
is he knew he was getting him. Rogers, who's going
to be a Steeler. Everything that they did this offseason
was the behavior of an operation that knew that they
had a quarterback answer, not one that was still looking.

(11:35):
They weren't in on Darnold, they weren't in on Gino Smith,
they weren't in on anybody else. They didn't kick the
tires on Kirk Cousins. They didn't draft a quarterback till
the sixth round that they traded for DK Metcalff. You
don't do those things if your quarterback answer is Mason
Rudolph and a rookie and Skyler Thompson, that ain't it.

(11:56):
They didn't They weren't trying to draft somebody in the
first round. I've been saying this for months that they
were going to get him, and knowing and really truly believing,
and I still absolutely do all this stuff. I read yesterday,
the stuff from Pelasaro, the stuff from from Rapaport, all
of this stuff that you're reading it, Schefters stuff saying
that they had constant contact the whole way, and Rogers

(12:17):
said that a couple of weeks ago. Yes, this is
the way that this was going to go, and both
sides knew it. Both sides knew it, and so now
you got to deal with it's.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
A one year deal. I found that to be interesting.
You get one year now, and whatever's going to happen
is gonna happen now. I think the hope is he's
brought some issues to the locker rooms the last couple
of teams he's been with. Can he do that again
for us? Please? That's what I'm My brother in law

(12:46):
was like, Stealer, like, come on, why can't we get
a break? I go, maybe we are going to get
a break. Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe he's
maybe he drags down that franchise.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
They won, They won ten games without him. Yeah, and
he was he was just under four thousand yards, sixty
three percent completions. I want to say it was like
twenty six or twenty seven touchdowns, eleven picks last year
in New York. Have a very dysfunctional operation. He's gonna
go into an Arthur Smith offense, which he's gonna have
to learn and Z He's always been quick to push
back and say why is he not it? Wouldn't he

(13:16):
want to be at OTAs, wouldn't want to know this offense.
Maybe he has been, maybe they've had communication, maybe he's
looked at it. Maybe he's got a pretty good handle
for it. He hasn't gotten the reps, but he's going
to get the reps next week. He's in Pittsburgh today
and then he's gonna have all of the reps in
mini camp, which is probably enough time to get it
all sorted out. And my guess is he's probably talked
to Arthur Smith a lot, and they have a pretty
good handle on how they're going to thread the needle

(13:37):
on this thing to where it's Arthur Smith's offense. But
it's terminology and stuff that Rogers knows and is familiar with,
and they're probably aspects of the offense and he'll take
advantage of it. I think he's gonna play really well.
I hate it, but I think he's gonna play me too.
But they won ten games. They won ten games with
average football if he does what he did last year,
all he has to do is be top fifteen quarterback

(13:59):
in the league. They won ten without him, and they
added Metcalf. Let's look here, so I mean there, here's
something I saw. I saw this this morning on I'm
not sure what bally Bett has them at, but I
saw this this morning on another service that had the
Steelers win total over under eight and a half. Like
that feels like the safest thing you could ever wager on.

(14:21):
They always win and now they added him.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, what eight and a half? That hasn't changed. I mean,
that's that was it this morning. I haven't looked since.
I mean that was a couple hours ago. I looked
and they were at eight and a half. All right.
So last year between Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, yep,
twenty one touchdowns, six interceptions, three thousand, five hundred and

(14:51):
eighty eight yards passing. Yeah, and the completion percentage around
sixty four percent.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, so pretty similar completion less yards, less touchdown, less picks.
And they went ten and seven. And now they have
the same if he can stay healthy, the same guy
the whole time.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
With almost almost a third more touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, potentially, you know, I think for me, it puts
them if you look at the AFC now and now
we can say we're fully formed, we're kind of done,
Like this is what the AFC is going to look like.
Buffalo and Baltimore have the most pressure. They are go
win the Super Bowl or you blew your window. Boy.
I mean, I think both of them have now. Buffalo's

(15:33):
window and both Buffalo and Baltimore's window will continue as
long as they have Lamar and Allen, but you are
starting going to start to see turnover. So to me,
those two teams are the most pressure. Kansas City always
in the mix as long as He's there, and they
I have a feeling they'll be very very good again
this year and potentially even better than they were last
year with some of their offseason acquisitions and what they

(15:56):
did in the draft. Then the next rung to me
is Cincinnati, Houston, the Chargers, the Broncos. I like Jacksonville
more than a lot of people do. And maybe that's
just my cross to bear, but I but to me,
Pittsburgh's right there with Cincinnati and the Chargers. They're right there.

(16:19):
They're in that Like would it shock you if Pittsburgh
went twelve and five. That wouldn't shock me.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
It's only number one. They have an amazing defense. Yeah,
it pains me to say it. You've got a star
wide receiver. You're running games good enough, Yeah, to make plays.
They throw to the tight ends as well as anybody
with friar mouth and and that crew. And I don't
know if they're going to go get John news Smith
or not. Yeah, after the other player after their one

(16:46):
tight end went down for the year earlier this week.
I mean, they they have weapons. I mean, it comes down.
I don't know if the offensive line's better or not,
you know. I mean they look like they were trending
towards being better, but they've lost some guys in the
past year, so I don't know what that looks like.
I mean, they needed a quarterback, that's what they needed

(17:08):
to complete that roster. Now they have one.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You want to know. If you're looking for more and
more evidence that this has been known for a long time,
look no further than the schedule release. The Steelers opened
the season against the Jets. Yeah, do you know that who?
Their first Sunday night football game is against Green.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Bay in Pittsburgh, So they knew. Of course they knew. They,
I mean the league knew.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yes. I got so sick of people acting like that
this wasn't pre that, this wasn't something that was agreed
upon like you would Why would you schedule Steelers Packers
if the Steelers are trotting out Mason Rudolph and Will Howard?
Is that a Sunday night football game as big of
a brand as they are. I don't think so. No,
so that everybody knew or at the very least headed
their bets in a big way that this is the

(17:53):
way that this thing was going. So yeah, I think
it sucks. I think it sucks. It's this division, This
division I thought was already the most difficult division in football,
and now you've got quite literally three three Hall of
Fame quarterbacks starting in your division. Correct, There's no other

(18:15):
division that can claim that. Yeah, it's tough, it's really, it's.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Going to ask a lot, it's going to test this
for this franchise very early.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, you get them, you get the first two right away,
and in the first six you get all three. Yeah.
So it's I think I think they'll be very good,
and I think I think he'll be very good.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
There.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It will hill out too. I think he has when
you read this some of the chefter stuff, this is
a this is really him and Tomlin that kind of
did all of this. I just don't think that he
would do that. He's gonna do anything to upset that.
And by the way, the other thing I always keep
coming back to, I said this before in the show,
like if aj Hawk loves him, he's got to be
a pretty good dude. Got to be like ajs aj

(19:00):
Salt of the Earth, great dude, like and he loves him,
so he's got to be a good dude. Sucks now
he's there.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah, it's not great, No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
It is a Friday mailbag. Send your questions in and
we will answer those of the second hour of the
programs from yesterday very good at Brown's Underscore Daily. You
and I are great lovers of history. Today is the
eighty first anniversary of Operation Overlord, better known as.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
D Day and crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
But yeah, this is the bravest dudes ever. My grandpa
was in World War Two. He was not at Normandy
for the invasion, but he was in World War Two.
And you have I know that as well. And that
generation is just an unbelievable, unbelievably brave group of individuals
who came together for the greater good, and all they
did was save the world. The two things that are

(19:53):
best that I've seen, I've read everything you can read
on this stuff, and I know you probably have to
have as well. The two best things video wise that
have been done on this are Saving Private Ryan, where
you get it from the water, and then Band of Brothers,
where you get it from the air. And it's I
think it's the second episode of Band of Brothers where
they deal with The first episode is all to CoA,

(20:14):
Georgia and Kurrahee and all that, and then the second one,
I think is when I think the second one is
where they lay the groundwork. They're there, yeah, yeah, the
second episode lay the groundwork for it, and they're waiting
and waiting, and then finally they get their marching orders.
And the third episode is just entirely planes in the
sky dropping out of darkness into god knows where, and

(20:36):
now we got to fight and we got to go
take beach heads and all of this stuff. It's thrilling
stuff and it's told from their perspective. I think about
as honestly as anything I've ever seen. It's outstanding. I
couldn't recommend it more highly enough.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
There's a third movie, my father's favorite. It's called The
Longest Day. Really, it's an old school if you have
not ever seen.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It nineteen sixty two. Yes, look at this unner John Wayne,
Henry Fonda, Yeah, Robert Mitcham.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
It is a who's who cast. My father I already
checked in. My father has found it on the TV
on the cable. He will be watching it later today.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Look at this.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Oh yeah, I can't. You've never seen The Longest Thing.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
No.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I grew up on the Longest Day like it was
a tradition in the house.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Watch The Longest Day.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I mean the cast and this is everybody old school movie,
but it's it's got everything.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
The screenplay was written, I'll be danged.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, history buff like you, my friend, you should watch that.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I wonder if it's streaming any good question?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I found this new app. It's probably not new to most.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
People, but it's new to me. We're in our late forty,
so therefore it's new.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
There's an app called just Watch Have you heard of this?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
All right, there's an app called just Watch. I got
turned on to this and what it because I was
complaining in the morning about how my kids will just
go to Amazon and buy things a lot of time
that we have.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
And so you go on this app, you type in
the movie or show and then it will tell you
where it's streaming or where you can buy it.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
So for this so this the longest day you can
you can rent it at Apple TV.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Okay, that's where you can rent it. Yeah, highly recommend.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah. The perspective of the Germans, the Americans, the British,
the Canadians, and the free French.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
So it shows you through oh wow, the German perspective
of it too. Yes, one of my father's favorite movies.
That's pretty good. That is very good. Yeah, that's cool.
All right, Well, I'll give me something to do.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
There you go. It's just it's amazing what that generation did. Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think when I I said last summer, I watched
Band of Brothers with the thirteen year old, and would
you And I've seen it a bunch of as much
as I've seen any series, but the idea that they
didn't know what a paratrooper was and within a matter
of months they were not only as as expert as
you can be on it, but then doing it to

(23:19):
jump into France and fight Germans as soon as you
landed on the ground, Yes, within months.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Is it crazy You're going to jump into an area
and be surrounded right away fighting for your life. Yeah.
The moment basically the moment you jump out of the plane.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Down well, and then their planes were getting shot out
of the sky lift and right, I mean no, it's
a different levels. It's just a totally different thing.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It is the things that were done and what they
had to go through and everything again, like you said,
to save the world essentially.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, And I don't even know if they knew all
of the horrors that the Nazis were up to at
that point. You didn't, you know, you didn't know until
much late in the war when you got into you know,
Eastern Europe that you were able to see for yourself.
But like there was it was just the aggression, is
what that That what prompted us, and obviously Pearl Harbor
got us rolling. But like man oh Man to the
idea that a six months before that, you didn't know

(24:15):
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
This was a really interesting thing that was done by
some folks at CBS Sports. We had Ryan Wilson on
at the combine, didn't we correct? So we had him
on at the combine. He was a really cool interview,
really cool to meet him in person. So he did
a podcast called with the First Pick and he does
it with rand Carthin And one of the things that
they did is they did a conversation with Andrew Berry

(25:07):
and James Gladscowe the Jacksonville Jaguars GM about the trade
at the top of the draft. We're gonna play some
of that for you. It's fascinating stuff, really cool premise.
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As I mentioned, this is from CBS Sports. The name
of the podcast is With the First Pick. It features
CBS NFL Draft analyst Ryan Wilson, who we've had on
the show, and former NFL general manager Ran Carthon. This
conversation we're gonna play in three separate little X scripts

(26:16):
involves a conversation between that happened at the very top
of the draft. It involves us, our general manager AB
and the general manager of the Jacksonville Jaguars, James Gladstone.
Very interested to listen to this. I've not heard this yet.
Here's part one. How the trade conversation got started?

Speaker 6 (26:31):
James, you didn't have a relationship with Andrew before the
trade that happened on April twenty third, trading up from
five to two to get Travis Hunter. So I'll just
ask this quickly and then Rain you can take over.
I'll get my question here. So how did that conversation
begin when you're number one? You're young GM, so you
may not know as many gms as older GM Mike.
And then how did it go from there to get

(26:52):
to the point where you guys were able to consummate
that draft trade?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (26:54):
I think Andrew correct me if I'm wrong. Along the
way here with the finer details, the further we get
away from at the fog gear it gets. But nonetheless,
I think the owner meetings it served as a good
touch point for many of the general managers, especially for
those that are the first time in the seat, and
that was where Andrew and I were able to make

(27:16):
an initial touch point, though brief, and from there, once
our internal leadership dynamic was beginning to have deeper dialogue
about the draft itself, reached out to a few teams
there in front of us, and Andrew being one who
showed some level of openness to have a larger conversation,

(27:39):
and that continued to include more details with a few
additional touch points as time went on. But nonetheless, I
think it was roughly two weeks out from the draft
that we really had a strong framework for what ultimately
ended ended up being what we were able to execute
once Cleveland was officially on the clock. And uh, you know,

(28:00):
I got to give a lot of credit to Andrew
for being as professional and graceful and as clear of
a communicator as he was throughout that process. You know,
I'd like to think that that's what every train is
going to look like in the future, But at the
same time, I think if I do, I'm setting myself
up for disappointment. But I can't say at this point,

(28:22):
with them feeling like it was what was in the
best interests of their franchise, us feeling like it was
in the best interest of where we were, and what
we we felt like was best for the future. I
think it's It's been an enjoyable process to date, and
I think it can be a win win.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Can I may I add something here? Ryan, Absolutely, I
just say this.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
It's you know, it's interesting because you know, like like
James mentioned, we really didn't have a like a pre
existing relationship really before the spring, and for a deal
that big and to kind of keep it under wraps
for that long, you know, typically there has to be
a really strong trust between the general managers and the organizations,

(29:05):
and that's not that's not easy to build in a
short period of time, you know from my perspective, Like, Okay, James,
the youngest GM in the in the Lee Young family.
Like when we talked like just his value system, how
he communicated his intelligence, it was one of those things
like how have I not met this guy before? You know,
one of the you know, one of those situations, and
everybody who knew him spoke slowly of him. And I

(29:28):
really can't commend him and the Jaguars enough for just
He's right, Not all trades go that smoothly from a
communication and operational standpoint, and really just even from a
trustworthiness standpoint.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
So it's it's really cool.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Like, you know, we both we both joke, hopefully will
be making a lot of deals over the you know,
over the next few years and doing this for a
long time. But this first one was certainly was certainly
a pleasure.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, it was a blockbuster. So that's how the conversation
got started. The the group continues. Here's a b on
his thought process throughout the trade.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
I know you guys spoke briefly at the owners meetings,
but what was your initial thought process when you got
that call from James and you saw that he was
serious about coming.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Up to two.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, so, you know, the initial thought process was, this
gives us, you know, this gives us really the opportunity
to to walk a number of a number.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Of different paths.

Speaker 5 (30:27):
You're really entering the off season, you know, coming off
of a disappointing year and having uncertainty around the quarterback position,
as well as a core group of players that were,
you know, really approaching the end of their career. You know,
we we knew we were we were due for a
little bit of a strategic pivot, and that could be
in a variety of ways. When you're sitting with the
number two pick, you know, probably the most direct path

(30:50):
is you take a take a young quarterback, you know,
hit on him, and it's the most important position in sports.
You know what the alternative passes you take a non
quarterback that you know in this position potentially the best
player in the draft with with Travis and someone that
the league hasn't really seen before in terms of.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
A two way player.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
And then the third avenue, which you've seen teams really
like Philadelphia and Detroit maybe walk this route where you're
able to take a very good player but significantly increase
the amount of resources that you have to build the
team over a multi year time horizon. And you know,
I remember, like, you know, one of the one of

(31:30):
the first conversations we have with James and he expressed
the interest in coming up. You know, I was like, hey, essentially, well,
like you know, what are you thinking is this like,
because I mean, Ran and James you both know this
that some inquiries are just more calls for to check
the box, and then others are actually serious inquiries. I
remember telling James, I was like, you know, you know,
we're in a position where we're probably either going to

(31:51):
take a quarterback or we'll take the best player in
the draft. So for us to move off of the pick,
it's got to be something significant that you know, that
that really helps our organization over the long run. And
James was sayious because you know, look, Travis is a
really good player. He's a really good player, and you know,
I would be shocked if he's not a really good
player for a long time in Jacksonville. But for us

(32:13):
where our team's life cycle was, you know, we felt
like that was a real meaningful opportunity for us to
get another very good player, but you know, really kind
of replenish the resources that we have to build a
team over this year next.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, So a lot of interesting stuff there in terms
of what you can do at number two in the
way that you can reshape things. That phrase, I've never
heard that the strategic pivot correct.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I have not heard that either. Yeah, And I know
that we've got some guys that are getting up there
in age, but we still have a decent stable of
younger players as well that are on first contracts.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, and you know, we've we've spent a lot of
time kind of in that moment talking about how that
deal got done, why you make that deal. It's going
to be judged really on two things, and this isn't
reinventing the wheel. Is Travis Hunter a super duper star, right?

(33:17):
And what impact does he have? And what does Jacksonville
do with him? Do they let him play both ways?
Does he focus here? And then is he here? Is
he the missing piece for them? The way I read
that from Abe's perspective is one player that is not
a quarterback added to this team was not going to

(33:38):
be a missing piece. That's my interpretation of what he's
saying there. Is that correct, Travis is something we've maybe
never seen in the league before. But if you add
him to our team, we still have the same problems
that we have. And there's this other trade route allows
us to fix some of those other problems. You get
at bats, you get a number one again. Next year,
you get the pick up what you picked up this year,

(34:00):
you got Judkins. You got Judkins out of it. So
this allows you to plug a lot of holes. Whereas
once quarterback and they clearly were not quarterback, we're not
comfortable with any other quarterback at two other than cam Ward.
And once it became abundantly apparent that cam Ward was
going to go number one, to Tennessee. Then the reality

(34:21):
was that whoever they took it to was not going
to be was not going to change the direction of
the immediacy of this franchise other than a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
So I didn't cut this up. But later on in
the podcast, they asked the Jags GM, were you concerned
that Travis Hunter was going to go number one? He
goes We never we knew cam Ward was number one. Yeah, Like,
there was never a doubt in our minds. We knew
we had to get to two to get Hunter. We
didn't have to go to one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And the crazy thing so many things it's crazy about that,
But what's most crazy about it is is because now
this all of the I'm kind of like the Jags
GM like it's foggy because we lived this every single day.
But the crazy thing about that is coming out of
going into the combine, there really wasn't a consensus one
And it wasn't until after the combine that we said, oh,

(35:11):
cam Ward's going one, Like then it became known. Yeah,
But going into it, that wasn't it. It was very
much a two horse race between Ward and Shadur for
number one overall, at least that's what most of us
believed and then turned out the way that it did.
All right, Here is the third part. This is ab
and the community communication internally that it takes to pull
off a trade of this magnitude.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
Everyone sees the trade and you know, knows that it
goes down on draft night, but they don't understand the
communication that happens within the organization to make this happen.
So could you talk about your communication processes with your
respective owners, your head coach, your staff, the coaching staff.
Can you just give us the parameters of how that
goes down for our viewers.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
As Ran you alluded to and James you mentioned, it
is not you know, these trades aren't a situation or
just James and I talk and then you know, six
hours later, hey it feels done. We're going to move forward.
There's there's a at times, I joke as a general manager,
you have to be a little bit the majority of
majority whip, you know, for you know, for you know, uh,

(36:14):
any type of big decision. And so from our perspective,
the context that I would kind of give our our
listeners is for the whole spring. You know, we're traveling
the country to get to know a select group of
prospects that we might consider with the number two pick.
And it goes from a point where you hear about
them at the school and you watch them on the
film to where you truly start to like get to

(36:37):
know them and build a relationship and you know, meet
their support system and everything. And you know, when you're
picking as high as we were, you can kind of
envision them, you know, in your program, envision them on
you know, on the field, and you're building and as
you work deeper in the process, like you you you
do develop like a natural attachment to you know, to

(36:59):
these to these people, right they're they're people first and
and and player second. And so you know when that happens,
when you know James presented, you know, an opportunity to
to do to consummate a deal, it's like, Okay, we
want to be very thoughtful about this because we've done
a lot of work on these on these individuals. We
feel like it's a very short list that that can

(37:21):
make a major impact for the organization both on the
field and then you know, in the locker room. And
let's make sure that we're considering all elements of this.
So from our perspective, like where we've gone to James's point,
from year one to year six, there's a call it
a small uh cross functional group that I would call
like our senior cabinet, you know, that would have a

(37:42):
number of different lines research and strategy, scouting, contract management,
you know, things like that, where it's not everybody who's
necessarily like minded and looking at tenseively the pros and
consonant transaction obviously Louke, you know, Luke, Kevin and Kevin
into it like hey, you know, this is maybe a
little bit of a a detour that we thought could
be available, but now there's actually a there's actually a

(38:05):
route that we can take if we choose to, if
we choose to do so, you know, here, here are
the pros, here are the cons and then once there's
i'd say maybe an initial view or recommendation with being
ownership in to get you know, to get their perspective
as well, because you know, I think James would say this,
when you're picking is hot, You're when you're picking the
top five, you're hoping that player is going to be

(38:27):
a cornerstone, a face of the organization for you know,
hopefully over a decade if the guy stays healthy in place,
well can it can be a like a true organizational pillar.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And so that's something that has to be.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
A collaborative discussion, you know, before you make decision. That's
not something that should be or could be done unilaterally.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yeah, so there's there's how a deal like that gets done.
What ab said there at the end is the part
that's really critical. And this is where it'll fall on
Mason Graham because he ends up being that pick and
then you're gonna get a one next year from them.
So like this pick this year with Mason Graham in
the first round, the two number one picks next year,
next year's draft, those three players have to be when

(39:09):
we move into the dome, they are face of the
franchise guys, yep. Because the guys who are here now
were the guys we drafted in the you know, five
six years ago. They're going to be on the back
end of it at that point. So like those guys
need to be if we're gonna if if the time
you go to the Dome you're humming at that point,

(39:30):
those three ones need to.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Be dudes that I mean, that's how you get back.
That's your picks from the Watson trade.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
That's it. You have to hit on all those got
to be hits.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, I mean, I get it. You got a stockpile
and first round picks are five year contracts, you know,
and that's you haven't had one for four years basically. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, I mean k Newsom was your last number one
mm hmm. Yeah, so you need that. That's how this
whole thing be judged. And I think you can understand
how Jacksonville this is. I know that the view of
it was that we won the trade because of the
get back. It ended up being a it ended up
being a you cannot possibly pass this up. Deals correct
far exceeded like the draft. They have that thing where

(40:15):
it's like what you should get, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
A compensation.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yeah, that board far exceeded that. But if Travis Hunter
is a stud in Jacksonville and is someone who is
not only a weapon offensively for Trevor Lawrence, but also
as a difference maker in the back end of their
secondary and he's the difference between between them being because
they've got everything else, They've got the quarterback, they've they've

(40:39):
got all the young talent. They were a guy away
at least that's kind of the way I view them,
and maybe I overvalue them. I don't know, but you
are I really like their roster. I just think they're
pretty I like Lawrence more than maybe I should, quite honestly, Like,
I'll give you the blind spot to me, I don't

(41:00):
see any reason why he's he hasn't been better to me.
Checks every box. There's no reason they have all the
weapons on offense and get a solid defense. Now they
had an Hunter, like, they should be able to contend
with Houston in that division. The division's up for grabs,
it should be I mean those two teams, I mean
I think five hundred. Yeah, but yeah, no, you're right.

(41:21):
I mean that's so for both I guess my point
of this, and it's probably why these two guys, why
AB and James Landstone, the general manager of the Jaguars,
agreed to do it. They both probably feel like they
won the draft or the trade. Yeah, Gladstone got what
he wanted. Was is a game changing difference maker. They
feel like they're really close. AB needed to replenish the Coffers,

(41:41):
so we needed picks. Yeah, it could be one of
those things where both teams win. It's a really good idea.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Hopefully it is. Yeah, it's a great job by CBS
Sports and you can listen to the whole thing with
the first pick. It's a podcast. You can watch it
on YouTube or it's cool get it wherever you get
your podcast. It was they actually had both guys for
forty two minutes.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's an unbelievable John.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
It was. They asked a lot of things football related,
not football related. Yeah, you know, they got into it.
You know, we I wanted to just pluck those stuff
that really impacted us, but I mean they were pretty
candid on a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, it's a very cool idea for a limited run
podcast for sure. All right, coming up next, we'll go
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Speaker 4 (43:08):
No, Neither These two were like, what is your problem?

Speaker 2 (43:12):
I'll tell you what. I'm gonna tell you what my
problem was. This was not a good game. Oh oh,
this is not a good game.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, j Mac, it was a fantastic game. No, it wasn't.
Okac led the whole way. They led by pretty much
much double digits the whole way until the three pointer
cuts it to four at ninety eight ninety four from
Miles Turner with I think six minutes to go. There
would be no reason for you to think other than
the fact that Indiana has done this in probably already

(43:42):
three times in this in this playoff, that they were
going to be competitive down the shot.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Which it was like an NBA Finals never got It.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Was never close like Turner hit the three at night
to make it ninety eight ninety four, I want to say,
with around six minutes to go, and then oka See
responded immediately and extended the lead again. It was never
It was always a ten point game kind of the
whole way, and then it was now the finish was
spectacular the last three minutes. To be down nine with
under three minutes to go and win is impossible.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I'm like, what did I miss? Did I really miss
a good game? Okay, that's a great game. I think
you missed a great finish.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
So teams went trailing by nine plus points in the
final three minutes of an NBA Finals game since nineteen
seventy one are zero to two. Yeah until last night.
Like this Pacers team just they have a knack. They
I mean, how many times are they going to come

(44:39):
back from the brink of death?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You know what they have? Buddy? They have incredible belief.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, belief.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
It's I mean, it's one of those things that's kind
of it's a little bit out there, but like it's
amazing how much if you believe what you're capable of,
and they just believe. They just believe they're in games,
they believe they're never out of them. I was talking
to Ohio State Basketball Hall of Fame or Schoony Pen
about this yesterday. He was on the Memphis staff for
six years. And they were having to deal with Oka

(45:07):
see and what was coming. You could kind of see
it coming a little bit. And I said, well, if
Indiana is going to do something in this because I had,
okay say winning in five, I said, if this is
something where Indiana wins this series, would it have to be?
And he just went to what everybody says, which is
three point shooting, like if they shoot it better because
they had but nineteen turnovers at half yep, twenty four
for the game. Yeah, they had nineteen turnovers at half

(45:27):
and we're still in it sort of, I mean sort
of in it. They were down nine after one, and
they were kind of down around ten the whole way.
I mean it was they were kind of in that.
So around it, I'm like, I'm good this. I know
this is going to end. So I did not see
it live. I watched it this morning on replay.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Yeah it was a heck of a shot. Yeah, I
mean again, he continues to just amaze. He's clutch man,
Albert just the clutch meter is Is he one of
the top ten players in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to know that.
I wouldn't think so, but I don't know. That's the
thing about this page team. In today's NBA, where you
have blockbuster trades and teams paying millions of dollars for
multiple stars to try and contend, the Pacers don't really
have a star. He's probably it. He is their star,
but I don't I'm gonna I guess what I don't

(46:16):
know is is he I'm not comparing him as a
player in terms of their style, but is Tyrese Halliburton
his biggest star on this Pacers team as early Reggie
Miller was on those Pacers teams.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But I don't know. I mean that you're we're viewing
Reggie how he was at the end. I'm talking about
like mid nineties Reggie. I don't know that he was.
I mean, he wasn't among the top players in the
he did. But I think this, I think these it's
a pretty good supporting cast. Yeah, when you think about it,
I mean they're really deep. I mean they got a
lot of dudes.

Speaker 9 (46:49):
He as as the guy that's kind of like aged
middle between you know you guys and other guys on
the outside of the glass. I would answer that as no,
he's not as big is that. But he has the
chance to grow that if he keeps playing this way
and they keep finding ways, so.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
They'll build him a statue if they win this.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Absolutely, yeah, it's I think it's I'll tell you this
from a big picture perspective. I don't my hunches that
the ratings last night were not great. That's my guess.
My guess. I mean, they were down fifteen at half,
I think is what it was, something like that small markets. Yeah,
it's small markets, it's all of those things. Yeah, they

(47:29):
were down three, they were down twelve at half, and
it kind of felt like, Okay, nothing really to see here.
This is going to go the way we all think.
So I'm guessing for last night it was down, but
I think by I think Sunday you could get a night.
This is probably everything that they needed. We if you've
been following basketball, you know that Halliburton's been doing this.

(47:51):
He did it to us, he did to the Knicks,
did it to the Bucks. Like they've done this. So
this is kind of who they are, and now it
becomes one of those things of where you don't want
to miss it. Now, here's what I don't understand. I
don't understand why the next game is it's Saturday night
over Sunday night. If it's going to be on a Sunday,
I don't know why it's not Sunday afternoon, the way
that they the NBA blew up in the mid nineties

(48:11):
with Jordan playing Sunday afternoon in the finals, like that's
the most viewed window. So waiting till Sunday at eight
o'clock is crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Even if you played it at six, three o'clock on
the West Coast, fine, fine, great, Fine, but seventy five
percent of the US population in the eastern Central times
come on, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
But yeah, till you're right six stupid six would be great.
But if you're gonna play it at eight, play it
Sunday Saturday. Rather yeah, play it Saturday night, I mean,
do it. Then this notion that more people, I mean,
I don't know, Sunday night eight o'clock, you'll be done
by eleven. So it's fine, but it's also like to
me to have to wait until Sunday for this seems
a little silk.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Look for the first two games, it should be every
other day, and then you get a bonus day for travel. Okay,
then you get two days between and then the next
two should be game three, uh whatever, Tuesday, game four
on Thursday. Yeah, and then you know, if you have
to do extra days after that for travel, I'm with you, fine,

(49:11):
but yeah, I remember this covering the Calves with Lebron
in the finals and just having days where I'm like,
what do we can we just play.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And I don't know what they do? Are they spreading
it out for either It's also pretty remarkable then, and
you guys did this obviously with with Calves Warriors, where
you're going from here to Golden State, Yeah, back and forth.
The NHL they have the same thing there they go
to to and then all the and then one on
one it's Edmonton and Miami. You can't get further apart than.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
That, correct, not in North America.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Unless you're gonna play Moscow in Miami. I mean, it's
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (49:54):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, by the way, I still stand by it. I
will watch the NHL Stanley Cup before I watched the
NBA Finals.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I will make the miss I won't. I would be
very curious see what these two teams do on Sunday night,
Like if if Oklahoma City comes out and just annihilates
and just like leaves no doubt, which they probably should
have done last night, Like just leave no doubt. So
I'll be interested to see what happens on Sunday. Game
two of the Stanley Cup is tonight. Game one was
an absolute banger awesome and my hunches this one will

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be pretty great too.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
So Friday night, Yeah, good news. Yeah, stay up, staying
up baby, I'm watching h I have an interest in that.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, God, Indiana, that's crazy though, it's crazy what they've done.
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Speaker 4 (51:33):
At the golf outing, yeah, you know we were talking about
auction items. Sure, there was an auction item at the
golf outing to benefit the Browns Foundation.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
It was.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
It was a sweet I don't know if it was
for both nights or just one night, but it was
all you could drink, all you could eat in the
suite and the sweet plus parking.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I mean, do you think when this, when this was booked,
I wonder if they knew that Ella Langley would end
up being like what she's become, because she is, she's
a star right now killing it. But like and Wallin
has been. But I mean, but it's always.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
One of those, especially like Chesney when he goes out
on tour, he's always got an artist that is literally
on the brink and then usually that tour pushes them
into stardom.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Yeah. Yeah, she just beat him to it a little
bit on that.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, all right time for a little.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Higher lower This is We're gonna have a little fun
with some roster rankings. Hello, Gibbeck.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
A comprehensive breakdown of all thirty two teams rosters heading
into training camp with strengths, weaknesses, X factors, and rookies
to watch, compliments of pffs Max Chadwick and Dalton Wasserman.
Oh right, okay, Number one the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Eagles are the best roster.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Best roster, the biggest strength defense in twenty four, the
biggest weakness in twenty five for the passing game.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Really, I mean, they don't have many weaknesses. Their two
lines of scrimmage are great, Their defense is strong, they
can run it with Barkley, their clutch, I mean, there
just isn't They hit the lottery with Jalen Hurts because
they kind of had everything else and they land a
second round pick and he's a franchise quarterback and then

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away you go.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Yeah, they're trying to revive Dotson's career. Yeah, at he's
their third wide out. Is he alas Goddard's back. I
mean they've had some retirements and they lost some pieces
on defense. You know, that's it just happens. But there
were a couple of retirements, and they've lost a couple
other guys, especially in that secondary. But I mean they
just they replenish. So they have the number one roster

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going into training camp per PFF number two hit a
keV higher core lower. It is the Baltimore Ravens biggest
dranked in twenty twenty four. A historic ground game, Yeah,
no doubt. Biggest weakness not much pass rush juice X

(54:09):
factor for twenty twenty five guard Andrew Vorhees. If a
guard is your biggest X factor, Congratulations, you're in a
pretty good spot going into twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
This is yeah, this is appropriate. This is appropriate. They
are there's no holes. They got everything you want. They've
drafted well, they've got the you know, probably the best
overall quarterback in terms of best overall regular season quarterback
in the league.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
The only thing, the only negative about Baltimore is the
fact that now they're going to play this year with
incredible burden and pressure. That's it. Everything else it's a
it's a lovely spot.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
And to be blunt, what you do from September through
December means nothing. If you can't get to the AFC
Championship Game or Super Bowl. No, they and he doesn't.
Wait and he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
He doesn't know. But that's that's the only thing on
that I think this is correct. I think this is
the sweet spot. I think is this is the second
best roster, and you could argue it's the best.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Russ I was gonna say, I mean, Lamar's your quarterback,
Derrick Henry, Justice Hillier, running backs, Za Flowers. I forgot
that they got DeAndre Hopkins, Rashad Bateman, Mark Andrews. Your
is your tight end.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
The line is great with led by Linderbaum and Staley. Defensively,
metabk van Ney Oway, Rokwan Smith, Marlon Humphrey, Nate Wiggins.
By the way, you added Malachi Starts with Kyle Hamilton
in the backfield.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, I mean it's great, great, Yeah. I mean the
only reason that I'm cool with them being below Philly
is just because Philly's done. It's a chance that's it.
But their roster is there's no holes.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Next higher core lower number three is the Detroit Lions. Interesting, uh,
it takes us to number four and the Kansas City Chiefs.
The biggest strength last season their defense. The biggest weakness
Patrick Mahomes supporting cast. Again, when a guard is your

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X factor, you're in pretty good shape. Rookie to watch
the tackle lot of Ohio State Josh Simmons, I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
It was going to be the top a top ten
pick in this draft who got hurt who then fell
to them? Yeah, I mean he may have been the
first tackle off the board.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
He was in the conversation for that. So I got
to be honest with you, buddy. I think that these
guys are going to bounce back in a big, big way.
I think they're gonna get healthy. I think another year
was Xavier Worthy. You forget like Rashie Rice. They lost
him for so many games last year. To me, I
feel like they're gonna bounce back in a big way

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this year. There's not a whole lot in terms of
holes here on the roster. It's it's pretty good across
the board, and they have Mahomes. I think the supporting
cast will be healthy, be better. I think this is
what do they have him for. Yes, yeah, I wouldn't
have him in front of those first three, but I
think this is probably the sweet spot for them as well.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
I don't know, and the only reason why I need
to see their playmakers actually make plays.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
It's fair.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
And the quarterback, you know he's gonna set you up
for success. But I mean Rashi, Rice, Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Brown,
gotta see something if you're gonna make another run. Pachecko solid,
Kareem Hunt coming back. I think was a masterful re
signing by them. Offensive line is in good shape. Defensively,

(57:38):
I just after McDuffie at corner. The rest of the secondary,
including the safeties, they're nothing to write home about. Yeah,
I don't. And Chris Jones is a year older. Same
with Mahomes and more importantly saying with Travis Kelce. I'm
interested to see how that plays out this year. But
as long as you have Mahomes, you're in that company.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah, you're in a good spot. Rice will be the
one to watch because he was off to a pretty
great start, like it looked like he was going to
take off, and then he got hurt only ended up
playing the four games. So yeah, I think they're right
there next higher or lower.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
The Buffalo Bills are number five. I forgot that they
got Joey Bosa.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah he'll play six games, but yeah, they got him.
Hopefully it's the right six.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
It's that's also true, and it'll be interesting to see
what happens with that wide receiver room. Can can those
guys take the next step, especially Shakir and Kean Coleman,
more importantly Keon Coleman. The Rams are number six right
number seven. And this is where we have our conversation.

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The Houston Texans strength in twenty twenty four, the past defense,
the weakness in twenty twenty four the offensive line. Cam Robinson.
Hugh Houston signed free agency in an attempt to fill
Larre I mean tons shoes is the tackle to watch
in the X Factor rookie to watch Jaden Higgins out

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of Iowa State High or lower.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Just right on that roster, Can you give me eight,
nine and ten?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
I can Minnesota is number eight? Oh my god, I
the love and everybody's like, JJ McCarthy's going to be
the second coming. We have no idea.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
No one seen him playing in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Everybody's got this team in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
We were we it was on our field when he
found out he was going to miss the year. Yeah,
and Quayzy God bless him, still came over and talked
to us, and so we had that, but he had
a setback from that initial surgery. So nobody has any idea.
We're basing Minnesota being good on what they were last
year and the fact that they didn't go track down
another quarterback. So they believe that JJ McCarthy's good, but

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we have no idea what he's going to be. That's
way too high for them, way too high.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
I agree nine is Denver and number ten is Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Okay, I don't love I like that. I don't really
love any of those four. I think there are several
teams lower on this list, like Washington, the Chargers, where
the forty nine ers and all of this. There's several
teams that I would have in front of those four.
My Houston question is does CJ bounce back? Because he

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was a little disappointing last year, So does he bounce
back and revert to who he was as a rookie?
Minnesota we went over JJ McCarthy. We just don't have
any idea Denver year two, where everyone kind of knows
you're good, what does year two look like for bon
Nicks and Tampa Bay. I think they're nice. I just
think that there's a ceiling on them, and I think
it's more like around twelve thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Minnesota shouldn't be in the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
No, I don't think so either.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I think of all of them, you can make a
case for Denver being the highest of those four. Yeah, problems,
you still got to show me something. But they've got
the talent offensively and defensively. They have the Commanders at
number eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah, they're better than that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I'd like to think so, but that that's another team though,
Now that there's tape of you, Jane Daniels, what do
we get this year? And then is it McLaurin that's
not pleased with his contract?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, he's there's I mean there's talk of us being
in the mix room. I don't think that's the case.
But I saw Pittsburgh in the middle of it, so
you could see them trying to add somebody while they
have this one year run with Rogers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Next higher or lower.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
The Chargers at number twelve, would you put them higher
or lower than it seems we just messed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I like them more than say whatever you want about Harbor.
Today's a big day up in Michigan because they're having
the hearing like Connor Stallion's in there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
It's going to be it's going to be a fine,
and it's going to be probably maybe a postseason Probably
from a Buckeye fan perspective, probably the best you can
hope for is substantial fine, incredible restriction on recruiting, and
a postseason ban.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
But if you have the nil money, well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
That's why they have to make sure that the the
scholarship the scholarship restriction. Instead of doing scholarship restriction, what
I would do is say your coaches can't leave campus
to recruit, so you can keep your eighty five scholarships,
you can pay guys. They're gonna have roster limits at
one hundred and five next year and last year they
were one hundred and twenty, so that's going to make
that a little bit more difficult. But i'd keep your

(01:02:18):
scholarships the same and I would just find them heavily
and then I would just say, listen, you can't leave
campus to recruit, and I think that penalty would be significant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
You couple that with if they're hit with a postseason ban.
Now you're talking, because that would cripple a program because
in free transfer, half the guys on that team would
bounce if that absolutely, that's what I so. I have
All of that was as a lead in to get
into Harbor. Harbor is a damn good football coach, and
I think year two with him and Herbert in Los Angeles,

(01:02:50):
I think they are much better than the teams that
were ahead of them. I would have them higher.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Yeah, Omari and Hampton and Naji Harris in that backfield.
It's interesting to see how that plays out. Yeah, that's
a good squad next higher lower. It's another team here
that I would have ahead, Green Bay same. I mean
they finally addressed the wide receiver room. Where's he got
green Bay thirteen?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, they're better than that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
They're better than Minnesota, Yeah they are, and I would
put them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I mean they He's got the forty nine ers on
this list at fourteen. That's too low for them too. Yeah,
may have the Bengals eighteen, the Steelers twenty one, Like
some of this stuff is so now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
The Steelers twenty one, Steelers with Aaron Rodgers. Where do
you put them here?

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Top half of the league.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Yeah, I mean this article came out before that was Yeah,
I mean top half of the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I mean, we can do that next week we could
do our we could do our own power rankings one
through thirty one because no names plays. Yes, do one
through thirty one and see how we view these teams
compared to how this is. Because I'm looking at some
of this stuff, I don't Yeah, I mean right now they.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Have the Colts ahead of the Steelers with Anthony Richardson
as your quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Well, he's not even a correct he's gonna be t
to be heard for a while, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yeah, and the whole Arizona Cardinals at nineteen. No, No,
I'm not there either, Nope, No, I mean the Bengals
were number eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
They're going to bounce back their their wind total over
unders ten and a half. Cincinnati's Yeah, so that tells
you how they're viewed.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Yeah, they're good. They're going to be just fine. They are.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
We were thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
It's crap, but yeah, that's not We're not that we're not,
but we got to prove that we're not. Yep, we're
gonna be a lot better than we were a year ago.
I don't know if it'll manifest anything in terms of postseason,
but the roster's better, the quarterback play will be better.
There's a lot of reasons to believe that that's the
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Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Uh yeah, I had a few left over from your
Bobby's got sixty, Bobby's got his a game. Yeah, well
he's throwing heat, man, little bit Bobby. Yeah, my man.
First and foremost, before we go any further, we must
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(01:06:05):
I don't know where he is. I hope it's right
over him, Richard. He gets married in three hours, three hours,
let's go. So here's my question for you, because you
are you are a fashion fashion or I don't know,

(01:06:26):
I made that up. I think you are. I'm trying
to figure out what a tire to go with now. Tequila.
Tequila was in here earlier and I was like, no,
no, no no. I was like, do I have to wear
a tie for this because I would like to not work?

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Do you have the do you have the do you
have the invitation?

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
I do? So it turns out that the the fiance
who is a fantastic human being. I mean like, I'm
pulling up the invite. Now hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
I feel like mister Wolf in pulp fiction, like I'm writing,
give me the all the details.

Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
Katie. Katie is a sweetheart. Katie and Ricky, congratulations Ricky.
There's still time. And if there's a code word, just
I'll be ready.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
It's like, now, my guess is this Bonnie situation? I
guess is Bonnie wouldn'tant to see a bunch of a
bunch of gangers, gangsters, a bunch of blood all over
the Lemons.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Exactly, no, mister Wolf, but she would not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
So we have a fiance, all right, give me the details.
I'll tell you what to wear. What's Fila wearing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Well, Fela had his own courtsie and his girlfriend who
I'm looking forward to meeting tonight, was like, Angel, there
is no way in hell that you're wearing that now.
Fela's like when I go to a wedding, like my
dad was a firefighter, like you were. You were ready
to party when you walked into the church, like it

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wasn't it wasn't a suit type event.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Yeah, you know, you got to read the room.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
FeelA.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
She was like you. He was like, I was just
gonna go like dress, jeans and a button down and
she I think she was horrified by that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Put a jacket on, Fela.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
That was my whole thought, Like this morning, my wife's like,
are you suiting it up? And I was like, all right.
Here's when I asked you a few questions. Yeah, please,
is it indoor outdoor? It's indoors?

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Is it in a church?

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
No indoor church or reception and ceremony all in one
spot and a nicer location downtown reception indoors as well. Yeah, okay,
what is it I think is actually invited to this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I'm sure he would be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Yeah, if it makes it well, he got a tea time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I don't know about that he's got going on. Can
you give me a Does it give you anything in
terms of dress, any sort of dress? Is there any business?
What does it say about the reception? Like usually it'll
say reception, like something on there about the reception. It'll
give you like a details reception to follow, right, But
does it say like like usually it'll say black tie,

(01:08:58):
white tie, business, casual, casual?

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
All right, this is what I would do. I would
wear it's summer, I mean, might as well be. It's
we're into June. I would wear a light if you
had a linen suit. A linen might not be too much.
It's not that really that hot. But give me a
light colored suit with a button down shirt like a
white or a light blue, no tie, no tie, and

(01:09:25):
then if you get into the reception and it's a
little bit more casual, you lose the jacket and then
you're good to go.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
So I was talking to Tequila about the tie thing
because I said, I go. I was thinking a nice jacket. Sure,
a nice pair of pants and a nice button dog. Yeah,
that's what I said. I didn't I didn't really want
to suit up. It's a Friday afternoon wedding. Yeah, I
feel like that plays a little factor. It's not in
a church. I'm like, I feel like I could, I

(01:09:57):
could do that. And he said. There was some conversation
about the ties earlier this week on the video side
of things, and Rick Ricky called his fiance and the
fiance is requested that we're all being ties.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Okay, then it probably said, so, I'm like, then you
do with the fiance asked because it's her day and
the rest of your guys's opinions mean nothing. Correct, it's
just about her. So the time she wants to tie,
you wear the toe. I'm wearing the tie, but I
don't want information that I needed. Okay, you have to
suit up if you're in a tie. You can't wear
a tie with no jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
No, I'm going to wear a jacket, but I'm not
wearing like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Oh, you're talking like sport jacket. You're talking like sport
coat and a sport coat and.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Slash or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Yeah, you can do that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Yeah, Okay, I just wanted to double chat works. I
did not explain anything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I don't unless I would say, unless there's something on
the invitation that tells you. I think expecting ties without
saying it. In this day and age, I think that's tough.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
I don't think you're gonna get a lot of ties. No,
And I don't like upsetting the brides because that's their day.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
It's so I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
All right, so you're in a sport coat, you're in
a nice slack, you're in a light blue or you're
a white white shirt and you gotta tie. Yeah, you're fine.
That's that's where I was at. But what I am
looking forward to celebrate one thing that we have. One
thing that's happened is we have become way too casual
for our own good in this country. And so I
think all of these events have been so casual down

(01:11:25):
that it's hard to know if they'll ever go back.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
So that so this goes back. This is a conversation
I had with Connor and with Fela. Yeah, I said,
for the wedding party, if they're wearing nikes, you know
how everybody wears like that's the new fat. I'm like,
to me, that is not dressing up. The tennis shoe
look is not a dress up for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
No, I know people do that, I know, and I don't.
Are they doing that here? I don't think so. Yeah,
but I don't know. Here's what I did. This is
why we did h in the in the for our wedding.
The reason that we did tuxes and ties for the
wedding was timeless. I had too many of like my
uncle's pictures in like these polyester suits that were like

(01:12:10):
topee or light blue. I mean they look like dumb
and dummer with this craziness from the seventies, yeah, and eighties,
and it's like, man, if here's the deal. If you
would have worn a black tux, you could have been
from twenty twenty or nineteen twenty and it all looks
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
So that's why I always feel like, for me, that's
what we did. I'm like, I'm more in Texas because that's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Timeless, and that's I was going to wear a coat
and slacks. I just was hoping to get away with
no tie. But that is out the window. And I
appreciate that information.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, that's important.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Yeah, Preston tweets at the show. If you had the
opportunity to participate in a sporting event, irregardless of your
actual athletic ability, what would it be? Mine is main
event WrestleMania for WWE Championship is the ultimate babyface.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I I would love to be in the final pairing
at the Masters and win it. I think there's a
timelessness and plus that's of all of the sports that
I'm most incompetent at where it feels like the payoff
is the biggest. Like just think with how that sets
you up for life. Master's Champion. Have you got one day?

(01:13:20):
Like going back to the meal you're going? I mean,
like all of that stuff, Like, it's such a money
thing to win. I think that's the one I would do.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Look what it's done for Dustin Johnson because he hasn't
done it, no sense?

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
No, I mean yeah, I think it's a really that's
the one that would be for me. What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
I don't know. I hadn't really, I hadn't thought about it.
I hadn't given it's the Master's thing. Is is such
a good one that I'm gonna roll with that. Yeah,
it's a good one. It's good dog Pound, Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
I took your advice. I'm going to put In Bay
for a few days while visiting Cleveland. It's a good move.
Kelly's Island as well. Take the ferry. You can hopscotch around.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, they're fun.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
If I question for you, if I leave my car
on the mainland while there is there a place I
can store my luggage if I want to arrive earlier
than my check in time. I don't have an answer for.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
You on that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
I know there's lockers because you know, I've gone up
for a day and you put your you know, if
you're gonna if you're gonna sit in the uh in
the pool and sit at the pool bar all day, like, Yeah,
there's nowhere to put clothing, so there are lockers to
lock stuff up. I don't know how big the locker
is for your luggage, so I don't. I don't really
have an answer. If you're staying at a hotel on property,

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then maybe check with them and see if you can
give them your luggage early.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah I don't. I don't. I have never done that,
so I can't speak to storing luggage. Why couldn't you
just story it in your car in the trunk.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
And then just go back across the boat you get it. Yeah,
go back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
It's very safe, like I don't there's no you're not
gonna have to worry about. It's very well patrolled. I
mean yeah, this is their entire industry, so they're not
gonna have it anything besmirch it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:01):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Yeah, So and enjoy it. Hopefully it'll be above eighty
degrees that when you go, because currently it sucks here.
Let's see, just catching up on this week's shows. This
is from Don Benoit, a great program on Apple TV
to watch his slow Horses.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I've heard that that's about old I six guys in England.
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Okay, yeah, let's see, let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
This is from Brownsbackers, North Jersey about tell D Day.
Did you know the Germans didn't know where the invasion
was going to take place. They thought Kalais was the
spot as the Germans were working on the V two
rockets there. Had they spread out their fortifications more evenly,
who knows what would have happened. Well, obviously they didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
We were coming.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
No, no, no, I.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
The the I the most the best thing I've seen
on it is the Band of Brothers one because it
is the way they light up the sky, the way
that it shot the the idea of those guys dropping in,
being separated from their groups and their units and having
to try to make it work and all on the
same day. Go take this this fortified position where these

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guns are. It's still taught at West Point what Dick
Winners and those guys did that. Oyay, it's still taught there.
So yeah, I don't know. It's it's just such a
I'm in awe of it, of all of it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Uh from Bobby. Bobby the best explanation of you can
take the kid out of the bay Area in parentheses Montana,
but you can't take the bay Area parenthesies Montana out
of the kid. Is bo wanting to use the golden
shovel for shoveling.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I going to use it around the house, the shovels. Yeah,
I was gonna use I got shoveling work that I
can do. I was gonna use it. I was gonna
put it to work.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
I was gonna work to do this weekend while the
wife is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Yeah, I got things I can do with it. Yeah,
I'm ready to use it. Man, if you could be
any superhero, who would you be?

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
And why?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I feel like Tony Stark, which wouldn't have been my
answer in the old days, but I think he's probably
got the best life. Like Batman is always kind of
angst Tony Starks seems like he's having the best time ever,
which is something of a rock star. That would not
have been my answer because I had really no relationship
with Iron Man growing up, and I was a big
Batman guy growing up. But yeah, it feels like Tony

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Sark's got to kind of sort it out a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
All right, real quick? From Bobby, what's your idea of
a perfect vacation family beach chill, chill being the key word,
chill is key. Yeah, I don't need to chase around.
I do enough of that. Correct. And that's this week's
addition of the bonus mail bag.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
There you go, There you go. Save all those Bobby ones.
He's got about a thousand of them on there that
we're going to let the book mark those coming up next,
Joe but Tony at the Podium. You listened to Cleveland
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Joel Buttonio from the Cleveland Browns Foundation Golf outing. How's
your golf camp.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
It's trending. We're doing all right.

Speaker 10 (01:18:46):
You know, off season, got the simulator in the Browns
facility now, so that's that's helped a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
So I've been playing pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:18:54):
I think I'm floating around a ten of handicap right now,
so it's so pretty solid.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Evn't told us the simulator, Wizard take to getting your back.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
It might have been, it might have worked.

Speaker 10 (01:19:04):
You know, early in the offseason I was in and
I was kind of working out and playing golf, and
you know, Kevin will walk by and ab and I
was like, at this point, if I told him I
wasn't playing, it might get a little weird, you know
what I mean, Like I've been like using the golf
simulator every day. But but no, it's that's funny. That's
a good, good part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
So, Joel, you've learned.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
A few perks and a couple of course in your career,
and one of them what you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Need to be at the stage of the off season.
But can you you wouldn't do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
That five year, five years into your career. Could you
speak to what you think is the importance of the OTAs.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
For the team. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 10 (01:19:39):
There's a process that you want to get your offense installed,
you want to get your defense installed, you want to
get your foundation of what your standards of a team are,
all that stuff, and then you want to get reps
of guys getting reps at doing the technique and learning
the technique. And I got to a point in my
career personally where it was the extra reps for versus

(01:20:00):
how my body feels. And so I've kind of worked
through that over the last few years, and like this year,
I've been in meetings. I've been in the weight room
with the guys. I've been working out, I've been in
you know, Maria all off season, so I've seen that,
I've been around the guys, and it's really just a
process of getting guys reps and and building your depth
and finding guys because truly, I don't think anybody makes
the team or doesn't make the team in OTAs, but

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you get a foundation of, you know, what you want
your team to be.

Speaker 8 (01:20:25):
So the last time, a few times we talked to
you in the off season, this was obviously a big
decision for you to decide whether or not.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
Any of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Now you've been that, you've been back for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Well, how how does it feel to be back?

Speaker 11 (01:20:37):
Do you feel like the right decision?

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Yeah, it's been great. I was.

Speaker 10 (01:20:43):
I was truly like it was truly a decision, you know,
like this off season, Like I was at the end
of the year, I was, you know, truly deciding if
I wanted to play anymore. And I kind of sat
at home for a month or two and and you know,
was in and around and talk to my wife and
we just like went through the process and I was
like I could still play football at a high level.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
I still want to play football.

Speaker 10 (01:21:06):
And you know, after the discussions with coach Stefanski and
Andrew Berry and they don't tell you like who they're
drafting or anything, but you know, just a style of
offense we were going to run. Who We're gonna you know,
try and bring in at quarterback, offensive line, coach, you know,
Coach Bloom was a big part of it. He he
was just you know, we went to dinner a couple
of times and just talked on his philosophies. All those

(01:21:28):
things played in But at the end of the day,
I was like, I'm not ready to be done. I
want to play more and I want to play in Cleveland.
And that was that was kind of my my mindset.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
How important to you is that the team choose the
best quarterback to win this season rather than to assess
their future.

Speaker 10 (01:21:46):
Yeah, we want the best guy. I think I said
that on a radio spot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
I did.

Speaker 10 (01:21:50):
But we want the best guy. You know, we want
the best guy to compete. And you know, you understand
that the team has a duty for future years. But
I think going into the season, like we're gonna put
the best guys out there and we're gonna We're gonna
try and win as many games as we can. We
know we're in a tough division. We know the AFC
is tough, but you know, I think we have faith
that we're gonna we're gonna put the best guy out there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
Fell apart like it did, Joel, You've had a chance
to kind of.

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
Sit back and maybe analyze it. It was kind of
a snowball. I think we started out and we just
didn't perform to expectations and and we could say it
was the scheme, and you know, the players that were
there and stuff, and I think it just comes down to,
like we weren't good enough, and then we kind of
let that affect us and and by the halfway point

(01:22:37):
of the season, you're out of it. And and guys,
you know, we we struggled to put winskelet you know,
we had a little spark when Jamis came in and
we beat Pittsburgh and like Baltimore and we're like, all right,
we could play with anybody in this league. And that
kind of to me, that showed that we still had
the ability, and we just we just couldn't put together wins.
You know, that Denver game was close and you win
a couple more of those toss ups early on. I

(01:22:58):
think it it kind of changes things. But overall, I
think we just had the wrong metality, and I think
Coach Fancy has already stressed the toughness that we need
to bring back. The how practice going to be. I
think mini camps. I'm not mini camp, but the Ricky
Mini caamp and the OTAs have already kind of picked
up that tempo. You know, we're not resting on any
laurels of playoffs or anything like that. It's a new
team and we have to establish our standard and what

(01:23:20):
we want the Browns to be.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
This offseason.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
What Andrew Berry did just you know, what's your view.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
On it and how much you know? Did that make your.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
Your decision easier?

Speaker 10 (01:23:34):
Yeah, you know, I already had obviously a relationship with
Joe Flacco. We bring him back. Kenny Pickett from everybody
I've talked to and been around up golf with him
a couple of times, he's just a guy that wants
his chance and he's hungry to prove that he can
play in this league. Then you draft two young quarterbacks,
so I think the quarterback room, like we have four
guys that are can compete that. Like I said, we

(01:23:54):
want to put the best guy out there and and
kind of see where we are. I think we did
a lot with our defense. You know, you bring in
a young top five pick at defensive tackle, you sign
a couple other guys to bolst of their defense, and
you hope the defense can come back to twenty twenty
three and be one of the best in the league.
And the offense can ball control, run the ball, play action,
do all the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Things that you want to that.

Speaker 10 (01:24:15):
That's like the picture you paint and you know, you
see where you're at, and that's what we're kind of
hoping for. But hope is, you know, an easy word.
We're we're trying to work for it, and we're trying to,
you know, put the group out there and try and
win some games this year.

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
Joel, you and Jack were both very vocal right after
the season about the offensive scheme and getting back to
sort of what the identity of this football team. How
much do you feel like what's Tommy and Kevin and
Mike have are sort of putting together. How much does
it kind of get back to the roots of what
this team identity should be.

Speaker 10 (01:24:48):
Yeah, For me, it feels like a twenty twenty one
install of the outside zone with power schemes mixed in,
which I think is the strength of you know what
are our line is. Obviously we're a little bit older,
but like Jack comes from that outside zone, why it
is one of the better pullers power blockers in the league.
Polk can kind of do it all, but I think

(01:25:09):
it fits us so much, so much better. And then
for an whole line, like you know, you drop back
forty fifty sixty times game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
And that's still gonna happen. It's a past.

Speaker 10 (01:25:16):
You still have to pass the ball to win in
this league. But if you can have a brand of
like we're gonna take care of the football. And I
think the way we won in the past is like
our defense was fresh, like the games that they played great,
they play fifty or sixty snaps, not this seventy or
eighty snaps a game. And so if we can control
the ball and handle those things, I think it's a
big step. But from the installs and from what I've seen,
it's it's going back to what coach Defanski has been

(01:25:38):
known for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
The toughness.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
We're establishing the toughness starts.

Speaker 10 (01:25:43):
Yes, that, yeah, we gotta be we gotta be tough upfront.
We gotta you know, turn two three yard runs into
four and five yard runs. You know, our defense has
to be tough.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
It's all. It's all toughness.

Speaker 10 (01:25:54):
It starts, you know, training camp and and just having
that ability to go to battle and when things do
not going. It's a long season. You're gonna lose some games,
but how do you bounce back? How do you not
let one loss turn into two? And so, yeah, we
we gotta we gotta be tough upfront for sure. This
You go into this season after you've made that decision
thinking this is the last one. It will it be
every off season. I think it's gonna be every off season,

(01:26:17):
you know. I I definitely am not gonna take like
a retirement tour. You know. I think we're we're we're
filling this out one year at a time. If I
go into next offseason and I'm feeling good, like, we'll
see what we got left, you know, if if you know,
we want to still play. But but right now, I'm
just focused on this season and uh, you know, playing
for for this Browns team.

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
Coach Bloomgerden, Like, what have your first impressions.

Speaker 3 (01:26:38):
Been of him?

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Can you go in a little more detail on that?

Speaker 10 (01:26:40):
And you guys going to dinner, and yeah, he's been positive.
You know, he's he's a true like O line coach.
You know, he gets nitty gritty in the details. He's focused.
You know, every day I'm getting some better. You feel
his energy like he was a head coach obviously for
a long time, but he worked with Stanford and the Jets,
and you know he's pulling up clips of like David
DeCastro and college like pulling and stuff things where you're,

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all right, this is some O line O line stuff
right here. And so you get these clips and then
he gets out on the field and you feel his presence.
You know, the O line coach kind of like needs
to be for return. You need that, like you need that,
you know, and it kind of rubs off on the guys.
And he's been great. I think he's developing the young guys,
trying to get them work. But it's been awesome. You know,

(01:27:24):
we had dinner. He just kind of talked about his
philosophies and and you know, his family, my family, what
what we expect in and he's like, oh, you could
play for four more years. And I was like, all right,
we're talking a little crazy now, but but uh no,
it was good and so far, so GoodFORM to us Ondesday.
What do you say, Yeah, I think he's you know,
losso weight. I think he's he's focused, he's rehabbed, he's

(01:27:46):
pretty much here all off season rehab and I think
he's focused, and I think he knows like, all right,
you're gonna play left tackle this year, so you can
just work at it, focus at it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
But he's ready to take a step.

Speaker 10 (01:27:58):
And I know he's you know, you get close to
those contract years and stuff, and I think you want
to put a healthy season together and if he stays
healthy and can pass pro and do the things that
he can do, like, they'll be good for him.

Speaker 8 (01:28:07):
Well that's one here about else Joel, this event, you've
been a part of us for the many years.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
This is the twenty fifth year.

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Why is it important for you? But other players also
be here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
In the importance event.

Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
Yeah, Browns give back and everything they've done with stay
in the game and the building the fields out in Cleveland,
it's pretty special. I tell people about that all the time,
Like I'm like, you know, you hear headlines for the
Browns and stuff, But what they do in the community
charity wise, is special and this is their biggest fundraiser
of the year. You get to come out and play
great golf course, have some fun, interact with people. But

(01:28:37):
it's it's a great cause and to help the people
that you know cheer us on and help us is
really a no brainer for us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
So which quarterback competition was your favorite in my career?
That's a long one. I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:28:51):
We'll put it in the in the book me and
Dan will put together sometime, you know, well, we'll talk
about our qv competitions.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
All right. There you go, Joel Buttonio from theating with
the Cleveland Browns Foundation golf outing so much more to come.
You listen to Cleveland Browne Daily on a fifty ESP
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Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
We get a nice weekend ahead of us.

Speaker 10 (01:29:27):
Give it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
You're gonna be all right?

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Uh no, come on, I'm pull up, pull up your
pull up your authority, because I believe Sunday sucks again.
Oh no, yeah, I don't know where that came from.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
It came out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Yeah, this morning, I'm like, wait a minute, I have it.
I have a two o'clock tea time. The wife's out
of town, living my best life. Not so fast, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
So if you're gonna play, it's you have to be
tonight or it's gonna have to be.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
I have a wedding tonight with a tie. With a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Now mostly cloudy, couple of thundershowers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
Yeah, there's a steady Now. My forecast said steady rain
Sunday morning. Well, that screws up the rest of the days.
Everything Now tomorrow, nice day, get out and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
I didn't need that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Happy Friday. Mini camp week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
That'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
This is gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
A cavalcade of star is set to join us.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
This will be fun. Gonna be fun next week to
once we get into some mini camp last week, and
then before you know what, you're gonna be here for
training camp. No need to rush it, but no quickly,
all of this is going. The next level is coming
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