Previewing the Week in Philly - Cleveland Browns Daily - 8.12.25

On this Tuesday edition of CBD, Zegura shares the top five things he's watching for during joint practices in Philadelphia (37:13). Also, hear from WR Jerry Jeudy at the podium (1:01:18) and "Training Camp Insider" featuring Z, Browns legend Bernie Kosar, and rookie LB Carson Schwesinger (1:10:11).

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Let's still live on a Tuesday edition of the program,
merely Bo.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Pancho Villa. This is so.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I see, so he's in one of these Hof shirts.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I want to say.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I want to say that Colt McCoy's involved with this
company in some way. I want to say that's where
I think that that might be right some truth.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Whether he was.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Involved with the company or or Hoff learned about this
brand like via him, I'm not sure, but I feel
like there's a connection. So you come come into the studio,
just dashing into this studio like a hero. Look at
those I mean, they can tight tight fit. I mean,
and I just you look to me, it's a lovely shirt.
It's one that I would wear, like to do. Hey,

(01:23):
you're ready to go, that's me.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Just send you down to the Ponderosa with a pitchfork.
By the way, that's right. Well, the hey uhy seriousness.
The video from Hoff with the flooding in Wisconsin was
crazy not good.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Yeah, I've been and texting with unfortunately, uh note structures, people,
livestock were harmed. They're gonna have to kind of set
up a temporary pasture, which is not easy. Because he
said the flooding was so bad that no, it's called
six springs. So the good news is when it doesn't
rain a lot of places, they always have water and

(02:04):
the grass has grown very well for their their cows
and the wagu And then conversely, when there's a ton
it's basically the runoff area for hundreds of miles around.
It kind of all kind of ends up there and
so it's wild the guts he said five inches of
rain I think, okay, and then and like at once yep,

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and then an inch the next day. But because it
all comes there, that basically his whole pasture. So there's
like a river. When you're driving to his place, there's
a road, there's a river kind of off to the left,
and in between that.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
The road and the river is like his whole pasture.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
And then the video, because I've seen it for it's
all underwater yea, so he said he thinks it's before
it's not just I guess apparently it's not just as
simple as then it dries and goes away and the
grass is okay. Like that, it sounded like you said,
for that grass to be back to where it needs
to be is going to take like a month.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That would make sense. Yeah, that's that's out of it. Yeah,
that would seem to make sense to me, though. College
to come up, but Farm Nate is still very I.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Would imagine that it would that essentially is the ground
would boil. Essentially it is with the because the water
is going to be so warm, because it's going to
be hot.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yep, like it is. I'm guessing that's probably what's going on.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
So they're finding they've got temporary pastors, and you said
all the neighbors everybody really like helped. That could have
been a lot worse, and so it's it'll be good.
They're just going to be eating different grass for a
little while. The grays somewhere else kind.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Of go somewhere else. Yes, it's scary to see.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I mean, we had I saw this this morning. I'm
assuming it's the same up here, but in central Ohio today.
It was the nineteenth day over ninety. The average that
you have over the course of a year is nineteen. No.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
No, this is already well through the days over.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Ninety, hottest and most humid on record.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah. Yeah, it tracks. I mean it is and I
feel it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was NBC's got football practice today and I'm like, man, like, dude, hydrate.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Up now, dude. It almost took out Nana.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
What happened to Nana?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Saturday? I'm back, you know. We got back basically Saturday morning,
three am. I got home roughly two forty five. Maybe
wake up feeling good. Kids are over, Luca the great
Miss kay having or we're having a great time.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Nana comes over.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
She's watching my postgame recap and then when it's done,
she's like, I'm gonna go take a walk as she
always does, always do, just takes a walk with the dog.
We're sitting there, me Kayla, Luca.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
He does a lot of that. Actually, it turns out.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Either sitting or lying, mostly lying. Arden and Bryce, and
then all of a sudden we hear like he help me,
help me, no way, So we run to the to
the door at the garage door into the house. You know,
where you come in open it and there's my nana
like on the steps, like no, lying down. So we're like,

(04:56):
oh my god, what's going on. Yeah, obviously I'm laughing
because she's fine, but it was very scary in the moment.
So we get her inside and she's just like on
the ground in this position. She's like, I'm was kind
of talking a little bit of nonsense. She was gonna faint,
and you know, Boods goes and gets her. We get her,
she's so she ends up being covered in frozen out

(05:17):
of Mammy, frozen mpignata is in a box, which I
thought was a real choice by Boods, which was hysterical.
Some some epignatas in a box the out of Mammy
and a soft pack, so it was kind of like that.
And then onion rings, a big bag of rings, and
then we got a wet towel on her neck. We
called nine one one. They came very quickly, which was great.

(05:38):
That's what she wanted, so we got to get nine
one one.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Well, it was pretty scary at first, like she was
down and then she said she was like I just
started to feel weird and like I was gonna faint.
Halfway in my walk and she's like, and I thought
I would see a car, or I thought i'd see
somebody to get help, and nobody came.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
So she's like it was just.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Through sheer will and determination, one from the other. She
got to the house and then like collapsed. She's Andy
Dufrain one hundred percent. So she gets there, she's in
and so we call.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
They came within like three minutes, and honestly, by the
time they got there, it was like we knew things
were gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like at first, she's like, I need my wallet, and
what do you call the thing that.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Gives your phone power like your chargers's yeah, So she's like,
that was pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh, I watched them. I listened to the moon landing.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
On the radio.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
So by the time they get there, it's pretty clear
we're gonna be okay. She is able to kind of
sit up. They take her in the ambulance, take all
of her vitals, and then she ended.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Up being She ended up being fun. She's okay, she's okay.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
She had to go sleep, and now she's like back
to one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
But it was very like hydrate Nana.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Hydrate, and she said, she walked in a way that
she didn't normally, so she was in more exposed son
than she usually is. It's just a heat in the humidity.
It's tough. It's tough, and it wasn't Sartay was like
eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Saturday was as bad as Sunday, Sunday, Monday, Monday. Yeah,
So long story short, She's okay. It was dramatic.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, and I you know, I have a census for
a flair for the dramatic. Sure come from it very honestly,
but obviously a good we can joke about, because a
very good So, thank goodness. Nanta's okay. She is the
official Nana. She's the official Nana, and uh yeah she is.
I told her we we need you, We need you

(07:33):
Nana for a great many reasons. What is Nana saying
now that she wants She We asked if she wanted
nine one, but she didn't say yes. She said yes,
So then it was that it was called.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
All that matters is that she's okay. That's right, That's
all that matters. She's the official Nana. She's a princess.
She deserves all of it, and we just want to
make sure she's all right.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
So that's very very good. Yeah, but be careful out there.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And you know everybody's in the in the football mode now,
it's all over the stat the football mode coaches out there,
and honestly, this is the one thing just public service.
But you talk to like our trainers, you talk to voos,
you talk to all the folks who are smart on
this stuff. The folks at uh like, it's pre it's
hydrating before it's neutation, before it's it's eating. Right, it's

(08:16):
hydrating leading up to You can't wait for the kids
out there. You can't wait to get to football and
then to start to start sucking down a bunch of water.
You got to do it beforehand. You have to pre
hydrate for these type of days. Have to be brutal
out there, absolutely brutal. It's going to be here before
we know it. We're we're headed for pre season week
number two, headed over to Philly for the joint practices

(08:37):
on Wednesday and Thursday. You guys will leave this afternoon.
These are critical joint practices for our football team. They
are especially critical at the quarterback position. This is a
critical week for the quarterback room. I would say I
think it's fair to say we kind of laid out
kind of what we think could be. But beyond that,
I mean, it's it is, it's very critical. I would
think for Kenny Pickett that he gets back and can

(08:59):
do some leven on eleven. If he can't, then pay
attention to that. It's a critical if he can. If
he can't, then well, yeah, turn out the lights. Yeah,
and the party is over that one or closing time.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Fantastic song. That's I mean, that's my that's college well
that's right, yeah, yeah, semi sonic.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, great song. Is that the one they have? I
don't know. I have two.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
CDs and I can't tell you.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
So.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That it was a good one.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Two am, every bar, every bar.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
In America at two am on a college campus closes.
That's it.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
It's kind of a genius thing that they did that song, because, yeah,
you know that that song is going to have ultimate
stays they did. I think somebody was like, hey, we
need a song about like the end of the night
at a bar. And if we call it closing time,
forget the sentiments. But if we actually just call it
closing time and say that they're going to play it
in bars.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do you? I know you do.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Remember I'm asking this rhetorically, but when you were that
song and all these memories rush back, Like the def
Con one, it was to find out where are we
going next?

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, like he's got the after party? Where are we going?
Do you have a pool?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
And this with who?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well that's discovered that. When I went to the South,
I was like, oh, you guys have a little advantage
here with with your no winter stuff a little better.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It is better.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
But yeah, like that was like the panic of like,
where are we going? It's not in and now, because
every new beginning goes from some other beginnings end.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Back to the quarterbacks. Two rookies. Massive for Dylan Gabriel
this week Massive for two.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
And here's the thing with Dylan Gabriel. He is under
I think incredible outside pressure for this game in Philadelphia.
I don't think he's under incredible internal pressure for this game.
He is a rookie third round pick who will be
making his preseason debut as long as everything goes right.
But he's gonna be under incredible outside pressure. And there's

(11:04):
no way you can be a Clydesdale, you'd still know
that that was going on. Now, maybe you'd be a
horse fever, actually a horse you couldn't read or comprehend
what we be talking about, but the horse sense of
the man that gets.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
In our own social media the first images up every time.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Well, so Chris Rose told me, and I believe it
to be true. He said, and I quote that this
was the highest rated preseason game on NFL network in
a decade.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I believe we had that. So Shaudor equals ratings. There's
no doubt.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think that what we saw was very encouraging. I
think that part of it is everybody externally viewed Shadoor
as being better than Dylan Gabriel, like universally right now.
The reality of the situation is that, for a variety

(12:05):
of reasons, which we have talked about, someone with the
pre draft process and now it went the National Football League,
thirty two teams in the NFL viewed Dylan Gabriel as
better than Shaudor Sanders, or maybe not thirty two. Maybe
some didn't draft either one, but that seems to be
pretty much, well, we know certainly that's how it went.
Certainly in our building yep. Again, not based on the tape,

(12:29):
solely based on all encompassing everything it takes to be
a quarterback in the National Football League. Dylan Gabriel is
in a tough spot. I feel badly for Dylan Gabriel.
I really do, because you can listen to any of
the discourse going on and people are saying, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Like why is he here?

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yeah, well, he's here because the Browns really liked him.
Their playing all along was to go into this season
with Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. That was
the target. Whether you guys like it or not. Things
fell and they said this is too good a lottery
taken to pass up with Shorge Sanders and now he
is here as well. But Dylan Gabriel, you know, there

(13:06):
is it. There's a lot of outside pressure on him.
He needs to go out there and look good. I
think on Saturday. Now he's played in a ton of
big games, he's got as much experience, he does everything
the right way, but he's gonna have to go out
there and execute on Saturday, and I think that's somewhat unfair.
I think people need to just realize again. And I've
said this ad nauseam. When you draft a quarterback in
the third round and in the fifth round, as the

(13:26):
Browns did, These are not supposed to be your franchise saviors.
Now there's a perception that should door Sanders can be
that franchise savior. And I certainly think that he has
everything it takes. If he can get all of the
stuff it takes to be a quarterback, all of the stuff
to be a professional quarterback in the National Football League,
the stuff that we don't see, the meetings, the preparation,

(13:46):
the process, all of those things, the pre snap, all
of the things that you'd operation, all the things that
you need to be a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
He can do that.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
I believe he possesses the talent to absolutely be the answer. Now,
Dylan was probably drafted in many ways to be We
really really like him. We think his floor is that
he can be a long term backup for us on
a good contract over the next few years, which is
very important for this franchise. But we really like him.
And he's been successful everywhere he's gone, and he's played

(14:13):
at three big programs. He's been successful at all three.
He's the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year last
year at Oregon. He's had three a season everywhere he's
been with thirty two or more passing touchdowns and six
or fewer interceptions, three different stops, different systems. He's started
more games than anybody in college football history. Still more
touchdowns than anybody in college football history. He's tied with
Case Keenon for that. He's got second most passing yards
in college football history, behind only Case Keenum. He's got

(14:35):
the most total touchdowns in college football history. Could he
end up in a case that'd be great, That actually
be a really good outcome. So I think people just
need to enjoy what we're going to see. I think
with the Kenny Pickett injury and it's unfortunate, you feel
badly for him because I think he just wanted a
shot to prove he could be a starter again. And
this injury is really, unfortunately just ripped the heart out

(14:57):
of the work that needed to be done. And so
Joe Laco has been the best quarterback on every relevant ability,
most importantly availability yep, because he hasn't missed any and
he's getting into good groove.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
He looks great. So my guess is, if.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Kenny Pickett is unable to go in eleven on eleven's
this week, that'll probably be it, and we're going to
get an announcement that it will be Joe Flacco as
the starting quarterback, which sets up for a heck of
a shootout. I think week one against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Now to the rookies. As I said, yes, say everything
changed and nothing changed. I think everything changed in the
sense that it is clear he is the guy that

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we saw on tape in college and then all the
people who really like shador Sanders saw everything that they
wanted to see. Now there's room for improvement and there's
going to be a lot that goes in. What we
have to hope is that that game, that juice he got,
that fire, that it that he felt in the it
factor that he you know, had, and radiated across that stadium,
across the airwaves and became the number one story in football.

(15:57):
George Sanders is the number one story in football.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's right. That that.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Gets him even more and he's done everything to get
caught up.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
But maybe it's like find a way more more and
more and more and more.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Because if he can get himself on the field in
this regular season, I have no doubt he's going to
be successful, and I think we need to see him
on the field in this regular season. Yeah, and that
will be up to a confluence of factors. But whatever
is in his control, I think that obviously, if he
can capitalize on that, we're going to see good stuff. Now,
Dylan Gabriel, He's gonna get this opportunity. I hope Browns
fans have an open mind about it. Our offensive coordinator

(16:32):
Tommy Reese walking by so about a month younger than Yeah,
there you go to a member of the Reese clan.
Dylan Gabriel does everything you want. He is going to
be a valuable asset for this organization. Does that mean
he's the answer of the Savior at quarterback?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
We're gonna have to see how that plays out.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
He is a rookie that is impressed. I know that
the coaches have hold him in very high regard. I
thought he had an excellent day yesterday and that was
in some ways I thought a pressure situation for him
come off of Schador's game that first practice, and he
looked very good throwing the ball. Now we're going to
get to see that on Sunday, these are all Cleveland Browns.
We want all these guys to be good.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, for sure, we want all these guys to be good.
It's not time for tribalism.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Let's just no get these guys going and let's get
to a position where we've got too many good options.
Because the fastest way for this organization to turn it
around is for Dylan or Schador to be the guy.
Oh yeah, and then you can go in a next
year with two ones. Maybe you can turn one one
into three more ones.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
There's a lot.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Available to you if if these guys can hit.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's why we use the word lottery ticket. That's exactly
what they are. So I think you're hitting it if
you if you hit one of them.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
And I just think they need to be judged that way.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Of course they should be judged that way, but they
can't expand we cannot. You cannot expect rational thought in
a situation like this. And same too when it came
you mentioned those numbers that Chris had about you know,
most viewed in ten years from an NFL preseason game
on the NFL network. Well, here, it's pretty simple. Why
Shudeur Sanders over the last two years was one of

(18:04):
these stories in all of college football. He was part
of one of these stories in college football. Buddy, they
did ten million viewers for a ten o'clock kick against
Colorado State two years ago. Ten million. That's NBA Finals
World Series numbers. It's a rivalry game between Colorado and
Colorado State at ten o'clock on ESPN did ten million.

(18:28):
They were one of the stories of college football. So
that was a two year run. His teammate, one of
his best friends, won the Heisman in an unprecedented fashion.
We've never seen anybody play both ways over two seasons
and do it at that level, and Travis did. So
they were in the front of all of that last year.
During the season, they were in the mix for the
College Football Playoff until really the end they had a loss,

(18:50):
I want to say to Kansas late that derailed them,
but otherwise they very like.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
They won nine games.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
If they would have won ten, they probably would have
got in the College Football Playoff. So then you fast
forward to the off season. He was the story of
the combine even more than cam Ward. It was where
does Shador go? We figured out of the combine that
cam was going to go one, but it was Shadour
everything from Combine Intel Draft it was Shadour. Why well,
because two years ago ten million people Washington play at

(19:16):
ten o'clock at night in society knows who he is.
I mean this in the highest compliment. He is like
a Kardashian when it comes to the fame part of it,
massive following on social kids love him, love the content,
all of it. It's every single one of those boxes
were when you draft him number two overall, number four overall,
fifth round, you're drafting all that encompasses that, and that's

(19:39):
what leads to it. So he was the story leading
up to the then he was a story for three
straight days on the draft, So it's all part of it. So, yeah,
you knew that's the way that was going to go.
He is a celebrity quarterback in the way that Johnny
was beforehand. Bake to a certain degree was not to
this level, though I think Johnny's probably closest. Johnny's probably close.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah. The other thing though about Bake was Bake.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Didn't get to start his preseason debut, So that's the
other thing about this. You knew he was starting, yep,
so that allowed for kind of the build up every
other rookie when they get a chance to play as
a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mentioned this yesterday, like Brady quin didn't play until
the fourth quarter of his first preseason game. Like if
everybody knew he was starting and playing on that night,
would it have been different?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Probably?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I think the SAME's prebaby true with Baker and Johnny,
Like if it was like, oh, yeah, they're starting the
preseason game, you knew it. So it was like the
perfect storm in every possible way, not just the way
that he played, but the lead up, the build up,
all of it. It led to all these things coming
together at once.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
I mean Nike made kind of an ad with it. Yeah,
in the middle of the first preseason game of the year.
Yeah with Shador, Yeah, it's on another level. And you
know what you are right, nobody could expect a different outcome.
And I think that if what I want more than
anything is for there to be a point in which

(21:00):
which there are only reasons why he has to play,
and that he's got to keep progressing and keep putting
in the work and keep the diligence and keep the
professionalism and understand that process and everything it takes to
be an NFL quarterback that it has to be your
lifestyle day in, day out, minute and minute out. And
I know he's on his way and he's working in
progressing on that. But if he can do that, there

(21:21):
will be no reason why you would say he shouldn't play,
and then we can see what happens. Yeah, but I
do think again, it's one preseason game against the twos
and threes of the Carolina Panthers, who were not that impressive.
There were some real good things on tape, real good
that were exactly what you thought he would be. We
need to see that keep going. I'm curious to see
him in this environment against Philly. It just feels to

(21:43):
me like after seeing that, he's just gonna be somebody
that's gonna rise to the occasion.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Like this is what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
It just he's so comfortable in who he is that
he walks right up to Miles on the sideline and starts,
you know what I mean, Like that's just how sure
he is of himself. Yeah, that's the way he can
carries himself and then they have the back and forth and.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
The rest of it works. So yeah, yeah, it's it's
gonna be a fun week. It's gonna be a fun
week without of the d He's just sure, Sanders, that's true.
That's true. A couple other things.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
The Browns have signed defensive end Titus Leo and waved
wide receiver Chase Coda. Leo six three, two fifty officially
in the second NFL season out of Wagner. Originally drafted
by Indian the sixth round in twenty twenty three. He
appeared in four career games with the Patriots. Leo will
wear number ninety eight here. A couple other things, just
letting you know what's happening this week. Today is a
travel day, so the fellas will leave this afternoon and

(22:35):
then Wednesday ten am Joint practice number one over in Philly. Thursday,
joint practice number two over in Philly. There will be
a walk through on Friday, and then preseason game number
two at one o'clock in Philly. Weather hot over there,
I'm guessing for you boys, got.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
A very hot nineties humidity, could be some crazy rain.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
The Casa de Gibbs will be the home base for
the radio studio, not outside under a ten by ten
tent like the Eagles had given us.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
No Well, thank you. I don't think we will do that.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
No, we won't do that. The girl keep saying it's
going to rain. It's not going to rain. Not practice.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't know. There's only what way to know, and
that's to go to the ACA. So here's what Achi
Weather says. Oh you're back.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
He was here all the way down. I'm all, dude,
once it it was it was week who knows it was.
This is all I do out give. I mean, if
it says to me Thursday the fourteenth eighty percent chance
of rain and Wednesday the thirteen fifty five percent chance,
I'm just it just says intervals of cloud and sun
with a thunderstorm in parts of the area on Thursday,
eighty percent chance of rain.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Me, I need you have to go hourly now.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
By the way, doing hourly today, maybe you'll give us
some insight into Wednesday. But do this stuff changes.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, you probably can do that twenty four hours out
that's fine, maybe thirty six.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
But to what time's practice tomorrow? Everything's at ten am,
all right? So ten and noon tomorrow on Wednesday, We're good,
rain's coming in the in the afternoon.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It appears on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, Now Thursday it looks like we could get or
at fifty chance at nine am. Gibbe, Yeah, you got
a little potential for thunderstorm on Thursday perfect at that time.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Did you guys that's changed this morning?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Cause you guys, you guys are Oh you're just on
You're not on this app.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Gibbe got eet on the right app. Get the right phone,
right app. Everything's gonna change an iPhone.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Halff called you out. He said, you need an iPhone.
You're ruining the group chat. I'm a Hall of Fame
Android userhuff.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Haff haf is demanding change pipe.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
If you guys ever, did the fans giver you give
you guys his Philly cheese steak to get?

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
He has on the pizza place.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Yeah, I was gonna say the pizza joint.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
He gave you the pizza joint and the and the
Philly cheese. Did you have the Philly cheese steak there?

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yes, because they gave it to us after our game
last year.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I think they were Was it with Wiz or was
it what was the cheese choice?

Speaker 6 (25:00):
I think it was without.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
To me, it can't be Whiz. Let's know.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I think Wiz is what separates Philly from the rest right,
it feels like you had a Philly cheese seake. Anywhere
that it comes the first Philly prove alone. But then
over there it feels like it's with.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
The first Philly cheese seake I ever fell in love with?
Was it Emery? In our dorm we were like on
the outskirts of Emery. Who gets hurt at two am?
We're on the outskirts. But we had our own cheese
steak I ever had? Was it no that I fell
in love with?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
That you fell in love with?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm sorry, that's right.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Before that I was strictly a French dip man.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
If I was going, I was French. Well, I still
do to French. Great back again, Yeah, Juice softens it
so it doesn't cut.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
French dip do not get, does not get the attention
it deserves that it got when we were children. When
we were kids, that was the king of That was
the King of Sanich. Well, yeah as well, I don't
know what happened to the Kingdom meets. It's not even
offered amore even.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Handle the prime rib and they don't even know how
to make it. That's the only knock. By the way,
Jerry West Steakhouse at at the Greenbrier. Only knock on,
they don't know what to do an ozu. They have
like a gelatinous.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's right, I remember that. Strange, Yeah, very strange. Yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Give me anyway. So we had the termin deli was
our own little spot. We were away on the outskirts,
so we were kind of like a rogue nation, which
was great for us because we did I think if
we were in a more public setting, No, none of
us would have graduated from.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Behind the gates is what I want.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
That's where we wanted to be. But we had our
own deli. We were the only dorm that had its
own deli. And Elijah made this cheese steak unbelievable but
so provolone. Yes, and I'm not much of cheesey. I'm
just a little bit of provolone, very nice. And then
every now and then he'd throw he'd go by, am,
it's a little bit of marinaire And it was like, oh,
he said, cheese seak.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Wow, So that's not a cheese that's a sandwich. That
sounds like a delight something hot pepper.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Sometimes it seems.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
More like what Tony would get at Satriali's is what
that sounds like a little pepper and uh.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
It started with a cheese steak. It ended in a
very legendary Yeah that sounds pretty good though. Well it was.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, that to look forward to.
And you guys said your great meal there? Did you
have a meal with half there? That was like an
all time mealing.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
It was like a baby pig delivered to us.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
And who is, oh the biggest, one of the biggest els.
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, so that'll be fun exciting.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
They did bring like a whole animal.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Yeah that was That was entree number six. And the
big l looked and I looked at him, and we're like,
we're not competing with these two.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, this is you're prolific. You're out of your depth.
Out of your depth is prolific. But the hoff half stability,
it's a Hall of fame level.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm more just like you looking all a sudden, my
plate's empty. He's just he's it's a machine.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
It's never a pace that just never, but he is.
He is to my eating style with liquid so beers
just evaporate. He'll order, in fact, he'll order two or
three at a time. If it's like if he's drinking
just a light beer because they can't keep them fast.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Enough, he'll know after the first round he's like, Okay,
I'm gonna have to order two or I'm gonna have
to order three because the service is not he.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Can make a bottle of lion disappeared like a glass drink.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Ye, it's impressive. What did he speaking of bag yets?
Didn't he get something on the plane when we got
on the.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Plane was.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
A really good barbecue. Yeah, there was a good barbecue
place that he was actually excited to try. That was
our postgame meal. So Kelsey shot out, great job. Then
Noble smoke, Yeah, Noble is very good.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And so then he's like, well, what's on the you
know what's on the plane?

Speaker 5 (28:53):
Yeah, I'm like, well usually there's like red rob and
and you know, they'll be the met whatever's on the
menu or whatever the all things.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And he box and he's like, ah.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
He had brisket on the bus, and I'm not sure
if I'm gonna be that hungry. And he gets in
and it's like a hamburger but it says brioche.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
But he's like boche.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
He's like, I gotta have this because it's kind of
so he takes a burger and then and then, thinking
we're not looking, he also grabbed a twelve pack of wings.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
I'm sitting right next to you, buddy.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
By the way, the the holf is listen and this
tells you, like you look at adnnis great shape, the hollow,
first ballot, Hall of Famer, all of it. He give it,
you said with him. By the way, I'm kind of
hoping maybe I get to sit.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
With you on this trip. I was.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
I was blessed.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
It was in the VIP shock with the hof exit row.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
It's appropriate.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Yeah, I'm hoping, no hop maybe I can get.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It slide into that exit row.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Baby, yeah, real nice big drink of water, big drink
of water.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
So half has to travel with a great many contraptions.
He's got round his neck, which is pretty standard.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Then he has this.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
He sits there and he inflates the thing that his
arm can rest on because of his elves and stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Then he then he have one other fut I thought
there were three things. I thought it was. It was
a fifteen minute. He's the only person that I think
that can go on this one. Yeah, on this wall
and that conference name it would be you know what.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
I would do.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
I mean, let's just spit ball it here.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I would do almost like a franchise Mount Rushmore Colage. Yeah,
so give me Jim Brown, give me Auto, give me Bernie,
give me Joe.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Right there, there's a bunch more. You could choose Froim
too planic.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
But but yeah that you guys put those guys up
there and then yeah, and and do it like in
a maybe in a black and white with orange popping
the way they did that.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah, yeah, I like it. I don't know, yeah that
that that would be a good I think there's merit
to your thought. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I like that you're not expecting much, which is there's
thirty one minutes for you. There you go, kids, You
no doubt have seen by now, the uh that Miles
was cited for speeding early Saturday morning going one hundred
and sixty on Ice seventy one near Strongsville.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's somebody who's lived here and in Atlanta. You don't
hear about these stories with Atlanta athletes, Is that true?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, it's like an ASCAR down there.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying, like a part of it.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Yeah, here, you can't speed on seventy one.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
No, you cannot, you know you cannot. And it's wild.
I mean just this wouldn't impact miles because it's one hundred.
But it always is stupefying to me when I see
sixty there and I just think, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Like, what are we doing? It is three lanes, let's
go move it along.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Everything should be uh, this is my opinion, you mean, yeah,
you might say I'm wrong. I think everything should be
a seventy nine, but hard like that it eighty not okay,
not not. Here's the speed limit and you can go
six to nine over depending on.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
My hard cab. It was a hard deck.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Speed limit is seventy nine miles an hour.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Hard the end?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, over it by even a minute. Eighty one yep,
one to the side. I don't have a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Seventy nine. Yep.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Everybody, These cars all can operate at seventy nine and comfortably.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, you don't even notice you're going that fast. Now,
cars are so smooth.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Seventy nine hard cap, So throw your crews at seventy nine.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
You're good. Yep. We're all moving, we're getting places fast,
getting there safe. Yep, eighty No, I love that, that's it.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
I love the A real speed lim this is the
speed limit.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
It is seventy eighth. Then it's nebulous, right, I hate it.
I hate that you get pulled over going seven over
like I did. I took business.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
I know that's outrageous, that's egregious. But that's why seventy
nine and that's it.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, I got it was seventy nine just just south
of Mount Gilead, and.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
You can maybe drop it into a seventy seven rather
seventy seven. You can maybe drop it to sixty nine
situation in around cities like when you're in you know
those type of things.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, and this is you know seven about seventy.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
When at what point does seventy one go to go
to seventy go to seventy at seven point? Yeah, where
does it go to seventy? It is that like south
of like like around the water Dina, Like when does it.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Get to that? Yeah? Yeah, because it's sixty.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Yes, just outside of Medna. That's when you can finally
part of that. It's sixty five at least it's.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Sixty like that whole Brexville. Seventy seven is all sixty
drives me nuts.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
When I drive down in Laws on seventy. You got keV.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
It's it's usually seventy just outside of downtown Canton.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
That's when it kind of turns for us. So you're right.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I go down there for you sports all the time.
You're right, it's just south of That's exactly where it is.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
That's too far. It's way too far and a half away. Yeah,
before you get to seventy. Now, seventy seven. Seventy seven
is still like two lanes in each direction.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I haven't been on it.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm pretty sure I catch it off of eight on
the other side of Akron, so I don't catch it there.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, I don't know, but like.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
It's three lanes through here either way. One hundred a
little too fast. Needless to say, those are your hot
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We will be at joint practices with the defending Super
Bowl champions the next two days. Gibbey and his cavalcade
of minions back there. I want to know the top
five things you are looking for in joint practices.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
I don't know. I just got bad news, Gibbe. Did
you just get the tax?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Why?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
What happened. What happened?

Speaker 5 (36:04):
Did you get your seat text? Oh no, yeah, thirty nine. Yeah,
I didn't move up?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Who they move up.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Out?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
You're still in the back and yeah, so Gibb's thirty
nine is exit row.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
The Sarah McLaughlin And where are you, like sixty right
behind him? Right behind him?

Speaker 9 (36:24):
Do you have to watch him?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, recline and come.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
I want you to know, for I never recline.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
That's a good job.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
I don't recline. I don't believe in recline.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I don't think you can less everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Well, hold on a second, I'm not going to say
that you can absolutely recline if this was a red eye,
and you can absolutely recline on any flight over a
certain amount of time. Yeah, like any sort of red eye,
you fly to Hawaii, you fly across the country, recline
your heart out.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
That's fine. But this is what an hour?

Speaker 6 (36:52):
It's an hour and change.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this one.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
This is a dirt you can process.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I did basically did twice this summer. I did it
twice to this area, not quite all the way to Philly.
We were in the Maryland side. But yeah, there's a
different level of humidity over there, all right? Top five
things that you're looking for when we do joint practices
against the Philadelphia Eagles, the Super Bowl champions, who, by
the way, doing uh in my morning activities, taking a

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look kind of around the NFL, hitting every team over
the next couple of days, and we did Philly today
on that show, and with Dickerson now coming back, this
is without question, and honestly, I don't know it's particularly close.
Some most talented roster in football, top to bottom. There's nothing.
There's not a hole, there's nothing where you look at, well,
here's a weakness. There isn't a weakness. They're protected even

(37:47):
from injury in a lot of spots because of the depth.
It's just they're super Bowl champions for a reason. It's very,
very difficult to repeat. But their roster is a thing
to behold, my friend.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, they won't have Dickerson until he'll be ready for
the season, right, won't. He won't be there this week.
The number one thing that I'm looking for is, I
think it's obvious does Kenny Pickett participate in team drills?
And if the answer to that is no, and the
one reps are I'm not gonna say exclusively predominantly Joe Flacco.

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I think that tells you what we've been telling you
since last week.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, if Kenny doesn't, If Kenny can't go in eleven
on eleven, then this week, then that's then that's there's
no reason to keep this going.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Like right, Joe, let's get ready and then everybody get
on board in the same direction. Number two, sticking in
that quarterback room. Does Shaedoor get any one reps? Does
he get any or is it going to be all
Flacco or is it gonna be Flacco with a little

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bit of Gabriel sprinkle sprinkled in, or is it gonna
be Flack out a little bit of Gabriel and a
little bit of Shador.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
If Kenny can't go, how many of the like one
reps against Philly the next two days do you think,
and I'm asking you to get into a coach's head,
someone hold you to this, how many would Kevin want
Joe to get if Kenny can't go in eleven on eleven.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
So let's say, let's just use a number. I don't
know what the answer is, but say it's fifty. I
wasna say say it's fifty over the course of two days. Okay, yeah,
I would think he would at least want him to
get thirty three to thirty five, so two thirds to
seventy percent, Yeah, because it could be assig as eighty percent. Yeah,

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now if there was let's say he did thirty five,
I would have I would I would love to see
or do thirty four for Flacco and do eight for
Gabriel four each day and an eight for Shador for
each day.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, That's what I'll be attention to, is especially if
Kenny can't do the elevens, like how much does Joe
Joe get the most or you can thirty whatever that
looks like, what's that split look like down the road?
Because what you know, we've been talking for last few
days about it's it's getting late quick and it's also

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you're running out of reps. Yeah, you really are like
the most valuable reps for this team in terms of
where we are. Position battles, who can play who can't
are going to be tomorrow and Thursday in Philly.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Oh yeah, So number three is just kind of more overall,
like how do we match their physicality and can we.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Hang It's trench's trenches trenches.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Can we hang can we bus them? Can we have
the most talent it's the most talented fronts. Can we
can we protect Joe? Can we protect whoever the quarterback
is from their rush? And then can we on the
other side the trench warfare battle?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
We can get there? I think we can too.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think our defensive line, the invest in our defensive line,
we ought to be a top five defensive line in football.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh yeah, for sure, and I think we are. And
I think the depth is there.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
We don't have my call yet, so eventually he's gonna
come back and add to it, like him and Graham
in the middle is gonna be nuts and Miles on
the outside. So can our defensive line reek havoc on
Jalen Hurts? And then can we protect against their d
line which is quite formidable?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
All right? Number four?

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I am becoming concerned about our cornerback then or lack thereof.
You know, hopefully we can see Denzel and Greg out there,
but like to me, we need to figure out who
that third guy is and if he's here, and if
he's not here, how do we get the person that
needs to be here here?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Did because we were pretty confident that cam Mitchell could
handle that. It did it not go that well.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
And I don't think I didn't think he had a
great game in Charlotte. I don't think it news he
had a great game and Charlotte. And I certainly don't
think that Miles Harden had a good game. Now, the
guy that did have a good game in Charlotte was
Nick need Him. Now that was a lot further into
the game. But Nick need Him is a guy that's
played in sixty three games with twenty seven starts. Now,

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he hasn't started since twenty twenty two, but his first
three years in the league, you had two picks each
of those three years. So he's a veteran. He's done it.
I don't know, he looked good. I don't know if
that's the answer answer. You know, he hasn't been any
somebody's answer as a starter and quite some time. That's
what I'm saying, Like, I'm just that I'm concerned about

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that position. This is a team that can throw the
football and has very, very talented receivers, and so I'm
curious to see how we we match up with that.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Well, we live, We're gonna have to live in a
division and a cross division matchup this season. That is
not kind to people who don't have people who can
hold up on the perimeter.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
No, now, the good news is we've got Denzel is
elite and I would say the Steelers have one elite
receiver in DK Metcalf.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
The Bengals obviously have two.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
But if we have Greg and Denzel out there, now
that the problem with them is in the past. You know,
MJ was a pretty darn good matchup with t Higgins
because of his size, so we don't have that anymore.
And then the Ravens have Zay Flowers. Now, Bateman played
well last year, but they're gonna be more run the
tight ends. But we need that Nickel and that Nichol's

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got to be not only good in the past game,
that Nichol's got to be good in our run game.
That is something that I think is very important. And
you know that's not something that we have seen, you know,
so far. That's where we've got to see. That's where
cam Mitchell would they really have to step up. Yeah,
they both graded. Cam Mitchell on his twenty three snaps

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got a fifty one grade. Chickanoosium got a forty six
point one. They were players twenty three and twenty seven
out of thirty. For the Browns, Nick Needham was number three.
Tony Brown had a very good game. That's not something
we've seen from him historically to play corner that level.
But the Apex looked pretty darn good out there. And
then I thought Dom Jones number thirty seven, had some

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pretty good snaps out there, and that'll be interesting to see.
You know, maybe he's an undrafted guy that can surprise
and do some things, but I thought he did pretty good.
He had a nice PBu and was around the ball,
so that was good to see.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well, and your Newsome and Denzel both have missed time
in their careers, so there's that's what I mean part
of it too, like the depth has to really be
there without without mj who is always such a constant,
uh number five.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
So I've been feeling really good about this one, but yeah,
didn't get the come away from the preseason opener feeling
quite as good. And that's Dustin Hopkins missed one extra point,
kind of looked like he missed two. Yeah, I just
think again, we're going to be good defense, good run game.

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We're gonna have to take advantage of.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
All of it.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like, we're gonna we're gonna
have to be special on special teams. Here we went
to the playoffs, it was Flacco and it was Dustin
Hopkins hitting big field goals that won us a great
number of games.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah, that's the recipe, brother. Yeah, it's gonna be a
big week over there, for sure. We'll go around the league.
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coach Pedro's best friend Kyle Shanahan said that wide receiver

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Brandon Ayuk is on track to return around week six
after the ACL injury he suffered last year. So an
update there from Niners camp. Bill's running back James Cook
will return to practice today. He's in the midst seeking
a new contract there. Did you see the comments from
Cam Hayward. By the way, in Pittsburgh, we just redid
a two year deal last year for two years twenty nine.

(46:39):
The guarantees on that are up. He wants to be
paid what he's worth. He's thirty six years old.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
He said.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
If I'd been a jacket, I'm gonna come back and renegotiating.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And he was an old pro.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It's just weird, like they're all in as possibly as
can be with Rogers one year, all of it.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Let them pay him, Just pay him and move along,
Like why do this?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
It just seems like a waste. I'm glad they are,
but it just seems stupid. Packers quarterback Jordan Love undergoing
a procedure today on a ligament issue in his left thumb.
He suffered the injury in Green Bay's preseason opener. The
team expects him to.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Be ready for Week one.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
On that couple of media business News, ESPN's extended Lisa
Sulters elevated Laura Rutledge to sideline roles, both added and
added both Katie George and Peter Schreger to its game coverage,
result in two sideline reporters for all NFL games on
e s P n Psalters and Rutledge will be with
Buck and Aikman, and then Schreger and George will be with.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Is it Fowler.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Fowler or Lavsky and Lewis Ridick on the second team.
There's five games they're calling.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
That second team is calling five games.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
This year, so they only five double Mondays either that
or yeah, or maybe the Saturdays interest they still have
that Saturday window.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Is kind of the way that that goes.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So yeah, there you go. Lots happening around the league,
big Week two for a lot of teams. This hold
in thing is something that's very real. We mentioned it
with Cam Heyward, mentioned it with James Cook. There's no
hold in that's happening in Dallas, but that's still happening
there with Michaeh. Parsons, as he's he continues to sit
out there. Trey Hendrickson still continues to sit out in
Cincinnati as.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Well, getting late early. Let's go. Yeah, we'll be here
before we know it.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Yes on all of this, Yes, yeah, Trey Hendrickson, I'd
like you to sit out. The best way to get
your ridge is for you to sit out week one
and we beat you.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Flacco spins it all over the place, and we win.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
And we win, and then there's man and he gets
to stand there like a statue.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
They can gibeingtroll. What the heck was how? I just
had something on that.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Oh it was Emmitt Smith who they did that years
ago when when he sat out at the beginning and
they lost a couple of games and the next thing, you know,
Jerry said, okay, fine, let's go. Let's get you paid up.
That was that was though, back when they were true
Super Bowl contenders, which that operation is not.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Now.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
All right, there you go away real quick, some real quick.
Some news from Adam Schefter that Odell Beckham Junior is
retiring from the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well, should we take a break and then reflect on that,
because obviously we have time with him. Yeah, Well, we'll
take a quick time out and reflect the news of
the retirement of Odell Beckham Junior, among other things, in
the second hour of the program. Here you listen to
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Speaker 3 (50:20):
We were duped.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
We're duped, but so is a lot of people because
Odell just treated juice Odell from Adam Scheffler.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I know, but where did you see it? Retweeted who
retweeted on Twitter?

Speaker 5 (50:28):
It just looked like it was Adam schefter But I didn't.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Right but someone must have retweeted because you don't follow
that person.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I follow that.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
I'm sure just ended up on my I'm sure so
got like going to four years Dangerous World, the Dangerous Place.
But the actual Odell Beckham verified has said I am
not done yet.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Thanks for your concerns. Have a blast day. Well he
might be. He has not done of his own volition yet.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
He had nine catches for fifty five yards six yards
of catch in last season.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
It's not currently on a roster.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
It's one of those things that when as a professional athlete,
the end sometimes can be a cliff. Sometimes it can be,
you know, a slow descent, just slowly slightly getting worse off,
and then sometimes it's just bang and it happens. His
a lot tied to injuries with him, for sure, I'll

(51:21):
never I when we acquired him.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
It is Panemoniy.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
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Speaker 6 (51:30):
You like, give me set it.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Up from here. We were on our phones at home.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
By remember sitting on the floor by my house, by
my fireplace.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, we were like right where I was on phones
were recorded it like fifteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Joe Thomas was on NFL Network guest hosting when it broke.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, and we did it. But yeah, at that time,
I remember we had so much fun with it because
we were teasing Dors like, hey, when it comes time
with the first pick in the draft, the Cleveland Brown
select Odell Beckham junior.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Like that was kind of the thing we were all doing.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
Do you remember, like a month not even a month,
a few weeks earlier at the Combine, Dorsey like called
out the GM of the Giants is like, I'm available.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Well, if you remember they were sitting together, they got
caught on the camera together.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
He got caught on the camera. Yeah, that was at
after the That was at the combine. But was that
after they had their media sessions? Maybe because the media
session is when Doris was so fun with that. I'm here,
I'm here phones on. What struck me when we got
him was I was I was surprised at his size

(52:36):
For some reason in my head, I thought he was
like six to one something like that. But he was
a relatively small guy. He was about the same was
he was Jarvis bigger? Was he bigger than they were?

Speaker 3 (52:46):
About the same, right, I would say about the same. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
The thing that I remember, so I'll give you just
what they're listed at. Odell is listed as being.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Of course or internet's very slow right now.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
What I remember surprised me the most about that time
is how hurt he was that he had traded by
the Giants. Yes, he was like wounded.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean he was on the way to
being an iconic giant. He had he was a rocket
ship out of the gates. The he catch on Monday
Night as an all timer.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Five eleven, two hundred yeah, and Jarvis five eleven one ninety.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Six, so similar mirrors. Yeah, yeah, Jarvis, five time Pro bowler.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Jarvis was Jervis's jersey is in the Pro Football Hall
of Fames. He had that he was the fastest almost
every year, fastest through two years, through three years through
four and then I think Michael Thomas blew him up
a little bit because Michael Thomas had that one hundred
and fifty catch one hundred and forty some catch season
with New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I'm not sure if he still has those records or not,
but I think that.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
For four so yeah, he would have blown in my
wife for four years. Yeah, but then he only forty
and fifty earth that seventy. He heard his ankle and
then was gone.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, completely gone, jeez. It's what's crazy about this game.
It comes and goes so quickly.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
And we were just I mean, we've talked about this
before because we're you know, you were talking about the
corner position. And one of the things we were surprised
in the draft was that we didn't take a wide
receiver in the draft. We were curious, like, where's that
going to come, was it going to come, and would
it be a free agent signing, Like what would that
look like? And we were talking about the receivers who
were unsigned. You think about Amari, and you think about

(54:32):
the last time Joe was here, the stretch of games
that Amari Cooper had, including the greatest receiving game in
the history of the Cleveland Browns, like all of that happened,
and then it was the next year and it was different.
And right now Amari's not on a roster, which is impossible. Like,
you go back a year ago, and if I were
to tell you one year from now, Amari will not

(54:52):
be on an NFL roster coming off of that season,
no chance.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
It's wild.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
I mean, that season, seventy two catches, twelve hundred and
fifty yards career high, seventeen point four yards a catch
career high, and then the following year again were just
twelve point four yards of catch five hundred and forty
seven yards. He goes from averaging eighty three yards a
game to thirty nine, which is the lowest of his career.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
It's just stupefying really.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So he's the same age as Odell. They're both thirty one,
thirty one, thirty two, right in that age. Same thing
happened with Jarvis, though, Like I wouldn't have thought that
when Jarvis left here that that would be the end.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Of his meaningful football. That was it, and that was it.
He to New Orleans and I think he played it
and then that.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Was like nine games, had twenty five catches for two
hundred and seventy two yards in touchdown and that was it.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
And I haven't heard from Jarvis or seen anything from
Jarvis in a while.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
No.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
I loved him here, Oh so great.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
Yeah, he's probably just enjoying life. These guys made, yeah,
a great deal of money. Hey and Odell were brothers,
you know, great friends, and probably just in Louisiana loving life,
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, it's just it's it's the mortality of this business.
Quickly things change. Sometimes in one off season you can
go from being that level to all of a sudden
there's a little less in the take. And the honest
reality is that a little less at this level is
everything everything. It's all the margins. They're so slim. All right,
you are heading You're heading to Philly tonight. And then

(56:19):
we'll have those two joint practices in terms of do
we do we have a sense of this week. You're
gonna get most of the good work on Wednesday Thursday.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
That'll be all the starters and then the backups.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
And will Philly play the same way they'll they'll play
that same way. There's yeah, these two operations are pretty
like and they're like minded in their in their ways.
On that, I'm looking forward to getting your impression. I
think I think tomorrow's show is going to be fascinating.
We have a lot more on this show, of course,
but I think tomorrow's show is going to be interesting
because what you reveal based on what you see starting
at ten o'clock tomorrow, can we hold up? Because if

(56:51):
you think about what we want to be and you
just kind of outlined it in terms of defensive team,
run the ball, protect the ball, make our field goals,
win the special team game, all of that. That's our
roadmap for success. That all starts up front. You had it,
I think three on your list of five things look
forward to. But in order for that to happen, that
you've got to.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Hold up on those two lines of scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Yeah, and this is the measuring stick, and I think
that we are right there. So this is an opportunity
to go out and prove that, to prove that our
offensive line can hold up against their very very good front,
and that our d line can get the better of
you know, a complete line. Now they won't have Dickerson,
but yeah, this is this is big. It's a big
if this team is going to be a team that

(57:34):
wins a lot more games than I would say most
people think. If this team's going to be a team
that you know, is frisky and in the wild card picture,
it's going to be because of our physicality and our ability,
you know, in those situations to execute at a high
level and take care of the football, but to be
able to match you know, some of the elite in
the trenches because that's really that's the only thing right

(57:56):
now you can hang your hat on. Where should we?
Where are we our best in the trend?

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Is the answer? Yes. So that's especially with the loss
to MJ I mean yeah for sure.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
And our quartern back room went from being feeling really
good about it not.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
It's very thin there, very thin.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
And I think you know the other thing that I'll
be very curious about is what is our approach offensively?
As of right now? Quinshawn Judkins isn't on this team.
He is the hammer in this running back room. Jerome
Ford can be that too, but he doesn't quite have
the physicality that quin Shawn does. So if that, if
you don't have quinchon this week in Philly, and there's
no reason to believe that you will. He's not here now.

(58:35):
But whenever that happens up until that point, how are
we going about our business offensively? So that's something where
Harold Fannon, what is his role in this offense with
chief creating mismatches on the various levels for Joe Flacco
if it is him primarily this week, what does that
look like and those type of things, Well, the receiver

(58:55):
opposite Jerry Judy step up this week? Is there something
that shines there? Those are things you're going to be
watching for the next couple of days.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah, that's everything that we're going to be watching for.
There's a lot to see. You know, can Deontay Johnson
solidify his spot? This will be a very good test
for him going against the Eagles secondary, which is very good.
You know, how many are we going to carry on
the offensive line?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
You have to do that this week.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Kind of where you see the fifty three is maybe
on Friday we do that before that second preseason game.
Kind of go through the list of how you see
the fifty three as it stands, because we've been saying
four quarterbacks, four quarterbacks, four quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Like I'm seeing some I think you're going to but
I'm going to see I've seen some fifty threes that
have us going twenty six on offense and twenty four
on d Like, it's just not I just don't think
that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
No one knows this more than you in terms of
how the makeup of these rosters to typically go. You
maybe this on one or two a year, not much so. Yeah,
I mean that would be very different than what we
typically do.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Well, we we have to We're gonna have ten on
the D line. Yeah, because that's just the way that
they're gonna roll with it. There's it's going to be interesting,
but that's something you know, we can go through as
this week goes on, and I'll get a better idea
as we look at these things as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
All right, very good safe travels out of you, guys,
and thank you and look forward to those tomorrow and
seeing what's what's happening with those big joint practices. Jerry
Judy gonna be one of the stars on this football team.
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Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Here is Jerry Judy at the podium.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
You look ahead to these enjoint practices with the Meagles.
What do you hope to get a tale against such
a good team?

Speaker 10 (01:01:34):
Uh, you know, it's always great to be able to
compete against other teams other than ourselves, you know. So
you know, I'm more excited that's going out there making play.
It's a q ill play and do what we're supposed
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
How do you think the offense is grown?

Speaker 10 (01:01:46):
Obviously we've seen Joe really what the legion at starting even,
but how do you think the whole office is wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
From your birthday came to that.

Speaker 10 (01:01:52):
I think we've grown a lout, you know, a lot
on people, a lot more confident within within a playbook,
you know. So once you know the playbook down, it's
all about you know, execut and I feel like everybody
been doing a great job with that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
And how is this offense different from from last year and.

Speaker 11 (01:02:04):
Just half here.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Uh ain't uh too much different, you.

Speaker 10 (01:02:07):
Know, uh uh coach just add a little little his
tweets and them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Nothing none changed for her.

Speaker 12 (01:02:13):
I know in the spring when we asked you about
that Amari quote with him saying that when Joe throws
the ball it's like poetry emotion. Yeah, bread really quickly,
I guess how have you roam and even more to
to like the way he throws the ball and in
the chemistry that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:26):
You guys out you know, just having this consincity throughout
camp and many camp to be able to work with him,
you know, just understanding, uh, understanding each other a lot better,
you know, knowing where where he wanted me to be
at a certain times and knowing how he liked throwing
certain certain football So you know, uh it been it
been going well.

Speaker 13 (01:02:42):
Holdous, that's your connection with Joe improved just over the
last couple of weeks since he seemed to You've got
a lot more consistent reps with him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Yeah, it been growing.

Speaker 10 (01:02:52):
You know, we s we been working out coming out here,
working each and every day. You know, the rests will matters.
You know, we've been having consistent reps and you know,
just taking advantage of that to be a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Of completions today and thumbs downs and these drills and
do you think, uh, the four quarterback companies shar you guys,
is Cooper coming and rowing?

Speaker 11 (01:03:10):
Is a what is a unit?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:03:12):
I think you know a at the union as a
receiver group, we can't really t too much focus on
the quarterback competition, but just focus on our job, our
execution and making a job for easier easier for which
other quarterbacks in the backfield.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
So you know, we just do what we're supposed to
do and that's good. Open did you what are those
one on one bat those with?

Speaker 14 (01:03:29):
Then tel like and then it looks like you got
him in the end zone that after they heard that that,
I but what's it Lake going against.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
The road now?

Speaker 10 (01:03:36):
You know then they're the top corner in the league.
So it's always fun to go against him. You know,
he makes me better, I make him better. You know
that's all you could ask for. Come down here and
practices and every day against each other, just to make
sure Sundays are easier, cause they ain't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Nobody gonna be like in jail on Sunday.

Speaker 13 (01:03:49):
So you know, you got a lot of prognosticators think
the Browns are not gonna be very good this year.
The over runner is five and a half games. What
makes you think be better.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
Than you make that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:04:02):
I know the group of guys we got on his team,
and I know the coaching staff been doing a a
a great job and just making sure everybody in the
right position to make plays.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
And I just feel like that's that's all we could
think of it. I know the group of guys we got,
you know, and we.

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
Can't really focus on what too much to out of
the people that that's not in the building thing, you know,
so I ain't read it too much word about that
cause someone.

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
Like can you talk about how what did you think
she doors performance Sailior United? And how old have you
seen him to come on r outice?

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Nah, she did it.

Speaker 10 (01:04:31):
He did a great job the other night, you know,
seeing completion, moving d moving the bar down, the fields,
going touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
You know that all you could ask for for a quarterback.
You know. He he constantly growing each.

Speaker 10 (01:04:41):
And every day, learning the learning the offense, learning the scheme,
you know, and I'm excited for him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
He got a bright feature hit of 'em.

Speaker 9 (01:04:47):
Okay, someone do work a lot with Aloria.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
How disappointing is it to to see him and have
his see him.

Speaker 10 (01:04:52):
Tring or you kind of stay Yeah, that's such man.
Luke been out here grinding and doing his thing every
since he step foot on stepped foot on out here,
so you know it kind of frustrating, you know, hit
him dealing with that. But you know, lu loose a bottle,
so he gonna attack his workout, make sure he come
back healthy and do his thing.

Speaker 9 (01:05:09):
So have you seen have you I played catch? Should
you work very much at all? And are you looking
forward to maybe getting seen ups with them at some point?
And if so? You know he talks about throwing like
you catching a ball. The ways he jump into right,
uh make you caught and passes from them? Is it
super catchab all?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:05:27):
Yeah, you man, we we you throw the ball a
little bit around for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
You know, he got a great arm.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
You know, I could see it out there even with
catching with him throwing him throwing it to the other guys.
You know, he he's a bottler, he he definitely got
one of uh one of the top arms for sure.

Speaker 8 (01:05:40):
Cherry, how do you see just y'ad to you get
a little more compostince he's been here.

Speaker 9 (01:05:44):
I'm just trying to sort of have a bounce back,
Sea said, or the last year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
So how is he gonna just grow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Since he's he's been her sing the trick?

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Uh h?

Speaker 10 (01:05:51):
He growing a lot, you know, understanding the playbook, you know,
just having consistency out here with the guys, you know,
and just getting more comfortable and the learner of the
scheme of things. So you know, he been doing a
great job of that, you know, and he constantly working
to work towards that to be better than he was
the day before. So you know, that's that's all he
could ask for au all he could do.

Speaker 9 (01:06:10):
You sure you need? How important games for you guys?
To you what kind of mean? You know, after the
stilly trailer, you know your starting parts and so you
can really rep it yet ready.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
For that season part?

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Uh y?

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
You know, I I'm really ain't focused too much on that.
You know, we just fo focus on this Philly trip
right now, you know. Then we'll let the coaches make
the decision after that and you know we just go
on from there.

Speaker 14 (01:06:33):
How do you guys like Luke can engage like, how
do you help them make this transition be.

Speaker 10 (01:06:38):
In the those guys. You know, those guys are very talented,
very smart guys that know how to get open, know
how to know what the offense and what the coaches
want in the s in the scheme, you know. So
they don't really don't really learn need to learn too
much cause they already know what they need to know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
I just I D whatever they ask me what they
need help on.

Speaker 10 (01:06:57):
I just you know, relate a message and hostly they
they they get it from there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Jerry, what what areas have you seen doing and.

Speaker 12 (01:07:04):
What you doing during the camp?

Speaker 10 (01:07:06):
Uh? Just understanding the playbook, you know, knowing knowing all
the moving parts uh motion shifts and and and knowing
where to go with the ball, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
So that's that's all the quarterback can be for real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
At the GAM I'm saying is that the defense usually
starts to head up the alto when mater happens, when.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
The defense gets in early jump on the offense during
your training camp.

Speaker 10 (01:07:28):
Is that again the the old saying is that the
defense is usually ahead of the offense.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
That it started the training camp.

Speaker 13 (01:07:33):
Yeah, why does.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Why does the offense take a little longer in jail.

Speaker 10 (01:07:35):
That way, I feel the offense, you know it, it
got uh a lot more pieces that you gotta connect
for uh. You know when when it comes to the line,
the uh, the receivers, uh, the motion you know, I
think I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
Play calling is uh just a lot more to I
think that's why, man, how do you.

Speaker 9 (01:07:51):
Know when it's starting to jail?

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
You could just tell how we move the ball completions
not not not really a uh a lot of mental assignments.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
I think that's the only way you could tell.

Speaker 9 (01:08:03):
For uh, Jerry, I know what you said.

Speaker 13 (01:08:06):
You you're not thinking about it like very much or
on your own or as a group.

Speaker 9 (01:08:10):
But as Kevin communicated to you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
When he wants to have much to say, you said,
what as.

Speaker 13 (01:08:16):
Kevin indicated to you guys, when he wants to have
a de situated about all before you started the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Group or uh uh not yet? I'm not not yet, Jerry.
Just two you gonna take two more?

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
Does two touchdown passes? Christ Stewart, I'm sure you got.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
A chance to watch the film or if you see.

Speaker 9 (01:08:32):
Highlights or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
Yeah, over a few times.

Speaker 9 (01:08:34):
What did you just think about being you know, just
accuracy and a touch on us.

Speaker 10 (01:08:38):
Like I said, sure, dog got a great arm, you know,
very accurate. He threw two great accurate balls, you know,
and the last one was he went through all his progression.
It was last reading and hell for him to as
a young quarterback, be able to make those reads, make
that progressive you know, cultos to him, you know, like
I said, he's a great quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
You know, I'm inside of for.

Speaker 12 (01:08:56):
His feature, Jerry, just thinking about your your last free
your first probe the first one thousand yard season, because
we get closer to actual games here, and like, what
are you thinking.

Speaker 9 (01:09:04):
About in terms of your personal goals to top what you.

Speaker 13 (01:09:07):
Did last year?

Speaker 12 (01:09:08):
And do you think about this more as we get
closer in the season, Just you your thought processes.

Speaker 10 (01:09:11):
Now, I didn't want to be better played than I
would last year, whether it that's one one more yard,
one more catch, one more touchdown, just just be better
than I would last year, you know. And I don't
really focused too much on my personal status. I focused
one game at a time and you know, hopefully I
get to what I need to get that by the
end of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
And he has looked spectacular all the way throughout camp.
We anticipate that continuing this week over in Philadelphia. Coming
up next Training Camp Insiders, Z, Bernie Carson swest Ury.
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Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
All right, now, here's a real treat for you. This
is Training Camp Insider Z Bernie and Carson Sweisseger.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Welcome into Training Camp Insider presented by Gregory Industries, Nathan's
Gura alongside the Browns legend Bernie Kozar and Bernie. Let's
go through a couple of plays that I wanted to
get your opinion on. The first will be his first
touchdown rolling to the left, and I'm telling you when
you say that was a tight window throw, he had
about enough space for the football to get through.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Over layered over that corner.

Speaker 5 (01:10:44):
Who dropped off and in front of the safety cover
in Kaden Davis just an absolutely beautiful ball.

Speaker 8 (01:10:49):
I think if you want to epitomize an awesome night,
look at both those touchdowns and the first one of
your were a right rolling left shown athleticism. Most right
handed quarterbacks don't want to roll left and then make
a tight window throw across your body within the red
zone like that, And that is what we've liked about Shador,
the layered throw over the corner, but with enough sauce

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to drop it down before the back pylon before the
safety got over. Of course perfect because of the outcome.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
And then the second one I thought showed kind of
some high level quarterback play. He's got a free runner
over there, Amani Marshall gets over, gets just enough of them,
but he slides to the right, kind of a veteran
move there, resets his feet and then throws it low
into the inside where only Kan Davis could get it
for his second touchdown. But I thought that was that
was a veteran quarterback play.

Speaker 8 (01:11:37):
Yeah, this one I'd love to have up on the
tellustrator here. This was awesome on ten different ways, and
this is quarterbacking at the leite level on about eight
to ten different nice things with it and as we're
just sitting here trying to reflect back on it. One
in the red zone, two seman's coverage and being able

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to look left and what you should be doing this
man look for that kind of bow out that was
going out to the back pylon. It's covered. To reset
his feet and then shuffle keeping his head up, not panicking.
Dropping his head. Young quarterbacks looking out your door, keep
his head up, didn't panic and drop it. And then
when he shuffled and set, he didn't run. And then

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to set like that and throw a bullet on time. Okay,
four to six. He belongs in the NFL and we're
blest straight out of me watching that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah, that was a very very good play there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
And even when you go back to when he was
micd up, Kenny Pickety goes wait to get back to
that read to stick with that play and gets Kateen Davis.
He also had a great throw out of the end
zone third and long, two guys bearing down on him,
backed up in his own end to gauge Larvadan on
an inward breaking route that was thirty yards in the
air on a rope. Any questions about his arm strength
were certainly answered. I think in this game, yeah, armstrength,

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just ball. We've been out here, We're blessed to be out.

Speaker 8 (01:12:57):
Here in practice and see that constantly and daily. His
arm strength is more than more than good enough for
NFL throws. And the transition to the game and then
transitions actually better in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
It sure did.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
And then he had beautiful touch on one to Luke
Flora who made a great one hand to catch. Unfortunately
hurt his hamstring. Browns had to wave Floria today with
an injury designation. But I know there's a lot of
hope that he will be back here and on the
practice squad this season. This is a little thing. This
one show up in the box score is a big play.
But when the Browns went on their third scoring drive,
and by the way, great complimentary football. You get a
punt return where they muffet, you recover it, boom, touchdown.

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Nick Needham gets a great interception off Andy Dalton, Boom,
you go down, you score again. But on that one
on second down, Shador Sanders, maybe earlier in the game,
may have tried to run or spin out, but there
was a lot of pressure. What he wanted wasn't there.
But he stayed calm and took the check down to
Travion Williams in the flat.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Now, again it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Doesn't seem like a big play, but that picked up
five yards that got him down to the goal line
so that they could run the ball in with Gage
Larvadan on that JetSuite. But that to me was again subtle,
and you saw as the game evolved him learning and
making the smart play subtle.

Speaker 8 (01:14:01):
Excellent point there to take a play that could have
been second and twenty or second and seventeen and turn
it into second and six or second and five, and
that was aid. That was as a wide swing type
checkdown in the play action game. I think we'll see
more of that for Shudor, and I think this is
gonna help him evolve to keep doing more of that,

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and again we'll be the beneficiaries of that, because that's
in addition.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
To his game.

Speaker 8 (01:14:27):
And I think that's gonna, you know, give him some
escapability on plays that were negative in college, a play
on like the fourth down that was negative, he kept
retreating back. Those will end up not part of his
system because he's gonna see now what to do in
those situations.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Absolutely, as you look at that and a gran a
great job from short stands that handle the operation. Well,
we didn't really have penalties till the third string line
came in and a couple of those guys jumped prematurely,
but good job. They're really a good showing overall, thirty
to ten, the Browns go out and win. The depth
of this football team. It was great to see Alex
right back. He gets a sack, Aiden Huntington gets a sack.
Julian Aquara, who's been a wrecker out here all training camp,

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he gets two sacks. And then really the Browns took
care of the football. Note giveaways in this game, two takeaways.
Just overall, a very solid performance.

Speaker 8 (01:15:12):
A phenomenally solid performance. And the phrase to Nathan, you're saying,
we've used a little bit through the year, and I
really buy into it in the spirit of Marty Schottenheimer,
complimentary football and it's so needed. I've maen sure that
I've aged and this is something that is absolutely a
core component of what will be successful in the NFL,

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and Cleveland right now is doing that. We saw it
Friday night.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
We certainly did strong showing Friday night, and this team
picked up right where it left off. Today, especially on
the offensive side today. Kenny Pickett was out there in
seven on seven, still limited, Dylan Gabriel did get some teamwork,
Joe Flacco working with the one, Shadour with the twos
in those team periods. So let me tell you something.
The offense was putting points on the board today. The
joke who touchdown Judy touchdowns Gauge Larvada and touchdown Bill

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and Kenny Pickett had one point three straight touchdowns in
that low red zone area. It was great to see.
And then they get into one minute drill where you
got to get down. The Browns one defense did stop
Joe Flack on the one offense, but Shador Sanders boom
boom boom three completions to set up a game winning
field goal. Just a great day for this Browns offense.

Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
Today's practice, the momentum that we continue with, and what
Nathan's pointing out, we saw a lot of twelve and
thirteen personnel thirteen personnel in the red zone today and
that gives me even a more amplify my excitement for
the season and for the team because we're gonna be
able to be physical running the ball with Conklin and
Dwan Jones and those three tight ends. Harold Fannin is

(01:16:38):
doing phenomenal. We're seeing We're seeing that we're gonna be
able to physical with him and the creativity the coach
Stefanski coach Revees have come up with with the way
they're throwing the ball in the red zone. It was
a dominant offensive performance today.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
If you wanted to see the scoreboard lit up, today
was the day for you. But the defense had its
moments as well. And going back to that preseason game,
we talked about Shador Well, a couple of the other rookies,
Bason Graham, he really stood out, generating pressures running through
double teams. And then Carson Sweessenger, the thirty third pick
in this draft. Thirteen snaps, six tackles, four of them solo.
Last year at UCLA he led the nation in solo tackles.

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He was an absolute magnet. Got a chance to talk
with him after practice today.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Take a listen.

Speaker 8 (01:17:17):
What a great day, A little hot here out of
Brown's training camp and super honored to be here with Carson. Carson,
I gotta ask you, now, how do you feel after
your first game getting a taste of live action Friday night.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
Oh, I feel great. I think now it's just to
just one more, you know. That's that's that's all I want.
Really needs to go back out and keep playing.

Speaker 8 (01:17:37):
You know, when I when I watched it the other
day and I see the game and I've been watching
this through training camp for the fans out there, and
you know, for yourself, I'm gonna absolutely show my age.
So I apologize for it. But the end of my
career is with Jimmy Johnson, and he was so focused
on defense, stop of the running game, and so believed
from the inside out with speed, and he drafted Tim

(01:17:59):
Bones and the first round and you get a big
defensive tackle and to see what we did with the
defensive tackle in the first round. And then he took
Zach Thomas later in the later in the draft, and
it didn't seem like the sexiest pick. And Zach Thomas
now has a home in Canton, right down the street.
So when I watch you play, I'm not saying this
to be a suck up and to put over pressure

(01:18:21):
on you with the with the fans at the start
of your career, But wow, do I see a similarity
to Tim Bonens and Zach Thomas and and for you
to you know, to be be in that type of
energy level. Do you emulate your game after anybody?

Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
Yeah, I appreciate that first of all, and I think
it makes it a lot easier when you're playing behind
the D line we got and we have the second
secondary we have. You know, teams want to try and
run the ball, and when you have that D line,
it makes it easy to find the wall behind it.

Speaker 11 (01:18:48):
And I think I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
Always trying to take bits and pieces from people. One
of the Beckers that was more when I was growing
up was Keegley and just you know, how he played
the game, how how he prepared, and then also when
he was on the field, just always at the ball,
always doing things like that.

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
Is stuff I try to emulate from.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
An old quarterback perspective, looking at you here and all
the compliments I just gave, I couldn't help if I
was a quarterback game planning knowing you're a rookie, and
it'd be my job to kind of pick you apart,
isolate you, and work on you in the course of
the game. So the league keeps working like that. You
know you're gonna be the focal point. You know you're
getting a ton of reps and playing how do you

(01:19:25):
embrace that type of challenge.

Speaker 7 (01:19:27):
I think, like you said, just embrace it and go
out there and be ready for it. But really it's
the preparation that's gonna come into it. And going into
the game knowing having all the answers and being prepared
for what I'm gonna get and knowing what I'm gonna
get is gonna allow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Me to keep playing fast and keep playing physical.

Speaker 8 (01:19:40):
Hey, from the Mike middle linebacker perspective, Mac linebacker perspective,
I like to kind of ask linebackers because a lot
of times linebackers should be asking me, but they typically don't.
As to what's the quarterback looking at when I'm staring
dead square into your eyes or looking past you. But

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really I still see every movement you're making and how
to kind of manipulate coverage and manipulate your thought process
with eye contact and even trying to create confidence or
fear you know, comes across in eye contact. Do you
do you look at that? Do you look at your
opposing quarterbacks and try to gauge them as the course

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of the game goes on.

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
Yeah, I think it's almost the reverse for us is
like you said, you're either looking at the micro looking
at the guys behind us, trying to see what's going on,
and we're the same way. We're looking at the quarterback,
looking at the back seeing seeing what the line's doing.
So kind of getting all the pieces you can to
really determine what the play is, even PRESNAT formation and
motions and things like that, and then also just knowing
the defense we're in and what look the offense is

(01:20:47):
giving us and so what they think is going to work,
whether we're in a two high or a one high,
and knowing you know what possible checks they could have
off of that and why they would check in. And
I think knowing all that presnat really helps to.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
Play best well for the fans out there, I sense
that from watching you and stuff, and for people out there,
it's a great gift. It's somewhat of an innate skill
to be able to peripherally look around, look up and
just like our quarterbacks, I'm looking I'm I mean, I
see the camera, but I'm looking above it and stuff,

(01:21:20):
and you see everything going around. It's the same with
you as the middle linebacker, and for a rookie, you know,
to have a three hundred and twenty pound offensive guard
coming at you now with more two back. Then to
have an h and a two hundred and fifty pounds
full back leading up in you two tackle a two
hundred and ten pound running back. That's a big challenge

(01:21:41):
on any human, let alone a rook So it was
impressive to see you have that nose for the ball,
that sense of how to you know, not just be there,
but then when you're there, do something about it. I mean,
it's four solo tackles, six tackles in thirteen plays. How's
your body after something like that?

Speaker 11 (01:21:58):
God? Feel great?

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Still young.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
I think some of the older guys probably probably have
different different views on that, but you know, I'm still
I'm still pretty fresh.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
So hopefully.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
It's impressive to see.

Speaker 8 (01:22:10):
It's impressive to see how one you're playing, how you
embrace it, and when you couple the athleticism with the
instincts and the mental preparation, you can see why we
got a u c l A bio engineering major here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Love it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
Congrats to you, Thank you. I say this a lot
to everybody. I say you matter. Not because I went
to the University of Miami, but I've watched you also
through camp. Not only is your effort and focus awesome
on the field, you went massively out of your way
and the tired situations for the fans. There were so
many cool fans out there, and your attention to the

(01:22:44):
Browns and the dog Pound fans was awesome. But your
extra kind of attention to younger people and the kids,
they really look up to you. And I tell people,
for all of us, you matter because it's important for
us for self confidence and self esteem and even guys
like us that there's supposedly cool played in sports. Sometimes
our self confidence and self esteem's not there. And you're

(01:23:05):
playing middle linebacker in the NFL. You need to have
some self confident and self esteem. So you got you matter, brother,
Thank you, Good luck to you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
What a great kid and he's gonna have to be
the quarterback of this defense and certainly all reports from
his linebacker coach Jason tarveror from head coach comes to
fans guard that this kid is up to the test,
very smart and just he's a big guy.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
He's a fantastic young man. I mean a big guy,
a smart guy, an instinctive guy. And he's here from
me talking with him to see to see the him
as a person off the fields one thing, but just
on the field slide out impressive. So first Browns fans,
I love this combination coming in front of us with
Mason Graham and Carson Slusson's.

Speaker 5 (01:23:46):
You always talk about that symbiotic relationship between the good
guys on the interior of the defensive line and the
mic linebacker behind him. You saw it back in Miami. Well,
guess what, you can see how impressive he is on
the field. But let's hear what that sounds like. We
had Carson Sweeshiser, Mike.

Speaker 11 (01:24:00):
What's the football? I think my head's on even top
of the morning. That don't do it. I don't know
that else for me, I swear that's okay. You know,
I get it. I get it. You could could look
like a clap even like right here, and I'm like,
I'm good here.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
You don't watch film.

Speaker 11 (01:24:22):
It's another good day. I woke up this morning, looked outside,
what do you think that'll do it? And say that
does the trick?

Speaker 6 (01:24:33):
I gotta.

Speaker 11 (01:24:36):
I don't talk to people. Oh yeah, I'm always fired up.
I knew the first song today. No oh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
What, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
All right, I don't matter.

Speaker 11 (01:25:16):
Yeah, Harold Cannon.

Speaker 6 (01:25:19):
First and last is crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
What's full name?

Speaker 11 (01:25:21):
Yeah, but you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
I don't think you could just go Harold? Who else
is Harold?

Speaker 12 (01:25:24):
Just?

Speaker 11 (01:25:25):
I mean nice Harold, like a person. It is exactly
so like nice Harold fannom.

Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
Hey, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Hey, here we go.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
Hey, we got our bread and butter.

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
Let's keep it. Let's keep the foot down.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Damn moon scoob.

Speaker 13 (01:25:44):
Watch the sideline, sidelight sidelight sideline.

Speaker 11 (01:25:49):
You're talking to somebody just said Rolodex, and I always
hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
You never know.

Speaker 8 (01:25:54):
That's my dog camp.

Speaker 11 (01:25:55):
I for my dog here. So Rolodex is the old camp.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
Uh addresses and contacts in there like the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
But rolling around and get the like note cards anyway,
So happy we don't have no.

Speaker 6 (01:26:12):
Yeah, I'm old enough.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
To ahead of rowodex. You guys.

Speaker 11 (01:26:20):
All right, have a good hurt. How you guys doing?

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
This is what we live for, running and hidding.

Speaker 11 (01:26:26):
I got a lot of magic.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
Tennison, the pile.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
Get the ball that Carson did the mood dead.

Speaker 8 (01:26:39):
You don't have one yet? Oh my god, I'll put
that on the mic up.

Speaker 5 (01:26:43):
Browns fans are gonna absolutely love Carson sweatage. You're flying around,
talking physical, all of that. So all right, Bernie, through
week one of the preseason. Tomorrow, the Browns are gonna
board a plane. We're gonna head to Philadelphia to take
on the defending Super Bowl Champion's gonna be two days
of joint practices Wednesday and Thursday. There a lot of
work for the Browns starters there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Friday will be off game on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
That'll be a lot of the twos and threes again
as we saw down in Carolina. And guess what training
camp Insider, we're gonna give you all the action from Philadelphia.
Will be back on Thursday, giving you kind of a
synopsis of the prior two days of those joint practices.
And then also Thursday night, eight o'clock on News five,
it's the Training Camp Preview Special. So a lot coming
your way. But Bernie, this is a big week. You're

(01:27:26):
going to take on the defending Super Bowl champions. You
want a measuring stick. You want to know where this
team is at heading the regular season. We're gonna find
out a lot next week.

Speaker 8 (01:27:34):
Yeah, absolutely, the measuring stick and even in particular, maybe
a niche within that is. Philadelphia is really known for
the awesome defensive line, awesome offensive line. We've been super
proud and effective the depth of our defensive line. We're
now going up against the Super Bowl champs who have
the premier defensive line and depth, except they don't have

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Miles Garrett. So it'll be again a big test of
physical football for our defensive line. And I think this
is the type of stuff that's all may not be
pretty Wednesday and Thursday, may not be pretty Saturday afternoon.
I believe this is just tough for the callouses that
we've been talking about through training camp. That's going to
toughen us up to be that physical, run, play action team,

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complimentary football we need to be in September starting out
to season.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
And I think if you can go to Philadelphia and
you can hang with the defending Super Bowl champions, you're
gonna get a lot of confidence coming out of that.
I thought we went to Carolina, we dominated them in
the joint practice, dominated them on the field thirty to ten.
Now you want to go and just be let's say,
let's get to that level. We win bonus, let's be physical.
We showed again I'm not trying to be funny. I'm
not trying to be disrespectful to Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
But we showed we are massively bigger and.

Speaker 8 (01:28:43):
More physical than the Carolina Panthers. Now we're playing the
super Bowl champs. Of anything, we could show we physically
belong and take that as a challenge because that is
the barometer for an NFL season.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Who you are? So a lot of fun again.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
Training Camp Inside'll be back on Thursday with a look
at the two joint practice Wednesday and Thursday, and then
the Training Camp preview show edition of Brown's Countdown eight
o'clock on News five this Thursday night as well. Great
week in Charlotte, Let's have a great week in Philadelphia
for Bernie Cozar. I'm Nathan Siger saying thanks for watching.
Training Camp Inside are presented by Gregory Industries.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
All right, there you go tomorrow. What does it look
like against the defending champs? He will be here to
tell us right at one o'clock. The next level is
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