November 29, 2024 • 10 mins
Pride of the Jaguars RB Fred Taylor joins J.P. Shadrick to preview the upcoming division rivalry game against the Texans right here in DUUUVAL. The duo shares how the Jaguars must stop RB Joe Mixon and to keep an eye on the Jaguars tempo and rhythm in Week 13. Fred talks on the remaining Jaguars schedule. All this and more on this week's Countdown to Kickoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor, co host of the Pivot podcast
as well. You can tell by his hat and his shirt.
It's great to see you friend always.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey man, it's always good to see you two JP
man been running around the world. Man, still football, you know, football, football, football,
but everything else is life. So I just needed to
take a break, much like this team needed to take
a break. So hopefully it serves all of us well.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh and by the way, congrats on the semi finalist
Pro Football Hall of Fame again. Getting to that level
and we got to get you to that next level
again and then get you to the to the final level.
The final Boss still needs to be beaten at some point.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, the Final Boss is still in play. You know,
I can't control the preliminaries. But once I get there, man,
it'll be all she wrote. So I'll be ready. Just know,
I'm ready. You know when that time come, I'm sure
it'll be. It'll be memorable for everyone involved. So thankful,
(01:04):
grateful to have made semi finalists again this year. Sit
back and kind of wait and see what happens on
the next step. Then you go, you know, you go
from there. So it's one step at a time.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm ready for the party in Canton. Whenever it goes down.
I just want to be there because I know it's
going to be an all timer.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Fred.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We'll get to that later, of course. That sure, let's
get to this Jaguars team coming off the bye week.
They're two and nine, they're not mathematically eliminated, so there's
some kind of shred of something. But the last time
we saw them play football, fread, it was the worst
loss in Jaguars history. So how do you regroup on
a bye week with all that going on?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, you hope that everyone still has a sense
of urgency. You hope that they're all being accountable and
have not thrown in the towel, you know, to a man,
to each other, as teammates and staff, et cetera. You
want to make sure that there's still a sense of urgency.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Guys have rehab, Guys are nursing injuries, Guys are trying
to get out there and play. They're playing for you know,
contracts or whatever it might be. You want to make
sure that everybody's still on the same page, because the
last time we saw them. It seemed that no one
even read the book. Nevertheless being on the same page.
So here's a chance to have a fresh reset. They
(02:31):
realized that they have six more in front of them,
with an opportunity to try and go eight.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
To nine and see how the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But it starts with you know, divisional opponent in Houston,
a team that they played well the first time out.
You know, as I think I recall it, had a
few overthrows that game, and even late they had an
opportunity late to sort of put it away. Didn't go
into the four minute offense, didn't do well. Texans got
the ball, went score, put the game away. But very
(03:02):
competitive matchup, still a very competitive group. So they have
to make sure they remember who they are. You know,
no one we can't remind them. They have to know
who they are.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Bret Taylor with us. Yet in that game, Anico Collins
went off with big numbers. They didn't have Joe Mixon
that day. They've got Joe Mixon now. And the Shaguars
defense has struggled in most areas. Let's be honest, they're
lasting total defense, they're near the bottom and every other metric.
But if they can't stop the run and it sets
up everything else. And they haven't been able to consistently
(03:36):
do that this year. So how do you slow down
Joe Mixon. I've asked you this with all these different
running backs this year. Yeah, and they haven't really been
able to do it lately.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah. No, Joe, Joe is he's the beast. He's a
big boy man that twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
A lot of people text me and say he is
spinning the image of you, Freddy T. And I heard
this from way back in the day. One of our
scouts in the building, Cub Triggers. Cub with Kubby would
tell me, like that kid in since he reminds me
of you. But now he's with the Texans and big, strong, fast,
(04:09):
can run, with power, shifty, he can do it all.
And he's gonna take some pressure off of CJ who
hasn't had the best season.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Or hasn't had the season as he had a year ago.
So they want to run. Give him the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's averaging four point to a whip even in the
time that he's been out. How do you stop him?
You have to just want to store him down. You
hit him early. It's doable. They don't have the greatest
offensive line, so it's doable. They have to just maintain
their defensive integrity gap space and as long as they're
doing that, and the hardest thing in football, in my opinion,
(04:45):
not playing quarterback. Tackling is the hardest thing in football.
They got to tackle. If they tackle play gap integrity,
they should be fine. And you mentioned they didn't have
Joe Mixon the first game. They don't have Stephan d
this game, right, So it's kind of like for me,
it's almost you know, pick your poison. It's a wash,
(05:06):
but you do have to stop to run first and
find a way to sort of put a little pressure
on Strout.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You can walk away with a win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Bred Taylor with us on the other side, there's question
marks this week around the quarterback position. Trevor Lawrence practiced
on Monday. We'll see how the rest of the week
is gone. But you know, and then if he doesn't go,
then mac Jones is going. We've seen how that's gone
the last couple of weeks. On offense, you know, Doug
Peterson talked this week. He didn't give a lot in
his Monday press conference about the changes they've made, but
(05:36):
he mentioned the words rhythm and tempo. So to me,
that's a red light. Okay, they might speed it up
a little bit on offense, What does that even mean?
How do you speed up an offense in week thirteen, twelve,
whatever week?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You you know, you come out there and you try
your best to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Get some rhythm. I guess drive starters.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, you want to come out first down, You
want to be efficient short yards, quick, quick passes, just
to get some rhythm, get some flow, and you know,
not so much take shots.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But if I've always thought that's what.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They were attempting to do, you know, maybe they're going
to play without a huddle. You know, in that way
they can put a little pressure on the posing defense
just to hurry and get their play calls in. And
sometimes you can manipulate the defenses simply by not being
in a huddle, because a lot of times their go
to signal is their safe defense. Most teams safe defenses
(06:37):
some form of cover too, And if you can get
them into and run the ball and get five six
a wop and stay in that sort of mindset, then
you're playing at a faster tempo, at a better rhythm.
So hopefully he's speaking to that a little bit, But again,
I don't know. I don't know what's at stake. I mean,
(07:00):
I know what's at stake, but I don't know, you know,
what's on the plate for them. But I'm interested to
see exactly what he meant.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
All right, Fred, We've got six games to go and
they're not mathematically eliminated. So there is a chance if
they run the table and other teams above them do not,
that they're kind of in this thing. But they're not
in it right now, so that is that realistic? At
what point do you stop buying that in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, you hopefully they don't stop buying it right exactly.
You know, they have to take it one game at
a time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you know, the guys that were on the team
a couple of years ago when they made that run,
they know what it feels like. And you know, here
it also the guys that were on a team of
year ago know what it feels like, you know, when
you're going the other way, which is what they're doing now.
So just just win one. That'll create a little spark
and hopefully that spark turns into a flame as they
(07:59):
continue to go throughout this season.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So you got to win one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And it starts with a seven and five Houston Texans team,
and you know you just got to go out there
and put it together. Get after CJ. From a defensive standpoint,
stop Joe Mixing. As we mentioned offensively, just do something,
do something. I mean, I don't care what it is.
(08:23):
Do something protective football, but do something. Get the ball
to the number seven. He has to have some touches.
I can say that much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, that would be a good strategy. I know you're
a tremendous athlete, a machine of sorts, even still so
long retired from the game, Fred, But this is a
great cheap week Thanksgiving. What is your go to Thanksgiving
food and favorite? And how much will you eat?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know what? I try to balance it out, JP.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, I requested this week just a cornish hen
where I like to. I've started frying the little cornish
hen that little things. It's pretty good. So I'm not
a huge, a big big Turkey guy. Turkey, the trip
to fan and all of that, it just makes me
(09:18):
tired and sleep and you know it messes up the
football games on Thanksgiving. So I prefer cornish hen all
to myself. A little stuffing, some cranberry dressing on the side.
What else, Mac and cheese. Gotta have my mac and cheese.
That's it for me. I mean, well, its color greens.
(09:39):
I gotta have some badgue somewhere. So that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's The British trips must be wearing off on you.
With a Cornish hen.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Answer, I must say, I'm breaking the American tradition. I mean,
I'm like, where all these turkeys come from anyway, you know,
I'm like, where we get all these turkeys from to
feed the whole entire country on Thanksgiving. I don't know,
I'm crazy sometimes day people, I like that Cornish hand
your flavor. You do it right, you know, it can
(10:09):
come out pretty good. Sometimes we bake it, you know,
sometimes we fry it. So I'm looking forward to it. Well,
people have my protein.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You gotta have it. You gotta have it for gains
for sure. Fred A great week, Happy Thanksgiving to you
and the family.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Man. Sure, my brother, I'll see you
Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor, co host of the Pivot podcast
as well. You can tell by his hat and his shirt.
It's great to see you friend always.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey man, it's always good to see you two JP
man been running around the world. Man, still football, you know, football, football, football,
but everything else is life. So I just needed to
take a break, much like this team needed to take
a break. So hopefully it serves all of us well.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh and by the way, congrats on the semi finalist
Pro Football Hall of Fame again. Getting to that level
and we got to get you to that next level
again and then get you to the to the final level.
The final Boss still needs to be beaten at some point.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, the Final Boss is still in play. You know,
I can't control the preliminaries. But once I get there, man,
it'll be all she wrote. So I'll be ready. Just know,
I'm ready. You know when that time come, I'm sure
it'll be. It'll be memorable for everyone involved. So thankful,
(01:04):
grateful to have made semi finalists again this year. Sit
back and kind of wait and see what happens on
the next step. Then you go, you know, you go
from there. So it's one step at a time.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I'm ready for the party in Canton. Whenever it goes down.
I just want to be there because I know it's
going to be an all timer.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Fred.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We'll get to that later, of course. That sure, let's
get to this Jaguars team coming off the bye week.
They're two and nine, they're not mathematically eliminated, so there's
some kind of shred of something. But the last time
we saw them play football, fread, it was the worst
loss in Jaguars history. So how do you regroup on
a bye week with all that going on?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, you hope that everyone still has a sense
of urgency. You hope that they're all being accountable and
have not thrown in the towel, you know, to a man,
to each other, as teammates and staff, et cetera. You
want to make sure that there's still a sense of urgency.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Guys have rehab, Guys are nursing injuries, Guys are trying
to get out there and play. They're playing for you know,
contracts or whatever it might be. You want to make
sure that everybody's still on the same page, because the
last time we saw them. It seemed that no one
even read the book. Nevertheless being on the same page.
So here's a chance to have a fresh reset. They
(02:31):
realized that they have six more in front of them,
with an opportunity to try and go eight.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
To nine and see how the chips fall.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But it starts with you know, divisional opponent in Houston,
a team that they played well the first time out.
You know, as I think I recall it, had a
few overthrows that game, and even late they had an
opportunity late to sort of put it away. Didn't go
into the four minute offense, didn't do well. Texans got
the ball, went score, put the game away. But very
(03:02):
competitive matchup, still a very competitive group. So they have
to make sure they remember who they are. You know,
no one we can't remind them. They have to know
who they are.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Bret Taylor with us. Yet in that game, Anico Collins
went off with big numbers. They didn't have Joe Mixon
that day. They've got Joe Mixon now. And the Shaguars
defense has struggled in most areas. Let's be honest, they're
lasting total defense, they're near the bottom and every other metric.
But if they can't stop the run and it sets
up everything else. And they haven't been able to consistently
(03:36):
do that this year. So how do you slow down
Joe Mixon. I've asked you this with all these different
running backs this year. Yeah, and they haven't really been
able to do it lately.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah. No, Joe, Joe is he's the beast. He's a
big boy man that twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
A lot of people text me and say he is
spinning the image of you, Freddy T. And I heard
this from way back in the day. One of our
scouts in the building, Cub Triggers. Cub with Kubby would
tell me, like that kid in since he reminds me
of you. But now he's with the Texans and big, strong, fast,
(04:09):
can run, with power, shifty, he can do it all.
And he's gonna take some pressure off of CJ who
hasn't had the best season.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Or hasn't had the season as he had a year ago.
So they want to run. Give him the ball.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
He's averaging four point to a whip even in the
time that he's been out. How do you stop him?
You have to just want to store him down. You
hit him early. It's doable. They don't have the greatest
offensive line, so it's doable. They have to just maintain
their defensive integrity gap space and as long as they're
doing that, and the hardest thing in football, in my opinion,
(04:45):
not playing quarterback. Tackling is the hardest thing in football.
They got to tackle. If they tackle play gap integrity,
they should be fine. And you mentioned they didn't have
Joe Mixon the first game. They don't have Stephan d
this game, right, So it's kind of like for me,
it's almost you know, pick your poison. It's a wash,
(05:06):
but you do have to stop to run first and
find a way to sort of put a little pressure
on Strout.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You can walk away with a win.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Bred Taylor with us on the other side, there's question
marks this week around the quarterback position. Trevor Lawrence practiced
on Monday. We'll see how the rest of the week
is gone. But you know, and then if he doesn't go,
then mac Jones is going. We've seen how that's gone
the last couple of weeks. On offense, you know, Doug
Peterson talked this week. He didn't give a lot in
his Monday press conference about the changes they've made, but
(05:36):
he mentioned the words rhythm and tempo. So to me,
that's a red light. Okay, they might speed it up
a little bit on offense, What does that even mean?
How do you speed up an offense in week thirteen, twelve,
whatever week?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
You you know, you come out there and you try
your best to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Get some rhythm. I guess drive starters.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
You know, you want to come out first down, You
want to be efficient short yards, quick, quick passes, just
to get some rhythm, get some flow, and you know,
not so much take shots.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But if I've always thought that's what.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They were attempting to do, you know, maybe they're going
to play without a huddle. You know, in that way
they can put a little pressure on the posing defense
just to hurry and get their play calls in. And
sometimes you can manipulate the defenses simply by not being
in a huddle, because a lot of times their go
to signal is their safe defense. Most teams safe defenses
(06:37):
some form of cover too, And if you can get
them into and run the ball and get five six
a wop and stay in that sort of mindset, then
you're playing at a faster tempo, at a better rhythm.
So hopefully he's speaking to that a little bit, But again,
I don't know. I don't know what's at stake. I mean,
(07:00):
I know what's at stake, but I don't know, you know,
what's on the plate for them. But I'm interested to
see exactly what he meant.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
All right, Fred, We've got six games to go and
they're not mathematically eliminated. So there is a chance if
they run the table and other teams above them do not,
that they're kind of in this thing. But they're not
in it right now, so that is that realistic? At
what point do you stop buying that in the locker room?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, you hopefully they don't stop buying it right exactly.
You know, they have to take it one game at
a time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And you know, the guys that were on the team
a couple of years ago when they made that run,
they know what it feels like. And you know, here
it also the guys that were on a team of
year ago know what it feels like, you know, when
you're going the other way, which is what they're doing now.
So just just win one. That'll create a little spark
and hopefully that spark turns into a flame as they
(07:59):
continue to go throughout this season.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So you got to win one.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And it starts with a seven and five Houston Texans team,
and you know you just got to go out there
and put it together. Get after CJ. From a defensive standpoint,
stop Joe Mixing. As we mentioned offensively, just do something,
do something. I mean, I don't care what it is.
(08:23):
Do something protective football, but do something. Get the ball
to the number seven. He has to have some touches.
I can say that much.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, that would be a good strategy. I know you're
a tremendous athlete, a machine of sorts, even still so
long retired from the game, Fred, But this is a
great cheap week Thanksgiving. What is your go to Thanksgiving
food and favorite? And how much will you eat?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You know what? I try to balance it out, JP.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, I requested this week just a cornish hen
where I like to. I've started frying the little cornish
hen that little things. It's pretty good. So I'm not
a huge, a big big Turkey guy. Turkey, the trip
to fan and all of that, it just makes me
(09:18):
tired and sleep and you know it messes up the
football games on Thanksgiving. So I prefer cornish hen all
to myself. A little stuffing, some cranberry dressing on the side.
What else, Mac and cheese. Gotta have my mac and cheese.
That's it for me. I mean, well, its color greens.
(09:39):
I gotta have some badgue somewhere. So that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
That's The British trips must be wearing off on you.
With a Cornish hen.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Answer, I must say, I'm breaking the American tradition. I mean,
I'm like, where all these turkeys come from anyway, you know,
I'm like, where we get all these turkeys from to
feed the whole entire country on Thanksgiving. I don't know,
I'm crazy sometimes day people, I like that Cornish hand
your flavor. You do it right, you know, it can
(10:09):
come out pretty good. Sometimes we bake it, you know,
sometimes we fry it. So I'm looking forward to it. Well,
people have my protein.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You gotta have it. You gotta have it for gains
for sure. Fred A great week, Happy Thanksgiving to you
and the family.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Man. Sure, my brother, I'll see you
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