November 14, 2025 • 31 mins
J.P. Shadrick and Brian Sexton catch up with former Jaguars RB Fred Taylor, CBS Sports Analyst Adam Archuleta, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, K Cam Little and Jaguars Special Teams Coordinator Heath Farwell. The group discusses the upcoming matchup between the Chargers and the Jaguars, Jaguars nagging injuries, how the Jags can rebound and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time for our countdown to kick off interviews for Week eleven,
JP Shadwick with you ahead of the Chargers Jaguars match up,
delivered by CSX. We start this week with CBS Sports
Senior writer Pete Prisco, each week visiting with Mike Dempse.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's something I've been hoping and preaching he needs
to do for a while. I just think he plays
better when he turns it loose. And it's almost like
these he's not alone in this league anymore, Mike. I mean,
you look at the completion percentages around the league. They're
higher than they've ever been, in large part because people
don't turn it loose. They're ready to take the checkdown.
And he's guilty of that. We've seen it many, many,
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many times this season where he's passed on the big
throw down the field to take the easy throw and
so turn it loose, go have fun. And I said
this on Monday, I said, what he should do is
what they should do is put on the tape of
the second half of the game against the last time
he played the Chargers, you know, in the playoffs, and say, hey,
look at this, this is when you turned it loose
because you had to turn it loose or go play
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like that, and I think they'll ultimately get to that.
The problem is that, you know, the weapons down the
field haven't exactly been playing at a great level either.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's a great way to look at it, right, Like,
do you think any NFL coach has ever gone into
a game telling us quarterback, hey, let's approach just like
we're down seventeen, right, Like, let's go out and play
like your hair's on fire. I think they're more conservative
by nature, but you're right somehow you got to get
yourself in that mindset that it's out there for me
and I just have to go take it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, And you know, we always have the old adage
it's built in still from way back in yesteryear. If
you throw the football, three things can happen in two
of them are bad. Right, that's not the case. I
mean you can also you know, you run the ball
and you have a long time consuming drive and you
end up getting a field goal. Is that a better
situation than getting a seventy yard touchdown pass down the sideline?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Absolutely not. And I think we've gotten too caught up
in this. You know, all these defenses play off coverage now,
and so everybody's afraid to take the big shot. Well,
there's ways to beat those the coverages with the big shot.
You just got to figure it out. I don't think
the offensive coaches have been aggressive and enough, aggressive enough,
not just in Jacksonville, but every taking their shots down
the field.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Pete, you've been around covering this league for a long
time as well as anybody. And when teams get to Tuesday,
they start talking about how we got to look ahead
the next week, we can't let it impact us. How
easy is that to do or how difficult in this
circumstance where you do blow a nineteen point lead and
for the first time in franchise history, and you lose
in the fourth quarter in the fashion they did. How
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well positioned is this Jaguar team mentally to bounce back?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
In your opinion, Well, it's going to test Liam Cone again.
I mean, and he's done a nice job of handling
himself during the week. But I'm a big believer in
once you get out on the field and get hit
in the mouth the next week, that game's gone. Now
you might carry it over into the Wednesday and you're
thinking about it and maybe even in a Thursday. But
then I think you put it behind you and you
realize what you have to do, and then when you
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get out of the field and the guy across from
you puts a four ONM in your mouth, you're not
going to sit there and say, oh, well, what happened
last week? Maybe I'm not reacting to test them up.
So I think that stuff kind of gets overrated because
it is a week to week league, and I think
guys do a great job of putting it behind them.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
A typical team would look at the charges and go, Wow,
they're playing without their starting tackles, your interior, the offensive
line has had issues. We are going to feast in
the pass rush. But it's a very similar situation to
what Houston had last week. Are the Jags going to
be able to impact Justin Herbert with their pass rush today?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
They better, And you know we saw that last week.
That's a bad offensive line and they didn't get much pressure.
And it's a lot of money invested in that defensive line,
a lot of assets invested in that defensive line to
not get pressure. So I mean, if I were on
that team right now, I would be calling out the
pass rushers I'd call out Josh heinz Allen and he
kind of did. This week, Liam Cohen, I'd call out
Trayvon Walker. I mean, your first overall pick and you
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don't do anything. And I know he had to hand injury,
but you've got to be more aggressive getting up the field.
You know, even the fact where he got called back
for the personal foul, the guy tried to cut them.
It wasn't like he won tried to cut him and
miss them. And so I think this is a week
they have to be able to pressure justin Herbert, it's
going to be a long day, Pete.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
For many years we've looked at this team and said, man,
why can't they cover a tight end? And over the
last few weeks it's kind of been that case. Again.
I know they have a bunch of injuries in the secondary.
You're not getting pressure, so you know, guys have to
cover longer. But a Rondee Gatson junior, maybe not a
household name, very good young player in his rookie season
making an impact. How dangerous is he to the Jaguars
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defense today?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, he's definitely dangerous because he's you know, he's a
formal wide receiver's blown up to a tight end. So
he gives you mismatchup problems. And you know, we thought
last week we saw the touchdown in the back of
the end zone to the tight end and how did
that happen? Well, he had a week and a day
to throw the football. I mean, if you're going to
have a week in a day to throw the football,
you're going to beat those those safeties. And it's a
little bit of a you know, liability in that defense.
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Winger can't run with anybody and that's a problem, and
Johnson blows assignments. That's a problem. So you have two
safeties that you can't rely on. And I think when
you want to try and get aggressive and blitz, you're
going to leave those safeties in some one on one
situations and that's problematic. So it's like you're damned if
you do and you're damned if you don't. And it's
tough to call defense when you don't have a great
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pass rush and you have safeties who give up big plays.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
All right, all that being said, how do you see
it going today?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I think the Chargers win the game. I just they
could prove me wrong by rushing the passer. But if
you don't rush justin Herbert, He's gonna sit back and
carve you to shreds. And I just think what we
saw from the Chargers defense last week was impressive. I
know it's a short, you know, short turnaround for them
on the East Coast, but I just think Herbert's going
to do enough to win the game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I caught up with CBS sports analyst Adam Marcalletto Friday
first overall ten thousand foot view of Liam Cohen's first
half season as a head coach at five and four.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, listen, I've always been impressed by Liam. I had
an opportunity twice last year when he was the offensive
coordinator at Tampa Bay to just get a feel for him.
And right off the bat, you know, it strikes me
about him and what I love about him. And you
hear this so often with offensive guys. He's not the
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offensive genius or guru. It's not about his scheme and
not about how smart he is, even though he is
smart and has a good scheme, but it's about football
principles and he's just a really good football teacher, right
and he really does understand and this is a cliche,
but he does understand that it's about players, not plays,
And to me, that is the hallmark.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Of any good coach.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You know, it's his first year in the National Football League,
he's a head coach.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He's learning. But I really do like his makeup.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I love his leadership style, and I do love that
he's a head coach.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
But he's a teacher.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
First, Jaguars defense giving up thirty three points a game
since Week seven.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
They've got some injuries in the back end of the defense.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right now, they're struggling through the pass rush, his issues
getting home tied for the few of sacks in the NFL.
And this week they face Justin Herbert, who has no
issues with pressure. Even when he is pressured, he seems
to perform. Well, how do you affect Justin Herbert and
this Chargers offense today?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Listen, that's a great question, because you know, I've been
in this business a long time, and I've been a player,
and I've been a part of this league. And usually
when we go into a game and one of our
biggest graphics is this is the ninth or tenth offensive
line combination that they've had this year. That normally means
that they're not a good football team, no matter who's
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playing quarterback, and it's a disaster, right, And so just
the fact that their offensive line is in shambles and
they're down their tackles and they've given up all those
pressures and all those hits and they're still where they are,
you know, at seven and three, and they're still a
legit top five offense and they've been able to manage it.
To me, really really says a lot. Yes they're giving
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up a lot of pressure, Yes they're giving up a
lot of hits, but Justin Herbert has been able to
excel and thrive. And you know when I talked to
their coaching staff and I talked to Greg Roman, and
there's no doubt that they go into every game conscious
of the pressure, conscious of the hits, and they know
maybe they're not going to be as explosive is that,
or dynamic as they could be. They could be the
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number one passing offense in the NFL, but they really
want him to be efficient and get rid of the
football because a healthy Justin Herbert is better than one
that's sitting on the bench. But it really is a
testament to Herbert their coaching staff that they found a
way to win games despite catastrophic injuries to really the
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most important position group on offense.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now to the other quarterback in this game, certainly for
the Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence, and you know, it's a third
offense for him. We're halfway through his first season in
this offense, and there's conversation this week with the head
coach about telling him to let it rip a little
bit more, maybe a little hesitancy in pushing it down
the field. What's your view outside looking in of Trevor
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so far?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well, listen, I think that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
With high expectations comes a high level of scrutiny. And
if you are that guy, that quarterback, and you're paid
as that guy, there's no question that you have to
play better. And you know, there's a lot of quarterbacks
that have had to learn different systems, and you know,
I think that the scrutiny is.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
There should be a higher standard and we should look
at these quarterbacks with a higher standard.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I will say this, as far as.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Letting it rip goes, to me, the biggest hurdle that
any player, regardless of position, has to learn is that concept.
Because if you are second guessing yourself, no matter what
you play. If you're a linebacker, on.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Your reads or whatever it is, you just can't play.
Guys are too good. You need to be confident in
what you see. You have to be decisive in what
you see.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And it's kind of counterintuitive, but you can't play with
fear of the result.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
You really do have to be in a.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Place where you're not consciously making decisions, but you're in thinks.
You're just telling you that it's there and you have
to trust it. If you never learn to trust it
and you're always second guessing, you never know what you're
capable of, and so in those moments when there is
maybe that little bit of indecision, you're not going to
be able to perform.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So I just think it's a lesson.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Especially if you have some built in scars and you've
made some mistakes.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
You know that ability to get rid of those and
just be.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Able to go out there and play and trust what
you see is to me one of the biggest.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Priorities of any player.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
So quarterback you have to make more decisions, you know,
and there's a lot of responsibility, but that's why they
pay those.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Guys no doubt, and then you've got to make decisions
and plays against Derwin James and this Chargers defense today,
Let's just touch on James on the back end and
they're moving them all over the place.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's done it for a long time at a high
level he has.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
He's done it in a number of different defensive systems
as well.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
What I love about Derwin James is it's hard to
be good at everything.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know, most there's very few players that are good
at everything. Most players have a special trait. They do
something very well, and I think Pete Carroll used to
call it. They're uniquely talented in some way, shape or form.
And a lot of times when you try to be everything.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
You never are good at anything, right.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But for Derwin James, he's a big safety who really
you know, early in his career under Gus Bradley, really
excelled in the box, really was a great box safety,
was able to blitz, and then he started moving around,
and then they started playing him at nickel and they
played him at free safety. He truly is one of
the guys that can do it all in affect the game.
It's not a situation where oh James is in the
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deep middle, let's go attack him here. You know, we
got him out of position or he's in the slot.
This year, jesse Mentor is blitzing him more than he's
ever blitzed before. And to me, even though he can
do everything, that's where at its best. I think when
you see Derwin James in the box or in the slot,
you have to be aware because he has that ability
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to make plays and he's just an excellent tackler.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
They're doing a great job with that secondary in general.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Brian Sexton this week with Jaguars kicker Cam.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Little, I mean, you can never really say that there's
a line that's too far, because if you say that,
then another guy is gonna go out there and hit it.
But I mean, you've seen some guys hit even in
the offseason when some guys are on the league are
just hitting their hitting seventy seventy five, like the guys
that have the big legs, like the Aubrey's of the
world debates, those guys are hitting seventy plush yarders in
training and so I mean, you saw Aubrey on what
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was that Monday night football hit one from sixty eight
that could have probably been good for seventy three seventy four.
So there's there's definitely guys that can touch that limit.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Do you ever stand back there and think that is
a long way away? Because I went and stood on
the field after you hit it and thought, man, that's
a long way away.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, in the in the game preseason game against Pittsburgh,
that was a long one. That was the first kick
I've really like stood behind and been like, holy cow,
this is seventy yards away from the uprights. But most
of the time when you go out there, you just
you don't You're peripheral and add to the fans and
the everything that's around you, like the line in front
of you, you can't really like tell that it's that
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far because you're just so dialed in on the spot
and the kick.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
How much of your preparation is on the mental side.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
Oh, I think that's probably what separates an NFL kicker
from a lot of you know, college guys that that
jump mentally knowing you have to do it not only
every time, but seventeen games throughout the season. You know,
It's like golf. Golf is a mentally taxing game, and
your mind can try and play tricks on you sometimes.
But yeah, I think mental preparation probably takes up about
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eighty percent of my you know ability, twenty percent is
talent and you know, hard work and technique and all
that stuff. But a lot of guys can kick a
ball sixty yards and in, but you know, can't do
it every time because mentally they're thinking about things in
their backswing. So I think mentally the mental game is
a big side of kicking for sure.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Physically, how much of it is just your genetics and
how much of it is the actual art of preparing.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Yeah, I think preparation is I've always been a big
believer that like preparation throughout the week leads to success.
I think when I have, you know, my best weeks
of practice and know when I'm hitting the ball well,
and I'm not thinking that's when I usually go out
there and play the best. But even I've had to
learn throughout my NFL career, if you don't have and
even in college career, like if you don't have a
good week of practice, you can't on the flip side,
you can't let that affect your game because at the
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end of the day, we play games on Sundays, we
don't practice to you know, go out there and you know,
the practice isn't the game. The game is the game.
So yeah, I think preparation is a big reason why
I do have confidence in leading up to success.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, who's your caddy?
Speaker 9 (14:34):
You know that guy that that's out there with you deciding,
you know, this is the mark today, here's the wind
and the way that it's coming across the field. Who
is it that you consult with?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
I think Heath is a good Heath and Logan are
both really good assets for that. Heath has been around
the league for so many years now, not only as
a player but as as a coordinator, and so he's
you know, played with great kickers that have had long
careers and obviously he coached Tyler Bass and Buffalo and
you know a lot of good kickers here and so
so he kind of knows my leg and kind of
gauges that based on the wind and stuff like that.
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And then obviously Logan's played here for what is see
in his ninth year here now, so he knows the
win in this stadium, he knows the wind all around everywhere.
So both those guys are great assets for me.
Speaker 9 (15:13):
And why do you suppose it is now all of
a sudden, the guys are just nailing it past sixty five.
I can remember in nineteen ninety eight when Jason Elam
kicked the first record setting field goal in Denver against
the Jaguars, and since then it's just been record after
record after record.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 8 (15:30):
I just think you think about golf swing and the
evolution of the golf swing, and people will be able
to hit it so far now they're starting to learn
how to waste to kick the ball farther. Not only that,
but like the operations are just so good now. I
mean you look at ours so good when like you
look at the sixty eight, all Ross put it directly
over the spot. All Logan had to do is just
sit it down, laces out, and we're going out there
and we're making it.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
And so.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Not only the technique and you know, the ability is evolutionizing,
but the operation is so good now to where guys
just have to go out there and worry about kicking.
And that's the beauty of you know, being here is
all I gotta do is just go worry about kicking
the ball.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I don't got to worry about my operation at all.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Let's just wrap it up with this going into the
stretch run of the season. You've kicked a sixty eight
yard field goal, You've kicked one that sent it into overtime.
We've had long returns by reserve wide receivers to set
up plays, and we've had Parker Washington with a couple
special teams. Seems to be hitting its stride. It's important
time of the year.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, I think that kind of credits Heath and just
the kind of guys first of all, credits Heath, but
not only Heath, but the guys in that room very
meticulous about you know, going into practice week, and you
know that's a big emphasis and a big, big part
of the big.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Part of the game.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
You know, it's the third phase of the game besides offices, defense,
and whenever we can go out there and make an impact.
You know, with those guys in the room that take
their job really seriously on special teams, it can be
a special thing. So it's really cool to know that
we have, you know, guys like you know Ross and
Logan that have been here for six to nine years,
say Ros six or seven and Logan eight or nine,
that are kind of leading that room and they know
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that the standard is a standard. We're can drop alow
that standard. So it's really cool to you know, be
a part of something that matters because you know, special
teams in you know, high school and college may not
matter to a lot of teams, you know they play
the two phases, but here it's a it's a big
part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And continuing the special teams theme, Brian Sexton with teams
coordinator Heath.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
Farewell, Yeah, i mean, these kickers keep getting better every year.
It's it's so impressive, how how talented they are, the
work they put in, it's it's unbelievable. Cam we see
every day. You know, he's one of the hardest workers
on this team. Uh, and so you see the results.
You know, we've seen him do it in practice. So
it's really cool to kind of actually to put it
to a to a game, to kind of for a
display for everybody in the stadium and the and the
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TV to see, to witness what we see all the time.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
You're kind of his caddy right him in the caddy
you kind of know what the wind is doing and
and and and where his spot is on the field.
How do you how do you calculate that when when
you're on the field in the pre game.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
I mean, I think just knowing your guy. I think
that's part of his knowing your guy and then getting
a feel how he's feeling on game day, what the
wind is like, you know, and that's it's a feel
thing on game and so him and I have great conversations,
and it's you know, it starts all week of how
he's feeling, and then it continues throughout warm ups and
throughout the games. You know, I have to check in
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with him as that win changes, maybe in the fourth
quarter or what does that change to his line? So
him and are in constant communication of what I'm seeing,
what I'm feeling, and he's doing the same. And so
between the two of us, we usually come up with
those lines, and you know, it's funny how it works out.
It seems like what our numbers are pretty much almost
exactly every time. We just have a good relationship and
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feel for each other. I know how he's feeling. I
could feel him, you know, I think he can understand
where I'm coming from. And so it's amazing how accurate
we are on those lines. And we trust him. And
that's the biggest thing is when he tells us the
line or we talk to a line. We're sending him
out there with it, with the with the thought he's
gonna make it, and we know he's gonna make it.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Tell you about your return game. Last two games, right,
you get the long one against the Raiders on the
kickoff that was very important to you, and of course
Parker sets the franchise record with his third career putt return.
Tell me about your return game.
Speaker 10 (19:00):
I mean, our returners are unbelievable. You know we have Obviously,
Parker's been fantastic. His ability to change directions make people
miss is spectacular. And I think the guy's blocking, it's
it's it's really cool to kind of see where they've
come from, you know, week one or week two to
where they are now and just blocking for him. They're unbelievable.
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And then, like I said, Bagel, la Quint's been back there,
We've had you know, a bunch of guy we've rotated through.
You know, Diami's been back there. So we've rotated through
a bunch of returners and they've all kind of gave
us a different look and different perspective. Uh, and they've
all been great. So it's been really cool to kind
of work with these guys. But you can feel anytime
Parker gets the ball, and you know, you talk to
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the guys that are out there on the field, they
they believe and they believe anytime we get those pump
returns there's a chance to score. So you could feel
that that, you know, that emotion, and even the sideline
kind of stands up like wait, that something's good about
to happen. So it's a cool thing to be a
part of. I think the guys are really embracing the
return game and like I said, I'm glad to be
a part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And we wrapped the week, of course with pride of
the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. The Jags coming off
a really disappointing loss down in Houston last week. Fred
nineteen point lead, blowing the largest in franchise history. But hey,
guess what, there's still the seventh seed. There's a lot
of important football left here. You got to clean some
things up though, before you move forward.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, JP, you know, making
sure you are operating under a high efficiency mindset, high
efficiency thought process. That's the players, the coaches, everyone alike.
I remember at the end of the game last week,
Coach Cohen, he made a statement, you know, addressing potential
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play call or execution. You know, it could be a
combination of both, especially when you you know, have a
nineteen point lead with you know, fifteen minutes remaining in
a game and you give up you know, twenty six
and lose the game. So a lot of questions, and
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I think a lot of times it all goes back
to one simple muscle, the heart, Like at some point
you gotta display that thing and go out there and fight.
That dog has to come out and ain't no way
you're supposed to give up that many points.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So there are a lot of.
Speaker 11 (21:27):
Questions surrounding these guys. Hopefully they had a solid week
of practice. From what I'm hearing, it was a solid
week of practice. It was a quality week of practice
of work, and they're ready to you know, erase that
taste from a week ago. And typically the best way
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to do it is go and line up against another
opponent and play your hearts out and try to get
a win. So we'll see what that looks like this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Prince Taylor with us, Well, the opponent this week is
really good. The La Chargers are seven to three and
are fighting for the AFC West title. And they've got
the quarterback and some veteran receivers and a running game
and a young tight end. The old Lion's been a
little question. They've had some injuries there, of course, but
even with Justin Herbert getting hit a lot, he's still
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number one in completions and attempts in the league, second
in passing yards. He can run with it too. Where
do you begin with Herbert? And what do you like
about the Chargers quarterback?
Speaker 11 (22:30):
You said it right there, JP. It's just a matter
of executing and taking advantage of it. They've been beat
up across the board with their offensive line. I know
they lost later for the season, and this was several
weeks ago, but they're still finding a way to truck long.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And it's by design.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
It's by having a quarterback who's smart enough to take
advantage of what the defense gives him.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
You know, it's taking his deep shots.
Speaker 11 (22:54):
He has this big veteran og back and Keenan Allen
who recently broke the charges all the time, receiving a
record a week ago.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So he's a deep shot guy. He's their possession. Guy.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
And then when you throw in lad Mo Conkley and
those running backs that you've mentioned, these are our players
that are going to go out there, dependable players. They're
going to go out there and make plays for him.
And he trusts those guys, so they're always on the
same page from what I'm getting from them. And coach Harball,
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you know, he's a high efficiency coach, very high quality coach.
He has great systems. He's always had great systems. So
it starts by just getting after Herbert. You know, pressure.
You know, we started a couple of years ago, different
different time, but same same guy. You know, the tendency
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is there that when he's pressured, he'll give you the ball.
Most quarterbacks will, but Herbert has shown that if you
get after him. Tough guy, big guy, but if you
get after him enough, the pressure will get to them.
Here eventually start throwing the ball over and with his
own defense that the Jags are playing ben but don't break.
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They need more pressure up front, but they need more
sacks up front. They're getting pressure, they're getting to the quarterbacks,
it's just they don't have to sacks to show for it.
And they have to clean that up and if they
can generate pressure, they'll be able to get after after
Herbert and get some turnovers.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And when they get turnovers, they win football games.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Fred, I mean, they have twelve sacks this year. There's
two guys in the league that have eleven solo sacks,
So I mean it is tied for the lowest total
in the league.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And they've tried with five.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They can't get home with four right now, they've tried
with five. I mean, at what point do you start
changing players that are.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Up on game day?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Give younger guys a shot? Like, what else do you
do well as a defensive coordinator, as a head coach
to jump start this pass rush.
Speaker 11 (24:58):
It's gonna be hard to sit down a guy who
you just gave, you know, a brand new extension to
an offseason.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And Josh heines Allen.
Speaker 11 (25:08):
You know, when you talk to Trayvon, he's just a
couple of years removed from being selected number one over all.
So you got your two bookends. You brought in a
big time free agent to shore up the middle. Now again,
they play well in spurts, but the consistency isn't there,
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you know, and then those moments when they do get
sacked shout out to Trayvon. It's followed up by roughing
the passers. So just playing smarter. They they're gonna have
to if they're gonna want to play that good zone
defense from behind. Uh, they're gonna have to get pressure,
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you know. So it may be the rotation, addressing the
rotation where everybody's fresh. You know, Josh heines Allen, he's
playing almost every snap, he's influencing plays. He's playing really well.
It's just that he doesn't have the sacks to show
for it. But the pressure is there, the influences there.
He's feeding the other guys, helping the other guys make plays.
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But they I think the consistency is the bigger concern,
and addressing that by way of rotation, getting some of
those young fresh legs in there at the right moments
can potentially help them turn that around.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Fred Taylor with US Pride of the Jaguars running back
and now on the other side of the Jaguars offense
against this Chargers defensive group that has some veteran players
on the back end, they've got guys up front that
can get after it.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Of course, Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
All these guys have multiple sacks up front, so they
know how to get after the passer. So as a
Jaguars offense, what's the approach today? Is it just kind
of play your own games, trying to run it still
and balance it out like you always kind of want
to do, or do you have something else sleep especially
if Trevor Lawrence they've talked this week Fred about him
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letting it rip in so to speak, down the stretch.
Maybe that's more of a broad mentality than a game
to game thing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
But what do you make of all this on offense?
Speaker 11 (27:16):
I think the mindset is you want to enter the
game with the thought process of running the ball, establishing
and run. There's so much more efficient and their offense
is a little bit more high power when they're able
to run the ball because they can do so many
things off of the run.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You've got play action.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Then you also have screen game that you can implement
play action screen which they've shown.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
To work well. You know, even getting the tight ends
back involved.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
You know, off those actions, you have some boot actions
where the tight ends can seep out until the coverage
late or even crossing routes. And these are the things
that we saw the JAG's doing well the first couple
of weeks of the season, and then you take pressure
off the offensive line, who has struggle.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
We could go versus the Texans.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
The Neil Hunter took full advantage of the offensive line
and created pressures at the right time that put Houston
in position to come back and win that game.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So if you're running the ball, you're allowing your.
Speaker 11 (28:25):
Defense and opportunity to rest up so you can avoid
those moments that happened a week ago. If you're running
the ball, you're taking pressure off your offensive line. You
don't give guys like Khalil Mack an opportunity to get
excited and get after the quarterback. He isn't as great
of a player as he was when he first came
in the league, but he still has a lot of tank.
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He a lot in his tank. He's a savvyvet. And
on the back end, Derwin James, he's their coverage leader.
He's gonna blitch you. Just a great player, potential Hall
of famer in my in Derwin one of their best
players on the team. So you want to influence him
as well in the run game because he's gonna be active.
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So run the ball, create some play action opportunities for yourself.
Get back to the screen game, get the tight ends involved,
and Trevor take advantage of the checkdowns, you know, get
it out to the batch early once they're at their spots.
Allow the linebackers to come up and coverage to want
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to now defend the checkdown game, and after that play action,
have them draw the linebackers in. Then throw the ball
behind them with the crossing route game in the pass
game to the receivers and hopefully they catch the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And then that's the formula for success.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Fred Taylor with US last meeting between the Jags and
Chargers the AFC Wild Card playoff game after the twenty
twenty two season, in which the Jaguars down twenty seven
to nothing after four first half interceptions from Trevor Lawrence,
and then they threw four touchdown passes and the Jaguars
won the game on the last second field goal. There's
a handful of the guys still there for the Chargers,
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certainly handful of guys still there for the Jacks so
long ago. But let's not get down twenty seven nothing
this week.
Speaker 11 (30:18):
Well, you know, it doesn't it doesn't seem like it
was so long ago. Maybe two some Jags fans. It
seemed like a turn a year ago because we hadn't
been to the playoffs and quite some time. But I
don't know, man, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
gonna bring a pivot for the guy. So when you're
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not doing what you're supposed to do, just pivot right
and you turn things around.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
JP.
Speaker 11 (30:45):
So being down twenty seven zero would be tough. Yes,
you can't do that. It's usually tough. So we had
the greatest comeback against you know, a week ago. We
don't want to have the greatest come four you know,
this week because we already had that in twenty twenty two.
I doubt it'll be that. This is a much better
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team across the board, and I think based on how
the game went a week ago, they'll come back home,
turn things around and get this win in front of
the home team, in front of the fans.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Save that pivot for the fourth quarter this time. Will
you hand them out late? Hand them out late? Well,
they you know they know where to find me.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
I'm actually looking for Mark Lamping so we can cut
a deal so I can have it in this stadium.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
How about that everybody can get.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It best wishes on that good luck to your.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Fan and I just had to pitch it out there.
It's vivid.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
We'll talk to you and both gave friend.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Appreciate you JP.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The Jaguars host the Chargers Sunday at one o'clock. Enjoy
the game.
Time for our countdown to kick off interviews for Week eleven,
JP Shadwick with you ahead of the Chargers Jaguars match up,
delivered by CSX. We start this week with CBS Sports
Senior writer Pete Prisco, each week visiting with Mike Dempse.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, it's something I've been hoping and preaching he needs
to do for a while. I just think he plays
better when he turns it loose. And it's almost like
these he's not alone in this league anymore, Mike. I mean,
you look at the completion percentages around the league. They're
higher than they've ever been, in large part because people
don't turn it loose. They're ready to take the checkdown.
And he's guilty of that. We've seen it many, many,
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many times this season where he's passed on the big
throw down the field to take the easy throw and
so turn it loose, go have fun. And I said
this on Monday, I said, what he should do is
what they should do is put on the tape of
the second half of the game against the last time
he played the Chargers, you know, in the playoffs, and say, hey,
look at this, this is when you turned it loose
because you had to turn it loose or go play
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like that, and I think they'll ultimately get to that.
The problem is that, you know, the weapons down the
field haven't exactly been playing at a great level either.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's a great way to look at it, right, Like,
do you think any NFL coach has ever gone into
a game telling us quarterback, hey, let's approach just like
we're down seventeen, right, Like, let's go out and play
like your hair's on fire. I think they're more conservative
by nature, but you're right somehow you got to get
yourself in that mindset that it's out there for me
and I just have to go take it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, And you know, we always have the old adage
it's built in still from way back in yesteryear. If
you throw the football, three things can happen in two
of them are bad. Right, that's not the case. I
mean you can also you know, you run the ball
and you have a long time consuming drive and you
end up getting a field goal. Is that a better
situation than getting a seventy yard touchdown pass down the sideline?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Absolutely not. And I think we've gotten too caught up
in this. You know, all these defenses play off coverage now,
and so everybody's afraid to take the big shot. Well,
there's ways to beat those the coverages with the big shot.
You just got to figure it out. I don't think
the offensive coaches have been aggressive and enough, aggressive enough,
not just in Jacksonville, but every taking their shots down
the field.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Pete, you've been around covering this league for a long
time as well as anybody. And when teams get to Tuesday,
they start talking about how we got to look ahead
the next week, we can't let it impact us. How
easy is that to do or how difficult in this
circumstance where you do blow a nineteen point lead and
for the first time in franchise history, and you lose
in the fourth quarter in the fashion they did. How
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well positioned is this Jaguar team mentally to bounce back?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
In your opinion, Well, it's going to test Liam Cone again.
I mean, and he's done a nice job of handling
himself during the week. But I'm a big believer in
once you get out on the field and get hit
in the mouth the next week, that game's gone. Now
you might carry it over into the Wednesday and you're
thinking about it and maybe even in a Thursday. But
then I think you put it behind you and you
realize what you have to do, and then when you
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get out of the field and the guy across from
you puts a four ONM in your mouth, you're not
going to sit there and say, oh, well, what happened
last week? Maybe I'm not reacting to test them up.
So I think that stuff kind of gets overrated because
it is a week to week league, and I think
guys do a great job of putting it behind them.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
A typical team would look at the charges and go, Wow,
they're playing without their starting tackles, your interior, the offensive
line has had issues. We are going to feast in
the pass rush. But it's a very similar situation to
what Houston had last week. Are the Jags going to
be able to impact Justin Herbert with their pass rush today?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
They better, And you know we saw that last week.
That's a bad offensive line and they didn't get much pressure.
And it's a lot of money invested in that defensive line,
a lot of assets invested in that defensive line to
not get pressure. So I mean, if I were on
that team right now, I would be calling out the
pass rushers I'd call out Josh heinz Allen and he
kind of did. This week, Liam Cohen, I'd call out
Trayvon Walker. I mean, your first overall pick and you
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don't do anything. And I know he had to hand injury,
but you've got to be more aggressive getting up the field.
You know, even the fact where he got called back
for the personal foul, the guy tried to cut them.
It wasn't like he won tried to cut him and
miss them. And so I think this is a week
they have to be able to pressure justin Herbert, it's
going to be a long day, Pete.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
For many years we've looked at this team and said, man,
why can't they cover a tight end? And over the
last few weeks it's kind of been that case. Again.
I know they have a bunch of injuries in the secondary.
You're not getting pressure, so you know, guys have to
cover longer. But a Rondee Gatson junior, maybe not a
household name, very good young player in his rookie season
making an impact. How dangerous is he to the Jaguars
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defense today?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, he's definitely dangerous because he's you know, he's a
formal wide receiver's blown up to a tight end. So
he gives you mismatchup problems. And you know, we thought
last week we saw the touchdown in the back of
the end zone to the tight end and how did
that happen? Well, he had a week and a day
to throw the football. I mean, if you're going to
have a week in a day to throw the football,
you're going to beat those those safeties. And it's a
little bit of a you know, liability in that defense.
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Winger can't run with anybody and that's a problem, and
Johnson blows assignments. That's a problem. So you have two
safeties that you can't rely on. And I think when
you want to try and get aggressive and blitz, you're
going to leave those safeties in some one on one
situations and that's problematic. So it's like you're damned if
you do and you're damned if you don't. And it's
tough to call defense when you don't have a great
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pass rush and you have safeties who give up big plays.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
All right, all that being said, how do you see
it going today?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I think the Chargers win the game. I just they
could prove me wrong by rushing the passer. But if
you don't rush justin Herbert, He's gonna sit back and
carve you to shreds. And I just think what we
saw from the Chargers defense last week was impressive. I
know it's a short, you know, short turnaround for them
on the East Coast, but I just think Herbert's going
to do enough to win the game.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I caught up with CBS sports analyst Adam Marcalletto Friday
first overall ten thousand foot view of Liam Cohen's first
half season as a head coach at five and four.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, listen, I've always been impressed by Liam. I had
an opportunity twice last year when he was the offensive
coordinator at Tampa Bay to just get a feel for him.
And right off the bat, you know, it strikes me
about him and what I love about him. And you
hear this so often with offensive guys. He's not the
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offensive genius or guru. It's not about his scheme and
not about how smart he is, even though he is
smart and has a good scheme, but it's about football
principles and he's just a really good football teacher, right
and he really does understand and this is a cliche,
but he does understand that it's about players, not plays,
And to me, that is the hallmark.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Of any good coach.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You know, it's his first year in the National Football League,
he's a head coach.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He's learning. But I really do like his makeup.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I love his leadership style, and I do love that
he's a head coach.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
But he's a teacher.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
First, Jaguars defense giving up thirty three points a game
since Week seven.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
They've got some injuries in the back end of the defense.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Right now, they're struggling through the pass rush, his issues
getting home tied for the few of sacks in the NFL.
And this week they face Justin Herbert, who has no
issues with pressure. Even when he is pressured, he seems
to perform. Well, how do you affect Justin Herbert and
this Chargers offense today?
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Listen, that's a great question, because you know, I've been
in this business a long time, and I've been a player,
and I've been a part of this league. And usually
when we go into a game and one of our
biggest graphics is this is the ninth or tenth offensive
line combination that they've had this year. That normally means
that they're not a good football team, no matter who's
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playing quarterback, and it's a disaster, right, And so just
the fact that their offensive line is in shambles and
they're down their tackles and they've given up all those
pressures and all those hits and they're still where they are,
you know, at seven and three, and they're still a
legit top five offense and they've been able to manage it.
To me, really really says a lot. Yes they're giving
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up a lot of pressure, Yes they're giving up a
lot of hits, but Justin Herbert has been able to
excel and thrive. And you know when I talked to
their coaching staff and I talked to Greg Roman, and
there's no doubt that they go into every game conscious
of the pressure, conscious of the hits, and they know
maybe they're not going to be as explosive is that,
or dynamic as they could be. They could be the
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number one passing offense in the NFL, but they really
want him to be efficient and get rid of the
football because a healthy Justin Herbert is better than one
that's sitting on the bench. But it really is a
testament to Herbert their coaching staff that they found a
way to win games despite catastrophic injuries to really the
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most important position group on offense.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now to the other quarterback in this game, certainly for
the Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence, and you know, it's a third
offense for him. We're halfway through his first season in
this offense, and there's conversation this week with the head
coach about telling him to let it rip a little
bit more, maybe a little hesitancy in pushing it down
the field. What's your view outside looking in of Trevor
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so far?
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well, listen, I think that.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
With high expectations comes a high level of scrutiny. And
if you are that guy, that quarterback, and you're paid
as that guy, there's no question that you have to
play better. And you know, there's a lot of quarterbacks
that have had to learn different systems, and you know,
I think that the scrutiny is.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
There should be a higher standard and we should look
at these quarterbacks with a higher standard.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I will say this, as far as.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Letting it rip goes, to me, the biggest hurdle that
any player, regardless of position, has to learn is that concept.
Because if you are second guessing yourself, no matter what
you play. If you're a linebacker, on.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Your reads or whatever it is, you just can't play.
Guys are too good. You need to be confident in
what you see. You have to be decisive in what
you see.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And it's kind of counterintuitive, but you can't play with
fear of the result.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
You really do have to be in a.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Place where you're not consciously making decisions, but you're in thinks.
You're just telling you that it's there and you have
to trust it. If you never learn to trust it
and you're always second guessing, you never know what you're
capable of, and so in those moments when there is
maybe that little bit of indecision, you're not going to
be able to perform.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
So I just think it's a lesson.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Especially if you have some built in scars and you've
made some mistakes.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
You know that ability to get rid of those and
just be.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Able to go out there and play and trust what
you see is to me one of the biggest.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Priorities of any player.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
So quarterback you have to make more decisions, you know,
and there's a lot of responsibility, but that's why they
pay those.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Guys no doubt, and then you've got to make decisions
and plays against Derwin James and this Chargers defense today,
Let's just touch on James on the back end and
they're moving them all over the place.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
He's done it for a long time at a high
level he has.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
He's done it in a number of different defensive systems
as well.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
What I love about Derwin James is it's hard to
be good at everything.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
You know, most there's very few players that are good
at everything. Most players have a special trait. They do
something very well, and I think Pete Carroll used to
call it. They're uniquely talented in some way, shape or form.
And a lot of times when you try to be everything.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
You never are good at anything, right.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
But for Derwin James, he's a big safety who really
you know, early in his career under Gus Bradley, really
excelled in the box, really was a great box safety,
was able to blitz, and then he started moving around,
and then they started playing him at nickel and they
played him at free safety. He truly is one of
the guys that can do it all in affect the game.
It's not a situation where oh James is in the
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deep middle, let's go attack him here. You know, we
got him out of position or he's in the slot.
This year, jesse Mentor is blitzing him more than he's
ever blitzed before. And to me, even though he can
do everything, that's where at its best. I think when
you see Derwin James in the box or in the slot,
you have to be aware because he has that ability
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to make plays and he's just an excellent tackler.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
They're doing a great job with that secondary in general.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Brian Sexton this week with Jaguars kicker Cam.
Speaker 8 (12:12):
Little, I mean, you can never really say that there's
a line that's too far, because if you say that,
then another guy is gonna go out there and hit it.
But I mean, you've seen some guys hit even in
the offseason when some guys are on the league are
just hitting their hitting seventy seventy five, like the guys
that have the big legs, like the Aubrey's of the
world debates, those guys are hitting seventy plush yarders in
training and so I mean, you saw Aubrey on what
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was that Monday night football hit one from sixty eight
that could have probably been good for seventy three seventy four.
So there's there's definitely guys that can touch that limit.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Do you ever stand back there and think that is
a long way away? Because I went and stood on
the field after you hit it and thought, man, that's
a long way away.
Speaker 8 (12:48):
Yeah, in the in the game preseason game against Pittsburgh,
that was a long one. That was the first kick
I've really like stood behind and been like, holy cow,
this is seventy yards away from the uprights. But most
of the time when you go out there, you just
you don't You're peripheral and add to the fans and
the everything that's around you, like the line in front
of you, you can't really like tell that it's that
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far because you're just so dialed in on the spot
and the kick.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
How much of your preparation is on the mental side.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
Oh, I think that's probably what separates an NFL kicker
from a lot of you know, college guys that that
jump mentally knowing you have to do it not only
every time, but seventeen games throughout the season. You know,
It's like golf. Golf is a mentally taxing game, and
your mind can try and play tricks on you sometimes.
But yeah, I think mental preparation probably takes up about
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eighty percent of my you know ability, twenty percent is
talent and you know, hard work and technique and all
that stuff. But a lot of guys can kick a
ball sixty yards and in, but you know, can't do
it every time because mentally they're thinking about things in
their backswing. So I think mentally the mental game is
a big side of kicking for sure.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
Physically, how much of it is just your genetics and
how much of it is the actual art of preparing.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
Yeah, I think preparation is I've always been a big
believer that like preparation throughout the week leads to success.
I think when I have, you know, my best weeks
of practice and know when I'm hitting the ball well,
and I'm not thinking that's when I usually go out
there and play the best. But even I've had to
learn throughout my NFL career, if you don't have and
even in college career, like if you don't have a
good week of practice, you can't on the flip side,
you can't let that affect your game because at the
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end of the day, we play games on Sundays, we
don't practice to you know, go out there and you know,
the practice isn't the game. The game is the game.
So yeah, I think preparation is a big reason why
I do have confidence in leading up to success.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, who's your caddy?
Speaker 9 (14:34):
You know that guy that that's out there with you deciding,
you know, this is the mark today, here's the wind
and the way that it's coming across the field. Who
is it that you consult with?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (14:43):
I think Heath is a good Heath and Logan are
both really good assets for that. Heath has been around
the league for so many years now, not only as
a player but as as a coordinator, and so he's
you know, played with great kickers that have had long
careers and obviously he coached Tyler Bass and Buffalo and
you know a lot of good kickers here and so
so he kind of knows my leg and kind of
gauges that based on the wind and stuff like that.
(15:03):
And then obviously Logan's played here for what is see
in his ninth year here now, so he knows the
win in this stadium, he knows the wind all around everywhere.
So both those guys are great assets for me.
Speaker 9 (15:13):
And why do you suppose it is now all of
a sudden, the guys are just nailing it past sixty five.
I can remember in nineteen ninety eight when Jason Elam
kicked the first record setting field goal in Denver against
the Jaguars, and since then it's just been record after
record after record.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 8 (15:30):
I just think you think about golf swing and the
evolution of the golf swing, and people will be able
to hit it so far now they're starting to learn
how to waste to kick the ball farther. Not only that,
but like the operations are just so good now. I
mean you look at ours so good when like you
look at the sixty eight, all Ross put it directly
over the spot. All Logan had to do is just
sit it down, laces out, and we're going out there
and we're making it.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
And so.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Not only the technique and you know, the ability is evolutionizing,
but the operation is so good now to where guys
just have to go out there and worry about kicking.
And that's the beauty of you know, being here is
all I gotta do is just go worry about kicking
the ball.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I don't got to worry about my operation at all.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Let's just wrap it up with this going into the
stretch run of the season. You've kicked a sixty eight
yard field goal, You've kicked one that sent it into overtime.
We've had long returns by reserve wide receivers to set
up plays, and we've had Parker Washington with a couple
special teams. Seems to be hitting its stride. It's important
time of the year.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, I think that kind of credits Heath and just
the kind of guys first of all, credits Heath, but
not only Heath, but the guys in that room very
meticulous about you know, going into practice week, and you
know that's a big emphasis and a big, big part
of the big.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Part of the game.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
You know, it's the third phase of the game besides offices, defense,
and whenever we can go out there and make an impact.
You know, with those guys in the room that take
their job really seriously on special teams, it can be
a special thing. So it's really cool to know that
we have, you know, guys like you know Ross and
Logan that have been here for six to nine years,
say Ros six or seven and Logan eight or nine,
that are kind of leading that room and they know
(16:58):
that the standard is a standard. We're can drop alow
that standard. So it's really cool to you know, be
a part of something that matters because you know, special
teams in you know, high school and college may not
matter to a lot of teams, you know they play
the two phases, but here it's a it's a big
part of it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And continuing the special teams theme, Brian Sexton with teams
coordinator Heath.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
Farewell, Yeah, i mean, these kickers keep getting better every year.
It's it's so impressive, how how talented they are, the
work they put in, it's it's unbelievable. Cam we see
every day. You know, he's one of the hardest workers
on this team. Uh, and so you see the results.
You know, we've seen him do it in practice. So
it's really cool to kind of actually to put it
to a to a game, to kind of for a
display for everybody in the stadium and the and the
(17:36):
TV to see, to witness what we see all the time.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
You're kind of his caddy right him in the caddy
you kind of know what the wind is doing and
and and and where his spot is on the field.
How do you how do you calculate that when when
you're on the field in the pre game.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
I mean, I think just knowing your guy. I think
that's part of his knowing your guy and then getting
a feel how he's feeling on game day, what the
wind is like, you know, and that's it's a feel
thing on game and so him and I have great conversations,
and it's you know, it starts all week of how
he's feeling, and then it continues throughout warm ups and
throughout the games. You know, I have to check in
(18:10):
with him as that win changes, maybe in the fourth
quarter or what does that change to his line? So
him and are in constant communication of what I'm seeing,
what I'm feeling, and he's doing the same. And so
between the two of us, we usually come up with
those lines, and you know, it's funny how it works out.
It seems like what our numbers are pretty much almost
exactly every time. We just have a good relationship and
(18:30):
feel for each other. I know how he's feeling. I
could feel him, you know, I think he can understand
where I'm coming from. And so it's amazing how accurate
we are on those lines. And we trust him. And
that's the biggest thing is when he tells us the
line or we talk to a line. We're sending him
out there with it, with the with the thought he's
gonna make it, and we know he's gonna make it.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Tell you about your return game. Last two games, right,
you get the long one against the Raiders on the
kickoff that was very important to you, and of course
Parker sets the franchise record with his third career putt return.
Tell me about your return game.
Speaker 10 (19:00):
I mean, our returners are unbelievable. You know we have Obviously,
Parker's been fantastic. His ability to change directions make people
miss is spectacular. And I think the guy's blocking, it's
it's it's really cool to kind of see where they've
come from, you know, week one or week two to
where they are now and just blocking for him. They're unbelievable.
(19:22):
And then, like I said, Bagel, la Quint's been back there,
We've had you know, a bunch of guy we've rotated through.
You know, Diami's been back there. So we've rotated through
a bunch of returners and they've all kind of gave
us a different look and different perspective. Uh, and they've
all been great. So it's been really cool to kind
of work with these guys. But you can feel anytime
Parker gets the ball, and you know, you talk to
(19:43):
the guys that are out there on the field, they
they believe and they believe anytime we get those pump
returns there's a chance to score. So you could feel
that that, you know, that emotion, and even the sideline
kind of stands up like wait, that something's good about
to happen. So it's a cool thing to be a
part of. I think the guys are really embracing the
return game and like I said, I'm glad to be
a part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
And we wrapped the week, of course with pride of
the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. The Jags coming off
a really disappointing loss down in Houston last week. Fred
nineteen point lead, blowing the largest in franchise history. But hey,
guess what, there's still the seventh seed. There's a lot
of important football left here. You got to clean some
things up though, before you move forward.
Speaker 11 (20:24):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, JP, you know, making
sure you are operating under a high efficiency mindset, high
efficiency thought process. That's the players, the coaches, everyone alike.
I remember at the end of the game last week,
Coach Cohen, he made a statement, you know, addressing potential
(20:49):
play call or execution. You know, it could be a
combination of both, especially when you you know, have a
nineteen point lead with you know, fifteen minutes remaining in
a game and you give up you know, twenty six
and lose the game. So a lot of questions, and
(21:09):
I think a lot of times it all goes back
to one simple muscle, the heart, Like at some point
you gotta display that thing and go out there and fight.
That dog has to come out and ain't no way
you're supposed to give up that many points.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So there are a lot of.
Speaker 11 (21:27):
Questions surrounding these guys. Hopefully they had a solid week
of practice. From what I'm hearing, it was a solid
week of practice. It was a quality week of practice
of work, and they're ready to you know, erase that
taste from a week ago. And typically the best way
(21:47):
to do it is go and line up against another
opponent and play your hearts out and try to get
a win. So we'll see what that looks like this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Prince Taylor with us, Well, the opponent this week is
really good. The La Chargers are seven to three and
are fighting for the AFC West title. And they've got
the quarterback and some veteran receivers and a running game
and a young tight end. The old Lion's been a
little question. They've had some injuries there, of course, but
even with Justin Herbert getting hit a lot, he's still
(22:20):
number one in completions and attempts in the league, second
in passing yards. He can run with it too. Where
do you begin with Herbert? And what do you like
about the Chargers quarterback?
Speaker 11 (22:30):
You said it right there, JP. It's just a matter
of executing and taking advantage of it. They've been beat
up across the board with their offensive line. I know
they lost later for the season, and this was several
weeks ago, but they're still finding a way to truck long.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And it's by design.
Speaker 11 (22:47):
It's by having a quarterback who's smart enough to take
advantage of what the defense gives him.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
You know, it's taking his deep shots.
Speaker 11 (22:54):
He has this big veteran og back and Keenan Allen
who recently broke the charges all the time, receiving a
record a week ago.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So he's a deep shot guy. He's their possession. Guy.
Speaker 11 (23:07):
And then when you throw in lad Mo Conkley and
those running backs that you've mentioned, these are our players
that are going to go out there, dependable players. They're
going to go out there and make plays for him.
And he trusts those guys, so they're always on the
same page from what I'm getting from them. And coach Harball,
(23:28):
you know, he's a high efficiency coach, very high quality coach.
He has great systems. He's always had great systems. So
it starts by just getting after Herbert. You know, pressure.
You know, we started a couple of years ago, different
different time, but same same guy. You know, the tendency
(23:49):
is there that when he's pressured, he'll give you the ball.
Most quarterbacks will, but Herbert has shown that if you
get after him. Tough guy, big guy, but if you
get after him enough, the pressure will get to them.
Here eventually start throwing the ball over and with his
own defense that the Jags are playing ben but don't break.
(24:09):
They need more pressure up front, but they need more
sacks up front. They're getting pressure, they're getting to the quarterbacks,
it's just they don't have to sacks to show for it.
And they have to clean that up and if they
can generate pressure, they'll be able to get after after
Herbert and get some turnovers.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
And when they get turnovers, they win football games.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Fred, I mean, they have twelve sacks this year. There's
two guys in the league that have eleven solo sacks,
So I mean it is tied for the lowest total
in the league.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
And they've tried with five.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They can't get home with four right now, they've tried
with five. I mean, at what point do you start
changing players that are.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
Up on game day?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Give younger guys a shot? Like, what else do you
do well as a defensive coordinator, as a head coach
to jump start this pass rush.
Speaker 11 (24:58):
It's gonna be hard to sit down a guy who
you just gave, you know, a brand new extension to
an offseason.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
And Josh heines Allen.
Speaker 11 (25:08):
You know, when you talk to Trayvon, he's just a
couple of years removed from being selected number one over all.
So you got your two bookends. You brought in a
big time free agent to shore up the middle. Now again,
they play well in spurts, but the consistency isn't there,
(25:29):
you know, and then those moments when they do get
sacked shout out to Trayvon. It's followed up by roughing
the passers. So just playing smarter. They they're gonna have
to if they're gonna want to play that good zone
defense from behind. Uh, they're gonna have to get pressure,
(25:50):
you know. So it may be the rotation, addressing the
rotation where everybody's fresh. You know, Josh heines Allen, he's
playing almost every snap, he's influencing plays. He's playing really well.
It's just that he doesn't have the sacks to show
for it. But the pressure is there, the influences there.
He's feeding the other guys, helping the other guys make plays.
(26:13):
But they I think the consistency is the bigger concern,
and addressing that by way of rotation, getting some of
those young fresh legs in there at the right moments
can potentially help them turn that around.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Fred Taylor with US Pride of the Jaguars running back
and now on the other side of the Jaguars offense
against this Chargers defensive group that has some veteran players
on the back end, they've got guys up front that
can get after it.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Of course, Khalil Mack.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
All these guys have multiple sacks up front, so they
know how to get after the passer. So as a
Jaguars offense, what's the approach today? Is it just kind
of play your own games, trying to run it still
and balance it out like you always kind of want
to do, or do you have something else sleep especially
if Trevor Lawrence they've talked this week Fred about him
(27:05):
letting it rip in so to speak, down the stretch.
Maybe that's more of a broad mentality than a game
to game thing.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
But what do you make of all this on offense?
Speaker 11 (27:16):
I think the mindset is you want to enter the
game with the thought process of running the ball, establishing
and run. There's so much more efficient and their offense
is a little bit more high power when they're able
to run the ball because they can do so many
things off of the run.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You've got play action.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
Then you also have screen game that you can implement
play action screen which they've shown.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
To work well. You know, even getting the tight ends
back involved.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
You know, off those actions, you have some boot actions
where the tight ends can seep out until the coverage
late or even crossing routes. And these are the things
that we saw the JAG's doing well the first couple
of weeks of the season, and then you take pressure
off the offensive line, who has struggle.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
We could go versus the Texans.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
The Neil Hunter took full advantage of the offensive line
and created pressures at the right time that put Houston
in position to come back and win that game.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So if you're running the ball, you're allowing your.
Speaker 11 (28:25):
Defense and opportunity to rest up so you can avoid
those moments that happened a week ago. If you're running
the ball, you're taking pressure off your offensive line. You
don't give guys like Khalil Mack an opportunity to get
excited and get after the quarterback. He isn't as great
of a player as he was when he first came
in the league, but he still has a lot of tank.
(28:47):
He a lot in his tank. He's a savvyvet. And
on the back end, Derwin James, he's their coverage leader.
He's gonna blitch you. Just a great player, potential Hall
of famer in my in Derwin one of their best
players on the team. So you want to influence him
as well in the run game because he's gonna be active.
(29:09):
So run the ball, create some play action opportunities for yourself.
Get back to the screen game, get the tight ends involved,
and Trevor take advantage of the checkdowns, you know, get
it out to the batch early once they're at their spots.
Allow the linebackers to come up and coverage to want
(29:32):
to now defend the checkdown game, and after that play action,
have them draw the linebackers in. Then throw the ball
behind them with the crossing route game in the pass
game to the receivers and hopefully they catch the ball.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
And then that's the formula for success.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Fred Taylor with US last meeting between the Jags and
Chargers the AFC Wild Card playoff game after the twenty
twenty two season, in which the Jaguars down twenty seven
to nothing after four first half interceptions from Trevor Lawrence,
and then they threw four touchdown passes and the Jaguars
won the game on the last second field goal. There's
a handful of the guys still there for the Chargers,
(30:12):
certainly handful of guys still there for the Jacks so
long ago. But let's not get down twenty seven nothing
this week.
Speaker 11 (30:18):
Well, you know, it doesn't it doesn't seem like it
was so long ago. Maybe two some Jags fans. It
seemed like a turn a year ago because we hadn't
been to the playoffs and quite some time. But I
don't know, man, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm
gonna bring a pivot for the guy. So when you're
(30:39):
not doing what you're supposed to do, just pivot right
and you turn things around.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
JP.
Speaker 11 (30:45):
So being down twenty seven zero would be tough. Yes,
you can't do that. It's usually tough. So we had
the greatest comeback against you know, a week ago. We
don't want to have the greatest come four you know,
this week because we already had that in twenty twenty two.
I doubt it'll be that. This is a much better
(31:07):
team across the board, and I think based on how
the game went a week ago, they'll come back home,
turn things around and get this win in front of
the home team, in front of the fans.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Save that pivot for the fourth quarter this time. Will
you hand them out late? Hand them out late? Well,
they you know they know where to find me.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
I'm actually looking for Mark Lamping so we can cut
a deal so I can have it in this stadium.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
How about that everybody can get.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It best wishes on that good luck to your.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Fan and I just had to pitch it out there.
It's vivid.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
We'll talk to you and both gave friend.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Appreciate you JP.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The Jaguars host the Chargers Sunday at one o'clock. Enjoy
the game.
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