November 21, 2025 • 29 mins
J.P. Shadrick and Brian Sexton catch up with former Jaguars RB Fred Taylor, CBS play-by-play Spero Dedes, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, DT Arik Armstead and Jaguars offensive line coach Shaun Jarrett. The group discusses the upcoming matchup against the Cardinals, strong o-line performance vs. Chargers, playing against Calais Campbell and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've arrived at Week twelve.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shadwick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews
ahead of the Jaguars and the Cardinals. Let's start this
week with the Jaguars offensive line coach Son Seret with
Brian Sexton after a dominant performance last week.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh man, I mean I've been in this league, you know,
coming on a lot of years, and that's what you hunt.
You know, you sit there, you preach it as a
coach to the players, saying you can take over a
game running the ball, and you know they hear it.
It's just not giving it lip service.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Our coordinator, which is our head coach, really took it
to heart and he just kept calling those runs.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Man, is it the personality of this team to run first?
It's a quarterback driven league.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
But when I talk to Robert Hansey, when I see
how interchangeable some of the parts that you've put together
are when they get in there, it sures seems like
this is a run first team.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You know, a lot of teams want to talk about identity,
and that's something we talk about. We want to be
the kind of team that strikes first, you know, and
strikes hard. You know, it's just one of those deals.
And you know, we have no problem with running the
ball and run it again and then run it again.
That's the kind team we want to be.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You've had to do a lot of different things. I mean,
Ezra Cleveland, do I think he's played very well? Has
to miss a game. You plug a guy in and
he goes, Anthon Harrison can't play. Plug Cole van Landon
and it goes, how difficult is it to build that
sort of cohesiveness no matter who you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, that's hats off to those guys, those young guys.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know, you know, Cole van Landon did a hell
of a job. You know, he didn't blink a bit.
You know, he went in and played guard and then
you know, next week we said, hey, man, we need
you to play tackle. He's played the jumbo tight end,
he's done all three positions. You know, I tipped my
hat to him. There's a guy that's showing what he's worth,
you know, and he did it at a high level
at all three positions. And we appreciate that. And that's
what the expectation in the room is. You know, we
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want guys that can come in and play multiple positions.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
A bunch of guys on the defensive side talked about
playing angry last week. If you can just go back
to that week between Houston and Los Angeles, what was
the mindset of your team, because that was a resounding
win last week, what was the mindset? And then how
do you replicate that after a win as opposed to
a law.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, at the end of the day, it's the standard.
It's been set, you know, the head coach is set
the standard of saying, you know, hey, we got to finish,
you know, and we didn't finish against the Texans. And
you know, we made a big point of that during
the week. We did it at practice, you know, in
our meetings everything, you know, that was emphasized, you know,
and those guys took it to heart, you know, and
they didn't let up. You know, it's just one of
those deals. And even in the game, they were still
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fired up about you know, let's run the ball more,
let's do this, and you know, they really took it
to the heart and finished.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
At this time, it's probably easier to do after a
loss than a win. So how do you, as the
offensive line coach keep that mentality on finish in a
week where you win thirty five to six.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well that once again, that goes to them. You know,
I can sit there and I can give it lip service,
but the end of the day, they're the ones that's
going to drive it, you know. And you know, we
had this conversation the beginning of the year. We're going
to go as the old line goes, you know, And
it's and that's any NFL team, lit's sens breal. If
you've got problems on the line, you got problems and
people know it shows real fast.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Do you have an appreciation for number ninety three in Arizona?
Kala As Campbell is a guy who's been playing, I
mean a long time.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
How difficult is he to defend?
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Man, he has been around a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like you said, I can remember my days and with
the Steelers and him over at the Ravens, and you know,
an eighteen year guy. You know, it's unbelievable, you know,
and he's thirty nine or thirty eight years old, and
it's just like I'm sitting there thinking, to man, I
know how I felt at thirty eight, thirty nine. There's
no way I could have done this you know, you know,
hats off to him. There's a guy that's still doing
it at a high level and we you know it's
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gonna be a tough week for our guys inside and
they know it. And just the type of player he is, I've.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Been a final thought.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
You're in your first year here in this program, six
and four off to a great start. Robert Hainsey's here
in his first year coming over from Tampa to help
instill the system that Liam brought with him. How how
strong is the relationship that you've developed with Robert and
how valuable is he to you as the offensive line coach?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh, he's He's priceless to us man, he's the he's
our field general, you know, and you know it's the
idea of him being able to communicate not only with
the guys in the room, but with other positions, and
everybody looks to him for answers, you know, and you know,
even me sometimes I got to realize how he's playing
a certain way and how he sees things, you know,
and that's just how it is, you know. But he's
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done an unbelievable job and that's somebody you know that's
going to be here for a long time with us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Spirouddas has the call of the game again this week
on the NFL on CBS. It's the second of three
straight Jags games. His crew will call the NFL on
CBS back out of this week the Jaguars and the
Cardinals coming up.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Spirou Addas also had the call of the Chargers Jaguars
game last week.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Great to see you against Bureau and I don't know
how many people sold that kind of performance coming, but
it tells you a lot about maybe where this team's
going down the stretch.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I thought it was a significant moment for Liam Cohen
and the staff. I thought it was a significant moment
for the team because, as you know, when you have
an experience or traumatic experience the way they had the
week before against the Texans, that next game is so
critical and I think so often tells you about the
character and the makeup of a team, and so to
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have the performance that they did against the Chargers team
JP that came in confident, the way that they were playing,
they just knocked off for a confident Pittsburgh team.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The week before.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I thought it says a lot about the team. I
thought it was a big moment for Liam his message
I think is clearly resonating. That's always an encouraging sign
for a team that's trying to climb the ranks and
as send the way that they are, And I just thought, overall,
if I'm a Jacks fan, really encouraging sign because I
think that truly was the significant psychological hurdle that they
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that they cleared on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, the Jaguars defense, I mean, put together an incredible
performance against one.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Of the top offenses in football.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I guess the question now is that sustainable because we've
seen some of that this year then has gone away
for a while. How do they sustain that moving ahead?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well, I think when you can affect the quarterback the
way that they were able to on Sunday and really
defanged an offense that again was really starting to play well.
I know the Chargers have had O line issues and
protection issues, but Justin Herbert has had a really, you know,
all pro type season and he just never looked comfortable
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in that game. And I think when you can do
that upfront with your front, it masks some issues that
you have on the back end. And clearly Jacksonville right
now has some injuries in the secondary and that part
of the field that I think is a concern for sure.
But if Trayvon Walker, if josh Heinz Allen can get
to the quarterback to the way that they did on Sunday,
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I think it is sustainable. But you know, we're just
gonna have to wait and see how they look this
week and over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Be really this with a CBS sports.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
On the offensive side, they had five offensive linemen on
the injury report last week going into the game. For those,
one of those was a starter that didn't play. Of course,
four of them total were starters. But they showed to physicality,
didn't They almost two hundred yards rushing, and that that's
what this offense it feels like Liam Cohen said it
after the game, that's what they are.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They're a physical brand of football up front.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And if they're doing that then they're in pretty good
shape with a quarterback balancing him out as well.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, I think look, when you just to your point,
I thought the offensive line played really well. I was
very impressed with cole Van Lannon. You know, last couple
of weeks, he's been plugged in at multiple positions and
he's performed really well. I think last week he had
basically a clean sheet, didn't allow sack, didn't allow pressure,
was solid in the run game, and so I thought,
you know, he quitted himself very well. And this has
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always been the thing with Jacksonville, at least in the
last couple of years. They just their offensive line. They
just have never been able to truly figure it out,
whether it be injuries, whether it be guys underperforming. And
the one thing that I think is most impressive when
you look at what Liam and James Gladstone are trying
to build, is that that tough, physical brand of football.
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And I think if you can give Trevor Lawrence an efficient,
powerful run game, I think it just takes so much
pressure off his shoulders and it balances what they can
possibly be offensively. But you know, I remember we had Jacksonville,
I think week two or three JP when we sat
with Liam the first time I had met with him
in a setting like that where he really kind of
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went through what his offensive philosophy is. We walked out
of that meeting thinking, boy, if they can figure this
out and put this plan to fruition this, they could
really have something. And I think his philosophy of physical,
smash mouth football is something that lends it lends itself
to sustainable success in this league. And I thought that
that second half Sunday was really one of the first
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times we've seen what it can truly look like on
the field and in real time.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Spirodda's CBS Sports has to call the Jaguars and the
Cardinals quick look at Arizona. I mean, this is a
beat up football team. For their seven captains are on
ir this year. They're deep down on the running back room.
Of course, the quarterback is Jacoby Brissett now with Kyler
Murray on injured reserve. But Brissett throws forty seven completions
last week NFL record. They're up against it. They had
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to throw it around to try to get back in
the game.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But Brissett. Do they have any spark here in Arizona?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think the Cardinals are in a really they're in
a bad spot. Two weeks ago, they were down thirty
five nothing to Seattle before halftime, and the very next
week you get blown out at home again to a
division opponent. I mean that game was never competitive against
the forty nine ers, so a lot of those numbers
from Jacoby Brissette.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I love Brissett.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm one of his biggest fans. I think he's you know,
he's proven himself to be very serviceable quarterback in this
league for a long time. Beloved in every locker room.
He's been in a lot of those numbers. You know,
if we're being honest, probably a little empty. You know,
you're down by twenty plus points. You're just trying toss
it around, like you said, make plays. This was an
Arizona team JP as you know, they went into the
season year three of this regime with Jonathan gan and
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Manteasin Ford. They were expected to contend for a playoff spot.
So to look at where they are three and seven,
they've lost seven of their last eight games, and now
they're real questions about do they have to move on
from Kyler Murray. So I think that they're in a
spot that no franchise wants to be in. You know,
I think there are a lot of people that expect
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there to be a potential coaching change. Does Jonathan Gannon
even make it to the end of the season. Those
are all the questions that they're having to ponder an
answer right now In Arizona. Not a fun time to
be a fan of the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's always a fun time to be a fan of
Kalais Campbell, though, eighteenth year in the National Football League,
five sacks, still impacting the game. I mean last year,
the guys in handcuffs two hours before the Jaguars game
and then comes out with a sack and a TfL
in the first two plays. This guy has unlimited petrol
in his tank, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And I bet he had a smile on his face
later that day when he finished playing that game.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know he is.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He is a physical mare. I think everyone knows that
a guy at his size to be able to play
now into the age of forty with the punishment that
you take at that position is one thing. The other
thing that strikes me, And we've had a chance to
sit with Kalais now multiple times over the last couple
of years, with all these different stops that he's experienced,
and Adam rcha Letta brought this up. When you're a
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veteran player in the NFL who's been a star early on,
and as you age and your role is decreased more
often than not, not by your choice, but the coach's
choice because of maybe diminishing skills or just father time,
you tend to become a little bitter as a player,
and Arch has said that the biggest thing that strikes
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him once you get past all the physical stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is just his disposition is so is so amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He's still so positive and such a team oriented guy.
He's accepted his lesser role. He's been just like a
god send in every locker room he's been in, whether
it be Miami, whether it be now with the Cardinals,
And I just think that makes him even more unique
with all the other stuff that we marvel at with him,
all the physicality and just the sheer size of him
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as a person. You know, if you sit with him
in the same room, that's the only time you can
truly appreciate just how large of a man he is
and his physical skill set to be able to move
the way he does and be so nimble. But he's
just he's an incredible guy. I think, you know, you
can make a pretty good argument that he should be.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
In the Hall of Fame one day, and obviously has
an impact on what Josh heinz Allen learned.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As a rookie. They were teammates together.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You see that weekend and week out, the way he
goes about his business.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
All right, Spiro, have a great call. We'll do it
again next week. I guess right.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Sounds good, brother.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco visits with Mike Dempsey
each and every week.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
You know, Mike, it was I thought it was a
telling week for that. I really did, you know, coming
off of a disastrous loss the way he did, and
you know, blowing the fourth to the fourth quarter lead
to a backup quarterback. You could go one of two ways,
and I think Liam Cone did a great job getting
back refocused and you know, getting them and getting their
heads into it, and you can clearly see they were
a different football team. They were physical from the start,
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the mistakes were limited, and I think as a group
it might have been their best game of the year.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Oh yeah, I totally agree. It was their best game
of the year. But do you think we're past that
hurdle now? Is this the focused effort we'll get on
a week to week basis or is it still hold
your breath and hope?
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Well, I think, Mike, I think in the NFL it's
told your breath and hope, because there's always the ups
and then there's always the down. Even for the good teams,
the experienced teams, you've seen that this year. So when
you have a young team, this is one of those
weeks where you come off of victory where you feel
good about yourself and you've got to go back out
on the road and you've got to get refocused again.
You can't allow it to go back down. So again,
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you would think that they would. Last week did a
really good job for kind of getting out of that pattern.
But let's see, because again, you got to stack those
Until they start stacking them, then you won't truly believe
that they can get beyond that.
Speaker 10 (13:56):
I like to see them stack that running game that
they had last week.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Pete.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
It was great early in the season. It seems to
be coming around again here.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Now.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Is this something you think they'll be able to rely
on over the final seven weeks of the season.
Speaker 9 (14:07):
Well, you would think so, and I think that's ideally
what they want to do. I mean, they were physical
and you watch the tape and the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Got after it.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
I you know, Ezra Cleveland was really good, Hainesy was good,
and McCarry's been good the last couple of weeks, and
you know, Cole Van Lennon filling in a right tackle
was good. So the answer to your question is yes,
I think that's what they want to do, whether it
be you know, with Tutin, whether it be with you know, EPN.
They want to run the ball and take the pressure
off the passing game, and I think they did a
great job of that last week.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
Jacobe Myers has come in and led the team in receiving,
not eye popping numbers, but consecutive weeks since he's gotten here, Pete,
are you surprised by how big his impact has been already?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
No, He's a pros pro and you can see it
in the way they respond to him. But you could
see it on the field too. I mean he's a glider,
he knows how to sit down and zones, he knows
how to beat man coverage. You know, when you look
at additions to this team, I think it was a
great one. And look, they had problems at wide receiver,
They've had injuries at wide receiver, and getting a guy
like that to come in and be a PROS pro
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and show those guys how to do it and show
the fact that he can be an effective player in
the middle of the field. I think that's big for
that team. It's big for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Well, speaking of problems that wide receiver, we learned earlier
in the week that the Arizona Cardinals will be without
Marvin Harrison Junior for the second consecutive week, following an
appen deck to me. But their passing game was on
point last week. Michael Wilson had a huge game, Greg
Dortsch was very good, and Trey McBride's been outstanding all
season long. And Jacoby Brissett said an NFL record with
forty seven completions. How much pressure is this passing game
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going to put on the Jags this week?
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Well, I think McBride is number one, and you know
that he's been outstanding, and I think you have to
do everything you can to take him away. A couple
weeks ago, they had all kinds of problems with brought
Bowers and they got in some bad situations and matchup issues.
You know, they got blocked in with the safeties. You
can't do that. The safeties can't be in man. The
man coverage with Trey McBride is going to eat him alive.
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So I think you got to do a lot of
things to try and take him away. And if the
other guys, if Wilson and Doors and that group and
they beat you, then have at it. And I think
that's going to be the focus of the defense. I
think that'll be priority number one.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Now.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
It's easier, said that done, to take away try and
take away a guy like McBride. I would double them,
beat him up, do everything I can to take him
out of the game and let those other guys beat you.
Speaker 10 (16:22):
All right, give us a kind of an X factor player, Pete,
somebody from the Jags that you think could have a
big impact on this game that we haven't discussed so far.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
I think when you look at the backhand, I think
you know the safety both of them have to play big,
and there's been games where both those guys have had
problems back there. And when they've had problems, one being
you know, getting caught in bad situations. For Winger when
he's matched up, he's athletically limited, matched up in one
on one situations, he's been beat and Antonio Johnson, who
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had an interception last week, getting caught in some situations
where he doesn't, you know, exactly play the defense the
right way. If those two guys can play sound football
and they're gonna be big and trying to take away McBride,
then I think the defense can limit what they do
in the passing game. So I put those two on
the radar.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
A big opportunity for the Jags to get to seven
and four peak. Do they get the job done today?
Speaker 9 (17:14):
I think they do. I think they're a better team.
I think that you know, yeah, there's gonna be some
emotional letdown. You got to go across the country. You're
playing a team you should beat. But if this team
is what we think they can be and what they
showed last week, they go out there and they win
the game today. So I'm taking I'm taking the Jaguars
to win the game.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Defensive tackle Eric Armstead is put together a solid campaign
so far, and he caught up with Brian Sexton in
the locker room.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I think just having a growth mindset, getting better and
better as the season goes on, and you know, down
the stretches where you want to be playing your best football.
So just keeping our foot to the pedal and keep
getting better.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I'm not asking to beat your chest, But it your
seems like this defensive line feeds off of your energy.
Is that something that you focus on my energy being
that guy for that defensive line group.
Speaker 11 (18:01):
I just wanna, you know, make plays and how my
team win games. And that's always been my mindset. So
we got a really good group that I love being around,
and you know, we're having fun out there.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
What did it mean to you guys to have the
young guys coming off the edge last week? I mean
both Danny and BJ contributed in a pretty good way.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Yeah, that was great to see, you know them them
get an opportunity and contribute. You know, we would believe
in everyone on our our d line that when they're
out there, they're going to contribute and play well. So
that was great to see.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Been on teams that have gone deep into the playoffs
to the super Bowl. You know, this team has been
a bit up and down at times in its history,
not just this year.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
How do you how do you take a huge.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Win and come back and play consistently as a team
and not not ride the roller coaster for a season.
Speaker 11 (18:51):
I think you got to learn how to win games
in certain fashions and I think, you know, last week.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Uh, with a big lead, we we can.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Need to attack and you know, have that sense of
urgency and so.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
You know, it's game. Every game is different.
Speaker 11 (19:08):
There's gonna be times where it's a you know, back
and forth and it's gonna come down in the wire
and someone's gonna have to make a play and executing
a pressure situation. Or it's gonna be times where you
know you're having to fight back for a lead or
times where you're having to protect the big leads. So
it's just learning learning how to win in those different situations.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, this Area Zona team better than most in
this locker room. Jaguars have only played there twice in
thirty one years. Their record isn't great, but it looks
like there's enough dangerous players there that they can ruin
your day.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Arizona's a good team.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
Like I said, you can't sleep on anybody in this league,
and they have great players all over their offense, defense,
and special teams. And you know, I've I've played against
a bunch of them throughout my career being in that division.
So we're gonna have to, you know, come out there
with that same sense of urgency like I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
And you know, jump on him fast.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Really, you're in a great spot.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
With five and a half sacks, it seems like you
have put together a really good season with half the
season left to go. Does it feel like your best
season in a while.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
I don't know, somewhat definitely better than last season. And
that was a focus on mind to to switch back
to playing inside. And you know, I had a lot
playing this offseason. Uh what I wanted to show out
there on the field this year. You know, I've had
some good seasons, So yeah, I would say it's it's
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up there, but got a lot more to do.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Let's wrap with this some kalays Campbell's in his eighteenth season.
He's a guy we know a little bit around here.
You obviously know him. How about an appreciation? Do you
have one for a guy that can play that long
at that high of a level in this game?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Much appreciation? Uh? Kalais?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
I really feel like paved the way for a tall
defensive lineman like me. You know, he showed what was
possible when people were questioning, you know, if being too
tall was was a negative and not being able to
play with leverage and.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
All those things.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
And you know, Kalais was my player comp coming out
of coming out of college, and you know, he really
showed what tall defensive linemen are capable of. And you know,
he's a mentor, big homy of mine. So much admiration
for him and what he's doing in his career, and
he's he's inspiring me. And you know, I don't know
if I'm a play eighteen, but you know he's continued
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to inspire me each each and every year and show
what you can do playing at a super high level.
You know, when you're kind of getting up there in
age and people might not people might not expect that
out of you. He's he's becoming an outlier and showing
what showing what a player like that can do.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And finally, our weekly visit with Pride to the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor Week twelve. The Jaguars, coming off
a massive win over the Chargers, heading west again to
face the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I think we learned
a little bit about this team last week, how they
got off the deck after the collapse in Houston.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
What do you want to know about the team now?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Coming off a blowout, blowout win against the LA.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Chargers, JP Man, I think everybody wants to know the
same thing. What is this team really made of? You know,
last week we spoke a lot about bouncing back, you know,
the mental toughness that will require to bounce back and
just get a win. But in the fashion that they
got to win, these guys can be on an extreme high.
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But again after the game, Coach Cohen, he talked about
this is who we are. It's about identity. This game
will show you who they are. This is a bigger
test this week versus a team who is not as
good as the team they played in the Chargers team
a week ago. This Arizona team plays hard, but they're
not as good as the Chargers. So will the Jaguars
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be deflated coming in or will they be able to
get up versus opponent who isn't as good. So I
believe from a mental toughness standpoint point, this will show
more about this Jaguars team than a week ago.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, Jack's basically just decided to pounded at him last
week with the forty seven carries in the game, nearly
two hundred yards, and I mean Liam Cohen said, that's
what the identity of this team is. Is when the
offensive line is physical and they can run the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you agree with that.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Wholeheartedly when you go and look at the wins versus
losses and the losses they haven't They're not rushing over
one hundred yards, they're not protecting Trevor Lawrence. They're giving
up multiple sacks and each of these, each of their losses.
But in all of the wins that you know, it's
about ball control. It's about no turnovers. From the offensive side,
it's about no sacks. And again, the running backs are
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getting double digit carries, double digit touches, whether you're even
throw in the pass game. So their identity on offense
is protect Trevor Lawrence, allow him to stay calm under pressure,
run the football to keep their pressure off of him.
On the flip side, they want to make sure they
get after the quarterback, create havoc and get turnovers.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Fred Taylor with us proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah,
and the Jaguars defense. I played very well, of course
last week and got after justin Herbert. You know, this
is a Cardinals team, as you talked about, they are
just beat up. They've got Oh my gosh, Fred, it
is I mean I thought the Jags were beat up. No, no, no,
They've got a bunch of guys on ir, including the
starting quarterback. So but Jacoby Brissett's been at it for
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a while and he threw forty seven completions last week
in a losing effort. He's a veteran guy. If he
was as good, he'd probably be starting. But what's your
plan of attack against Brissette, especially when he has the
tight end and Trey McBride to throw too.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
You know, just to double down on what you said
about their injuries, No, Kyler Murray, no Marvin Harrison, they're
running back. Emery did McCart is also a guy who
they depend heavily on. But Trey McBride, you know, versatile,
tight end, he can go after, he can catch, he
run great routes, he's fast. If you take him away,
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then this is how you get after Jacobi Prissett. But Prissette,
you know Wilson McBride, those are his two big targets.
A week ago, Wilson had eighteen targets, fifteen catches for
one hundred and eighty five yards. McBride eleven targets, ten receptions,
one hundred and fifteen yards, So these are the two
guys they're gonna throw too. For the Jaguars, they have
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to be able to show that they can rush for
down linemen. That way you can play tight coverage on
the back end and not have any gaps in your defense. Otherwise,
the Jags have shown that they're able to get after
you and create pressure via their blitz package. But if
they're gonna do that, Perssett who's savvy enough, a veteran,
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he knows the quick game is going to be key
for them if the Jaguars are going to get after
them with bitch pressure.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
So my key for.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Jacksonville defensively is to make the four down front come alive.
If they can get pressure with the front four, they'll
be successful.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And Fred, they did it last week.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They only blitzed I think nine percent of the time
in the game and got home a lot on Justin Herbert,
which was really good to see their lowest percentage of
blitz all season long. Fred Taylor with us, let's finish
with Kaleis Campbell. You know what else can we say
about one of the best players of all time?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's fantastic.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Oh, JP, we can probably start with maybe we shouldn't
have never gotten rid of.
Speaker 12 (26:40):
Let's start there. Kalays is just u.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
He's a ball of joy man and big ball of
joy actually, one of the hugest humans on the face
of the earth, a tremendous person. Always nominated for Walter
Payton Man of the Year. You know, he's been great
off the field as well as he's been on the field.
And when you look at him, you say, he's not
slowing down before it got to be that big to
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still have great pad level and still bend at his knees,
still getting it done, you know, just a you know,
a testament to his hard work, you know. And we
got to keep him out of the backfield because he's
a disruptor. So and he's going to be up for
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this challenge. I don't know how many times has he
played the Jag since they let him go.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, I remember last year he was in handcuffs two
hours before the game with Tyreek Hill and well, you know,
the the Dolphins game, and then comes out and has
a sack on the first play of the game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fred.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
See, So this is the type of teammate he is too.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Not that he caused trouble, but that the South Beach
police actually put two guys in handcuffs.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
That maybe they didn't really need to that day.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
But that's the whole different story that has nothing to
do with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But Calais again, he's that
type of teammate that he's gonna be right there, which
is regardless of the fact, and if you don't have
him in handcuffs, more than likely.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
He's going to be getting after your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, he's got five sacks of the season, not slowing
down at all, probably his last year.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Fred, let's do it man.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
The Jags with the playoff race, seven seed, they've got
tie breakers against the Chargers and Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
They just got to handle business the next few weeks.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah, you gotta handle business the next few weeks because
when you look at a JP you got you know,
fourteen is it? Three teams with winning records and the
well two teams with running records actually I apologize, and
the Coats and the Broncos, and then the other teams
you got Titans twice, you got Arizona.
Speaker 12 (28:47):
When you throw them in there, it's one of.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
The Jets and the Jets that are pretty pretty bad.
But again from a mental standpoint, you have to make
sure you're able to get up and be ready as
ready for these teams with the losing record as you
are from teams with winning records.
Speaker 12 (29:05):
So it starts today with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Thanks Fred, we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Man all r JP.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's Week twelve.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The Jaguars meet the Cardinals at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's a four h five Eastern kickoff time. Enjoy the game.
We've arrived at Week twelve.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shadwick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews
ahead of the Jaguars and the Cardinals. Let's start this
week with the Jaguars offensive line coach Son Seret with
Brian Sexton after a dominant performance last week.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh man, I mean I've been in this league, you know,
coming on a lot of years, and that's what you hunt.
You know, you sit there, you preach it as a
coach to the players, saying you can take over a
game running the ball, and you know they hear it.
It's just not giving it lip service.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Our coordinator, which is our head coach, really took it
to heart and he just kept calling those runs.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Man, is it the personality of this team to run first?
It's a quarterback driven league.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
But when I talk to Robert Hansey, when I see
how interchangeable some of the parts that you've put together
are when they get in there, it sures seems like
this is a run first team.
Speaker 6 (00:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You know, a lot of teams want to talk about identity,
and that's something we talk about. We want to be
the kind of team that strikes first, you know, and
strikes hard. You know, it's just one of those deals.
And you know, we have no problem with running the
ball and run it again and then run it again.
That's the kind team we want to be.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You've had to do a lot of different things. I mean,
Ezra Cleveland, do I think he's played very well? Has
to miss a game. You plug a guy in and
he goes, Anthon Harrison can't play. Plug Cole van Landon
and it goes, how difficult is it to build that
sort of cohesiveness no matter who you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, that's hats off to those guys, those young guys.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You know, you know, Cole van Landon did a hell
of a job. You know, he didn't blink a bit.
You know, he went in and played guard and then
you know, next week we said, hey, man, we need
you to play tackle. He's played the jumbo tight end,
he's done all three positions. You know, I tipped my
hat to him. There's a guy that's showing what he's worth,
you know, and he did it at a high level
at all three positions. And we appreciate that. And that's
what the expectation in the room is. You know, we
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want guys that can come in and play multiple positions.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
A bunch of guys on the defensive side talked about
playing angry last week. If you can just go back
to that week between Houston and Los Angeles, what was
the mindset of your team, because that was a resounding
win last week, what was the mindset? And then how
do you replicate that after a win as opposed to
a law.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, at the end of the day, it's the standard.
It's been set, you know, the head coach is set
the standard of saying, you know, hey, we got to finish,
you know, and we didn't finish against the Texans. And
you know, we made a big point of that during
the week. We did it at practice, you know, in
our meetings everything, you know, that was emphasized, you know,
and those guys took it to heart, you know, and
they didn't let up. You know, it's just one of
those deals. And even in the game, they were still
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fired up about you know, let's run the ball more,
let's do this, and you know, they really took it
to the heart and finished.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
At this time, it's probably easier to do after a
loss than a win. So how do you, as the
offensive line coach keep that mentality on finish in a
week where you win thirty five to six.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well that once again, that goes to them. You know,
I can sit there and I can give it lip service,
but the end of the day, they're the ones that's
going to drive it, you know. And you know, we
had this conversation the beginning of the year. We're going
to go as the old line goes, you know, And
it's and that's any NFL team, lit's sens breal. If
you've got problems on the line, you got problems and
people know it shows real fast.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Do you have an appreciation for number ninety three in Arizona?
Kala As Campbell is a guy who's been playing, I
mean a long time.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
How difficult is he to defend?
Speaker 8 (03:06):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Man, he has been around a long time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like you said, I can remember my days and with
the Steelers and him over at the Ravens, and you know,
an eighteen year guy. You know, it's unbelievable, you know,
and he's thirty nine or thirty eight years old, and
it's just like I'm sitting there thinking, to man, I
know how I felt at thirty eight, thirty nine. There's
no way I could have done this you know, you know,
hats off to him. There's a guy that's still doing
it at a high level and we you know it's
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gonna be a tough week for our guys inside and
they know it. And just the type of player he is, I've.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Been a final thought.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
You're in your first year here in this program, six
and four off to a great start. Robert Hainsey's here
in his first year coming over from Tampa to help
instill the system that Liam brought with him. How how
strong is the relationship that you've developed with Robert and
how valuable is he to you as the offensive line coach?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh, he's He's priceless to us man, he's the he's
our field general, you know, and you know it's the
idea of him being able to communicate not only with
the guys in the room, but with other positions, and
everybody looks to him for answers, you know, and you know,
even me sometimes I got to realize how he's playing
a certain way and how he sees things, you know,
and that's just how it is, you know. But he's
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done an unbelievable job and that's somebody you know that's
going to be here for a long time with us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Spirouddas has the call of the game again this week
on the NFL on CBS. It's the second of three
straight Jags games. His crew will call the NFL on
CBS back out of this week the Jaguars and the
Cardinals coming up.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Spirou Addas also had the call of the Chargers Jaguars
game last week.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Great to see you against Bureau and I don't know
how many people sold that kind of performance coming, but
it tells you a lot about maybe where this team's
going down the stretch.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I thought it was a significant moment for Liam Cohen
and the staff. I thought it was a significant moment
for the team because, as you know, when you have
an experience or traumatic experience the way they had the
week before against the Texans, that next game is so
critical and I think so often tells you about the
character and the makeup of a team, and so to
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have the performance that they did against the Chargers team
JP that came in confident, the way that they were playing,
they just knocked off for a confident Pittsburgh team.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
The week before.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I thought it says a lot about the team. I
thought it was a big moment for Liam his message
I think is clearly resonating. That's always an encouraging sign
for a team that's trying to climb the ranks and
as send the way that they are, And I just thought, overall,
if I'm a Jacks fan, really encouraging sign because I
think that truly was the significant psychological hurdle that they
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that they cleared on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Well, the Jaguars defense, I mean, put together an incredible
performance against one.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Of the top offenses in football.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I guess the question now is that sustainable because we've
seen some of that this year then has gone away
for a while. How do they sustain that moving ahead?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well, I think when you can affect the quarterback the
way that they were able to on Sunday and really
defanged an offense that again was really starting to play well.
I know the Chargers have had O line issues and
protection issues, but Justin Herbert has had a really, you know,
all pro type season and he just never looked comfortable
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in that game. And I think when you can do
that upfront with your front, it masks some issues that
you have on the back end. And clearly Jacksonville right
now has some injuries in the secondary and that part
of the field that I think is a concern for sure.
But if Trayvon Walker, if josh Heinz Allen can get
to the quarterback to the way that they did on Sunday,
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I think it is sustainable. But you know, we're just
gonna have to wait and see how they look this
week and over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Be really this with a CBS sports.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
On the offensive side, they had five offensive linemen on
the injury report last week going into the game. For those,
one of those was a starter that didn't play. Of course,
four of them total were starters. But they showed to physicality,
didn't They almost two hundred yards rushing, and that that's
what this offense it feels like Liam Cohen said it
after the game, that's what they are.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They're a physical brand of football up front.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And if they're doing that then they're in pretty good
shape with a quarterback balancing him out as well.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, I think look, when you just to your point,
I thought the offensive line played really well. I was
very impressed with cole Van Lannon. You know, last couple
of weeks, he's been plugged in at multiple positions and
he's performed really well. I think last week he had
basically a clean sheet, didn't allow sack, didn't allow pressure,
was solid in the run game, and so I thought,
you know, he quitted himself very well. And this has
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always been the thing with Jacksonville, at least in the
last couple of years. They just their offensive line. They
just have never been able to truly figure it out,
whether it be injuries, whether it be guys underperforming. And
the one thing that I think is most impressive when
you look at what Liam and James Gladstone are trying
to build, is that that tough, physical brand of football.
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And I think if you can give Trevor Lawrence an efficient,
powerful run game, I think it just takes so much
pressure off his shoulders and it balances what they can
possibly be offensively. But you know, I remember we had Jacksonville,
I think week two or three JP when we sat
with Liam the first time I had met with him
in a setting like that where he really kind of
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went through what his offensive philosophy is. We walked out
of that meeting thinking, boy, if they can figure this
out and put this plan to fruition this, they could
really have something. And I think his philosophy of physical,
smash mouth football is something that lends it lends itself
to sustainable success in this league. And I thought that
that second half Sunday was really one of the first
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times we've seen what it can truly look like on
the field and in real time.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Spirodda's CBS Sports has to call the Jaguars and the
Cardinals quick look at Arizona. I mean, this is a
beat up football team. For their seven captains are on
ir this year. They're deep down on the running back room.
Of course, the quarterback is Jacoby Brissett now with Kyler
Murray on injured reserve. But Brissett throws forty seven completions
last week NFL record. They're up against it. They had
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to throw it around to try to get back in
the game.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But Brissett. Do they have any spark here in Arizona?
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think the Cardinals are in a really they're in
a bad spot. Two weeks ago, they were down thirty
five nothing to Seattle before halftime, and the very next
week you get blown out at home again to a
division opponent. I mean that game was never competitive against
the forty nine ers, so a lot of those numbers
from Jacoby Brissette.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I love Brissett.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I'm one of his biggest fans. I think he's you know,
he's proven himself to be very serviceable quarterback in this
league for a long time. Beloved in every locker room.
He's been in a lot of those numbers. You know,
if we're being honest, probably a little empty. You know,
you're down by twenty plus points. You're just trying toss
it around, like you said, make plays. This was an
Arizona team JP as you know, they went into the
season year three of this regime with Jonathan gan and
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Manteasin Ford. They were expected to contend for a playoff spot.
So to look at where they are three and seven,
they've lost seven of their last eight games, and now
they're real questions about do they have to move on
from Kyler Murray. So I think that they're in a
spot that no franchise wants to be in. You know,
I think there are a lot of people that expect
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there to be a potential coaching change. Does Jonathan Gannon
even make it to the end of the season. Those
are all the questions that they're having to ponder an
answer right now In Arizona. Not a fun time to
be a fan of the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It's always a fun time to be a fan of
Kalais Campbell, though, eighteenth year in the National Football League,
five sacks, still impacting the game. I mean last year,
the guys in handcuffs two hours before the Jaguars game
and then comes out with a sack and a TfL
in the first two plays. This guy has unlimited petrol
in his tank, I think.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And I bet he had a smile on his face
later that day when he finished playing that game.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You know he is.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
He is a physical mare. I think everyone knows that
a guy at his size to be able to play
now into the age of forty with the punishment that
you take at that position is one thing. The other
thing that strikes me, And we've had a chance to
sit with Kalais now multiple times over the last couple
of years, with all these different stops that he's experienced,
and Adam rcha Letta brought this up. When you're a
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veteran player in the NFL who's been a star early on,
and as you age and your role is decreased more
often than not, not by your choice, but the coach's
choice because of maybe diminishing skills or just father time,
you tend to become a little bitter as a player,
and Arch has said that the biggest thing that strikes
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him once you get past all the physical stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Is just his disposition is so is so amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He's still so positive and such a team oriented guy.
He's accepted his lesser role. He's been just like a
god send in every locker room he's been in, whether
it be Miami, whether it be now with the Cardinals,
And I just think that makes him even more unique
with all the other stuff that we marvel at with him,
all the physicality and just the sheer size of him
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as a person. You know, if you sit with him
in the same room, that's the only time you can
truly appreciate just how large of a man he is
and his physical skill set to be able to move
the way he does and be so nimble. But he's
just he's an incredible guy. I think, you know, you
can make a pretty good argument that he should be.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
In the Hall of Fame one day, and obviously has
an impact on what Josh heinz Allen learned.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
As a rookie. They were teammates together.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You see that weekend and week out, the way he
goes about his business.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
All right, Spiro, have a great call. We'll do it
again next week. I guess right.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Sounds good, brother.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
CBS Sports senior writer Pete Frisco visits with Mike Dempsey
each and every week.
Speaker 9 (12:46):
You know, Mike, it was I thought it was a
telling week for that. I really did, you know, coming
off of a disastrous loss the way he did, and
you know, blowing the fourth to the fourth quarter lead
to a backup quarterback. You could go one of two ways,
and I think Liam Cone did a great job getting
back refocused and you know, getting them and getting their
heads into it, and you can clearly see they were
a different football team. They were physical from the start,
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the mistakes were limited, and I think as a group
it might have been their best game of the year.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
Oh yeah, I totally agree. It was their best game
of the year. But do you think we're past that
hurdle now? Is this the focused effort we'll get on
a week to week basis or is it still hold
your breath and hope?
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Well, I think, Mike, I think in the NFL it's
told your breath and hope, because there's always the ups
and then there's always the down. Even for the good teams,
the experienced teams, you've seen that this year. So when
you have a young team, this is one of those
weeks where you come off of victory where you feel
good about yourself and you've got to go back out
on the road and you've got to get refocused again.
You can't allow it to go back down. So again,
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you would think that they would. Last week did a
really good job for kind of getting out of that pattern.
But let's see, because again, you got to stack those
Until they start stacking them, then you won't truly believe
that they can get beyond that.
Speaker 10 (13:56):
I like to see them stack that running game that
they had last week.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
Pete.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
It was great early in the season. It seems to
be coming around again here.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Now.
Speaker 10 (14:03):
Is this something you think they'll be able to rely
on over the final seven weeks of the season.
Speaker 9 (14:07):
Well, you would think so, and I think that's ideally
what they want to do. I mean, they were physical
and you watch the tape and the offensive line.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Got after it.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
I you know, Ezra Cleveland was really good, Hainesy was good,
and McCarry's been good the last couple of weeks, and
you know, Cole Van Lennon filling in a right tackle
was good. So the answer to your question is yes,
I think that's what they want to do, whether it
be you know, with Tutin, whether it be with you know, EPN.
They want to run the ball and take the pressure
off the passing game, and I think they did a
great job of that last week.
Speaker 10 (14:35):
Jacobe Myers has come in and led the team in receiving,
not eye popping numbers, but consecutive weeks since he's gotten here, Pete,
are you surprised by how big his impact has been already?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
No, He's a pros pro and you can see it
in the way they respond to him. But you could
see it on the field too. I mean he's a glider,
he knows how to sit down and zones, he knows
how to beat man coverage. You know, when you look
at additions to this team, I think it was a
great one. And look, they had problems at wide receiver,
They've had injuries at wide receiver, and getting a guy
like that to come in and be a PROS pro
(15:08):
and show those guys how to do it and show
the fact that he can be an effective player in
the middle of the field. I think that's big for
that team. It's big for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Well, speaking of problems that wide receiver, we learned earlier
in the week that the Arizona Cardinals will be without
Marvin Harrison Junior for the second consecutive week, following an
appen deck to me. But their passing game was on
point last week. Michael Wilson had a huge game, Greg
Dortsch was very good, and Trey McBride's been outstanding all
season long. And Jacoby Brissett said an NFL record with
forty seven completions. How much pressure is this passing game
(15:39):
going to put on the Jags this week?
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Well, I think McBride is number one, and you know
that he's been outstanding, and I think you have to
do everything you can to take him away. A couple
weeks ago, they had all kinds of problems with brought
Bowers and they got in some bad situations and matchup issues.
You know, they got blocked in with the safeties. You
can't do that. The safeties can't be in man. The
man coverage with Trey McBride is going to eat him alive.
(16:02):
So I think you got to do a lot of
things to try and take him away. And if the
other guys, if Wilson and Doors and that group and
they beat you, then have at it. And I think
that's going to be the focus of the defense. I
think that'll be priority number one.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Now.
Speaker 9 (16:14):
It's easier, said that done, to take away try and
take away a guy like McBride. I would double them,
beat him up, do everything I can to take him
out of the game and let those other guys beat you.
Speaker 10 (16:22):
All right, give us a kind of an X factor player, Pete,
somebody from the Jags that you think could have a
big impact on this game that we haven't discussed so far.
Speaker 9 (16:30):
I think when you look at the backhand, I think
you know the safety both of them have to play big,
and there's been games where both those guys have had
problems back there. And when they've had problems, one being
you know, getting caught in bad situations. For Winger when
he's matched up, he's athletically limited, matched up in one
on one situations, he's been beat and Antonio Johnson, who
(16:52):
had an interception last week, getting caught in some situations
where he doesn't, you know, exactly play the defense the
right way. If those two guys can play sound football
and they're gonna be big and trying to take away McBride,
then I think the defense can limit what they do
in the passing game. So I put those two on
the radar.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
A big opportunity for the Jags to get to seven
and four peak. Do they get the job done today?
Speaker 9 (17:14):
I think they do. I think they're a better team.
I think that you know, yeah, there's gonna be some
emotional letdown. You got to go across the country. You're
playing a team you should beat. But if this team
is what we think they can be and what they
showed last week, they go out there and they win
the game today. So I'm taking I'm taking the Jaguars
to win the game.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Defensive tackle Eric Armstead is put together a solid campaign
so far, and he caught up with Brian Sexton in
the locker room.
Speaker 11 (17:38):
I think just having a growth mindset, getting better and
better as the season goes on, and you know, down
the stretches where you want to be playing your best football.
So just keeping our foot to the pedal and keep
getting better.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I'm not asking to beat your chest, But it your
seems like this defensive line feeds off of your energy.
Is that something that you focus on my energy being
that guy for that defensive line group.
Speaker 11 (18:01):
I just wanna, you know, make plays and how my
team win games. And that's always been my mindset. So
we got a really good group that I love being around,
and you know, we're having fun out there.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
What did it mean to you guys to have the
young guys coming off the edge last week? I mean
both Danny and BJ contributed in a pretty good way.
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Yeah, that was great to see, you know them them
get an opportunity and contribute. You know, we would believe
in everyone on our our d line that when they're
out there, they're going to contribute and play well. So
that was great to see.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Been on teams that have gone deep into the playoffs
to the super Bowl. You know, this team has been
a bit up and down at times in its history,
not just this year.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
How do you how do you take a huge.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Win and come back and play consistently as a team
and not not ride the roller coaster for a season.
Speaker 11 (18:51):
I think you got to learn how to win games
in certain fashions and I think, you know, last week.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Uh, with a big lead, we we can.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Need to attack and you know, have that sense of
urgency and so.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
You know, it's game. Every game is different.
Speaker 11 (19:08):
There's gonna be times where it's a you know, back
and forth and it's gonna come down in the wire
and someone's gonna have to make a play and executing
a pressure situation. Or it's gonna be times where you
know you're having to fight back for a lead or
times where you're having to protect the big leads. So
it's just learning learning how to win in those different situations.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
You know, this Area Zona team better than most in
this locker room. Jaguars have only played there twice in
thirty one years. Their record isn't great, but it looks
like there's enough dangerous players there that they can ruin
your day.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Arizona's a good team.
Speaker 11 (19:42):
Like I said, you can't sleep on anybody in this league,
and they have great players all over their offense, defense,
and special teams. And you know, I've I've played against
a bunch of them throughout my career being in that division.
So we're gonna have to, you know, come out there
with that same sense of urgency like I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
And you know, jump on him fast.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Really, you're in a great spot.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
With five and a half sacks, it seems like you
have put together a really good season with half the
season left to go. Does it feel like your best
season in a while.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
I don't know, somewhat definitely better than last season. And
that was a focus on mind to to switch back
to playing inside. And you know, I had a lot
playing this offseason. Uh what I wanted to show out
there on the field this year. You know, I've had
some good seasons, So yeah, I would say it's it's
(20:39):
up there, but got a lot more to do.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Let's wrap with this some kalays Campbell's in his eighteenth season.
He's a guy we know a little bit around here.
You obviously know him. How about an appreciation? Do you
have one for a guy that can play that long
at that high of a level in this game?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Much appreciation? Uh? Kalais?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
I really feel like paved the way for a tall
defensive lineman like me. You know, he showed what was
possible when people were questioning, you know, if being too
tall was was a negative and not being able to
play with leverage and.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
All those things.
Speaker 11 (21:08):
And you know, Kalais was my player comp coming out
of coming out of college, and you know, he really
showed what tall defensive linemen are capable of. And you know,
he's a mentor, big homy of mine. So much admiration
for him and what he's doing in his career, and
he's he's inspiring me. And you know, I don't know
if I'm a play eighteen, but you know he's continued
(21:31):
to inspire me each each and every year and show
what you can do playing at a super high level.
You know, when you're kind of getting up there in
age and people might not people might not expect that
out of you. He's he's becoming an outlier and showing
what showing what a player like that can do.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And finally, our weekly visit with Pride to the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor Week twelve. The Jaguars, coming off
a massive win over the Chargers, heading west again to
face the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I think we learned
a little bit about this team last week, how they
got off the deck after the collapse in Houston.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
What do you want to know about the team now?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Coming off a blowout, blowout win against the LA.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Chargers, JP Man, I think everybody wants to know the
same thing. What is this team really made of? You know,
last week we spoke a lot about bouncing back, you know,
the mental toughness that will require to bounce back and
just get a win. But in the fashion that they
got to win, these guys can be on an extreme high.
(22:36):
But again after the game, Coach Cohen, he talked about
this is who we are. It's about identity. This game
will show you who they are. This is a bigger
test this week versus a team who is not as
good as the team they played in the Chargers team
a week ago. This Arizona team plays hard, but they're
not as good as the Chargers. So will the Jaguars
(22:59):
be deflated coming in or will they be able to
get up versus opponent who isn't as good. So I
believe from a mental toughness standpoint point, this will show
more about this Jaguars team than a week ago.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, Jack's basically just decided to pounded at him last
week with the forty seven carries in the game, nearly
two hundred yards, and I mean Liam Cohen said, that's
what the identity of this team is. Is when the
offensive line is physical and they can run the ball.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you agree with that.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Wholeheartedly when you go and look at the wins versus
losses and the losses they haven't They're not rushing over
one hundred yards, they're not protecting Trevor Lawrence. They're giving
up multiple sacks and each of these, each of their losses.
But in all of the wins that you know, it's
about ball control. It's about no turnovers. From the offensive side,
it's about no sacks. And again, the running backs are
(23:51):
getting double digit carries, double digit touches, whether you're even
throw in the pass game. So their identity on offense
is protect Trevor Lawrence, allow him to stay calm under pressure,
run the football to keep their pressure off of him.
On the flip side, they want to make sure they
get after the quarterback, create havoc and get turnovers.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Fred Taylor with us proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah,
and the Jaguars defense. I played very well, of course
last week and got after justin Herbert. You know, this
is a Cardinals team, as you talked about, they are
just beat up. They've got Oh my gosh, Fred, it
is I mean I thought the Jags were beat up. No, no, no,
They've got a bunch of guys on ir, including the
starting quarterback. So but Jacoby Brissett's been at it for
(24:34):
a while and he threw forty seven completions last week
in a losing effort. He's a veteran guy. If he
was as good, he'd probably be starting. But what's your
plan of attack against Brissette, especially when he has the
tight end and Trey McBride to throw too.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
You know, just to double down on what you said
about their injuries, No, Kyler Murray, no Marvin Harrison, they're
running back. Emery did McCart is also a guy who
they depend heavily on. But Trey McBride, you know, versatile,
tight end, he can go after, he can catch, he
run great routes, he's fast. If you take him away,
(25:13):
then this is how you get after Jacobi Prissett. But Prissette,
you know Wilson McBride, those are his two big targets.
A week ago, Wilson had eighteen targets, fifteen catches for
one hundred and eighty five yards. McBride eleven targets, ten receptions,
one hundred and fifteen yards, So these are the two
guys they're gonna throw too. For the Jaguars, they have
(25:34):
to be able to show that they can rush for
down linemen. That way you can play tight coverage on
the back end and not have any gaps in your defense. Otherwise,
the Jags have shown that they're able to get after
you and create pressure via their blitz package. But if
they're gonna do that, Perssett who's savvy enough, a veteran,
(25:55):
he knows the quick game is going to be key
for them if the Jaguars are going to get after
them with bitch pressure.
Speaker 12 (26:01):
So my key for.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Jacksonville defensively is to make the four down front come alive.
If they can get pressure with the front four, they'll
be successful.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
And Fred, they did it last week.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
They only blitzed I think nine percent of the time
in the game and got home a lot on Justin Herbert,
which was really good to see their lowest percentage of
blitz all season long. Fred Taylor with us, let's finish
with Kaleis Campbell. You know what else can we say
about one of the best players of all time?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's fantastic.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Oh, JP, we can probably start with maybe we shouldn't
have never gotten rid of.
Speaker 12 (26:40):
Let's start there. Kalays is just u.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
He's a ball of joy man and big ball of
joy actually, one of the hugest humans on the face
of the earth, a tremendous person. Always nominated for Walter
Payton Man of the Year. You know, he's been great
off the field as well as he's been on the field.
And when you look at him, you say, he's not
slowing down before it got to be that big to
(27:06):
still have great pad level and still bend at his knees,
still getting it done, you know, just a you know,
a testament to his hard work, you know. And we
got to keep him out of the backfield because he's
a disruptor. So and he's going to be up for
(27:26):
this challenge. I don't know how many times has he
played the Jag since they let him go.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, I remember last year he was in handcuffs two
hours before the game with Tyreek Hill and well, you know,
the the Dolphins game, and then comes out and has
a sack on the first play of the game.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Fred.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
See, So this is the type of teammate he is too.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
Not that he caused trouble, but that the South Beach
police actually put two guys in handcuffs.
Speaker 12 (27:51):
That maybe they didn't really need to that day.
Speaker 8 (27:54):
But that's the whole different story that has nothing to
do with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But Calais again, he's that
type of teammate that he's gonna be right there, which
is regardless of the fact, and if you don't have
him in handcuffs, more than likely.
Speaker 12 (28:11):
He's going to be getting after your quarterback.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, he's got five sacks of the season, not slowing
down at all, probably his last year.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Fred, let's do it man.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
The Jags with the playoff race, seven seed, they've got
tie breakers against the Chargers and Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
They just got to handle business the next few weeks.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
Yeah, you gotta handle business the next few weeks because
when you look at a JP you got you know,
fourteen is it? Three teams with winning records and the
well two teams with running records actually I apologize, and
the Coats and the Broncos, and then the other teams
you got Titans twice, you got Arizona.
Speaker 12 (28:47):
When you throw them in there, it's one of.
Speaker 8 (28:50):
The Jets and the Jets that are pretty pretty bad.
But again from a mental standpoint, you have to make
sure you're able to get up and be ready as
ready for these teams with the losing record as you
are from teams with winning records.
Speaker 12 (29:05):
So it starts today with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Thanks Fred, we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
Man all r JP.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's Week twelve.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
The Jaguars meet the Cardinals at State Farms Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It's a four h five Eastern kickoff time. Enjoy the game.
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