December 12, 2025 • 34 mins
J.P. Shadrick and Brian Sexton catch up with former Jaguars RB Fred Taylor, NFL on CBS analyst Ross Tucker, CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, WR Tim Patrick and Jaguars Assistant OL Coach & Run Game Specialist Keli’i Kekuewa. The group discusses the upcoming matchup between the Jaguars and the Jets, the air of "disrespect" for the Jaguars around the league and the growing chemistry within the Jaguars locker room.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Week fifteen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shatrick with you for our countdown to kickoff interviews
this week, and let's start with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor. The Jets are in talent at
three and ten, the Jaguars at nine and four. The
Jagson one four straight, five and one since the bye week,
and it's a pretty good time to be a Jaguar fan.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Fred, It's a great time to be a Jaguar fan.
That's see him jumping off the Red Bull blimp. That's
way up in the stratosphere. They're like just one and
in from everywhere nowadays.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But it's cool. You know, it's cool to.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Have fairweather fans. I mean, you're doing a really good
good job. If you bring the fairweather fans out of
it would work. But I think really for the most part,
the fans have been pretty supportive throughout the entire course
of the season.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
The stadium has been pretty full.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's what we want to see, and we want to
see this outcome. Quite naturally, no one probably anticipated this outcome.
With the new coaches staff, and you know, the new
front off is new regime change. You don't always get
this result that immediately. But Liam has come in, He's
did a wonderful job. James uh had Gladstone has done
(01:08):
a wonderful job. Tony Bucelli, you know, uh and his
new role has done a wonderful job. So this is
what you want, you know, from from the team as
a fan base, This is what you know. You you
anticipate year in, year out, and uh, you know, big
shout out to the du villions.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Is it do villions?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Can we make up a new word because sometimes we
are like the villains around the league?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Do villains do volumes?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Dude? We can figure it out. All lights do all lights?
I don't know if that's right. That's kind of soft.
I think that's a little soft.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We need something to kind of go with the whole
theme of, you know, do villions because we like the
villains new villains.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't know. We'll figure it out, all right, Fred.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
The New York Jets are coming in three and ten,
the Jaguars nine and four. Is that disrespect word being
thrown around the villain to hear? The Jags have been
admitted from some of the national conversation the last couple
of weeks, but they're lead the division and they're number
three in the AFC playoff race. I mean, I guess
Liam Cohen needs something to kind of prod this team,
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or does he?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I go back to one of our episodes on The Pivot.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We recently had Darren Woodson on there, coached by the
great Jimmy Johnson, and he said, Jimmy Johnson would go
down and change ends. He would go to the offense
and say, Hey, those dudes talking you know, crap about
you guys, man, don't let that happen. He would go
to the defense and tell them the same thing, when
in fact no one had ever said anything. So really,
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like in the words of my former and good friend
Trevor Mowai in one of his books, it takes what
it takes, you know, whatever that is, that's what it
takes to get your team motivated. I'm with it, And
what I would like JP is for the guys not
to mind the.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Public or the media as much. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now, if you want to put that up there and
it'll come across as bulletin board material, then fine. If
you need us or a motivational lead, great, But me
I like to operate under the radar sometimes unless you're
Mike DAWs, right, and then then we go and play.
Then we still have to compete on Sundays and get
the victories. Then, so I'll let my play due to
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talking if it were me from here on out, and
then I'll meet you where I see yat, which is
hopefully playing football late in January and early February.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Fred Taylor with us last week, Trevor Lawrence had a
deep completion in each quarter. That's a great sign for
this offense. If they're having a connection down the field,
it opens up a lot of things moving ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, way back Willie. What's his name is it?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Willie?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Some stuff I'm hearing on social media about Willy is
like his alter ego or something like that. They say
he's turning Willie when he makes those type of plays.
I don't even know what that means. But maybe we
could do some research something I saw on social media,
or maybe you can ask the guys in the locker
room who will he is.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But you know, Trevor, you know, we all thought that
was one of his best games.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
In regardless of that, you don't have to have those
high performance statistically type games. You just have to have
that consistent feel, and I think Trevor's been as consistent
this year in this stretch as he has been the
previous four years. Yeah, four years, right, and you know
that's all you want from your quarterback. There's gonna be
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ebbs and flows, but you want more consistency. I would
take more consistent performances at that level than a four
hundred yard passing day or even a three hundred and
fifty yard passing day. Just give me consistency where you're
completing close to sixty percent of your passes, some big
plays here and there, great on third downs, and really
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just managing the game with no turnovers.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Travis et And is closing in on a thousand yards
in a contract year, and you know, in the locker
room the other day kind.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Of just kind of shoot it away.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's like we're battling for the division and the whole thing,
but as a running back in a contract year, Yeah,
it's it's a big moment for him and the way
this thing has gone this year, the way they've run
the ball pretty effectively all season. What do you want
to see from Etn down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I just want him to be steady as well. I
guess that's my request from the Clemson duo is just,
you know, just continue to be consistent. They've been a
bright spot on the offense. You know, I cheer for it, Travis' success,
you know, I'm thankful. You know, I'm hopeful that he
continues to you know, play at dis trajectory so he
can continue to earn financially for himself and you know,
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his future family prospects, if I would call it that.
But he's a good dude man, a good person, and
you root for good people. He has some ups and down,
but he stayed steady. Some part of it I'm familiar with,
but you know, he kind of just shoot the critics away, man.
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And he's now fifty yards per game. If he can
average that much to finish the season, which I believe
he can, then he'll eclips his own single season career mark,
getting close to twelve hundred yards right there on the ground.
So I'm rooting for him, and I'm sure he knows
he has my full support.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Brent Taylor with US Jaguars defense this week, going up
against the Jets offense that really struggling and they've had
quarterback injury issues. They're not sure, who's really going to.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Play this week?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Could be the third guy, but you know, this is
a Jags defense. It's hitting its stride as well. It
feels like no matter who lines up against them, and
they feel like if they can stop the run, they
can play against anybody. How challenging is a week like this,
I guess really for the defense, but overall to be
up and ready for a team that's struggling like the Jets.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know what they I think they know. I think
they've gotten a message. They've played all sorts of games.
You go out West Coast and play Vegas Raiders and
that was considered a trap game. It was a close game,
but mentally they got through it ot the whole deal.
Then they got to bounce back and play, you know,
another opponent and the Chargers, who were you know, a
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game that they really needed.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
They had to really get up for that game. Much
like the Monday night game versus the Chief, another game
that's easy to get up for.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
This game, they understand what's that stake and I think
that's all the motivation they need. The fact that they're
hitting their strides. You know, they're comfortable, you know, in
Campanelli's defense. And you know, and I think, really what
it's going to come down to East guys just doing
their job, you know, remaining focused on their individual job
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at hand, remaining discipline, which is what they've done a
great job at.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
This year.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You haven't seen many big plays, like big big plays
for touchdowns, you know, some ben but don't break plays
where they might give up fifteen here or twenty year,
but they continue to stay in it and hold a
team to hold the opponents to a field goal, which
is what they've been great at. So they just got
continue to keep that up, continue to get guys healthy,
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you can continue to support each other and they'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's a stretch run important December football, four games to go.
Texans are on their heels. There's no room for air here,
but nothing's been clenched. So this is what everybody signs
up for.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
This is what they sign up for.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You got a three and ten team, probably the position
Jacksonville was in a year ago. Now they're top dog
in the division. Coach's got a long way to go.
But the Jacks can't look back because the pesky Texans
are you know, they're not far away, and they're playing
really solid football here late in December too, which is
when you have to turn it up, JP, which is
when I always turned it up. And this is you know,
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it's unfair. I think, you know, I don't want to
even go back there down that road. But I'll just
mentioned I played my best football in December. Nobody's voting
on the Pro Bowl in December. I mean they're voting
on it, but they don't count the December games. I
feel a little slighted every time I think about that.
Come on, now, you gotta count the entirety of the
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season because it counts if.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You play them, if they keep score, it counts.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You should. But I digress. That milk is already spilled.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
JPA. That's right, a moment. I'm having a moment. Well
I'm entitled to those. I'm just having a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's okay, man, you're our Pro bowler all the time
on the show.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So man, you know I love me some Douvall baby.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Thanks Fred.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, brother, Now to the locker room, where Brian
Sexson caught up with better wide receiver Tim Patrick.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Been around a team that's made a deep run with expectations,
how do you compare this team. What do you see
in this team that gives you the sense that maybe
they're like other teams you've been on that are ready
for the run.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This team is a little bit different than what I've
been a part of last year. Being with Detroit, we
knew who we were and we knew what we were
capable of, and it was just about us performing on
game day. This team, we've been learning each and every week,
finding the identity, not playing our best ball yet, but
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still winning games. And it's just one of those things
where it's all about who gets hot at the right time,
and I feel like we're on track to do that.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
There are a couple of guys like you, Jacobe being
another and Greg Newsom who came in here after training camp,
and yet you've assimilated it and become a part of
this thing so quickly. What's that like to go from
being someplace to another place and not just standing on
the sidelines.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
You're learning whole new system and you don't really know
how to verbalize it to the coaches what they're trying
to have you do. But it's a testament to them.
Bringing in It just shows that they're just bringing in
football players guys that fit in all schemes. It doesn't
matter situation you put them in, they're going to be successful.
So shout out to them.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You were talking about the quarterback earlier. In some of
the throws that he made. It sure seems like he's
finding his stride as a receiver. Do you see that, Yes,
he's been.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
He's been having full control of our offense and just
carrying us like, even when they might not be the
best play, he makes something happen. Maybe if the receivers
don't get open, he makes something happen. And he's he's
fully taking control of this offense and it's shawing weekend
and week out with the big ones be having.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
You give me a sense of this offensive wide receiver group.
It appears you've got like a basketball team. You've got
somebody that can play every position. What's it like to
have that kind of a group this late in the
season and everyone's getting healthy? Dangerous for someone else? Isn't
it competitive?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Very competitive.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
It's fun because it gives a coach more confidence. Is
a call open up the playbook because he knows every
guy could go out there and make a play. And
it's competitive on our side, like who could get open
more on film so you could get the ball, Moorse.
It's it's just one of those things where we're in
competition with ourselves to see who could do the best.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm sure the competitiveness there is for the rock, which
means you're blocking downfield, Kelly. He was just telling me,
takes all eleven in the running game, and this team
is running the ball well to set up the passing game.
What's your perspective on the way that these guys block
and how much it produces.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It's it's fun.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
The way you're having fun.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I take it a.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Lot of fun, a lot of fun. It's a blocking
is all a want too man, either one to or
you don't. And when all eleven takes pride in it,
you have a great running game. And it's just when
you see receivers and tidings that get excited for a
touchdown run, you know you know you're doing something right.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Final thought, you came from Detroit to Jacksonville, which was
coming off a win season. You couldn't have known what
you were getting. How much fun are you having with
this football team right now? And you've used the word
fun several times. And I don't mean to keep hammering it,
but you must feel really good about the spot that
you're in.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I feel great.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I knew when I was told my choices of where
I could go. I looked at the roster and seeing
they had so much talent, and all it took was
the right head man to really hone in on the talent.
And everything I thought was going to happen here is happening.
It probably didn't happen as fast, but it's happening slowly
but surely.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Mike Dempsey each week discuss the Jaguars football with CBS
senior writer Pete Prisco.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Well, what I would do is I would reference that
Tennessee game from a couple of weeks ago, because it
was classic same type of situation. Although you weren't coming
off with a big, big win like you did last week.
You were coming off a road win. You came home
and then you had to go back out on the
road in between playing the Colts and what was a
big game, and they handled business and do the same thing.
You know, if I'm Liam Cohnham telling them, look, get
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on them early in the game and in the second half.
You don't have to sweat it out and worry about it.
So I think that's what you have to do. You
got to go back to what your experience has been.
And I think that's one of the recent ones and
I think they can build on that.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
And speaking of building on it, Trevor Lawrence has given
a couple of really good performances the last couple of weeks,
particularly last week was very sharp throwing the ball downfield.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Pete.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
You're going up against a team that has not produced
an interception all year. This seems like a great another
stepping stone for Trevor to continue to build that confidence.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Absolutely, and I think you know, you look around that
team and what people always ask, well, why is he
playing better football? If the offensive line is protecting better,
his eye level isn't coming down, he's standing in the pocket,
he's got a better pocket feel. I think the receivers
are more reliable and he trusts them a lot more.
And when you see it, yeah, he's you know, he's
getting the ball out, he's taking those shots down the field,
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and I think that's changed the dynamic of the offense.
And obviously this is a game where you can try
and build on that before you get to some bigger
games down the road.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
Yeah, we've raved about the impact that Jacoby Myers has
made in terms of the consistent and seeing the trust factor.
But Brian Thomas has come back in the last couple
of weeks and made a numerous big plays.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Pete, how big is that?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
Just to have that element back of stretching the field
in this passing game, Well, it's enormous.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
You know, you can't play, you know, with a force
field at twenty yards. I think you've got to be
able to stretch the defense and take those shots down
the field. And Brian Thomas is that guy. And I
think getting Jacoby Myers has kind of, you know, bled
over to him as a player, but it's also bled
over into the offense because Jacoby Myers can do the
dirty work in the middle of the field. He's one
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of those guys you can rely on. He's a pros pro.
And I think Brian Thomas is the last couple of
weeks since coming back, his routes are crisper, he looks
more engaged, his body language is better, and I think
he's you know, being able to make plays down the
field gets him going. So I think it's an enormous
part of what they do going forward.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Well, you mentioned the offensive line play as well, and
Cole van Landon has been a big part of that.
A versatile tool can play just about anywhere on that
line and play pretty well. Pete and a lot of
people are calling for that to be the move at
left tackle now, and there is value, I think, to
having a guy who's the next man up at so
many positions because then if you have an injury, you
don't have to shuffle things around at multiple spots. But
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if it were up to you, Pete Prisco is running
the Jaguars, would Cole vang land And be your starting left.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Tackle, absolutely, no question about it. I thought he was
outstanding last week, really held up in pass protection, good
in the run game. You know, plays with a violent streak.
And I think he's the guy that has to start
at left tackle now. I know there's value of him
being able to play all those other positions, but you
can still shuffle in game if need be. I just
think the value is there for him to be your
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starting left tackle.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
All right, let's switch it over to the defense here.
Pete and without Andrew Winger last week, they had been
without Eric Murray for a while. He came back, but
in the meantime, Antonio Johnson says quietly, putting together a
pretty nice season. It seems like a good problem to have.
They got three safeties really for two spots, but you.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Know they'll use a lot of defenses where they play, yeah,
so you know that's a you know, and both Johnson
and wingerd are probably better near the line of scrimmage
than they are in the deep middle. So it's a
nice situation to have. You mentioned Johnson. I think the
biggest difference for him is understanding the assignments and playing
assignment football. Remember early in the year he had some
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assignment bus He had a lot of them last year.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But he seems to.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Be growing in confidence, and he's an athletic kid. He
can come up and play in the box and hit
gen tackle you. And I think Murray is kind of
a blue back there, and I think he needs to
be a big part of the defense. So you can
use all three of them. I don't know which two
you'll start, but I would imagine it would probably go
back to what it was before Murray went out of
the lineup well, and.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
They've shown a willingness to just play whoever's playing the
best football right now. You've got some guys who are
not in household names at the beginning of the year
getting a lot of reps, particularly on the defensive line.
Danny Strigo, Matt Dickerson's snaps have been increasing in recent weeks.
What does that say about this coaching staff that they're
finding kind of some diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
And you know what, the old at their mistakes as
an organization, which I like. I mean, you know, you
you went out and got some veterans and those guys,
you know, Austin Johnson and Ogwa we're in active last
week and you played the young guys. And Strigil has
been a revelation. I mean, let's be real, nobody saw
that coming. He's not, you know, he's not an athletically
gifted guy in terms of being able to get Ben
to turn the corner before. He plays hard. He's good
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against the run, he'll crack down on blocks, and I
think he's a nice addition to that defensive front. And
you mentioned Dickerson. Dickerson's been you know, up and down,
and he's done a nice job and he's earned himself
in elevation. So I'm the same way. You play the
best players, and right now those guys are the best players.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Pete, what's your prediction for today?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
I think they get on them early, and just like
the Titans game, don't have to sweat it out in
the second half. This is not a good Jets football team.
You don't want to get caught in the fourth quarter
in a game, and so don't turn it over. Play
your game. You'll handle the Jets, and then you move
on to Denver and worry about bigger and better things
next week.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bryan Sexton this week with assistant offensive line coach and
run game specialist.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Kale Here's the first question, why are you awesome?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
How.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I guess how I was raised, you know, I just
I have so much fun out of here, and I'm
having a good time with the guys, great guys to
work with, the line, the coaching staff, so it's nothing
to be mad at us. I was just great to
be here and having fun.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
That's the feeling I get when I watch this team.
Have they had fun all season? Or is there a
switch that's flipped since the bye week? When this team
is playing well? It gets more fun. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I think definitely there was a type of switch after
the bye week.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
You know, obviously we didn't do as great as we
wanted to going into the bye, but I think every
week our guys just got closer and closer with each other,
just the camaraderie. Speaking of online specifically, their bond has
gotten closer. The bond with the other guys has gotten
closer since the buye and it's really has been progressing
through off the whole season. And I think that's what
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you're seeing now, is that that progression.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
And thirty two years of covering this leg. I have
a statement from a guy that told me years ago
that running the ball is an attitude.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It really is.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
So tell me about the attitude of your offensive line
and where it stems from.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think it stems from the guys that we have.
Speaker 10 (20:08):
I think it's it's, uh, you know, bringing the right
guys together again and talking about the camaraderie with each
other and how that's been built over the season.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I think they don't want to let each other down.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
I think that that that bond, that that love for
each other, for the game, for the pride of the unit.
That's where the biggest physicality and aggressiveness has come from.
And I think that has been shown as just their
commitment to each other is being displayed on the field.
And so I think that's how that's why we have
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been doing the things that we've been doing, is because
of that bond, that trust with each other that they
can play confident and run off the ball and play strong,
play tough.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
It's because they trust everyone around them and that trust.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
We've seen offensive lines, you know, all offensive lines have
had injuries. You've had some and no matter where you
plug people in, you're getting strong contributions. Is that the
trust you're talking about where guys trust another that they
can play left guard or left tackle or right guard,
right tackle.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I mean it starts with the guy. The players.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
You know, we have a lot of guys that that
trust the process, that trust what we're doing, and they're
committed to learning all positions because everyone knows, you know,
one guy can be hurt and someone has to step in.
And I think again, over the whole season, even going
through the spring, it's like building the trust with each other.
Even we didn't know who was going to start, who
was going to play, It's like, hey, everyone's got to
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be on it themselves and everyone can trust.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
That the other guy is doing their job as well.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
So I think that's you know, we're kind of we
had no worries if someone went down because we have
guys that have like Cole, like Chumua, you know, Wi's
been in there, Jonah has played a game like everyone
trust each other because they've built that mind since the spring,
since training camp, throughout the season. And I think that's
what you're seeing is the trust with each other has
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been just accumulation of all that, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I asked Sean as he was walking off the field
and said, what do you ask for your run game specialists?
And he said, without you, he would always feel the
day behind you. You're always looking ahead, You're always trying
to have a jump on it. Tell me about what
your role is run game specialist is all about.
Speaker 10 (22:11):
You know, I guess my my job, my responsibility is
kind of get the guys, you know, seeing what we've
been doing good at and seeing how we can you know,
progress in that way because we have a foundation that
we're with. It's just finding how our players are the
best that they can be. And so sometimes it might
be as much as a cool play could happen. You know,
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my job is to make sure like hey, you know,
kind of hold back. It's like, hey, didn't work. You know,
that's cool, but you know that's not what we're good at,
or we're not we're not we're not at that level yet,
or if we're not, that's not us.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I'm trying to find us plays.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
I think that's the biggest thing that I can provide
for our guys, for Sean, for our players is you know,
you know, finding us is continually finding us plays rather
than flashy plays.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
You know.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
It's so it's just and then and just being there
as finding solutions. You know, things have kind to come up.
The game is not black and white. It's it's you know,
there's a lot of gray in the areas. And it's
my job to you know, make sure that the rules,
things that we have done, the things that we have
progressed through the whole year, how is that going to
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marriage so that on game day they can play freely.
I think that's the kind of big thing that I
try to make sure that our guys have is to
play free and confident when they're out there, no matter
what they're going to see and the US.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Obviously, it is more than just the offensive line. It's
those three backs. Can you give me an appreciation for
those guys and how well they work. I mean, I
think Travis etn has been one of the best players
on this team since the first day of camp.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean, Travis, bachel lequint, They've all been doing
a great job.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
They all have a role. They all trust each other.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Again, it's building that trust that we've built with each
other in the line room. It's it's spreading through all
the units, through the offense to the team. As you
can see, Yeah, they've been doing a great job. They hard,
they run hard, they have no complaints. They you know,
they keep to you know what we're trying to do.
They keep talking with the on line. And then it's
seeming I think there's been a pull push of even
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our receivers too, going in there and blocking, and it's
become a we always talk about the run game is
all eleven. All elmen have to be on the same page,
all limits have to be blocking, you know, and you
can see it. Our receivers are running downfield, getting blocks,
getting touchdown blocks, you know, playing hard and you know,
that's what you'd love to see on Sunday, you know,
when everyone's happy for the touchdowns and because.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Everyone's doing their job with each other.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
And that's and that's kind of been the running backs
doing their job, whin I'm doing their job, tight ends, receivers,
quarterbacks doing great on the fake, you know, and then
now you know a quarterback has ran the ball a
couple of times. Now they got to trust what he's doing.
So I think it's accumulation of all those things.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Let's end with this.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I think I'm watching a team practicing at a very
high level and that's why you're playing well.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This team is really doing a lot on the practice
field during the week.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Yeah, I mean we've been cutting down on you know,
physical physical things and trying to get in more of
protecting their body, and towards the end of the year,
I think they took the mature level and each week
they're maturing.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
More and more.
Speaker 10 (25:13):
As what you're seeing now, you know, playing at the
technique that we need to be playing at. So I mean,
have to be physical, but we're still getting enough out
of the practice that we want. But you can you
need to totally see in the last two weeks, especially
right now, the level of execution and focus and discipline
and technique is you know, we can protect the body
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but also go out and be physical on game day.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So hopefully you're having a lot of fun today. Best
to block against the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And finally this week NFL on CBS analyst Ross Tucker,
nice to have you first time on the Jags this season, Ross,
what's up?
Speaker 11 (25:51):
You know, it's not only my first time on the
Jags this season, this is my first time ever doing
a Jags game for CBS. I don't know how it
worked out that way, JP, because I end up doing
a lot of AFC South games. I mean I've done
the last three years. I had to have done six
Titans games, four Texans games, at least a couple of
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Colts games. For whatever reason, it never worked out that
I got the Jags. So not only am I glad
I'm getting the Jags when they're nine and four and
in first place I'm getting I'm getting the Jags when
it's absolutely freezing in Pennsylvania where I live. So it's
been nice to be down here, that's for sure. And
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also you know they're good. I mean, they're good, they're
playing well, and I'm excited for the fan base.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm excited for everybody associated with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, what surprises you most about this nine and four
team so far?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
Yeah, there's a bunch of things that I think if
you would have told me before the year that they'd
be nine and four, I probably would have said, Okay,
you know, it really worked with Travis Hunter and with
Brian Thomas and they're lighting the world on fire, and
Liam Cohen's offense and looking like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin,
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and you know that hasn't been the case.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think that's one of the things that's so interesting about.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
It is you would have thought that it'd be Air
Cohen and you know, Brian Thomas would have picked up
where he left off last year and Hunter with who
they made the big trade, the bold move for. But
I think on some level that has to make you
feel even better as a Jags fan that you know,
they got a really good team and they're playing really well,
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despite the fact that you know, up until this last
game against Indy, you know, it hadn't been a great
year for Brian Thomas, and they really haven't and aren't
gonna get much from Travis Hunter, and yet here they
are still playing really, really well, and really even Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Has been up and down.
Speaker 11 (27:59):
So I think a lot of the credit as a
result of everything I just said has to go to
Liam Cohen and the coaching staff, Anthony Campanelliot of course,
and what he's been able to get done on defense.
But I think that would be really encouraging if I
were a Jags fan to think, man, we're nine and
four and we haven't really even been firing in all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He kind of blew to that game against the Texans.
Speaker 11 (28:26):
It really makes you open your eyes to what the
possibilities could and maybe will be at some point.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Ross Tucker with us, the analyst for the NFL on CBS.
The Jaguars have had a lot of in and out
of the lineup on the offensive line this year. You're
a former offensive lineman, so you know it's hard to
keep that consistency, but it feels like, you know, they've
been able to kind of handle some of the injuries.
Week or two injuries here there the offensive line. Cove
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and Landon a big piece of that. But how difficult
is that to maintain consistency on the O line when there's.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Cons and changes, Well, it's not easy at all.
Speaker 11 (29:03):
And I think continuity, chemistry some of the terms that
get thrown out there, those are real things, JP, I mean,
I can just speak to that.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know, the more you play next to somebody, the.
Speaker 11 (29:16):
More comfortable you get with them, even like you and
I get a chance to do games on radio every
once in a while. You know, the second time we
did a game, it felt even better than the first time,
and the third time, and the more you and I
get to do games together. That's just the natural evolution
of life, I think. And so for them to be
able to have guys in that lineup and still to
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perform as well as they have, it's almost like ever
since Shad Khan hired Tony Vasselli as the Executive VP
of Football Operations or whatever fancy title that Tony has,
you know, it's like it's like he sprinkled his magic
O line pixie dust on these guys. I mean, let's
not lose sight of the fact that Robert Hainsey more
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or less was told by the Bucks that he wasn't
a starter, you know. Patrick McCarry was more or less
told by the Ravens, Hey, we think you're a swing guy,
you know. Cole Van Lannon, I mean he might be
the I don't know what if they have team awards,
but he might be the most underappreciated, underrated player on
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the team. He looked darn good at left tackle against
the Colts. He's played every spot and so I think
that's what I appreciate as much as any is the
makeup of the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, somebody made a decision there.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
I don't know how much of that's Biselli, how much
that's Cohen, how much of that's Gladstone. But they said
we're gonna get smart, tough, versatile guys in here, like McCarry,
like Hansey, like Cole Van Lannon.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And it has really paid off.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Ross Tucker with US Jaguars defense number one in the
league against the and it's about all the Jets have
left in the tank as Brice Hole right now. They're
on their third quarterback, so they really don't have a quarterback.
So this Jaguars defense is poised to at least go
again on paper, to have another strong outing.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
What scares you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Here's the question about the Jets at three and ten.
How can they win and compete in this game? What
scares you the most if you're the Jaguars looking at
the Jets this week?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
A couple things.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
First of all, anytime a team is a big underdog,
it's turnovers. I think we know that, so turnovers can
always be the great equalizer in football at any level.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's number one.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
That's kind of obvious for this Jets team in particular.
I'll give you three things. Number one would be sort
of the unknown, you know, with having a guy making
his you know, first started quarterback and everything that's going
on there, you don't really know what you're gonna get
from Brady Cook.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, maybe he's the next Tom Brady.
Speaker 11 (32:04):
I don't know, you know, I'm I'm I'm obviously it's
highly highly unlikely, but the point remains, you don't really
know what you have. You don't have a lot of
tape on him. I also say he definitely showed some moxie,
uh some poise.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I loved him at Missouri.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
I thought he was a super fun college quarterback to watch,
and I think part of that's because he can really
run and so that's the other thing that scares you
as a defensive coordinator is when you're going up against
the team where the quarterback's legs can be a factor.
So you got the unknown, you got the legs being
a fact, you got the turnovers. And then the big
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one is special teams. You know, they've won three ball
games this year. They really won two games primarily on
special teams. I won't say entirely because that's unfair of
the other guys, but in large part on special teams.
That's the reason why they were able to win those game.
So that's the type of thing that keeps coaches up
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at night because you think, gosh, we can't let them,
you know, block upon or return a kick for a
touchdown and somehow somehow blow a game that we shouldn't
lose because of that.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ross Tucker with US NFL and CBS. Final thought with
you here about the AFC playoff picture. Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Steelers.
Those are the top four seeds going into Week fifteen.
Then there's a wild card teams back there too. Who
is the favorite right now in the AFC? It feels
like this is kind of a strange year. There's not
really a team that kind of stood out all season.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
I'm going with New England. Yeah, I'm going with New
England because I think they're still the most likely team
to get the number one seed. And that's just an
absolutely massive advantage. I mean, the difference between you know,
having to play three games, including one or two on
the road, maybe even all three, versus just two games
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up there in New England is huge. They've got, you know,
a legitimate quarterback. You know, they got an MVP caliber quarterback.
I don't think you can say that for the Denver Broncos.
I think you can say that for the Patriots. I
believe Drake May is that good. So you combine those
two things. Certainly, Rabel and McDaniels, those are not the
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type of guys that will blink in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'll go with New England.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
But you know, I don't think it would shock anybody
if anybody came out of the AFC just because of
what we've seen from the whole conference this year. I mean,
you know, would it shock me if the Bills went
on a run or even the Ravens got their you
know what together went on a run.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
No, Ross pleasure to catch up with you again. It's
been too long and welcome to Duvall.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Hey, I am glad to be here. It is nice out,
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The three and ten New York Jants meet the nine
and four Jacksonville Jaguars in Week fifteen.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Enjoy the game.
Welcome to Week fifteen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shatrick with you for our countdown to kickoff interviews
this week, and let's start with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor. The Jets are in talent at
three and ten, the Jaguars at nine and four. The
Jagson one four straight, five and one since the bye week,
and it's a pretty good time to be a Jaguar fan.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Fred, It's a great time to be a Jaguar fan.
That's see him jumping off the Red Bull blimp. That's
way up in the stratosphere. They're like just one and
in from everywhere nowadays.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
But it's cool. You know, it's cool to.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Have fairweather fans. I mean, you're doing a really good
good job. If you bring the fairweather fans out of
it would work. But I think really for the most part,
the fans have been pretty supportive throughout the entire course
of the season.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
The stadium has been pretty full.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's what we want to see, and we want to
see this outcome. Quite naturally, no one probably anticipated this outcome.
With the new coaches staff, and you know, the new
front off is new regime change. You don't always get
this result that immediately. But Liam has come in, He's
did a wonderful job. James uh had Gladstone has done
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a wonderful job. Tony Bucelli, you know, uh and his
new role has done a wonderful job. So this is
what you want, you know, from from the team as
a fan base, This is what you know. You you
anticipate year in, year out, and uh, you know, big
shout out to the du villions.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Is it do villions?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Can we make up a new word because sometimes we
are like the villains around the league?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Do villains do volumes?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Dude? We can figure it out. All lights do all lights?
I don't know if that's right. That's kind of soft.
I think that's a little soft.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We need something to kind of go with the whole
theme of, you know, do villions because we like the
villains new villains.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I don't know. We'll figure it out, all right, Fred.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
The New York Jets are coming in three and ten,
the Jaguars nine and four. Is that disrespect word being
thrown around the villain to hear? The Jags have been
admitted from some of the national conversation the last couple
of weeks, but they're lead the division and they're number
three in the AFC playoff race. I mean, I guess
Liam Cohen needs something to kind of prod this team,
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or does he?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
I go back to one of our episodes on The Pivot.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We recently had Darren Woodson on there, coached by the
great Jimmy Johnson, and he said, Jimmy Johnson would go
down and change ends. He would go to the offense
and say, Hey, those dudes talking you know, crap about
you guys, man, don't let that happen. He would go
to the defense and tell them the same thing, when
in fact no one had ever said anything. So really,
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like in the words of my former and good friend
Trevor Mowai in one of his books, it takes what
it takes, you know, whatever that is, that's what it
takes to get your team motivated. I'm with it, And
what I would like JP is for the guys not
to mind the.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Public or the media as much. You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now, if you want to put that up there and
it'll come across as bulletin board material, then fine. If
you need us or a motivational lead, great, But me
I like to operate under the radar sometimes unless you're
Mike DAWs, right, and then then we go and play.
Then we still have to compete on Sundays and get
the victories. Then, so I'll let my play due to
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talking if it were me from here on out, and
then I'll meet you where I see yat, which is
hopefully playing football late in January and early February.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Fred Taylor with us last week, Trevor Lawrence had a
deep completion in each quarter. That's a great sign for
this offense. If they're having a connection down the field,
it opens up a lot of things moving ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Yeah, way back Willie. What's his name is it?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Willie?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Some stuff I'm hearing on social media about Willy is
like his alter ego or something like that. They say
he's turning Willie when he makes those type of plays.
I don't even know what that means. But maybe we
could do some research something I saw on social media,
or maybe you can ask the guys in the locker
room who will he is.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But you know, Trevor, you know, we all thought that
was one of his best games.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
In regardless of that, you don't have to have those
high performance statistically type games. You just have to have
that consistent feel, and I think Trevor's been as consistent
this year in this stretch as he has been the
previous four years. Yeah, four years, right, and you know
that's all you want from your quarterback. There's gonna be
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ebbs and flows, but you want more consistency. I would
take more consistent performances at that level than a four
hundred yard passing day or even a three hundred and
fifty yard passing day. Just give me consistency where you're
completing close to sixty percent of your passes, some big
plays here and there, great on third downs, and really
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just managing the game with no turnovers.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Travis et And is closing in on a thousand yards
in a contract year, and you know, in the locker
room the other day kind.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Of just kind of shoot it away.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's like we're battling for the division and the whole thing,
but as a running back in a contract year, Yeah,
it's it's a big moment for him and the way
this thing has gone this year, the way they've run
the ball pretty effectively all season. What do you want
to see from Etn down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I just want him to be steady as well. I
guess that's my request from the Clemson duo is just,
you know, just continue to be consistent. They've been a
bright spot on the offense. You know, I cheer for it, Travis' success,
you know, I'm thankful. You know, I'm hopeful that he
continues to you know, play at dis trajectory so he
can continue to earn financially for himself and you know,
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his future family prospects, if I would call it that.
But he's a good dude man, a good person, and
you root for good people. He has some ups and down,
but he stayed steady. Some part of it I'm familiar with,
but you know, he kind of just shoot the critics away, man.
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And he's now fifty yards per game. If he can
average that much to finish the season, which I believe
he can, then he'll eclips his own single season career mark,
getting close to twelve hundred yards right there on the ground.
So I'm rooting for him, and I'm sure he knows
he has my full support.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Brent Taylor with US Jaguars defense this week, going up
against the Jets offense that really struggling and they've had
quarterback injury issues. They're not sure, who's really going to.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Play this week?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Could be the third guy, but you know, this is
a Jags defense. It's hitting its stride as well. It
feels like no matter who lines up against them, and
they feel like if they can stop the run, they
can play against anybody. How challenging is a week like this,
I guess really for the defense, but overall to be
up and ready for a team that's struggling like the Jets.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know what they I think they know. I think
they've gotten a message. They've played all sorts of games.
You go out West Coast and play Vegas Raiders and
that was considered a trap game. It was a close game,
but mentally they got through it ot the whole deal.
Then they got to bounce back and play, you know,
another opponent and the Chargers, who were you know, a
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game that they really needed.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
They had to really get up for that game. Much
like the Monday night game versus the Chief, another game
that's easy to get up for.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
This game, they understand what's that stake and I think
that's all the motivation they need. The fact that they're
hitting their strides. You know, they're comfortable, you know, in
Campanelli's defense. And you know, and I think, really what
it's going to come down to East guys just doing
their job, you know, remaining focused on their individual job
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at hand, remaining discipline, which is what they've done a
great job at.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
This year.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You haven't seen many big plays, like big big plays
for touchdowns, you know, some ben but don't break plays
where they might give up fifteen here or twenty year,
but they continue to stay in it and hold a
team to hold the opponents to a field goal, which
is what they've been great at. So they just got
continue to keep that up, continue to get guys healthy,
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you can continue to support each other and they'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's a stretch run important December football, four games to go.
Texans are on their heels. There's no room for air here,
but nothing's been clenched. So this is what everybody signs
up for.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
This is what they sign up for.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
You got a three and ten team, probably the position
Jacksonville was in a year ago. Now they're top dog
in the division. Coach's got a long way to go.
But the Jacks can't look back because the pesky Texans
are you know, they're not far away, and they're playing
really solid football here late in December too, which is
when you have to turn it up, JP, which is
when I always turned it up. And this is you know,
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it's unfair. I think, you know, I don't want to
even go back there down that road. But I'll just
mentioned I played my best football in December. Nobody's voting
on the Pro Bowl in December. I mean they're voting
on it, but they don't count the December games. I
feel a little slighted every time I think about that.
Come on, now, you gotta count the entirety of the
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season because it counts if.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You play them, if they keep score, it counts.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You should. But I digress. That milk is already spilled.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
JPA. That's right, a moment. I'm having a moment. Well
I'm entitled to those. I'm just having a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's okay, man, you're our Pro bowler all the time
on the show.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So man, you know I love me some Douvall baby.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Thanks Fred.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
All right, brother, Now to the locker room, where Brian
Sexson caught up with better wide receiver Tim Patrick.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
Been around a team that's made a deep run with expectations,
how do you compare this team. What do you see
in this team that gives you the sense that maybe
they're like other teams you've been on that are ready
for the run.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This team is a little bit different than what I've
been a part of last year. Being with Detroit, we
knew who we were and we knew what we were
capable of, and it was just about us performing on
game day. This team, we've been learning each and every week,
finding the identity, not playing our best ball yet, but
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still winning games. And it's just one of those things
where it's all about who gets hot at the right time,
and I feel like we're on track to do that.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
There are a couple of guys like you, Jacobe being
another and Greg Newsom who came in here after training camp,
and yet you've assimilated it and become a part of
this thing so quickly. What's that like to go from
being someplace to another place and not just standing on
the sidelines.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
You're learning whole new system and you don't really know
how to verbalize it to the coaches what they're trying
to have you do. But it's a testament to them.
Bringing in It just shows that they're just bringing in
football players guys that fit in all schemes. It doesn't
matter situation you put them in, they're going to be successful.
So shout out to them.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
You were talking about the quarterback earlier. In some of
the throws that he made. It sure seems like he's
finding his stride as a receiver. Do you see that, Yes,
he's been.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
He's been having full control of our offense and just
carrying us like, even when they might not be the
best play, he makes something happen. Maybe if the receivers
don't get open, he makes something happen. And he's he's
fully taking control of this offense and it's shawing weekend
and week out with the big ones be having.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
You give me a sense of this offensive wide receiver group.
It appears you've got like a basketball team. You've got
somebody that can play every position. What's it like to
have that kind of a group this late in the
season and everyone's getting healthy? Dangerous for someone else? Isn't
it competitive?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Very competitive.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
It's fun because it gives a coach more confidence. Is
a call open up the playbook because he knows every
guy could go out there and make a play. And
it's competitive on our side, like who could get open
more on film so you could get the ball, Moorse.
It's it's just one of those things where we're in
competition with ourselves to see who could do the best.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm sure the competitiveness there is for the rock, which
means you're blocking downfield, Kelly. He was just telling me,
takes all eleven in the running game, and this team
is running the ball well to set up the passing game.
What's your perspective on the way that these guys block
and how much it produces.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It's it's fun.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
The way you're having fun.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I take it a.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Lot of fun, a lot of fun. It's a blocking
is all a want too man, either one to or
you don't. And when all eleven takes pride in it,
you have a great running game. And it's just when
you see receivers and tidings that get excited for a
touchdown run, you know you know you're doing something right.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Final thought, you came from Detroit to Jacksonville, which was
coming off a win season. You couldn't have known what
you were getting. How much fun are you having with
this football team right now? And you've used the word
fun several times. And I don't mean to keep hammering it,
but you must feel really good about the spot that
you're in.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I feel great.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
I knew when I was told my choices of where
I could go. I looked at the roster and seeing
they had so much talent, and all it took was
the right head man to really hone in on the talent.
And everything I thought was going to happen here is happening.
It probably didn't happen as fast, but it's happening slowly
but surely.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Mike Dempsey each week discuss the Jaguars football with CBS
senior writer Pete Prisco.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
Well, what I would do is I would reference that
Tennessee game from a couple of weeks ago, because it
was classic same type of situation. Although you weren't coming
off with a big, big win like you did last week.
You were coming off a road win. You came home
and then you had to go back out on the
road in between playing the Colts and what was a
big game, and they handled business and do the same thing.
You know, if I'm Liam Cohnham telling them, look, get
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on them early in the game and in the second half.
You don't have to sweat it out and worry about it.
So I think that's what you have to do. You
got to go back to what your experience has been.
And I think that's one of the recent ones and
I think they can build on that.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
And speaking of building on it, Trevor Lawrence has given
a couple of really good performances the last couple of weeks,
particularly last week was very sharp throwing the ball downfield.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Pete.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
You're going up against a team that has not produced
an interception all year. This seems like a great another
stepping stone for Trevor to continue to build that confidence.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Absolutely, and I think you know, you look around that
team and what people always ask, well, why is he
playing better football? If the offensive line is protecting better,
his eye level isn't coming down, he's standing in the pocket,
he's got a better pocket feel. I think the receivers
are more reliable and he trusts them a lot more.
And when you see it, yeah, he's you know, he's
getting the ball out, he's taking those shots down the field,
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and I think that's changed the dynamic of the offense.
And obviously this is a game where you can try
and build on that before you get to some bigger
games down the road.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
Yeah, we've raved about the impact that Jacoby Myers has
made in terms of the consistent and seeing the trust factor.
But Brian Thomas has come back in the last couple
of weeks and made a numerous big plays.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Pete, how big is that?
Speaker 9 (15:07):
Just to have that element back of stretching the field
in this passing game, Well, it's enormous.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
You know, you can't play, you know, with a force
field at twenty yards. I think you've got to be
able to stretch the defense and take those shots down
the field. And Brian Thomas is that guy. And I
think getting Jacoby Myers has kind of, you know, bled
over to him as a player, but it's also bled
over into the offense because Jacoby Myers can do the
dirty work in the middle of the field. He's one
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of those guys you can rely on. He's a pros pro.
And I think Brian Thomas is the last couple of
weeks since coming back, his routes are crisper, he looks
more engaged, his body language is better, and I think
he's you know, being able to make plays down the
field gets him going. So I think it's an enormous
part of what they do going forward.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Well, you mentioned the offensive line play as well, and
Cole van Landon has been a big part of that.
A versatile tool can play just about anywhere on that
line and play pretty well. Pete and a lot of
people are calling for that to be the move at
left tackle now, and there is value, I think, to
having a guy who's the next man up at so
many positions because then if you have an injury, you
don't have to shuffle things around at multiple spots. But
(16:12):
if it were up to you, Pete Prisco is running
the Jaguars, would Cole vang land And be your starting left.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Tackle, absolutely, no question about it. I thought he was
outstanding last week, really held up in pass protection, good
in the run game. You know, plays with a violent streak.
And I think he's the guy that has to start
at left tackle now. I know there's value of him
being able to play all those other positions, but you
can still shuffle in game if need be. I just
think the value is there for him to be your
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starting left tackle.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
All right, let's switch it over to the defense here.
Pete and without Andrew Winger last week, they had been
without Eric Murray for a while. He came back, but
in the meantime, Antonio Johnson says quietly, putting together a
pretty nice season. It seems like a good problem to have.
They got three safeties really for two spots, but you.
Speaker 8 (16:58):
Know they'll use a lot of defenses where they play, yeah,
so you know that's a you know, and both Johnson
and wingerd are probably better near the line of scrimmage
than they are in the deep middle. So it's a
nice situation to have. You mentioned Johnson. I think the
biggest difference for him is understanding the assignments and playing
assignment football. Remember early in the year he had some
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assignment bus He had a lot of them last year.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
But he seems to.
Speaker 8 (17:21):
Be growing in confidence, and he's an athletic kid. He
can come up and play in the box and hit
gen tackle you. And I think Murray is kind of
a blue back there, and I think he needs to
be a big part of the defense. So you can
use all three of them. I don't know which two
you'll start, but I would imagine it would probably go
back to what it was before Murray went out of
the lineup well, and.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
They've shown a willingness to just play whoever's playing the
best football right now. You've got some guys who are
not in household names at the beginning of the year
getting a lot of reps, particularly on the defensive line.
Danny Strigo, Matt Dickerson's snaps have been increasing in recent weeks.
What does that say about this coaching staff that they're
finding kind of some diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
And you know what, the old at their mistakes as
an organization, which I like. I mean, you know, you
you went out and got some veterans and those guys,
you know, Austin Johnson and Ogwa we're in active last
week and you played the young guys. And Strigil has
been a revelation. I mean, let's be real, nobody saw
that coming. He's not, you know, he's not an athletically
gifted guy in terms of being able to get Ben
to turn the corner before. He plays hard. He's good
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against the run, he'll crack down on blocks, and I
think he's a nice addition to that defensive front. And
you mentioned Dickerson. Dickerson's been you know, up and down,
and he's done a nice job and he's earned himself
in elevation. So I'm the same way. You play the
best players, and right now those guys are the best players.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
Pete, what's your prediction for today?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
I think they get on them early, and just like
the Titans game, don't have to sweat it out in
the second half. This is not a good Jets football team.
You don't want to get caught in the fourth quarter
in a game, and so don't turn it over. Play
your game. You'll handle the Jets, and then you move
on to Denver and worry about bigger and better things
next week.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Bryan Sexton this week with assistant offensive line coach and
run game specialist.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Kale Here's the first question, why are you awesome?
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
How.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I guess how I was raised, you know, I just
I have so much fun out of here, and I'm
having a good time with the guys, great guys to
work with, the line, the coaching staff, so it's nothing
to be mad at us. I was just great to
be here and having fun.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
That's the feeling I get when I watch this team.
Have they had fun all season? Or is there a
switch that's flipped since the bye week? When this team
is playing well? It gets more fun. Obviously.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I think definitely there was a type of switch after
the bye week.
Speaker 10 (19:30):
You know, obviously we didn't do as great as we
wanted to going into the bye, but I think every
week our guys just got closer and closer with each other,
just the camaraderie. Speaking of online specifically, their bond has
gotten closer. The bond with the other guys has gotten
closer since the buye and it's really has been progressing
through off the whole season. And I think that's what
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you're seeing now, is that that progression.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
And thirty two years of covering this leg. I have
a statement from a guy that told me years ago
that running the ball is an attitude.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
It really is.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
So tell me about the attitude of your offensive line
and where it stems from.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
I think it stems from the guys that we have.
Speaker 10 (20:08):
I think it's it's, uh, you know, bringing the right
guys together again and talking about the camaraderie with each
other and how that's been built over the season.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I think they don't want to let each other down.
Speaker 10 (20:18):
I think that that that bond, that that love for
each other, for the game, for the pride of the unit.
That's where the biggest physicality and aggressiveness has come from.
And I think that has been shown as just their
commitment to each other is being displayed on the field.
And so I think that's how that's why we have
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been doing the things that we've been doing, is because
of that bond, that trust with each other that they
can play confident and run off the ball and play strong,
play tough.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
It's because they trust everyone around them and that trust.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
We've seen offensive lines, you know, all offensive lines have
had injuries. You've had some and no matter where you
plug people in, you're getting strong contributions. Is that the
trust you're talking about where guys trust another that they
can play left guard or left tackle or right guard,
right tackle.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, I mean it starts with the guy. The players.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
You know, we have a lot of guys that that
trust the process, that trust what we're doing, and they're
committed to learning all positions because everyone knows, you know,
one guy can be hurt and someone has to step in.
And I think again, over the whole season, even going
through the spring, it's like building the trust with each other.
Even we didn't know who was going to start, who
was going to play, It's like, hey, everyone's got to
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be on it themselves and everyone can trust.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
That the other guy is doing their job as well.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
So I think that's you know, we're kind of we
had no worries if someone went down because we have
guys that have like Cole, like Chumua, you know, Wi's
been in there, Jonah has played a game like everyone
trust each other because they've built that mind since the spring,
since training camp, throughout the season. And I think that's
what you're seeing is the trust with each other has
(21:53):
been just accumulation of all that, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I asked Sean as he was walking off the field
and said, what do you ask for your run game specialists?
And he said, without you, he would always feel the
day behind you. You're always looking ahead, You're always trying
to have a jump on it. Tell me about what
your role is run game specialist is all about.
Speaker 10 (22:11):
You know, I guess my my job, my responsibility is
kind of get the guys, you know, seeing what we've
been doing good at and seeing how we can you know,
progress in that way because we have a foundation that
we're with. It's just finding how our players are the
best that they can be. And so sometimes it might
be as much as a cool play could happen. You know,
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my job is to make sure like hey, you know,
kind of hold back. It's like, hey, didn't work. You know,
that's cool, but you know that's not what we're good at,
or we're not we're not we're not at that level yet,
or if we're not, that's not us.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I'm trying to find us plays.
Speaker 10 (22:48):
I think that's the biggest thing that I can provide
for our guys, for Sean, for our players is you know,
you know, finding us is continually finding us plays rather
than flashy plays.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
You know.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
It's so it's just and then and just being there
as finding solutions. You know, things have kind to come up.
The game is not black and white. It's it's you know,
there's a lot of gray in the areas. And it's
my job to you know, make sure that the rules,
things that we have done, the things that we have
progressed through the whole year, how is that going to
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marriage so that on game day they can play freely.
I think that's the kind of big thing that I
try to make sure that our guys have is to
play free and confident when they're out there, no matter
what they're going to see and the US.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Obviously, it is more than just the offensive line. It's
those three backs. Can you give me an appreciation for
those guys and how well they work. I mean, I
think Travis etn has been one of the best players
on this team since the first day of camp.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean, Travis, bachel lequint, They've all been doing
a great job.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
They all have a role. They all trust each other.
Speaker 10 (23:49):
Again, it's building that trust that we've built with each
other in the line room. It's it's spreading through all
the units, through the offense to the team. As you
can see, Yeah, they've been doing a great job. They hard,
they run hard, they have no complaints. They you know,
they keep to you know what we're trying to do.
They keep talking with the on line. And then it's
seeming I think there's been a pull push of even
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our receivers too, going in there and blocking, and it's
become a we always talk about the run game is
all eleven. All elmen have to be on the same page,
all limits have to be blocking, you know, and you
can see it. Our receivers are running downfield, getting blocks,
getting touchdown blocks, you know, playing hard and you know,
that's what you'd love to see on Sunday, you know,
when everyone's happy for the touchdowns and because.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Everyone's doing their job with each other.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
And that's and that's kind of been the running backs
doing their job, whin I'm doing their job, tight ends, receivers,
quarterbacks doing great on the fake, you know, and then
now you know a quarterback has ran the ball a
couple of times. Now they got to trust what he's doing.
So I think it's accumulation of all those things.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Let's end with this.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I think I'm watching a team practicing at a very
high level and that's why you're playing well.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
This team is really doing a lot on the practice
field during the week.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Yeah, I mean we've been cutting down on you know,
physical physical things and trying to get in more of
protecting their body, and towards the end of the year,
I think they took the mature level and each week
they're maturing.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
More and more.
Speaker 10 (25:13):
As what you're seeing now, you know, playing at the
technique that we need to be playing at. So I mean,
have to be physical, but we're still getting enough out
of the practice that we want. But you can you
need to totally see in the last two weeks, especially
right now, the level of execution and focus and discipline
and technique is you know, we can protect the body
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but also go out and be physical on game day.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
So hopefully you're having a lot of fun today. Best
to block against the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
And finally this week NFL on CBS analyst Ross Tucker,
nice to have you first time on the Jags this season, Ross,
what's up?
Speaker 11 (25:51):
You know, it's not only my first time on the
Jags this season, this is my first time ever doing
a Jags game for CBS. I don't know how it
worked out that way, JP, because I end up doing
a lot of AFC South games. I mean I've done
the last three years. I had to have done six
Titans games, four Texans games, at least a couple of
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Colts games. For whatever reason, it never worked out that
I got the Jags. So not only am I glad
I'm getting the Jags when they're nine and four and
in first place I'm getting I'm getting the Jags when
it's absolutely freezing in Pennsylvania where I live. So it's
been nice to be down here, that's for sure. And
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also you know they're good. I mean, they're good, they're
playing well, and I'm excited for the fan base.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm excited for everybody associated with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, what surprises you most about this nine and four
team so far?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
Yeah, there's a bunch of things that I think if
you would have told me before the year that they'd
be nine and four, I probably would have said, Okay,
you know, it really worked with Travis Hunter and with
Brian Thomas and they're lighting the world on fire, and
Liam Cohen's offense and looking like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin,
(27:12):
and you know that hasn't been the case.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I think that's one of the things that's so interesting about.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
It is you would have thought that it'd be Air
Cohen and you know, Brian Thomas would have picked up
where he left off last year and Hunter with who
they made the big trade, the bold move for. But
I think on some level that has to make you
feel even better as a Jags fan that you know,
they got a really good team and they're playing really well,
(27:40):
despite the fact that you know, up until this last
game against Indy, you know, it hadn't been a great
year for Brian Thomas, and they really haven't and aren't
gonna get much from Travis Hunter, and yet here they
are still playing really, really well, and really even Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Has been up and down.
Speaker 11 (27:59):
So I think a lot of the credit as a
result of everything I just said has to go to
Liam Cohen and the coaching staff, Anthony Campanelliot of course,
and what he's been able to get done on defense.
But I think that would be really encouraging if I
were a Jags fan to think, man, we're nine and
four and we haven't really even been firing in all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He kind of blew to that game against the Texans.
Speaker 11 (28:26):
It really makes you open your eyes to what the
possibilities could and maybe will be at some point.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Ross Tucker with us, the analyst for the NFL on CBS.
The Jaguars have had a lot of in and out
of the lineup on the offensive line this year. You're
a former offensive lineman, so you know it's hard to
keep that consistency, but it feels like, you know, they've
been able to kind of handle some of the injuries.
Week or two injuries here there the offensive line. Cove
(28:53):
and Landon a big piece of that. But how difficult
is that to maintain consistency on the O line when there's.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Cons and changes, Well, it's not easy at all.
Speaker 11 (29:03):
And I think continuity, chemistry some of the terms that
get thrown out there, those are real things, JP, I mean,
I can just speak to that.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know, the more you play next to somebody, the.
Speaker 11 (29:16):
More comfortable you get with them, even like you and
I get a chance to do games on radio every
once in a while. You know, the second time we
did a game, it felt even better than the first time,
and the third time, and the more you and I
get to do games together. That's just the natural evolution
of life, I think. And so for them to be
able to have guys in that lineup and still to
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perform as well as they have, it's almost like ever
since Shad Khan hired Tony Vasselli as the Executive VP
of Football Operations or whatever fancy title that Tony has,
you know, it's like it's like he sprinkled his magic
O line pixie dust on these guys. I mean, let's
not lose sight of the fact that Robert Hainsey more
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or less was told by the Bucks that he wasn't
a starter, you know. Patrick McCarry was more or less
told by the Ravens, Hey, we think you're a swing guy,
you know. Cole Van Lannon, I mean he might be
the I don't know what if they have team awards,
but he might be the most underappreciated, underrated player on
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the team. He looked darn good at left tackle against
the Colts. He's played every spot and so I think
that's what I appreciate as much as any is the
makeup of the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know, somebody made a decision there.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
I don't know how much of that's Biselli, how much
that's Cohen, how much of that's Gladstone. But they said
we're gonna get smart, tough, versatile guys in here, like McCarry,
like Hansey, like Cole Van Lannon.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And it has really paid off.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Ross Tucker with US Jaguars defense number one in the
league against the and it's about all the Jets have
left in the tank as Brice Hole right now. They're
on their third quarterback, so they really don't have a quarterback.
So this Jaguars defense is poised to at least go
again on paper, to have another strong outing.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
What scares you.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Here's the question about the Jets at three and ten.
How can they win and compete in this game? What
scares you the most if you're the Jaguars looking at
the Jets this week?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
A couple things.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
First of all, anytime a team is a big underdog,
it's turnovers. I think we know that, so turnovers can
always be the great equalizer in football at any level.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's number one.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
That's kind of obvious for this Jets team in particular.
I'll give you three things. Number one would be sort
of the unknown, you know, with having a guy making
his you know, first started quarterback and everything that's going
on there, you don't really know what you're gonna get
from Brady Cook.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, maybe he's the next Tom Brady.
Speaker 11 (32:04):
I don't know, you know, I'm I'm I'm obviously it's
highly highly unlikely, but the point remains, you don't really
know what you have. You don't have a lot of
tape on him. I also say he definitely showed some moxie,
uh some poise.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I loved him at Missouri.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
I thought he was a super fun college quarterback to watch,
and I think part of that's because he can really
run and so that's the other thing that scares you
as a defensive coordinator is when you're going up against
the team where the quarterback's legs can be a factor.
So you got the unknown, you got the legs being
a fact, you got the turnovers. And then the big
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one is special teams. You know, they've won three ball
games this year. They really won two games primarily on
special teams. I won't say entirely because that's unfair of
the other guys, but in large part on special teams.
That's the reason why they were able to win those game.
So that's the type of thing that keeps coaches up
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at night because you think, gosh, we can't let them,
you know, block upon or return a kick for a
touchdown and somehow somehow blow a game that we shouldn't
lose because of that.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Ross Tucker with US NFL and CBS. Final thought with
you here about the AFC playoff picture. Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Steelers.
Those are the top four seeds going into Week fifteen.
Then there's a wild card teams back there too. Who
is the favorite right now in the AFC? It feels
like this is kind of a strange year. There's not
really a team that kind of stood out all season.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
I'm going with New England. Yeah, I'm going with New
England because I think they're still the most likely team
to get the number one seed. And that's just an
absolutely massive advantage. I mean, the difference between you know,
having to play three games, including one or two on
the road, maybe even all three, versus just two games
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up there in New England is huge. They've got, you know,
a legitimate quarterback. You know, they got an MVP caliber quarterback.
I don't think you can say that for the Denver Broncos.
I think you can say that for the Patriots. I
believe Drake May is that good. So you combine those
two things. Certainly, Rabel and McDaniels, those are not the
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type of guys that will blink in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'll go with New England.
Speaker 11 (34:24):
But you know, I don't think it would shock anybody
if anybody came out of the AFC just because of
what we've seen from the whole conference this year. I mean,
you know, would it shock me if the Bills went
on a run or even the Ravens got their you
know what together went on a run.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
No, Ross pleasure to catch up with you again. It's
been too long and welcome to Duvall.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
Hey, I am glad to be here. It is nice out,
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The three and ten New York Jants meet the nine
and four Jacksonville Jaguars in Week fifteen.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Enjoy the game.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!