November 2, 2025 • 33 mins
J.P. Shadrick checks in with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, FOX Sports analyst Chris Meyers and Pride of the Jaguars RB Fred Taylor ahead of the Week 9 matchup against the Raiders in Las Vegas. Brian Sexton talks with OL Robert Hainsey and DE Travon Walker about their preparation and the teams outlook as they approach the halfway point of the 2025 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've made it to Week nine.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shabrick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews
ahead of the Jaguars and the Las Vegas Raiders. We
start this week with Chris Myers of Fox Sports. He'll
have the play by play of the Jags Raiders matchup.
It is week nine in the National Football League. The
Jaguars visit Las Vegas to face the Raiders. Chris Myers
will have the call on the NFL on Fox or
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should we say the Jaguars TV network.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Chris, how are you go ahead? It's good to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
This will be the third this year that I'll be
calling a Jacks game. We had the win against the
Panthers and the opener called the tough loss they had
at home to the to the Seahawks, and now calling
this one in Vegas. Also seen the Raiders a couple
of times. But I felt in the beginning that if
Trevor Lawrence and you know, Liam Cohen, if that could click,
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that everything else would be okay and the Jags would
be a playoff contender. And I'm sticking of that based
on the rest of the schedule, and even though the
dip after Kansas City after that Chiefs game. Maybe this
buy came at the right time for them and also
for the Raiders. I really think this is a kind
of a critical game for both of these teams in
different ways for where they are in the process of
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their organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Chris, let's let's start with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Of course, the defense led the way early in the season,
a bunch of takeaways. They've gotten away from that. They
haven't had the lead earlier in games. That's part of
the reason why. But as you mentioned, the offense is,
you know, they were running the ball early in the season.
They've gotten away from that last couple of weeks and
they're kind of sputtering offensively. And the drop issue, I mean,
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that's the thing. When they have thrown it, they've dropped
the football a lot. How do you snap out of
that as a coaching staff and offense a quarterback and
just get things back on track offensively?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's tough to doe, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But I think the penalties also, I think they lead
the league in penalties and everything nine a game. So
to me, those two things, the drops and the penalties,
those are things that I think you can control as
a team or a player, a staff that no matter
what the opposition or who you're playing or the conditions,
I think those are things as a professional you can
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handle and correct. And maybe that's in the bye week
and know there's some emphasis on certain things. There's also
some schemes I heard Liam Cohen talking about that they
may look at adjusting with some personnel, and you don't
want to go too crazy because you do have a
winning record. But to me, those are that's the encouraging
part of what's going on. The running thing mystifies me
a little bit. That's how Cohen really built the Buccaneers
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up last year. In that one year there that made
Baker look so good. So I think the defense, the
takeaways when we did their game going into that Seattle game,
I mean, that's where they were. I think fourteen takeaways
led the league, right, and then the last two games,
you know, nothing there. It's kind of been that's been
the opposite. So I can't explain that except for maybe
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some health or guys being out a position or not
doing some things. But I think there's enough talent on
this team when you look at all the number one
draft picks that have been brought in that they should
be able to pull it together. So and they're getting
you know, the Raiders who are not as talent as
a team, who are desperate and angry and making some
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adjustments on their side. I mean, this is a game
that the Jacksonville has to win otherwise, you know, the
contender part. Then you start to say, well, maybe maybe
they're really not especially you know, given to the wake
up call in the last couple of games. That's that's
how I would view this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Chris Myers, NFL on Fox And now to the Raiders.
And on the offensive side, Ashton Gent he's running the football.
The rookie running back, of course, has been hit behind
the line a lot, I think more than anybody in
the league. He has some, but he also can break
tackles and he's one of the best in that so
far in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Kind of a mixed bag in the run game.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But Rock Bowers is back this week, tight end who
put ninety nine on the Jaguars last year in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So how do you slow down Bowers?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And because you're not going to stop him, he's going
to get some of his It feels.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Like, yeah, still, I don't think you'll let him get
deep and you have to tackle him right away when
he catches the football. And also Michael Mayer is back.
They really are a two tight end team because their
receivers don't wow you. And they've drafted some that haven't
quite developed yet in Dante Thornton, who is a speedy
guy from Tennessee who just you know, hasn't gotten all
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the mechanics. Now Jack Besh a second rounder, kind of
a sure hand. Again, those guys haven't haven't figured. Jakobe
Myers has been hurt. But I bring them up because
I think that's why they've struggled. And Gino Smith thought
he would have brock Bauers and you take him away
in and Mayor went out with a concussion. I think
they're both going to be back. And yes, Browers is
going to get his catches, just don't let him destroy
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you once he does. I'm a believer in genty. I
know they're going through a lot on their offensive line.
Colton Miller, their best alignement left tackle, got hurt out
for the year. That certainly affected things overall. They add
Tyler Lockett this week, former Seahawk with you know, Pete
Carroll and and Gino Smith kind of a comfort level
that could do a lot, not just in the game,
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but maybe for the receiver room. I think that that's
what they're hoping for anyway, how much he'll play and
fitting into the system. He came over from Tennessee that
brief time where he only had ten catches, so that
that could be a factor. But yeah, they haven't been
explosive offensively, and that's the thing, other than when Genti
breaks tackles and shakes loose and that's you know, Pete
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Carroll wants to get him more and more involved and
that's up to Chip Kelly to find out ways to
do that. But their big story concerned is Gino Smith,
the veteran they brought in to stabilize things at the
quarterback position, and he's thrown them. He's tied for the
most interceptions in the league with Tonga Iiloa, and he's
just got to make better decisions whether people are open
or he's under pressure. But I think he will in
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this game a little bit because of the Bowers being
out there present and a little bit healthier since he
was bothered by that knee injury.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Another thought on the Raiders on defense, now, I mean,
obviously it's Matt Crosby. Max Crosby is the number one
priority for any offense.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What else do the Raiders pose defensively? What do they
put out there?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, they have guys that and they're they're the chip
on the shoulder guys that Pete Carroll has gathered like
a Devin White, you know, as a former buccaneer, and
then he was in Houston briefly and he's having a
good year for them at the linebacker spot. Jamal Adams,
Jeremy Chin. So it's kind of it's kind of a
ragtag group by the Eric Stokes is probably their best
cover guy. I think they can I think they can
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be had in the secondary if if they you know,
if Trevor Harts has time and delivers the ball and
and the Jag receivers hang on to the hang on
to the football. But yes, Adam Butler will be coming
back up front. That will really help Crosby who's been
double teamed a lot. Butler hurt his back and he's
on that inside tackle spot usually near Crosby, although they
move Crosby around and he's a fascinating player to watch
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in that Miles Garrett kind of kind of mold, So, yes,
you got to be aware of where he is and
then I think you can attack in a lot of
different areas of that defense. They are transitioning from a
Pete Carroll. You know Patrick Graham who was the decordinator
before he was there with the Raiders, and Pete's kind
of taking a little bit of his and trying to
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bring his But I don't know if he has all
the players. They are getting Lonnie Johnson back. They say
this strong safety, had a great training camp, got hurt
at a leg injury. That can help a little bit
in the secondary. But yes, Crosby, you start and you
finish with him, I think on that Raider defense.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Chris Pete Carroll is what seventy three boy?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I know he's the oldest coach in the oldest who ever,
I think he's seventy four. He turns in four this
year because he's the oldest coach to have coached in
the NFL, and he keeps adding to it when he
celebrates another birthday. Yes, yeah, he's in that age range
where most people are sitting back and relaxing, but he
doesn't want to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, he still has the energy and everything to go
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That we'll see if they keep losing games, that can
they can wear on anybody. But what what do you
notice about Carol when you sit out with him?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, the same, you know, it's funny. And I covered
a lot of his Seattle teams. You're sitting there the meetings,
and he has, you know, this, the same kind of process.
He's very positive, that's very authentic. But he's also realistic
about which guys are coming along and where they need
to make changes. Uh And I you know, before the
game he's out there throwing the football and and and
run it around. So I haven't seen anything change there
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and I don't I don't think he's lost touch with
the league. I mean, his Seattle teams were contending. He
knew at least he told us that when he was
out for that year. He didn't want to make a
big public thing about it, but he wanted to coach again,
you know, and that's why he sat and waited it.
I thought it was an interesting move by the Raiders.
Uh And and for them, by the way, let me
point out a very emotional week jp they you know,
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Al Davis's wife, who was still technically the owner of
the team, passed away, So missus Davis kind of the
you know, the key person of the organization all those
years when when Al on the team and then they're
their only son, Mark Davis, who's who's operating things with
you know, hiring Tom Brady and John Spytech from Tampa Bay.
But they also lost George Atkinson, a great Raider player
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who was involved in the organization. He passed away and
he was a very close friend of Mark Davis. So
I already sense a little bit and I'll have more
when we get to spend more time with them. But
the emotion there of the Raiders, that's something the players.
I think they might use that in a way, Pete
Carroll in a good way, you know, to help heal
as those situations pop up. And Pete's kind of He's
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already talked about that this week, and that's the kind
of guy he is. He tries to find something to
connect the emotion with his players. They so they play
that way. But I haven't seen any I haven't seen
any disconnect with him. If any maybe the Pete Carroll
hire of and I believe it was his call with
Chip Kelly. That's where there seems to be a little
bit of you know, are they on the same page.
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Pete usually lets his offensive coordinator do his thing, and
it's Chip Kelly back in the NFL, is taking him
some time to kind of get up to speed to
where Pete and uh, you know the team would like
him to be. That's worth keeping an eye on.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The oldest coach in the league with against one of
the youngest coaches and Liam cohen So yeah, an interesting Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Liam has a lot of a lot of bravado. What
I like what he said. I think I was Trevor
Lards during the week, who you guys are on this
but talked about you know he Liam's accountable for things too,
and he'll admit I called the wrong play here, and
he doesn't just say it, he'll show us and try
to correct it. So I thought that was a positive
thing in the sense that the players, you know, they
know their coach while he's trying to get them all together,
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that he can make mistakes too, and account comes back
to accountability that's tossed around in a lot of locker
rooms and by a lot of coaches and teams and players.
But but here it seems like Liam Cohen is is
trying to stress that to his Jags team in a
game that I think they really need to have to
kind of like, I look, the only I think it's
only three teams with a winning record the rest of
the way that the Jags play, and of course the
Colts are in there so and they've only had the
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one division game right that they want against Houston. So
to me, if you're a Jags fan, you can hang
on to that, but you can't let this one slip
by you. If you know, if your team is healthy
and goes in there and plays good football.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Chris Meyer is a NFL on Fox. I'm sure we'll
do it again at some point this season. We've done
it three times already.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
All right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I always look forward to it. Thanks you, take care
of joy of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Mike Dempsey catches up with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Briscoe.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Well, I think you can focus on the little things,
and by that I mean all those pre snap penalties,
getting to play in on time, not checking out of
a play when the play clock is going down so
you get a delay of game or have to call
time out. The little things. I think that's what you
can work on during your bye week. Getting in and
out of the huddle getting lined up. You know, it's
hard to believe that it's you know, this far into
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the season and they're still having all those issues, but
they are, so I think that first and foremost, Mike,
that has to be something that they focus on coming
out of the buy and on into the rest of
the season.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I'm with you, though, Pete, like, if this is all
so directable, why are we two months in the season
is still kind of an epidemic for the Jacksonville Jaguars?
Is this just the identity of who they are? Do
you think they can make significant improvement.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I'll be honest with you, Mike, I think it's an
epidemic in the league right now. There's so many pre
snap penalties and sloppy teams lining up, and you know,
the league has made an emphasis on calling you know,
illegal shift closer this year, and I think that's shown
up so you know, they're bad at it. But it's
not just them. It's a lead league wide epidemic, and
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I think it's it's on all these coaches and all
these players to take accountability and make sure you're lined
up right, make sure you're not jumping off sides. Make
sure you're not, you know, moving when the ball is
being snapped if you're not supposed to be moving. So
a bunch of different things are at play. But it's
not just Jacksonville's across the league, all right.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Travis Hunter had a breakout game offensively against the Rams
prior to the buy pete. What are your expectations form
offensively and defensively now in the remaining ten games of
this year.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
The way I think it should be in the way
I think it will be is he's the number one
wide receiver and he will be the number one cornerback.
And you know what, it's time to amp him up
in both. It's time for him to start playing more
on both sides of the ball. I think he's their
best corner. I think he's their best receiver, and now
you go use him that way. So I do think
he's going to get a lot more attention when it
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comes to the offense, and I think on defense he's
got to be out on the field playing corner because
he's so good at it. So I think you're going
to start to see what they've anticipated him doing at
the beginning of the year, which is playing much more
on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All right, Pete.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
When you look at this Raiders roster, they've got a
few premium players, which one causes more problems for Jacksonville today.
Is it brock Bowers or is it Max Crosby.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Oh, it's definitely Max Crosby. And look, he plays the
game at a different speed than the rest of the
guys on the field. He's a maniac and he also
plays the game his own way. And by that I
mean he doesn't always play the defense. What you hear
out of there is he could do much what he
wants to and everybody has to adjust to it. So
he can be a game wrecker. He can, you know,
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be one of those guys that get sack, fumble, turn
it over and turn those into points. So he has
to be the guy you focus on. They will, they
have to, but if you don't get him blocked, you're
not beating them. I think Bowers is a good players
coming off an injury, and I think they can do
some things to try and limit him. And plus Gino
Smith hasn't played that well, So I think if you
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hadn't asked me like you just did, I would pick
Max Crosby.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, and you look at Ashton Genty. He's a good player,
but he hasn't made this massive impact on this team
so far. He's only had two games where he's had
over four yards per carry this year. Jags are six
in the league in run defense. I think they can
do a decent job corraling him today.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And that's the idea today is go corral him and
put it on that passing game. And like I said earlier,
Gino Smith has not played very well. There has to
be concerned about Gino Smith. So choke off the run,
make sure that Genty doesn't get going, and then and
you know, try and get after Gino Smith a little
bit and don't allow him to get in any rhythm.
We've seen that before. If Gino Smith gets going, it's
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a problem. If he doesn't, you can turn them over
and get some takeaways. And I think that's ultimately what
the game plan.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Will be, all right, Pete quickly trade deadline a couple
of days away. If the Jags were to add, where
would you like to see them add the.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Most defensive tackle? I think that would be the number
one priority. Make some calls, you know, Zack Steeler down
in Miami, maybe Kalais Campbell, the old Jaguar who they
were in on last year. As these teams are selling,
I think you need to look at some defensive tackles.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
The Steelers a really nice player as well, all right, Pete.
Coming out of the buy, do the Jags get the
win over the Raiders who are also coming out their buy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I do.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I think they go out there and win that game,
get back into a little bit of a rhythm. And
by the way, I think this is a big week
for them and for Liam Koh coming out of a buy,
getting the mistakes cut down and moving on from their
young team coming off of buy. It's interesting to see
how they play, but I think Liam Kong will get
them playing well. I do think that they have a
good day offensively, and I.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Think they win the game.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now to the Jaguars offensive line and Senator Robert Hainsey
with Brian Sexton.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
What does it take to come out of the bye
week playing well?
Speaker 8 (16:14):
No secrets, just getting back to work.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Everyone's super focused on what they need to what they
need to improve on. Like I keep saying, improving is
individuals trying to raise the standard and raise the elevation
of the entire team.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
There's been a lot of talk this week about getting
the running game going. From your perspective, what you've seen,
what needs to happen for it to perform at the
level it was earlier this year.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Well, we need to stay on track, we need to stop,
we need we can't when you get behind the chains,
it's hard to call runs. As much as we all
want to say, keep calling them, like as a play caller,
that's a hard spot to be. And so one staying
on track, staying second, third, and manageable, so we can
keep calling the runs and trusting it, and that makes
a huge difference. When you get down points and you
get behind the sticks, it's hard to call runs and
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then it's hard to convert.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So this is kind of like the domino effect of it.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
So I think stay on track, making them, making the
runs go on first and second down as best we can,
uh minimize, minimizing any mistakes that bring us backwards.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
What's it been like in your room the last two
weeks after giving up as many sacks as you guys have.
I know it's not part of what you thought this
offensive line was going to play like. So what has
your conversation been.
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Like Well, the thing with protection is it takes all
of us to be on the same page, and when
it comes to thinking about stuff, we are and we
all want the same result. It has to be everyone
in prick, I've said before, improving their technique to help
each other out. So the conversation has been, hey, how
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can I how can I do my job better to
help you? And how can I do my job better
to help you? And so on and so forth.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
That's all it is.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
It's not nothing crazy, uncharacteristic, I would say, the last
two weeks and certainly not the standard. So it's good
question is what are we going to do about it?
And we've been working at we've been talking about it.
This shit doesn't happen overnight. It's process, so trusting each other,
holding each other accountable to what we need each other
to do to raise that standard and get back to
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kind of how we were playing.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Ten games are left. That's a lot of football coming
out of the bye week. When you look at it
that way, it sure seems like there is plenty of
time to go where you want to go.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Yeah, I mean a couple years ago have a week
five bye weeks, so like we got a whole season
ahead of us staying there.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I mean, we've done some great stuff this year.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
We've done a lot of things that we want to
improve upon, and that's what the rest of the seasons about,
is improving the things that we felt we were lacking
and increasing the productivity and the things that we were
already doing well. Like you said, there's a ton of
football left, ton of games left. Every goal, everything we wanted,
all those things that every team talks about at the
beginning of the season is out there for everyone. No
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one's eliminated yet, so we have plenty of time to
go do what we need to do in one game
at the time, one play at the time with each other,
just continue to grow and improve as a group, start
playing some really good football.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ryan Sexton also caught up with JAG's defensive lineman Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
So, had you ever played with an injury before like this?
And how big of a challenge was it for me
to learn to play a little bit different.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I have played with an injury like this, but it
was in college. But then I would say it was
more so like coming in being a specialist. It wasn't
every down player. So I mean that's been the biggest
adjustment for me, making it every down because I want
to get back to playing first, second, and third down.
I'm not I just really don't want to just come
in on a certain down or whatever. I just I
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want to get I wanted to get back to normally.
I have played in this situation before, but it's just
a little bit more to overcome for me right now.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I heard that you wanted to go back in the
game in San Francisco and that you wanted to play
against Kansas City. Where does that mentality, I don't care
that it hurts come from.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
I mean, it's just something that I always live by.
I'm not dead, I'm not sixties under the ground. I
still have a breadth of my lungs as long as
I'm able to do so. I still have my two
legs and can run around. That's what I wanted to do.
And my mindset, that's obviously. I think that just comes
from the way I raised by my parents, my mom
and dad. Oh, that's mainly where it stems from my
house raising. My mom and dad.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Tell me about what it takes to snap out of,
you know, losing two games and the bye week, it's
been a while since you've won, how do you get
ready to play after a couple of weeks off?
Speaker 10 (20:17):
I say, obviously we had the bye week. We just
got to build off of what we know that we
was doing wrong. It's all about small little details for
us on regardless, if we did some great things at
the first beginning of the season, now we did some
things that wasn't so good. So it's time for us
over the bye week to go back and look at
those things and evaluate ourselves and just coming out of
the bye week doing everything that we can't individually to help,
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you know, do our part as individuals. No week links.
That's how I like to look at it. As long
as we have no week links and stay together as
a team and a unit offense, defense, special team, and
we'll go be fine. Just keep putting all the pieces
together and keep growing.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Since you bring that up, they're talking in Toronto during
the World Series about why the Blue Jays are able
to give the Dodgers such a great series. Said, it's
their connection. That their locker room is special because guys
are connected to one another. Do you feel that in
this locker.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Room, Oh, it's definitely one hundred percent.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
It's a great connection to how I feel like, but
only it can only get better. Like you say, this
is we got a new coaching staff who got a
lot of new coordinators. But the thing is is we've
been building this ever since OTA's It's all about the
foundation that we started with the OTA is that main foundation.
We just want to continuously build off of that. Sometimes
you might skew off the track a little bit, but
that's one I like about this group too. We might ever,
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things might not always go as planned, but that's nobody's
going to be perfect. It's just for us to always
rally back together at the end of the day when
things get hard, just continuously come together and not spread apart.
I feel like that's what we do best.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And now my weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor. Time for out weekly conversation with
Pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. And I'm
sure you're rested and relaxed and ready for the stretch
run after the bye week, Fred.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, I'm certainly rested.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
JP.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I just hope the guys are rested, relaxed, healthy.
Speaker 11 (22:02):
You know, I was thinking this morning, man, like if
they're not feeling pressure. Why should we, like as fans,
why should we feel pressured? You know, no one seems
to be panicking. I saw Travis etn interview a few
days ago. He talked about, you know, just everybody's in
a good space. He talked about trust. You know, he
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talked about accountability that comes from the head coach and
the stems across the team. So yeah, I think they're
all ready to kind of write this ship and correct
this two game slide.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, four and three record heading out to Las Vegas
to face the Raiders team that's two and five, and
you know what they it's a pretty good matchup of
running backs. Ashton Gent's on the other side. Of course,
he was second place in the Heisman voting to Travis
Hunter last year.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Of course, hunting out of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Jenny out a boise, so he's he's making a mistackles happened.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's having some production in the run game. Now.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The Raiders are what they are on offense, but Jenny
is a bright spot for them.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
I mean, I'm looking at he's around four yards of carry.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, you'll take that every day of the week.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
You know, they have their own little walls and troubles,
whatever's going on with them.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
But again they took him. It was his sixth overall
for a reason.
Speaker 11 (23:24):
Guy who has tremendous jump cut reminds me a lot
of Jones Drew. You know, he's fast, he gets downhill,
he runs with power, he can make you miss. He
catches the ball. Well again, you said he's there, one
big bright spot. So defensively, it's gonna start with him.
They know they're going to try to get the ball.
Pete Carroll's an old school coach. He wants to run
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the ball. He wants to hit you with play action.
Geno Smith a guy who's moved around. But Gino is
a good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
He can get it. He can get it done.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
You know, he kind of had this resurgence of a
career back in Seattle under Pete Carroll. So them together,
trust me, I'm sure they're always on the same page.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Show.
Speaker 11 (24:05):
But it starts with gent and then on the flip side,
you know you got Max Crosby, who's the leader of
that defense.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
High energy.
Speaker 11 (24:14):
The problem that the Jaguars have had the past two weeks,
they hadn't played bad teams.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
They played two really good teams with very very very good.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Defensive front, and that caused Jacksonville all types of trouble
up front.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It exposed their offensive line.
Speaker 11 (24:30):
So if you can't get a hat on Max Crosby
and the rest of the crew, then you're going to
struggle again, no.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Doubt about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
One more note on the Raiders team, and Brock Bowers
could be back this week too. And we know what
that tight end did to the Jaguars last year. Eleven
catchers ninety nine yards in that game, which is you know,
it doesn't feel like well, it's just like chipping away
and just they couldn't stop it all day long. So yeah,
he'll be back in the mix as well. And let's
go to the Jaguars offense now, and what is the
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number one priority you think coming out of the bye
week to get this offense moving again like it was early.
Speaker 11 (25:09):
I got a lot of number one priority on abc D.
There are all number ones, But for me, it starts
with the guys up front. That's just good old football.
It starts with the guys in the trenches. The offensive line.
You know you're starting out the season, you know they're
protecting Trevor no sacks, they had two hundred yard rushing
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performance followed up by you know, another almost two hundred
yard rushing performance with no sacks, barely in the QB
pressures the QB hits in those matchups, you know, they
go on and they win those games. You know, they
don't struggle at all. The games that they struggle up
front where you don't have one hundred yards rushing or
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you know, you you've been exposing your quarterbacks been sacked
six times or hit ten times, right, those are the
games that you've lost. So for me, it will start
with the offensive line and then try to find a
way to get Travis Etn back on track. I think
the play calling is still sufficient. The play calling is
very good, you know, in my opinion, it's just that
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in the past game, they're taking turns play back. You know,
if Trevor's going to show lack of accuracy on certain
plays where some overthrows or some balls in the dirt
and then the balls that are in the receiver's frame
they're dropping it, you know, So guys are just taking
turns making bad plays. So one A would be offensive line,
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one B would be Travis Etn. One C would be
the quarterback, and one D would be the receivers, and D.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Doesn't stand for drop.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
We want catches, So maybe I should have put them
at c's for catches and.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
D for the quarterback for a nation. Yeah, he needs
to go out and dominate.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I like that A lot Jaguars leave the league and
drop passes, by the way, twenty one of them. And
if those were made, Lawrence's completion percentage would go up
to sixty seven percent for the season if the catches
are made.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
Yeah, and if anybody's out there keeping track, that's three
drops per game, you know, easy math.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Twenty one invided by seven games.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, Trevor's not having a bad season. Man.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
You know, I think Trevor along with coach Cohen, I
think they have some good synergies.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Uh you know, rarely they're not on the same page.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
And we've seen somebody language in a few games where
Liam once more because he understands what this quarterback is
capable of, so pushing him is totally fine with me.
But again, the receivers need to catch the balls that
they're supposed to catch, because one, they're all capable and
they get paid to do it, so they need to do.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It, Fred Taylor with US. Four of the next five
games spred are on the road.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
All four of.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Those games, though, are against losing teams right now, So
if you're looking at it from the ten thousand foot perspective, oh,
this is the area of the schedule where the Jaguars
need to make some hay here and get ahead and
stockpile some winning results and then get to the meat
of the divisional schedule in late November and December. Right,
But we know you can't really look at it like
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that as a team. You're going week to week, So
how much stress do you put on this week's game?
And the Raiders and you know a lot of people
around here, not in the building, but around the building
outside the building are saying it's a must win game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Let's not a playoff game. What's your feeling.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
I think they're must wins are only because you approach
you with a sense of urgency, Right, That's just part
of competing in sport because everything's gonna shake out the
way it shakes out at the end of the season.
So you don't look at it and say, well, it's
a must win for a playoff, you know, thought or
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whatever but just because it's a it's the next game
that's on the schedule and you want to win it.
I believe you know, you're either getting better or you're
getting worse.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
That's the NFL, right.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
We can look at these teams and say, well, they're
under five hundred, they absolutely are trash. Like the young
kids say they're trash, they're cooked. But these teams are
still practicing, they're still watching film, they still they're still
trying to get better. They still have had games where
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they've only lost by a touchdown or two, and they
believe they should have won games if this didn't happen,
and vice versa. And that's what the Jaguars are thinking, like, hey,
if we had done this, maybe we can win these games.
You go back to the Cincinnati game, a team that
had played great since since the Jaguars game. So you're
either getting better or you're getting worse. And nothing's guaranteed.
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Nothing guaranteed this league. So they just got to go
out there and take it game by game. Starting with
the Raiders here, you would expect them to come home
with a victory, but again, nothing's guaranteed in this league.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Anything can happen.
Speaker 11 (30:26):
If you go out there and you're kind of sitting
on your hands. Then you're gonna let them get in
the game, get some momentum behind their home crowd, and
before you know, you're down and you're frustrated, and now
you're dropping balls, getting sacks, allowing passes and then you lose.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And that's how it all happens.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Man, this is what NFL field football feels like.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You're four and three right around five hundred and all
the games are pretty close for the most part.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
This is what most teams in the league are going through.
It's not pretty, gonna.
Speaker 11 (31:00):
Be perfect, yeah, and and teams are gonna separate themselves
here as we enter the midway point of the season.
But again it's the NFL man, like, we can sit
back and say this and say that and try to
fool ourselves. There were it was three weeks ago or
four weeks ago, if you're including the bye week. You know,
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we said this team was gonna be a team that
probably gonna run off, you know, several games without losing.
But then you hit a speed bumping, you spill your coffee,
and you lose two, right, you lose two cups of
coffee actually, and then now you gotta find a way
to get back on track. But it's the NFL. Man,
they thought the Raiders are gonna be good. You look
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at Houston, a team who's reminds me of Jacksonville a lot.
Houston because they're two games away, but their offensive line
is where it starts because they have a really good
defensive mind, as do the Jaguars. But it's the offense
that's been sort of stowing them down, and it's been
because of the offense line. So Jacksonville has to make
sure they correct everything up front in order to get
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back on the winning side of things.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Fred, I mean, you can't be spilling coffee because the
price of coffee beans is through the roof right now.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I mean, this is expensive.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
So well, you know, I'm not drinking coffee. I'm actually
drinking Pivot performance energy drink. And it comes and it
can and you still less. I mean, I mean that's
what I'm doing these days. But I love the whole
coffee process. Well are coffee beans coming from Columbia? Yeah,
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I don't know. Well, good luck to the coffee drinkers,
good luck to the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
A gentleman who is far from cooked. Fred Taylor.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
Yeah, no, No, I'm more like baked or seasoned. They
like to say you're old. No, I like to think
of it as seasoned. I'm seasoned. I'm not cooked at all.
We cooked somedays, JP, but not today.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's weak nine the Jaguars and the Raiders at four
oh five Eastern at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Enjoy the game.
We've made it to Week nine.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
JP Shabrick with you with the countdown to kickoff interviews
ahead of the Jaguars and the Las Vegas Raiders. We
start this week with Chris Myers of Fox Sports. He'll
have the play by play of the Jags Raiders matchup.
It is week nine in the National Football League. The
Jaguars visit Las Vegas to face the Raiders. Chris Myers
will have the call on the NFL on Fox or
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should we say the Jaguars TV network.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Chris, how are you go ahead? It's good to talk
to you.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
This will be the third this year that I'll be
calling a Jacks game. We had the win against the
Panthers and the opener called the tough loss they had
at home to the to the Seahawks, and now calling
this one in Vegas. Also seen the Raiders a couple
of times. But I felt in the beginning that if
Trevor Lawrence and you know, Liam Cohen, if that could click,
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that everything else would be okay and the Jags would
be a playoff contender. And I'm sticking of that based
on the rest of the schedule, and even though the
dip after Kansas City after that Chiefs game. Maybe this
buy came at the right time for them and also
for the Raiders. I really think this is a kind
of a critical game for both of these teams in
different ways for where they are in the process of
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their organizations.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Chris, let's let's start with the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Of course, the defense led the way early in the season,
a bunch of takeaways. They've gotten away from that. They
haven't had the lead earlier in games. That's part of
the reason why. But as you mentioned, the offense is,
you know, they were running the ball early in the season.
They've gotten away from that last couple of weeks and
they're kind of sputtering offensively. And the drop issue, I mean,
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that's the thing. When they have thrown it, they've dropped
the football a lot. How do you snap out of
that as a coaching staff and offense a quarterback and
just get things back on track offensively?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's tough to doe, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But I think the penalties also, I think they lead
the league in penalties and everything nine a game. So
to me, those two things, the drops and the penalties,
those are things that I think you can control as
a team or a player, a staff that no matter
what the opposition or who you're playing or the conditions,
I think those are things as a professional you can
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handle and correct. And maybe that's in the bye week
and know there's some emphasis on certain things. There's also
some schemes I heard Liam Cohen talking about that they
may look at adjusting with some personnel, and you don't
want to go too crazy because you do have a
winning record. But to me, those are that's the encouraging
part of what's going on. The running thing mystifies me
a little bit. That's how Cohen really built the Buccaneers
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up last year. In that one year there that made
Baker look so good. So I think the defense, the
takeaways when we did their game going into that Seattle game,
I mean, that's where they were. I think fourteen takeaways
led the league, right, and then the last two games,
you know, nothing there. It's kind of been that's been
the opposite. So I can't explain that except for maybe
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some health or guys being out a position or not
doing some things. But I think there's enough talent on
this team when you look at all the number one
draft picks that have been brought in that they should
be able to pull it together. So and they're getting
you know, the Raiders who are not as talent as
a team, who are desperate and angry and making some
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adjustments on their side. I mean, this is a game
that the Jacksonville has to win otherwise, you know, the
contender part. Then you start to say, well, maybe maybe
they're really not especially you know, given to the wake
up call in the last couple of games. That's that's
how I would view this.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Chris Myers, NFL on Fox And now to the Raiders.
And on the offensive side, Ashton Gent he's running the football.
The rookie running back, of course, has been hit behind
the line a lot, I think more than anybody in
the league. He has some, but he also can break
tackles and he's one of the best in that so
far in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Kind of a mixed bag in the run game.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But Rock Bowers is back this week, tight end who
put ninety nine on the Jaguars last year in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So how do you slow down Bowers?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And because you're not going to stop him, he's going
to get some of his It feels.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Like, yeah, still, I don't think you'll let him get
deep and you have to tackle him right away when
he catches the football. And also Michael Mayer is back.
They really are a two tight end team because their
receivers don't wow you. And they've drafted some that haven't
quite developed yet in Dante Thornton, who is a speedy
guy from Tennessee who just you know, hasn't gotten all
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the mechanics. Now Jack Besh a second rounder, kind of
a sure hand. Again, those guys haven't haven't figured. Jakobe
Myers has been hurt. But I bring them up because
I think that's why they've struggled. And Gino Smith thought
he would have brock Bauers and you take him away
in and Mayor went out with a concussion. I think
they're both going to be back. And yes, Browers is
going to get his catches, just don't let him destroy
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you once he does. I'm a believer in genty. I
know they're going through a lot on their offensive line.
Colton Miller, their best alignement left tackle, got hurt out
for the year. That certainly affected things overall. They add
Tyler Lockett this week, former Seahawk with you know, Pete
Carroll and and Gino Smith kind of a comfort level
that could do a lot, not just in the game,
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but maybe for the receiver room. I think that that's
what they're hoping for anyway, how much he'll play and
fitting into the system. He came over from Tennessee that
brief time where he only had ten catches, so that
that could be a factor. But yeah, they haven't been
explosive offensively, and that's the thing, other than when Genti
breaks tackles and shakes loose and that's you know, Pete
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Carroll wants to get him more and more involved and
that's up to Chip Kelly to find out ways to
do that. But their big story concerned is Gino Smith,
the veteran they brought in to stabilize things at the
quarterback position, and he's thrown them. He's tied for the
most interceptions in the league with Tonga Iiloa, and he's
just got to make better decisions whether people are open
or he's under pressure. But I think he will in
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this game a little bit because of the Bowers being
out there present and a little bit healthier since he
was bothered by that knee injury.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Another thought on the Raiders on defense, now, I mean,
obviously it's Matt Crosby. Max Crosby is the number one
priority for any offense.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What else do the Raiders pose defensively? What do they
put out there?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well, they have guys that and they're they're the chip
on the shoulder guys that Pete Carroll has gathered like
a Devin White, you know, as a former buccaneer, and
then he was in Houston briefly and he's having a
good year for them at the linebacker spot. Jamal Adams,
Jeremy Chin. So it's kind of it's kind of a
ragtag group by the Eric Stokes is probably their best
cover guy. I think they can I think they can
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be had in the secondary if if they you know,
if Trevor Harts has time and delivers the ball and
and the Jag receivers hang on to the hang on
to the football. But yes, Adam Butler will be coming
back up front. That will really help Crosby who's been
double teamed a lot. Butler hurt his back and he's
on that inside tackle spot usually near Crosby, although they
move Crosby around and he's a fascinating player to watch
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in that Miles Garrett kind of kind of mold, So, yes,
you got to be aware of where he is and
then I think you can attack in a lot of
different areas of that defense. They are transitioning from a
Pete Carroll. You know Patrick Graham who was the decordinator
before he was there with the Raiders, and Pete's kind
of taking a little bit of his and trying to
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bring his But I don't know if he has all
the players. They are getting Lonnie Johnson back. They say
this strong safety, had a great training camp, got hurt
at a leg injury. That can help a little bit
in the secondary. But yes, Crosby, you start and you
finish with him, I think on that Raider defense.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Chris Pete Carroll is what seventy three boy?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I know he's the oldest coach in the oldest who ever,
I think he's seventy four. He turns in four this
year because he's the oldest coach to have coached in
the NFL, and he keeps adding to it when he
celebrates another birthday. Yes, yeah, he's in that age range
where most people are sitting back and relaxing, but he
doesn't want to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, he still has the energy and everything to go
with it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
That we'll see if they keep losing games, that can
they can wear on anybody. But what what do you
notice about Carol when you sit out with him?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, the same, you know, it's funny. And I covered
a lot of his Seattle teams. You're sitting there the meetings,
and he has, you know, this, the same kind of process.
He's very positive, that's very authentic. But he's also realistic
about which guys are coming along and where they need
to make changes. Uh And I you know, before the
game he's out there throwing the football and and and
run it around. So I haven't seen anything change there
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and I don't I don't think he's lost touch with
the league. I mean, his Seattle teams were contending. He
knew at least he told us that when he was
out for that year. He didn't want to make a
big public thing about it, but he wanted to coach again,
you know, and that's why he sat and waited it.
I thought it was an interesting move by the Raiders.
Uh And and for them, by the way, let me
point out a very emotional week jp they you know,
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Al Davis's wife, who was still technically the owner of
the team, passed away, So missus Davis kind of the
you know, the key person of the organization all those
years when when Al on the team and then they're
their only son, Mark Davis, who's who's operating things with
you know, hiring Tom Brady and John Spytech from Tampa Bay.
But they also lost George Atkinson, a great Raider player
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who was involved in the organization. He passed away and
he was a very close friend of Mark Davis. So
I already sense a little bit and I'll have more
when we get to spend more time with them. But
the emotion there of the Raiders, that's something the players.
I think they might use that in a way, Pete
Carroll in a good way, you know, to help heal
as those situations pop up. And Pete's kind of He's
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already talked about that this week, and that's the kind
of guy he is. He tries to find something to
connect the emotion with his players. They so they play
that way. But I haven't seen any I haven't seen
any disconnect with him. If any maybe the Pete Carroll
hire of and I believe it was his call with
Chip Kelly. That's where there seems to be a little
bit of you know, are they on the same page.
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Pete usually lets his offensive coordinator do his thing, and
it's Chip Kelly back in the NFL, is taking him
some time to kind of get up to speed to
where Pete and uh, you know the team would like
him to be. That's worth keeping an eye on.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The oldest coach in the league with against one of
the youngest coaches and Liam cohen So yeah, an interesting Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Liam has a lot of a lot of bravado. What
I like what he said. I think I was Trevor
Lards during the week, who you guys are on this
but talked about you know he Liam's accountable for things too,
and he'll admit I called the wrong play here, and
he doesn't just say it, he'll show us and try
to correct it. So I thought that was a positive
thing in the sense that the players, you know, they
know their coach while he's trying to get them all together,
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that he can make mistakes too, and account comes back
to accountability that's tossed around in a lot of locker
rooms and by a lot of coaches and teams and players.
But but here it seems like Liam Cohen is is
trying to stress that to his Jags team in a
game that I think they really need to have to
kind of like, I look, the only I think it's
only three teams with a winning record the rest of
the way that the Jags play, and of course the
Colts are in there so and they've only had the
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one division game right that they want against Houston. So
to me, if you're a Jags fan, you can hang
on to that, but you can't let this one slip
by you. If you know, if your team is healthy
and goes in there and plays good football.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Chris Meyer is a NFL on Fox. I'm sure we'll
do it again at some point this season. We've done
it three times already.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
All right.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I always look forward to it. Thanks you, take care
of joy of the game.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Mike Dempsey catches up with CBS Sports senior writer Pete Briscoe.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Well, I think you can focus on the little things,
and by that I mean all those pre snap penalties,
getting to play in on time, not checking out of
a play when the play clock is going down so
you get a delay of game or have to call
time out. The little things. I think that's what you
can work on during your bye week. Getting in and
out of the huddle getting lined up. You know, it's
hard to believe that it's you know, this far into
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the season and they're still having all those issues, but
they are, so I think that first and foremost, Mike,
that has to be something that they focus on coming
out of the buy and on into the rest of
the season.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I'm with you, though, Pete, like, if this is all
so directable, why are we two months in the season
is still kind of an epidemic for the Jacksonville Jaguars?
Is this just the identity of who they are? Do
you think they can make significant improvement.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I'll be honest with you, Mike, I think it's an
epidemic in the league right now. There's so many pre
snap penalties and sloppy teams lining up, and you know,
the league has made an emphasis on calling you know,
illegal shift closer this year, and I think that's shown
up so you know, they're bad at it. But it's
not just them. It's a lead league wide epidemic, and
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I think it's it's on all these coaches and all
these players to take accountability and make sure you're lined
up right, make sure you're not jumping off sides. Make
sure you're not, you know, moving when the ball is
being snapped if you're not supposed to be moving. So
a bunch of different things are at play. But it's
not just Jacksonville's across the league, all right.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Travis Hunter had a breakout game offensively against the Rams
prior to the buy pete. What are your expectations form
offensively and defensively now in the remaining ten games of
this year.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
The way I think it should be in the way
I think it will be is he's the number one
wide receiver and he will be the number one cornerback.
And you know what, it's time to amp him up
in both. It's time for him to start playing more
on both sides of the ball. I think he's their
best corner. I think he's their best receiver, and now
you go use him that way. So I do think
he's going to get a lot more attention when it
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comes to the offense, and I think on defense he's
got to be out on the field playing corner because
he's so good at it. So I think you're going
to start to see what they've anticipated him doing at
the beginning of the year, which is playing much more
on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
All right, Pete.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
When you look at this Raiders roster, they've got a
few premium players, which one causes more problems for Jacksonville today.
Is it brock Bowers or is it Max Crosby.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Oh, it's definitely Max Crosby. And look, he plays the
game at a different speed than the rest of the
guys on the field. He's a maniac and he also
plays the game his own way. And by that I
mean he doesn't always play the defense. What you hear
out of there is he could do much what he
wants to and everybody has to adjust to it. So
he can be a game wrecker. He can, you know,
(14:05):
be one of those guys that get sack, fumble, turn
it over and turn those into points. So he has
to be the guy you focus on. They will, they
have to, but if you don't get him blocked, you're
not beating them. I think Bowers is a good players
coming off an injury, and I think they can do
some things to try and limit him. And plus Gino
Smith hasn't played that well, So I think if you
(14:26):
hadn't asked me like you just did, I would pick
Max Crosby.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, and you look at Ashton Genty. He's a good player,
but he hasn't made this massive impact on this team
so far. He's only had two games where he's had
over four yards per carry this year. Jags are six
in the league in run defense. I think they can
do a decent job corraling him today.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And that's the idea today is go corral him and
put it on that passing game. And like I said earlier,
Gino Smith has not played very well. There has to
be concerned about Gino Smith. So choke off the run,
make sure that Genty doesn't get going, and then and
you know, try and get after Gino Smith a little
bit and don't allow him to get in any rhythm.
We've seen that before. If Gino Smith gets going, it's
(15:08):
a problem. If he doesn't, you can turn them over
and get some takeaways. And I think that's ultimately what
the game plan.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Will be, all right, Pete quickly trade deadline a couple
of days away. If the Jags were to add, where
would you like to see them add the.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Most defensive tackle? I think that would be the number
one priority. Make some calls, you know, Zack Steeler down
in Miami, maybe Kalais Campbell, the old Jaguar who they
were in on last year. As these teams are selling,
I think you need to look at some defensive tackles.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
The Steelers a really nice player as well, all right, Pete.
Coming out of the buy, do the Jags get the
win over the Raiders who are also coming out their buy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I do.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I think they go out there and win that game,
get back into a little bit of a rhythm. And
by the way, I think this is a big week
for them and for Liam Koh coming out of a buy,
getting the mistakes cut down and moving on from their
young team coming off of buy. It's interesting to see
how they play, but I think Liam Kong will get
them playing well. I do think that they have a
good day offensively, and I.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Think they win the game.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now to the Jaguars offensive line and Senator Robert Hainsey
with Brian Sexton.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
What does it take to come out of the bye
week playing well?
Speaker 8 (16:14):
No secrets, just getting back to work.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Everyone's super focused on what they need to what they
need to improve on. Like I keep saying, improving is
individuals trying to raise the standard and raise the elevation
of the entire team.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
There's been a lot of talk this week about getting
the running game going. From your perspective, what you've seen,
what needs to happen for it to perform at the
level it was earlier this year.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Well, we need to stay on track, we need to stop,
we need we can't when you get behind the chains,
it's hard to call runs. As much as we all
want to say, keep calling them, like as a play caller,
that's a hard spot to be. And so one staying
on track, staying second, third, and manageable, so we can
keep calling the runs and trusting it, and that makes
a huge difference. When you get down points and you
get behind the sticks, it's hard to call runs and
(16:55):
then it's hard to convert.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So this is kind of like the domino effect of it.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
So I think stay on track, making them, making the
runs go on first and second down as best we can,
uh minimize, minimizing any mistakes that bring us backwards.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
What's it been like in your room the last two
weeks after giving up as many sacks as you guys have.
I know it's not part of what you thought this
offensive line was going to play like. So what has
your conversation been.
Speaker 9 (17:18):
Like Well, the thing with protection is it takes all
of us to be on the same page, and when
it comes to thinking about stuff, we are and we
all want the same result. It has to be everyone
in prick, I've said before, improving their technique to help
each other out. So the conversation has been, hey, how
(17:42):
can I how can I do my job better to
help you? And how can I do my job better
to help you? And so on and so forth.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
That's all it is.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
It's not nothing crazy, uncharacteristic, I would say, the last
two weeks and certainly not the standard. So it's good
question is what are we going to do about it?
And we've been working at we've been talking about it.
This shit doesn't happen overnight. It's process, so trusting each other,
holding each other accountable to what we need each other
to do to raise that standard and get back to
(18:08):
kind of how we were playing.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Ten games are left. That's a lot of football coming
out of the bye week. When you look at it
that way, it sure seems like there is plenty of
time to go where you want to go.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Yeah, I mean a couple years ago have a week
five bye weeks, so like we got a whole season
ahead of us staying there.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I mean, we've done some great stuff this year.
Speaker 9 (18:26):
We've done a lot of things that we want to
improve upon, and that's what the rest of the seasons about,
is improving the things that we felt we were lacking
and increasing the productivity and the things that we were
already doing well. Like you said, there's a ton of
football left, ton of games left. Every goal, everything we wanted,
all those things that every team talks about at the
beginning of the season is out there for everyone. No
(18:46):
one's eliminated yet, so we have plenty of time to
go do what we need to do in one game
at the time, one play at the time with each other,
just continue to grow and improve as a group, start
playing some really good football.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ryan Sexton also caught up with JAG's defensive lineman Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
So, had you ever played with an injury before like this?
And how big of a challenge was it for me
to learn to play a little bit different.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I have played with an injury like this, but it
was in college. But then I would say it was
more so like coming in being a specialist. It wasn't
every down player. So I mean that's been the biggest
adjustment for me, making it every down because I want
to get back to playing first, second, and third down.
I'm not I just really don't want to just come
in on a certain down or whatever. I just I
(19:29):
want to get I wanted to get back to normally.
I have played in this situation before, but it's just
a little bit more to overcome for me right now.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I heard that you wanted to go back in the
game in San Francisco and that you wanted to play
against Kansas City. Where does that mentality, I don't care
that it hurts come from.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (19:45):
I mean, it's just something that I always live by.
I'm not dead, I'm not sixties under the ground. I
still have a breadth of my lungs as long as
I'm able to do so. I still have my two
legs and can run around. That's what I wanted to do.
And my mindset, that's obviously. I think that just comes
from the way I raised by my parents, my mom
and dad. Oh, that's mainly where it stems from my
house raising. My mom and dad.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Tell me about what it takes to snap out of,
you know, losing two games and the bye week, it's
been a while since you've won, how do you get
ready to play after a couple of weeks off?
Speaker 10 (20:17):
I say, obviously we had the bye week. We just
got to build off of what we know that we
was doing wrong. It's all about small little details for
us on regardless, if we did some great things at
the first beginning of the season, now we did some
things that wasn't so good. So it's time for us
over the bye week to go back and look at
those things and evaluate ourselves and just coming out of
the bye week doing everything that we can't individually to help,
(20:39):
you know, do our part as individuals. No week links.
That's how I like to look at it. As long
as we have no week links and stay together as
a team and a unit offense, defense, special team, and
we'll go be fine. Just keep putting all the pieces
together and keep growing.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Since you bring that up, they're talking in Toronto during
the World Series about why the Blue Jays are able
to give the Dodgers such a great series. Said, it's
their connection. That their locker room is special because guys
are connected to one another. Do you feel that in
this locker.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Room, Oh, it's definitely one hundred percent.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
It's a great connection to how I feel like, but
only it can only get better. Like you say, this
is we got a new coaching staff who got a
lot of new coordinators. But the thing is is we've
been building this ever since OTA's It's all about the
foundation that we started with the OTA is that main foundation.
We just want to continuously build off of that. Sometimes
you might skew off the track a little bit, but
that's one I like about this group too. We might ever,
(21:31):
things might not always go as planned, but that's nobody's
going to be perfect. It's just for us to always
rally back together at the end of the day when
things get hard, just continuously come together and not spread apart.
I feel like that's what we do best.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And now my weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars
running back Fred Taylor. Time for out weekly conversation with
Pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. And I'm
sure you're rested and relaxed and ready for the stretch
run after the bye week, Fred.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, I'm certainly rested.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
JP.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I just hope the guys are rested, relaxed, healthy.
Speaker 11 (22:02):
You know, I was thinking this morning, man, like if
they're not feeling pressure. Why should we, like as fans,
why should we feel pressured? You know, no one seems
to be panicking. I saw Travis etn interview a few
days ago. He talked about, you know, just everybody's in
a good space. He talked about trust. You know, he
(22:24):
talked about accountability that comes from the head coach and
the stems across the team. So yeah, I think they're
all ready to kind of write this ship and correct
this two game slide.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, four and three record heading out to Las Vegas
to face the Raiders team that's two and five, and
you know what they it's a pretty good matchup of
running backs. Ashton Gent's on the other side. Of course,
he was second place in the Heisman voting to Travis
Hunter last year.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Of course, hunting out of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Jenny out a boise, so he's he's making a mistackles happened.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's having some production in the run game. Now.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The Raiders are what they are on offense, but Jenny
is a bright spot for them.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (23:08):
I mean, I'm looking at he's around four yards of carry.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I mean, you'll take that every day of the week.
Speaker 11 (23:14):
You know, they have their own little walls and troubles,
whatever's going on with them.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
But again they took him. It was his sixth overall
for a reason.
Speaker 11 (23:24):
Guy who has tremendous jump cut reminds me a lot
of Jones Drew. You know, he's fast, he gets downhill,
he runs with power, he can make you miss. He
catches the ball. Well again, you said he's there, one
big bright spot. So defensively, it's gonna start with him.
They know they're going to try to get the ball.
Pete Carroll's an old school coach. He wants to run
(23:44):
the ball. He wants to hit you with play action.
Geno Smith a guy who's moved around. But Gino is
a good quarterback.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
He can get it. He can get it done.
Speaker 11 (23:53):
You know, he kind of had this resurgence of a
career back in Seattle under Pete Carroll. So them together,
trust me, I'm sure they're always on the same page.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Show.
Speaker 11 (24:05):
But it starts with gent and then on the flip side,
you know you got Max Crosby, who's the leader of
that defense.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
High energy.
Speaker 11 (24:14):
The problem that the Jaguars have had the past two weeks,
they hadn't played bad teams.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
They played two really good teams with very very very good.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Defensive front, and that caused Jacksonville all types of trouble
up front.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It exposed their offensive line.
Speaker 11 (24:30):
So if you can't get a hat on Max Crosby
and the rest of the crew, then you're going to
struggle again, no.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Doubt about that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
One more note on the Raiders team, and Brock Bowers
could be back this week too. And we know what
that tight end did to the Jaguars last year. Eleven
catchers ninety nine yards in that game, which is you know,
it doesn't feel like well, it's just like chipping away
and just they couldn't stop it all day long. So yeah,
he'll be back in the mix as well. And let's
go to the Jaguars offense now, and what is the
(25:02):
number one priority you think coming out of the bye
week to get this offense moving again like it was early.
Speaker 11 (25:09):
I got a lot of number one priority on abc D.
There are all number ones, But for me, it starts
with the guys up front. That's just good old football.
It starts with the guys in the trenches. The offensive line.
You know you're starting out the season, you know they're
protecting Trevor no sacks, they had two hundred yard rushing
(25:31):
performance followed up by you know, another almost two hundred
yard rushing performance with no sacks, barely in the QB
pressures the QB hits in those matchups, you know, they
go on and they win those games. You know, they
don't struggle at all. The games that they struggle up
front where you don't have one hundred yards rushing or
(25:54):
you know, you you've been exposing your quarterbacks been sacked
six times or hit ten times, right, those are the
games that you've lost. So for me, it will start
with the offensive line and then try to find a
way to get Travis Etn back on track. I think
the play calling is still sufficient. The play calling is
very good, you know, in my opinion, it's just that
(26:16):
in the past game, they're taking turns play back. You know,
if Trevor's going to show lack of accuracy on certain
plays where some overthrows or some balls in the dirt
and then the balls that are in the receiver's frame
they're dropping it, you know, So guys are just taking
turns making bad plays. So one A would be offensive line,
(26:41):
one B would be Travis Etn. One C would be
the quarterback, and one D would be the receivers, and D.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Doesn't stand for drop.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
We want catches, So maybe I should have put them
at c's for catches and.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
D for the quarterback for a nation. Yeah, he needs
to go out and dominate.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I like that A lot Jaguars leave the league and
drop passes, by the way, twenty one of them. And
if those were made, Lawrence's completion percentage would go up
to sixty seven percent for the season if the catches
are made.
Speaker 11 (27:18):
Yeah, and if anybody's out there keeping track, that's three
drops per game, you know, easy math.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Twenty one invided by seven games.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, Trevor's not having a bad season. Man.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
You know, I think Trevor along with coach Cohen, I
think they have some good synergies.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Uh you know, rarely they're not on the same page.
Speaker 11 (27:39):
And we've seen somebody language in a few games where
Liam once more because he understands what this quarterback is
capable of, so pushing him is totally fine with me.
But again, the receivers need to catch the balls that
they're supposed to catch, because one, they're all capable and
they get paid to do it, so they need to do.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
It, Fred Taylor with US. Four of the next five
games spred are on the road.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
All four of.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Those games, though, are against losing teams right now, So
if you're looking at it from the ten thousand foot perspective, oh,
this is the area of the schedule where the Jaguars
need to make some hay here and get ahead and
stockpile some winning results and then get to the meat
of the divisional schedule in late November and December. Right,
But we know you can't really look at it like
(28:31):
that as a team. You're going week to week, So
how much stress do you put on this week's game?
And the Raiders and you know a lot of people
around here, not in the building, but around the building
outside the building are saying it's a must win game.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Let's not a playoff game. What's your feeling.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
I think they're must wins are only because you approach
you with a sense of urgency, Right, That's just part
of competing in sport because everything's gonna shake out the
way it shakes out at the end of the season.
So you don't look at it and say, well, it's
a must win for a playoff, you know, thought or
(29:12):
whatever but just because it's a it's the next game
that's on the schedule and you want to win it.
I believe you know, you're either getting better or you're
getting worse.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
That's the NFL, right.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
We can look at these teams and say, well, they're
under five hundred, they absolutely are trash. Like the young
kids say they're trash, they're cooked. But these teams are
still practicing, they're still watching film, they still they're still
trying to get better. They still have had games where
(29:45):
they've only lost by a touchdown or two, and they
believe they should have won games if this didn't happen,
and vice versa. And that's what the Jaguars are thinking, like, hey,
if we had done this, maybe we can win these games.
You go back to the Cincinnati game, a team that
had played great since since the Jaguars game. So you're
either getting better or you're getting worse. And nothing's guaranteed.
(30:08):
Nothing guaranteed this league. So they just got to go
out there and take it game by game. Starting with
the Raiders here, you would expect them to come home
with a victory, but again, nothing's guaranteed in this league.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Anything can happen.
Speaker 11 (30:26):
If you go out there and you're kind of sitting
on your hands. Then you're gonna let them get in
the game, get some momentum behind their home crowd, and
before you know, you're down and you're frustrated, and now
you're dropping balls, getting sacks, allowing passes and then you lose.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And that's how it all happens.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Man, this is what NFL field football feels like.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You're four and three right around five hundred and all
the games are pretty close for the most part.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
This is what most teams in the league are going through.
It's not pretty, gonna.
Speaker 11 (31:00):
Be perfect, yeah, and and teams are gonna separate themselves
here as we enter the midway point of the season.
But again it's the NFL man, like, we can sit
back and say this and say that and try to
fool ourselves. There were it was three weeks ago or
four weeks ago, if you're including the bye week. You know,
(31:20):
we said this team was gonna be a team that
probably gonna run off, you know, several games without losing.
But then you hit a speed bumping, you spill your coffee,
and you lose two, right, you lose two cups of
coffee actually, and then now you gotta find a way
to get back on track. But it's the NFL. Man,
they thought the Raiders are gonna be good. You look
(31:40):
at Houston, a team who's reminds me of Jacksonville a lot.
Houston because they're two games away, but their offensive line
is where it starts because they have a really good
defensive mind, as do the Jaguars. But it's the offense
that's been sort of stowing them down, and it's been
because of the offense line. So Jacksonville has to make
sure they correct everything up front in order to get
(32:04):
back on the winning side of things.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Fred, I mean, you can't be spilling coffee because the
price of coffee beans is through the roof right now.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I mean, this is expensive.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
So well, you know, I'm not drinking coffee. I'm actually
drinking Pivot performance energy drink. And it comes and it
can and you still less. I mean, I mean that's
what I'm doing these days. But I love the whole
coffee process. Well are coffee beans coming from Columbia? Yeah,
(32:35):
I don't know. Well, good luck to the coffee drinkers,
good luck to the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
A gentleman who is far from cooked. Fred Taylor.
Speaker 11 (32:43):
Yeah, no, No, I'm more like baked or seasoned. They
like to say you're old. No, I like to think
of it as seasoned. I'm seasoned. I'm not cooked at all.
We cooked somedays, JP, but not today.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's weak nine the Jaguars and the Raiders at four
oh five Eastern at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Enjoy the game.
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