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Speaker 1 (00:06):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. I am Nick Eatman.
It's Friday, March the seventh. Yes, it's Friday. We've moved
some things around, different schedule this week. We appreciate you
guys adjusting accordingly. And let's talk some Cowboys football. It's
been it's been a week already. Big news, I guess Wednesday.

(00:46):
Really the big news was Tuesday when the Cowboys re
signed Osa o'digizua. And that's a surprise. Is a surprise
to be a four years but eighty million dollars. I
got fifty two million guaranteed. Those numbers are surprising. The
timing of it all is even more surprising. Cowboys not

(01:09):
waiting till the last minute. I know there's a there's
a thought process that they that they that's what they do. Remember,
there's it takes two to make this thing happen. And
OsO wanted to be here, also wanted to be with
the Cowboys. He wanted to return so much so that
he didn't even go to free agency that's very telling

(01:30):
that just how much a guy wants to be in
the building and wants to play for this football team.
Could he have gotten more? Maybe probably there's a lot
of people out there, he's young, a lot of people
out there with a lot more money than the Cowboys. Yeah,
he probably could have done that. And I think that's
what what kind of took it a leaven longer than

(01:50):
I thought it was going to be because there was
a time when we were in Indianapolis for the combine
that it looked like this is a done deal. I mean,
Patrick Walker had a story ready, We're ready to roll.
This was going to happen. Then it carried on a
little bit. I think the agent shopped, not shop the
deal to other teams, but maybe talk to other agents.
Sees this the right move, Well you should wait, wait,
wait for them to put the franchise tag on them,

(02:11):
because they were gonna put the tag on them. Got
down to that final hour of Coway's got a deal done.
They now they have a defensive tackle, you know, so
diggy do it that that they really love. I know
Matt Eberflus is a huge fan of Osum and you know,
now now we'll see, he's got to take that next level.
Probably one of the biggest contracts you've ever seen to
a player that hasn't made a Pro Bowl. So this
is a This is a contract of what he's going

(02:33):
to do. All contracts should be that way, what they're
going to do. All right, Eight and eight eight PI
five two two ninety seven is the number to call.
And I'll say this. We've added something a little bit
different with in the in our app. We uh with
this new feature now where you can chat inside the app.
That's a little scary, be keep it clean, please, but
you can chat in there. You guys can can chat

(02:55):
obviously among yourselves and ask questions as well. So we've
got that monitor. We may throw a question or two
or seven whatever in there today. We'll see that depends
on you guys. We know we have callers. We're gonna
start with that. Brian in Kansas City is first. Brian,
what's up?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Good morning, sir, How are you? I'm doing great?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Thanks? Right, he was.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
It was good to see, uh see that you had
a good I don't know if you were a front row,
but you had a good seat for Zach's retirement front row. Yeah,
that you were in the frame was hard with the
way the camera angles were working. Oh yeah, I couldn't
tell if you were in the front row. I thought
you might have been.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, it was front row off to the side.
Got my question in about Larry Allen. That was a
I don't know about it was that emotional, but it's sad.
You know, it's a sad deal, you know, because you
just you just those are the type of guys that
you just think are going to be there forever, and
they're going to be playing at a high level forever,

(03:52):
and then you just get surprised when it doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Did you get your handshake?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I did. I got my handshake. Thanks for bringing that up,
and he remembered. He kind of laughed. I'll tell that
story again if I need to, but well, after your
your call, but yes, yes, I got my handshake with him.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
So I don't know if you remember this, but during
the year when he went down injured, I kind of thought,
you know, we've probably seen the last of Zach Martin.
And I mentioned that back and I didn't know when,
but remember they did that series of mean tweets. Oh yeah,
well guess what it was His rookie year.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
If they did that, that's right.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
So I'm gonna and I had to paraphrase the one
that he read, but it was it's my favorite Zach
Martin memory because it's just hysterical. So this is the
one he read. It says John Quo, Cowboys fan, and
he's reading and he's chuckling as he's saying it because
it's so funny. I liked the Zach Martin pick. But
it's like getting new socks for Christmas when you wanted

(04:53):
in Xbox one. Yeah, and he's just you know, you know,
kind of he's such an easy going guy. He's just
laughing as he's reading that.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I would I wonder who the xbox?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Who the who the Xbox? And man, is that sad
that that was the Xbox one was that was his
rookie year, and I like, I still have an Xbox one.
That just goes to show we need to make it
up grade. But anyways, Yeah, but I don't know who
the Xbox was. Aaron Donald, I mean, he was that
that year and he was drafted a lot higher than that.
Odell Beckham was in that draft. But I think Zach

(05:29):
Zach Martin's is xbox worthy. Uh, for sure, a lot
better than any socks you would see. Great pick. It
was one of the best picks in Cowboys history when
you think about it, I mean, you know, just drafting
a guy where they did, and how much scrutiny was
around that pick, even inside the war room. That's been
talked about obviously, But what a what a career.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, absolutely unbelievable he is. When I was listening to SO,
I don't know that you saw the coverage of what
Romo said. Did you hear what Romo said about him
after the ye that he'd never seen anything like that
where somebody just came in and on day one was
the best person he had ever seen a tech position.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's uh, it's unbelievable. I mean
it's the closest thing to to Larry Allen that you
that we've seen, you know, as far as that position
and that dominance. I'm not talking about what they look like,
how they play, what they've been pressed. I'm talking about
playing the position at the highest of levels.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
So yeah, absolutely, yeah. He just just an unbelievable player.
And I always loved how he handled the media, his interviews.
He you know he would do the I don't know
what Brad Sham and Christy Scales call that. What do
they call that radio show that they do once a week.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, yeah, Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Hour, Cowboys Hour. He did that a bunch of times.
Always just a really congenial guy telling you how. It
is very, very fan likable. You know, he just had
that kind of persona about him, you know, as opposed
to you know, you've seen all kinds of people go

(07:16):
through the organization. You've seen him up much closer than
we ever get to see him. That Not everybody's that friendly,
you know, not everybody's enjoys talking to the fans and
giving the fans a little window into his world.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, now, I he was the best. He's the best.
We're going to miss him, Brian, Did you have anything else?

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:38):
So, you know, my only other question was is I'm
going to stick with the offensive line today? My only
other question is I think the only person we got
left we signed Brock to a new deal. So my
only other question was, and I know it sounds funny
because I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but
we actually ran the ball better when he was in there.
Do we know if there's a plan, are they thinking

(07:59):
about bringing back Chuma Doga as the backup plan to
you know, if if one of the tackles doesn't come
through and play is expected. Yeah, and I'll hang up
and listen.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Man a right.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Appreciate it, Brian. I mean, Tuma wasn't was supposed to
be kind of the bridge in the gap until it
was time for Tyler Goeyton to come in. And as
it turned out, you know, and Tchuma got hurt some too,
but he was better than Goydon and the whole year,
even later in the year when when they wanted to
still win games, Tyler Goydon wasn't the better option. So
that was disappointing that that he didn't take that leap

(08:35):
that they that they thought over over Tuma. You're gonna sign,
you know, they're gonna have some some backup plans, some
veteran guys. You know, I think that they're hoping awesome
Richards can maybe be be that guy too where he
can play some guard tackle and he's supposed to be
the younger version of what Tuma was able to do.
So maybe that's the route that they go. But but

(08:57):
you know, you're gonna we'll see what happens. I say,
we see what happens in the draft. Obviously free agency
is first, but but you know, you'll you'll band aid
the position with free agency with you know, with you know,
with the tackle or guard. I would imagine they re
signed a veteran, maybe it's trueman, maybe it's someone like

(09:17):
that in that range, in that price range, and then
see what happens. Obviously with with the draft. The story
Brian was talking about with the handshake was just after
the end of the season. He said, Zach Martin said
he didn't know what he was doing yet. He wasn't
making any plans on retiring. He just he hasn't made
up his mind. And so but everyone took that and

(09:37):
started shaking his hand, say it was a pleasure, you know,
And I was just like, well, he didn't say that,
so I'm not gonna And then he goes to shake
my hand. I was like, no, we're not doing that.
You'll be back. We're not doing all that right now.
If it's time to do that, we'll do it. And
so obviously it was they were right. And then when
it was time to you know, him to retire, then
I actually gave the formal handshake. But gonna miss him.

(09:59):
We're gonna miss I'm just just as a person, just
as a person, just a cool, down to earth guy
like Brian was talking about. That's what he was. But
you know, but he's I think he's making the right decision.
I think he sees the writing on the wall as
he's tyring Travis Frederick. Do you want to keep playing
and keep playing and and you know, risk injury? And
I think that's when you're when you have an all

(10:20):
world type talent like that, and regardless of the sport,
you know as a standard that you play to and
when you when you don't meet that standard, it might
be good enough to still play in the league and
start for teams. But nobody wants to see that. You know,
Nobody wanted to see Michael Jordan there with the Wizards
and playing like that. Nobody wants to see that. And

(10:41):
and I'm okay with that comparison. I'm okay with that.
I even wrote that in my article about about comparing
Larry to Zach Martin. It's like the I don't know
where you stand on the Lebron Michael Jordan thing, but
you know, if Lebron is not Michael Jordan. It's still
a pretty decent place to be number two all time.
And maybe that's Zach Martin if he's not as good
is Larry On. Okay, well, you're the second best guard

(11:02):
in the history of the Cowboys, the first. The first
is probably the best that's ever played. So that's okay.
You've done well with your life if that's If that's
where you are, all right, let's go to Irene in
Falls Church, Virginia.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
Good morning, Nick, How you doing good?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
How are you well?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Well?

Speaker 7 (11:19):
Hey, so Jack Martin, congrats on the career. I would
like to hear your favorite Zach Martin story if you
didn't already share that. Only heard the last part of
your comments from Brandy. For me, I mean, it's not
really a good, great elongated story, but I loved when
he did the little they caught him on there doing
the little dance after a play in the huddle. That

(11:42):
was just like, oh, he has a personality. He's not
just this very somber.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Guy, you know.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
And then free.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Agency, okay, so you know, to be honest, like the
OSA thing, if you go back and I'm not going
to stand on and be like, oh it was for osa.
If you go back to listen to some of our spaces,
I was like, if it can go.

Speaker 10 (12:04):
But I'm I'm.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Proud of the front office for actually signing a player
who you know, played up to his potential contract has.
I think he's like top three in a lot of
stats that that matter. Pressure is that sort of thing. Yeah,
so win rate maybe, so I'm okay with that. It's

(12:26):
way less than the franchise tag would have been, So
that would have been I have a nightmare to just
hold him for a year. So good for them being proactive.
Lots of restructures here.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
My I want to know.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
I think that they're going to sign Micah in a
timely manner. Is that the feeling you have in the
building has right now?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okays, a lot of stuff there. Favorite Zach Martin story.
I don't have a lot because I mean, he wasn't
that type of guy. He's a He's a guy you
didn't even think about, he didn't even worry about. You know,
he's there, He's gonna be great, he's gonna make he's
going to be dependable. That's that's the way it was.
I mean, I always thought it was funny though, the
three fifteen story, you know, like when he would like

(13:08):
and they didn't play a lot of noon games, you know,
especially at home, but but when they did, it was
always a thing that Zach I think one time just
yelled out, you know, after the coach was done talking.
It was probably Garrett, and he said, hey, guys, guess what,
it's only three fifteen, you know, which means they got
the whole day to do whatever they want to do.
And everyone just thought that was so funny that Zach

(13:29):
Martin would would do that, and then that became a bit.
That was his thing anytime there was a game now,
not after a loss probably, but again they're not losing
a lot of games. If it's noon, they probably won
the game and they were at home, and when it
was appropriate then he would yell out, it's only three fifteen.
So that was that was kind of his thing. I
don't know if I guess you had to be there,

(13:50):
but that was the thing for Zach as for Osa
And like you said, yeah, I mean, kudos to the
to the Cowboys front office for getting that and and
you know, not not over I say, overpaying twenty million
a year. I mean, that's that's still a big contract.
But I think he's seventeenth. I saw that sixteenth or

(14:12):
seventeenth in average salary for defensive tackles, So you know,
when you think about it, he's probably right there. I
bet he was close to making the Pro Bowl this year,
maybe as an alternate. So when you think about that,
that's you know, you get what three defensive tackles for
each side, so you're you're looking in the top ten.

(14:34):
He's probably a top ten defensive tackles, especially for his age,
and he's still got you know, a lot of football
left to play. So you know, that deal is as
crazy as it sounds, probably isn't the biggest, you know,
the biggest setback there. And then and then also my
feeling for Micah, yeah, I get yeah, I get the
sense that they're going to get a deal done. I think,

(14:57):
like I said, it takes two sides. They want to
get the deal done. He wants to get the deal done.
And then you know, just like with CD, I mean
when once Justin Jefferson went now, it's like all right,
there's there's a ballpark, and Max Crosby's contract just went down.
So I can't imagine Mike had taken less than that,

(15:18):
so and I haven't looked at all the details on that,
but I just know that those are the kind of
contracts that are gonna help drive this thing. So yeah,
I mean the pieces are falling in place to get
it done. All right, We're doing some We got some
questions coming in from the app Now these questions don't
have names to it, just really more topics to talk

(15:39):
about so we can do that. One of the questions says,
does re signing OSA make it easier to get the
Mica deal done? Not not necessarily financially. I don't think
it does. I don't think. I mean, they have the
money to get to get the deal done. And and
remember the deal is going to lower the the the

(16:01):
salary cap number for the Cowboys this year, so it's
not like they've got to get these deals done. I mean,
once they he's gonna count like twenty something twenty four
million with the on the cap right now. So any
any deal that he makes gonna save money. It's probably
in the range of ten to eleven million that they'll save.

(16:21):
So I don't think anything needs to happen to get
the deal done. Now, does keeping OSA somebody in the
middle that got fifty fifty six pressures last year. That'll help.
Michah wants to play with a guy like that. He
wants to play with a defensive tackle and get up
the field too, because if you can get a defensive

(16:42):
tackle getting up the field when Micah gets around the edge,
what do all quarterbacks do when you get around the edge?
They step up in the pocket. Well, guess what if
Osa's sitting there also with the pressure, there's no place
to step up to. Everybody wants that Osa wants Micah
and another guy on the outside. Michael want that guy
on the inside. So from that standpoint, yes, I think

(17:03):
that's important. It's important to have have some guys that
you're going to play next to in the middle of
the field. But financially, I don't think it helps that
much more. And then another question there all time favorite
Zach Martin play Again, there's no like I mean, because
when you think about Larry Allen, ask yourself that with

(17:24):
Larry Allen, what's your favorite Larry Allen play? Well, most
people will talk about an interception that Troy threw and
he chased down the guy in New Orleans. Now there's
been some other blocks and crushing blocks. That's not really
Zach Martin's game. There was a play that I remember.
I want to say it might have been It might
have been a rookie season for.

Speaker 11 (17:45):
Zeke.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I know it was an early game, probably one of
those games that ended at through fifteen, but one of
those games against the Lions where there was a screen
pass and Zach was out in space and I mean
he looked like Sunshine from remember the Titans, just out
there leading the way, blocking and running and blocking and
running all that. I want to say it was Zeke.
Maybe it was pollared, but it was early. It wouldn't

(18:09):
have been hollered, but it was early in Zach Martin's
career where it was like, man, this guy, this guy
is special. But again, that's what made him so good.
You don't have a lot that you really remember because
he didn't just sit there and pancake people. He just
did his job, did it better than everyone else, did
it for a long time. All right, Dustin and waksa
Hatchie Texas. What's up, hey man? How's it going good?

Speaker 12 (18:31):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (18:33):
I just a couple quick things. So one, I obviously
didn't love the at least what seemed like the public
process for hiring the coach. But I'll just say, the
more and more you see of this coach, it's really
really hard not to like him sure and understand why
he got the job. So I'm getting more excited, and
it definitely feels already this offseason that we're a little

(18:56):
bit more all in than maybe we were last year,
at least from the perception. The other thing I wanted
to see if you had a story after I tell
a super quick story. I've met two people in public
that have been associated with the Cowboys, both at the
really large furniture store up in the colony, and one

(19:17):
of them that I happened to meet was coach Gary Brown,
and obviously so sad that what happened with him, But
I'll just say we met him the year after the
Amazon series, and you know, my wife gets sick of
hearing me talk about the Cowboys, but she watched a
lot of that with me, and that was kind of

(19:37):
her favorite character from the show. She's like, he just
seems like a great guy. But I just went up,
shook his hand, introduced myself. Forty five minutes later, we're
still sitting there talking to him, because he was the
most engaging human I've probably ever met in my life.
Just a great guy, met his wife, met one of
his kids, just seem like an incredible human being. So

(19:58):
I just didn't know if you had any Gary Brown's
story you might be able to tell about the time
he was there with the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, Dustin, appreciate that good
good stuff. And your first part about Schottenheimer and the
coaching staff, I mean, they're they're winning the offseason right now.
That's and that's really it's a that's all you can do. Okay,
there's no wins and losses, and and a lot of

(20:27):
it is probably the state of the team and where
where how it ended, and just just the dark cloud
that had kind of been over a lot of things. Uh,
so far, it's been pretty positive. And and even though
he was not your first choice, I know he wasn't
because nobody ever called in and said that, myself included.

(20:49):
He so far, so good on on this stuff that
I'm seeing, the stuff that I'm hearing again, he hasn't
had to make a fourth down decision in the fourth
quarter of game yet. We'll see, it'll all change it once.
Once the season starts, you know, you would think good
or bad. It's just that's that's that's what you have

(21:09):
to go off at that point. It's like any player like,
well he's a really good guy, Like okay, cool, can
he play? Can he play corner? You know, like that's
that's all that matters, and so that so right now,
Schottenheimer though he's been great. We had a chance to
talk with him a little bit in Indianapolis, had had
a lunch with him with some of the other beat writers,

(21:30):
and it was very it was very engaging and like
seems very genuine. What's your favorite food, what's your favorite music,
what do you like? Here have you been? You know,
what's just stuff like that, just getting to know people,
just what human beings do. Now it's that time of
year to do that, you know, once the bullets start,

(21:51):
you know, flying around. We'll see how how things go.
But so far, so good on him and his whole staff.
And then the part about Gary Brown, Yeah, what a
great human being. Such a sad story for him. He
was a really really good running backs coach, really good person.
You know, I mean that's like you, like you said,

(22:14):
we did a series one time, we went to a
barbecue place up the road and we let the running
backs sit and kind of chop it up, if you will.
Zeke was in there, Tony Pollard, he was the running
backs coach, and he was telling stories and talking to
the guys and such a really good thing. I haven't
seen that in a while, but that that was a
cool feature that we did. We went to this place

(22:35):
and lit it up and had had them eating, you know,
and and but but talking and telling stories, and you know,
we used to do we do a feature called gut
Feeling every Friday, and when it's rolling and the Cowboys
are great and we're always picking them to win and
it's fun and easy. But when it's not the case
and we sometimes picked them to lose, then you know

(22:56):
that that can be a little bit, especially on a
road game when we're traveling with the team and it's
supposed to be all in here and then here's three
or four guys and then you know Rod twenty two
that you know, oh that it picked us to lose.
So that can get get kind of dicey. And he
would read that and he would come up to us
and like jump, pick us to win and we're like,
not really, coach, you know, and then you walk over

(23:18):
you pick us to win and be like, man, that's
nice weather here today. You know. No, no, didn't. And
it was a one game in Seattle where he was.
He was like, they actually think He put that up
on their team meeting and said, look at all four
of these guys, all four of these riders. Nobody on
your own team thinks that you're going to win this game,
you know, and they use that as a rally cry.

(23:41):
They didn't win. They didn't win the game. But that's
you know, that's neither here nor there. All right, Another
question here, how do you interpret Jerry's comments on needing
to fill voids in free agency? Not needing to fill
voids and free agencies. What he said, this is from
Josh and Princeton. So he put his name in. That's
how you need to do it. Guys on the app,

(24:01):
put your name in here, name and where you're from,
just like we do on the callers. That that'll be
a lot easier and then you know, we people can
kind of know who you are. Good question, because it
was an interesting statement. You know, when you just break
it off like that, and that's the headline. That doesn't
sound good. I think listening to the quote, he kind
of got a better understanding. He's not changing his thought

(24:21):
process on the draft. The draft is still the most
important thing.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's saying that once we get done with the draft
and resigning our own guys, he doesn't feel they'll have
a lot of huge voids. That's just what they believe.
They don't believe that you fill these voids in free agency.
You you put band aids on things, but you don't
necessarily fill the void there. They just feel like you're

(24:47):
gonna overpay for players. But we'll see. You know, they've
said a lot of things that that that you wouldn't
necessarily expect to happen. So a part of all this
is is negotiating as well. So if Jerry comes out
and says, yeah, yeah, we're gonna fill some needs and
free agency one hundred and so, well, what do they have, Well,

(25:09):
they don't have a running back. So oh this guy's available,
watch out for the Cowboys. The Cowboys might be signing him.
I mean, what, whych up your hand on anything at
this point in the year, So let's see how it goes.
I wouldn't be surprised. If they make some moves, you'd
call it feel an a void or not. But I
think I think they'll they'll be making some moves for sure.

(25:29):
Let's go to Randy and text or cana. Randy, what's up?

Speaker 9 (25:33):
Well? I left you on Aquarium yesterday. I stick around
very long. Something fiche about that plate? Okay, what do
you think about that?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think that is a really great, terrible joke. But
you know what, I'm a dad dad and I have
dad jokes, and and it was almost like I knew
it was coming, all right.

Speaker 9 (25:55):
Right, right, so all right, So it's the first thing
I thought of I saw some of the coaching changes
was the fact that the receivers coach used to be
Cooper Cub's coach, and Cooper had a lot of really
good things to talk say about him, and so that
got me excited, thinking, all right, maybe we've got a

(26:15):
chance of going after Cooper into trade or if he's
I'm not sure if he's been completely released yet or not.
As my fault service.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
By the way, somebody's calling to tell you that.

Speaker 9 (26:27):
Yeah they are, it's my work phone. I don't care anyway,
but he's he seems to be injured a lot here lately,
so I'm kind of excited about that, hopefully maybe, But
then I see all these other receivers that are starting
to drop out on the market, like the Bonde Adams.
Don't know if we can afford them all that, But
my thought is, should we since there toward the end

(26:49):
of the season last year, our defense seemed to be
a little above where our offense was. Should we go
after more of a vet and receiver to fill that
void of the number two, even if we have to
spend a little bit of money to go after that
and use the draft to concentrate on young defensive linemen,

(27:13):
running back stuff like that, because you keep hearing about
the defense being so you know, there being a lot
of really good ones in the draft.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Sure you know that that's that's a tough one. I mean,
what would you do because that you're not going to
be wrong? I mean, so is that where you're leaning
you'd rather have a veteran receiver.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
I kind of would, because I think with Dak, I mean,
you never know whether it's hamstring I'm saying. I know
they've got him strung out for four or five years
probably on the way that contract will left, But I'm
saying two to three good years left to Dak before
they start trying to figure out how to move on.

(27:55):
I'm saying, get him somebody now that's ready to plug
and play like a like a Devonte Adams or or
just pick one of the big name guys. Yeah, so
where so he can just come out and they can
just get the cooking. Yet. Yes, having a cheap, young, fast,
good wide receiver coming in is great, but they get
the big guys sometimes, you know the NFL spotlight, don't.

(28:19):
I don't know that our offense has two or three
years to build a guy along CD. I would like
for them to bring in somebody that can match CD
right now and concentrate on defensive Lindman and running back
and all that with their draft.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah that I mean that. That's a good debate because
me personally, I kind of feel like there needs to
be more speed at the position. CD. As great as
he is, you wouldn't call him a burner. Same with Tolbert,
and same with really any of those guys you're talking
about that are going to cost a lot of money.
They're they're they're great players for maybe different reasons, but

(28:56):
not so much take the top off type guys.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
So thinking could handle that.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Not really, I mean, and because that's not his thing,
Turpin not. I'm not talking about down the field because
just think about it, he gets three yard separation on somebody,
that ball comes comes flying in. By the time it
gets to him or he goes up for it, then
the corners kind of put his arm out and caught up.
That's just he's not a deep ball type guy. So

(29:25):
I think there's a different role with him. I could see.
I could see a big debate on that of making
a case of hey, I want I wanted a younger guy,
draft him, even first round. I know whether it's been
talked about. I don't love the first round wide receiver option,
but I could see I can see them making a
case for it.

Speaker 9 (29:46):
Yeah, so I think they just have some or so
you've been asking for that speed orceiver for twenty years now.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, I know, we just have to see it. No,
we have. We have not seen that guy, so sure,
sure would be cool. I'm talking like the if you're
worthy type. Oh yeah, you know, but you know that
seems like a forty four. That seems like a second
round wide receiver that can fly he's obviously there because

(30:14):
he's not the biggest or whatever it is. But I like,
I like a receiver there in the second round, somebody
with a lot of speed, a playmaker type guy. I
think you can get that player, uh there as well,
like a tank Dell. I feel like he was in
the second round. Somebody kind of liked that. Yeah, So
all right, Randy, good, good to hear from you. All right, Oh,

(30:37):
let's go Steve. He's in Saint Louis, Steve.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
Yes, sir, what's up, sir?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
How you doing?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
How's it going?

Speaker 13 (30:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Is this first call?

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Yes, sir, I'm a first time caller.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know what that we go? Here, we go? All right,
what do you got?

Speaker 8 (30:54):
I just have a couple of quick questions for you. Actually,
the Jonathan Mango signing to give up a fourth round pick,
do you think that was a bad decision on our part.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
We'll see, I mean, like I he hasn't done anything yet.
We will see. It doesn't look like the best move
in the world. But I'm not and like I said
at the time, I'm gonna I'm gonna let it kind
of play out. I'm not I'm not one. Don't please,
don't throw debo at me because you know the difference, right,

(31:26):
you guys know the difference, and why he's he gets
a fifth round and Meno got a fourth. It's all
about contracts now, It's all about how much you have
to pay, basically paying to get rid of a guy. Yeah,
we'll give you that so you can take you know,
we won't take a lot because you're taking a lot
in money. That's that's kind of what happens.

Speaker 8 (31:46):
Oh okay, Yeah, it's just that. I just think we
have so many holes to feel. I think we could
have been so much more with that pick. But I'm
not gonna be disrespectful of the guys.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Well, and that's fine. You know what, the next the
next like that get hits him on the in the
in the numbers will be the first of his career.
I don't know what it is about Mingo. Nobody wants
to throw the ball at his hands, at at his body.
He hits more passes and then this isn't just Trey Lance.

(32:14):
This was Cooper Rush and I'm sure it happened in
Carolina quite a bit. He whatever the reason he doesn't
get a clean ball, what he needs to do is
he needs to live at the dockyard this year. If
Dak is having players come out to his house to
throw the ball around, he needs to be there. He
needs to have his own code to the gate to
get in whenever he wants. He needs to be out

(32:35):
there because we have seen Tolbert being one, Cedric Wilson
being another. You out there and practically live with Dak,
You're going to be a better football player at the
end of the year. We've seen it happen. He needs
to be in that level. And if he does that
and doesn't pan out and he's not a good player,
then you know he wasn't a good pick. Fourth round
was not a good pick. But I think we got

(32:55):
to get We gotta give him time. That's my opinion
on Mingo.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
Yeah, I could take it. I agree with you and
a couple of quick more. A guy that I absolutely
loved was Travis Frederick's Do you think he's going to
be a Hall of Famer since he had to retire
early because of the illness?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Say that one more time?

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Which the center we had Travis Frederick? Yeah, I loved him, man,
and I just wondered, do you think he's going to
be a Hall of Famer. I know he had to
retire early because he had an aliens. Yeah, so because
of it, do you think he's still going to be
a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I wouldn't think so, I really wouldn't. Great player, didn't,
like you said, didn't last long enough. Those center position
is tough. I mean, I mean think of like this.
Do you think Andre Gerard is a Hall of Famer? No,
probably not, But I think they have the same amount

(33:47):
of Pro Bowls. I have to look that one up,
but I think it's about the same. And that's for
an offensive lineman, Pro Bowls and All pros. People laugh
at the Pro Bowl all the time. It's not to
be deal and who cares and all that. Yeah, wait
till they start getting into the Hall of Fame talk,
and then that for alignment, that's all they have. You
don't have a lot of stats. You've got were you

(34:09):
elite at your time when you played? And here's one
way to find out? Pro Bowl, All Pro and so, yes,
Travis Frederick was that person. I don't think he played
long enough. I just I don't even think he's ring
of honor.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
To be honest with you, this is what I was
wondering because he didn't played too long. But I just
thought he was a great player.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
He wasn't.

Speaker 8 (34:30):
This is a real quick thing to last. Do you
know if they're trying to do anything with Turp because
I hope they bring that back.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, great stuff, Steve, call back again, good good stuff.
Good to hear from you. I love to have first
time callers in there. Steve and Saint Louis holding it down.
Great questions. That last one on Turpin. They don't have
to make any moves on that one until free agency.
The first day of free agency, that's usually when they
put in those tenders. He'll get a second round tender,

(34:56):
is what I'm thinking is going to happen. There's three
type of restricted free agent tenders. One the last one
is they basically called just an original draft choice. He
wasn't drafted, so you would get no compensation. It's probably
around three million a year. That that's not happening because
somebody will will definitely, you know, pick him up and
sign him to a deal. The second round tender it's

(35:19):
worth about five million a year. What happens is let's
say the Titans, who's got John Fossil, signed him to
an offer sheet. Three years, twenty million almost you know,
six to seven million a year. Let's just say they
did that well and the Cowboys had that second round
tender on him, they could match it. They have the
option to match that deal, or they can let him go.

(35:40):
If they let him go, then they'll get a second
round pick and return. The Titans is an interesting one
because they have the first pick in the second round.
I doubt that's happened. In fact, it's never happened in
the NFL. No team has ever lost a second rounder
to a restricted offer sheet. So they also have a
first round option. That's about I think a year, maybe eight,

(36:01):
And uh, I don't think the Cowboys are going to
do that. So what will probably happen is they'll probably
just do the tender. No one will sign him the
Cowboy he'll play on this year as a restricted free
agent for that guaranteed contract. Then actually it's not guaranteed,
to be honest, that is not a guaranteed contract, but
it's probably you know, he's probably gonna play on it,
and then then he'll be unrestricted after the year if

(36:24):
they don't get a deal done. Remember, you know, he's
he's interesting. I'm gonna take a break here. But before
I say that, he's interesting because he is in twenty
nine years old, but he hasn't played a ton of football,
you know, and he's you know, what position is he
what can he do? He's really dangerous as a returner.
You know. You got to figure out the right role
for him. He's still got a lot of years left

(36:45):
and he's still one of the fastest players in the NFL,
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All right, let's go over across the pond. We're going
back to the line here. Mike in Birmingham, England. Mike, Hello,
Nick Hallalo.

Speaker 16 (38:49):
Nick, it's been a little whild in. These Wednesdays aren't
suiting me, so I'm sorry. Friday's much better. That's all right.
Like I said, you can't please all the people all
the time. But no, I'm over here obviously it's Friday,
early evening and I've just finished for the weekend. I'm
just about to leave work and be selectively aggressive on
the motorway on the way home, and.

Speaker 17 (39:11):
So yeah, it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
You know what's funny about that? And people caught that
it was selectively aggressive. That's the term, you know. We
always have to have a theme right last year, everybody
knows what the theme was or even though it probably
wasn't all in yep. Now it's selectively aggressive. So we'll see,
we'll see. I like the way you see what it means.

(39:35):
I like how you worded that in there. Good stuff.

Speaker 16 (39:39):
So before we get on to the important stuff. I
was listening to one of them, I think it was
hanging with the boys a week or two ago, and
Chris was talking about a game of Fortnite that you
and he had had, and he said something about there
being nineteen kills and he'd done seventeen of them and
you've done too. I just wondered if you wanted your
right of reply.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Yeah, that wasn't accurate. Those numbers are not accurate. I
had four kills, now, Chris. Okay, Chris had nineteen. He
undersold himself. I think had we had twenty three nineteen
to four. Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, Chris is an
assassin out there. Okay, I'm just going to tell you
he's an assassin that. I don't feel bad about that one,

(40:23):
about that one about no, not at all. That's like
that's like TJ. Bass saying I'm not as good as
Zach Martin. Okay, that's that's fine. That's exactly what I
feel like there, all right.

Speaker 16 (40:35):
Yeah, speaking of that, I really enjoyed the press conference
on Wednesday. I thought that was that was really nicely done.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
And very fitting for a great player.

Speaker 16 (40:48):
So obviously we've freed up cap space and there's a
lot of talk about that, and quite a lot of
people on social media, as they do, kind of getting
quite carried away with that and what we're going to do.
I mean, it's coincided with all the you know, the
news of all the players that teams are releasing or

(41:09):
you know, seeking to let go on a trade, and
you know, there's a chap in the question that is
being talked about. And I just think we've learned by now,
especially from last year and all in expectation management is.

Speaker 17 (41:33):
Really key here. You know, we know what we were
last year. It wasn't a good year.

Speaker 16 (41:38):
For us to be a contender in twenty five. So
many things have got to fall into place. We've got
to have the draft of the century. We need our
guys to stay healthy. We'll need one or two trades
or free agents that really come in and basically it's

(41:58):
almost certainly not going to happen. But what we can
expect and what we should expect and demand is some progress.
And if that turns last year's seven and ten into
a nine and eight or a ten and seven, then
we're in contention for playoffs. I think it's very, very
unlikely that we're in contention for the big one this year,

(42:18):
and I think for my sanity, I need to kind
of accept that. And even though I'm hearing about this
fifty seven million, you know, that's great, we can do
some stuff with that, but we're looking two three years
down the line. Just wondered what your take on that is,
what you think the cap space that we're creating is

(42:39):
four and you know whether you disagree and actually this
this can be the year And I'll leave you with that.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, sounds great, Thank you, Mike. Appreciate you appreciate the call.
For sure. Yeah, I don't believe that any team unless
you're just at the very very bottom and then you're
going to play with a rookie quarterback and all that stuff.
It's going to be a challenge for some of those teams.
But I think if you're in that, in that group

(43:07):
of you know, seven to ten, eight, nine, nine and eight,
you're in that same group. They're all about the same,
And yeah, I think you can. You can turn things around,
especially when you look at what what caused a lot
of you know, what caused some of the problems here.
You know, let's look at the issues of the seven

(43:28):
and ten. You know, injuries is part of it. It's
not all of it, it's part of it. And they
happen every year. They don't happen like that every year
to the key key players. Then they had sixty something.
There's like sixty one combined Pro Bowls of players that
have made you know, four Pro Bowls here, nine Pro

(43:50):
Bowls here, six here three they like, you know, that's that.
That's the guys sixty one combined Pro Bowls that were
missing in games last year. You know, all of their
starters from from week one, all of their key starters
missed at least a game or two. So you know,
they had fourteen players that entered this season that had

(44:12):
made a Pro Bowl. Fourteen guys. Eleven of those guys
missed at least two games. That's that's just key players
that were out at key moments. You hope that it
just it's just not going to be like that every year.
So that's part of it. They had some issues with
with you know, offense and defense at times, play calling,
you know, defensive scheme. So they're fixing a lot of this,

(44:35):
or at least that's the plan is to fix all that.
So you know, they're making some changes, and you do that,
You make a few tweaks here and there, you do
some things that will extend drives. You stend two drives
a game that might be ten points. How many games
did they lose less than that? So I don't think
it takes a lot to make some of those changes.

(44:55):
To go back to you, and then also your question
about you know, cap space and all that, you have
to remember that when you see that about how much
cap space they have, and you'll see graphics that say
that they have this much in cap space and sixty
million or seventy million, go and find out how many

(45:15):
players are being accounted for. Because I know one of
those websites has them at seventy something million in cap
space and there's only forty one players counting on the roster.
It's kind of a problem. You know, teams don't win
with forty players on their roster you need. It's not
fifty three either, It's like sixty sixty five. That's how

(45:38):
many guys you need. That's how many guys you're going
to have. Don't forget you sign a player who's counting
three million a year and he gets hurt in training camp.
He's counting three million a year. Okay, nothing changes with that,
even though he goes to ir So guess what, you
put another guy in here. He counts almost a million.
So you have to account for some of those. I'm

(45:58):
not saying that they don't have money to go and
do some things. They can do some things. But but
I don't think it's as much as you as you think.
And but I still I still and I don't know
if that changes their philosophy, but it should be able
to do something that they should be able to do
some things, and I think they will. I think they're

(46:19):
going to be a little bit more aggressive than we've
seen in the past. They're going to sign more from
the outside, uh than they have in the past. And
and rightfully so, look at all the free agents they have.
Do you need to just build on your seven and
ten or do you want to get better from your
seven and ten, and I think you want to get better,
which means there might be better players outside the building

(46:39):
that were inside the building. You did it with your
coaching staff, right, I mean some of your coaches, Shottenheim
are being one of them moved up. But how many
other coaches did you retain? Three? Four? So if you're keeping,
if you if you're cleaning house with the coaches, then
why wouldn't you somewhat do the same with the players.
It's a little harder. I get it from a cap
stamp point, but if it's a free agent to a

(47:02):
free agent, I'm you know, think of Rico Daddles as
an example. You want to bring back Rico Daddle had good,
solid year one thousand yards, or you want to try
to get someone better if there is that guy out there.
So that's just an example, all right, any other We
have another question here, This is coming from the app
Kyle from Sarasota, Florida. Any chance of Dallas front loading

(47:24):
Micah's contract to offset the dead money in coming years
with other players? New, that's not how not how that works.
Got to remember that dead money from those players are
happening right now. Zach Martin d Law, Brandon Cooks. Those
those guys have contracts that are that are counting in

(47:46):
money that's hitting the cap right now, so you don't
and think of it. Mieh Micah Parsons is making He's
gonna have a He's got a fifth year option of
about twenty four million dollars. There's a lot of talk
on if they can get him to a deal. They'll
say they'll cut his his base salary base salary down,
but it's also his his cap charge will be down,

(48:09):
you know, in the range of thirteen to fourteen million,
something like that. So you know he's not getting a
deal in that range. He's going to get a deal
over thirty for sure. So if he's counting thirty million
per year and it's going to be more than that,
just to say a thirty million and he's only going
to count about thirteen, it's definitely not going to be
front loaded. This is going to be backloaded like most

(48:30):
contracts are. So no, they won't do it from that standpoint.
They have enough dead money that are going on cap
that are hitting the cap right now that they got
to take care of all. Right, let's go to Larry
in Kansas, Larry.

Speaker 18 (48:45):
Hey, how are you doing good?

Speaker 16 (48:47):
How are you doing great?

Speaker 18 (48:49):
First time calling?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I love it. I love the pause too, like laid out.
You're ready for it? All right?

Speaker 11 (48:58):
Right?

Speaker 18 (48:58):
Actually I am.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
You know, Harry, what's that?

Speaker 5 (49:00):
First off?

Speaker 18 (49:01):
I wanted to go with a little bit of the
did Jerry hate that's coming around? I just I just
thought that he's done mostly what he should have done
since last year. No team wants to tell you when
they're in a rebuild, certainly not a salesman like Jerry.
But I've never heard any team do it. And when

(49:21):
you when you move on from two starting offensive linemen
and replace them with two rookies, you're rebuilding. I don't
care what you call it.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, it's just what it is.

Speaker 18 (49:34):
And I think those were both the right moves. You
can't keep paying tiring that's just not going to work out.
You got to quit paying big money these older players
that you get less and less out of uh, and
then be honest. I always thought he was light, seemed
seemed to really hurt the running game most of the
time he was there. I think he's you know, good
good luck to him in Washington. Hat off to him.
Hope he does well. But not too much against Uscourt. Yeah,

(50:00):
so then when you do that, when you start a rebuilding. Now,
he got a lot of heat for not signing Derrick Henry,
but you don't go sign an older running back to
a big money contract when you're in a rebuild. You
save that money. And I think that they did mostly
what they were looking to do.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
Now.

Speaker 18 (50:18):
Their roster kind of matured the year before, got a
lot of players that you just didn't want to resign.
The only one you could really argue about would be Armstrong,
but I don't know that you could have paid him
with you know, they've kind of got some young guys
coming in.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
There to replace d Law.

Speaker 18 (50:32):
And here once again, don't wanna, don't don't want to
pay big money out to d Law. Loved him, loved him,
loved him, but it's time. I got young guys coming
in there and let's just move on. I just think
that they're in a pretty good position from where they're
at now. You're only really down to a few positions here.
I think you go get you a Kendrick's like older

(50:55):
running linebacker in the free agency, bring you in Lewis,
and you're not down to fill in too many holes
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Now, Larry, don't start bringing common sense into the show here, Okay.
I mean like, I mean, you're right, you make you
make a lot of great points about the offensive line
and the rebuilding and all that. And when you think
about it too, the guys now that it's been a
full year, the guys that they lost, I mean, Tyron
being one of them, nobody ever comes back on that

(51:24):
and say, well they should have got Tyron, you know,
which that was a big, big thing. There's really not
a lot of those players that you looked at and said,
you know, now, coaches maybe that maybe they shouldn't let
dan Quinn go, But but from a player's standpoint, no,
I mean, you're right. I think they did make the
right moves there.

Speaker 18 (51:43):
Well, and even dan Quinn, I mean, I'm sorry, but
I remember when Overshown got hurt in the preseason there
and we had two real linebackers on the roster, and
I'm like, well, that's that you shouldn't have gone in
the season with three. You gotta go get somebody. And
I'll never forget dan Quinn said, he said, we don't
need to go get a linebacker because in my defense,

(52:05):
the safeties do the same thing. They cover the curl
and the and I'm like, whoa, wait a minute, what
about the run game? And while we're on that, I mean,
it's what the Packers do. Okay, they get you in,
they run the ball down your throat and when you crash,
the safety they got you because they're it's not really
play action for them, because it's not a call. Love reads,

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the safety crashes, he goes over the top. And that's
the way the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Started that game.

Speaker 18 (52:34):
Yeah, they had no chance to stop that team. I
think if they were still playing, Green Bay still wouldn't
have been stopped from scoring a touchdown. And injuries just
killed that team. And people don't want to say.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
What it is.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
You can't.

Speaker 18 (52:47):
You can't. You can't stop a running team that's going
to play action. You with one linebacker and a safety,
you can't. Yeah, nobody, nobody put that where that belonged.
But dan Quinn should have been the ones going, oh, well, yeah,
we got to have a linebacker now. Well they didn't,
and then Van der Ash got hurt and they ended
up with one.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
That was that.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, so no, so
I think they're.

Speaker 18 (53:11):
In great shape. Go get your good wide receiver, get
you another defensive tackle, running back obviously resigned Daudell and Lewis,
and man, you're almost ready to go.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
All right, all right, Larry, appreciate good stuff. Two calls
in a row, one from Birmingham, England, you know, just
wondering how far away they are. Expectations really aren't that
high for this year. It's going to be tough to
turn things around. Another guy from Kansas, Hey, couple of

(53:42):
pieces here and there, which I lean a little bit
more to that way, because I do think, you know,
if you're in them seven to ten range, you know,
like they were, they're seven to ten and played half
the season with the backup quarterback. Yeah, I think I
think they have a shot to turn things around. But
let's I'm not going to forget the fact that they weren't.

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They were struggling before that got hurt too, So it
wasn't like, you know, that just ended the season and
it went from there. There There was problems. There are
problems that the Saints game. You can't you can't deny
the Saints game. They were healthy and they played what
turned out to be a bad football team, and the
Saints just looked unstoppable. They were unstoppable. The Cowboys couldn't

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Speaker 17 (56:27):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Are you?

Speaker 17 (56:30):
I'm all right. That's a good read, man. It sounded
good my childhood when I saw those commercial Sunday.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Sundays, right, Gregg, Yeah, that wrestling, you know, it sounds
like it sounds like you're doing a call for wrestling.

Speaker 17 (56:45):
It's the same guy doing all the voice over.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah, it's probably the same fans too, I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 (56:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Probably.

Speaker 17 (56:50):
Anyways, expanding on the whole thing about the cap, just
a real quick point. I did some math on the
guys that are losing, like the deputie, So they're losing.
It's about thirty five million dollars worth of just depth guys.
And that doesn't account for like Brandon Cooks and Zach
Martin and those guys. So figure thirty to thirty five

(57:11):
million dollars probably in just depth replacements they're going to
have to pay for on one year contracts year contract
forever might be. So I'm looking for them to sign
a bunch of guys because they got to sign guys.
I mean, they don't have the body, so they're going
to have to sign players. Yeah, but I think we're
going to be looking at guys in the three million
or less range, and then maybe if we get aggressive,

(57:31):
we look at DT and some linebackers, maybe in that
eight million dollar range. But that's kind of what I'm
looking for, maybe not first wave of pre agency, but
maybe second and third.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be different. There's no
way around it. Like they they will have to sign
players and they're gonna sign. This isn't one of those
twelve and five years where we love all our guys
and you just bring them back and all that. I
will say this, and I hope and you're you're one
of the smartest callers that we have here. There's no
doubt about it. And I'm not necessarily talking to you,

(58:01):
but I do think there's a lot there's a perception
out there that like OsO Digie Zoo is not a
free is not a guy that they signed in free agency,
when in reality, to me, he definitely is like he's
he's a free agent type player. They they said, no,
we're not letting you get there. You're with us, we
drafted you, we've developed you, you're here. But that is

(58:24):
definitely a free agent move that they've made. It's not
like you know, oh, here comes free agency. Look at
the Cowboys once again not doing anything. They've done something already.
There's no doubt about it. They have done something already,
and they got a guy and made sure he didn't
go to another team. That that is a big move.
I hope fans can realize that, you know.

Speaker 17 (58:44):
But no, that's a good point because it does always
flip our minds. He's already here, so kind of but
that's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah, oh it definitely. It counts a lot, actually twenty
million years.

Speaker 17 (58:55):
But discount too good deal.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
It shockingly it is. And you don't what's funny, but
and I know you have a question here, but I
think this is kind of fun. We have over by
my office, we have two screens that are up one's
NFL network on ESPN or whatever, and the ESPN said
the Cowboys have reached the deal with you know Osa
for you know, four year, eighty twenty million year. And
you look over the next screen and it said the
Eagles have signed Saquon Barkley to an extension of twenty

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one million a year. And you're thinking, here's Osa, who's
you know, sold good solid player, maybe on the verge
of being a pro bowler, And here's a guy jumping
backwards over people and should have probably won MVP in
my in my opinion, you know. And that's the difference
between a running back and a defensive tackle. And the
money that you know, Barkley is about the same as Osa.

(59:41):
You know, and yeah, that's and that's the market. That's
not that's not one GM versus the other. That's what
the market tells you.

Speaker 17 (59:48):
Sorry got paid because he's a pass rusher.

Speaker 12 (59:51):
He's not.

Speaker 17 (59:51):
I mean that's it's a segue in an next point.

Speaker 10 (59:53):
So it's perfect.

Speaker 17 (59:54):
You know, OSA, he needs a really good one technique
next time. He's never really had one.

Speaker 18 (59:58):
Yeah, and I'm.

Speaker 17 (59:59):
Looking at PFS because I'm not like a big x's
and those guys like I don't know what I'm looking
at in film for defensive tackles. So I go by
PFF and their their grades a lot as a base
and they've never ranked him higher than thirty six against
the run with you know any DT's one TI's three
t's across the NFL. And so I think that'll improve
if he gets a nice one technique next And just

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like every other position, you get a guy next to
you that does his job really good, well, it only enhances.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
What you do.

Speaker 17 (01:00:25):
So you know, I'm not super excited about the OSA
sounding even though it is a really good deal. I'll
be way more excited about it once they sign a
nice one technique And you can get one technique for
cheatment because they don't rush the faster, so they're not
like super coveted dudes that like break the bank. You know,
you're talking six to eight million for like a really
good one technique against the run. Who's you know in

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the top fifteen to twenty ranked defensive tackles in that regard.
So whether that's in the draft now, I think they
should still draft a guy to draft and develop, but
I think they also need to bring you know, a
guy in and and once we do that, man, I'll
be way more pumped about this defensive mind forward as specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Yeap hundred percent agree. Dealn't have anything else, no good stuff, man,
Good to hear from you. Yeah, I'm I mean, there's
not going to be many positions that I would be
disappointed with in the first round with the Cowboys ticket twelve. Now,
free agency is going to change some things, but but

(01:01:24):
not really, you know, because it's just a different type
of player. You know, you want to put some guys in.
This guy will help you now and all that, But
if you feel like this player is the best player
then and we're talking about a five year investment, it
doesn't really matter nobody that you No one's gonna say, well,
you already picked up this guy in free agency, why
would you draft him if that's the guy, that's the guy.

(01:01:48):
And so other than quarterback and and tight end, those
are really the only two positions that I see that
you that you wouldn't make a case for. You know,
I don't love the wide receiver spot there at twelve,
but you know I didn't love it at seventeen either.
In twenty twenty, but I mean, Ceedee Lamb, the light

(01:02:13):
was just flashing. I mean, here he is, he's dropping,
he's dropping. And I remember that year because it was
twenty twenty. We were doing the draft show. We were
doing it. We were doing like a live show of
you know, remote. Everybody was remote, and it was the
one that Jamie Fox was doing with DeMarcus Ware and

(01:02:35):
they had different guests coming in and it was my
turn to be on right when the cowboys were picking.
And I remember Jamie Fox, of all people, asking me,
what do you think here? You still like this defensive
guy Chase on you know it's about to be And
I said, well, Jamie, you know here I am. Well, Jamie,
you know, I don't know Ceedee Lamb. Shir does look

(01:02:57):
pretty good. I mean, yeah, I understand the defense of stuff,
but I don't know how you can pass this guy.
He was like, okay, well that's that's a good thought.
And then they draft him again. I'm I'm sitting in
my house because it's twenty twenty. I don't know anything,
and they draft STEEDE. Lambs. So Jamie Fox, like you
called it, you called it. So that's one of my
claim to fames right there is just just have a
nice little chat there on the draft with Jamie Fox.

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You know, happens all the time. De wear Jamie Fox.
It's kind of what we do. Uh. Rick and Webster, Massachusetts.
What's up? Rick?

Speaker 10 (01:03:28):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Nick? How you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
I'm all right, it's been it's been a while, like
a week and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Sure, I mean yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, it's
not every day. Certainly miss missed the every day back
and forth. But uh, you know, giving everybody a little
bit of a break, get us, get us rolling there,
we'll be we'll be back to business again here before
you know it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Yeah, but Mike, it's he think, uh was As far
as free agency goes, I think, well, you know, dabbling
in at it, But the four fridges that I'm kind
of looking for were like Tyler Lockett as wide receiver,
Nick Bolton as a linebacker, Lil Hernandez as an offensive tackle,

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and Ford is a defensive tackle.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I like what you're thinking, Rick, I like it. Now,
Will Hernandez he's with he was with the Cardinals, right, correct? Okay,
so he's got the ties to Clayton Adams. Uh does
any of those other players have ties like that? Lockett, Schottenheimer?
Is that? Okay? Were there other ties to those players?

(01:04:39):
Is that why you just blindly threw those guys out there?
Or do they all have some kind of connections?

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
No, they don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
The other ones don't have Canucks to Dino, but we've
heard a lot of their names mentioned for Brian Broadest
and everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Sure, Puma Ford I think would be a perfect implement
type player to Osa of what Dylan was just talking about.
Just that one technique, hard to move, that's what they need.
I mean, they definitely need a guy like that. I'm
not sure that's gonna that really should be Mazzi's position.

(01:05:14):
I think Mazzi and Osa should be the three techniques.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
But break the bank, those players.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
So yeah, no, I I like it. I like those
four that you're talking about. Those those could be some
really good will Hernandez I think would be a really
good pick. I mean, he's got some nastiness to him,
especially if he comes in knowing kind of what they're
trying to do up front. He was a guy that
they really liked back in the day. And it's been

(01:05:41):
a while, but they liked him. I can't remember what
draft it was, but I know because Brondus was here,
Bronnas would not stop talking about him.

Speaker 9 (01:05:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
And he's had a good, good, solid career. He might
be a good type of plug and play type guard
that you would need. There.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
That's it, so good week next week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
All right, sounds good. Good to hear from you. Let's
keep it going here, making sure I don't have any
more questions from the chat. You guys, if you're listening,
remember this is if you joined us kind of late.
This is the first time we're adding a new feature
in our in our chat to the app. You can
watch the show on the app, you can chat with
each other, you could send some questions in. We've had

(01:06:22):
a few already come in. There is something we're trying.
This is a new feature we're doing, starting it with
this show, should be doing it to other shows as
we as we get a little bit down the road
a little bit, but wanted to see kind of how
it's going so far. So hopefully you guys can can
be part of that and ask some more questions. And

(01:06:43):
if you do, ask some questions on here, put your
name on here. We can read it just like we
do some of the calls and some of the text lines.
All right, Chris and Saratoga Springs, New York. Chris, what's up?

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
Hey, Macky Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Hey, appreciate it. Happy Friday to you.

Speaker 9 (01:06:57):
How are you not bad?

Speaker 10 (01:06:59):
I'm going on Friday, that's for sure. I'm ready for
a free agency to start, ready for the draft, getting
pumped up for that. You just said a minute ago
that we're all set at quarterback in tight end. But
what happens if that tight end from Penn State slips
and is there at twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Is that? Is that? Is that a slip? I mean,
I again, I say it all the time. I watch
all these mock drafts come through, and I just saw
one that said ashtroon genty at twenty two to Pittsburgh.
So I'm a little surprised by that. But is Warren
is his name, right? I don't remember his first name,
Tyler Warren from Penn State?

Speaker 19 (01:07:34):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Is he a guy that's before twelve? I mean I
would I get to Yeah, you think you will, Okay,
I I haven't looked at it that closely. I know
he's in that range, man, I don't think so. I
that's a tough one like like that would have to
go to how he's rated. Because the reason why I

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say it's a tough one for me is if you
have a dynamic tight end changes everything. It really does.
If you have a guy like Kelsey's been for Kansas
City who can play inside, can play outside, he messes
up your entire defensive alignment. That makes these other receivers
so valuable because of he is a mismatched nightmare. And

(01:08:19):
if you have that at tight end, you're you're different.
And so if he's that guy, then you're right. Maybe.
So what do you see, Adam? You follow him his
career a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:08:30):
More, I have he is. They compare him to George Kittle,
and obviously George Kill's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, cover, yeah, telling me. I've covered the Cowboys forty
nine ers games.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I mean, yeah, he.

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
Compare them with Ferguson. I don't know what the defenses
would do. I think would open it up for our
wide receivers because they have both of those guys on
the field at the same time. And he's played This
guy played running back, he played quarterback, he played wide receiver.
He lines up a wide receiver, he lines up everywhere,
and they've they said he's literally a nightmare mapped up

(01:09:07):
for teams. I think, I don't know. I'm hoping he's
not there as well, because I don't know what what
they would do if he is there. But I think
he's he would be a He's going to be a
heck of a parole, to be honest one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I'm watching the last day draft real quick, though, Chris.
I've watched in the draft, uh mock draft here that's
going going by here. I don't I haven't seen his
name at twenty yet. And I see another tight end
that just went Loveland. But I haven't seen unless I
missed the first five picks.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Anyways, I maybe I did. Maybe is he a top
five pick?

Speaker 10 (01:09:45):
He's in the they I've seen him in the top
ten in multiple ones.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Because I just I just saw it, and and and
Jens went at six and Shador Sanders went seven. He's
kind of falling a little bit. Maybe I missed the
first five and he went there. And I can't even
read who Eric edlum from?

Speaker 19 (01:10:02):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I think from NFL dot com. But you know, it's
a funny. Nobody knows right now, like nobody nobody knows.
I just saw two mock drafts in a row. One's
got Gent going twenty two. One's got him going six.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Eric at home his first mock draft. Who knows if
he's if he's that guy? Uh, maybe you know, I'm
I wouldn't be opposed to it, you know, I mean,
this is it's it's it's crazy to me. Here comes
another mock draft coming through, and it's Travis Hunter is fifth.

(01:10:36):
If Travis Hunter hasn't been picked in the top four
picks and he's sitting there at five. If I'm Jerry Jones,
I'm getting on the getting on the phone. What does
it take. I think he's a generational There's no way,
there's there's I'm sorry, there's no way he's he's gonna
go he's not gonna go one or two. I just

(01:10:57):
saw and this other mock Tyler Warren fourteenth to the
cold I see that a lot. Actually, Warren to the Colts.
They must need a tight end. Sorry, I'm all over
the map here, Chris. I know you got another question.
Go for it now.

Speaker 10 (01:11:09):
I had one more. What is your thoughts on linebacker
from Sam fran green Law coming signing to him coming
back with that Sam Frank coach we snagged from them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I'm a fan of his Dre Greenlaw just because you know,
I'm an Arkansas guy, and he was a better pro
than he was as a college player. And he was
a good college player, but he's been even a better pro,
which kind of pisses you off a little bit. When
you're an Arkansas fan. You're like really, like, you know,
you got a Pro Bowl player, but he wasn't an

(01:11:43):
All conference player. And again, sec is it's hard to beat.
Sometimes it'd be all conference. But he's been a really,
really good player, There's no doubt about it. Achilles injuries
are tough, you know, think about it and think about
how he had that injury. What it at the Super
Bowl like walking onto the field scary? Stuff. It happens,

(01:12:04):
freaky type play. But if he's back and at a level, yeah,
I I could definitely see that. I think he's even
from the area, so only that might he might have
some interest there. But it's about value, and you're gonna
get value on a player that's coming off an injury
like that, and you know, is he is he back?
Is he gonna? Is he gonna be a comeback type player?

(01:12:25):
That's that's what it comes down to. That's how you
steal value. And Jerry's all about it. So why he
does second round picks that are coming off to some
kind of injuries or some kind of issue. He's always
tried to do it and and that would be the
case with free agency too. All right, Chris, thanks for
the call. Uh, let's go to Armando. He's in Mexico City. Armando, good,

(01:12:52):
how are you doing?

Speaker 20 (01:12:54):
Glad to find you because he's getting over once a
week and then moving.

Speaker 9 (01:12:58):
Day start all right, moving target.

Speaker 17 (01:13:01):
But what you found is yeah, yeah, I have to
ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
A question, r mind. I'm asked you a questions. Among
your friends and family, do they consider you like the
funny guy?

Speaker 11 (01:13:15):
Ah?

Speaker 20 (01:13:15):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:13:16):
I guess because because you're hilarious to me, Like, I
don't know if you even trying to be funny, but
you every time you talk it, whether it be your
girlfriend that you from what forty nine ers fan that
you're gonna put in the portal or something like that,
Like you're you're hilarious to me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I just wonder do your your friends and family thank
your is funny? I think you're pretty funny.

Speaker 20 (01:13:36):
Well, thanks, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 17 (01:13:39):
But that's kind of natural, so.

Speaker 20 (01:13:41):
Not something that I actually work on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
So then that's that's why it's funny. Then that's why
it's funny. If you're not even trying, you're just like
that's good. All right, Sorry, go ahead, man, No.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
That's finely.

Speaker 10 (01:13:53):
Thanks.

Speaker 20 (01:13:54):
Well, just wondering now that I so far. I like
what they've done on free agency with their own veegens.
I like the signing of Osa. Do think that changes
the way they're gonna draft? I mean, thinking of a
defensive line on the first two or three rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I don't think it should change their their thought. I
said that a few minutes ago. I just if you've
got another defensive tackle that can that can be you know,
that's rated high go for it. I mean, he would
be five years behind Osa. So get another guy in there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I know Washington, they had Alan and Payne for years,
like it was. It was tough. Now they didn't have
a lot of help on the other side, but I
mean they kept them in games when they weren't as
talented because you just couldn't run the ball in there.
So if you've got another guy, now, the only thing
about that is you've got Mazie and you've got now Osa.

(01:14:58):
They both seem to be three tech naque type guys.
So I would need another defensive tackle that's pretty big,
maybe a one technique And I don't know if you're
going to see that in the first couple of rounds. Maybe,
but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it, but I
think it probably need to be a different size. I'd

(01:15:18):
rather have a defensive end and there. I still think
that they need a little bit more pass rush help.

Speaker 20 (01:15:25):
Yeah, especially with the Marcus Lawrence situation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, I just see a news alert that I just
mentioned Jonathan Allen. Looks like the Commanders are releasing him.
You know, he's had some injuries, but hey, I mean
those that'd be I'm telling you it's about to get
really fun around here. It really is. I have a
feeling this year is going to be one of the

(01:15:48):
better years that we've seen in a while. From from
the Cowboys free agency, I just I just think the
vibes are good. The vibes have never been better. From
the coaching staff, everyone's loving it. And I even think
Jerry and Steven are gonna they're gonna get You know,
when you when you give somebody, you know, a new

(01:16:10):
position here, you want to look right, you want to say, oh,
this was Look, this is the right move. You're gonna
do everything you can to kind of help him. And
so I think they're gonna give him a little bit
more resources than maybe we've seen in the past. And uh,
I think, and this is the year to do it.
When you're coming off a year you missed the playoffs,
I mean, try to turn things around.

Speaker 9 (01:16:31):
Well we'll see, all right, all right, well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
You too, all right see later, Armando, good stuff. All right,
Well it's been a it's been a fun show. Appreciate
you guys calling it. We do have another call it
on there. I don't see it, so just give it
to me blind. Just this play around. There'll see if
I know who it is. Maybe it's the first time.
All right, let's just see welcome to the show. What's up.

Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
I think you're going to know who this is and
definitely not a first time caller.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
That's how you in the show. I like it. All right,
let's go out with a bang, Robin Vegas. What's up?
I'm glad you made it in. I don't see it
on the That's all right.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
Listen, you're hearing the fans. You know, you hear guys
don't have you know much hope, and then you hear guys,
I like what they're doing so far. Signing Osa, he
got paid good money for a good player, good money
in NFL terms. Yeah, you know so, I thought that
was actually a good move. I'm not going to give

(01:17:38):
them credit if they sign Micah. Tell me an owner
that wanted to sign him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
So well, what if they get I mean, honestly, what
would you give him credit for signing him right now
and try to, you know, create a little space and
keep keep some money out there so they can go
get some other free agents? Would you give them credit
for that? If they do that, they haven't done it.
If they do.

Speaker 6 (01:18:01):
No, no, no, I listen. We keep talking about this team,
and I keep hearing people say, rebuild a team with
a top ten quarterback, top two receiver and Micah Parsons
teams like that, don't rebuild.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I don't. I don't think. I don't agree with that.
I don't know who's saying that, but I don't agree
with that either. This is not a rebuild.

Speaker 6 (01:18:25):
Well, I keep hearing the last the other caller said, well,
this is a rebuild. No, you and and what you
want to prove something to me and the fan. You
just restructured dak Now why would you do that? Because
that's a bad move technically if you're not going to
go for it in the next two to three year

(01:18:47):
window that you're going to have. So I agree with
the call. Go get a green law. Draft Wise, you
need a you need a running back, You need a receive.
A guy like Keenan Allen's out there that would be
a good wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Don't you know I don't hate That'll be Wise?

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
You got you got Turpid. I know you don't like Turpid.
But when I think no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no,
I know I know you don't like him. As the
deep threat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Yeah, as just the deep threat. I think he can
be a gadget guy. He can really be a mismatch guy.
But I want more of a traditional receiver as a
deep threat too. Don't don't get me wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
I think I think he'd be great in the slot
like Cole Beasley was, just faster. Yeah, And I think
you gotta if you get a Keenan Allen, a big
wide receiver who is consistently good. You know, Devata Adams
sounds good than I. Then I paying him. Then I
you know, I don't want to. I don't need another

(01:19:48):
twenty five million dollar guy. You know. But like I said, Jerry,
let's you know now, he's he's you know, I don't
know why he does it. I know he's older. My
father just turned to yesterday. I get it. You say, So,
why would you just be quiet? Why you're talking? And
I don't see you filling any spots at free agencies.

(01:20:10):
You have to because if you don't, you can't compete.

Speaker 10 (01:20:14):
Just be quiet.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Enjoy the osis success. It's one of the few moves
that I think every fan was like, Hey, that was
a pretty good movie you made.

Speaker 8 (01:20:21):
Enjoy you know, but.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
You're gonna have to bring in some some really good
players because you know Philadelphia is that's the problem. You know,
make make some moves and read not at your restructure, Dak.
You're gonna you're gonna live with him now for four
years at least. Let's let's go for it. Let's let's
build but not that far behind if we if we

(01:20:46):
get some good pieces and and and do some good
things in the draft, but you gotta spend some money.
I'm sorry, you just have to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Okay, appreciate the call. Thanks Rob as All's a great
way to end the show. I'm gonna I'm gonna say
one thing. Sometimes you have to kind of decipher a
little bit with what Jerry's saying. I I think really
what he said in this case was he doesn't think

(01:21:17):
that you're filling the void that you have. If you
have a void, that you fill it with free agency.
They like, we don't have a corner. We gotta fill
it there. I think the voids are the backup spots.
Now they they're gonna they're gonna get some And I

(01:21:37):
say that really more from like a cornerback standpoint. They're
gonna sign some players that are gonna be starters on
this team. So if that happens, you guys might call
that a void. Hey we need another linebacker. They signed
this guy. He's probably gonna start Eric Kendricks. They didn't
really have a linebacker. They signed him in that kind
of field, a void that they have. They're going to

(01:21:59):
do that. I don't I don't. I don't think it
matters what Jerry said there, because they are going to
do that. And I think in y'all's minds that that
is a void. If you need something and he's gonna
come in here and help start and they signed him,
that's filling a void. I think Jerry's talking more about
about like avoid means I don't have a problem anymore.

(01:22:23):
They're not gonna sign guys like that because that's very
rare in free agency that you bring a player in
in free agency and now you don't have the issue anymore.
I mean, I guess Philly thought that way, you know,
when they when they drafted or when they when they
they brought in Zach Sakwon Barkley, Like okay, now now
we're good there. But that's rare. I mean, you're gonna

(01:22:46):
go sign a free agent player and that doesn't mean
you wouldn't draft that same position, because these free agents
are going to be one year, two year. It's not
a five year investment really like it is in the draft.
So I I wouldn't worry too much about that. They
have to sign players in free agency, whether it be
their own or outside. They're gonna sign a lot more

(01:23:07):
from the outside than they have in the past, and
some of those guys are going to start and I
think in your mind that's going to be filling a void.
I think it might just be seeing it a little
bit different way. They're going to do that. They're going
to sign key players in free agency this year, probably
more than ever, and I think you're gonna be excited
about it. I don't know if that makes sense, but
that's my take on it. I wouldn't worry so much

(01:23:30):
about what Jerry is saying. I never worry about that.
I always go back to the four days before the
twenty sixteen draft when they told us that running back
is not the value anymore like it used to be.
You just don't draft them that high, and four days later,
Ezekiel Eliott was flying into Dallas. This is the time
of year where you don't have to show your hand
all the time. I think they're going to do more

(01:23:52):
than you think. All right, great show, guys, as always
got to get out of here on a Friday. We'll
be back to regular a schedule on Wednesday next week.
That's the first day of free agency. Plenty to talk
about then we'll talk about it then Wednesday on Cowboys Storyline.
So for Chris Bean and also I'm going to give
a shout out to the people working on the app

(01:24:12):
back there and getting some of those questions in. Josh
and Fask a great job as well. Appreciate the hard
work everyone has done. Have a great weekend. We'll see
you next week on Cowboy Storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
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