Cowboys StoryLine: Here We Go Again

Another contract negotiation means more drama. The callers weigh in on the latest between the Cowboys and Micah Parsons and where things stand with his next deal.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Wednesday, April
the second. I'm Nick Eatman. It's time to talk some
Cowboys football with you.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Want to hear from you? Aight a A eight five
five two two nine seven. This weekly show is still
not getting used to it. It feels like it's like,
when's the last time we did a show? Well, last Wednesday?
But uh, and not that so much has happened. But
we did have the NFL owners meetings in Florida this
past week and Jerry Steven, Brian Schodenheimer all talked a

(00:54):
little bit, got a little I don't know if there
was any news that came out of it. No big prizes,
and on Jerry had some talk, had some interesting things
to say about Micah Parsons. We can talk about that,
Michael Parsons and his agent and all that. Nothing's been
settled though from that, obviously no new contract there and
no big moves has happened. I don't think any move

(01:16):
has happened since then. I don't know if the Cowboys
have signed anyone or lost anyone. Maybe I'm missing something,
but uh nothing, nothing too memorable. But let's uh, let's
talk about a little bit. Sorry Chris dropping news here
for me. Let's let's go to the phone lines and
get it started. Here. Sebastian and Savannah Georgia's first. Sebastian,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Wait a minute, I'm first.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
I just told mister bean.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
On the back, I said, it must be my birthday?

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Is it? I got through?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Got no. I just threw it like a couple of
cars and that was in the stock market before I
caught in and actually hit a nice rate. But how
are you doing it?

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Damus?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Reatman? I'm good? How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I'm doing great today, doing great today. Happy to be
on the show. Shout out to the storyliners and everybody
who makes the team this year for the all storyline team.
I'm very excited for you. There were some great costs
this year, and there was some great participation from all
of the new people too. To the football sided things.
Since we're talking draft right now, you know what, I
get the feeling that we're gonna reverse what we did

(02:12):
in the Zeke t in the Zke draft, and we're
gonna go cornerback and then a offensive weapon. I don't
know for sure if we're gonna get the runner in
the second round, but the runner could actually stretch the
third round, so that second receiver being such a sneaky need,
they might go cornerback receiver.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
Yeah, in the first two rounds.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And then one thing is you're on THEE. Parsons contract.
And there's something that irks me about Michael Parson's contract
versus like other people's contracts. The whole he has to
is he a leader thing. I don't agree with that mistreatment.
And I'll tell you why are you the top five
player at your position? If so, you get the money.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
That's how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
If you're a great player, I don't care if you're
a leader. As long as you're not a cancer to
my locker room, I would pay you right. You pay
men Dak Prescott who aren't the top five players of
their position, but they're great leaders. You pay them the
big contracts for being a leader. I don't meet Michael
Parson to be a leader. I need you to go
get sacks. I need you to stuff the run, and
I need you to be one of the best players

(03:12):
at your position going forward, like JJ Watt and Barrett Garrett,
I said Barrett Moles Garrett is so I don't feel
like he has to be this this great leader. There
should be other people to stuff up and be leadership
on the team from the other side. If he doesn't,
if he doesn't become that, he doesn't become that. And
that's always urged me that people's like, is he a leader?
And should you give him a contract if he's not

(03:33):
a leader. If he's not going to show up one time,
he shows up in the game.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
That's how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Do you have a great day, sir?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
All right? Thank you you too. You know that that's
that's kind of a tricky one because you know, and
I'm not comparing him to taroll Owens, Okay, I'm just
saying I'm giving you an example of a great Hall
of Fame player who was not a leader. But yet

(04:00):
those type of guys you said, I don't need you
to do things, I need you to show up in
the game. Well, the problem is is that everybody in
the NFL thinks that they are a great player because
they were in high school and they pretty much were
in college and now they're in the NFL. So everyone
has pretty good confidence about themselves and what they can

(04:21):
do and think if they just get the opportunity, they're
going to go do it themselves. So my point is
is that if one guy doesn't practice a lot or
study a lot or whatever, but goes out to the
game and he can do it because that's how good
he is, that's not necessarily the way it works for
everybody else. But yet it's kind of hard to do

(04:44):
that and hard to say. It was always hard for
Tony Romo to tell Terrell Owens to you know, run
it again, you know fall start, do it again, pay attention,
don't fall asleep in meetings, things like that, because you
had a combative personality, you had some body that would
that would cause even more problems in the locker room.

(05:04):
And so yeah, he could get it done on Sunday
for the most part, but it wasn't doing all the
other things. And and is that good for Patrick Creighton?
Was that good for Sam Hurd? Was that good for
you know, the other receivers. I can't even think of
Jamaica rector some I'm just some random receiver. You know
from from that time that the young guy that looking

(05:24):
up to these players. And so if Micah Parsons isn't
getting it done in every way, is that hurting everybody else? Yeah,
he can get it done on Sunday and he does.
And I and I that's why it's I said, it's tricky.
I somewhat agree with you because you don't necessarily have
to be a leader. Larry Allen was the greatest guard
of all time. He wasn't a leader. I don't know

(05:47):
if Tyron Smith was a leader. I'm not I'm not
really sure. But you lead in different ways, and and
you do have followers even though you're not necessarily a leader.
You have some some followers and if they are, they
following the right thing. So, you know, I'm not sure
exactly what Jerry meant by that comment, but I'm with
you on if you can get the job done, you

(06:07):
deserve a big deal. But also there's some other things
about it that that you have to make sure he's
doing the right way, or that all of them are
doing the right way, because whether you're a leader or not,
people who do follow you, especially when you play to
that level. All right, let's go to Carolina. He's in Carolina.
I believe Carolina.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
Nope, I'm in talentis what's up?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You didn't I didn't get that information? All right?

Speaker 9 (06:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (06:35):
How you doing? Okay? I am I'm wonderful, man. I
want to kind of follow up a little bit on
what he was saying, not about the leader part, but
about the contract thing.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Right.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
Yeah, So I've been, you know, hearing a lot of
things on you know, the news, sports news, but you
know everything you hear is not true. So what have
you heard about the Jerry going to directly to Michael
Parsons trying to get to the deal then without the agent.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I think that's Jerry being Jerry. I mean I think
I think that that's that's the way it's always been
done for him, and and so you know a lot
of times that's and and and let's let's not act
like there's not been other players that appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (07:22):
A lot of players.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
He just said it the other day. Yeah, the agent's
there for the parameters and all that stuff. But but
you know, just sitting down saying, hey, let's let's get
this done. And that's from my understanding, that happened, and
that nearly they nearly got a deal done. But you
got to remember in life, everybody's got an agenda. Everybody

(07:47):
has their own agenda to do something that's not necessarily
a bad thing. It's just that's what's good for them.
And I guarantee the agent doesn't love that. The agent,
no agent probably loves that, but you know they would.
They're gonna love They're going to like the big payday
and and and they're gonna like they're gonna like what
what you know? It comes from them? But anyways, Uh,

(08:07):
what's your what's your point on that?

Speaker 8 (08:09):
My point is so now, Eric, you know, we heard
mikel say, oh, I want to get it that. I
want to get it done. So I just want to
know what is stopping him from getting it down. If
Xerian's coming to the table and offering you that type
of money and you're all gonna take the team's friendly deal,
you know, I want to help out with the other players.
I just don't understand that. If he's coming to you

(08:29):
with the money, why not just go ahead and take it,
Because now if he takes it, that frees up some
more cap space and then maybe we could go get
that that number two receiver that's probably left out there
for the free agency. So I'm just a little confused,
like why not just go ahead and get it done?
You know what I'm saying. You saying that you want
to make things better for the team, they're trying to
get you out the way. I mean, what's the hold

(08:51):
of I mean, of course you're not Microparsons, but I'm
just I was just I sat there and thought about it, like, well,
if he really wants to get it done, why not
just get it done? Like is there some things in
the contract that just probably didn't sit right with him,
or he just doesn't fully understand what's going on, so
he wants this other guy to look over it. I mean,
it's could be so many different things.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
There's a bunch and yeah, and and and a lot
of times it's just the things that we wouldn't think
are a big deal that are kind of the kind
of the hang up here. And it's like I said
about agenda. You know, this agent, it's important for him
to make you know, make the deal right and and not.
You know, they don't want to do a team friendly deal.
They want to do a fair deal that will be

(09:33):
a top five, top three. You know, pass rush or
defensive player or whatever. Set to market that way because
there's three or four other contracts there that are hoping
that that this agent doesn't mess it up. Don't mess
it up now, don't mess it up for me, because
I got to pay my guy in two years, and
I want to make sure that you pay. You get
Mike of the money that he gets, don't We don't
need no team friendly deal. Get the deal done right,

(09:55):
So in two years, one year or whatever, then then
I can go and say, see see what Micah got
boom and then boom.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
But that's what that wants to do that, So why
would you, you know, not let the man get what
he want to do?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
People people that people that smoke and drinks say they
want to stop smoking and drinking, but they don't, you know,
you know what I'm saying that you can say that
everybody says they want to go on a diet and
start working out, but that doesn't mean they all do that.
And so yeah, I want to get it done and
I want a team friendly deal. I don't think there's
anything friendly about this deal that that's going to happen.

(10:30):
What what what is friendly about this deal? I don't
believe that it really is. I don't think that it's
going to be unless it's some nine year, ten year deal,
and I don't see that happening. I think, just like
Dak did, I think they're going to get this deal
done so they can get another one, you know, and
and I don't. I don't think. Yeah. So I just

(10:53):
don't see a lot of this being that team friendly.
I mean, you can't have it both ways. You can't
say I want to be a two hundred million dollar
player and it be team friendly. It's just it's not
it's not going to be.

Speaker 8 (11:06):
Not practically, No, it's not practical.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But I'm not taking shots at anybody because I don't
know the situation. All I know is that they're trying
to get a couple of things accomplished, and those two
things aren't easy to do together. Is do something you
know for that helps the team and also do something
that sets the market in a different way, and it's
usually can't have one with the other, in my opinion, so.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
My last one. Right, So, say they do get this
still done with the next week or two, do you
see them going to acquire that shake and receiver spot
out there and with the bedroom presence in fregency because
I mean, if you do that, now you're up to
fifty million, you know, in cap space. Of course, you
got to put it away about fifteen from the draft

(11:51):
or whatever, but that still gives you, you know, twenty
twenty five, decide at least a two year deal with
a you know, out of say top receiver, but a
second receiver. Now you know who's out there, you know
what I mean? Do you see that happening if they
get this deal done before it's child for us to
go into the draft.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right, thanks, thanks for the call. I I don't
believe that the Cowboys have to do anything with Micah
Parsons to do what they want to do, you know,
I don't. I think they can go and sign who
they want to sign. I think they could make a
trade for whoever they want to trade for and absorb
that deal. And as I said last week, I still

(12:34):
think that's probably the route that's going to happen. I
don't if you look at the players out there and
free agency wide receiver, I don't think that those are
the ones that gets them excited. I think if they're
going to make a move, I think it'll have to
be with a trade and then to do that you
have to absorb a contract and depending on what it is.

(12:55):
But so I think I don't think they have to
do the Micah Parsons thing to get that done. They
don't have to do anything with Micah this year. So
when you ask the question, why is it not getting
done and all that, because I don't know if if
anybody is at this deadline where we have to this
has to happen, you know. So you know, the Cowboys

(13:18):
will franchise them, and I don't think Michael wants that,
but that's that's the card the Cowboys have as they can,
they can franchise them. So anyways, we'll see how it
plays out. It's not the first time we've seen Jerry
kind of take shots within the media during negotiations. It
happened with Zeke, It happened with Zach Martin of all people.

(13:42):
You know it happened. So when you when you start
asking Jerry questions about it and the deal's not done, you know.
It happened with CD Let's not forget that too, a
training camp. So it happens, and deals still kind of
get done. All right, let's go to Michael and Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
What's up? Has the hardest working Cowboys employee.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I haven't talked to him today.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
I'm talking to him now.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh okay, all right, all I'm doing good dog?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
All right?

Speaker 9 (14:11):
Oh okay, hey, all right. First of all, I believe, yeah, me,
I agree. I believe Matthew Golden is going to be
the number twelve pick for the cab Okay, they're gonna
he's going to be their number two wide receiver. But
I have a scenario and I want you to tell

(14:31):
me if it's in any way possible. All Right, I
really like Parsons, but we trade Parsons right before the
draft starts and are able to get h Man Minna's
names is Kapaney the wide receiver cornerback Colorado guy?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Wow? Travis Hunter?

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Yeah, I don't know why I can think of his name.
I guess he had nervous on tal Tea.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
But we treat.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
We trade Parsons for the pick to get him. But
the only way we can do it is we have
to be able to get a top ranking or high
ranking edge rusher to replace Parsons in the draft. So
we're gonna have to Kevin Kostner. Is it possible?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
You're talking about the movie Draft Day where you just
make this big trade and the trade ye come back.
I want my picks back because I feel like it. Yeah,
ever did the work?

Speaker 9 (15:32):
We get Travis Hunter and a not the highest edge rusher,
but a top tier edge rusher. And we get Travis Hunter,
which fills a wide receiver and a corner knee because
he can play both, and you get another edge rusher,
and then the whole drama with Parsons over. But I
do like Parsons. I'd read him statement. Is that possible?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
All right? So for that scenario, you're talking about trading
him for like the number two, pick, three pick whatever
or wherever you feel like you could get Travis Hunter.
So probably maybe number two. I don't know what else
you get. I really don't. I don't know if you
get another number one or if that's it. I don't know.

(16:22):
I mean, you always hear about two number ones, three
number ones, but for that pick in the draft, I'm
not sure. I'm not sure what that would be. That's
what's it's tough to that. Now you're trying to equate,
you know, the value of a player with those picks.
So if you were to do that, to go get

(16:42):
Travis Hunter and trade him, then at twelve, you're not
taking golden, you're taking an edge rusher, and so that's
that's who you're taking. And I don't know if that
might be too high or maybe that that pick, maybe
you move down a little bit sixteen seventeen eighteen if
you can and try to get a pass rusher, but
you're gonna have to get one. But you know, I don't,

(17:06):
I don't know. It's it's a it's a risky move
because you have a game changing player right now in
Michael Parsons, So you don't know what you'd have.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
I think he'd be getting a game. I think he'd
be getting Deon Sanders two point zero. And I just
don't think if it's possible to get that, I don't
think you can. You can turn it down. Yeah, well,
Jerry's got a man crush on on Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Well you know he should have one on Michah Parsons
because he's he's definitely proven and and I'm with you,
Travis Hunter is fun, fun player to watch. I don't
I don't know, I don't know if he's the one
I mean, I really, I really don't. I don't know
if anyone is d On. I don't know if he's

(17:57):
the shutdown corner back, because that's what you have to have.
You got to have a lockdown corner and and he
has to be the guy at corner, and then he
could also play some receiver. It'll be really it'll really
be really fun to see how what team gets him
and and how do they use him, because he's got

(18:19):
really good skills. I I think, and I've never said this,
but I'm sure other people have said this. I think
he's he's a He's not Dion so much because I
think he is a better wide receiver than Dion, and
I don't think he's as good a corner as Deon.
So whatever Dion was here and here, I think Travis

(18:40):
Hunter is here and here. Still still great, still great player.
But then again, you know, I think if Dion would
have been a full time wide receiver and that's all
he would have done, then yeah, he could have. He
could have been great, just like baseball, probably basketball, whatever
he wanted to do. All right, let's go to our
next caller, Chris. If we have one, let's throw on
my I don't even have it on the list with

(19:04):
Ali and Florida. Ali.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Good morning, sir, How are you pretty good? Buddy?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
How about you good? What's up?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
How's Jacob doing?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
He's good.

Speaker 10 (19:16):
I ordered a pizza for him. Couple questions pizza, pizza,
I know you love pizza.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Then he's doing great. Then have you got a pizza
for him? He's doing great?

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Couple quick opinion and the question. I used to manage
a big golf resort and I had an attorney on
the staff yearly paid. But I hate used to go
to him because every time you're bring the subject matter,
they take their time and they get between the deal,

(19:49):
and most of the time he's just a scow drop.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
So for us to say.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Jerry's doing something wrong with this deal, that his money,
it's very easy to add that we spend his money
the way we want.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
He does it.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
But Michael Parson, even if you remember Zach Martin's retirement speech,
very jokingly, he told Jerry that he used to go
talk to him. Then he getting Jerry the agent involved.
I think working playing for cowboys, as bad as we are,

(20:33):
sometimes you get a lot of benefits. Is nothing wrong
to shake hands, give a little, a little bit of
confirmation that allow everybody else to sign.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
So it's easy.

Speaker 10 (20:51):
For me to say, hey, Jerry, give them forty million,
But it's not that easy. So it's gonna hopefully work out.
But Michael is getting a lot of benefit playing for
Cowboys because otherwise he can't play for Carolina or some
other teams, so it won't get that exposure that he

(21:11):
could have.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Having said that, as.

Speaker 10 (21:14):
Far as the draft is concerned, I think Dak Prescott
had a two major injury and on the twelve pick,
I would you have somebody to help him because he

(21:35):
is one more injury that golf of that he gets,
then the team goes out. According to draft Boys, all
these offensive linemen that have something wrong with them, I
don't know when I listen to them that have any
sure number one first round draffick except maybe one or two.

(22:01):
So regardless, I will pick somebody on the left tackle,
or I will pick up a running back. Even right
now I'm looking at the Carolina they get fourteen hundred
points and Carlos Cowboys up twelve hundred. Maybe drop to
exchange some from next year and jump and get the

(22:27):
good best versus the good, go get gent and then
get your opinion on it. And it's nice to talking
to you, buddy.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Appreciate it all.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Right, thanks, Sally, appreciate that the first part you said
about Micah, like, you know, I know, you're right, there
are benefits of playing for the Cowboys and the exposure.
But then then it goes both ways too, you know.
I mean it's it's it's a lot more. It's more

(23:01):
of a target on your back. You know. I would
imagine if if Hendrickson in Cincinnati or Max Crosby or
whatever does a podcast, they don't get as scrutinized as
much as as as Micah Parsons does for being with
the Cowboys. So I think it goes both ways. And
I'm not like I'm seeing him on all kinds of
commercials and things like that, So I don't know. I mean,

(23:25):
there are there are benefits, there's no doubt about it.
But you take you take the good and the bad
together there. I mean, at the end of the day,
he's gonna he's gonna this deal is gonna get done,
and and I don't think we're gonna hear much about it.
And you know after that and and you know, these
little shots back and forth. I mean, it's just different
because you've got a very vocal player this time, you know,

(23:47):
doing it and making you know, tweets and and and comments,
and he's got a podcast, like I said, and all
that stuff, where you know, a lot of times before
you wouldn't necessarily hear from the player as much. That's
not the case. So I think that that's what's adding
to it a little bit. Again, when they want to
get this deal done, they'll they'll get it done. I mean,

(24:09):
when everybody's feelings, you know, stop being hurt, and everyone's
bellies get rubbed and all that, and we respect everybody
and everyone's feeling good about it, we'll get this deal done.
I'm sure that that that's what's going to happen. As
for the draft and trading and trading around and and
all that, you know, I've never been a huge fan
of trading up, but just because you know the draft

(24:34):
capital that that it that it takes to do that,
and you've already made those trades. You know, you've already
you've already lost a fourth round pick, and so you know,
I just I don't know. I think in this case,
with so many needs, i'd be okay with just staying paton,
just taking the guy that that that you need. I
think any offensive lineman that you take right here should

(24:56):
be good to go and ready to play and ready
to help you. If it's a wide receiver, then he
should be dynamic. If it's an edge rusher, hey, that
would be great. On the other side of Michael Parsons.
If it's a corner he should come right in and start.
So you know, any of these positions should be should
be good to go if you take him at twelve.
So that's why I just think it's still high enough
where you don't have to go and make trades. If

(25:17):
you don't have to, All right, just take a break
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Speaker 1 (26:58):
Bag the Cowboys. All right, welcome back to Cowboys storyline.
You can give us a call eight eight eight eight
five five two two nine seven. Have a couple of
colors already on the line, So let's get to it.
Davion and Illinois been waiting, Dave on. What's up man?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
What it do?

Speaker 6 (27:20):
What it do? My gang?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (27:24):
I'm good man. It's being a good submity right now.
Helping a friend now, but yeah, I wanted to have
hop on and.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Helping him do what move?

Speaker 6 (27:36):
No, okay, let's go find it real funny. It's a
truck broke down some trump. Yeah, I guess it's crazy,
crazy morning, but anyway.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's good friend.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Yeah, yeah, you look, I got a truck, so it's Uh,
it is really Listen to man, I see you see
that everybody talking about the talking about the Michael contract.
I was, uh, I was cracking up that Jared. Jared said,

(28:10):
been chilling at pretty much all all season. He said,
you know what, hold my beer, I got some I
got I got some spicy for you. I was like, yeah,
I'm talking about jer get at it go, yeah, get
it going, get it going. I enjoyed hearing him uh
talk as they shot it too.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Man.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
I just where every time shoty get to going. Man,
it's just it's so cool. But let me ask you this, Uh,
if you Micah though hearing all that from yesterday, how
would you if you was Michael, how would you really
truly feel?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Uh that. That's a tough one because he you know,
he's trying to he's trying to be in the middle
of this too, and and he's he's got to give
you respect to both sides of this. You know, I
don't understand the tweet honestly, but then again, I don't
understand most of his. But you know, he's like, there's

(29:05):
gonna be no back door stuff here and all this,
well he did he took the meeting. I mean like
like he was in the meeting, So it's not like
you know that that was part of it, and you
know it's owner to player. Those those are the two
most important parts of this. So I don't think I
think Jerry's doing what he's always kind of done and says, hey,

(29:28):
let's just let's sit down, let me hear from you
what you want, because a lot of times, you know
how it goes. You know how it goes when you're
dealing with like a boss and who's telling you that
what his boss wants, but you didn't necessarily hear that.
You're just saying, well, this is this is what they want,

(29:49):
this is what this is what's coming to me, you know,
So then you kind of have to deal with that.
It's just better to just get in the room, you know.
You know how it is when you're trying to buy
a car, or if you're trying to buy a new
truck or whatever, and you're always that guy's always going
to that back room and talking to someone and then
coming back. No, no, no, just put me in that
room and let's talk. And I think that's what Jerry
was trying to do. What's Michael like, he's done with

(30:10):
all players, and you know, to my understanding, they almost
had a deal done and then now now they don't.
So this is where we are.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Well kind of like what happened with probably Dak and
all the big It's just I really, I mean, I think,
what a question. I always kind of wanted to see
your thoughts on about it.

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Is.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
I was curious about it if you wanted, because I mean,
I know, I fans, I fan bases be on some
nonsense a lot about that. They always blame stuff on
the Jerry, on the Joneses, about why contracts taken forever,
and I just I really wish people understand it really
is not it is not always them. It's always some
other stuff going on. Yeah, And I think, and I think,

(30:54):
I just what are your thoughts on that? I really
think that it really never really now was owned to
be doing this stuff. You don't be wanting to get
a deal. Then they'd always Steven always be like, well
our door is open, come on, now we get a propblem,
But I don't know, it's pray. It's just I really
I really predicted this contract to be done quick and
now as it's like crap.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I mean, I mean, if if people could have blamed
COVID on Jerry. They would have I mean on anything.
I mean Jerry, Jerry gets the blame for anything, you know.
So we know that, we know that, and I'm sure
part of it, like this is not just on the player,
it is part of it. I mean, it's it's like,
if you want to sit down and get these meetings done, well,
why wasn't that meeting done earlier? I'm not giving them

(31:38):
a pass for that, but you're right, it is. It
does take two sites because the very first time that
they talk, you know, they have a deal in place,
and they say, hey, you know, let's get the deal done. Boom,
and then and then the agent and the player laugh
and they say, all right, well we're not really close,
you know. Then they give an offer, and then the

(31:59):
cowboys laugh and they say, all right, we'll call you back,
and then they shake their head on that, and then
they they got to get together. So but it does
take it does take a while. It should it take
this long? Probably not, probably not, because I think if
they get in the room and figure it out, they
could get it done. So I I appreciate you saying
that that it's not just it's Jerry and Stephen on this,

(32:22):
but it's part of it. They're they're a part of this.
And as Steven always says, you know and the Cowboys say,
deadlines make deals, and until you really make it a deadline,
they're not in that big a hurry, especially when they've
got that card of the franchise tag. So that's that's
what That's what it seemed like to me. And that's

(32:42):
exactly what I said when I heard that quote that
Jerry said and then Micah's response, I was like, w
t F for franchise, That's what that is. That what
the franchise is going on here, because that's what's happening,
all right.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
I guess I don't know. I don't know the show,
the second show for the storyline team, but if you
if you ever I listen to I listened back later.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh yeah, you're you know, you're a wild card there
because you came in kind of late. But but I
think I think we've got maybe a spot we're going
we're figuring it out, figuring it out, all right, Davi.
I appreciate the call talking about the all storyline team.
And remember this thing starts like in April of last year,

(33:29):
like April to March, and so there's there's people that
made a lot of calls. I've said this before. I
mean there's people I'm kind of worried about. You know,
it's a call called called call stop calling, and I
hope it's because maybe they are busy, That's what I hope,
or they're like, I don't, I don't want to do

(33:50):
that anymore, I don't want to want to call. I don't,
I don't. I don't like that anymore, or whatever, as
opposed to any other alternatives. There hopefully just busy, new
work schedule, new stuff, just can't can't get in, can't
can't call, you know, didn't have the same timings as
they do before. But but that's my point is that
you know, there are some people that have called a

(34:11):
lot here lately, and that's good. Some people not as
much here lately. But either way, it's kind of a
twelve month thing. That's why I've tried to put it
on there like that. And it's not just the amount
of calls that that's that's not the number one thing.
It does show commitment though, there's no doubt about it,
especially with how the call, how long it takes, to
get in. So if you get through a lot, that

(34:33):
means you are committed. So that is a big part
of it. But it's also the substance of the call.
How memorable are you? How how you know? Are people
talking about you and your points and things like that.
So there's a big There's a lot of factors involved here. Uh,
And I'm still working on some things as far as
what we're doing T shirt wise and maybe some other
compensation there for for these for these winners. So I

(34:57):
would think before the draft, well, we will definitely have
a show before the draft to announce it. All right,
Jeremy in Salt Lake City is next, Jeremy, what's up?

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Nick? A long time?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
How you doing?

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Wow, I'm good. I'm good. It's been harder to get
in obviously it's a good problem for you to have.
But yeah, big shout out to Dave on. I'm always
agreeing with him on the chat when we get together.
The shoryliners on Twitter last week, I think it was
my fault little uh. It got a little blue in there,

(35:30):
and I apologize, but we're all passionate. But I shout
out to Dylan and Irene for running that because it
gives you know, some of us that don't get an
opportunity to call in as much a place to to
get to talk to everybody and and get our opinions
out there.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Right.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
As far as the yeah, yeah, And like I said,
I don't know if I I turned off the other anyways,
it was cool having you on on thatthernight.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
Yeah. So my big thing with the contract with Micah
is like, you know, we're all so starved for football,
you know what I mean? And I think it gets
this way for a lot of people with free agency
stuff too, is they you know, they hate hearing about
other teams making deals and so you know they comparison

(36:25):
is the seat of joy, right, So like you're trying
to compare us to what the Eagles are doing and
what all these other teams are doing, and it's just
I don't think it's all the time fair because they
don't have the same problem, the same cap issues, or
none of the thirty two teams have the exact same issues. Right,
So we've all got our different things to do, and

(36:47):
this deal with Michael will get done. But this we're
talking about a lot of money, and everybody's got to
keep in perspective that this is like probably I would say,
you know, up there with Dak and see, I mean,
this is a very very important contract for the whole
franchise looking forward for the next five six years. Whatever

(37:10):
we do here with Micah, we're going to have to
live with and we're gonna have to work around for
the next six years. So you know what I mean,
You've got to kind of fight that inpatience to where
you got to kind of realize everything's everything deals to
get done, and you know it realized that we just

(37:32):
we just want football. We just missed football. Right. The
other thing with the draft is another thing, you know,
I think with the twelfth pick, you I agree, we've
got to have a difference major. If Jens is there,
you've got to take the generational talent, you know what

(37:55):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
If Ted's there, you got.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
To take the generational talent. Beyond that, I'm cool with this,
you know, getting out of that pick and getting some
more picks. But I think those are the two generational
talents that we can get on offense that'll take this
offense to another level.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Let me ask Jerry, let me ask you this. You
mentioned McMillan right from Arizona. Yeah, any concerns of the
video that came out.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
Absolutely, I was just gonna say something about that. The
guy's a generational talent, but he doesn't like to watch
film and so when you say that, it means you
kind of don't love football, you know, right, And and
I think that's been our problem with some of these
guys like Mazi and you know, Taco, like their big

(38:50):
problems is they didn't love football, you know what I mean.
And I don't want a guy in the first round
that doesn't love football. But I also think, I don't know,
I don't know if if too much was made of
that comment. I would love to hear your opinion on that, yeah,
because I think he is a generational talent, and I

(39:12):
mean just his size and speed next to CD has
fans ruling right, and I'm sure Dak too. So yeah,
really it'd be cool to get your opinion on that.
And big shout out to Daveyon by the way, the
dude's voice is the silkiest week he's got to get
in radio. Nick, Yeah, you know what I mean, But yeah, yeah,

(39:37):
I got after all the storyliners.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, I could hear daveon doing the radio call, you
know from like, you know, it's smooth listening here on
the you know, on the hits at night and all that. Yeah,
I could I could hear him playing the playing the
being the DJ. But all of you guys have have
you know, Jeremy got a pretty good voice there too.
As from your point though, and what we're talking about

(40:00):
with with McMillan. Uh, And I guess the video and
I honestly, I'm not sure when that that came out.
I mean I feel like it was not recently. I
think it was. It was a while ago. Where he's
eating and somebody's asked him about film and all that.
He's like, I don't like watching film. I really don't
like to study. I don't know all that. A lot

(40:21):
of guys don't probably like to work out either.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
But do they you know, like there's there's do they do?
They do what they need to do, and that's that's
something we all have to to go, you know, to
to learn and all that. And so a young player
that hasn't ever really had to study, think about it
being that size in high school and even college and

(40:48):
you can go and just go make plays and all that,
you know, Randy Moss didn't study really and didn't even
Randy Moss didn't even like stretch. He didn't he didn't
go through the warm up lines like the rest of
the team. I mean, I don't know if that was
his entire career, but I've seen it before. I mean,
it was the weirdest thing to see your whole team
lined up, fifty players on the field lining up except

(41:10):
for him. He's just jumping around and doing his own
little thing. But it worked. One of the greatest players
to ever play. So if you're gonna be that good, great.
But but I think young players can can learn how
to be great, how to be great pros. Is it alarming? Yeah,
a little bit. I like I'd like to hear a

(41:31):
little bit more about that, and also about his coaches
and all that, and but but yeah, because I didn't
love when when Mazzie Smith made that comment, like I
don't really like football, just like to hit people, you know.
And I've said this on here before. I hated that instantly.
A lot of fans loved it, like, yeah, that's who
we need. And I hated it because it goes against
what I've always said about when you win and lose games.

(41:54):
You win and lose games on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You're
not hitting really, you're really not hitting anyone there. Okay,
that's when you're studying. That's when you're you're making sure
your body's right. That's to make sure you're you're understanding
your techniques and practicing the game plans and all that
kind of stuff. You're really not hitting people. So that's
when you get good. So if you're really not interested
in all this stuff except for Sunday, then you're not

(42:15):
going to be a good player. And so far, I
think it's safe to say we haven't seen what's what
made Mazzie Smith the first round pick. We haven't seen
it yet, and it's about time to show it for
for him and for all players entering their third year
that haven't done it yet.

Speaker 14 (42:31):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
This is the time. No more learning curve anymore. Like
if you if you've got it in you, it's got
to come out this year. And so going back to McMillan,
he sounds like a great player, sounds like he could
be the t Higgins type player to to Jamar Chase,
which is very you know, important, and that's exciting. But
but look, you know, I don't know. They need to

(42:55):
do a little bit of a deep dive into that comment.
And also, just like they would with anything even without
that comment, you got to you've got to make that.
You know, you've got to do your homework on these guys,
all right, Chris and San Angelo's next, Chris? What's up?

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Hey, mister Nick?

Speaker 9 (43:10):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Bud?

Speaker 5 (43:12):
You know I'm doing pretty good. It's been a lot
since I've talked to you, and it's been long enough
that the last time we spoke, I was saying that
I wasn't I wasn't good on the signing Otha for
twenty million dollars a year, and since then I've completely
changed my team, thinking that is a stroke of genius. Now,

(43:35):
but anyway, what I what I'll have for you is
the three agent moves that they've made. Do you think
that they are at this point set up to truly
take their best player available in the draft?

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Now?

Speaker 5 (43:54):
You to see what you thought about that, And my
thoughts were, I surprisingly think that they have, And so
I just wanted.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
You don't think there's any position that you're like, you
feel like they could go play a game tomorrow for
the most part, at any position.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
And yeah, okay, let me I put an asterisk. It
would it wouldn't be bad if that player happened to
be a running back or or a defensive lineman. But
I still think that they've ye set themselves up.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, n Williams and Miles Sanders can run the football.
I mean, like it's not going to be the best
one two punch in the league, but they can run it.
I just wonder who your left tackle is going to be.
I mean, is it Tyler Goton? I don't I don't know,
but I don't think, but I don't think anybody. And
you're going to get for the price that they're looking

(44:50):
at in free agency, you weren't going to get anybody
that can you know, well, okay, you say that, or
I was about to say that, and then I had
to stop myself because actually we didn't think that signing
Chiu Maidoga would be somebody that would challenge Tyler Goeyiton.
But it actually he was better than Geyiton, which is
really kind of sad. So so that's so, yeah, maybe

(45:13):
you could go get a left tackle and free agency
and be better than what you have there. But but
that's that's what makes me think the play at number
twelve is the left tackle. That's what I would do.
I would, I would, I would go get another another tackle.
And if Tyler Goyiton, if that lights a fire under
him when he ends up being a really good player,
then at some point Terrence Steel maybe isn't your right

(45:35):
tackle anymore. Geyton could be right and you can figure
that out. But give me that problem to have. But
I think I think the offensive line is the play
here in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Well, you know, I can't. I can't argue that.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
But but.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
My main point was who is the best player they
feel in their view? And then, yes it is a tackle,
that would be that would not hurt my feelings.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
If it's a corner, would would that be? Okay?

Speaker 5 (46:05):
That would be perfect too.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
What if it's a was it a tight end?

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Oh well, if it's the guy.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It would be Penn State tight end right?

Speaker 15 (46:19):
Yes, yes, the name escape Warren.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Warren.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
I would you know what, if you're sitting there, you
do it?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Do it?

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Yeah, if he's the best player, I'm doing it. That's
just I mean, why, I think you set yourself up
pretty well for this uh, for this draft. And then
obviously I think that who you pick, you know, like
there weren't any splash players signed. I think your splash

(46:48):
player is probably your first pick and hopefully your second pick,
because he can't miss this draft up.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, yeah, I was. I was, actually I'm thinking about
that that pick. All right, chrisppreciate the call. Good to
hear from you, as always. You know, if the best
player was a tight end, the thing about that is
is that, yeah, you look at what you have and go.
You know, cowboys are good. Cowboys are are good at

(47:14):
at tight end. The guy Ferguson, he had an injury,
you know, plague year still caught. I think fifty passes
or so did not didn't score touchdown I don't believe,
or he didn't until late in the year. I don't know.
I don't think he did. Scoon Maker, you know, played
it played pretty good when when Ferguson was out. So
you have you have solid, you have good, you know,

(47:36):
solid to good, and you gotta sign Ferguson again here
and then that that's that's probably gonna happen too. They
could sign Ferguson and Tyler Smith before Micah. They could,
but if the tight end was the play here at
twelve and you and you picked him up, then you're

(47:56):
probably going to trade one of these tight ends that
you have. You know, I would think so. But you
know the thing about a tight end is if they're
really really dynamic and dynamic as a great route runner
understands where to be on the offense, but also can block,
that is a weapon. That's an absolute weapon. And we

(48:16):
see it with the Chiefs. That's all they really need,
and that's all the Patriots really needed, you know. They
they moved receivers just like the Chiefs do. But you
see the staples. It's quarterback and the tight end, and
you can do a lot of different things around them.
So I see some value there. I'm not saying that's
the move, but if that's who they view, then then

(48:37):
you're probably gonna have to trade one of the two
that you have. But you know, if he's that good,
then he can be a weapon because what it does
with mismatches against the defense can be really good. We
see it with these dynasties. We see the tight end
is a big, big part of it as well. All right,
let's go to Rob in Vegas.

Speaker 16 (49:00):
Hey, Nick, what's up?

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Rob?

Speaker 15 (49:02):
How you doing, I'm good, how's everything good?

Speaker 10 (49:04):
Good?

Speaker 11 (49:06):
I want to be against getting Warren the tight end
at twelve, or even trade down a little. If they
pick up a second wide receiver in free agency, Lockett
or or whoever, if they address that, then pickture that
offense with CD. Let's just say Lockett and warren't that

(49:27):
tight end, and then you get a running back in
the draft that'll be alright with that? Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Let me just say this. And I don't know if
Tyler Lockett fits this like you used to or whatever.
But the word that I keep hearing that that what
the the RAMS guy that went to Seattle, Cooper Cup,
what he didn't have really was the juice. You know,
that was kind of the thing for what what they
were gonna have to pay didn't have the juice. The

(49:57):
guys that they are looking for, and Steven said, explosive.
But the guy they're looking for has the juice. And
I think it's I don't know if that guy's in
free agency. That's why I think it's a trade. They're
looking for a number two receiver that's got some juice,
and that.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
Well, I agree, but you also have Turpin who's got
all the speed, and you could put him at the
slot receiver and then you don't need a burner at
the number two. That's what I would I would do.
I would try to get the ball and turp his

(50:33):
hand more than two times a game, you know, I would.
I don't like him as an outside wide receiver, but
in the slot. But you know, everybody's talking about Michael Parsons,
and as a fan, I think we were all hoping,
you know, ideal situation. They sign him for free agency

(50:53):
and then they go spend money finally and they go
get a green lord, they go get somebody's tough guys.
Once that didn't happen. Jeremy's not in no hurry to
sign Mike. He's going to drag this out. He'd rather
be in the in the news. It's gonna get done.
But it's only April. He's like, I'm in no hurry.
I'm not. I don't plan on spending any more money

(51:15):
in free agency. No any more money, any big money.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
So what's the hurry.

Speaker 11 (51:20):
So I'll ride this out to training camp like they
always do, and then they'll get mikeet done. You can't,
you know, And now you're gonna hear things like leadership. Listen,
I don't that is such a fake term when it
comes to players. You look across football through all kinds

(51:43):
of years, the leader of the team is the head coach.
I don't care how great the players were. Tom Landry
uh was the leader as great as Rogers Thard. I look,
Jimmy Johnson was the leader of the team. Michael Levian
was was maybe vocal, but no Jimmy john as the leader.
Bill Belichick was the leader. I don't need my players

(52:04):
to be the leader. And if they have to be
the leader, that's the problem. And that's the problem we've
had for the last few years, which he's head coaches.
We've brought it. So I don't that's to me, that's fake.
I mean they you know, I don't like I said.
Lawrence Taylor is the greatest defensive player that ever lived.
He wasn't no role model on and all. He didn't

(52:25):
like to practice and forget about what he was doing
on Friday night. But comes Sunday he's the maddest brother
on the field and that's all that matters. So they'll
get it done. But right now, it's it's April, it's like,
you know, let's drag this out. You know, I think
Michael would have took less. But now that he sees

(52:49):
number one, it's forty million hours, and now he sees
that Jerry's not going to invest that savings back at
it seem the way Michael wanted it to get done.
He's like, nah, I'm not taking about so it'll get
on forty million, one hundred and sixty garmont rosebuds.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah. Well, I think I don't know about you know,
the term leadership. I really think what the Cowboys are
looking at here, and and they've got to be somewhat
worried about the fact that, you know, they don't have
a good recent track record with these second contracts. Now,
I'm I did the list of six players.

Speaker 11 (53:24):
Yeah, but they've never had a player like this.

Speaker 17 (53:27):
You know, either way, either way, as great as CD.

Speaker 11 (53:31):
Lamb is, he's dependent on the quarterback. Mike is not
dependent really on anybody.

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Turn around, you.

Speaker 11 (53:38):
Put mica Ah here and you say go get the quarterback,
and we've seen that's what he does best. Is he
great against the run? No, but he's great at going
after the quarterback. And let's face it, last year he
really had no help in that position. Now he does.
Now he got Dante Fowler, who's is good at going
after the quarterbacks. What's his name, Williams of the Pact.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
He'll have help.

Speaker 11 (54:03):
But he to me, he's the guy that you pentle
in for five years and unless there's a stuff, a
bit of an injury, this is what he's great at.
This is I don't see him slowing down. He's in
his prime, so I don't see this being a danger.
He's not a he's not a guy that gets into trouble.
He likes to sit in his room or whatever and

(54:23):
go on podcasts. They all do it. I mean, I'd
rather have that get him out on a Friday night,
you know, getting you know, drinking and driving. So I'm
not worried about Micah at all about you know, the
you know, this may not work out. And the money
is about the money. The money, it just kicks going up.
It's it's monopoly money now, you know it really is

(54:46):
all right?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Well, I mean you're you're not wrong, You're not wrong
in what you're saying there. Thanks thanks for the call,
rob My, And and my point would be, you know
he's the lion, right, what's making him hungry, keeping him hungry,
you know, and if it's to be the absolute best
of all time, if that, if that's something that he

(55:07):
wants to do, so then then once he gets that
money to keep showing that he's worth it, he can
do all of that great great. For some reason, these
guys that I have written down here, they haven't done that.
They haven't taken that next step and really said, all right,
you know you got you got paid, and then now

(55:28):
they're even better. CD CD had had a pretty good year.
His numbers went down, but he also what he did
and played through the injury and stuff like that. I
think his numbers were still pretty pretty high. Uh, but
Dak Diggs, Hooker Steele, and Donovan Wilson really haven't done that.
They haven't taken that that that next step. And you
can go back way further than that. So you're right,

(55:49):
Mike is kind of depending on him to beat his
guy and that, you know, beat your guy, get off
the edge, disrupt the play, disrupt the whole offense. Do that,
and then he can be, you know, as great as
he's been. And and I I don't I agree with
the rob I don't think that will will change, but
all the other little things, you know, you you want

(56:10):
to make sure it doesn't become even more of a problem. Obviously,
there were some issues between him and DeMarcus Lawrence that
surfaced there at the end. It didn't surface, you know,
before that, which is good. But I had heard that
there was some some some talk there, mainly because it
was more who's the who's the leader of this defense?

(56:30):
Who's the guy? And you know, I don't think there'd
be any question, Uh, there's no question. There wasn't really
a question once Micah got here who it was, Uh,
And there certainly wouldn't be now if anyone else comes
in here. But that's a good problem to have too.
All right, let's go to break real quick on the
Cowboys storyline. We'll be right back to wrap this thing up,
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go to Chris in Saratoga Springs, New York.

Speaker 14 (58:43):
Hey, Nick, how are you good? How are you not
too bad? I'm the one that got this train starter
with Tyler Warren. I see you're starting to warm up
a little bit on that pick.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I mean, if he's the guy, now you got to
trade Jake Ferguson. I hate saying that, but I mean
you'd have to. You'd have to say, all right, well,
I mean you'd have to go acquire a draft pick
by by trading him. But if that, if that's the one,
I mean, I just feel like tight ends not your problem.

(59:13):
I don't. I think they can win with what they
have here, And I think you could go and fix
some other positions because you don't have that. You know,
you don't have a Jake Ferguson at a lot of
other positions that type of level. So I don't think
you necessarily need it. But hey, if he's that good,
and if he's the guy that they absolutely adore, then yeah,

(59:35):
why not.

Speaker 14 (59:37):
You said we need a left tackle, right, wouldn't a
good blocking tight end like this guy help out that
left tackle as well, give you that other option.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
No, no, And I say that because I'm not drafting
the tight end at twelfth overall so he can help
me block my left tackle, I mean help my left hack. No,
I'm not doing that. And I understand what you're saying.
He's got to be a guy that can do both. Sure,
but he's not gonna be the twelfth overall pick because
he's pancaking people. It's because of the plays that he's

(01:00:06):
making down the field. So I'd like to figure I
like to get a left tackle who can just be
the left tackle and doesn't need any help. May call
me spoiled, but that's what we've seen with Tyron Smith
over the years and so anyways, but he's got to
be able to when it's time to run the ball,
he can get down there and do the dirty work.
That's what would make a you know, to me, an

(01:00:29):
elite tight end can do both of those things, and
he can.

Speaker 14 (01:00:34):
My other thing is the comment about the explosive wide receiver.
What are your thoughts on a player like Tyreek Hill
via trade. Obviously, I think I think.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I think you're on the right track. I don't know
if it's him, but I think you'd be on the
right track there. But yeah, I mean it would be
it would be a guy like that for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Yeah, it's going to say that.

Speaker 14 (01:01:00):
In my last comment was I read something that Shotty
was given my man brock hoff and some props about
his tenacity and how he likes him as a player.
And he's another one that I said that I just
love him at that guard position.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, I mean, he's perfect for your team. I mean,
you have a guy like that on your team is great.
And he may not be the most talented, but but
you know, just let's just keep saying that because that's
what's fueling him. He just say, all right, well, you
want to draft someone else, You want to pick up
someone else cool, You want to bring in you know,
Rob Jones or whatever they brought in the guy from Miami.

(01:01:35):
Brock Hoffin's probably met him, you know, hung out with him,
exchange numbers and all that, and then goes home and says,
all right, you want to draft it, you want to
sign another guy, We'll watch this so great teammate but
also fueled by the fact that he's just not getting
the starting job and he has to keep fighting for it,
which is what he does. He's a fighter and we
see it a lot of times in the game. I agree,

(01:01:57):
all right, all right, Chris, good here for thank have
a good one. All right, let's keep moving here, let's
go to Irene Falls Church, Virginia.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
What's up by good morning?

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
How you doing good?

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
How are you doing well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Doing well?

Speaker 16 (01:02:13):
So let me let me track back.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
I actually, you know, I've been.

Speaker 16 (01:02:17):
Calling in but not listening to the full show so
as much. So I've been catching up and I'd wanted
to answer a question Zach in Atlanta had for you,
but I thought I should answer it too, because I
thought a question was cool about what position you would play.
I always love the tight end position, and I felt
like that kind of fit in with your Tyler Warren

(01:02:38):
conversation today. But the idea of somebody having to be
smart enough to go out, run routes and block I
don't know. I thought that was kind of cool.

Speaker 10 (01:02:47):
So that's mine.

Speaker 16 (01:02:48):
It doesn't mean I want him at twelve though, I
think I don't want that, but you could sell me
on it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:54):
You could sell me on.

Speaker 16 (01:02:55):
Lock it, yeah, or or somebody else maybe in South
Florida might want to be traded. That would be cool anyway.
All Right, So I'm kind of the set the scene person.
Last year, I asked you, like what draft Day was like,
but I want to know what Brian brought us. Calls
lying season is like for you guys while you're in
the building right now the information.

Speaker 11 (01:03:16):
Do you feel like your.

Speaker 16 (01:03:18):
People are not necessarily lying to you but giving you
less and less during this time? Is it just quieter
or did they ever steer you wrong? All right, I'll
take it offline though, all right, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily lying season. And it's
also it's that one press conference that I absolutely hate
is that the pre draft press conference, like a week
before the draft. All that they get out there and
they talk and they ask questions. It's like, what are
we really doing here? And I'll never forget twenty sixteen

(01:03:54):
the Stephen Jones is talking about the value of running
backs just not what it used to be and it's
just not something you can really, you know, lean on.
And then they draft Zeke with the fourth overall pick,
like like four days later, three days later something like that.
So that right there is when I was like, what
are we doing with this with this press conference? But
it's fine. You know, you talk, you talk to the

(01:04:16):
right people off the record. Yeah, you can get a
little bit of information on on on what's happening. And
because it's not necessarily lying season. Go look at the
guys that they're doing their last mock draft. They're eight
point zero mock draft or whatever they get up to.
You know, I seem everyone does their mocks and they
change him and all that, but the last one that
they do, that one will be you know, pretty good.

(01:04:40):
And it's because they're talking to the right people. They
get a good understanding of what teams are wanting and
needing and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
I do have a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Yeah, one of my favorite stories about that it was
was the envelope we were getting that That are one
of the old scout who's not here anymore, but but
he was for a long long time and he he
gave me an envelope like two weeks before the draft.
I mean this thing was sealed shut, like you're not
getting it. You know, he taped it like four times,

(01:05:13):
says open on draft day, this is two thousand and four,
and this is when the first and second round were
on the same day, and so, uh, all right, and
I put it up and he'd come by to be like,
you still got that. You haven't opened it? Like, no,
now it's up there, you know, opened it on draft Day. Well,
Draft day comes, the Cowboys had the first first round pick,

(01:05:35):
like twenty first overall, and then they decided to trade
it to Buffalo. So we thought that the hats some
running backs that they liked. We thought it was gonna
be Stephen Jackson that year and a guy named Kevin
Jones and from Virginia Tech. But they ended up trading
Parcels was the coach, and they they traded it and

(01:05:56):
they moved back and they got two picks in the
second round, and then I thought I was gonna get
Tatum Bell. They ended up being at Julius Jones was
what's the draft pick? But all along it looked like
they were gonna get one of these running backs in
the first round. But so they ended up getting Julius Jones. Well,
later that night, I totally forgot about the envelope. Was like, oh,

(01:06:18):
let's open this up. So much has changed, you know
that was crazy. That was back when they had a
first round pick and opened up a little piece of paper,
said Julius Jones. I was like, what because that wasn't
a guy that you talked about in the first round.
And then even when they moved back, Tatum Bell was
going around saying that Parcells told him they were going
to draft him, and he ended up going to Denver

(01:06:41):
I think three picks before, so they were probably gonna
take Tatum Bell, I don't know, but it was Julius Jones,
and so I always thought that was kind of interesting.
So we talked about getting you know, steered wrong and
all that, you know, and I've gotten an envelope a
couple of times before. And another time it was the pick.
It was a guy named Jay James Martin, which probably

(01:07:01):
shouldn't have been the pick, so that's that's not a
good thing. And then another time it was a running
back that they did not draft. It was the year
that they got Felix Jones, but they ended up the
guy that was that was on the card was a
guy named Jonathan Jonathan Stewart from Oregon might have played
for the Panthers or whatever. So you know, sometimes you
get it sometimes it's hard to really get ahead of

(01:07:23):
the draft. I say it every year. You just can't.
You can be prepared for it's hard to get ahead
of it. That year, though, twenty something years ago, the
Cowboys were all right, let's go to is it Anthony
and Miami's next?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Yes, sir Nick the quick what's up my guy?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
I'm pretty good, Nick, I know him at the end again,
I'm gonna see him. Last I went back in the lab.
I hadn't done it in a while, No raps, I
just went upside a quick form. I need about eighty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Oh my goodness about.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
My cowboys, my cowboys, what I want and my cowboy fandom.
It's gonna get you in. Trust me. It's good.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
All right, it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
You ready.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I think I think we have to be.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Let's do it all right down here we go Cowboys
for life. For allow me to reintroduce myself on Anthony
and Miami. And it's about that time to chop it
up with Nick to quick see being married my boys
from storyline, it's a show I called on with hanging
with the boys to last scene and bring all that

(01:08:29):
cowboy noise him and and Tony d They're my all
time phase. Michael, I call them the anomaly and Dak
are my boys these days, trades, free agency, drafts, no
matter the reason, Anthony supports his Cowboys in and out
of season, players and coaches. They change in time. But

(01:08:53):
I'm the type of blood diamond cowboy for life. For
that's so hard to find. So twenty twenty five Cowboys season,
I welcome you with full embrace. We will win our
sixth Super Bowl. But if not, if mister Jones says,
give us some grace, ooh, we I want that ask
and bad one great bat. I see a number one

(01:09:14):
offense in our future with him CD and D so
through all the haters, dowers and band wagoners a light
keep that misery over there. While I dropped this mic,
there you go. The time section is back, baby Zach.

Speaker 7 (01:09:32):
Where are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
My man?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Thank you so much for that. We got to keep
it moving. That was That was good, good stuff. That
reminded me of one of those Adam Sandler movies where
he's like, I bring the beers, I'll bring the That's
what it reminded me of. That was good, though neither
Maybe we need a little bit of music there, but
you know, I could ask Chris to do a forty
six things and be you know the DJ as well. Uh,

(01:09:57):
good stuff, good stuff, Anthony. I liked it. Let's keep
it going now it's got william Is the OG calls
himself William from West Virginia? What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Are we doing that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Good? How are you so?

Speaker 17 (01:10:09):
I'm pretty good doing the shows always, and I'm looking
forward to the draft this year. I was wondering who
you thought would be your choice for running back to
the Cowboys in the draft, if I would like Anderson
in Ohio state and we could get him the second
round after my choice. The second comment, I've seen it
going around social media where people are saying, well, should

(01:10:30):
Tank Lawrence be put in and the Wing of Honor?

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):
One day?

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Look, I had a lot of.

Speaker 17 (01:10:33):
Respects to Tank. I thought it had really well and
Jordan being here, But until Harvey Martin gets in, I
don't think you can even have that conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
So I get your take on that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Yeah, you know what, leave it to you to ask
that question. Because I was actually driving in to work
this morning and I heard that talk about is he
a Ring of Honor guy? And I thought to myself.
If somebody asked me that on the show, I think
I have to say, Martin, you know, and you're right,

(01:11:03):
you're one hundred percent right now. The Danny White Tony
romo thing, I'll argue it, it's different to me, but
not not when it comes to sacks with Harvey Martin.
If you're not going to put Harvey Martin in, then
there's no way DeMarcus Lawrence contin at all.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
I know what thing I took.

Speaker 15 (01:11:19):
I took.

Speaker 17 (01:11:19):
If I ever met Danny White, Nick, I'll go up
to him and I apologize. I say, sir, I took
a fut of Brandons for all those years, those three
straight conference championship games. I owe him an APOLOGI plumb show.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Yeah, well, you know he was. He was a really good,
solid player as well. And you know, different time though
in the in the eighties, as the Cowboys were just
losing players and and and that that dynasty you know,
ended and and and they were they weren't the same,
and he was the quarterback for it, and so it
was it was tough. But but you're right, Marcus Lawrence

(01:11:52):
a good player. He was a he was a really
good player.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I don't think he was a leader, you know, like
like would talk about leadership and and and there will
be people that think that he.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Is and was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
I don't know about that, but but I just think,
you know, it's unfortunate that he made those those comments.
I thought they were unnecessary. But you know, and he's
not gonna win in Seattle, like I you know, and
he knows that, like he knows that. But but that's
that's okay. He got he got paid. It wasn't about that.
It was about getting paid.

Speaker 17 (01:12:24):
And so you know, people people jump on Mica for
his podcast, I guess what they forget to Hervey Martin
has the beautiful Harvey Martin Shaw back on it back
in the day on the Ridge. Harvey was a transider.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Back then, too true, certainly was. But so yeah, he's
he's making it. Harvey Martin and Hiss and the sacks
that he has makes it really hard for anybody at
that position to get in unless you're you know, unless
you're deware. But I mean, I don't even think I
don't even think DeMarcus Lawrence would get in over too
Tall Jones.

Speaker 17 (01:12:54):
You know, I agree, I agree with that one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I agree, yes, Anyways, all right, Well, pretiate appreciate the call.
Good stuff is all we got anything else?

Speaker 10 (01:13:03):
No, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I'm looking forward with the draft. Know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Thank you? He said. Running back. Mm. Yeah, everyone's so
focused on Ashton Genty and I and I don't think
it's gonna happen, you know. I just I feel like
he's just he's going to be picked higher unless the
Cowboys make a trade there. But Hampton from North Carolina here,

(01:13:28):
you know, good?

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Caleb Johnson? Is that the running back from Iowa? Again,
I'm not as polyshed on it as as always. Henderson
you mentioned from Ohio State. I mean I've seen the
one play that pretty much doomed Texas a season when
he caught that one right before the half.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
But that shows the ability, you know, catch the ball
out of the backfield, but also home run hitter. I
mean that that's the kind of guy that that that
you definitely need. And he showed at Ohio State. Because
there's a couple of guys there. He showed at Ohio State.
You know, you'd be able to split carries and be
ready to go. And that's what the NFL is. There's
really not a lot of bell cows anymore. You got
to be the guy that can, that can come in

(01:14:07):
when it's time for you to step in, step in
and make play, even though you haven't maybe played for
two series or so. Keep yourself ready and at all times.
And so you know, I think a lot of these
running backs they do that in college now, so they're
they're ready to share the ball. All right, let's go.
We got one more caller here. We've got Casey in
Los Angeles, Casey.

Speaker 15 (01:14:30):
Nick, how's it going good? How are you pretty good?

Speaker 17 (01:14:33):
First time?

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
Long time?

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
We go? We go?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Look at the pause? I love it? All right, what
do you what do you got?

Speaker 15 (01:14:43):
I just want to build on. I hope there's really
smoke to the Keenan Allen talk. I know he's not
a speedster, but this guy is unguardable on third down
and he could really help the offense on third down
in red zone, which obviously where areas of need last year.
So I know you still have to get a speech there,
but I love to fit if the price is right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Yeah, And I think you know, every year teams have
to reshap and rebuild.

Speaker 15 (01:15:10):
You lose a ton of players. So I'm always an
optimist and I think you get the right pre agents
in there, which I think they've done at a draft class.
We're going to be competitive. Yeah, yeah, So I'm not
a doom and gloom guy, and I think Keenan would
be a great fit for this squad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I do too. I mean, I think that would be
I like that move more than I like Locket because
I think he's a great route runner and I think
he could kind of serve to the same thing that
Brandon Cooks did as far as helping younger guys develop
and and and you know, learn how to run routes
and you know, and I think again that his job

(01:15:48):
would be to make place. The job isn't to do
like like what Brandon Cooks did for Tolbert was outstanding,
but it's not necessarily your job. But if Keenan Allen
could come in here do some things, and again I'm
just I don't know if that's happening or anything like that.
I'm just saying a guy like him that could come
in and show Ryan Flinoy, Jalen Brooks. Jalen Toldbert this

(01:16:11):
is how I work, this is how I get better,
this is how I run routes. Then I think that
would be that would be beneficial, and I don't think
it would be a progress stoper. Really. That's that's what
the fear of getting an older receiver right now is
that you know, are you are you stopping progress from
someone that can help you. And also you're going to
draft the guy too. So but I don't hate it.
I don't hate it at all. And hopefully you know

(01:16:34):
if that did happen, I mean he was in Chicago
and and you know Ibraflus was there. I mean Ibaflus
is coaching the defense, but still from a connection there
of what type of guy is he should have?

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
That?

Speaker 15 (01:16:45):
Yeah, this was absolutely money. I watch all the Charger
games too, and it'd be a great benefit to the squad.
Like I said, I'm not worried about him stopping progress.
I'm worried about this team not scoring touchdowns. I think
he can help on that too, And I'm that they're
down to a.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Great pit, fair fair, fair point for sure. So all right,
thanks nag, all right, man, appreciate the call. Case in
La wraps it up. Thirteen calls. We'll take that for sure.
All right, Well, don't go anywhere. We've got Cowboys breaks
coming up right now. I'm sure they'll have a lot
of draft talk and a lot of other stuff about

(01:17:21):
Jerrymiicah and all that good stuff, just like you guys did.
All Right, we will do this again next Wednesday, for sure.
Stay tuned for that second show. We'll be adding it
at some point. Hopefully we'll be adding it in to
to the line up here in the next week or so.
All right for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. See next
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