Cowboys StoryLine: On the Fence-Lion

The callers are somewhat mixed about Micah Parsons and if the Cowboys should actually pursue a trade for the star pass-rusher.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
What's up, guys, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. That's Wednesday, February
the nineteenth. Trying to get used to this once a
week business. We've got here, but get a chance to
talk to you guys. Finally, let's see what you have
to say. Well, not much has changed, really, Cowboys just
kind of finalizing their coaching staff. Got a chance to
talk to all of them yesterday, or at least the

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position coaches and coordinators. I don't say all of them,
that would probably take a year. They have thirty forty
guys on the staff in some capacity, but for the
main coaches, I guess you could say the position coaches,
the coordinators. We got a chance to talk to them
fifteen or so and those and those interviews will be

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able to for you guys to watch throughout this week
on the website. We've got the coordinators up today, offensive
coaches going up later today and then defense maybe tomorrow.
So get a chance to kind of see what we
saw and get first glimpse of them, and you know,
they all sound good, they all sound like they know
football that they you know that they're going to come
in and bring good, fresh ideas. You know, you you

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don't want to get caught up in all that because
you hear it all the time. But you know there
were some positive things that came from that, for sure.
And you know, just this is that time of year
where you're starting to get somewhat excited again about the
about the new stuff. And this team needed some change.
Maybe not a ton of change, but they definitely needed something.
And then they've got some Brian Schottenheimer and then a

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lot of the coaches that he's got. All right, eight
five five to two ninety seven's the number of calls. See
how many calls we can get in today. Let's get
us us started in Illinois, davy On in Illinois. What's up? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
What it do you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
A couple of weeks, A couple of weeks, I've been,
you know, working night, so I couldn't get in, but
I said I'll get in today. I can't get away,
can't get away too long from y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Sure, sure.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
A couple of things I was I was listening to
talking yesterday, and I heard that Michael was talking about
trying to be at o TA started OTAs. I'm hoping
that's true because it would be great to see one
of our leaders being there starting off because I know
at OTA is gonna start early because of the new coach,
So it'll be good to see him start off with

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a bang and see how see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, that would be nice. I know we didn't have
that last year really with Zimmer, but that would be
nice if he could do that, you.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Know, Yeah, that's true. And then also other coordinators that
talked yesterday because I watched I pretty much watched all
of them.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Yeah, who was.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Your favorite one that you You've got a quote from
him which one and I guess was kind of get
you more excited be.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
For Well, I'll ask it back to you. I mean,
Clayton Adams was pretty impressive to me. Uh, And I
know Flus eba Flus. I know him, and I'm not
saying that's a bad thing. I just that's what I
expect from him. And and you know, and he gonna
be interesting to see what his defense looks like. But
but Clayton Adams, I really didn't know and Uh, you know,

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he was a hot commodity, not just by the Cowboys
but some other teams as it turns out. So I'm
I'm decided to hear what he said for sure, and uh,
you know, it's gonna be interesting because there's a lot
of offensive line voices. You have an offensive line coach
in Riley, but Adams is an offensive line coach as well,
so you definitely have some some attention to the offensive line,

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which is a good thing.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, Adams was my favorite. I really like what he said.
I mean, especially when you're talking about violence and getting
getting acted, because I think this team is really need
a toughness. I think it starts in the lines both,
but definitely that offic the line get to that toughness
and bringing it out and really getting out the people
for the run game and stuff like that. Lastly, before

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I get off, we're looking to try the Proble to
come in the second week of August to Ox and Awork,
So we're trying to finalize the dates. So we look.
We really excited about trying to get up there at
CEO and be in person.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, well, I'll say this about making plans for auxen Art,
you gotta be careful with everything with it. I mean
I would try to wait as long as you can
and maybe until the schedule comes out, because you just
don't know what certain days are going to look like
with the games. You know, what weekend is good, you

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know the end of it's like you said, the second
week of August. But but you know, I think what
I think we have two home games in the preseason
this year. Now that that I don't know if that's right,
that maybe just one one home game in the preseason.
But my point is is that got to be careful
with with the schedule. The schedule can do some weird,
weird things. They can put us in weird spots on

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Thursday night games, Saturday night games, which means your weekends
could be weird. So just throw it out there, you know. Yeah,
I'd hate for you guys to trip up playing a
trip and the next thing, you know, there's only one
practice day in that span or two days or something
like that. So you always it's hard to get ahead
of it, is what I really want I'm trying to say.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So yeah, I got it. Like I said, with no job,
I got to try.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
To fish do it. You gotta do it now. We'll
we'll make it work. Man, Well you guys will you
guys will be great, It'll be it'll be the fun
experience whenever. Just you said, second week of August.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, looking looking like right now. And I want to
get on them books when I get up there.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I'm bringing some books, bringing some books.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, I can't wait. I remember you're telling another guy,
so I'm definitely looking ex tited to get one. But
other than that, man, all right, man, I have a
good one.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I'm uh, I'm listening for the rest.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Thanks, David, I appreciate that. Let's go by the way, Nick, Yeah,
we do have two home games, two home games next year. Yes,
we had two on the road this year, which that
makes me think that I think or hope that maybe
training camps a little bit shorter than that it was
last year. In those thirty days last year, I mean,
that's too long.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
You remember two years ago the Cowboys went did the
two home two home games, but they did come home
and then go back to California for another week.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
If I remember, I think I would be all right
with that. That'd be all right, come home for a
couple of days and then go back. Yeah. He starts
staying you know, a full month. I mean that's where
you start getting fires and stuff like that in the
complex and all that. I mean, just just weird stuff happens.
You can't be doing that. All right, Let's go to
Anthony and Miami.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
Anthony, Nick the quick, How you doing, my gud?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I'm good. You're probably the only person that's gonna call
today that's not dealing with the same stuff with the weather.
You're probably the only one. I would think, yes, And.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
I've you know, I feel bad for the people that's
really going through it. We just got a little rain.
They might get a little colder starting tonight.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Well yeah, you guys deal with a different kind of
weather later in the in the summer, so it's all.
It all evens out.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah, you better believe it, all right, man?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
What you got Anthony?

Speaker 8 (07:18):
Uh? Come on, man? You know me, Man, I try
positive keep it and you know it's a race, you know,
but man, it's one thing in my spirit. Man, I
was gonna lay off. You know, I laid off for
a week. I had caught four times in a row.
I laid off for a week together people a chance
because it's once a week. Then I listened to all
the podcasts as I do, support everything, and I look

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at comments under the podcast and I try to put
positive stuff, but that's so much negativity. And one thing
that a lot of people, I think are the ones
who are saying this are wrong. They are wrong about this.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
We are not.

Speaker 8 (07:53):
We can't trade Michael Parsons. Please stop, people, please stop,
Let's stop. We're gonna build this team. We got new
cooche staff. This. This young man is showing true leadership.
He's trying. He is truly trying. When you get a
young guy around twenty five years old Nick Underside trying

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to do what he's doing, and he's taking some of
the negative criticism that he's done, but he's so impactful.
If the ones that just don't like him apparently would
watch and see the impact he has for the rest
of the guys on the defense, right, I mean, three
All Pros and four Pro Bowls stopped at people. And
then the man said that I don't have to be
the highest I'm not gonna be that. I don't have

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to reset no market and all that. I need players
in here, so I'm do that. I'm not saying Dak
had to do that, but that's true leadership. So let's
get this draft thing going, do some free age. If
he's gonna do it, get me fifty three guys out there,
and let this young bull be a leader, and let's go.
Let's get behind him. He's gonna be a cowboy for
a long time. People, He's great. He's an anomaly, So

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accept it.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, I got to say environment.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
I appreciate your brother, all.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Right, Anthony. I appreciate that. I'm curious to see or
to just to know how many people share that with you,
and and and not just on this show, but just
just in general, just cowboy fans in general. I I
agree with you, and and I I caution when I

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say this about leadership. Nobody really knows what leadership is.
You know. I'm not saying you don't know what it is,
but you don't know what these what leadership is for
each player, each team, what really goes on who's being
a leader? Who isn't. Just because you're the quarterback doesn't
mean you're the leader. And I'm not talking about Dak.
Dak is a leader. I'm just saying in general, we've

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had it. I don't think Romo would be considered the
best leader in the world. Uh, he'd probably say that.
But but just but sometimes you know, you you have
to be the leader by example, be the vocal leader,
whatever it is. And you know whether or not he's
he's leading them in the workouts out here or doing
whatever he's doing. But the way he goes about his business,

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way he plays, the way he wrecks football games, I'd
like more people to follow that. So if that's a leader,
then that that would be fine. Now, again i don't
know everything that goes on, and I've heard a lot.
I've heard people say a lot there's people that have
to deal with them that that would trade him. I
know that. I know that for a fact. I've heard that,

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and I'm like, oh, well, that's interesting. Then I watch
the game. And I watched a meaningless Washington game at
the last game of the season where he's going out
looking for stats. Well, that's okay, get stats. Stats are good.
Sacks are good. Sax means you're getting off the field,
you're making plays. I don't have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with the guy going out

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that I'm trying to get three or four sacks. Now,
if you're not, if you're not stopping the run. If
you're going inside when you didn't get you broke containment
and there's a nine yard runt. Okay, that's a problem.
Stay within the game plan, but go out and make plays.
Be a leader. I'm for that. I'm not I'm not
trading Michael Parsons. He's a He's a once in an

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every twenty years type of player. I don't think he's
trade him. I think you build and get another Michaeh.
Parsons and you get another guy around him. That's what
I would do. I draft another one and try to
just let have a party at the quarterback every every
third down. All right, Robbie and Ko Kobe's Florida.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
Nick and Anthony from Miami, you guys just preach it.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
I love what you both just.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
Saidang was awesome.

Speaker 10 (11:33):
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
You don't get a generational talent with every draft pick.
Why are you going to trade two draft picks for
Parsons and not.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Get the guy that's half as.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Good as him?

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, and you just all.

Speaker 9 (11:47):
Want that ninety nine ranked player in Matt.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, you're just assuming two draft picks.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
I mean, you could agree even three.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
But what are the chances.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
How many times we talked about it.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You could have a star player draft picks. Yeah, you
could have a star player and trade him for an
old and that's it. I mean I've seen it. It happens.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Let's hope not Luca.

Speaker 9 (12:05):
So yeah, I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It happens.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
Hey, how's things going, man? How's the kids and family?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, you know, we're bundled up doing doing our thing here.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
It's yeah, Beam said, it's cold there.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
You need to bring him on.

Speaker 9 (12:18):
You bring Jake on the show again as his person here.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
He did try to for Nachla's way out of school
today because it was like thirteen degrees and wind chill
of one, so he thought he needed to come to
work with me today. But now he has to stay
and learn. What do you got, Robery?

Speaker 8 (12:37):
Not that, man.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
I just wonder what's going on in Cowboys, Rold. I
haven't heard any real news lately, and I'm hoping to
hear something good from you.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
All right? Well, this is what I would say for
for everybody for the rest of the of the week.
You can start today and tomorrow if you haven't already.
Is check out those those videos we'll have on the
side of of our of our coaches, you know, and
it's all it's all nice and good. No one's lost
the game. Everybody's excited about being here, being with the Cowboys,

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being with Shot and Humber. They're saying all the right things.
So if you can get anything from that, great, If not,
that's okay. I mean I interviewed the running backs coach
Derek Foster today. He doesn't know his running backs are
going to be. He doesn't know who he's going to coach,
you know. I mean, he talked about duce Vaughan a
little bit. Uh and uh, you know he could relate
to duce Vaughan. So Derek Foster can He's a running back,

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he played running back, not not gonna be in the NBA. Yeah,
none of our coaches are going to be in the
NBA to be you know, they're gonna not gonna have
a pickup basketball game. So which is fine that that's okay,
that's not what it's about. But but uh, what my
point is is, is not only Derek Foster going to
be coaching douce Vaan, but he's coached Austin Eckler. He

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coached with the Saints last year with Alvin.

Speaker 10 (13:54):
KM was really good in San Diego for a couple
of years too.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yes, exactly. So he understands the whole package there for
for these running backs, whether it be big guys, short guys, uh,
quick guys, whatever it is. So, uh, you know, if
he can help reduce fun and not only that, but
you know you've you've got I forget his first name,
Riley the offensive line coach for Kansas he was at

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Kansas State. He's coached Cooper Bebie and obviously so those
those yeah, that could be you know, another good situation there.
So a lot of good stuff. That's really the main
things Robbie that's coming from the you know, the new
from the news side year.

Speaker 9 (14:35):
Yeah, okay, cool, Hey, can I ask one more question?
What's up with the All Storylines team?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's getting there, getting there? Yeah, I mean we're all right.
Well here here's what I'm working on. I'll like thanks
for the call, Robbie. I'm gonna I'll take this off there,
keep the phone lines open. So we're getting we're getting
close to kind of figuring out the team. I usually
like to do that at the end of this you know,
fiscal year if you will, which which will kind of

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take us through February and then we roll over into
into March, and uh working on a sponsor for this
for and working on a sponsor for the show, not
not not not really just for the shirts but sort
of for the shirts, but also for the for the show.
So we've got a couple of got some guys from

(15:22):
upstairs in our marketing team client services that are that
are talking to me about you know, not that it's
my decision, but they're just talking to me about different
sponsors and what would be a good good fit here
for the show. And I'm hoping to you know, slap
their logo on the side of a shirt here so
uh they can pay for it. That's really what it
comes down to. But from the team standpoint, uh still,

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the team is pretty much set. I'm kind of working
on putting the final final touches of on all of that,
but and figuring out how I want to do it.
But yeah, we're we're getting there, Robbie. And you've you've
you've got a spot. I'll just I'll just say I'm
not gonna reveal the team. I think you've got a spot,
all right, let's go to Shelby in Virginia. Shelby, what's up.
It's been a while, Nick, how's it going. It's going good.

(16:09):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (16:10):
Oh, I'm doing great. It's it's great to talk to
you again. Yeah, got a new job. I'm teaching, and
so their schedule has just not allowed me to call in.
But I realize now that you all start at ten thirty,
I've got a little window here while they're in music.
So I'm here talking to you. I'm just happy to
be here.

Speaker 12 (16:25):
But I don't know that we have we.

Speaker 11 (16:26):
Talked since the Commander's Game of last season.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I don't know. I mean I've been here. I mean,
I mean i've been here. I don't know if you've
got a chance to call. But you're talking about since
you did like the super active kindness and gave the
tickets away to h So another caller.

Speaker 11 (16:44):
Oh, well, you don't have to put it like that.
But it was just a ton of fun. And Mark
from Philly and I will text each other all the time,
and so we're just buddies now. It's the funniest. I'll
text them pictures of my kid and stuff. And he
sent me an update from downtown Philly right before the parade,
really and all the porta potties and stuff. Yeah, so okay,
I created a great storyline friendship.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's awesome. Just quick, if anyone doesn't remember or didn't
know about this thing. At the end of this last season,
the twenty twenty three season, last game of the year,
Shelby had two tickets to the last game and and
put them here. What we did a trivia question or something.
We did a trivia question and with somebody called in

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or did a from the text line, got it? Got
it right? What you said? It was Mark and Philly.

Speaker 13 (17:31):
Yep, Mark and Philly.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And then he went to the game with y'all. And
then and now that's pretty awesome. I know, Chris and
I got a photo with you down there, you and
your dad right so, and.

Speaker 11 (17:42):
My dad says hello as well. I don't know if
fieldbial make it on soon either with work, but as
he was, we were talking the other day about the
show Blair right, yes, Blair Blair from Virginia.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Great recall.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Nice nice. So what'd you got it?

Speaker 11 (17:54):
It's less of a question, it's kind of a question.
I wrote an article for my blog a few years ago.
I think It was twenty twenty one called the Quarterback Dilemma,
and it basically broke down quarterback salaries against Super Bowl wins,
and it found that the average salary of a quarterback
that won the Super Bowl was like eleven and a
half million over the previous decade. And now my homes

(18:16):
just kind of gone in and messed up my numbers
a bit. But I guess my larger question is why
is there not a sense among quarterbacks? And this is
kind of league wide that I can my career will
be about three times what it is if I could
just take maybe fifteen less, right, I mean that's a tackle,

(18:37):
maybe a tackle and a half, and my life changes forever,
my team's lives, all of them changed forever.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
So I don't know.

Speaker 11 (18:44):
It was just something where I was watching Dax try
to get his deal and kind of coming out saying
trying to be maybe a little noble by saying like
I'm just trying to get other quarterbacks paid. And as
a fan, I just watched that and thought like it
just sounds like elim saying, you know, like hey, I
just want to see bezos get paid. You know, It's
like you've got a whole team of people under you

(19:05):
that are contributing to your success. And you know, I mean,
like a fifth of your contract is could be three
more contracts.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (19:13):
That's just always confused me considering how good with advertisements
and you know, sponsorships your life can be as a
Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, no, you're You're right. And I think I understand
what you're saying. I understand the point. Why not if
you're trying to help other other players, other quarterbacks in
the league, why don't you trying to help other players
on your own team and y'all have more success and
all that. Where it gets tricky is when you have
agents that are agents of other other top players in
the league, other quarterbacks too, and uh, you know, because

(19:45):
all these deals are put up next to each other.
So this guy got this, I'm better than him.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
If he got this, then I need I need to
get this. And that's how it happens. And it keeps,
you know, it keeps raising the stakes for all the quarterbacks.
And so that's kind of the game that's played. And
there's only one Tom Brady. You know, Tom Brady at
the end of his career still winning Super Bowls. Making

(20:13):
twenty million, twenty five million, it didn't matter to him
any anymore. He probably he knew he was going to
get a broadcasting deal to to, you know, reset that
market or if you will. So I wish there I
had a better answer. I mean, that's just kind of
I hate to say, like that's the way it is,
but that's just it is the way it is. And

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unless you're going to have a quarterback, that just says
I don't care. I don't care about about the way
the model is and the plan. I'm going to just
do it my way and try to win right now.
But that's just not that hasn't been the way this
market has worked.

Speaker 11 (20:48):
Yeah, that's sort of where the same thing I've I've
found myself, same.

Speaker 10 (20:52):
Reason I've come to.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
I know with mahomes it's it's like ten years, five
hundred million, record breaking. But but like y'all were talking
about last week with the A, will need to mess
with the accounting a little bit. I mean, that's a
team friendly deal. I mean ten years in the future,
that's like wildly team friendly. Though the figure looks ridiculous
and Brady was Brady was always kind of taken mid

(21:13):
to high market value, but like certainly less than a
five times six time however many time champion as he
went deserved.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
So I don't know, I just.

Speaker 11 (21:21):
It's just I see stuff like this where you've got
your predecessor, and your predecessors, I mean, the you know,
Aikman in the nineties, they both they're both in the
booth now. So I guess I guess that kind of
works against me because Romo didn't want a super Bowl
and got it. But I don't know, I just that's
bothered me. But yeah, tough question to answer.

Speaker 12 (21:38):
Is great talking to you.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
I got to hop off and get the class, but
always a treat.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
All right, Shelby, appreciate it, thank you for the call.
I wish I had a better answer. I mean, I
I just I just don't you know you you wish
more more players would kind of see it that way.
But then again, this is their time too, you know,
that second contract is their moment, their time to get
what's there for them, and and they've earned it. So

(22:03):
it's kind of hard to say, don't don't take that,
don't take the bag when it's standing, you know, staring
him in the face. All right, let's go to John
and Delaware. What's up, John?

Speaker 8 (22:15):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (22:15):
How you doing?

Speaker 12 (22:15):
Nick?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
I'm good?

Speaker 14 (22:18):
Uh, I got a few questions. I'm like the last
the last cop of callers. I'm tired of crowd babies
who uh who constantly got a wine and complaining about
what the cowboys are doing. If you're not a fan,
stay away and let us rebuild our teams, get back
the way. We need to be on top of the
division running the show because I'm not comfortable being down

(22:38):
here with the giant, I really not. I do have
a question for you, though. Is there any truth to
Boone trying to take Allbree to Tennessee?

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Say that again? Bones trying to take who to Tennessee Allbree?

Speaker 14 (22:54):
So I heard a while back. I don't know if
it's take news or what, but I heard that that
Bone sponsors could possibly try to take all breed Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Got it? That would be tampering. Uh he's under contract.
He's under contract, and yeah he he has another year.
So so no, you can't do that now. Anger the
punter is a free agent. Uh, Siege the Snapper, he's
a free agent, and Turpin is a restricted free agent.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
C J.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Goodwin I believe is a free agent. So I have
a feeling, Uh, somebody's gonna be playing for the Titans
this year, somebody that we know. Uh, that would not
surprise me at all. But it won't be Aubrey this year,
unless there's a trade or anything like that. But I
don't see that. I hope it's not Turpin either, but

(23:46):
that that one is interesting. He's gonna you have to
put a tender on him. You're gonna put a first
round tender. They're not doing that. They could put a
second round tender, which is about five million dollars per year,
well one year, five year, five million dollar contract, and
if you someone signed him, then then you get a
second round pick. And I don't think Tennessee's gonna do

(24:08):
that because they have the number one pick in the
second round, so it would be this, you know, thirty
third overall pick. They're not doing that for for Turpin.

Speaker 14 (24:16):
I got you.

Speaker 8 (24:17):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 14 (24:18):
You think we have a chance to get each job.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think, yeah, I think there's a chance. I mean,
I look at two screens here. One of them's NFL
Network and they have running draft. Everybody's got their own
mock draft right now, and I see I see him
going a little bit ahead of twelve. Though. We'll see
what happens, you know, when he goes to combine and
Pro Day and he runs and all that kind of stuff.

(24:44):
But uh, there's a shot. I mean, but I have
a feeling that that the top running back in the
draft is probably not going to go to twelve. I
think running backs have made a comeback and and I
just don't think a special running back like him will
last at twelve.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (25:01):
And I saw that thing and that Emmon Smith was
talking about, and then I found out that Evan Swift
had a drinking a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well he was. He was selling uh of tequila, wasn't he.
So I mean, yeah, maybe he maybe he was.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (25:16):
But when he said he doesn't think Cowboys could handle this,
I think this is exactly what we need to shake
up the division.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I agree. I mean, they've got they've got to
draft a running back. They have to draft a young
running back. If it's the first round, then it would
be gent If it's not him, then it would probably
be a second or third rounder. But I think that
you've got to get a quality running back, young, ready
to ready to come in here and play and right

(25:44):
now be a starter.

Speaker 14 (25:45):
And so I'm ready to match the noise because I
know you'd be invited with the Cowboys and a fan
as well. We can't have another season like last year.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
It was tough. I mean it was it was. It
was a tough one because you've got good players, You're
coming off three really good seasons. You expect to be
at that level, and it just wasn't there. And then
and then the depth wasn't there because every time they
had injuries, they just couldn't they couldn't withstand it. So
all right.

Speaker 14 (26:13):
We need to bring I think we need to bring
the class back to the super Bowl because the Eagles
definitely have no class.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
All right, well they never have, so all right, John
appreciate that. Let's go to Dylan in Northport, Florida. Dylan,
what's up, man?

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
How you doing on?

Speaker 8 (26:30):
Nick?

Speaker 15 (26:30):
All right?

Speaker 16 (26:31):
Nice and warm? Down here are you?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm good? Not not nice and warm? Actually warm man,
it's all good.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Well how are you doing doing?

Speaker 12 (26:39):
All right?

Speaker 6 (26:39):
Man?

Speaker 16 (26:40):
I just got a couple of points here. It's just
the Mica stuff real quick, just for context, where everybody
wants to trade on the rams. They offered two first
and a second for Brian Burns twenty two to the Panthers.
I think Micah is obviously a better player. So we're
probably looking at three for and maybe a second or

(27:01):
a third at least. And uh, you're probably gonna get
that if somebody wants to do it from a contender.
That's not going to come from a rebuilding team. So
it's going to come from a team where you're picking
in the twenties. And so we want more geitens Marmazi
Smith or do we want you know, Michael Parsons those
late first round picks or like a it's like throwing
a dart. It's a very hit or mess. So I'm not.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Interested and throw Tyler Smith in there too, to be
to be fair, I mean, like Tyler Smith in that say,
you know, like like he's a two time pro bowler
and an All Pro guard and and that was a
good pick, you know, And that was a pick that
that that a lot of people criticize. A lot of
people thought that was a terrible pick for a guy

(27:41):
that has holding penalties at Tulsa and he's not facing
great competition and you know, he was playing tackle. But
it's another example of these big strong guys that are
playing tackle in college, but they're going to be guards.
They're better at guard, and if you play them at guard,
you have a chance to have in the player. Larry
Allen and Zach Barton could have played and sometimes did

(28:04):
play tackle, but they weren't. They weren't as good as guards.
Leonard Davis, Robert Gallery, Mackai Beck. Then you're just seeing
it over and over again. And I think I think
the kid from Texas, Calvin Banks, is probably going to
be in that boat as well. So but I know
I'm getting off the track here. Your point is, don't

(28:25):
trade Michael Parsons if you're gonna get, you know, back
in first round picks. And most of the time, you know,
it's just hit or miss. They've had success both ways
doing that.

Speaker 16 (28:36):
Yeah, if you told me i'd get three Tyler Smith
caliber players, I'd do it. Yeah, but you probably won't
because this doesn't work out that way.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah. Well that's the thing. And you know, you know
what you're trading. You are trading a really, really good
football player, and and you know he he makes think
about this last two years, Dante Fowler. On the other side,
Dante Fowler, you know kind of revived his career with
the Cowboys, got got five sacks, landed a deal in Washington,

(29:05):
and had even better year Carl Lawson. Now it wasn't
just because of Micah, but I mean Carl Lawson came
in and he had a successful year, you know, reviving
his career. Imagine what a guy that's not in that boat,
a guy that's ready to turn the turn the corner.
What can another guy be with with a star player?
And that's that's kind of what what I would like

(29:28):
to see the Cowboys do is pair him up with
someone else and then.

Speaker 16 (29:32):
Yeah, they got some guys in the draft here that
are really nice edge defenders and interior guys to the
defensive tackle depth is extremely deep in this draft, some
of the best positions. So I think it's looking good
for us to six the middle of that defense and
maybe the D line. My other point I wanted to
talk about here was last week Rob Caldmen talked about
the spending money and all that. I just wanted to

(29:53):
clarify kind of how the cap works. The CBA the
requires teams to spend ninety percent of this dollar cap
over three years twenty twenty four, twenty five twenty six
the CAP's estimated to be like seven ninety five million.
They got to spend like cash money seven hundred and
fifteen million. If they don't do that, they get fined
and the the NFLPA then allocates that money whateverra they're

(30:15):
missing to the players as they see fit. So they
can't just like hoard cash and not spend it. They've
got to spend it. And I think I'm more realistic.
If you have an issue with the front office and
how they do things, I think the more realistic thing
to say is maybe they don't manage the cap as
well as other teams. But a big part of that
is the quarterback contract. Like Shelby mentioned, for con, I
did the same research as he did dec I think

(30:36):
was last year twenty fifteen, the average cap percentage was
eight and a half percent for a super Bowl quarterback
back is twenty four percent. With their restructure this season,
he's thirty three percent right now, So we'll still take
up a quarter of the cap and there hasn't been
a quarterback that's going to the super Bowl. It's that
high of a cap hit, at least in the day
of the IE. Research from twenty fifteen and beyond. So
Mahomes is getting there, but you also see where his

(30:59):
offensive starting to suck too, so and he can't do
it all. I mean, he got to the super Bowl,
but that offense was terrible. There's a bunch of old
geezers on there. So you know, it's just tough. They're
in a tough spot. But I don't think it's fair
to say they're not willing to spend the money. I
just think if you want to question it, it's maybe
how they spend the money. Like the Zeke deal wasn't great.
They kind of got bullied into that. They pay for
him years after he's gone. Michael Gallup, same thing. So

(31:20):
that's my issue sometimes is maybe the deals they give
out to the wrong players. Jalen Smith was kind of
got paid early, it was a friendlier deal, but it
still hurt them in the long run. So just the
thought I had did a little research and just wanted
to put it out there for everybody.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Thanks thanks for the call, and
thanks for that research, because Dylan, you're right, it's those
second contracts and when you look back the last ah
what two years, though I can count five or six
restructures of those guys, who has actually lived up to

(31:55):
the contract extension we're talking about. I remember being at
camp MALIEK. Cooker got the got a got a new deal,
Trayvon Diggs, Terrence Steele. You could probably throw Donovan and
Wilson in that might have been from the year before
Dak CD. I'm I'm I could be missing somebody. But

(32:19):
but those guys right there, well, who's who's actually played
to that level? You You wouldn't say dak of course
nine sixty million a year and he got hurt and
they weren't playing well even before that. So certainly not
that Terrence Steele, No, MALIEK. Cooker, No, not really. Trayvon Diggs,
now he got hurt too. I mean, like so some
of it's not their fault, but I'm just saying they're
not living up to now c D. Yeah, CD had

(32:41):
had a great year last year. Played you know, he
he did everything you would want to kind of earn
that kind of deal. Played, played hurt as long as
he could, you played through a lot of pain and
played well. So you know, but at one out of six,
that's that's kind that's kind of the problem. And so

(33:02):
and you guys talking, and there's a lot of people
that say, you know, you can get to one hundred
million or seventy five million or whatever you can by
extending some some contracts. But I just mentioned all of
them that you could that you could do. Do you
want to extend those? Do you want to extend the
Terrence Steel deal, Trey von Diggs, Malie Cooker, Do you
want to do that? I mean, I don't think you do.

(33:23):
So it's not as easy as you think to get
to that number, because that's that's part of the problem
you've been in the first place. So anyways, let's got
a break here on Cowboys storyline. We'll be right back
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(35:38):
five five two two nine seven. He can text the show.
It gives something else that Chris can look at here
eight one seven two nine zero three two nine to eight.
Don't have a lot of text, uh credit, it's hard.
It's hard enough to get all these these phone calls in.
So but yeah, if you have a you have a
great text, go ahead and do that. Let's go to Tony.
He's in Alexandria. Virginiabody just moved to Dallas. Y, So

(36:01):
I did, Nick am I on? You were on What's Up? Tony?

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (36:05):
So formerly of Alexander, Virginia. I told you last time
that we were moving to the Metroplex, and I had
you and Chris kind of see if you could guess
what suburbvised in at the beginning with the F and
neither of you got it. So have you had time
to think of what suburb I'm in now?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
It starts with an F. Correct, that's that Frisco?

Speaker 12 (36:26):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Is it Fate Texas?

Speaker 12 (36:30):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Where where is it? Sorry? It's fair fair of you, okay,
because people in Alexandria, Virginia that you left behind that
I don't really care. There's like, he lives in Dallas.
He lives in Dallas. That's where. That's where. That's what
he says.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I know, all right, And so get used to this.

Speaker 18 (36:44):
One day it's eighty, the next day it's thirty.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, you know. Yeah, it's kind of like cowboy fans. Really,
you know, cowboy fans is like the weather here, you know,
it's trade Mica. One day, it's like, I think this
team can go to the Super Bowl. It's you know,
it's it's it's up and down. It's a roller coaster
life here in Dallas, all.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Right, Yeah, as far as the weather.

Speaker 18 (37:05):
So so really, I think I caught the tail end of, uh,
what you're saying before you went to break And I
think you're talking about contracts and maybe players, certain players
living up to their contract after they signed a second one?

Speaker 12 (37:19):
Was I am I on the right hauf about that?

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (37:22):
And I mean, in my opinion.

Speaker 18 (37:24):
Going back, like you said, the only one I can
think of is Ceedee Lamb. I mean going back to
like the Marcus Warrence and some of those, they just
like they'll they'll be in one game where they get
like a couple of good stats and everything stopping the
run or what have you, and then they disappear for
like four games. This was like, okay, like where are
these players after we signed them to the big, huge contracts?

(37:45):
And yeah, it's just it's just not a good look
for us to, you know, sign players like that and
then they're not giving us, you know, the bang for
the buck after we sign them for that second contract.
And my question to you is, so in this coming draft,
if you had to go offense, and you might have
been asked this before, but I can't remember. If you

(38:07):
had to choose between wide receiver and running back, which
one would you go. I'm still saying wide receiver because,
like I said on other past calls I've done, is
I don't think our wide Receiver Corp Has been the
same sense of Mark Cooper left and granted I get
why they let him go and all that stuff, I
just don't to this day feel they accurately replaced him

(38:30):
with the talent that you know that Amari Cooper had.
So yeah, and if that was the case, then our
Receiver Corps might have been a little bit better than
what it's meant the last several years. So anyways, with
that all, hang up, and I love the show. It
is getting hard to call on, but I'll keep.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Trying, buddy, all right, Thanks, Tony, appreciate that, Tony from
now Fairview, Texas. Yeah. The tricky part about the Amari
Cooper chase and and CD is I remember it was
told to me that that people in the building feel
like CD will blossom without Amari here, like that he's

(39:11):
ready to take that next level. And from a money standpoint,
they feel like they've got a better Amari Cooper here
with CD, let's spend that money elsewhere, which is what
they did, you know, they they they did that. They
they got three or four players with that money. One
of them was Dorence Armstrong the first time they re
signed him, and that was a pretty good, you know

(39:33):
pick up there and some other players. Another one was
James Washington, the receiver that didn't work out, you know,
obviously got hurt and stuff, but so that that was
a money moved there. And but but you're right about
they really haven't had that that one two punch. Now,
Brandon Cooks was supposed to be that guy, and I
think at the end of last season he was. He

(39:54):
was playing that way. I think with with with Cooks
and CD, that was pretty dynamic there, but it didn't
happen this year. And Jalen Tolbert's tough to figure out.
I mean, he's he has some moments where you know,
he has some nice plays, I mean, led the team
in touchdown catches. I still think most people would look
at him and say, you know, as a third, you know,

(40:16):
like everyone's fine with him being the three. They wont
another number two. To answer your question about receiver, versus
running back. You know it, I think I think I
would just looking at this draft, I don't know if
there's the receiver there at twelve that I would I
would take. I don't I don't think so I would

(40:38):
take a back. But just you know, it's just just one.
You just got one option there. I'm just not as
as sold on going to get a receiver right now.
I understand the importance of a second one, but I
think maybe maybe free agency or maybe a little later
in the draft. But you know that that gets kind

(40:59):
of tough too. I think with with Tolbert going in
his fourth year, I think he's got to be your
number two. I mean, I just think that's that has
to happen here from the Caps standpoint. All right, let's
go to Sheriff Lonnie. He's in Kansas. What's up. How
are you doing?

Speaker 6 (41:17):
Oh? Just freezing? But other than that, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, same. I know you're a retired sheriff, but I
like to just I like to just call you the
sheriff and just feel like you're still, you know, kind
of patrolling the area there on on your watch.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
Well, I kind of do. That's kind of what I do.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I mean, are you ever are you ever really a
retired sheriff? You know, you're always the sheriff.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Right, Yeah, now I have it. I still keep up
with everything going on. My son's the sheriff's deputy in
the next county over.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Oh nice, And so he's always.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Calling me and and we still talk about law enforcement
stuff plus the Cowboys, and we argue every day about
Micah Parsons. Yeah, and I say, you gotta keep it,
you know, you know what, can I tell a story?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
One time? One time I was driving and I got
pulled over because I was going too close to the
car in front of me. I don't agree with that.
Whatever I got pulled over. Guy's telling me why he
looks at my license. He's a huge cowboy fan. We
start talking and I'm kind of in a hurry, obviously
because I'm you know, I was driving past. We start

(42:30):
talking for ten minutes and I got out of the ticket.
But you know, before I know it, he's he's there
on the right side, you know, because the of the
of the car. You know, he's not gonna get hit
by their cars traffic, and he's asking about Zeke and
if Zeke's gonna sign a contract and all this kind
of stuff, and I'm just sitting there like, yeah, yeah,
maybe so anyways, it's cool when I think about you

(42:51):
being a cowboy fan. I think about that really nice
officer who did pull me over, but he let me
go after ten minutes of talking cowboys.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
It was cool.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
That's cool.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Happy I I But now I I think you I
tell my son you got to keep you got to
keep you you don't. I mean, if you try to
take draft picks, you're just guessing on whether they're going
to be good or not. Yeah, period, I mean you
got you know what you've got in Micah Parsons, and

(43:21):
uh I think I think a lot of the callers
are the same way.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Just you just have to keep.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
My other thing is is the thing I'm asking is
franchise tag. Do you think they'll tag anybody at all
this year? I don't And uh no.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I don't think so at all. Oh so would be
I mean twenty four millions? I mean one year deal.
I can't say that one.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
That's what I was just curious on what your thought
was mine. I'm on the fence. Yeah, I don't know,
but you got you gotta think about a little bit
about what you're paying them, yeah, uh and what they're
gonna get.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
So well, all right, Sheriff, thanks thanks for the call. Lonnie. Uh.
I'll say this though, this kind of goes back to
the last two callers, uh, Dylan and Tony. You know,
you talked about Osa and do you resign him? And
you look at the success that they've had and or

(44:30):
haven't had with these with these players on this next
contract and knowing what it's going to be, you know,
it's it's it's tough, I mean, And then I always
go back to the Dorrance Armstrong thing. What if they
would have resigned Durrance Armstrong last year for fifteen million
fifteen million a year and he got five sacks, six sacks.

(44:51):
I mean, he had a pretty good season in Washington,
but it wasn't, you know, earth chattering. But for fifteen
million a year, I mean, I think it would be
as a disappointment, you know. So, and and I like
Osa a lot. I just I just don't see a
ton of games where he's just changing the game and

(45:13):
that kind of money. I mean, you just expect an
Aaron Donald type situation and it wouldn't be I not
that I not that I know, but I'll say this
talking to matt Eberflews yesterday and he, you know, he
was a little uncomfortable talking about a lot of you know,
players and stuff because it's there's still a lot of

(45:33):
questions to be answered there and decisions and those aren't
really his decisions, but he's going to be asked, what
do you think of these guys? This guy, And it
was very clear he loves the play of osa Odigi
Zuo like he he's a big, big fan. So if
it works for him to come back and whatever, it's

(45:57):
going to be one of the reasons's going to because
mattyberflu says, we got to have this guy, this guy,
you know, he really really likes him a lot, so
you know, and and and I understand that most most
coaches would, but at that price, you know, it's it's tough.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
It's like, you know, kids love the toys, they love
all the toys, but for the money and how much
it is, I don't even think about that that kind
of stuff. And not that Maddieberflus doesn't know that he's
been head coach. He understands the business side of it.
But but so he loves the player, but at that price,
it's going to be it's going to be a challenge
for him. All right, let's go to Armando. He's in
Mexico City. Good, how are you doing?

Speaker 8 (46:38):
Fine?

Speaker 19 (46:39):
Thanks? A little bomuse still because of the Super Bowl,
but you know, yeah, I hope it has a silver
lining that makes Jerry and the front.

Speaker 13 (46:49):
Office wo change their ways a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
So maybe see what what kind of ways are you
hoping they change? Be specific free agency.

Speaker 19 (47:00):
Yeah, a little bit more outside free agency, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I think they will. I think they'll sign more players
from the outside than than they have in the past.
I believe that. I've said it several times. I think
that you have to sign a lot. You have twenty
five free agency, You're going to have to sign some
and I think they're going to pick more from the
outside teams than their own. That's what I believe. But

(47:25):
that doesn't mean they're going to be super aggressive and
have press conference type you know, signings where they hold
the jersey up and all that. I'm not saying that
we'll see a lot of that, but I'm hoping for one,
give me one splash move. That's what I'm hoping about.

Speaker 16 (47:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (47:42):
So anyway, Nika, you know, they have just announced a
few days ago that the Steelers are going to play
in Ireland next year. So I was wondering what's your
opinion on international games, because I've seen a lot of
fans that are not really very pleased with that, especially
games in Europe and Brazil and now maybe Australian this

(48:04):
year because of the long flights and the time change,
and not so much of Mexico and Kindada games. But
of course I'm biased since I'm here, but what's your
opinion on that. A lot of people don't like it
because they say they take away a game from their
own team locally or you know, I mean, after all,
the Super Bowl champions crowned the World champions. I was

(48:27):
just wondering about that.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, I know that they've made some rule changes, thanks
for the call, Armando. They've made some changes to that
over the years, I think since the last time the
Cowboys played. Of the rules on you have to give
up one of your home games too, and that's always
been the case, you give up a home game to
go play over there. But you know, they've asked teams

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to give up games their own home games, so they
could go play, and you know, the Cowboys never wanted
to do that. And you know, to be honest, a
lot of teams don't want to give up their Cowboy
game because it's it's going to be their best, you know,
best game of the season as far as he's selling
it out. You know, that's I know, Carolina was in

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that situation a couple of times, you know, and even
though they know that there'll be a lot of Cowboy
fans that buy those tickets. But you know, so some
of these teams don't don't want to give up the
Dallas game. That's why. Maybe it's been eleven years now
since the Cowboys have played over overseas and went to
London of course twenty fourteen against Jacksonville. But you know

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my thoughts, you know, personally, I mean, yeah, I'm for it,
you know, I'd like to I'd like to see it.
I'm kind of surprised they haven't played in Mexico, you know,
since since they've been playing a lot of games over there.
But I think there is an option. I think there.
I don't know if they've announced the Mexico games. I
think there is a chance the Cowboys, I guess could
play one of the games in London this year the

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Jets is is on the schedule. The Jets have one
of the games, so uh, you know, and maybe maybe
that's that's a situation that would make sense, you know.
I mean that area. The Cowboys are already there once
once a season with the Giants, so maybe that that
would make sense. Who knows, you know, I'm I'm if
they do it, I'm all for it, and I think that,

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you know, there'll be a lot of a lot of
good crowds there if the Cowboys wherever they go, if
if they go overseas. All right, let's go to Brian
in Kansas City.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
Hey, good morning, sir.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
How you doing, Brian.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. Glad to be
able to talk to you today.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Sure, what's up? What's on your mind?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, so, a couple of things. So I will make
the argument for trading Micah so because nobody else has right.
So my argument is he is, and I've been saying
it for two years, he's too small for the position
he's playing. He has never played at that very top
level through an entire year. In the years before life asked,

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he always he couldn't get to the quarterback. At the
end of the season, he could get pressure, but he
couldn't get sacks.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
And then last year, obviously he missed.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Quite a bit of the season. I've been saying it
since he came in and they tried to make a
defensive end out of him. He's just too small for
that position. He's not going to stand the test of time.
That would be my argument for getting rid of him.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I understand how hard it is to find a guy
who can get you twelve to fourteen sacks consistently every year,
but when the chips are down, it's not helped us.
So that's my argument for that. And I would want
you know that there was a story out. I don't
know who wrote the story, but they said that they

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entertained the idea for a king's ransom. It would have
to be that it have to be two ones and
to two, you know, something absolutely insane. But that would
be my argument for that. My questions for you this
week are I have two questions for you. So, based
on the new coaching staff and what I've been reading,

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it sounds to me like they value an offensive linemen,
they value athleticism more than just grout strength. Based on that,
could this maybe help Guiden and Steal because those are
the that's the kind of guys they are. They're not
the they're not maulers, but they're very athletic, and I'm

(52:28):
wondering if that might help them.

Speaker 8 (52:30):
So.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And then my other question is, I got this is
my guest, but I wanted your opinion.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I don't think they're going to sign osa of our guys.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
Who do you think they will?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
And my hope is that it'll be jaylu I hope
that's the guy we get. I'll hang up and listen. Brother.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Good to talk to you, all right, good to talk
to you too, Brian, thank you for the call. I
think Jordan Lewis, you know, there's a reason why he
continues to get that one year deal. Maybe it'll be
more this year. Maybe someone else you know, will will
will pay for him. You know, you got to you
gotta remember this. You've got you know some coaches now

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in the league that are You've got head coach in Washington,
you got a head coach in in New Orleans now,
you know in Kellen Moore that were a part of
these teams, this this group, this unit here from the
last to three seasons. So they know these guys and

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and they know Jordan Lewis, and they know Rico Dabble,
and they they know Osa and and you know, just
like we saw with Washington before. So I think that
there's gonna be you know, and you've got Tennessee, You've
got a coordinator there, and John Fossil when it comes
to special teams players, and he knows the roster there
as well. And so my point is is that what

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was it two three years ago that twenty twenty one
team or twenty you know, twenty twenty two. Uh, you've
got you know, you you've got all of the coordinators
that were there, Kellen Moore and and and obviously John
Fossil and and Dan Quinn all of them are now
with other teams and in positions to to make some decisions.

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So I could see it being tough to resign some
of these guys.

Speaker 11 (54:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
I think Jordan Lewis is the is the is the
one that would make the most sense. I guess what
I'm trying to say is is that there's been a
lot of perception on him that maybe he's too small
or to play that position. But he keeps doing it
every year. And now there's other guys that know him,
know what he is in the locker room, that maybe
try to sign him as well. All right, let's go

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to Irwin in Colorado.

Speaker 13 (54:41):
Hey, Nick, good morning, How are you good?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (54:46):
I just wanted to touch on a couple of things. I
called in yesterday and was able to get into talking cowboys.
And you know, I got heckled a little bit because
I told him I was a storyliner. But it was
all in fun. But I had they had been talked about, Uh,
Kyle kind of gave me a little harassment, you know,

(55:06):
And you know it was it was all funny, you know.
I just told him that, you know, I'm regular with
you and and stuff. You know, it was it was
pretty fun. But anyway, we were talking. They were talking
about Michael Parsons and a few other things, and uh,
you know, they had mentioned, uh, you know, the possible
uh contract extension when that was going to happen, and

(55:29):
if they were to do it soon enough that maybe
they might be able to do some things in free agency.
And then when I spoke with them, I told him,
you know, if we've learned anything from Jerry Jones is
he likes to delay these contracts. And you know, the
history is proven that. And you know, if he or
the Cowboys wait till like braining Camp or further to

(55:51):
get that contract done, you know we've seen this all before.
There's not going to be you know, any time at
that point to really go after somebody big time to
help him on.

Speaker 12 (55:59):
The other side.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Well er, I mean, let me just say this though.
I mean, I think I think with everything, you have
to be fair, you know. I think the Cowboy we
just got done talking about how the Cowboys have not
had great success with these second contracts. They're paying guys
and then the next that they're not performing to the
standard of the new contract. And you're saying that, do

(56:24):
you think Jerry and Steven and then wait too long? Well,
why do you think they're waiting long? I mean why
why don't I mean, do you think that they are
just signing the the you know, signing them to the
deal you know that they could have gotten six months ago.

Speaker 13 (56:38):
I mean, like, I don't think that's the case. I
just think that when you have a proven player in
Micah's caliber, I think they should you know, really do
the everything they possibly can to get something done with
this guy. I mean, look what they did with CD
last year. They waited till the very last moment. They
did the same thing with Dak Prescott. I'm just thinking,

(56:59):
when you have a player of like Micah's caliber, why wait,
so you know late in the problem.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Here's why, Here's I'll just I'll answer that. Here's why
that got a sixty million dollar contract. Sixty million it
was right before the start of the season. Well, that, yeah,
he could have signed him. He could have signed him
in August at sixty five million, could have signed CD
as well. Seed, he could have been there in the
entire camp instead of thirty four, it's going to be
thirty seven. I mean, they didn't want to do that.

(57:26):
They didn't want to pay for that, and that's what
these agents know. So with my point with Micah, he
says he's gonna you know, they're going to get a
you know, a good deal and a fair deal and
all that. But what's the number at now? You know,
if you sign him right right now, well, while the
Cowboys have a little bit more leverage. So that's that's

(57:47):
that's the problem. I don't think the Cowboys are just
waiting to get around to it. I think they're trying
to get that price down to a more comfortable level.

Speaker 13 (57:57):
So yeah, I mean, that's that's smartly, that's the way
to do it. But the other thing I want to
ask you was I pushed back on Isaiah a little
bit yesterday because he said, he made a comment about
the Cowboys over the last few years have learned from
other teams success, and you know, he referenced the Philadelphia Eagles,

(58:17):
the forty nine ers, Kansas City Chiefs, and I just
kind of pushed back on him. I said, you know,
they may have learned, and I'm not really sure they
have because they really haven't acted on what they you know,
what he was saying that they had learned from what
they had how they have been so successful, because you know,
we just haven't seen that the last what twenty nine
years to get to the point where I think he

(58:38):
was kind of talking about, you know, getting to the uh,
you know, a championship game or the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah. Well, and and and what what is your point
again on that that that that they from teams.

Speaker 13 (58:52):
Well, they may have learned, but they certainly haven't acted
on it. Yeah, I don't think they, you know, so,
I mean anybody can learn something, but are they gonna
apply what they've learned? Yeah, I don't really think that
they have so ue.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
No I I I hear you. You know, when it comes,
thanks for the call. When when it comes. And I've
said this, I said last week, when when it comes
to the Eagles specifically, the Eagles are drafting better right now.
That that's what it is. They they've drafted better. I
know a lot of the talk is is on free agency,
and that's that's true, but they have also done a

(59:32):
really really good job uh drafting and and so in
all in all ways, I mean, the their their team,
their their roster is you know, it's not just the
the Saquon Barkley edition or a J. Brown. I mean
it's it's uh Bond or you know, Zach Bond. I
mean the linebacker that they just thought could could be

(59:55):
a good middle linebacker, you know. And then they've drafted
well with those defensive backs that that that play well.
So you know, the Cowboys have had some good draft picks,
you know, late first round we said Tyler Smith and
you know Darn Bland obviously was a great pick. And
and all that, but but there hasn't been a ton
of those lately. And it's you start looking at the
last couple of years. You know, you look at those

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second rounders, those third rounders, and they've been okay players,
but they haven't been the difference makers. And and that's
that's where I think the Cowboys have definitely taken a
step by step back. So you know, everybody's going to
try to draft, well, I just think the last few
years the drafts have have gone off. And when when
that is your bread and butter, when that is what

(01:00:37):
you're doing and you're relying on that only then and
not free agency, then you're gonna be in trouble. I mean,
there's there's you know, there's no way other way around it.
You know, if your only way to work is your car,
and your car starting to break down, then you're gonna
be in trouble. So that's kind of what what's happening here.

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go back to the calls here on Cowboys storyline eight
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The two lines are filled right now. So let's go
to Chris. He's in San Angelo.

Speaker 12 (01:02:49):
Chris, mister Nick didn't finally talk to you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (01:02:55):
Doing real well? I hope you're doing good too, my friends. Sure, Okay, Hey,
I was going I was gonna ask something about the
OSA thing, but that would just be repetitive, so I
chose a different topic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Well, would you sign him? I mean, I'll just throw
it back to you. Would you sign O?

Speaker 12 (01:03:14):
Twenty? North of twenty is a little rich for me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Let's just say five one hundred, just simple math?

Speaker 12 (01:03:21):
Okay, well five a maybe not. I mean, like you said,
I don't see any I don't see him becoming Aaron
Donald anytime soon. But if he can, if he can
come in and come in for a cool maybe fifteen,

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then you know, then we'll talk, however realistic that is.
But anyway, where where else.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
I was gonna go.

Speaker 12 (01:03:53):
First of all, I have to say I saw a
series going on that you apparently had a pretty big
hand in and this one, this part of it was
involving Dave Campo and uh, now I can't remember the
name of it, but uh, you were definitely involved in it.

(01:04:14):
And anyway, I just had to share one time back
in the day, me and a bunch of guys used
to always head to Saint Edwards for the training camp,
really hot place by the way, and I actually got
to I was standing at this ramp, probably where I
wasn't supposed to be, and uh, but nobody told me

(01:04:37):
to move. I actually saw coach Campo walking down. He
was the d C, I think, and he uh, what, no, no, no, no,
this was this was at training camp. Yeah, and uh
and so I saw him and I said, hey, Coach,
I said, uh, where where do you think this Where

(01:04:58):
where's the super Bowl to be? He goes, oh, it's
going to be in Arizona and I said, well, we'll
see you there and then he said, well we're going
to give it a try, and he shook my hand.
Ever since then, I've loved Dave Campbo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
So I just wanted to even through all the two
thousand and two and two thousand and one seasons and
all that. That wasn't his fault.

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
But it was not his fault. I mean, he got it.
He got a raw deal, I think. I mean he's
a coordinator obviously, so yeah. But anyway, I just wanted
to share that because I watched that and that was
that was good stuff. Where I'm where I'm moving on
to now, I'm trying to get a concrete timetable, do

(01:05:44):
you know, as far as the timetable for overshown and
digs next year kind of where that is looking at
where that's at. I'm just I've heard different things, so
I'm just trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Well, well, okay, thanks, thank you for the call, Chris, Hey,
here's anything else? All right, have a good one. Good
talking to you. As always. The thing about why you're
hearing different things is because different people have different injuries.
Nobody has the same injury. Not one player has the same. Well,

(01:06:21):
this is exactly like what this guy had. Now the
trainers will tell you, yeah, I mean the they go
off of the you know, history, and they can say,
all right, with with this player, we had this, and
I think with overshown. Uh, I'm trying to I'm getting
my my players mixed up. I know Connor Williams. I

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think Connor Williams actually had the same injury as Trayvon
Diggs and you know, and it was able to come
back and and relatively early. Now I don't know if
if Digs will be in the same level there. You know,
over shown that that's one that it's hard to say.

(01:07:04):
It's hard to bet against him. You know, he's he's
he thinks he'll be back to start training camp. I
would think PUP makes sense for both of them. And
what that means is they will be they will be
put on that list that the first day of training camp,
and that that allows them to go at least four

(01:07:24):
weeks into the season on PUP and and they don't
have to make a decision to bring them off the roster.
They won't count on the fifty three. But you have
to do that the first day of training camp. Now,
you do that the first day of training camp, and
after the first week they're ready to go. Then then
then they come off of it. They have to be
put on the ninety man roster, which is fine. You
have ninety guys. You can make a spot for him

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and no problem at all, But you have to make
that decision. But at the start of camp, and I
would be surprised, I'd be shocked if Digs and over
Overshown are not on that list. We'll see how far
that goes, you know, into the season, if they if
they're able to come back before that. A lot of
that's going to depend on them. And I think with

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with Diggs and with Overshown, I would love for them
to work out together because I think I think with Overshown,
I think he'll he'll help anybody got, you know, get
get to where they want to go quicker, because that's
just how he's driven for sure. All right, let's go
to Chuck D's in Bridge City, Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:08:28):
Nick, what's up, man?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
How are you?

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
All right, what's up?

Speaker 20 (01:08:34):
Took me a little bit to get on with you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
It's been a while.

Speaker 20 (01:08:36):
It's just, uh, you know how it goes this time
of year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, this once a week stuff. It's hard.
It's hard. Everybody's trying to get in here. All right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
Yeah, what you got, Chuck, Here's what I got.

Speaker 20 (01:08:48):
In light of seeing like Kellen Moore Quinn be scooped up.
Who in the past have you seen and you're like,
you know, once he got his job, You're like, wow,
we really had him and he slipped away. Of course
it would probably be Tom Peyton, but I was gonna
say somebody like seeing Scott Lenahan when he left that hurt,

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because man, he sure did help that offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah, I can't remember where Scott Lenahan went. Are you
talking about Bill Callahan?

Speaker 20 (01:09:21):
I'm sorry, Bill, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I remember Lenahan doing a lot where you're like, what, no, Callahan? Yeah, yeah,
running game Moses has brought us and I used to
call him because he could. I mean they wherever he
went and they ran the ball. But yeah, yeah, I
mean it happened Sean and even Sean Payton, Like you

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had Bill Parcells. I mean, you're you're not gonna I mean,
it was time for him to get a head coaching up,
but you're not gonna. You're not gonna like let Parcels go,
you know, I mean that's just kind of that's part
of it. I mean on that staff that two thousand five, uh,
a staff that Parcels had. I think he had seven

(01:10:05):
coaches that became a head coach at some point, you know,
from from Tony's Perano to Todd Hayley to Anthony Lynn.

Speaker 8 (01:10:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
So I'm just saying Sean Payton was was on there.
Uh And there's others too, I can't remember all of them,
but but I mean my point is that he had
a really good staff and so that and and this
you can make the same case with with Quinn. I mean,
you know, yes, that they could have let McCarthy go
after three straight twelve and five seasons and keep Quinn.

(01:10:37):
That would have been that would have been interesting. But
you know, look at it now, you're like, yeah, yeah,
that's probably what they should have done. But in hindsight,
I don't know if if that's if that's good business,
I'm not sure.

Speaker 20 (01:10:49):
Yeah, and I know circumstances didn't work out. But just
as a fan, you're like, dang, we had that guy
in the building and now look at him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah and.

Speaker 20 (01:10:57):
Campbell right, Uh, Campbell coach here at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
In the coach with the Cowboys. He didn't coach with
the cow He's he could have. But yeah, but you know,
you can make that case. And we'll see with Kellen
if the Saints turn it around. You know, Sean Payton
style like like Sean Payton, and you're gonna look back
and go yeah, you know, especially because he was interviewed
the same as Schottenheimmer. But this is the route the
cowboys have gone, and we'll see, we'll see what happens. Okay, Nick,

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all right, Chuck, good stuff. All right, let's keep it
going here and staying in Texas for a third traet call.
We got rock Wall Texas Michael's and Rockwall Michael.

Speaker 10 (01:11:34):
Hey, Nick, how are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Man? How are you good? Good?

Speaker 10 (01:11:39):
I just wanted to call and just a couple of
quick points because I think the big talking heads on
the big networks and have gotten to some of our fans,
and they just don't seem to remember that there was
conversations about signing Dak early, and Dak's a changed and

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they didn't want to do a deal right away, and
there was a want to wait on their side, on
the first contract side of thing, and on the second side,
you know, to your point, Dak was trying to reset
the market, not by a million or two, but he
ended up signing a contract for five million dollars more
than the next average salary per year of the next

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closest quarterback. And he didn't want to give them the
extra year to play with a fifth year, even though
they were giving him an extra five million a year.
So in hindsight, with what happened last year, you could
make the argument that Jerry didn't wait long enough and
he should have let this play out into free agency,
because I'm not sure anyone else would have paid that

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sixty million, especially if he had gotten hurt last year
and came off the injury. CD same thing. CD wanted
to wait until after this wide receiver market got set
and the big dog got paid in Minnesota and he
was so he could set his own mind. He wasn't
going to sign any earlier than that, So I just
wanted people to remember that part. And then finally, for Micah,

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I'm with a caller that talked earlier today. I love
Michael Parsons. I think he does a great, great job
at his size two hundred and thirty five two hundred
and thirty eight pounds rushing mostly using speed and quickness
to get around these guys at weigh one hundred pounds
more than him in most cases, but it does wear
on you throughout the year. He's a liability in the

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run game. He cannot. If you run right at him,
you just buldoze him out of the way. He cannot.
He's not effective in the run, he's undersized for the position.
I'm not sure paying somebody that's a linebacker playing out
of position thirty five plus million dollars a year is
the right investment for a team that's already paying what
they're paying so and the reason why is no team

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in NFL history has ever had three players over thirty
million on their roster. I just thinking, right to find
the way to have depth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Right, Well, I don't I don't love I don't love
that stat. I think I think a percentage of the
cap and you stay and you might be right there,
a percentage of the cap that should be a better
stat that they've never had three players over thirty Well,
of course not. I mean you know what I mean.
I mean, Deon Sanders set the market at five million
a year at corner back in ninety five. But percentage

(01:14:24):
of the cap, I'd like to see that stat and
you're and and then then that probably still makes makes
perfect sense. Twenty five percent of the cap, then you know,
three guys or whatever it would be. But what is
the cap right now. I don't even remember the number.

Speaker 10 (01:14:41):
I think it's going to be seventy five I think
is the projection for this year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I was thinking it's to eighty, so yeah, something like that.
So two seventy five, so you know that would be
let's say it's two seventy ninety million, ninety million, that's
you know, I mean, you've got, shoot, that's what one
hundred twenty million when you got sixty for for DAK
and then a couple of thirties, thirty five is really
more like seventies. So one hundred and sixty million out

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of two seventy that's that's all I mean. And I
know the structure is different, but at some point you
got to pay the piper. And and that's and that's
so I hear what you're saying. You make great points.
I mean, you make absolutely great points on that of
why they wouldn't I just I just look at it

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like I got a great player, I gotta figure it out.
You have to build around your build around your your
your top players, and they have to figure out how
to play them the right way. We got to get
moving though, Michael, thank you for the call. Good points,
good stuff, there. Let's go to Carolina. He's on the move.
He's in Dallas, Carolina. What's up?

Speaker 8 (01:15:49):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
There? We go there? I might have heard that. I
might've heard that right here. You're in Dallas. What's up?
Be careful on those roads?

Speaker 21 (01:15:58):
Yeah, man, this super super crol. This a little icy,
so yeah, taking it easy?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
All right? Man? What you got We're kind of up
against it. Here is last call? Or what do you got?

Speaker 10 (01:16:06):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Man?

Speaker 21 (01:16:09):
I just wanted to say, Man, I'm excited about the
new running back coach. Yeah, and even talking about you know,
he's being an actual running back. So I'm just fingers
crossed man that we can get somebody to do this.
But I know everybody's like always need a new running back. Well,
of course we do need another running back because we
don't really have nobody proving. I'm just hoping that you know,
something good comes out of this because we're talking about people,

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you know, being a waste of contract. I mean, he's
only got what a year or two left and we
ain't seen nothing out of so I'm just you know,
got my fingers crossed the good love for him and
last thing, can we can we talk about people who've
already been announce for a possible trade, like who a guy,
uh that plays with the boombox boys?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Oh demo is that?

Speaker 8 (01:16:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:16:57):
Already talking about Wow, he's already been shout out that
he can possibly trade to anybody just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Because he's asked for a trade. I've seen that they have. Okay, Yeah,
I mean sure, I mean at that that that happens, Yeah,
I think you could you could talk about it. I mean,
is that a type of player you think would would
help this team?

Speaker 21 (01:17:22):
And that's what I was going to ask you because
I've had I've had a few people say, hey, may
I would be great, and I've seen, you know, a
couple of you know, other shows.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Whatever.

Speaker 21 (01:17:30):
Sure, I'm just up in the air with it because
I'm like, you know, he's getting kind of old. But
I don't know, I don't know if that's something that
we I mean, he's a number two. If we can
hear him at a good price, do you think he
would be worth it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
What I like about his game and the way in
the way San Francisco used him with McCaffrey is I
thought the versatility that that here's a wide receiver that
can play running back and you have McCaffrey, every running
back who can play receiver. You can mix and match
a lot of things that what they're doing, and that
kind of versatility I think, if used the right way,

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can be really really beneficial to your team when you
can have guys and line them up in different spots.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
They do that with CD. Yeah, so, and they do
it with CD. I don't I don't love the fact
that CD runs the ball as much as he does. Yeah.
But again, it's it's tough because you know, you know,
the forty nine ers are are probably going to say,
all right, we've we've used them to what to what
we've used them at and and we feel like he's

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probably not going to be at that level anymore. And
then somebody's gonna take the take the bait, you know,
the last time the forty nine ers traded a player
to the Cowboys and then work out so well. So uh,
I don't know. I mean, it's intriguing, but it also
makes me think he's probably on, you know, on on
the downward slope of his career and and you know,

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depending on what you could get for him if you
want to go that route.

Speaker 21 (01:18:58):
See, my thing is he didn't get a lot of
He didn't get a lot of touches last year, So
it's like it is it because they didn't utilize him,
or is he actually going down? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I know what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
That's that's that's.

Speaker 21 (01:19:11):
Where I'm in my mind.

Speaker 8 (01:19:12):
I'm like, well, maybe I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Played fantasy football and he was on my team and
he was on my bench a lot of times because
he's he was either hurt or just inconsistent, And you know, that's.

Speaker 21 (01:19:24):
Another thing to worry about.

Speaker 8 (01:19:26):
Yeah, is help.

Speaker 21 (01:19:27):
That's definitely a key factor for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
So we'll see, we'll see what happens with that. All right, Carolina,
we got to get rolling. Thanks, thank you for the call,
all you guys, outstanding work. Fifteen calls. Again. I wish
we did it more than once a week, but this
is the way it is, and you guys did a
great job of calling in and giving some good points
and both sides of the spectrum here on this on
this Mica situation. So good good stuff. For sure. We'll

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be back next next next week. Not sure on my
stay tuned to the schedule. There might have to make
a schedule ch change on Wednesday, I'll be at the
Combine in Indianapolis. We'll see if we could maybe switch
up to day, so we'll stay stay tuned for that,
all right. For Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We will
see you next week on Cowboys Storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
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