Cowboys StoryLine: Phrustration

Watching Philly win the Super Bowl has Cowboys fans frustrated at the highest level. So what needs to happen to get to that level?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the
Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Cowboys.

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This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eapman.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
What's up? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It's been a little bit.
February the twelfth is the is the date right now, Wednesday,
February the twelfth. It's been a week. I know you
guys love that, you love going weekly here. But let's see.
Let's see how quickly you can make these calls and
get them in here and see how many we can
get here in about an hour and forty five hour

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and fifteen minutes or so until the Cowboys break comes
on at eleven a m. All right, we've to the
football season is completely over. No more football until training camp.
I know we got the draft, free agency, all that stuff,
but the Super Bowl kind of capped that. You know,
if you're listening to this show and you listen all

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the time, that means you're a die hard Cowboy fans,
and that means you hated the Super Bowl, or I
would think unless you're one of those that didn't want
Kansas City to get the fifth win, and I don't know,
I think Philadelphia holding the trophy in the airs. It's
pretty gross, so I would imagine you didn't love it.
We can talk about it and talk about what it

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means for the cowboys and the cowboys moving forward, how
they can get back to that level or anywhere close
to it. That's what we can talk about it, all right.
Eight A, A, eight, five, five, two two ninety seven
is the numbers to call. Let's go out west Sacramento.
It's pretty early out there, Greg, Sacramento. What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey, how you doing Nick? Good morning?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Good morning? How are you?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm doing well. It's a little old here, but I
got the kids with me. They wanted to say Hi up.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Kids go to schooling too?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, I want to way to school. Yeah, exactly awesome
because I tried to. I tried to college like during
the other times. I didn't try to get off for
like three weeks. But I feel like I've just been
waiting too late to call maybe, so I figured today
I'll call.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Nice and early.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Got your first.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, the first one, and I'm kind of surprised, but anyway,
I had a we have a couple of questions for you,
and uh, actually Benji wanted to ask one, So what
did you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Coach? All right, that's a great question. That's a great question.
All right, Greg, what's your question?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
And then my question is I know you're not a
big draft guy, but I just want to know, like,
what position do you think would be? And I know
we have a lot of needs on the team, but
what position would you like to see?

Speaker 6 (02:42):
I guess I'd like.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
To see the Cowboys draft. And then actually have one
more question.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
How do I get your book?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Don't get your book. I want to get a copy
of your book because I want to bring Benji the
training camp this this upcoming, uh you know, this next year,
and I want to try to get your book signed
and have him be able to meet you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
All right, Well, I'm gonna bring some books to training
camp this year so I'll be able to have some
So that's probably one of the easiest things to do.
So I'll have some there, and you know that won't
look self serving at all, but I'll still I'll bring
some habit and then if I see somebody like I
saw you last year on the fence and all that
and say like hey, I need a book, I can

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go get one and I can do that. So all right, thanks,
Greg take Benja see you later. First question from Benji,
what do I think of the new coach? He's undefeated,
and I and I say that, I'm not really joking
when I say that, like, like, so we're not judging

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off anything other than what we hear and what we
see and and and the stuff that he says. So far,
so good. I like the staff that that he's putting together,
or he's pretty much put together. Seems pretty personable, down
to earth, but also you know, he's motivated and all that.
It all sounds good right now, and I and I

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get it. He's going to continue to impress people along
the way until the season starts, and then then from there,
you know, all bets are off and that's just the
way it goes. Everybody loved Jason Garrett. Everyone loved Jason
Garrett as a player, for that awesome game when he
when he was a player, just the stuff that he
said the offensive coordinator when he was an offensive coordinator,

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he takes over as an interim, Everything was good. And
then you go eight and eight three years in a row,
and everybody changes their opinion. So my point is is,
right now, I like what I'm what I'm hearing and seeing,
but I know it's early, and no one gets judged
on what they do in February and March and April
and all that. Boy position what I draft. You know,

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I don't think they can cover all of their needs
and free agency. They just they're not built that way,
and so unfortunately that they're going to go into the
draft with some pretty big needs. Fortunately, you do have
the twelfth pick and then you get the forty fourth
pick in the second round, so you got you got
some spots where you can, you can you should get
some players early.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I'm I think your offensive line is going to be
needed at twelve. So I'm fine with with one of
those guard tackles there. And I'm fine drafting a tackle
and saying, all right, well so far so it's not
working out with Tyler Geyton. If he changes, you know,
and he gets better, great, but if you can't count
on that at this moment, so I would I would

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draft an offensive lineman. I'd be fine with that. I'd
be fine if an edge rusher was the spot there,
because what I saw from Philadelphia the other night, just
just keep don't trade Micah, give him another, give me
another Micah, and I don't know if that's possible, but
I'm not about trading Micah. I'm about getting more pass rush,
more game wreckers, because that's exactly what happened there. So

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that's all right. Those are those are my three questions there.
Good job, Greg and Benji and the kids are out
in Sacermento. Let's go to Gary and in Mexico.

Speaker 9 (06:02):
I think, Nick, how's it going good?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
How are you doing? Good morning?

Speaker 9 (06:05):
I'm good man. This is the best time of the
year to be a Cowboys fan because we still have hope.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 9 (06:12):
Yeah, let me let me start. Let me ask you
my trivia question for the week, if that's okay, and
then I'll get to this year's team.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
All right, Okay.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Defense.

Speaker 9 (06:22):
Philadelphia's defense dominated that game on Sunday. They did so
in light of that, can you name for me the
four Dallas Cowboy defenders to score touchdowns in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Four that has scored a touchdown in the Super Bowl? Yes? Yeah,
all right, So let's go backwards here, or at least
I think I'm going backwards. James Washington, he scored to
Bowl twenty eight, should have an MVP. I agree with that.
James Washington. Let's see Ken Norton Junior, Jimmy Jones, Yes,

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Jimmy Jones, and then Mike Hagman, Mike super Bowl thirteen,
that's right.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
That's right man. Holly Wood hinders some hell, Terry Bradshaw
and Mike Kegman stripped the ball six. Yeah, And I
think I don't know this for sure, man. I think
Dallas holds the record for most defensive touchdowns in the
Super Bowl, but I don't know that for sure.

Speaker 10 (07:26):
And I will tell you that.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And who should have been the fifth one?

Speaker 9 (07:30):
Who should have been the fifth one? Well, you're talking
about Dallas player to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm talking about a defensive player that that got really,
really really close the score to the touchdown and didn't.

Speaker 9 (07:41):
Is it Larry Brown?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's Leon Less is who I'm talking about.

Speaker 9 (07:45):
Oh yeah, Oh that's embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Should you should ban.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Me from your show?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Because that's what happens when you're like next level, you're
thinking of all the little other ones. You kind of
forget that one or most people have blocked that one out.

Speaker 9 (07:58):
But yeah, that one still hurts me. I really wanted
them to get fifty nine points in that game. I
was mad when that happened, But yeah, you're right, man,
Leon Led How do we forget that? Okay, well, let's
talk about this year's team. You're talking about the draft, man,
for Dallas, just get the best player available. They don't
need the cherry pick stuff. Whoever is the best player
on your board. Just drafting, yeah, and go from there.

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But you saw that with Philadelphia on Sunday. Their defensive
line dominated that football game. And if you go back
and look at Cowboys super Bowl champions, they when they're
winning super Bowls, they have dominant defensive lines. They have
number one picks across the board. That was true with Landry,
that was true with Jimmy Johnson. You got to get
strong in the trenches, man. That the superstars on the

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outside are fun, but if you're not solid up front,
it ain't gonna matter. And what Philadelphia did on Sunday
was just awesome the way they and more power to them, man.
And I'm not mad or upset because the Eagles won
the Super Bowl. My model, the Cowboy fans and the
Jerry and Stevens just go out and do a better job.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Go do a better job.

Speaker 9 (08:59):
Of building team, but you gotta get strong upfront. So
with that amount, what are your thoughts on the defensive
line and how we might be able to get better
in that area moving forward?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know, I think I think to me, it starts
with Micah and I'm I'm not about trading him, I'm
about adding more pieces there. And I think, like they
did two years ago, when it was just how are
these guys gonna all play? You know, Sam Williams and
and Dante Fowler and Doran's armstrong and tank and and

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and of course Micah and you just kind of figure
it out and and and they just stay stay ready,
stay hungry, all that. And then when when that doesn't
happen like this year, and then you're like, all right,
well we're a little bit depleted. And then you keep
getting injuries. Now now you've got a huge problem. So
my point is I'm overloading there. I'm overloading that that

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position with with pass rushers, and you can't have enough.
You just can't have enough. And then and if the
worst problem is is that Sam Williams or Micah tweets
out something like you know, they don't plaint me enough
or I need to play more that's the worst thing.
Then that's fine because then they're pissed off and then
and then they rush the passer even better. So I

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just don't think you can have too many at that position.
And I'm overloading there because that's what Rex games to me.

Speaker 9 (10:23):
Hey, can I can I make one more comment on
that real quick? Of course, on that, A lot of
people complain about Micah and he talks a lot and
makes a lot of noise. Yeah, if you go back
and just look at Cowboys, sister, and this goes all
the way back to the seventies. Man, when they're winning championships,
they have a little bit of crazy on defense. Yeah,
I mean, Hollywood Henderson was a loud mouth show off,
but he backed it up on the field. Charles Haley,

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you know, he was out there a little bit. You
need a little bit of that on defense. You need
a little bit of an edge, And I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with having a little bit of an edge
on that side of the ball. But just go out
and produce.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
So all right, thank you, Nick.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I apprecure it. Yeah, you're right. I mean you can
go to Dion Sanders and you know, I mean Ray
Lewis on with other teams and straight handed, and I
know that everybody's different in their own way. But being vocal,
being loud, being confident, cocky, whatever you want to say,
it swag is. You know that that's part of it too.
And you know the the the Cowboys need a little

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bit they need more of that for sure. So anyways,
good call, thanks for the trivia question, and let's go
to Brian in Kansas City. Brian, what's up?

Speaker 11 (11:35):
Good morning, mister Eatman. How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
How are you doing?

Speaker 11 (11:39):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 12 (11:40):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
Glad to be off for the day and get a
chance to talk to Chris and you. And here here
what Cowboys Nation has to say about the Eagles? What
is that there?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
How's it going? How's it going in Kansas City?

Speaker 11 (11:56):
I think you know the answer to that, sir.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean seriously, though, is it like, oh my god,
I can't believe this happened? Or is it still? I mean,
is like when you don't win a third straight? I
mean you still you still have enough to hang your
hat on a little bit.

Speaker 11 (12:10):
Well, so you know, the culture here is Kansas City
is kind of a smaller city. You know, it's it's
not New York, it's not La it's not Chicago, so.

Speaker 12 (12:23):
It's a little bit more of a smaller city feel.

Speaker 11 (12:26):
So when something like that happens, it's just crushing, you know,
it's just just soul crushing. Like really, we got like
we didn't even play competitively, you know, you know, as
a Cowboys fan, I'm like, yeah, I feel your pain.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah it happens, yeah.

Speaker 11 (12:40):
Yeah, so but yeah it it was nobody and I
don't think anybody in the sporting world. I knew that
the Eagles were really, really, really good in the trenches.
Maybe they have the best offensive and defensive lines right now.
And I didn't see it coming. And I you know,

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I've been watching football for decades and decades, and I
just thought, Mahomes is Mahomes and somehow he's gonna pull
a rabbit out of his hat.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, I agree, I thought so.

Speaker 12 (13:12):
So all right, what do you got, Bran, Well, so
think thinking that through. What I was wondering is, you know,
listening to all the draft shows and all the people
that do that for a living and analyze people. Well,
I think, well, this is kind of what I'm looking for.
But it comes with a question. So I think, you know, getting.

Speaker 11 (13:35):
Better in the trenches absolutely their way to go. In
listening to all those experts, what I've heard is defensive
line is a little on the deeper side. Offensive line
not so much this draft. So I'm kind of guessing that,
you know, outside of you know, maybe Genti falls to us,
I don't really think he's gonna fall that part. To

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be honest with you, I know running backs don't traditionally
go real high, but I don't think he's gonna make that.
I don't think he'll be there at twelve.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
But.

Speaker 11 (14:04):
I'm kind of hoping for defensive line. My question for
you is and and unfortunately two of the guys I
would like are both Michigan defensive linemen, which would probably
give Cowboys their aneurism. But my question to you is
you've been in that organization a long time, and it's
true across all pro professional sports football. When when they

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make a mistake, when there's a you know, uh, you know,
they we made a mistake, how hard is it for
an organization to refocus and say we're going to draft
that same position again.

Speaker 13 (14:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
No, No.

Speaker 11 (14:45):
In this case, the defensive line is the ones that
that's deeper. I think we have a better chance at
replacing Mazi Smith and you know, just how hard would
it be in the year. But he's he only played
two years, but not well you know, And I'm not
saying he can't be a professional, but I think he's
probably are just a rotational guy. Yeah, what are they

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are they ready to make? You know, just how hard
is it your opinion in that organization to say we
made a mistake. We're going to move on, all right.

Speaker 12 (15:17):
And I love you brothers.

Speaker 11 (15:20):
Enjoy the day, sir, I have a good day.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
The thing about those type of questions about saying admitting
that we've you know, made mistakes and moving on and
all that. I think that that when you have in
this case, when you have different coaching staff and I
and I get that Jerry Steven and Will McLay, you
know that they're the holdovers. They're still here, They're still

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making the decision. But I think, you know, you do
get a lot of input from the coaches, Shottenheimer defensive coaches.
I don't think Schottenheimer and Matt Eberfluss are going to
worry about picks that were made before them and all
that defensive you know, coaches or offensive coach in this case,
would be like, let me have this guy, if it's

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a Michigan lineman, a guy named Graham or whatever. First
of all, they're in different systems than they were when
they were drafted by the Cowboys. The Cowboys have a
different system, so coaches have the biggest egos. They they're like,
let me put my hands around that guy. I got him.
He'll be fine. Don't worry about all that. So I

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think from that standpoint, and then that's all that that
the Jerry Steven will kind of need to hear about,
you know, oh, draft another Michigan guy or something like
that like that, you know, not worried about it. This
guy's different, he's special, we'll coach him differently. Blah blah blah,
all that coach speaks. So I don't think that's the issue.
What you're asking also is when do you kind of

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cut the cord and say, you know, let's go back
to the well and a defensive tackle specifically. That'll come
down to what are they doing in free agency? Do
they re sign OSU? I mean, they have needs there,
so you know, if you drafted one I mean, just
just think about your O line. Back In twenty eleven,

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they finally drafted Tyl Tyron Smith, first time they drafted
a lineman first round thirty years and then two years
later they draft Travis Frederick. The next year they draft
Zach Martin. So you're trying to build something, sometimes it
takes more than one. So now I think that that's
that's a good question, But it's one that I think
that you know, you just have to look at your

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team right now and say what does his team need.
It doesn't matter what we've done before, doesn't matter about
hoping this guy turns the corner is you're drafting this
guy to think does he make us better? And if
it's the same position that it was, so be it.
All right, let's go to Carolina. He's driving in Texas,
East Texas, Long View, Texas, Carolina. What's up?

Speaker 5 (17:55):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Both, ma'am?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
How are you doing?

Speaker 11 (17:59):
Ma'am?

Speaker 9 (18:00):
All right?

Speaker 8 (18:00):
One hundred and twenty five calls just to get in.
It's crazy. You're line is going, man, it is going.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Well, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. I
thought you were going to say, one hundred and twenty
five miles an hour that when you said one twenty five,
I was like, oh my.

Speaker 8 (18:13):
Godness, no, that's rating real bad. That'd be very bad.

Speaker 10 (18:18):
I don't go that fast.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Here, what's you got for me?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
I got? I got got like three different points I
want to hit on. First one to ask you how
long do you think they're gonna wait to get this
parts bill done? Because I think that's going to be
evident to how they spend this money going forward to
free agency, not just our own, but you know, going
out time. That's my first question. My second question is

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if they do go ahead and get this done and
open up the cap. In your eyes, where would you go?
I mean outside of the web position group would you go?
Because of course created before the draft? What need would
you feel if you have like a thought of who's
going to be available laying just a position?

Speaker 12 (19:09):
What would you go for?

Speaker 8 (19:10):
A first and lastly, I s listening to the Talking Cowboys, right,
not Talking Cowboys, this thing. It was the Draft show
and they made a comment that I think they said
Barry Standards if I'm not mistaken, said that the Cowboys
shouldn't draft Campy because they don't know what to do

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with this, Like What does that really mean? Right in
your eyes?

Speaker 13 (19:35):
What does that?

Speaker 8 (19:36):
What does that mean? They don't know to do it
though I know there's a new coach to shake up,
So why would why would that be an issue? I
mean coaches coach Saners, I think I think not he
said somebody, Emmy Smith, that's it was. I'm sorry, Emmitt Smith.
They said they had a backroom conversation with him at

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I think one of the bulls trying bows or something
like that out there alab and they said he said
that they shouldn't draft me. He's so strongly about it
because they wouldn't know how to use some babic All right,
why would you think that's what would that be? A team?

Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's not a thing. That's not a thing. And again
I don't know who said that, and I don't I
don't know if you're one hundred percent sure on who's saying.
So let's not let's not go in there put anyone's okay,
all right, all right, well all right, Carolina, thank you
for the call. I got your point in here. Let's
let's touch on that that. I didn't hear that comment.

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And but that makes no sense to me at all,
especially if it was it because Ashton genty looks like
a faster version of Immit but but similar in the
way that they run. They these guys know what to

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do with with I mean with a running back that
you drafted twelfth over If you drafted a running back
twelfth overall, that's the reason why he's worthy of drafting
is because you don't have to make that decision of
what do you do with them? This is not Deuce Vaughan.
This is not some power back that's two hundred and
sixty pounds. This is a three down back that that

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is why you take them in the first round because
you don't have to be a genius to figure it out.
You run him here, you run him there, you let
him block, you throw a screen to him. He can
do it all. And if he can't do it all,
then you don't draft him twelfth overall. So I don't
think he's even going to be available. Like Brian in
Kansas City said, I don't agree that he's I don't
think he's going to be there for you. So I

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don't agree with anybody's point, whoever's point that was. As
I'm watching the mock drafts go here on NFL Network,
And since last week, I haven't seen Ashton Genty get
to the Cowboys at twelve. And there's the cow there's
Walter Nolan. Ole Miss is the pick for the Cowboys

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in this particular mock draft. I think Genti went seventh.
You don't have to worry about what to do with
a guy like that. He's special and and I just
think that's that's being ridiculous to think that these NFL
teams coaches don't know what to do.

Speaker 11 (22:18):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I didn't hear all that quote. There's got to be
more to it. No disrespect to any Hall of Fame
running back, but but I think the Cowboys, in any
team can figure out what to do with a special
running back like that. The question was, well they how
long will they wait? I don't think the Cowboys are
going to be They're not backed into the corner here

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and there, and they're certainly not going to be if
there's if there's a narrative that Micah Parsons has got
to get done so the Cowboys can do stuff in
free agency that only plays into Micah and his agent
and all of that, and the Cowboys are not going
to be a part of that, we know that, we
know that they are not going to be, you know,
forced into making a deal that doesn't make sense. Now,

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if the deal makes sense today, you make it. If
it makes sense before the draft, then you make it.
But you know it's got to be it's got to
work for both and this situation is going to have
to work for for both sides. And then to answer
the question of if they had some money available, what
position in the salary cap I mean what I mean,

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what position on the in free agency would I think
the Cowboys address or should address. I would go with
I would probably go with some veterans on the defensive line. Maybe,
you know, try to get another Dante Fowler Carl Lawson

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type pass rushroom, so you have some veteran there. I'm
looking at a corner too. I would think cornerback, and
you know those could get pricy in free agency. But uh,
there's a couple, there's a couple of guys I think
the Cowboys could target there. So defense for sure, but
you know, we'll see, we'll see what happened to me.

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I wouldn't mind them resigning their own guy in Jordan Lewis.
All right, let's go to Robbie and Koco Beach, Florida. Robbie,
what's up, Hey, Nick?

Speaker 6 (24:10):
How are you Dad?

Speaker 10 (24:12):
I'm good. You kind of threw me off with your
last answer to your question. Uh one, if that was
kind of what I was going to ask about free agency?
But can I ask it a different way?

Speaker 13 (24:22):
Sure?

Speaker 10 (24:24):
One of the earlier callers, Gary Maybe from New Xico
Maybe said it this, This defensive line class is supposed
to be pretty solid. Do we go after an offensive
lineman and free agency if we can? And second question
or statement question that you can expound on, maybe, is
I like that I heard Michael Parson say, Hey, I'd

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like to take a team friendly deal. I'd like to
make a lot of money and get my bag, but
still take a team friendly deal that would help us
get more players.

Speaker 9 (24:53):
I just I like to hear that.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
I don't know if there's truth behind it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I would like to see it. I mean, it
sounds beautiful, but let's what happens. We'll see if that
that really is the case, because a team friendly deal
isn't just about less money, but it's about the timing
of it. Like we've talked about before, that would be
team friendly. You know you want to get some help
in here. You want to get some some defensive players.
You want to get have a better offense, so you can,

(25:16):
you know, build a lead so he can rush the
passer more than do a deal. Now that that that
makes sense.

Speaker 10 (25:24):
And get that guy that you can't name because he's
still on another team. Maybe whoever, I've just thrown that
out there, you can.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I mean, if you did that, I mean, that's just
the party at the quarterback and then two guys meeting.
You know what I mean that? Oh yeah, I mean
fans might might really you know, might be back on board,
and they might love Jerry and Steven, you know, like
more than we've ever seen if they did a move

(25:52):
like that. But you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Those
pass rushers like that. I mean, they're tough to to.
Let's see what what Cleveland's asking for because we were
talking about Miles, right, Let's see what they're asking for it.
Because I say that because not for the Cowboys to
make a trade. But my point is if they're asking for.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
The moon, then then it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Then Micah Parson's trading for Mike, you better get you
better get twice as much for.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
That the moon and a half the moon, the moon.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And like Jupiter. If that's I don't I don't know
if it's I don't know if it would be worth anything.

Speaker 10 (26:32):
But anyway, but I'm with you, man, then I have
been since the get go. Yeah, you don't trade Micah,
because even if you get three first round draft picks,
do you get one more generational talent that Mike is?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (26:45):
Who knows. I mean the success rate on first round
picks is fifty percent.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, I mean three first round picks is a lot.
And this was discussed at lunch yesterday. We were kind
of talking about it, and two first round picks doesn't
seem to be worth it to me enough because you're
getting you're getting one more pick because you have a

(27:12):
first round pick, you have a you have a parson,
you have you have that, so you've got to get
another one and you got a draft to to make
it work. Now three three, there's a lot. I just
don't see that happening. But either way, I'm not. I
just I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't trade him. I

(27:33):
wouldn't They got a luck.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Go ahead, back to the first question and I'll let
you off there is I want to talk to lots
of people. Are there a veteran linemen out there that
you'd like to see brought in as a free agent
for a two year deal something like that? Offense, and
I'll listen to offense because the defense draft is supposed
to be so so deep.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, well all right, all right, sounds good. I mean
you can take that in different ways. If if the
defensive line is so deep, then then maybe you draft
offense in the first round, you know, and you if
you have this deep, you know, class of defensive lineman,
you can get something in the later rounds and they

(28:14):
can still help you out. So there's different ways of
thinking there. Another part too, is and again I don't
know this, I haven't looked this far on free agency
and good players and from like let's say Arizona, because
you are taking their offensive line coach and and Clayton

(28:36):
Adams and how he's your offensive coordinator. Won't call the plays,
but he's your offensive coordinator, and so he'll be working
closely with sounds like Ken Dorsey is going to be
a part of it as well. So look, you're you're
bringing in player you know, coaches from other teams. That's
that's a different dynamic too, that that you know, like

(28:57):
maybe this guy who's played with him, you know, knows
how to coach him, knows what he can do best.
So I haven't even connected those dots yet, but that's
something to do. You know, you can you can do
it for you know, the defensive side of the ball
as well. You know, if the Bears have a free agent,

(29:18):
that's worth looking at. And you know you had Eberflus
or maybe the Colts from a few years ago. So
so the ties of the new coaches that that you know,
that might work. Now, that's not always the case. I mean,
you know, I know Zimmerhead a couple of guys in
here that he has coached before, and he was like, no,
we're good. So just because you have history doesn't mean

(29:39):
it's a good history. So anyways, that's something to look
at when you look at free agency as some of
the ties there between coaches and players. Let's go to
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lines here. Let's go to Savannah, Georgia. We got Sebastian.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Sebastian, how we doing mister Evan, how are you Heay?

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Listen, it's awful out.

Speaker 16 (31:58):
Here, but a good that can be worth it over Brye.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
They not managed to get through, So that's something.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I got a question for you, though, what's awesome?

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Just like today we're not getting all that.

Speaker 7 (32:12):
I got a question for you, all right?

Speaker 16 (32:14):
Can you remember any one armed players who just excelled
head and shoulders above all the other pro players and
mean they're lay at the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Say that again. I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time here,
and you said that one more time.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Let me switch it to my phone real quick.

Speaker 16 (32:28):
Okay, I said, can you remember any of those one
armed players who excelled of all the other two arm
players and went to the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 8 (32:36):
No?

Speaker 16 (32:37):
Yeah, so you can't play the game with one arm.
At this point, Jarry's in the front office has to
look at what Philly's done and what all the other
teams have done and say yourself, we can't keep playing
with one hand tie behind our back. You have to
spend some money in free agency this year. You got
no choice because of the twenty something players should have
gone out. But the way that I look at this
draft and look at the free agency is like that one.

(33:01):
We need jayaln Tober to either take that next leap
or you're gonna have to move on from him to
find somebody better. And then, in my opinion, yes, Micah
does need help. But I would prefer going free agency
for a known commodity at alignment at d Lions, whether
it be defensive tackle or a defensive end, and I
would draft Ashton Gentz. And then in that case, if

(33:22):
I'm going for Ashton Genty and I'm doing that, I
wouldn't be able to hold on to Rico Dono. And
I look at it like this. I take him Ashton
Puncher lib Key, and I take dusonto the season and
you are already letting a hunter handle all of the
short downyardage. Anyway, I think that would be more than
enough to get you over the hump at the running
back part, as well as giving you a receiving option

(33:43):
out of the backfield between Dukes and gent But I
want to see and we also need a linebacker for sure,
so we need some known commodities. We're gonna have to
spend a little bit more than a couple million dollars
that we normally go through, you know, shopping out the bargain. Ben,
we are a draft and developed team, but you have
to look at teams like Philly Billy's like, listen, don't
care we're paying a fifty five million dollars quarterback. We're
paying one of the top wide receivers in the league,

(34:04):
two of them. As a matter of fact, we went
to the Super Bowl three times in ten years. At
least all One is supposed to be a top five
team in our conference. That way, we're competing for it
every single year, not going to the playoffs and getting
knocked out in the first round. But you guys have
a great day, and.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
So all right, I think I think you said draft
Ashton gent and then Hunter lifty would be your short
yardage back. I thought I heard that. But if you're
drafting a running back in the first round, especially in
the top half of the first round, he's got to

(34:41):
be able to do everything. That's why you're drafting him.
If he's not, then then you get a guy in
the second round or the third round. You know, if
you're gonna if you're gonna mix things up like that,
but you know the reason why you draft the guy
that you know, like that is because he's special. And
you drafted Zeke and he was. He was special. He
was a short yardage back, he was your first and
ten back, he was your third down back. He was everything.

(35:04):
And I think that's that's what would happen if you
drafted a guy in the first round. Again, I don't
know if he's gonna if he's gonna make it that far,
but if he does, I mean, you know, he would
handle that and then that's why that's why you draft him.
But you know, I'm nothing against Hunter Lipke or Douce
Vaughan or whatever. I think those are good. You know,
they're they're good, solid players. Rico Daddle had had a

(35:27):
good season. But I think if you want to upgrade,
I mean, I think that you're gonna have to do
that through the draft. So as I see it, a
mock draft just went through with Astra genty at twelve.
Just like I just said, I haven't seen him go
that far again. Mock drafts, you know, do somebody's five
point zero mock draft, you know, I mean, which basically
just says I'm just gonna keep doing I'm just gonna

(35:49):
keep throwing stuff at the wall. See what sticks. I
mean it's before the Combine, it's before the Pro Day's
a lot of things change, but we get it. I mean,
the draft is here, people are talking. I mean the
draft talk is here. That's what people want to talk about.
I don't like to put a ton of stock and
all that because things change. Somebody's gonna go to the
Combine to run a four to two three. I don't

(36:10):
know what position or what, but all of a sudden
he becomes a first rounder. I don't think Xavier Worthy
was a first round pick going into the Combine, and
then he ran the fastest time ever. And guess what.
There he is Chris Johnson from East Carolina. I remember
did the same thing, and you know you run like that.

(36:31):
Matt Jones, former Arkansas quarterback, went to Receivern like a
four three to one at six foot six. All of
a sudden, he's a first round pick for Jacksonville. So
my point is is, you know, we're going to see
five to ten guys that we haven't even really heard
about that are going to jump into the mix here,
and maybe guys in the late teens are late. You know,

(36:54):
first round is going to move up higher, and vice versa.
And all that. So the point is still early in
the game. It hasn't been you know, this story of
the drafts hasn't even begun to be told yet. So
let's see what happens there. But I agree with Sebastian
with the bigger name free agent, even if that means

(37:14):
you're not signing as many guys as you because you
have to sign some guys. There's no doubt whether it
be your own or not. But I'm making I'm gonna
at least attempt to make a few more splashes this
time around. Then I just think it's it's it's it's
got to happen this year for this team, this fan base,
in the locker room, I think I think they need
to make some splashes here. All right. Rick Webstern, Massachusetts,

(37:40):
what's up?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
How are you doing good?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
I'm all right? How was your week?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Good? Good?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I just had a couple of comments and one that
was in Carolina. Emmett did say that, but he's spanned
a little bit, but he said he enjoys enjoys. Uh,
you know, there's a great running back, be a great choice,
but I don't know if that based on what they've
done last year, maybe the befool How would they use
them if they don't know really how to use them

(38:07):
and they haven't used them, why would you draft them?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I just don't know. How how would you what?

Speaker 13 (38:15):
That was on?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
It was one the fan.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Okay, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with
the greatest running back in the history of the Cowboys
who said that. I just don't. I don't agree with that.
What what what does he having to go off of? Of?
How the Cowboys aren't going to use them because they
didn't use Rico Dawdle the same way. That's not the
same player. They haven't had this guy. They haven't had
a first round type running back sitting here like that

(38:39):
for them for them to use. So how would you
say based off of what I mean? And I'm not
one that says that they waited too long to get
the ball to Rico Daddle, I don't. I don't agree
with that. Rico Daddles started like fourteen games, he got
chances in the first half of the season. He didn't.

(39:02):
Is Rick still there?

Speaker 11 (39:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
The other A couple other coms was, well, you were
talking about the genty maybe a little faster than well,
That's what Genty said when they asked him, So what
do you think, Well, I think I'm a little faster
Danama And that just went off. But the other thing
to talk about free agents that could come in Clayton
Adam's offensive line from Carolina from Arizona. Yeah, Will hern

(39:31):
Andz is I think a free agent, so they could
bring him over.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yep. And and that was a player and that it
might have been what ten years. I don't know how
long he's been in the league, maybe not that long,
but I know the Cowboys loved him coming out of
the draft. And I haven't really followed his career that much,
but he was a guy that they were very high
on if I remember correctly. So, yeah, that would be good.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Yeah, yeah, that was good.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Uh. I think it's just with to everybody dunk and everything. Still,
I still believe that we should draft one of the
first three rounds. Should be drafting a defensive tackle, a
running back, and a wide receiver and go from there.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, again that depends on what they do in free agency.
I mean, those are good three positions I can get.
I can name three more that I It's like, how
do you not draft an offensive lineman, a cornerback, or
a linebacker. So that's the point, is that there's about
six to seven positions that make sense to address as
high as the first round. That means that you're not

(40:41):
going to address those positions. You know, some of them
aren't going to get touched at all because they don't
they don't have a fourth round pick, so you know
you may not you may not get some of those
positions till the fifth round the way it goes. So
all right, thank you, thank you, appreciate the call. All right,
let's move on to my man, Randy, that's or Canna Randy.

(41:04):
What's up man?

Speaker 7 (41:06):
Well, I'm baking my truck trying to draw off I mean,
good gravy is bringing like a cow fishing on a
flat rocks right now. Holy moly. All right, so what's
been happening?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well, you know, uh, just talking about the Cowboys and
not making it to the to the Super Bowl again
and the Eagles. You know, I don't know if you
saw that they made it so just out here.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I kind of won't touch that.
I hadn't been able to listen this morning because I've
been running crazy oven. But last night, I was listening
to Talking Cowboys and them guys. They got me pumped
up for about five minutes on the all the new coaches,
and then I started thinking, man, they're suckering and it's
only been over like a day or two. So I'm

(41:54):
I'm trying to like monotne my feelings right now, because yeah,
it sounds great, you know, all the coaching changes and
all that good stuff that they're doing. But until the
front office proves that they're gonna do a little bit
of you know, free agency and good drafts to somewhat

(42:17):
level the playing ground, I'm trying to not get sucked
in too quick. It's we got a long off season,
so yeah, that's where I'm at. And you know, and
I'm not getting political here at all, but with seeing
what's going on in the politics and see and how
money is what everybody's talking about, that that is where

(42:41):
we all need to focus. As long as the front
office is focused on money, because that's what it's all about.
That's one. And then making to the Super Bowl too.
That's just my feeling.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Until they have to.

Speaker 7 (42:54):
Start tarping off the top layer of that stadium because
they're not making the money then maybe they'll start listening
to us and giving it care of what we feel.
But I feel like while that money's rolling in and
we keep packing the stadium, we keep buying the merchandise
and all that, and they're just gonna do what makes
them the money. And that's that's kind of how I feel.

(43:14):
Hopefully they'll prove us wrong this year. I mean, they
haven't done anything to say otherwise in my opinion. You know,
it just keeps. They just keep seeming to just do
what's gonna fill up the house, and whether we make
it or not doesn't. It's crazy, how here you here
the old guys you know from my day, like Troy

(43:36):
and Emmett, Michael and no them. And if guys are frustrated,
and I honestly figured they wouldn't say much because they're like, hey,
look at us, what we did. Y'all can't touch what
we did. But they're actually voicing their opinions quite a
bit now, and you would think that would hold weight,
you know.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Not.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, not really though, not to me. And that's that's
my point. And I've and and I just always I
always say this, at all due respect to the former players,
I just don't put a lot of a lot of
stock into what they say about about this current team,
this current situation, this current locker room, all of that,

(44:15):
all the chemistry that they just they don't know any
more than us when it comes to what's going on here. Now.
Do they understand football and what makes a great team
and what they need, Yes, one hundred percent they understand that.
But when you start getting into what's wrong with the team,
what's wrong with the culture, what's wrong with things that

(44:38):
that it's hard to actually see from the outside. I
don't I don't put a ton of stock there, but
I mean, but what I like about it is there's
still cowboys. They always will be Troy and Michael. If
if they're frustrated, then then you guys can relate because
y'all are frustrated, you know. So I like that part.

(44:59):
But sometimes I have to just pause a little bit
when I hear what they're saying, and I'm like, all right,
you know, let's see where this is really coming from.
And are they plugged in? I mean, if they are,
if they are talking to a lot of people inside
the building, didn't they are plugged in? But sometimes former
players just going off of their name and what they've done.
That doesn't mean that they know what's happening. That's just

(45:22):
that's my take on it. Again, all due respect to
former players and what.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
They can can I'll put a slightly different spin on
the same subject. I kind of think that they do
know this front office because they worked with them, They
know how they think they see what's going on because
I forgot who it was. It was one of our
guys that they were saying. You know, it feels like

(45:49):
Jerry is always trying to prove that he can do
it because those three Super Bowls, Jimmy did it. Jimmy
controlled all that stuff back then and he did it.
So I think that they're I mean, yeah, it's been
years and years since they were in that locker room,
and I agree with you on that, but I think
that they still they know them guys up front well,

(46:11):
because it's the same group, you know, it's the same family.
I kind of have a feeling they know a little
more than what we think they know maybe, and and
they're putting it out there just to let everybody else
know that they know more.

Speaker 8 (46:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
I don't know if I said that, all right, but.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah, well, uh hey, it's.

Speaker 7 (46:31):
Hey, I looked up to Troy. That was my big brother.
I would if I could have had a big brother.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
Troy was it.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
He was my superhero. And uh so when he talks,
I try to listen. You know, he brought me my
super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So I get it. I get it. No, I'm with you.
I mean I'm the same way. I mean, I grew
up watching all those guys and they were they were
the heroes. So yeah, and I say that, and I
mean that i'd all due respect, you know, and they
it's a balance, you know, it's a that this whole
thing what you said about, well, you know, are they

(47:06):
trying to make money, they trying to win the Super Bowl?
I mean it's it's a balance. And and those guys
that are being vocal em it, Troy Michael, I mean
they're not opening up restaurants, or they're not selling merchandise,
or they're not on commercials and things like that. I mean,
they're they're still they're still making money. They're still you know,

(47:27):
using their name to to to sell products and things
like that. On that side of it, which which which
they should do. They also have careers as well that
that they're doing. So it's a balance, and so I
I just don't agree with the is it this? Are
they trying to win Super Bowl? They trying to make money?
Because it's always been it's always been both. All right,
Robin Vegas, rob what's up?

Speaker 7 (47:51):
You know?

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
How you doing good?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
How are you?

Speaker 17 (47:55):
I'm good?

Speaker 5 (47:57):
You know?

Speaker 17 (47:57):
I watching that Super Bowl was was awful. It was like, well,
what's crazy is it was like I was watching the
nineties Cowboys. The Eagles have built so much like them,
where they got great lines, great running back, great wide receivers,
and their quarterback isn't asked to carry the team, but

(48:20):
he's asked to make plays when he has to win,
and Hurts does. And what's scary is there's so much
better than us in every way. They're better at every
position group but kicker, and their front office is and
you know they're gonna build on this team, so you're

(48:40):
gonna have to contend with them for probably four or five.
They got a four or five year window and they're
not gonna sit around. I mean, their own has sold
eight percent of the team to free up six hundred
and sixty five million cash so he could go buy
you know, spend those signing, you know, money for signing bonuses.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You are you wearing? Are you going to be an
Eagles fan? Is that what you're telling us?

Speaker 5 (49:04):
No, no, what I'm hearing.

Speaker 17 (49:06):
No, but a cowboy a cowboy fan. Yeah, wishes wishes
we were like the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Good good luck, good luck with that. I know a
team liked the Eagles, but nobody wants to be philling
olp No, no, no, I fan the garbage.

Speaker 17 (49:23):
The city is garbage. But but that's how you build it.
That's how you build the team. And you gotta even
you got to give Kellvin more so much credit. He
walks in there and he says, I know Jalen Hurts
is making fifty plus, but he's not. If we focus
on him, we're not going to win. And he changed

(49:44):
the office. We all laughed where we said, I'll kill
him more. He ain't gonna run the ball. Belgity does wrong. Okay,
We're just we're light years away and free agency is
the key. I don't want to hear about the draft.
I could care less about the draft if they don't
go get a dominant defensive lineman like the guy from
Philadelphia who's a free agent, because those are men. Those

(50:06):
are grown men ready to rock and roll. The guys
that are coming from college are not grown men yet.
I need a grown ass man right now, Go get
me uh in free agency linemen, I could always get
the pretty wide receiver or the running back in the draft.

(50:27):
I want grown ass men. And that's the line. Until
you build up that line both sides of the ball,
you can't compete with the Eagles. That's where they That's
not he destroyed. I mean they made Patrick Mahomes look
like a rookie. He I've never seen him lost. I
thought Philly would win. I didn't want to admit it
to myself because I think kidsas City was kind of

(50:50):
doing it with smoking mirror as the whole the whole year.
But I just think that Mahomes will find something now.
He had no answers. Yeah, and the Eagles are young.

Speaker 10 (51:01):
There's so much younger than us.

Speaker 17 (51:02):
If this doesn't light a fire under Jerry, then we
have no hope. Because I agree with the last caller.
He would like to luck into a super Bowl. But
he's a money making machine. That's probably why he doesn't
spend in free agency because he would rather take that

(51:25):
cash and invested in oil fields, and I'm sure he
would get a bigger return. So I I to made
that sort of reason why he doesn't do the free
agency like you did. And he he was disgruntled to
do it with CD and he was disgruntled to do
it with DAK. But that's the only reason why I

(51:45):
think he doesn't do it. He'd rather invest that money elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Okay, all right, Rob, appreciate that, you know, and I
agree with some of the stuff you're saying about Philly.
I'll say this though, there's and nobody wants to hear
this when it comes to like money and stuff like that.
But like Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, could they could
fill I think we did the math on this, sixty

(52:09):
three salary caps sixty three Like that's how much he's
worth and the Cowboys are worth. Is that if they
could do the salary cap sixty three times and I
don't even know what it is, it's two fifty five
to sixty whatever the cap is, but that's how many
times he could do the cap. So when you're saying

(52:29):
he'd rather use that money for oil, that's that's so
stupid that I'll steal I'll steal a word that you
just said on the air for us that we need
to not do again. But that's what that is. Like
to think that the money crosses over like that is ridiculous. Okay,
it is. It's not even the same. It's about building

(52:50):
the team, structuring it with the cap and how to
use the resources here. But it's not this money has
nothing to do with that. Like I said, he'd cover
sixty three salary caps. So we're not we're not talking
about that, all right, all right, Chris, did you want
to say something.

Speaker 18 (53:11):
I was gonna say about the salary cap? Said what
he cannot use money that he doesn't use on the
salary it rolls over to the next year. That money
for the salary cap is used for the players, right,
it doesn't roll over. So his statement is wrong.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I he's got more money than that too. It's not
like you're actingly all of his money goes Well, I
could do this, I could. I mean, that's that's not
that's not the case, and that's not the reason why.
Now I can't give you the reason on the coaching stuff.
I don't about head coaches and why it doesn't pay more.
I can't tell you. I don't have that one, but

(53:51):
but it doesn't come down it's not because he doesn't
have it. So anyway, let's go to Raza in Springfield, Virginia. Raza, Hey, Nick,
how you doing good?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
How are you good?

Speaker 16 (54:02):
Good?

Speaker 19 (54:03):
I just want to say, just give a shout out
to the show. It's been my uh, probably the only
listen since you've been going to weekly, and with my job,
it's hard to listen as much, but I always make
sure I listen to my storyliners.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
It's just, uh, just.

Speaker 19 (54:16):
Give a shout out to you guys.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Is this first time I feel like you've called?

Speaker 19 (54:22):
I called season one a couple of times and then
last year mostly I just can't call when you're live
today it snowed out here, so I have a day
off of work. Well, I always listen to listen.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
All right, awesome, awesome, appreciate.

Speaker 12 (54:36):
It, yep.

Speaker 19 (54:37):
And so I just want to go over just kind
of my off season wish list. And then one thing
I just want to get out off Why do we
always have to be in the headlines all Sunday like
that report? Why didn't need to come out? I mean,
I guess I don't know. And then I just really
hope we get Mike got done. I don't want to
wait till an hour before Week one like Dak was.

(55:00):
I just hope we get Micah done early. Just you know,
I don't want off season every week Ah, is Michael leaving?
Is Michael going there? Just I just hope we get
it done.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (55:10):
And then my one question to you before I go
to my off season quick off season wish list. Do
you think we'll spend in free agency this year? It's
going to be more and more like are you getting
the feeling like the past couple of years?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Well, no, I think they're going to spend in free agency.
I think free agency is going to look different because
you do have so many guys that you have to
that you have to sign. I mean that you're losing,
so you have to you have to replace them. Do
they replace them by resigning them or do they look elsewhere?

(55:42):
And I think based off a seven and ten record
and a new coaching staff and a lot of new
coaches around the league that are coming from different places,
I think you're going to see more players in free
agencies sign than we have in the past. That doesn't
necessarily mean they're going to be super aggressive means. I
think they'll bring in more players because there are spots

(56:04):
to fill. And I think in the past that they
kind of fall in love with their own players and
they re sign let's say ten to twelve of their
own guys. Maybe they only signed six of those and
then they signed six or seven from the outside. So
I think it's gonna look different. It's not necessarily going
to be what everybody loves, I don't think, but I

(56:25):
do think they're going to bring in some other players,
and hopefully one or two of them are some guys
like like Rob said, you know some dudes, some grown
men that they can come here and are ready to play,
ready to compete at this highest level.

Speaker 19 (56:38):
Okay, that sounds good, that sounds promising. So my wish
list is to get a wide receiver and free agency.
I want to free agent wide receiver instead of a rookie.
Maybe the rookie later on, but I would hope we
get like maybe Stefan Diggs pare them up with his brother.
That would be cool if they can rehab together and everything. Yeah,
feel cool thing if we could get him, or maybe

(56:59):
even Key and Allen, who I think might be a
free agent from Chicago. And then basically, I think this
offseason is genty our bust. I think we need genty.
This draft doesn't look so promising with like top end talent,
so I just really hope we get genty and uh
that's just my thoughts. I think it's genty your bust
for next year.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Okay, thanks for taking.

Speaker 19 (57:21):
My call, and you know, enjoy it all.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Right, Well, thank you. You know, I don't think they'll
ever have that mentality on the draft of so and so,
you know, or bust. I mean, you know, there's other
There's gonna be other players obviously in the first round,
uh that could come in and help. And then as
far as the running back position goes, I mean I
think that they'll sign back a proven solid back and

(57:48):
that could be Rico Daddle because I mean I think
of for a thousand yard rushing season, he's he's proven
that he can be good, uh solid to good, but
he's that's not necessarily the difference maker. I think Rico
Dodda will be a solid number two. I know he's
probably his agent. They're gonna probably try to get, you know,
more than that and and maybe go to a place

(58:11):
where he could he could start. So you know, I
think you can you sign those guys, you sign that
that type of player. That doesn't mean that you don't
go and draft your your running back, but you're gonna
you're gonna sign a running back in free agency and
uh and have him here, have him on the roster,
and then you know, then you don't have to go

(58:32):
and get a guy in the first round. But if
he's there, you still do it. And then you've got
two guys, but they're gonna try to cover you know,
they're gonna put band aids on some of these wounds
at different positions and then hope that that you know,
you you can upgrade when you get to the draft
if you need it. All right, let's go to Dylan
in Northport, Florida.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Heydeck, how you doing good?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
How are you?

Speaker 13 (58:55):
I'm good man.

Speaker 20 (58:56):
So you're talking about free agency and draft and all
this stuff, and we always have like just crazy amounts
of needs. They play this like one year, two year
contract game with their guys a lot, and so they're
constantly in this bucket where there's like twenty plus guys
that need to get refreshed or positions that need to
get refreshed and they're bringing you know, lower chier guys
again to refresh those positions, and that's fine, but this

(59:17):
year they're losing some like cornerstone guys, like potentially losing,
I should say, like a Zach Martin, Like at DeMarcus Lawrence.
You got Jordan Lewis and Osa obviously up and PFS
is saying, OHSA is going to catch like twenty million
a year. I'm out at that point. There's no way
I'll go draft a guy or get a big beefy
boy in free agency for cheap and cheaper than that,

(59:37):
I should say. But everybody's freaking out about kind of
there's like a civil war going on right now in
cowboy Land. I don't know if you pay attention to
Twitter much at all or not, but people are ready
to like fight each other over she would grab gent
in the trash. We would go running back detackle offensive lineman.
If you mentioned grabbing an offensive lineman on Twitter, Oh
my god, dude, good luck, good luck. You're You're dead

(59:59):
to half a cowboys population out there. And I think
that's silly because to me, you look at the names.
I don't know why you look at the names. Right
and three out of the five positions I think are
very questionable, and there's a pretty low ceiling or a
moderate ceiling on those positions. You know, Tyler Smith and
Deb the other two guys that I'm confident and continue

(01:00:20):
to improve and play better. The other three spots, I
don't know, And I think people are freaking out because
they've already dedicated resources to those and to me. So
I don't care if you've dedicated the resources. If they're
not working out or they're not good enough, nothing else
matters until just like that one call, I forget his name,
but he always ends it with got to have d
line or no line, right, And if you watch the
Eagles Flinn in Super Bowl, nothing was more true than that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Well, you're referring to Lester in Minnesota, who's actually on
the line. He'll be calling or he'll be talking here
after you. So you're right. I mean that it doesn't
matter if it didn't work, It doesn't mean you keep
using it.

Speaker 11 (01:00:57):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
If you buy a car and it doesn't run, you
don't keep driving it, you know, I mean, if you've
got to get you got to get something better. And
I agree with that. Now I guess what the question
is is Terrence Steel, Like what what is the thought
on him? Is he is he broke down? Is he
is he a guy that they can still you know,

(01:01:19):
lean on. That's that's one where I think that they're
probably not going to make a change there. And they
may they may try to lower his base salary, but
I don't think he's going to go for that. And yeah,
you know that that one's going to be interesting. There's
a lot of options there. You could you could you
can release him or try to, you know, alter his

(01:01:43):
contract a little.

Speaker 20 (01:01:44):
I think we know what his ceiling is, and that's fine.
I mean there's only got, i think what two years
left at most on us contracts, So it just kind
of is what it is over there. If he's your
worst offensive lineman, that's fine. I'm cool with that. But
I mean they don't have, you know, guidance obviously questionable.
The right guard positions I was questionable right now with
with Martin and his future and everything going on. So
and I'm not saying they have to go out and

(01:02:05):
pick a guy in the first round on on the
offensive line. I'm just thinking if he shapes up that way,
that's fine. I'm what I'm hoping for is to trade
back scenario because they have you can throw a rock
at this team and you're gonna hit a hole. I mean,
they got hold everywhere, needs everywhere. So just best best
player available potentially or trade back, I mean whatever. And
then last thing, real quick as far as pr agency goes,
don't you know kind to sign a big contract guy.

(01:02:26):
There's a lot of big names, key contributors for moderate prices,
especially like linebacker and defensive interior. That's why I'm looking
at in free agency is the middle of the defense
and see what I can do there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Yeah, I mean you got to you got to hit.
I mean I think I think of all all thanks
for the call, Dylan. I mean I think the Eagles,
you know, when you're looking at what they did obviously
that they made the big move to get sakuon Barkley,
but you know what, and that put them over the
top of course on offense. Uh And I think it
made Kellen Moore look like a great offensive coordinator and

(01:02:58):
he helped him get a head coaching job. That's not
for did I mean he was with the Chargers and
he had a lot of talent over there and it
didn't didn't really work out, and so you know, players matter.
But was Zach Bond on the other side, what a
great move that was, you know, And that wasn't it
wasn't a player that that was highly coveted. I mean,

(01:03:18):
that was just a player that that that their coaches
had a vision for. And that's what that's what you need.
That's what needs to happen here. You know, you've got
to hit on some of these. You've got to look
at it and go, yeah, Okay, this guy may not
be considered a top name or a top draft pick
or whatever, but he fits for me. And I always remember,

(01:03:40):
I always tell this story about Anthony Hitchins, the linebacker
from Iowa that mel kiper or Todd McShay had as
a sixth or seventh rounder. But Rod Marinelli thought he
was he was gonna be somebody special. He had a
vision for his defense, and they picked him in the
fourth or out and a lot of people scoffed that

(01:04:02):
that was a reach. Well, he had one hundred tackles
as a rookie, made All Rookie team and started just
about every game and played about ten years. And I
know he went to the Chiefs won some Super Bowls
for them as well. But my point is is that
is that the coaches really need That's why coaches and
scouts have to work together when they're doing these these
the draft process because it's not only yes, you've graded

(01:04:24):
him here, Now what can I do with him? And
you know that's that's the big thing. Let's go to
a break here real quick on storyline. I know we
have two callers on the line. We'll go to a
break right and then we'll be right back after.

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Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
There is no eye in Dallas. There is no eye
in heart, either no eye in blue star or a
lone star. For that matter, and there's no eye in
how about them? Cowboys smear enough knows there's no eye
in football. Football is a wee thing and experience that
it is best enjoyed together with good drinks and good
folks home or away. We rally together, we cry together,

(01:05:30):
and we always rally cry together because there's definitely no
eye in Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Fans smear enough.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
We do game days. Please drink responsibly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
It's the Cowboys storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
All right, welcome back to Cowboys storyline. We got about
maybe ten minutes or so. Let's get let's get back
to the phone line. Lester in Minnesota, Lester, what's.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Up, heynck?

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
How you doing good?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
How are you did to see that Super Bowl? Now,
that's what I'm talking about. Offensive and defensive line. I
know you saw that and this show here I appreciate.
I've heard a lot of callers in talking about the
offensive and defensive line. I even heard you saying something
about it. And then the reason why I say all

(01:06:20):
that is because again, if you're a quarterback, if you
don't have offensive line, your quarterback is on his back.
You can't run the ball. And if you don't have
a defensive line, you can't stop anybody. But what I'm
also hearing today is that there's the people, a lot
of seem like a few people frustrated about spending money

(01:06:41):
and this and that. Well I'm not a salary cap
ologist or anything like that, but I did take accounting
in college, and there are ways. That's a lot of
creative ways you can stack the money, nick, And It'll
take me about an hour to get into it. So
I think I don't know if they are using some

(01:07:03):
of those creative ways. I'm sure they are using some,
but they're more than what they're using. Probably you can
do a lot to manipulate a counting. You really can,
I mean, you really really really can. Yeah, So it
would take me a long time to kind of get
into it. And I think that's the frustration because we

(01:07:23):
see these other teams manipulating, and I know that philosophy
is different from every team to team, but it just
seems it seems like without knowing that they're not using
a lot of the counting manipulation tools and sound. I'm sure,
but it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
But anyway, I just called in to say, Hey, how
you doing Cowboys fans. I didn't really like the results
of the Super Bowl because it wasn't any Cowboys in there.
But I did like the offensive and defensive line, and
until we get a good to great offensive line and
deep at the same time, this is what we got.
Cowboys Fans go Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
All right, all right, Lester. I think this team can
I mean, they obviously can do better. I mean they
can do better with with uh building the roster to
say they don't manipulate the cap and all that. Again,
a lot of you guys are talking about stuff that
you just don't know about, like like and I can't.

(01:08:26):
And I'm not telling you that you're that you're right
or wrong because I don't know either, Like we don't
know the specifics of the contract. Okay, and I'm sorry,
but spotrack and Overthecap dot Com don't get into all
of the specifics of the contracts as well. So just
because you go to these websites and you can see
what other people report off of it, doesn't mean you

(01:08:46):
know exactly what they're doing and what they did with
Zach Martin's contract two years ago when he held out,
and then how they they manipulated this to get it
to where they are right now and now he's going
to be a free agent, but they're probably gonna cut
him from and make them a June one cut. And
I mean like there's a lot of things involved here,
and so to sit here and say that they don't

(01:09:07):
do it, No, that's not what it is. Let's just
be real clear what it is. Other teams are better
than the Cowboys right now. They got better players. They
they've drafted better, they've got better for in free agency.
They've just put the team together in a better way.
That's what it is. So there's a lot of teams.

(01:09:28):
There's some good football teams that did not make it
to the Super Bowl, that didn't make it to the
championship game. Cowboys were not a good team. They were
an average team, a little bit below average, and they
didn't they didn't make it there. Now every year is different.
To start this thing over again, you know, they they've
hopefully they won't have as many injuries, but they need

(01:09:49):
to be they need to build this team better so
than they did before that when they do have these
injuries that that they can they can you know, plug
and play better players. So I'm not sitting here I'm
going to try to tell you that hey, it's it's
not as bad as you think it's. It's bad. I
mean it was a bad and it and it doesn't
look better. With Philadelphia bringing a lot of guys back,

(01:10:10):
Washington looks like they're ready to to take another step,
and they already took a big step last year. So
it's going to be a challenge. Your schedule is going
to be going to be tough, even as a third
play schedule, it's going to it's going to be tough.
But you know, I still think the Cowboys have really
good players on this team, but they needed to get
they needed to stock pile some some you know, good players.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I think they've got great players, but they need they
need a lot more good players. And that's what I think.
You know, build your team. Let's go to Ronnie in
New Jersey. What's up? No, No, listen, I'm not I'm
not frustrated. It's just that I I know a lot
of people in the building here. I know I know

(01:10:55):
the people that deal with the CAP I don't necessarily
understand all the things that happen, and I definitely don't
know what goes on behind the scenes, which means you
guys don't either. So what are we talking about here.
Here's what we know. Cowboys aren't good enough right now.
They have not been good enough. They weren't good enough
to even make it to the playoffs last year. So
they figure out a way to get better than that.

(01:11:18):
But to say that they don't manipulate the cap, I mean, yes,
they do it. Had they hit right, No they haven't,
they haven't. They need to do a better job whatever
they're doing. They need to do a better job. But
to say that they're sitting back and they just run
these you know, cookie cutter contracts that are black and white,
that's not the case, all right, sorry, Ronnie.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
I think the frustrating part is nicking where everybody mentions
the cap. And that's why everybody's talking about the cap,
the cap, the cap, because it seems like Philadelphia and
all these other teams they were supposed to be in
salary cap hell and all this stuff. We're all, well,
wait until they signed Jalen Hurts. I remember where Ryan
carteris was like, well when the sign bra her Sy,

(01:12:01):
they're gonna be the same situation we are. And and
they're not, well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
They they haven't. They haven't done anything with Hurts yet.
I mean, like they signed him, but it's not it's
not until your third year or so, because you remember that,
you know, they signed Dak a couple of times too,
and and when you first sign him that you can
you can make the contract however you want. It's about
that third year when it really hits. But again, Philadelphia,
they they've they've they've added help. That's the thing that

(01:12:29):
Philadelphia did is they signed him, but then they they
gave him a running game. And that's what the Cowboys
haven't done. They're like leaned on on Dak, like, hey,
here here's the guy Dak and CD it's okay if
if if you run the ball. Philadelphia approved that you know,
hurts one m v P. But he wasn't. You know,

(01:12:49):
he had good, solid numbers. But I mean they were
leaning on the defense and and and they leaned on Barkley,
and the Chiefs took Barkley away, and look what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:12:59):
It's also for us because we've had our chances. We
have some good things and and these teams and listen,
we're watching our rivals being in the championship game. Okay,
that's one thing. Then you see one of our rivals
winning the super Bowl. That's another thing that's like more
frustration build up on top of frustration, and then us
not being able to even get to like the second

(01:13:21):
round or pass the second round. It's where you know,
I think all of us are fair. And you said, Jerry,
don't listen to the show. I mean, if I know,
you've been asked that. But if he was to listen
to the show, he will understand that this is where
all the fans are at. Like this, all this frustration
that you're getting, like people are getting your calls are
coming through. That's that's just like build up, you know

(01:13:44):
what I'm saying over the years, and now you're seeing
Philadelphia being in the super Bowl twice and winning it once.
So that's the most hated team in our in our
in our rivalry right now, like and there's been because
of the way they are. But when they the salary cap, Tynick,
I think it's a because because Stephen Jones and Jerry

(01:14:04):
Jones always talk about the cap. That's that's their number
one thing. They mentioned the cap. So that's why we
are like sold into the cap. The cap. The cap
well is Philadelphia, are they smarter than than than the
Joneses dealing with the cap.

Speaker 9 (01:14:18):
Are the Rams or any of these other Now, I
tell you what they're doing better.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I tell you what those teams are doing better than
the Cowboys is there. They're drafting better, they're drafting better.
I mean you can say free agency, Yeah, free agency.
The Eagles did a much better drop in free agency obviously,
but they they're drafting better and that and so you know,
Will McClay doesn't get a pass anymore. Okay with Will McClay.

(01:14:43):
They have to draft better. The last two or three
years have not been good. Their second round picks, third
round picks, even first round picks haven't hit. Hit the
success you got the Eagles got defensive players scoring touchdowns.
You've got, you've got defensive rookies of the year. I mean,
they're draft thing better then.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
The reason we don't put so much on the play.
Uh yeah, these past couple of first round picks haven't hit.
But the second round picks, everybody knows. Well, the way
it seems, it seems like it's more Jerry Jones, because
Jones likes Jerry likes taking risk on hurt guys, and
he's been taking risk on hurt guys for years now.

(01:15:23):
So so yeah, that's that's that's like, that's like the
comment that they gave you, like, well, with a team
won the Super Bowl whatever, a player with one hand
behind their back work or which is the one hand player.
That's what you're doing when you're taking away a second
round pick and investing it in an either guy or
in a a guy that you know it's not going

(01:15:44):
to start this year or whatever. You need this draft.
You need help now, Like you need help with free agents,
you need help now, you need help with with the
whole draft. So I think that's where the frustrations.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
But you say that's that's easy though, Like you're right,
there have been out of that in the second round.
I don't know if the last two picks in the
second round or were that type of picks. I mean,
I I schoonmaker Marshawn Neeland. I don't they missed and
and and that's the thing. And I love Will McClay
and I'm so happy that they brought him back. And
I'm glad that that he's here. You know, he he

(01:16:18):
he has GM type duties. Okay, he does, he does,
he has I mean he's not the not the GM,
but he gets He gets leaned on a lot in there,
both free agency and the draft and so and he
knows that they have to do better. They have to
draft better. Uh, you can say what you want about
free agency, but if if your plan is to lean

(01:16:39):
on the draft, then then they they have to to
draft better than they have the last two or three years,
because they really haven't been that good. I think for
the last three years. Micah was was a huge hit.
Deron Bland was a hit, but you know he he
got hurt, took a step back. Jake Ferguson made a
Pro Bowl but took a step back last year, also
got hurt. So they need to do more of those

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and get more of those. Let's go one more called
Ali in Florida. Sorry, we run out of time. Ali.
What's up.

Speaker 13 (01:17:04):
Good morning there, How are you pretty good? Buddy? First
of all, say hello to Jacob and Chris's children. Number
one two. You took some of my point.

Speaker 22 (01:17:18):
You're right as far as the dark is sixty million
dollar quarterback right now, offensive lawn is the most important
defensive tackle and running back.

Speaker 13 (01:17:30):
They have a lot of album. I mean it's a
pretty deep but if you look at the Super Bowl
Jalen Harrits has a big, huge pocket in front of
me versus my home, and all I have to say,
and let me know when do you want to with
his pictures? I'll work on it. I love your brother.

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Nice talking to you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
I make appreciate it. Thanks Ali. Yeah, yeah, Darren. Darren
said he likes the I Maybe maybe that was a
Mica reference, who knows, but no, I mean again, and
this is not just for our least is for everybody.
This is for Rob in Vegas. This is for running

(01:18:13):
New Jersey, Dylan Lester, all of them that have called
here lately, and and and and I totally get the frustration.
I'm just saying, let's let's argue about the things that
we kind of know about. But whatever the strategy is,
whatever it is, it just hasn't been good enough. And
y'all know that I know it, and they know it.
Hopefully they know it as well, and so and so

(01:18:37):
I'm not I'm not trying to side with them. What
I'm saying is is that you know, just because it's
see you see it one way or another, that doesn't
mean they're not trying here. But it hasn't worked. It
just hasn't worked, and I get that. Y'all see it,
and we all see that that that too, So your
frustration is warranted. It's never fun to see the Eagles

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win because because you know that's two games on your
schedule that are gonna be tough. Home and away. That's
always gonna be tough, and it's gonna be really tough
because you're not even close to him right now, not
even close.

Speaker 21 (01:19:08):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Seventy five to thirteen? That's the two scores and Dak
didn't play, But he's not making up seventy five to
thirteen just because he's in there. I don't think it's
a lot more than that. They won fourteen games in
the regular season and then four more and you won seven.
Not even close right now, not even close. And that's
a tough thing. That's where they got to get to
and they got to keep building for that. All right, guys,

(01:19:30):
great show, appreciate it. We'll be back next Wednesday to
talk about it again. So for Chris Beam, I'm NICKI
even see you next week on Storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
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